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ARE YOU READY? OKAY. WELCOME, RESIDENTS, VISITORS AND GUESTS.
IF YOU'LL JOIN US, PLEASE, WE'LL START WITH AN INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE.
SO, 22 YEARS AGO, 3000 PEOPLE FROM 93 COUNTRIES.
NOT COUNTING THE DEADLY CONCERNS OF ALL THOSE WHO WORKED ON THE PILE.
GOD OF HISTORY AND REMEMBRANCE.
WE REMEMBER WHEN THE TOWERS FELL, AND THE LIVES WERE LOST.
WE REMEMBER THE DUST AND THE SMOKE, THE DESPAIR AND THE GRIEF.
WE REMEMBER THAT SENSE OF VULNERABILITY AND SHOCK.
WE REMEMBER THE NUMBNESS THAT OVERWHELMED US AS WE WATCHED OUR SCREENS FOR HOURS AND HOURS, WAITING FOR AN EXPLANATION AND UNDERSTANDING THAT NEVER CAME.
WE REMEMBER GOD OF HOPE AND PRESENCE.
WE REMEMBER THE HEROES, THOSE WHO RUSHED TO HELP, WHO GUIDED THE WOUNDED DOWN INNUMERABLE FLIGHTS OF STAIRS, WHO ROSE TO OVERWHELM THOSE WHO HELD DEATH IN THEIR HANDS.
WE REMEMBER WORDS OF SUPPORT AND COMPASSION FROM NATIONS FAR AND WIDE.
WE SEE THE RIPPLES OF THAT TRAGIC DAY CONTINUE TO IMPACT OUR WORLD 22 YEARS LATER.
WE GRIEVE WITH ALLIES TODAY AS OUR ALLIES GRIEVE WITH US 22 YEARS AGO.
AND TOGETHER, WE WONDER IF THEY WILL EVER BE AN END TO VIOLENCE, TO WAR, TO DEATH.
WE GRIEVE FOR OUR WORLD'S INABILITY TO LEARN THE THINGS THAT LEAD TO PEACE.
WE CALL TO YOU NOW IN OUR REMEMBRANCE, GOD OF JUSTICE AND PEACE GIVE US A WILL TO TRULY PRAY THAT YOUR KINGDOM MAY COME ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
ON THIS DAY OF SOLEMN REMEMBRANCE, MAY WE HONOR THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST IN THIS TRAGIC ACT.
MAY WE GIVE THANKS FOR THOSE WHO SERVED AND SAVED, RENDERED AID AND ASSISTANCE? MAY WE GIVE COMFORT TO THOSE WHO LIVE WITH LOSS? MAY WE SEEK JUSTICE AND PEACE WHERE IT IS WITHIN OUR ABILITY AND RELY ON YOU WHEN THE ABILITY ESCAPES US.
ON THIS DAY OF SOLEMN REMEMBRANCE, MAY WE BUILD WHAT HAS BEEN TORN DOWN? MAY WE MEND WHAT HAS BEEN BROKEN? MAY WE LIVE YOUR LOVE WHEN HATE SEEMS TO REIGN? MAY WE BEAR WITNESS TO THE CAUSE OF PEACE? AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
DONNA, CAN WE? THANK YOU, DONNA.
AND I JUST WANT TO WELCOME, KEVIN HOGENCAMP TO THE CHAIR ADJACENT TO ME AS INTERIM CITY MANAGER.
THANK YOU FOR BEING IN THAT CHAIR.
WE NEED YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU YOUR THING.
JOE, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND STEP DOWN NOW.
YOU'VE DONE YOUR TIME, BUT I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING.
OKAY. THE FIRST THING IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.
[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
SO, LET'S SEE.WE HAVE ITEM ONE A, WE HAVE MINUTES DATED THREE 2023 UH, SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION DRAFT MINUTES COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW? ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? NOT THE MINUTES STAND IS PRESENTED.
THE NEXT SERIES OF MINUTES WAS MAY 8TH, 2023.
CITY COMMISSION DRAFT MINUTES.
ANY CORRECTIONS THERE? HEARING NONE. THE MINUTES STAND AS SUBMITTED.
AND FINALLY, THE MINUTES OF EIGHT 723.
SPECIAL CALLED MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
ANY CHANGES? DURING UNDERSTAND AS WELL.
