Aug 28, 2023 Commission Meeting

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WELCOME NEIGHBORS, CITIZENS AND GUESTS.

[CALL TO ORDER]

DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS THIS DAY OF LIFE WE HAVE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF OUR BLESSINGS.

THANK YOU FOR HOW YOU BLESS THIS TOWN.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, THE PRIVILEGE TO COME HERE AND MEET, TO DISCUSS AND TO MAKE DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF EVERYBODY.

UM, WANT TO PRAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN MAUI.

UM, I PRAY THAT THEY WILL GET SUPPLIES AND RECOVERY THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND I PRAY FOR ALL OF FLORIDA AND NORTH IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS FOR THIS ONCOMING STORM.

I PRAY IT WILL SETTLE DOWN AND I PRAY IT WON'T DO THE DAMAGE THAT WE THINK AND KNOW COULD HAPPEN, THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE IN TOWNS ARE IN YOUR HANDS.

AND I PRAY THAT THEY'LL PREPARE LIKE WE WE HAVE BEEN PREPARING WITH OUR STAFF AND JUST THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR BLESSINGS AND YOUR NAME.

I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN.

THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED AUGUST 28TH, 2023, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

DONNA, ARE YOU READING ROLL CALL? SURE.

THANK YOU, DONNA. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS, ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, THE MEETING STAND AS PRESENTED.

ITEM ONE B, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON JULY 10TH, 2023.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE. THE MINUTES STAND AS SUBMITTED.

AND FINALLY, ITEM ONE C, APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE BUDGET WORKSHOP HELD ON JULY 25TH, 2023.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? AH HEARING NONE, THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU. THIS IS OUR OUR OPPORTUNITY.

THE NEXT PART OF OUR AGENDA IS OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR VISITORS TO SPEAK.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

TODAY WE'LL BE OBSERVING THREE MINUTES, MAXIMUM SPEAKING TIME, AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO OPEN IT UP.

IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT I WANT TO I WANT TO ALLOW THREE YOUNG LADIES TO PRESENT TO THE CITY.

THE RING SISTERS ARE HERE TO PRESENT A CARD THAT I UNDERSTAND WAS SIGNED BY MANY AT.

THAT WAS AT WHICH PART? THAT WAS THE BAN BOOK.

BASH BACK TO SCHOOL BOOK.

BASH RIGHT. BUT THAT'S JORDAN, NOT JORDAN.

THAT'S DONNER PARK.

THANK YOU. ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, AND BY THE WAY, WE JUST PAVED DONNER ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT ALWAYS TRIPS ME UP BECAUSE DONNER ROAD, THEN DONNER PARK.

BUT, UM, SO LET'S, GIRLS, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP WITH DAD TO THE MICROPHONE? DAD, YOU COULD TAKE THAT MICROPHONE DOWN AND JUST HOLD IT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM SPEAK.

CAN WE GET YOUR NAMES, PLEASE? THIS IS FOR THE RECORDS.

I'M LEIA RING.

AND I'M MELANIE RING..

AND LANA.

OKAY. THESE ARE THE RING SISTERS.

SO TELL US WHAT YOU WERE UP TO? OH. DO I READ IT? GOOD EVENING AT THE BAND BACK TO SCHOOL BOOK BASH.

LOTS OF KIDS SIGNED A CARD TO SAY THANK YOU FOR VOTING FOR THE SPLASH PAD, AND WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU.

THANK YOU. WE CAN'T WAIT TO TRY IT OUT.

ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE AND YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY OR YOU'RE JUST THE CARD PRESENTER AND YOU WERE ONE OF THE MAJOR ARTISTS.

OKAY. WELL DONE.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU THREE GIRLS AND YOUR FATHER FOR BRINGING YOU HERE TONIGHT.

HE HAD TO TAKE YOU SOMEWHERE ANYWAYS, BECAUSE THERE'S A COMMISSION MEETING AND HE'S IN CHARGE.

SO HE DID A GOOD DEED.

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AND I WAS AT THE EVENT.

THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THERE.

WHAT A WHAT A GREAT EVENT TO BE PART OF.

SO CAN WE GIVE THEM APPLAUSE, PLEASE? AND MAY WE COME DOWN THERE FOR A QUICK PHOTO TO ACCEPT YOUR CARD? IS THAT OKAY? OKAY.

SO ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME.

THE WORK WILL JUST BECOME PART OF IT.

WHY DON'T YOU SET IT RIGHT THERE NOW? AND WE GOT MOST OF IT. YOU COULD STAND UP.

WE'LL GET YOU PICTURES OF THAT.

OVER THERE. OVER THERE.

ALL RIGHT. ITS HEIGHT AND ITS SHAPE.

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? WHY DON'T WE PUT IT RIGHT HERE? MAYOR. GOOD UP HERE? IT RIGHT HERE. WELL SAID.

YEAH. WE'LL MAKE IT SIT.

IF NOT, WE'LL BLAME KEVIN.

PUT IN FRONT OF BRUCE IF HE DOESN'T SIT.

BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MESS.

KNOW? AND IT HAPPENED. WHAT WAS THAT? NOW EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT ALL NIGHT.

OKAY. DONNA, DO WE HAVE SPEAKERS TODAY? WE DO.

FIRST SPEAKER. DID YOU SAY IT WAS THREE MINUTES? THREE MINUTES. MARK ABRINOWITZ.

EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

I'M MARK RABINOWITZ. I LIVE ON NORTH KOREA DRIVE.

I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU BRIEFLY ABOUT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN A.

THAT'S THE REPORT FROM BOARD MEMBER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

JUST A QUICK COMMENTS. I WE ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.

BUT WHEN YOU COME TO ATLANTIC BEACH, COME HOME FROM WORK OR YOU COME TO SCHOOL, YOU COME INTO ATLANTIC BEACH, YOU NOTICE WHAT WE HAVE.

YOU NOTICE WE HAVE TREES, WE HAVE BEACHES, WE HAVE MARSHES.

IT'S A GREAT VIEW FOR US TO COME, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE KIND OF USED TO IT.

WE KNOW IT'S REALLY GREAT.

VISITORS COME.

THEY ARE REALLY AMAZED AT WHAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO THAT'S VISIBLE.

WE SEE THAT VERY CLEARLY.

BUT WHAT THEY DON'T SEE ARE THE VOLUNTEERS THAT MAKE THIS CITY TRULY, TRULY SPECIAL.

SO ON THE AGENDA ITEM, THERE'S A REPORT FROM THE BMC SAYING THESE ARE RECOMMENDED.

THREE CANDIDATES WENT BEFORE THE THAT BOARD AND THEY WERE REVIEWED.

AND IT STRUCK ME THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE VOLUNTEERS, GIVE THEIR TIME AND THEIR TREASURE AND THEY JOIN A LONG LIST OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE PAST, THOSE PRESENTLY ON THE COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS AND THOSE THAT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

THESE VOLUNTEERS TRULY, TRULY MAKE THE CITY GREAT.

I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ON TREE CANOPIES AND HOW TO GET PEOPLE INVOLVED, AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WERE, YEAH, SOME OF SOME OF THE VOLUNTEERS DIDN'T DO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO, BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF AND VOLUNTEERING MADE THEM WANT TO GIVE, BY GIVING, THEY GAINED OWNERSHIP IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE TRUE, TRUE BENEFIT OF VOLUNTEERS.

THEY OWN WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

SO THE MORE VOLUNTEERS WE HAVE, BETTER WE'RE GOING TO BE.

SO JUST A QUICK CLOSING.

I THINK IT'S CHURCHILL SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU GET, WHAT YOU GET IS YOU'RE LIVING.

BUT WHAT YOU GIVE IS YOUR LIFE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ABRINOWITZ. I ALWAYS WORK ON THAT, MARK.

OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER.

JANET TORELLI.

GOOD EVENING, ATLANTIC BEACH.

MY NAME IS JANET TORELLI.

I AM YOUR HISTORIAN AND I'M THE HISTORIAN FOR MAYPORT AND ATLANTIC BEACH.

I'VE BEEN THE HISTORIAN FOR OVER PROBABLY ALMOST 25 YEARS.

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BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE HAVE BEEN THESE INDIVIDUALS.

THERE'S NOT THAT MANY, BUT IT'S THAT VOLUNTEER THING.

AND I'M VERY INVOLVED WITH ALL TYPES OF THINGS GOING ON.

IF ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW, JUST PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME.

I'M WORKING ON THE MAYPORT AND WORKING ON THE CEMETERIES AND ONE OF THE CEMETERIES.

I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE MONUMENT WHICH COMMEMORATES ANDREW DEWEES.

AND IF YOU LOOK ON YOUR LAND GRANTS, IT WILL SAY THE ANDREW DEWEES LAND GRANT, POOR MAN WAS NOT GIVEN HARDLY ANY CREDIT FOR WHAT HE ESTABLISHED AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW TODAY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

NO, ACTUALLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MR. TORELLI THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NANCY WHITTINGTON.

GOT A BOOK. FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK.

MR. MAYOR, HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.

I'M NANCY WHITTINGTON, 1861 BEACHSIDE COURT WHERE ALL THE CRAZY PEOPLE LIVE.

RIGHT. I WANTED TO ASK ALL OF YOU TO DRAW BACK FROM ALL THE SWILL AND THE MUD OF POLITICS JUST FOR A MOMENT AND CONSIDER WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SEPTEMBER 8TH.

OKAY. THIS TOWN IS GOING TO LOSE INCREDIBLE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE IN THE PERSON OF MR. JOE GARRITY. I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK HIM FOR UNSELFISHLY STEPPING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS OWN LOSSES FROM HURRICANE IAN LAST YEAR.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE IN THE EYE WALL OF THAT COMING IN.

BUT AS A CITIZEN, I USED TO BE A PUBLIC SERVANT MYSELF, AND I KNOW TOO WELL THE MORAL DUTY TO DO THE RIGHT THING, NO MATTER WHAT THE POLITICAL HEADWINDS MAY BE.

SO WHAT JOE HAS DONE IS AND THE CRITICAL VALUE HE HAS BROUGHT US BEFORE AND DURING THIS INTERIM TENURE IS HE HAS ENSURED THAT WE HAVE SCAFFOLDING IN OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY OF COMPETENT PEOPLE.

LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN MAUI.

THOSE PEOPLE BELIEVED IN THEIR GOVERNMENT.

THEY PAID DEARLY FOR THEIR GOVERNMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY HAVING CAPABLE PEOPLE IN PLACE IS SO CRITICAL, BECAUSE OTHERWISE MEAN YOU HAVE TO OPERATE WITH COMMON SENSE WHEN YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE.

SO WE WE THANK YOU, JOE, FOR CONTINUING THAT.

SO LET US SCORE THE TARGET HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND JOE IS MORE THAN JUST THE GUY THAT GOT IT DONE.

HE IS HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS REALLY HELPED US MORE THAN WE REALIZE AND FOR YEARS TO COME AFTER YOU GO.

SO LET'S PLEASE TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK MR. GARRITY FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR US.

ABSOLUTELY. THE.

THANK YOU. MS.. WHITTINGTON AND JUST TO PUNCTUATE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE GOOD LEADERSHIP.

JOE'S LAST COMMENT TO ME IN HALF HOUR AGO WAS I ALMOST DODGED THE BULLET.

SO HE'S LEAVING ON THE EIGHTH AND WE'VE GOT A HURRICANE IN TWO DAYS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, JOE.

WE APPRECIATE YOU. NEXT.

TRACY GIBEAU.

GUYS. I'M TRACY GIBEAU.

I LIVE AT 72 WEST EIGHTH STREET.

FIRST OFF, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS.

LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS DONATED SOME MONEY TO THE COLD NIGHT SHELTER.

ALL OF THAT MONEY WAS NOT SPENT.

SO WE JUST WE'VE HAD THREE COMPASSION NIGHTS, TWO OF THEM AT COMMUNITY PRESBYTERIAN AND THE LAST ONE AT PAUL'S EPISCOPAL BY THE SEA, WHICH WAS THIS LAST SATURDAY NIGHT.

66 PEOPLE CAME THERE AND WERE LOVED ON, WERE FED.

THEY GOT A CHANCE TO WATCH THE JAGUAR GAME.

THEY GOT SHOWERS.

IT WAS JUST COMPLETE.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, IT WAS JUST LOVE.

SO LEADING AFTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE GOT THIS HURRICANE SHOWING.

SO WE GOT A A ACTUAL SHELTER THAT'S GOING TO BE OPENING TOMORROW AT 12 NOON AT LANDMARK.

UM, THE TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE PICKED UP.

JTA IS GOING TO BE PICKING UP AT FLETCHER MAYPORT MIDDLE, JACKSONVILLE, JACKSONVILLE BEACH ELEMENTARY.

AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEFT OUT OF THAT COMMUNITY, PRESBYTERIAN, IS LOANING US THEIR VAN.

AND THREE OF US ARE GOING TO BE PICKING PEOPLE UP AT THE MISSION HOUSE AND TAKING THEM OVER THERE.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU THAT I APPRECIATE IT AND IT MEANS A LOT TO EVERYBODY.

UM, TODAY, VIC, CHIEF VIC REACHED OUT TO US AND SENT OVER AN OFFICER.

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WE WENT OVER TO THE MISSION HOUSE.

WE. WE WERE JUST HERE TO HELP.

THAT ALSO MEANS A LOT WHEN WHEN THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS SO INVOLVED, TOO.

I JUST WANT TO SIMPLY TELL YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. YES, AND THANK YOU, MR. GIBEAU. GOOD.

GOOD STUFF.

BRINKLEY, HAROLD.

GOOD EVENING. BRINKLEY HAROLD 266TH STREET.

I JUST HAD MY 51ST YEAR ANNIVERSARY LIVING IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

I'M SO FORTUNATE THAT MY FOLKS HAD THE FORESIGHT TO MOVE HERE IN AUGUST 1972 AND AM LUCKY EVERY DAY I WAKE UP HERE.

SO ANYWAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, I'M HERE TO TALK MOSTLY ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS EIGHT A AND EIGHT B.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE REVAMP OF AHERN STREET BETWEEN OCEAN BOULEVARD AND EAST COAST DRIVE, WHICH BOTH, WHICH THAT AREA, THAT STREET WILL FEED RIGHT INTO THE INFAMOUS NUMBER 52 EAST COAST DRIVE, WHERE THEY TRIED TO EXCEED THE 35 FOOT HEIGHT, PUTTING THINGS ON TOP OF THE ROOFS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS AN OKAY PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD PLAN.

IT'S NOT A GREAT PLAN.

THREE OF YOU ON THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW WERE HERE IN MAY OF 2021, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO WHEN YOU APPROVED THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 95 AND 96 OF THE APPROVED AND ACCEPTED CONNECTIVITY PLAN, THERE ARE BIKE LANES ON THAT STRETCH OF AHERN STREET.

THERE ARE NOT BIKE LANES ON WHAT IS THE APPROVED CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA ON PAGE 88? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT APPROVED THING CAME FROM.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF TOWN HALLS I ATTENDED BOTH OF THEM.

ONE THEM WAS ON SITE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT.

AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THE APPROVED, THE APPROVED THING WAS APPROVED BY SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T HAVE CITIZEN INPUT, APPARENTLY, AND DIDN'T HAVE YOUR INPUT.

SO THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE WE NEED BICYCLE LANES ON THAT SHORT STRETCH OF AHERN STREET.

THE WHOLE STREET IS BEING COMPLETELY REVAMPED.

WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING SOME BIKE LANES, UH, AND THE STAFF REPORT ON BOTH AGENDA ITEMS, IT ONLY HAS A COST OF 68,000 FOR THE ENGINEERING ON ONE AND 46,000 FOR THE ENGINEERING ON THE OTHER.

DOESN'T SHOW WHAT THE PROJECTED PROJECT COSTS ARE AND I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TRY TO LOOK IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS BUDGETS TO PULL THOSE NUMBERS OUT.

BUT I'M SURE MR. GARRITY HAS THOSE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE PLANS, YOU KNOW, FIGURE PROMINENTLY IN THAT CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

WE NEED THAT.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ISSUE WITH CROSSWALKS FROM THOSE SIDEWALKS ON AHERN CROSSING OVER EAST COAST, COMING TO THAT NEW BUILDING THAT HAS 45 BICYCLE RACKS ON IT.

SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE MATH WORKS.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR AN EAST AND WEST BOUND BICYCLE LANE.

IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR A NINE FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ROAD WHERE THERE'S ONLY RESIDENCES AND CONDOS THAT SIDEWALK COULD BE ELIMINATED OR IT COULD BE GREATLY REDUCED.

UH, I ALSO HAD A HAD AN IDEA ABOUT PICKLEBALL COURTS AT JORDAN PARK, BUT I'M NOW OUT OF TIME.

BUT IRONICALLY, IN MY UTILITY BILL THAT I GOT TODAY, GUESS WHAT ATLANTIC BEACH INCLUDED IN HERE? BIKE SMART. AND YET WE DON'T HAVE BIKE LANES IN THIS NEW PLAN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. HARRELL.

AND I NEED SOME SANDBAGS.

WE HAVE SANDBAGS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THAT'S IT. OKAY. BEFORE I CLOSE, COURTESY OF THE FLOOR, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

LET'S SEE.

OKAY. CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE A REPORT?

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

IF NOT.. I JUST HAD ONE.

AND I DID MENTION IT TO KEVIN AND DONNA.

IT'S THE BUDGET MEETING ON THE 13TH OF SEPTEMBER.

IT'S NOT LISTED THERE, BUT WE ARE STILL MEETING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

WHAT IS THE TIME FOR THAT ONE? 5:30. YES, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IS IT SIX? RIGHT.

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NO.

WE CAN CHECK THAT.

WE CAN CHECK THAT OUT.

ALL RIGHT. SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AMENDING THE 90 DAY CALENDAR TO REFLECT THE 13TH FOR THE BUDGET MEETING AT 6:30.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THE ESC MEETING THAT NIGHT? ESC MEETING.

OKAY. AND JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WHEN IT COMES TO SCHEDULING BUDGET HEARINGS, THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.

OF COURSE, THE COUNTY, SAINT JOHN'S WATER MANAGEMENT, EVERYBODY ELSE IS ABOVE US.

SO WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE WHEN WE CAN.

WE ORIGINALLY WANTED TO HAVE IT ON THE THE NIGHT OF THE MEETING, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE 11TH, BUT SOMEONE PREEMPTED US.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE END UP WHERE WE ARE.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S STILL COMMISSION MEETING ON THE 11TH? YES. YES.

OKAY. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER CORRECTIONS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 90 DAY CALENDAR AS AMENDED? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 90 DAY CALENDAR AS AMENDED.

SECOND MOTION IS SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH.

AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. MOTION.

OKAY. VIC JUST WALKED IN.

HE WAS SITTING IN ON THE 6:30 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BRIEFING, AND I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE HIM COME UP HERE AND GIVE A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WE CAN EXPECT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

SO LUCKILY THERE HASN'T BEEN A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE FROM THE BRIEFINGS THIS AFTERNOON ON THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

WE ARE STILL TO THE RIGHT OF THE STRONGEST PART OF THE STORM, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE WE WON'T BE IN THAT SWATH THAT'S GOING UP FROM SUWANNEE RIVER VALLEY UP THE COAST OF CAROLINA. WE SHOULD EXPECT SOME STRONG TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS, THOUGH, POSSIBILITIES FOR TORNADOES AT ANY TIME.

WE'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT HURRICANE.

SO WE ARE PREPARED IN THE CITY.

PUBLIC WORKS BEGAN MEASURES TODAY, I'M SURE, AS YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, THAT WE'RE PREPARING BY DRAINING THE POND AND AQUATIC.

WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE STORM DRAINS, MAKING ALL THE PREPARATION TO PULL EQUIPMENT OFF THE BEACH, TALKING TO OUR CONTRACTORS LOCALLY, MAKING SURE THEY'RE BRINGING THEIR DUMPSTERS IN AND SECURING SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITES.

THE CITY IS PREPARING. WE PUT SHUTTERS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TODAY JUST IN CASE WE HAD SOME EXTRA MANPOWER AROUND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE EXTRA MANPOWER COMING IN TOMORROW STARTING AT ZERO 600 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE DID REQUEST SOME ASSETS FROM CITY OF JACKSONVILLE UNDER THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT FOR MANPOWER FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTING AT 6 P.M. TOMORROW NIGHT. SO WE'LL HAVE EXTRA OFFICERS FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, PLUS OUR OFFICERS WORKING TOMORROW.

WE'LL START PLANNING THE NEXT OPERATIONAL PERIOD, MEANING WE'LL COME TOGETHER TOMORROW AS A GROUP.

THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND WE'LL START LOOKING AT THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS AFTER THE HURRICANE PASSES OUR LOCATION, PLANNING FOR ANY CLEANUP THAT MIGHT HAVE TO OCCUR.

WE ARE WORKING WITH EPD DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE DOWN THERE FOR AT LEAST 12 HOURS, THE DURATION STORM WE'RE EXPECTING.

SO ONE OF OUR OFFICERS WILL BE DOWN THERE REPRESENTING US.

SHOULD WE NEED ANYTHING FROM EPD DOWNTOWN? AND WE ARE GOING TO HOLD MEETINGS TOMORROW WITH OUR INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM WITHIN THE CITY AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT TO EXPECT AS A STORM APPROACHES US.

ANY QUESTIONS? AND THE SCHOOLS ARE CLOSED UNTIL THROUGH THURSDAY? YES. OKAY.

CONFIRMING THAT THEY'RE CLOSED TOMORROW MORNING ALL THE WAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

THAT'S WHAT MY TEACHER SAID.

YEAH, IT'S TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.

CPS IS CLOSED SCHOOLS.

I HAVE A QUESTION, CHIEF ROLL-OFF CONTAINERS.

THERE'S A LOT OF ROLL-OFF CONTAINERS.

ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY.

IT'S FULL AND HE'S OUT OF TOWN.

SO ALL THESE CONTAINERS ARE GOING TO BE EMPTIED PRIOR TO THIS OR THAT'S PART OF THE ROUTINE, RIGHT? I'M JUST ASKING A ROUTINE QUESTION.

YES, SIR. WE'LL START FOLLOWING UP WITH PLANNING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TOMORROW, TRYING TO CONTACT THE OWNERS OF THOSE CONTAINERS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT A DANGER TO ANYBODY WITHIN OUR CITY. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

AS IT LOOKS NOW, I KNOW IT'S A TROPICAL STORM STILL.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT'S EXPECTED TO GAIN POWER OVER THE NEXT NIGHT OR SO.

WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET THE BRUNT OF THE STORM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY.

THAT'S WHAT'S LOOKING LIKE RIGHT NOW.

SO TUESDAY MORNING FOR THE COAST, PROBABLY INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON, EVENING APPROACHING US AND THEN PROBABLY TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR US

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THE GOOD THING IS IT'S MOVING FAST, WHICH MEANS IT'LL BE THROUGH QUICKLY.

BUT THE BAD THING ABOUT THAT IS THERE'S THE SURFACE LEVEL.

FRICTION ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT MOVES SO QUICKLY.

SO WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR A STRONGER STORM BY THE TIME IT REACHES US, EVEN THOUGH ACROSS THE STATE, BECAUSE IT'S GOING SO QUICKLY.

WHEN WILL WE KNOW IF WE'RE EXPECTED TO HAVE A MANDATORY EVACUATION OR DOES IT EVEN LOOK LIKE THAT? THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE HAPPENING NOW WITH DOWNTOWN AND OUR MAYORS.

THERE'S ANOTHER CONFERENCE CALL AND A GROUP MEETING TOMORROW.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN.

RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE IT'LL BE A STRONG WIND EVENT, PROBABLY NOT AS STRONG FLOODING EVENT.

THEY'RE CALLING FOR 1 TO 3FT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL ON THE INTERCOASTAL AND THE OCEANFRONT BECAUSE IT'S COMING ACROSS THE STATE.

LUCKILY FOR US, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.

THERE ISN'T A HIGH CONCERN AT THIS TIME FOR MANDATORY EVACUATIONS IF IT COMES ASHORE AS A CAT FOUR, IF IT DOES SOMETHING MORE THAN THE ANTICIPATE AND TO BECOME A CAT FOUR WHEN IT HITS THE WEST COAST.

THERE COULD BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

BUT WE'RE IN THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD WHERE WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION DOWNTOWN, HAS TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO EVACUATE OFF OF THE COAST.

AND AGAIN, LET ME REITERATE TO YOU, IF FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE WANT TO LEAVE, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT.

AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO GO HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY.

IT'S OKAY TO GO 10 OR 20 MILES INTO TOWN TO GET OFF OF THE COAST OUT OF THE DIRECT EFFECTS OF THE WIND ON THE COAST, THAT WHERE THERE'S NO TREES, BASICALLY, WE'VE GOT A WIDE OPEN AREA IN FRONT OF US, WHICH IS THE OCEAN, A LARGE OCEAN, A LARGE LAKE, PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE LAKEFRONT BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS THE SURFACE OF THE WINDS TO ACCUMULATE AND GET TO YOU BEFORE THE TREES HAVE A CHANCE TO KNOCK IT DOWN.