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THANK YOU.NEXT IS ITEM 1.B APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON JULY 29TH.
OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE SEPARATE IT.
BUT ANYWAYS, THE DATED SEVEN 2923 SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
ANY CORRECTIONS ON THOSE MINUTES? OKAY. HEARING NONE, THEY STAND AS AS PRESENTED.
THE NEXT SEGMENT IS TWO A, WHICH IS WELL, ACTUALLY TWO COURTESY OF THE FLOOR.
[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]
AND SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF VISITORS.YOU'RE GOING TO BE FIRST. BUT HANG ON.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OBSERVE.
MR. HARRELL, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TODAY.
IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, YOU'RE NOT UP YET.
I'M JUST TRYING TO LET YOU KNOW YOU GOT FIVE MINUTES.
OKAY. BUT I DO WANT TO START OFF WITH A PROCLAMATION.
AND THIS PROCLAMATION I'LL BE PRESENTING TO TO LESLIE MAY FROM THE DA.
BUT THIS IS IT'S A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND RECOGNITION OF CONSTITUTION WEEK, WHEREAS SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2023, MARKS THE 236TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE DRAFTING OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION.
AND. WHEREAS, IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO ACCORD OFFICIAL RECOGNITION TO THIS MAGNIFICENT DOCUMENT AND IT'S MEMORABLE ANNIVERSARY AND TO THE PATRIOTIC CELEBRATIONS WHICH WILL COMMEMORATE THE OCCASION.
AND. WHEREAS, PUBLIC LAW 915 GUARANTEES THE ISSUING OF PROCLAMATION EACH YEAR BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DESIGNATING SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 23RD 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.
CURTIS FORD, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 23RD, 2023 AS CONSTITUTION WEEK.
AND I ASK OUR CITIZENS TO REAFFIRM THE IDEALS THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION HAD IN 1787 BY VIGILANTLY PROTECTING THE FREEDOMS GUARANTEED TO US THROUGH THIS GUARDIAN OF OUR LIBERTIES, REMEMBERING THAT LOST RIGHTS MAY NEVER BE REGAINED IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS 11TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023.
AND I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS DIRECTLY TO LESLIE.
WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL TITLE OF REGENT? SO, IS THIS AT ALL A MEETING? APPEARANCE AS A MEMBER OF OUR CHAPTER IS AWARE OF IT.
CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ROLE.
OKAY. NOW FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
DONNA, DO WE HAVE SOME SPEAKERS HAVE ONE MAYOR.
HEY, MR. HAROLD, PLEASE COME UP.
YES, IT WAS HIM I WANTED TO SAY IT TO.
GOOD EVENING I'M BRINKLEY HERALD TO 66 STREET.
YES, TODAY IS PATRIOTS DAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, AS COMMISSIONER KELLY POINTED OUT, 22 YEARS TODAY.
22 YEARS AGO TODAY, 19 AL QAEDA LINKED TERRORISTS HIJACKED FOUR AIRCRAFT, SLAMMING THEM INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTERS, THE PENTAGON AND A FOURTH ONE INTO A FIELD IN PENNSYLVANIA.
THAT'S ALL MY KIDS HAVE KNOWN SINCE 911 AS THEY WERE TWO AND FIVE AT THE TIME.
I HOPE THEY NEVER FORGET PATRIOT'S DAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH.
UM, I ONLY WENT TO IRAQ TWICE.
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AND MY DAUGHTER SERVES RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER BE LOST ON THE HAROLD FAMILY.SO KIND OF LIKE KENNEDY, EVERYBODY REMEMBERS WHERE THEY WERE.
AVIANO, ITALY. AVIANO AIR BASE, ITALY, I SHOULD SAY.
AND THEN LATER AT RAMSTEIN AIR BASE IN GERMANY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, WE'VE BEEN KNEE DEEP IN IT.
I WILL. WITHOUT MENTIONING ANYTHING ELSE THERE, I'LL GO TO THE BUDGET.
ALL OF Y'ALL HAVE MY EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT SUNDAY ABOUT MIDDAY.