SO GOING 10 OR 20 MILES INLAND IS FINE IF YOU'RE IN AN EXPOSED AREA OR A DANGER AREA.

WHEN OR HOW SOON WILL THE CITIZENS KNOW MORE OF AN UPDATE ON EVACUATION OR HOW IT WILL HIT US? THERE'LL BE AN EXECUTIVE MEETING TOMORROW MORNING AT 10:10 A.M..

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT BY NOON TIME, IF THEY HAVE ANY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT EVACUATION, WE SHOULD BE HEARING ABOUT THAT FROM EPD AT THAT TIME.

AND HOW DO WE NOTIFY OUR CITIZENS? THAT'LL GO OUT THROUGH ALL THE NORMAL BROADCAST CHANNELS AND IT'LL ALSO GO OUT IF THERE WERE SOMETHING SEVERE ENOUGH TO CALL FOR A MANDATORY EVACUATION OR SOME OTHER INCIDENT, WE WOULD USE SAFER WATCH.

YOU'D GET IT THROUGH THE NEWS CHANNELS NATIONALLY, AND YOU'D ALSO GET IT THROUGH JAX READY IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE JAX READY AS PART OF THEIR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, I RECOMMEND YOU DO THAT. JUST GO TO THE JAX READY WEBSITE OR COJ WEBSITE.

DOWNLOAD THAT AND YOU CAN GET ALERTS ON YOUR PHONE FROM EPD.

IS THE CITY OFFERING SANDBAGS FOR ANY OF ITS CITIZENS? WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT. I DON'T THINK WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT YET ON WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT HIGH FLOOD EVENT WITH LOTS OF RAIN.

THE FORECAST CURRENTLY IS PROBABLY FOR 1 TO 4 INCHES OF RAIN IN OUR AREA IN THE EXACT TRACK OF THE STORM MAY BE HIGHER, 8 TO 12. WE DON'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GET THE EXACT CENTER OF THE STORM.

LOCALLY HEAVIER POSSIBLE SHOWERS, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S AN EXTREMELY WET EVENT RIGHT NOW.

OUR BIGGEST CONCERN FOR ANY INUNDATION WOULD COME FROM HIGH TIDE COINCIDING WITH THE SAME TIME THE STORMS COME ACROSS OUR AREA.

BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THAT 1 TO 3FT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL.

HIGH TIDE WILL BE AT 9:54 A.M.

ON WEDNESDAY.

SO I'LL COMMENT ON THE SANDBAGS, BECAUSE ACTUALLY MAYOR DEEGAN SPOKE TO THAT ISSUE THAT THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY HAS DECIDED AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS GOES BACK A FEW STORMS, BUT THAT SANDBAGS ARE NOT WHAT THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY FIND THAT THERE'S A DOWNSIDE TO THAT.

PEOPLE RELY ON THEM.

THEY MAY MAKE THEM FEEL GOOD THAT THEY DID SOMETHING, BUT SANDBAGS TYPICALLY ALLOW WATER THROUGH.

AND THEN ONCE THE WATER IS IN, GETTING IT OUT IS, SO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE IS NOT DOING SANDBAGS.

SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE WOULD STILL CONSIDER SANDBAGS HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH? I THINK THAT'S AN INTERNAL DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY MANAGER AND PUBLIC WORKS.

WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING IT RIGHT AT RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD I WOULD NOT, BECAUSE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS EXACTLY WHAT MAYOR DEEGAN SAID AND THAT SANDBAGS WERE A LOT OF WORK AND DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY RELIEF, MAYBE IN THE SHORT RUN.

BUT THE THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS MENTIONED AND I'M OH, SHERIFF WATERS MENTIONED THAT MOST OF US UNDERSTAND, HAVING BEEN THROUGH A FEW OF THESE, THAT THE BRIDGES GET CLOSED WHEN YOU HAVE SUSTAINED WINDS AT 40 MILES AN HOUR OR GREATER.

SHERIFF WATERS MADE A VERY BRIGHT STATEMENT THAT CERTAIN BRIDGES, LIKE THE DAMES POINT BRIDGE, IF YOU HAVE GUSTS THAT ARE 60 OR 70 MILES AN HOUR, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT SUSTAINED AT 40, HE'S CLOSING THE BRIDGE BECAUSE YOU'LL GET BLOWN OFF THAT BRIDGE.

AND I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD THAT EXPERIENCE OF ALMOST BEING BLOWN OFF.

SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND THEN WHAT WE TELL OTHERS IS THAT THE BRIDGES COULD BE CLOSED ABSENT THE 40 MILE AN HOUR SUSTAINED WINDS THEY COULD BE CLOSED EARLIER.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CHECK WITH JOE.

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SO IF WE NEED IT, WE'VE GOT IT.

GOOD. AND YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN TRAINED ON HOW TO DOCUMENT OUR FEMA EXPENSES.

YOU'VE HAD A FEW CLASSES ON FILLING OUT FORMS PROPERLY.

THEY'RE PROBABLY TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I JUST ASKED THE QUESTION 20 MINUTES AGO, TOO.

SO THEY'RE ON TOP OF IT.

AND THANK YOU, CHIEF. WE APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. KEEPING WITH THE STORM PREP A GFL WILL NOT BE COLLECTING GARBAGE ON WEDNESDAY.

INSTEAD, THEIR WEDNESDAY PICK UP CUSTOMERS WILL BE PICKED UP ON SATURDAY.

SO, KEVIN, IF YOU GOT THAT OUT.

OKAY, JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS.

UM, CITY HALL WILL BE OPEN TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

WE ARE GOING TO BRING EVERYBODY IN TOMORROW.

WE'RE GOING TO MONITOR CONDITIONS DURING THE DAY AND WE'LL SEND IF THEY DETERIORATE, WE WILL SEND NON-ESSENTIAL STAFF HOME.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE ON A FULL STAFF ON WEDNESDAY.

WE'LL HAVE A SKELETON STAFF.

KEVIN AND I WILL BE HERE AND SEVERAL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL BE HERE.

BUT THERE'LL BE NO UTILITY BILL SERVICE OR PROBABLY NO FRONT COUNTER SERVICE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

AGAIN, WE'LL BE HERE, BUT JUST IN CASE OF EMERGENCY AND WE NEED TO DO SOME SOMETHING EXTREME.

UM. KEVIN YOU HAVE THAT SLIDE.

AT THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOP, THE COMMISSION DIRECTED US TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE UH, BY ONE EIGHTH.

SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET WORKSHOP, I JUST THOUGHT I'D MENTION WHAT WE WHAT WE ACTUALLY DID AND HOW WE GOT TO THAT POINT.

UM, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A PROJECTED SURPLUS IN THE GENERAL FUND AT THE PREVIOUS MILLAGE RATE OF $122,000 IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE TO MAKE THAT REDUCTION OF $320,000.

WE ELIMINATED AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD AND PUBLIC WORKS.

WE ALSO ELIMINATED SOME THERMOPLASTIC STREET SCAPE, WHICH IS STUFF THAT GOES ON THE ROAD.

UH, WE TOOK $48,000, WHICH WAS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE.

THE TOWN CENTER PARKING FUND.

AND WE ALSO TOOK $50,000 OUT OF THE TOWN SERVICE PARKING FUND TO GET US TO THE $320,000 THAT WE NEEDED TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE.

SO THAT GENERALLY LEAVES THE GENERAL FUND WITH ZERO ZERO BALANCE.

I WILL TELL YOU, THERE WILL BE SOME SAVINGS IN INSURANCE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T PARSED OUT YET.

THE $58,000 DEDUCTIBLE FROM CHOOSING $58,000 SAVINGS, CHOOSING A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE.

AND ALSO OUR WORKERS COMP RATE CAME IN ABOUT $9,000 LESS THAN WE ANTICIPATED.

SO SOME OF THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE ASSIGNED TO THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

THE REST OF IT WILL BE FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WE JUST HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO THAT POINT WHERE WE HAVE SEPARATED THE TWO.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THE BUDGET.

AGAIN, THE NEXT TIME YOU HEAR ABOUT IT WOULD BE 13.

SO A COUPLE THINGS I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

REFRESH MY MEMORY AT THE LAST MEETING.

DID WE TAKE CONSENSUS ON THE MILLAGE RATE CHANGE OR DID WE ACTUALLY HAVE.

WE DIDN'T. YOU COULDN'T VOTE BECAUSE IT WAS A WORKSHOP, BUT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS OF THREE COMMISSIONERS, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS TO MR. BOLE, TO COMMISSIONER BOLE, THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE HERE FOR THE VOTE.

SO WE WERE NOT VOTING ON THAT.

AND WE WILL DO THAT AT THE BUDGET MEETING ON THE FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET ON THE 13TH AND 13TH.

SO. SO IF YOU DON'T AGREE, THEN THERE'S TIME TO CONSIDER OPTIONS THERE.

BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR JOE.

THIS INTERFUND TRANSFER ON THE TURF BLOCK PARKING PAD IS THAT THE 50,000 THAT WAS THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR SCOTT WILLIAMS FOR TURF BLOCK OR IS IT. YES.

THAT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY CAME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WAS USE TOWN CENTER PARKING FEE MONEY.

OKAY. SO IT'S NOT BEING ELIMINATED FROM HIS BUDGET? NO. OKAY. NO, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.

I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SO WHEN YOU SAY INTERFUND TRANSFER.

SO YOU WERE JUST MOVING MONEY FROM PAID PARKING? IS THAT WHAT'S GOING ON? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

YES. BECAUSE I'LL GET QUESTIONS..

OR THERE WAS A PRETTY HEALTHY BALANCE IN THAT PAID PARKING. YEAH, THERE IS.

YEAH. I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK YOU IF WE'D SPENT ANY OF IT YET.

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ON PARKING. SO JUST JUST FOR YOUR HISTORY, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HAVING ZERO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION, HAVING ZERO IN THE IN THE FUND? THERE'S NO ROOM. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS RIGHT.

THAT TAKES IT DOWN. BUT YOU ANTICIPATE OTHER SAVINGS ELSEWHERE? IS THAT WHAT. WELL, THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE $58,000 SAVINGS IN OUR LIABILITY COVERAGE AND ANOTHER 9000 IN OUR WORKERS COMP COVERAGE AND PROJECTED IN THERE.

AND OUR OUR SURPLUS, OUR RESERVE FUNDS ARE SUPER HEALTHY.

WE BELIEVE THAT WE'LL HAVE ABOUT A $77.5 MILLION RESERVE FUND AND OF COURSE, THAT'S PROJECTED, WHICH WILL BE ABOUT 37%.

JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE.

MISSING MAYBE YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WHEN YOU PRIORITIZE THESE, DO YOU GUYS GO TO THE DEPARTMENTS AND, FOR INSTANCE, GO TO PUBLIC WORKS AND SAY, HEY, WHAT DO YOU LEAST NEED? IN OTHER WORDS, THAT ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD, DO THEY DO THEY SAY, HEY, THIS IS ON MY LIST, THIS IS WHAT I CAN CUT? IS THAT HOW YOU GUYS APPROACH THAT? THAT DOESN'T QUITE WORK THAT WAY.

OKAY. I THINK I KNOW NOW.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT JESUS. JOE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? IS THERE ANY MORE ABOUT THIS? OKAY. ABOUT THE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

WHAT WHAT HOW DO WE WHAT IS NEEDED TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY? WELL, I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.

BASICALLY A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

AND VIC, YOU WANT TO JUST COME UP AND GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF WHY WE WOULD WANT TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

YES, PLEASE.

SO IT'S NOT AS MUCH ABOUT REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA, SINCE WE HAVE A DECLARATION FROM THE STATE AND COUNTY OF AN EMERGENCY.

IT'S MORE ABOUT ASSETS.

IF WE HAVE TO BORROW THINGS FROM THE COUNTY OR IF WE REQUEST ASSETS FROM THE STATE, LET'S SAY WE NEED FUEL OR WE NEED PODS BROUGHT IN FOR FOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF WE DON'T HAVE A LOCAL DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US TO ASK FOR ASSETS FROM OTHER ENTITIES WITHOUT HAVING THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN BRINGING OUR OFFICERS IN TOMORROW MORNING AT 6:00.

WE HAVE OFFICERS COMING IN 6 P.M.

TOMORROW FROM JACKSONVILLE TO SUPPLEMENT OUR OFFICERS.

SO SOMETIME IN THAT TIME FRAME, I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE DECLARE THAT LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, THE EXACT TIME FRAMES BEING IN LOCKSTEP WITH NEPTUNE OR JAX, I DON'T THINK IS NECESSARY. JUST AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT LOCAL DECLARATION.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE DECLARED THE EMERGENCY.

WE NEED THE ASSETS AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING ALL THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE AREA ARE DOING.

AND THAT THAT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EMERGENCY PLAN IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES BASICALLY ALLOWS THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER TO DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY.

HOWEVER, THAT'S IN LIEU OF A QUORUM OF COMMISSIONERS.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY STARTING AT NOON TOMORROW.

AND GENERALLY WE ALLOW THEM TO RUN FOR SEVEN DAYS, BUT WE TERMINATE THEM PRIOR TO THAT, AFTER WE FEEL AS THOUGH IT'S THERE'S NO NEED FOR IT ANYMORE. AND BASICALLY WHAT IT HELPS US DO IS IF WE NEED TO PURCHASE SOMETHING, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE THE TYPICAL HOOPS THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP ON A, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL BASIS THAT WE CAN JUST GO AND TAKE CARE OF THE EMERGENCY.

SO IF THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS TO ALLOW THE MAYOR AND I TO PROCEED, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

ABSOLUTELY IT COULD.

IT COULD BE WORSE. YOU SEE, IT IT COULD HIT US A WHOLE LOT WORSE.

WE NEVER WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. THEY'RE JUST HELD IN ABEYANCE.

MR. HOGENCAMP WILL BE SPEAKING TO THAT SHORTLY.

OKAY. THOSE PARENTS ARE STILL WORKING, RIGHT? SO AS I HEARD IT, WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STATE OF EMERGENCY TOMORROW AT 12 P.M., I WOULD THINK.

COMMISSIONER KELLY, SINCE ALL SCHOOL EVENTS WERE CANCELED TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY IN DUVAL COUNTY, THAT THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS. FOR THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN AND ANYONE WHO ANY FAMILY WHO IS EVACUATING AND LEAVING OR HAVING TO PREP FOR THE STORM AHEAD OF THE STORM.

OKAY. SO WE CAN.

ARE YOU READY TO MOVE TO THREE B? NO, NOT YET. I'VE GOT A LOT OF STUFF HERE TONIGHT, SO MY LAST MEETING DON'T WANT.

DANA ROAD MAYOR MENTIONED IT'S BEEN RESURFACED OR IT'S BEEN PAVED.

IT'S IT'S GREAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE RIBBON RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY.

THIS THIS PROJECT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS IN THE WORKS.

AND FOR ME, IT'S REALLY TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF TROY STEVENS, STEVE SWANN AND SCOTT WILLIAMS.

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UH. AND IF YOU CAN BE THERE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND IF YOU CAN'T, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

SO. AND I THINK.

WE STILL HAVE THAT 16TH STREET.

I ALMOST DEFUNDED THAT.

BUT STEVE SWANN SAID HE WANTS TO GIVE ONE MORE SHOT AT TRYING TO GET THAT.

PROPERTY OWNER TO COOPERATE WITH US.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU ALL MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND.

IT'S THE THIRD YEAR WE'VE CARRIED THIS OVER, AND $600,000 IS A NICE SUM OF CHANGE THAT COULD BE PUT TO USE.

SO. OKAY.

AND I THINK I'M DONE.

WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME. TILL THE END OF THE MEETING.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK AT ANY TIME AND SPEAK.

THANK YOU, JOE.

SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.

LET'S HEAR FROM MR. HOGENCAMP REGARDING BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB UPDATE, ITEM THREE D.

GOOD EVENING. I'M KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, MAYOR, ON THE MESSAGING ABOUT THE HURRICANE THAT'S COMING.

ALL OF YOU AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS WHO SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTERS RECEIVE SOMETHING IN THE LAST HOUR, AND YOU'LL GET REGULAR UPDATES BY EMAIL.

THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO KNOW WHETHER, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE EVACUATING.

SO WE HAVE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH SPECIFIC INFORMATION AND WE HAVE LINKS TO ALL THE OTHER GREAT INFORMATION.

KEVIN HOW MANY HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU SERVE WITH THAT? WE HAVE ABOUT 8900 SUBSCRIBERS AND MORE THAN 6000 EVERY TIME WE SEND ONE OUT, ESPECIALLY DURING A STORM, OPEN IT.

SO THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE TOOL FOR US TO COMMUNICATE.

WE ALSO POST IN ALMOST REAL TIME ON FACEBOOK AND ON THE CITY WEBSITE DURING STORMS IN PARTICULAR.

AND SO THE NEXT ONE WILL BE TOMORROW MORNING.

A TRANSITION. TRANSITION TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

YES, THEY, I'M AFRAID, DO CANCEL THEIR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING WHEN THE DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM CANCELS THEIRS. I KNOW THAT'S PROBLEMATIC FOR FOR FAMILIES.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO DO WHEN WHEN SAFETY BECAME AN ISSUE AS WELL.

AND BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS ARE OFF TO A ROARING START.

THEY HAVE 69 ENROLLEES ALREADY AT JORDAN CENTER AND BACON BAKER CENTER, WHICH IS FAR NUMBER, FAR LARGER THAN THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WE SERVE THIS SUMMER.

THEY STARTED ON AUGUST 21ST, SO THIS IS THEIR SECOND FULL WEEK.

THEY KICKED OFF PROGRAMING AFTER GETTING THEIR STAFF IN PLACE.

THEY'RE STILL FINE TUNING THEIR STAFF AND MANAGED TO PUT ALL OF OUR FULL TIMERS AND PART TIMERS THAT WORKED AT JORDAN AND BAKER CENTERS TO WORK FOR THEM, WHICH WAS JUST LIKE A WIN WIN SCENARIO FOR FOR EVERYONE, FOR THE FAMILIES AND FOR FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A HUGE WIN.

WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY EXPECT THAT.

AND THAT WAS THAT WAS A BLESSING.

THEIR FOCUSES FOR THE PROGRAM ARE GETTING THE STAFF CLEARED, CREATING ROUTINES FOR MEMBERS AND CONDUCTING STAFF TRAINING.

AND I CALLED THEM MEMBERS OF THE PARTICIPANTS AT THEIR CLUB MEMBERS.

ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE CENTERS AFTER SCHOOL.

THEY'RE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, THEIR CARD CARRYING MEMBERS.

AND THERE'S SOME PRIDE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THEY KICKED OFF THEIR PROGRAM BY ESTABLISHING ROUTINES AND GETTING THEIR NEW MEMBERS SETTLED INTO THEIR ROUTINES.

ASKED FOR AN UPDATE FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

DID THAT COME FULLY STAFFED? AS OF NEXT WEEK, THEY'RE WORKING ON GETTING EVERYONE CLEARED AS FAR AS APPROVAL TO DRIVE OUR VAN, WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO USE THEIR TRANSPORTATION AND HOURS AND THEIR FOCUS FOR THE COMING MONTH IS INCREASING THEIR NUMBERS.

WE'RE HELPING THEM DO THAT BY COMMUNICATING WITH THE FAMILIES THAT WE SERVE.

AND OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNITY AND SCHOOL ENGAGEMENT.

THERE'S TUTORING AND THERE'S ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND ACADEMIC ADVANCEMENT, LEADERSHIP AND AND AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED TO THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND OUR COMMUNITY SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

UM, THEY ARE CAPABLE OF SERVING UP TO 120 CHILDREN, IF Y'ALL ARE WONDERING.

KINDERGARTEN UP TO HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

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YES. FIRST, THANK YOU SO MUCH, KEVIN AND JOE, FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT AND MAKING THAT PARTNERSHIP.

I WAS A CHILD RAISED BY A SINGLE MOTHER HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH WHO DROPPED ME OFF AT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB BACK WHEN IT WAS ON PITTMAN ROAD, AND THEY RAN SUMMER CAMPS THERE. MY BROTHERS AND I HAVE VERY FOND MEMORIES AT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, SO I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION AND I LOVE THAT COA HAS PARTNERED WITH THEM.

UM, YOU SAID THAT THEY THE FAMILIES NOW DO THEY HAVE MEMBERSHIPS TO ALL BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS THOSE FACILITIES SO THEY CAN GO TO THE ONE IN ARLINGTON OR THE ONE IN RIVERSIDE? OR IS THIS JUST AN AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER HERE? IT'S FOR OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER ANNOUNCED THAT NO ONE PAYS, BY THE WAY, NONE OF THE MEMBERS PAY.

THERE'S NO NO FEES.

OCCASIONALLY, IF THERE'S A PARTY OR SOME FIELD TRIP, THEY THEY MIGHT HAVE TO.

BUT THERE'S SO MUCH CORPORATE SUPPORT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TRANSFERRING MEMBERSHIP.

I CAN IMAGINE THAT THEY WOULD GLADLY SERVE..

BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY HAVE A CARD AND I REMEMBER.

YEAH. THEIR MEMBERS OF THEIR CLUB AND CLUB.

WELL, EITHER WAY, IT'S STILL FANTASTIC.

WHAT IS THE COST EXACTLY DIFFERENCE.

NOW WHAT DID WE CUT COST WISE ON THAT OR ARE YOU ASKING HOW MUCH IT IMPACTED THE BUDGET? YES, THE GRANT.

WELL, THERE'S A FEW THINGS.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES THAT WERE COAB AND NOW THAT THEY'RE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, YOU KNOW THE COST OF..

SPECIFIC NUMBERS, BUT YOU CAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPREADSHEETS THAT WE PROVIDED, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PAY CUT COST SAVINGS TO THE CITY.

AND INDEED, THE THAT'S OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

RIGHT. OR IT'S NOT A FOUR YEAR AGREEMENT.

AND AND TO COMMISSIONER KELLY'S POINT NOW THROUGH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BECAUSE IT'S NONPROFIT, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF APPLYING FOR GRANTS THAT COAB COULDN'T DO RUNNING THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. WELL THE PROGRAM WE WE AS THE CITY TRIED TO APPLY FOR THE THE KIDS HOPE ALLIANCE.

WE WERE TOLD IMMEDIATELY THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT A NONPROFIT, WE COULDN'T.

THAT'S HOW WE TEAMED UP WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB CAN GET GRANTS THAT WE CAN'T.

WHETHER THEY WILL SHARE THEM WITH US OR NOT IS ANOTHER ISSUE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO THEY THEY COULD POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS THAT COAB WAS TURNED DOWN FOR BECAUSE THEY'RE NON PROFIT FOR THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.

SO THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM.

BUT ACTUALLY THAT IS THE FUNDING FOR THEIR PROGRAM.

THE CORE OF THE FUNDING IS KIDS HOPE ALLIANCE GRANT FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

SO THEY APPLIED FOR THOSE FUNDS AND WERE AWARDED THOSE FUNDS AND THUS ARE RUNNING OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN, KEVIN.

THANK YOU, JOE, FOR SPEARHEADING THAT.

I BELIEVE THE VALUE OF THAT GRANT OVER FOUR YEARS IS ABOUT $1 MILLION.

IT IS, JOE.

IT'S $1.4 MILLION IS OVER FOUR YEARS.

AND I'LL GET YOU THE AMOUNT OF THE HOW MUCH IT'S WHAT THE SAVINGS IS IN OUR BUDGET.

GOOD STUFF. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KEVIN.

OKAY, SO WE'RE UP TO ITEM FOUR REPORTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

COMMISSIONER BOLE WELCOME BACK TO THE [INAUDIBLE].

UM, I AM VERY BUMMED THAT I MISSED AN EIGHT MINUTE MEETING.

I THINK I CAN SAY THAT STATISTICALLY I DID WATCH IT IN IRELAND AND I HOSTED A BEVERAGE TO OUR NEW CITY MANAGER.

NOT THAT I'M NOT A FAN OF OUR OLD CITY MANAGER.

NOT OLD, CURRENT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? HE IS SEXY..

EXCEPTIONAL CITY MANAGER.

UM. AND NOTES I TOOK, WE DO IN FACT HAVE BETTER WEATHER THAN IRELAND.

OKAY DON'T CARE STORM OR WHATEVER.

UM BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS OR WE TALK ABOUT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND STUFF.

ONE THING THAT GOES THROUGH MY TO DO MY BRAIN IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES WE SENT WAS ABOUT POROUS LAND.

I THINK WE ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK EVERY INCH OF CONCRETE THAT WE PUT DOWN IS AN INCH OF OF POROUS LAND THAT WE MAY BE TAKING AWAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I LOOK WITH A JAUNDICED EYE WHEN WHEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING STUFF, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IN THE BUDGET BUT YOU KNOW, I'M AN ANTI CONCRETE GUY SO JUST WANT TO ADD THAT.

THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER RING.

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BUT I THINK CHIEF VIC DID A FANTASTIC JOB EXPLAINING THE RUNDOWN OF THE HURRICANE UP AHEAD, SO DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

WATERS. I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW.

THANKS. OKAY, I'LL CLOSE IT OUT WITH I JUST WANT TO SAY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T ALREADY KNOW IT, WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR WITH NAS MAYPORT, WITH BASE COMMANDER, CAPTAIN BENDER.

AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF JOINING CAPTAIN BENDER THIS WEEK ON THE HMS DAUNTLESS, WHICH IS A BRITISH SHIP THAT WAS POURED OR BERTHED IN OUR BASIN FOR SEVERAL WEEKS TO DO SOME QUICK REPAIRS AND CONTINUE THEIR THEIR MANEUVERS.

BUT THEY THE CAPTAIN OF THE DAUNTLESS FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THEY LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH.

THEY JUST LOVE US AND NOW THEY LOVE ALL THE BEACHES, BUT THEY PARTICULARLY LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WAS NOTEWORTHY IS HE STATED THAT WHAT WE DID OR WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH BY ENGINEERING SYSTEMS OR BY SHIPBUILDING, WHICH IS A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE COMPANY THAT DOES A LOT OF BASE SHIP RETROFIT, WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED IN TWO WEEKS WOULD HAVE TAKEN 5 TO 6 WEEKS IN GREAT BRITAIN.

SO THEY THEY LOVE US.

AND THEN CHIEF VICK, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

ARE YOU GETTING THE NOTICES ON THE SHIPS WHEN THEY ARE COMING IN? OKAY. BECAUSE I HAVE GOTTEN SEVERAL AND MAYBE I NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GETTING THEM SO THAT WE'RE PREPARED BECAUSE THERE IS AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER COMING IN FROM GREAT BRITAIN IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THEY HAVE A FEW MORE RESIDENTS THAN A DESTROYER OR WHATEVER THAT WAS THAT I WAS ON.

BUT ANYWAY, SO WE LOVE OUR BRITISH FRIENDS AND THEY ARE.

WELCOME BACK. THAT'S MY REPORT.

LET'S MOVE TO COMMITTEE REPORTS SPECIFICALLY SEVEN A, WHICH IS THE BMRC APPOINTMENTS TO THE ARTS, RECREATION AND

[7. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

I HOST OR I, I LEAD THAT COMMITTEE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.

WE HAD THREE PEOPLE APPLY FOR POSITIONS.

WE ONLY HAD TWO.

SO HERE'S HOW IT WORKED OUT.

AND THIS IS THE RECOMMENDED MOTION IS FIRST OF ALL TO APPOINT TRACY GIBEAU TO THE ARTS RECREATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE TO SERVE AS A REGULAR MEMBER.

POSITION NUMBER FIVE FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

SECONDLY, TO APPOINT KAYLEEN MADDOX TO THE ARTS, RECREATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE TO SERVE AS A REGULAR MEMBER.

POSITION NUMBER SIX FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2023, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2023.

AND THAT IS NOT IMMEDIATELY.

AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THIS A REGULAR PRACTICE, AND THAT IS IF WE HAVE PEOPLE RAISING THEIR HAND, LET'S NOT WAIT TO PUT THEM IN QUEUE. SO THIS PERSON WOULD ACTUALLY BE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE WOULD CALL IT IT'S NOT A BACKUP, BUT IT'S IN WAITING.

WE'LL JUST CALL IT IN WAITING.

SO ON DECK.

SO THAT'S KAYLEEN MADDOX, THE ART COMMITTEE.

AND THEN FINALLY APPOINT HEATHER MARKEY TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE TO SERVE AS AN AT LARGE MEMBER POSITION NUMBER SIX FOR THE UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

AND BEFORE YOU VOTE ON THIS, I HAVE TO SAY I WAS JUST REALLY IMPRESSED.

AND AS TRACY GIBEAU HAD MENTIONED, WELL, I THINK TRACY MENTIONED IT.

BUT ANYWAYS, WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE PEOPLE RAISING THEIR HAND IN THIS COMMUNITY AND JUST CHAMPING AT THE BIT.

AND TWO OF THESE THREE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE SERVED ON EITHER COMMITTEE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE STRONG COMMITTEES AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.

BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE APPOINTMENTS? AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE THREE APPOINTMENTS? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE THREE APPOINTMENTS RECOMMENDED BY THE BRC.

SECOND.

MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION. DID YOU GUYS EMPHASIZE TO THEM THAT THEY SHOULD COMPLETE THE TRAINING? THE COMMITTEE MEMBER TRAINING.

I DON'T RECALL EMPHASIZING.

TRACY, DID WE EMPHASIZE YOUR TRAINING? RIGHT THAT THE YES PART OF IT.

YES. OKAY.

BECAUSE WE FOUND OURSELVES WITH COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND SUNSHINE AND SOME OF THE OTHER RULES.

SO WE CREATED THIS TRAINING PROGRAM.

THANK YOU, TRACEY, FOR PAYING ATTENTION.

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I DID. AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY DO IT, BUT THE BMRC IS NOT RECORDED.

I DID HAVE A CITIZEN REACH OUT.

IS THERE A WAY TO GET THAT COMMITTEE RECORDED? SHOULD BE LIVE STREAMED.

I SAW THAT TOO, AND I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR IT.

BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE QUESTION BEFORE WE VOTE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR EVEN DIRECT.

THE CITY MANAGER IS TO DOUBLE CHECK.

AND DONNA, MAYBE YOU'VE ALREADY DONE THIS.

ARE WE BUMPING UP AGAINST THE CEILING OF OUR CONTRACT ON THE RECORDED MEETINGS WITH THE OUTSIDE VENDOR? WOULD MAY I ASK COMMISSIONER, THAT WE BRING THIS BACK FOR CONVERSATION ON THE NEXT MEETING AND LET DONNA CHECK THAT OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CONTRACT.

AND IF WE GO OVER THE CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO PAY EXTRA.

AND WE NEED TO AT LEAST KNOW THAT BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN CONTRACT.

SURPRISINGLY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S PRETTY EXPENSIVE. WELL, AND THE OTHER THING I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S A SCHEDULING ISSUE WHERE THE CHAMBER IS NOT AVAILABLE AND THEY HAVE TO MEET AT AN ALTERNATE SITE. SO WE'VE ALWAYS MET IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

SO. BUT DO WE RECORD IN THE CONFERENCE ROOM? WE NEVER HAVE.

WE DID RECORD AUDIO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, WE DID HAVE AUDIO.

UM, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALL THREE OF THOSE CITIZENS DO COME FROM 1312, WHICH IS MY DISTRICT, AND I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE, UM, THAT THEY ALL ENDED UP ON THAT.

UM, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE HAVEN'T FINISHED VOTING, SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL VOTE.

SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? THAT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND DONNA, LET'S MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA OR REMIND ME AND WE'LL DISCUSS IT ON THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. ITEM EIGHT RESOLUTIONS.

WE'LL GO TO ITEM EIGHT, A, RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-31, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING STAFF TO ISSUE A TASK AUTHORIZATION TO

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 23-31]

MR. GARRITY. UM, I'VE ASKED AMANDA TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS, WHICH I'M SURE THERE ARE SEVERAL.

AMANDA. HI, GOOD EVENING.

AMANDA ASKEW, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

PULL UP A QUICK POWERPOINT.

UM, LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND THE MOUSE.

NO, THAT'S NOT MY POWERPOINT.

I APOLOGIZE. HERE.

OKAY, SO THIS AGENDA ITEM IS SEMI-RELATED TO AND COMES FROM THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AS WELL.

BOTH OF THEM ARE TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS ALONG AHERN.

THIS WAS FOUND IN OUR COMPLETE STREETS PROGRAM AND THIS IS ONE LITTLE I'M GOING TO CALL IT A BITE SIZED PIECE OUT OF A LARGER CONNECTION THAT WE'RE MAKING.

THIS PARTICULAR PIECE IS PROBABLY THE WORST, MOST CONGESTED, HARDEST AREA TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICTS IN THE AREA.

UM, SO LET'S SEE.

FIRST LINE.

OKAY, SO YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHERE THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT JUST PARK WILLY NILLY.

IT'S CONFUSING FOR PEDESTRIANS.

IT'S CONFUSING FOR PEOPLE WHEN THEY GO TO PARK.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT, KIND OF IN THAT AREA WHERE THAT RED CAR IS, THAT'S ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE AND THAT'S THE PARKING LOT BEHIND RAGTIME.

THIS IS A VITAL CONNECTION.

IT IS ON THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CONFLICTS IN THAT AREA.

AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE COMPLETE STREETS PROCESS, AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED IN OUR CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

IN THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN, WE DID ACTUALLY SHOW TO MR. HEROLD'S POINT, A BIKE PLAN.

THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN IS MORE OF A RELATIVELY GENERIC DOCUMENT IN THAT IT IDENTIFIED ISSUES AND POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, NOT NECESSARILY THAT THOSE WOULD BE THE FINAL

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NORTH IS THIS DIRECTION AND THEN A SIDEWALK.

AGAIN, THAT DELINEATION BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND THE STREET PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING THERE WE HAD THEM.

LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS 42 EAST COAST, THE NEW BUILDING THAT'S GOING UP AND TRY TO ALIGN THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION.

AGAIN, THIS IS RELATED TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

AND THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS LOOKING AT THE COMPLETE CONNECTION OF THIS OR CONTINUATION OF THIS FROM SEMINOLE ROAD TO THIS THIS POINT RIGHT HERE. SO IT IS PART OF AN OVERALL PLAN FOR CONNECTIVITY.

WE DO TRY TO SPEND THE MONEY WISELY WITHIN THE CITY WE JUST COMPLETED, OR THE DONNER ROAD PROJECT, WHICH WAS A CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

WE ADDED IN THAT SIDEWALK.

WE HAVE THE LEVEE ROAD SIDEWALK THAT'S COMING IN.

SO WE DID IDENTIFY THIS AS THE NEXT UPCOMING PROJECT.

I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I'VE LONG CALLED THAT INTERSECTION, THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE, BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THOSE DANGEROUS INTERSECTIONS.

SO DANGEROUS IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH AND SOUTH ON EAST COAST DRIVE, YOU GUYS HAVE ANOTHER STOP SIGN A FEW BLOCKS NORTH ON EAST COAST DRIVE.

RECENTLY HAVE YOU ALL THOUGHT ABOUT PUTTING A FOUR WAY STOP ON THAT SITE? WELL, THERE IS A STOP SIGN RIGHT NOW COMING OFF OF AHERN AND THEN THIS IS THAT OFFSET WHICH PROVIDES IT'S THE OFFSET THAT MAKES IT OFFSET.

AND I'M JUST ASKING, DID Y'ALL IS THAT IN THE CONSIDERATION OF DOING A A NORTH SOUTH STOP SIGN? THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

IT WAS NOT SOMETHING NECESSARILY IDENTIFIED IN THIS.

AND TO ANSWER A QUESTION THAT MR. BOLE MIGHT ASK COMMISSIONER BOLE, THIS AREA IS RIGHT NOW 100% PAVED.

AND HERE WE IT ISN'T THERE ARE SOME KNOWN DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AND AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD BE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS AS WELL.

AND SO HAVE WE APPROACH THE THOSE RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS YET? YES WE HAVE AND WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM.

REALLY THE RIGHT OF WAY ACTUALLY GOES UP TO THE THEIR BUILDINGS.

AND IN ONE INSTANCE SOME OF THE STOOP, THE STEPS ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE'VE PULLED IT OFF OF THE BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT AND PROVIDING AN AREA FOR SOME LANDSCAPING.

I THINK THAT WAS HIS MAJOR CONCERN, THAT YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE SIDEWALK RIGHT UP ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.

JUST BECAUSE IT IS A SIDEWALK DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE BICYCLES ON IT.

I KNOW THAT IS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF BICYCLE TRAFFIC IN HERE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL THAT WILL GO ULTIMATELY FROM SEMINOLE TO THE OCEAN.

THE THOUGHT PROCESS FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONNECTIVITY IS TRYING TO GET FOLKS OFF OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.

UM, ONE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY SPACE ON ATLANTIC TO ADD A PATH AND TWO THERE'S A LOT OF DRIVEWAY THAT INTERSECTS ATLANTIC BOULEVARD MAKING IT UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING IN ON EAST COAST AND AHERN, HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT ONE, THE PARKING THERE? AND I KNOW THE PARKING PROBABLY WOULD BE FOR THE OTHER BUILDING.

UM, AND ARE WE ADDING SPACES? DOES IT OR ARE WE TAKING AWAY BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ADDING SPACES, BUT IT LOOKS COMPLETELY CONFIGURED DIFFERENTLY AND I WONDER HOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT NEW BUILDING COMING IN IS GOING TO AFFECT THAT? AND THEN TO, YOU KNOW, MISTER HAROLD'S POINT ABOUT THE CROSSWALK THERE, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER WATERS WHO WAS MENTIONING IT, THAT OFFSET OF THE THE STOP SIGNS THERE.

AND WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING, IS THERE A WAY TO COMBINE THOSE? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS POTENTIALLY.

YES, WE'RE ADDING PARKING DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, THIS IS ALL PARKING WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S IT'S LEGAL PARKING.

PEOPLE DON'T IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S IN FRONT OF THOSE HOMES.

SO I PROBABLY WOULDN'T PARK THERE OR FEEL COMFORTABLE PARKING THERE.

SO WE ARE REMOVING THAT TO PUT THE SIDEWALK, BUT THEN GAINING THOSE PARKING SPACES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL PEOPLE PULL IN, THEY PARK DIAGONALLY.

SO I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT TO SAY THERE'S NO NET LOSS IN PARKING, BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY MAKING IT SAFER IN THAT AREA.

AS FAR AS 42 EAST COAST GOES, THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTION AGAIN, WE IT BECAUSE OF THE OFFSET INTERSECTION, IT WAS REALLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT

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IS IT IN YOUR PICTURE? IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT CONNECTS THE TWO THAT OFFSET STOP SIGN.

BUT IS THERE? THERE ISN'T.

THERE IS A A CONNECTION NOW.

IT'S IT'S AWKWARD THIS LET'S SEE IF I CAN THERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE BECAUSE USUALLY YOU HAVE TO CROSS OVER AND GET TO THE RIGHT.

FOURTH, BUT IT IS EXTREMELY AWKWARD, BECAUSE OF THE OFFSET NATURE.

YEAH. SO HE COMES HERE AND THEN YOU GO A COUPLE MORE FEET AND THEN YOU CROSS OVER HERE.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO LINE THAT UP TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE EASY TO NAVIGATE AND BE IN LINE WITH THAT SIDEWALK THERE.

DO YOU FEEL THAT THAT EAST COAST DRIVE, AHERN BUILDING THAT'S BEING PUT THERE, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR COMPLETE STREETS DESIGN AT ALL? NOT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

THAT BUILDING IS ON THE THE EAST SIDE OF THAT BUILDING.

THE FONT REALLY IS TWO FEET OFF OF THE SIDEWALK.

THAT'S YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALK IS THE PROPERTY LINE THERE.

SO THERE'S NO ROOM FOR ANY TYPE OF SIDEWALK ENHANCEMENT UNLESS YOU LOOK AT GOING ONE WAY THERE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE DID HAVE OUR ENGINEERS LOOK AT.

GOING ONE WAY, UNFORTUNATELY, HELPS IN SOME WAYS AND IT HURTS IN OTHER WAYS.

WE WERE AFRAID IT WAS GOING TO PUSH TRAFFIC INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ONTO FIRST AND SECOND STREET.

PEOPLE NOT KNOWING THE AREA WOULD GET TURNED AROUND AND THEN HAVE TO GO INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO TURN.

QUICK QUESTION. BUT THE GREEN SPACE ON THERE IS THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER.

GUY IS THAT CITY MAINTAINED GREEN SPACE.

I'M TECHNICALLY THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD FALL WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE.

NO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AREA WE MAINTAIN AND THE BEACHES, TOWN CENTER AGENCY PITCHES IN, WE MAINTAIN THAT AREA.

SO YOU MAY. OKAY, SO THAT'S CITY PROPERTY.

SO WE DID ASK AS A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY CONCEPTUAL PLAN WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THE DETAILED DRAWINGS TO LOOK AT AND CONTINUE THE SAME BRICK.

SO IT FEELS LIKE IT'S PART OF THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER.

WE HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS YET.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WE ORIGINALLY SAID WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT BRICK, BUT WE WERE HOPING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT PERMEABLE, BUT WE HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, CHARGE YOU THE AMOUNT THEY CHARGE FOR THOSE BRICKS.

OKAY. SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

FIRST, I HAVE TO SAY KUDOS FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN YOUR STAFF.

THIS IS EXCITING.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

HOWEVER, WE ONLY GET ONE CHANCE TO DO IT RIGHT AND WE'RE GOING TO SPEND OVER $100,000 ON ENGINEERING.

SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SURE. THE CITIZEN EARLIER SPOKE TO THE ISSUE OF THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE BIKE PATHS, AND I GET THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO THAT IN ALL APPLICATIONS.

THIS IS SO DIFFICULT, THIS THIS LITTLE STRETCH.

SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY NOT ON THE BIKE PATHS? AND IS THAT A RECOMMENDATION ON A PRELIMINARY FROM THE ENGINEERS ALREADY? AND IF SO, CAN WE SEE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO YOU CAN DESIGN IT MULTIPLE WAYS.

YOU COULD DO AWAY WITH THE SIDEWALK ALTOGETHER AND DO NOTHING BUT BIKE PATHS.

BUT IT WAS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT.

AND UNLESS YOU CONTINUE THE BIKE PATH ALONG THE ENTIRE PROJECT, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO A BIKE PATH FOR JUST ONE BLOCK.

SO THE DECISION WAS REACHED BY TALKING TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS.

THESE FOLKS RIGHT HERE, IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY JUST TWO PROPERTY OWNERS.

ONE GENTLEMAN OWNS BOTH OF THESE.

AND THEN THERE'S A MAJORITY OWNER HERE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH.

THEY LIKE THE SIDEWALK.

AND AGAIN, PER THEIR REQUEST, WE'VE MOVED THE SIDEWALK OFF OF THEIR PROPERTY JUST SLIGHTLY.

BUT IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE TO POTENTIALLY LOOK AT ADDING BIKE PATHS.

BUT IF YOU JUST HAD IT IN ONE BLOCK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT REALLY MAKES SENSE.

SO THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.

SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE A BIKE PATH PROPOSED ON THE REST OF AHERN? WE HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE PATH, JUST LIKE YOU SEE OUT HERE OUTSIDE AND LIKE WE'VE DONE ON DONNER.

THOSE ARE WIDER THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL SIDEWALK.

IT ALLOWS FOR BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, JOGGERS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS.

SO IT ALLOWS ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, WHEREAS BIKE PATHS ONLY SERVE BIKES.

UNDERSTOOD. AND SO I BELIEVE THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK IS NINE FEET WIDE.

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AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WOULD BE UM, AND IT'S MULTI-PURPOSE.

I GET THAT. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION MARK IS WHO'S REALLY USING THAT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AHERN? I SEE IT MORE LIKELY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AHERN, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS YOU WOULD BE CROSSING FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE THE FUTURE MULTI-PURPOSE TRAIL THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

AND YOU WOULD NATURALLY CROSS INTO THIS SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE TO TO GO TO THE BEACH.

SO THAT'S WHAT BUT THAT YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU'RE A BEACH GOER AND YOU PARKED ON THE WESTERN END OF AHERN BUT THERE IS NO.

WELL, I'M HOPING YOU'RE TAKING YOUR BIKE OR YOU'RE WALKING THERE.

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT DRIVING YOUR CAR.

SO WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT LOCAL CITIZENS ACCESSING THE BEACH, MORE THAN LIKELY, YES.

AGAIN, IF YOU GO OUT THERE AND YOU WATCH STURDEVANT, IT'S KIND OF THE BACK DOOR TO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.

YOU SEE A LOT OF BICYCLISTS AND WALKERS.

THEY JUST FEEL SAFER.

I DO GOING ON THAT ROUTE VERSUS TAKING ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.

OKAY. ANOTHER QUESTION MARK AND I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN TO THE OWNER OF THE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE NORTH SIDE.

UM, THAT NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF EAST COAST.

AND AHERN IS A BIGGER THAN A BIRD BATH.

OKAY. AND THERE IS NO SEWER STORMWATER, SEWER GRATE THERE.

IT'S ON THE SOUTH EAST CORNER, RIGHT.

QUASI IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO IS PART OF THE ENGINEERING DESIGN TO ASK ABOUT ACTUALLY PUTTING IN A DRAINAGE GRATE ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE SOUTHEAST.

UM, THEY ARE IF IF APPROVED, THEY ARE TASKED WITH LOOKING AT MAKING DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.

WOULD NOT KNOW EXACTLY IF THEY COME UP WITH THAT PARTICULAR STORM GRATE.

AND AS I SAID, WE WERE POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT SOME PERMEABLE MATERIAL IN HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WOULD BE FLUSHED OUT IN THEIR PROJECT.

SO MY MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ME ANYWAYS IS IF WE APPROVE THIS OVER 100,000 BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A SECOND ONE COMING UP BEHIND THIS, IF WE APPROVE THAT, ARE WE LOCKED INTO THIS DESIGN OR DO WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE ENGINEERING FIRM ABOUT POSSIBLY CHANGING THE BIKE PATH, IF WARRANTED? YES. I MEAN, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE PLAN.

IT RIGHT NOW THEY WOULD JUST BE DOING THE THE FINAL PLANS.

BUT WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THAT AND HAVE THEM MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NECESSARY OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE IN THE BUILDING BUSINESS, CHANGE ORDERS COST YOU A LOT OF MONEY. SO I DON'T WANT CHANGE ORDERS.

HOW MUCH TIME WOULD WE HAVE AFTER TONIGHT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH ANY CITIZENS FOR POTENTIAL CHANGE BEFORE ENDING UP IN A CHANGE ORDER SITUATION? WELL, THE THE CONTRACTOR WILL WORK ARE WORKING FOR US.

SO IF WE ASK FOR ADDITIONAL TIME, WE WOULD BE GRANTED ADDITIONAL TIME.

IT PREVIOUSLY. WE THINK A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE WENT THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND I THINK THE KEY IS OUR INPUT AND THE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE PLANNERS AND THE CITIZENS OR WHATEVER.

SO I THINK THERE'S SOME SOME SOME GIVE THERE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE SET ON A PLAN WHEN WE COME UP.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET INPUT.

YEAH. AND BY THE WAY, NOBODY KNOWS MORE ABOUT THIS THAN COMMISSIONER BOLE BECAUSE YOU'RE PART OF THE TOWN CENTER COMMITTEE OR GROUP.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME AND I THINK THERE'S SOLUTIONS OUT THERE, BUT THAT PARKING THAT IS BEHIND .. RAGTIME.. BEHIND RAGTIME.

BUT THAT PARKING, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S A FREE FOR ALL.

OKAY. PEOPLE STUCK IN HERE AND TUCK IN THERE.

THAT'LL BE CLEANED UP WITH THE ANGLED PARKING.

UM, BUT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THAT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT LOADING AND UNLOADING ZONE FOR DELIVERY OF FOOD PRODUCTS.

OKAY. AND IT OCCURRED TO ME AND MR. BOLE, YOU MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, WHETHER IF THEY STILL NEED TO USE THAT SPACE.

SO THERE'LL BE TIMES WHERE EITHER THE BIKE PATH OR THE PARKING WOULD BE BLOCKED BY ONE OF THESE SEMI TRUCKS AS THEY ARE NOW, AS THEY ARE NOW.

AND SO I WONDER AND MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING AS YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, REMEMBER, THE WHOLE DYNAMIC IS GOING TO CHANGE THERE WITH THAT NEW BUILDING, OKAY.

BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NEW BUILDING.

THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKING UNDERNEATH.

I KNOW ABOUT THE BIKE, THE BIKE SPOTS THAT WERE TRADED FOR THE PARKING.

THAT DYNAMIC IN THERE IS GOING TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

THE WORKERS, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER ABOUT THE SPECIFIC THING.

SUPPOSEDLY THE NEW BUILDING AFTER HOURS, THEIR PARKING WOULD BE OPEN.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? CORRECT. THEY THEY TOLD US THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE BIKE PARKING.

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BUT I THINK THE DYNAMIC ON THAT CORNER WILL CHANGE BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE SOME SOME PARKING LIMITED, BUT YOU'LL ALSO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE BEACHES, TOWN CENTER.

I'LL JUST DISTILL IT. WE WANT PARKING FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE WANT PARKING FOR OUR GUESTS.

OKAY. AND TO HAVE BOTH OKAY IS A CONUNDRUM.

I MEAN, IT'S A IT'S A PROBLEM.

SO I THINK WE WORK YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION, I'LL INPUT FROM THE TOWN CENTER.

WE MEET ONCE A MONTH.

WE'LL INPUT, WE INPUT, YOU KNOW, WALK IT.

BUT I THINK I THINK THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE THERE WITH THAT.

I MEAN, I KNOW I HAVE DAUGHTERS THAT WORK DOWN THERE AND I KNOW WHERE THEY PARK ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO SO AS A TAKEAWAY, IF YOU WOULD HONOR ME ON THIS AND JUST ASK THE QUESTION, YOU MAY ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE UNLOADING OF FOOD PRODUCTS FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND THE BARS.

ALSO A NOISE ISSUE.

OH, YEAH. OH, I WOULD IMAGINE.

BUT THE ARE THEY ALREADY USING CERTAIN HOURS? ARE THEY DIRECTING THEIR VENDORS TO DELIVER ON CERTAIN HOURS.

I THINK. I KNOW. BUT AMANDA, I'LL LET YOU.

WE DO NOT HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT DIRECTS THEM TO UNLOAD AND LOAD AT CERTAIN HOURS.

I THINK THEY ASK THEIR VENDORS TO COME IN IN THE MORNING BEFORE IT GETS REALLY CRAZY.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU MIGHT BE AT THE END OF THE ROUTE FOR CISCO AND THEY END UP COMING.

AND AND THAT'S MY OBSERVATION BECAUSE I DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALMOST DAILY.

AND SO I SEE THAT AND I THINK THEY'RE MAKING THE VERY BEST OUT OF A NOT SO GOOD SITUATION.

BUT THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS, AS WE HAVE THE DIALOG, IF WE WERE TO CHANGE AND TO REDUCE OR EVEN ELIMINATE THE WIDE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AHERN IN FAVOR OF BIKE LANES, ONE OF THOSE BIKE LANES ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS GOING TO BE COVERED BY A TRUCK AT TIMES, WHICH IS OKAY.

AND I'M NOT HERE TO PROMOTE DOING AN ORDINANCE.

OKAY. I WOULD PROMOTE SENDING.

COMMISSIONER BOLE BACK TO HIS SECOND POSITION IN TOWN CENTER AND ADVOCATING THAT THEY TRY TO WORK THAT OUT AND DO MORNING AND STICK AS RIGIDLY AS THEY CAN TO AS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

AND MANNY, YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE CAN BRING THE CONTRACTING FIRM IN HERE, TALK TO THEM, CITIZEN INPUT, ETCETERA, ETCETERA, TO HAVE THAT INTERFACE WITH THEM SO THEY HEAR US, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE GOING THROUGH BEFORE THE FINAL PLAN, AM I CORRECT? CORRECT. BUT WE DEFINITELY CHANGED THE MAIN STREET CONTRACT OR DESIGN.

OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE PARKING LOT IF YOU GO WEST, I'M SORRY, EAST WHERE IT ENDS IN THE GRASS.

AND THEN YOU CROSS OVER THE GRASS AND THERE'S THAT ALLEYWAY OF PARKING SPOTS.

HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? IS THAT GOING TO BE INCLUDED? IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE AT ALL? BECAUSE THAT IS A ANGLE PARKING ONE WAY AND BACK OUT? NO, IT'S MOSTLY, I GUESS, FOR THE EMPLOYEES THERE.

BUT HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED AT INCLUDING THAT IN THIS DESIGN? SO I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE RAGTIME PARKING LOT AND THEN THE WIDTHS, JOSEPH'S, THAT AREA.

SO THAT'S TECHNICALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE NOT GONE ON THERE AND HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS.

WE WILL STILL MAINTAIN A CURB CUT FOR THEM SO THEY CAN ACCESS IT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE ON.

WE HAVE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING RAGTIME PARKING LOT.

THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THEIR DUMPSTER GETTING BLOCKED.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY BRINGING IN A COMPACTOR.

AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO POTENTIALLY REORIENT THEIR PARKING LOT.

SO, ONE, THEY CAN GET MORE PARKING SPACES AND TWO, HAVE BETTER ACCESS BECAUSE THERE'S A DUMPSTER ON THAT ALLEYWAY OF PARKING AS WELL.

BUT THOSE ARE TECHNICALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY.

SO WE ARE NOT YOU KNOW, WE CAN GIVE THEM SUGGESTIONS TO ADDRESS THAT WITH THE WITH THE OWNERS MAKING THIS ONE BIG COMPREHENSIVE MOVE BEHIND WHITSON RAGTIME.

WE COULD DEFINITELY ENTERTAIN THAT.

THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE OWNERS, SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THAT DIALOG STARTED.

IF YOU WANT ME TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD ADD UP IF YOU TAKE THE GRASS AWAY BETWEEN THOSE TWO PARKING AREAS.

IT WOULD JUST CLEAN IT UP AND FREE IT UP.

AND I KNOW THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER WAS LOOKING AT ONE TIME CONSOLIDATED TRASH BECAUSE OF EACH BUSINESS HAS A DUMPSTER.

EXACTLY. YOU'RE TAKING UP POTENTIAL PARKING SPACES.

UM, SO.

SO, AMANDA, ONE LAST QUESTION ON THE ANGLED PARKING.

OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE ADDED SOME GREEN SPACE, BUT ON THAT ANGLED PART, PARKING, IS THAT ALL ASPHALT OR ARE WE GOING TO USE TURF BLOCK ON THAT? UM, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DIRECT OUR ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT.

YEAH, LIKE I'M WRITING IT DOWN TO, TO LOOK AT BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT EXASPERATING ANY DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

AND THIS IS VERY CONCEPTUAL TOO, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ADDING BIKE RACKS IN THAT AREA AND DON'T TELL ANYBODY, BUT WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE DOWN A PALM TREE, BUT WE WILL BE PLANTING BACK PALM TREES.

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THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, AMANDA.

STAY AROUND. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR AMANDA? OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-31? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE 23-31.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. AYE. OPPOSED.

IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO RESOLUTION EIGHT A, WE SAY NOT EIGHT A, SORRY, EIGHT.

B, RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-32.

[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 23-32]

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR AMANDA ON THAT SEGMENT? OKAY. AMANDA. SORRY.

SO IS THAT EXISTING SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 800.

IS IT FIVE FEET RIGHT NOW? IT'S FOUR.

OKAY. IT'S LIKE IT'S THREE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EIGHT FEET WIDE.

YES, THAT'S SIMILAR IN WIDTH TO SHERRY DRIVE THAT WE HAVE THE WIDE RIGHT OUT HERE AND ON LEVI WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO AND SOME INSTANCES WHEN YOU'RE WORKING AROUND A POWER POLE OR SOME OTHER OBSTACLE, SOMETIMES IT NECKS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

AGAIN, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT IT'S A MULTI-PURPOSE PATH SO BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS CAN USE IT.

PEOPLE USUALLY JUST WALK ON THE ROAD OVER THERE, HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH IT, NEEDING TO BE EIGHT FEET WIDE.

UH, JUST FOR CONTINUITY OF PURPOSES AT LEAST EIGHT FEET WIDE.

YOU CAN AGAIN GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT TO TO FACILITATE A BICYCLIST AND A PEDESTRIAN, YOU DO NEED AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE VERSUS IF YOU WERE JUST ACCOMMODATING A BICYCLE.

TYPICALLY A BICYCLE LANE IS ONLY FOUR FEET OR A FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.

SO THE EIGHT FEET INCORPORATES BOTH USES MORE COMFORTABLY.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE.

EXCUSE ME? PLENTY OF ROOM.

I KNOW, BUT MY ISSUE IS GOING FROM 3FT TO 8FT FOR BRUCE'S POINT EARLIER ABOUT PERMEABILITY, BUT ALSO, IS IT NECESSARY FOR THAT STRETCH OF PROPERTY TO BE EIGHT FEET WIDE? SO, YEAH, THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE FEES TO LOOK AT FROM SEMINOLE ALL THE WAY TO THIS LAST SECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT A AHERN.

ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, IT COULD GO LESS, BUT I MEAN I DROVE IT AGAIN TODAY.

I JUST THINKING THIS PROCESS THROUGH AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A SEEMS LIKE A BIGGER, A HUGE, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN WIDTH BUT I SEE FOR CONTINUITY AND WELL, AND THEN YOU BUILD IT AND THEY'LL COME.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVEN COME OVER HERE TO DONNA, BUT I MEAN PEOPLE ARE TO THE POINT USING THAT SIDEWALK BOULEVARD.

I GET IT. WHAT WE'RE BUYING HERE IS THE ANALYSIS.

RIGHT. THE ANALYSIS.

IN OTHER WORDS, THIS. SO IF WE HAVE INPUT TO THEM, YOU KNOW, HEY, HOW MANY PEOPLE WALK THERE? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE? I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT THE GRANT FOR THE SCHOOLS DOWN SEMINOLE.

RIGHT. THAT HUGE SIDEWALK.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE..

GETTING OFF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.

I GET IT. WE CAN HAVE INPUT TO THE THE ENGINEERING FIRM AND THEY DO THE MATH RIGHT, AMANDA? THEY ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, FOOT TRAFFIC.

AMANDA, SINCE WE'RE BRAINSTORMING TO SOME DEGREE HERE, I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF YOU COULD ASK THEM IN THEIR ANALYSIS TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN COST BE BETWEEN REGULAR CONCRETE FOR THE SIDEWALK AND PERMEATE PERMEABLE CONCRETE.

I'M SURE IT'S A LOT, BUT I THINK THIS BODY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.

YES, BE GLAD TO.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 23-32? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 23-32.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE SIGNIFY WITH YOUR VOTE, WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUS OR THE RESOLUTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

RESOLUTION, THIS IS NUMBER EIGHT C.

[8.C. RESOLUTION NO. 23-33]

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I'M GOING TO ASK VIC TO SPEAK TO THIS, IF HE WOULD.

2022.

JUST CHECKING. THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER KELLY THE STATES ABOUT A YEAR BEHIND IN THEIR GRANT FUNDING.

SO IT DOES HAVE LAST YEAR'S DATE BECAUSE IT IS A FISCAL YEAR FOR THEM THEY'RE WORKING ON.

THIS IS A STANDARD GRANT WE APPLY FOR EVERY YEAR.

THIS IS SOME MONEY THAT COMES FROM THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT THAT COMES THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE PUT THAT TO WORK TO ENHANCE THE ABILITIES FOR OUR AGENCY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY TO THE AGENCY.

SO THERE'S NO MATCH FOR IT. IT'S JUST MONEY THAT COMES TO US THROUGH OUR OUR STATE PARTNERS.

ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 23-33? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2333.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. EIGHT D, RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE LEASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ASH PROPERTIES AND THE

[8.D. RESOLUTION NO. 23-36]

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. GARRITY. YES, AT THE LAST MEETING, YOU APPROVED THE REHAB AND REMODEL OF THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, AND THEY WANT TO START THAT PROCESS ON APRIL 11TH.

SO IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, IT WAS, OKAY, WHERE DO WE GO? WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? WE CAN'T BE IN THE BUILDING.

SO WE SORT OF HUSTLED SOME OF THIS STUFF, CAME IN AND ISN'T QUITE ACCURATE.

SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND HE CAN EXPLAIN THAT, AT LEAST THIS ONE.

AND MAYBE. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH THE NEXT ONE? I AM ALL RIGHT WITH THE NEXT ONE, ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T COMPARED IT TO THE I'M NOT ALL RIGHT WITH THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO ON THIS ONE, THERE'S SOME NOTED DISCREPANCIES IF YOU'RE COMPARING IT TO THE STAFF REPORT OR MAYBE THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT THIS IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE ATTACHMENT, THE PROPOSAL TERMS, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.

IT'S NOT OFF BY A LOT, BUT IT IS OFF.

SO THE LEASE RATE IS INSTEAD OF $15 PER SQUARE FOOT, IT'S $12.50 PER SQUARE FOOT.

THE CAM INSTEAD OF $5 PER SQUARE FOOT IS $5.54 A SQUARE FOOT.

THE SO WHAT THAT DOES IS WHEN YOU SKIP DOWN TO THE RENT IT, IT'S STATED AS $1,666.67 PER MONTH, INCLUDING CAM.

IT'S ACTUALLY IF YOU TAKE THE 1250 PLUS WHAT IS NOW $461.67, IT ACTUALLY COMES OUT TO $1,711.67 PER MONTH. SO AGAIN, NOT OFF BY A LOT, BUT OFF.

AND THE SECURITY DEPOSIT ACTUALLY WHEN I COMPARED IT TO THE LEASE IS ACTUALLY $1,831.48, NOT THE 1666 YOU SEE THERE.

THOSE ARE THE MAIN CHANGES.

SO WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS IS THE RESOLUTION HAS A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $20,000.04.

IT SHOULD BE 20,000.

$600. AND THE SAME FOR THE THE STAFF REPORT.

I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THE YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE APPROVING IF YOU APPROVED THIS THIS LEASE AGREEMENT.

IT WOULD JUST BE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION.

YEAH. SO WHERE IS THIS LIKE PHYSICALLY? IT'S IN THE SIMPLY TASTY THAI PARKING LOT, THE SIMPLY TASTY THAI SHOPPING CENTER.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE NAVY EXCHANGE, IT'S ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

THAT WHOLE BUILDING, I THINK IT'S CALLED THE PAN AM.

YES. YES.

OH, OKAY. THAT WOULD HOUSE THE ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF.

AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT RESOLUTION.

IS THAT WHERE THEY'LL BE PARKING THEIR CARS AND THEIR TRUCKS? WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? SO HOW LONG IS THE LEASE? I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING, WHAT, SIX MONTHS? A YEAR? IT'S A ONE YEAR LEASE, BUT IT'S YOU CAN TERMINATE IT WITH 30 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE.

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AND IT GOES MONTH TO MONTH IF YOU NEED IT MORE.

OKAY. WELL, WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO NEED THE SPACE UNLESS WE WANT THEM WORKING FROM HOME.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO IF IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2336 AS AMENDED WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH.

I. I.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 23 DASH 36 PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NOW WE'RE ON TO EIGHT E, WHICH IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 23, DASH 37.

[8.E. RESOLUTION NO. 23-37]

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. AND JUST BEFORE I HAND THIS OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, THIS IS BASICALLY A TRAILER THAT WOULD HOUSE THE.

SUPERVISORS AND ACTUALLY PROVIDE FACILITIES FOR THE EMPLOYEES DURING THE TIME OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

IT WOULD BE HOUSED ON THE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD.

AND SO I'M GOING TO HAND THIS OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

DON'T. AND IF WE'RE NOT IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEN LET'S PUT IT OFF UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

IT'S YOUR CALL. I DON'T WANT TO STYMIE THE PROGRESS.

AND IF YOU NEED THIS, I THINK THERE'S A URGENCY.

I THINK I JUST.

I WASN'T ABLE TO READ THE VERSION THAT WAS ATTACHED AS FAR AS THE LEASE AGREEMENT.

AND I DID ASK FOR A CLEAN COPY.

I DID GET ONE. I JUST I JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME BETWEEN AN HOUR AND A HALF AGO AND NOW TO READ IT.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A BOILERPLATE.

THE SATELLITE, THE FIRST IN SPACE VENDOR, PROVIDED WHAT LOOKS LIKE A BOILERPLATE LEASE FOR THAT OBJECT.

IT'S NOT FOR PROPERTY.

IT'S YOUR CALL. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT IN MORE DETAIL.

I DON'T WANT TO STOP IT EITHER.

IF IT'S IF IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND EVERYONE'S COMFORTABLE WITH.

LOOK, THE CAP IS THE 17,000 FOR EIGHT MONTHS.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THAT'S THOSE ARE THE BIG.

SO I HAVE TO SPEAK FIRST ON THIS ONE.

I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, BUT WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO START ON THE RENOVATIONS ON THE THE BUILDING IN THE CITY YARD, SEPTEMBER 11TH.

OKAY. AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO MOVE INTO IMMEDIATELY.

WELL, THEY HAVE TO START MOVING OUT BASICALLY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

THE THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

PLUS, WE GOT TO GET DELIVERY OF THIS BUILDING.

DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.

I DO NOT EITHER. LIKE I SAID, THIS JUST REALLY CAME TOGETHER AT THE LAST MINUTE AND IT IS RUSHED AND I APOLOGIZE.

BUT AND I WOULD SAY IF YOU NEED TO PUT IT OFF UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

THAT WOULD BE UP TO I CERTAINLY WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT.

WHAT IS OUR DATE OF OUR NEXT MEETING? SEPTEMBER 11TH, 11.

SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 11TH.

ALL RIGHT. SO BUT I MEAN, WE COULD CERTAINLY TELL THE PROVIDER THAT WE'RE VERY LIKELY TO APPROVE IT.

THAT'S NOT THE DEBATE. BUT WE NEED AND I AGREE.

YEAH, WELL, SO MOBILIZE AND GET US A BUILDING.

BUT WE'RE NOT SIGNING ANYTHING YET, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THIS IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS.

YES, YES, YES.

YEAH, I'M SURE THEY GOT BAZILLIONS OF THEM OUT.

YEAH, I MEAN, I'M SURE WE CAN MOBILIZE IT WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS JUST GOING TO HAVE TO UTILIZE THE THE PAN AM OFFICE UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LEASE.

IS THE APPREHENSION IS BECAUSE THIS CAME TOGETHER SO QUICKLY.

WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TONIGHT, MAYOR.

NO, OUR ATTORNEY HASN'T FULLY VETTED THE CONTRACT.

AND I THINK EVEN THOUGH, AS HE JUST MENTIONED IT, BOILERPLATE IS PROBABLY FINE, I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO BE IN SUCH A HURRY THAT WE MAKE MISTAKES.

AND BELIEVE ME, OUR CITIZENS WILL WILL HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE MISTAKES.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE I WANT TO MAKE SURE LIKE THE DISCREPANCIES AND THE OTHER ONES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CATCH THEM HERE, IF THERE ARE ANY.

THERE MAY NOT BE ANY, BUT JUST IF WE MOVE TODAY, THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS. YEAH. SO IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS, THEN I'LL MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING AGENDA.

LET'S DO THAT. YES.

I'M SORRY. NOT PART OF THAT CONSENSUS.

ALL RIGHT, JOE. JOE LIKES TO MOVE THINGS TO THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE YOU NOTICE THE MATH THAT'S GOING ON.

YES. YES, I DO. WELL, NO, REALLY, I LIKE TO GET THINGS DONE.

SO, YOU KNOW. OKAY.

SO WE ARE NOW DOWN TO ITEM OFF CITY ATTORNEY.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS THIS EVENING? I DO NOT. OKAY.

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SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE WILL MOVE DIRECTLY TO THE CLOSING COMMENTS.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

I'M GOING TO ASK MR. GARRITY FIRST TO GIVE HIS CLOSING COMMENTS.

THAT WAY I WON'T FORGET TO CALL ON HIM.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR ASKING ME TO COME BACK AND PUTTING UP WITH ME FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN.

I ENJOY WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU.

UM, AND OF COURSE, I LOVE WORKING WITH THE STAFF HERE.

THEY'RE JUST GREAT PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD SAY THIS ABOUT ABOUT THE STAFF HERE AND MY MEMORY GOES BACK TO 1970 WHEN IT STARTED TO WORK FOR MCDONALD'S. WE WORKED WITH A LOT OF HIGH CALIBER PEOPLE IN THOSE DAYS, AND THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST AS GOOD AS OR NOT BETTER THAN ANYBODY THAT I'VE EVER WORKED WITH.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO TRUST IN THEM.

YOU'VE GOT GREAT STAFF HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DO A GREAT JOB FOR THIS CITY.

THEY DO. UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE CITIZENS FOR THE COMMENTS AND THEIR PUBLIC INPUT, BUT I'D ALSO ASK THE CITIZENS TO TRUST THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THESE PEOPLE THAT SIT UP HERE, THEY'RE ALL VERY WELL EDUCATED.

THEY'RE PROFESSIONALLY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, THEY WERE COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO PUT THEIR NAME ON A BALLOT AND GO THROUGH WHAT WE GO THROUGH UP HERE EVERY TWO WEEKS AND 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THEY'RE INVESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, SOCIALLY, AND THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE.

BUT PLEASE ALLOW THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS.

UM, AND THIS IS A NORMAN ROCKWELL COMMITTEE OR NORMAN ROCKWELL COMMUNITY, AND IT'S JUST GREAT.

YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE RIDING THEIR BIKES, WALKING THEIR DOGS OUT FOR WALKS, RUNNERS ON THE EIGHT FOOT PASS.

IT'S JUST A GREAT COMMUNITY, A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME BACK.

THANK YOU, JOE. AND WE'RE ALL INVITED TO SANIBEL, RIGHT? SURE. YEAH.

WELL, BRING YOUR BOOTS.

HE'S GOT TO FEND OFF A HURRICANE TOMORROW IN SANIBEL, JUST IN CASE.

COMMISSIONER KELLY.

UH, NOTHING. APOLOGIZE FOR COUGHING.

COMMISSIONER BOLE. SO I THINK, ECHO, I REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING WITH YOU AND AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT YOU HAD YOUR FEET ON THE GROUND, YOU KNOW, AND YOUR EXPERIENCE MEANT A LOT TO ME.

WHEN I WHEN I CALLED YOU ON THE PHONE OR I CAME IN AND THANK YOU FOR TALKING ME OFF THE LEDGE TWICE.

THANK YOU. CERTAINLY.

AND I'M GOING TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER TEN DAYS OR SO.

SO. OKAY, WE CAN PUT IT THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER.

RING. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH TO JOE GARRITY FOR ALL OF YOUR DEDICATION, YOUR DILIGENCE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT BEEN EASY.

IT'S NOT BEEN EASY FOR ME.

AND AND I KNOW IT'S NOT BEEN EASY FOR YOU.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU, MR. GARRITY, AND I REALLY.

I REALLY HOPE I CAN CALL ON YOU AT ANY TIME.

I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH MY PHONE NUMBER.

NOT THE CITY ONE, THOUGH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT ONE YOU'RE LEAVING BEHIND.

TO MR. KILLINGSWORTH.

COMMISSIONER WATERS? YEAH.

I HEARD ABOUT JOE FROM TWO GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE WHO WERE IN THIS ARENA IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS ACTUALLY TRUE AND MORE.

AND I JUST MEAN JOE, I, I CALLED JOE.

I DO THESE DRIVE BYS BY HIS OFFICE.

I CALL THEM. IT'S SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

AND WHENEVER I GET A BREAK AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON AND HE'S ALWAYS JUST BEEN SEEMINGLY JUST RECEPTIVE AND HAPPY AND HE'S VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE. HIS EXPERIENCE.

I JUST REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU THE WHOLE TIME AND I JUST I JUST WISH YOU AND YOUR WIFE, CARRIE, ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST A GREAT A GREAT FUTURE TOGETHER. YES, SIR.

SO I'LL ROUND IT OUT, I THINK FOR JOE.

I HOPE IT FELT LIKE COMING HOME WHEN HE CAME BACK TO ASSIST US IN THIS TRANSITION.

UM, FOR ME, I'LL ECHO WHAT I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER RING AND MAYBE A FEW OTHERS.

I LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM YOU, JOE.

THAT'S THAT WAS PART OF MY GOAL WHEN I WANTED, WHEN I ADVOCATED FOR YOU TO RETURN IS I, I KNEW THERE WERE THINGS I COULD LEARN FROM YOU.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I THANK YOU FOR THE DISPOSITION THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT IS SO BALANCED, EVEN ON THE OCCASIONAL DAY WHERE WE WERE WRINGING OUR HANDS OVER A LACK OF RESULTS OR PROGRESS ON KEY INITIATIVES.

BUT WE PREVAILED.

WE PERSISTED AND WE PREVAILED.

YOU WERE AT THE HELM ON THAT.

SO JUST AS COMMISSIONER BOLE SAID, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THIS CITY TWICE AND FOR COMING HOME AND AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, THIS

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ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO HIRE YOU AS CITY MANAGER AGAIN, I DON'T THINK.

NOW MAYBE ANOTHER MAYOR MIGHT, BUT I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY FROM A CERTAIN WOMAN IN JOE'S LIFE THAT THOU SHALT NOT DO THAT.

SO WE WILL PROBABLY NOT DO THAT.

BUT WE WISH YOU GODSPEED IN YOUR FAMILY, YOUR MARRIAGE, THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

AND AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

UH, IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS? HEARING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.