IF YOU READ IT ONCE, PLEASE READ IT 2 OR 3 MORE TIMES BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS YEAR OR I'M SORRY, IN THE BUDGET THAT'S BEING DEBATED, THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT WE'RE IN AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET FOR FY 22, FY 23 AND NOW FY 24, THERE HAVE BEEN RECORD INCREASES IN OTHER TAX REVENUES, RECORD INCREASES, HALF CENT SALES SURCHARGE TAX, GASOLINE TAX TAXES, TAXES THAT REBATES BACK TO US, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE NUMBERS KEEP GOING UP AND UP AND THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE TENTATIVE BUDGET AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S 55 MILLION OR WHETHER OR NOT IT'S 60 MILLION.
THE ACCOUNTING SPREADSHEETS APPEAR TO SHOW THAT AT $60 MILLION IN REVENUE LAST YEAR.
SO THAT'S $4 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
IF THOSE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT AND I THINK THEY ARE OF OTHER TAXES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE CITY.
IT'S TIME TO GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS A BIT OF A BREAK.
WE CAN'T HELP IT THAT OUR PROPERTIES ARE.
ESCALATING IN VALUE HAND OVER FIST.
SO THOSE ESCALATED PROPERTY VALUES DON'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME BECAUSE I NEVER GOING ANYWHERE.
Y'ALL MIGHT WANT ME TO SOMETIMES, BUT I'M NOT EVER GOING ANYWHERE FROM MY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD TO PUT ON A NEW ROOF SO THAT I COULD GET MY HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE DOWN.
SOME PEOPLE ARE HAVING GREAT INCREASES IN FLOOD INSURANCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK.
I HOPE THAT YOU I HOPE THAT KEVIN HOGENCAMP CAN FIND ANOTHER 3 OR $400,000 IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET THE WAY JOE GIRARDI DID BEFORE THE NEW BEFORE THE TENTATIVE BUDGET WAS EVEN PUT TOGETHER, HE FOUND 320,000 POPPED IT UP ON A SLIDE.
I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GREAT.
GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS A BIT OF A A BIT OF A BREAK.
AND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF Y'ALL.
Y'ALL ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK, TOO.
SO PLEASE ATTEMPT TO GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT LATER ON IN THIS MEETING.
THERE'S BOTH A RESOLUTION AND AN ORDINANCE ABOUT SOME JUSTICE DEPARTMENT FUNDING.
AND TO SPEND $53,000 ON LICENSE PLATE READERS.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM THAT HE NEEDS TO TELL Y'ALL HIS PLAN.
HE NEEDS FOUR NEW CARS A YEAR.
PLEASE REALLOCATE THAT MONEY RATHER THAN LICENSE PLATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. HAROLD. I HAVE, MAYOR.
OKAY. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT SIGNED IN? OKAY, THEN WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE.
PARDON? WEDNESDAY? YES, WEDNESDAY.
OKAY. ITEM THREE IS CITY MANAGER REPORTS.
[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. HOGENCAMP. WELL, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU ACCEPT THE 90 DAY CALENDAR BEFORE DOING SO.I'D LIKE TO MENTION A FEW THINGS ON.
IT IS OUR TOWN HALL MEETING ON OCTOBER 14TH.
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PRELIMINARY PASSAGE OF THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE.PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT SOME THINGS NOT ON THERE ON NOON IS THE MONTHLY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LUNCHEON.
IF ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WE HAVE ONE OF THE TICKETS WAS JUST TAKEN.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO, THAT'S THE CHAMBER LUNCH.
THIS IS AT THE CASA MARINA AND JAX BEACH AT NOON THIS THURSDAY AND THURSDAY.
I'M SORRY. YEAH. I REPRESENT THE CITY ON THE BOARD AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF TICKETS.
FRIDAY IS OUR COMMUNITY BLOOD DRIVE FROM NOON TO FIVE HERE AT CITY HALL.
AND SOME OF THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE MORE FUN THAN THAT.
SUNDAY IS ACOUSTIC NIGHT AT BALL PARK FROM 6 TO 8.
THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THE SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING COMMITTEE MEETS AGAIN.
AND FINALLY, ON SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, IT'S A FALL FESTIVAL AT DONNER PARK FROM 10 TO 1.
SO NOW I'M ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT THE 90-DAY CALENDAR.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? IT'S PASSED. THANK YOU.
GREAT. I'LL CONTINUE UNTIL YOU ASK ME NOT TO.
IT'S A SILVER FLC UNIVERSITY CERTIFICATE FOR ELECTED MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS.
IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK, DEDICATION AND TIME AND PRESUMABLY TRAVEL AND JUST KIND OF MY M.O.
TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHEN YOUR COLLEAGUES REACH AN ACHIEVEMENT, JUST ASSIST.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD SOURCE OF EDUCATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN OFFICE FOR VERY LONG AND SOMETIMES IT'S LIKE A FIRE HOSE AND THEY THEY'RE PREPARED TO HELP US WITH THAT. SO.
WELL, I FOR ONE, WANT TO SAY I'M VERY IMPRESSED.
THIS IS AN EDUCATOR FOR GETTING MORE EDUCATION.
WELL DONE. WE APPRECIATE THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GOT ITEM THREE.
ALL RIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER.
UM, I'VE TODAY SENT A MEMO GIVING YOU THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE REPORT ON ADELIA.
ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST CRITICAL RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO PROTECT THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR RESIDENTS BY TAKING THE NECESSARY STEPS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER.
EVENTS SUCH AS HURRICANES, THE CITY CAN HELP MINIMIZE DAMAGE AND LOSS OF LIFE.
AND IN THIS CASE, AS IT TURNS OUT, ADELIA PROVED TO BE ANOTHER INVALUABLE TRAINING EXERCISE FOR US.
AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO LET'S KEEP OUR GUARDS UP.
HURRICANE SEASON IS REALLY JUST WE'RE JUST GETTING INTO IT REALLY GOOD.
SO AS THE STORM APPROACHED, WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE AGENCY'S COUNTYWIDE AND BEYOND, CHIEF GUALILLO, WHO I THINK IS COMING TONIGHT IN HOPES SO BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT JAG GRANT.
A DISREGARD THE TEXT I JUST SENT YOU, BY THE WAY.
SO? SO CHIEF AND HIS COMMAND STAFF COORDINATED WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
PUBLIC ADVISORIES WERE ISSUED ABOUT THE UPCOMING STORM.
THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT PERFORMED THEIR USUAL STORM MANAGEMENT MITIGATION PROTOCOL.
THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER WAS ACTIVATED.
AND SO BY ALL ACCOUNTS, WE WE KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK.
IN THIS EXERCISE, WE LEARNED SOME THINGS.
AND THERE'S A COMPLETE REPORT IN YOUR EMAILS THAT WERE PUBLISHING ON THE WEBSITE.
AND I'LL ENCOURAGE ANY RESIDENTS WHO HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WANTS THAT REPORT TO REACH OUT TO ME.
SO, THAT TOPIC HAS COME UP THAT COMMITTEES' MEETINGS ARE NOT LIVE STREAMED.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE STREAM THEM, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE WHAT IT COST.
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IT'S $175 PER MEETING.THAT IS, IF OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR WE MEET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD FOR MEETINGS AND THAT'S 100 MEETINGS PER YEAR THAT WE THAT WE VIDEO RECORD AND STREAM. AND SO, IT'S AS MUCH OF A AS A $175 A MEETING COST IF Y'ALL OPT TO ADD THAT MEETING TO THE LIST OF MEETINGS AND WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER RECORDED SIX RIGHT NOW I'M AFRAID I DIDN'T DESCRIBE THAT.
WELL WE HAVE A CONTRACT AND IT'S ABOUT $30,000 A YEAR AND WE RECORD WE HAVE 100 MEETINGS.
SO IT MAY OR MAY NOT COST $175 A MEETING, DEPENDING ON WHETHER WE MEET THAT 100 MEETING THRESHOLD.
OTHERWISE WITH WITH THE MEETINGS WE.
OKAY, SO IF WE GO OVER 100 MEETINGS, THEN WHAT DO THEY CHARGE US? 175 PER MEETING.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE EVERY INCENTIVE TO SPEND THE 100 MEETINGS BECAUSE THAT'S A FIXED CONTRACT.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU ADVISE US AT THE NEXT MEETING WHAT KIND OF WHAT YOU THINK WE HAVE AS FAR AS LATITUDE ON THAT? MEANING IF WE TAKE WE'RE ALMOST TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
SO IF WE TAKE ALL THE OTHER LIVE STREAM MEETINGS AND ADD THEM UP, ARE WE PUSHING THAT HUNDRED OR NOT? YES, WE'RE PUSHING IT.
FOR EXAMPLE, OVER THE LAST YEAR, I THINK THE TOTAL WAS 103.
YOU KNOW, I SUPPOSE IT COULD BE 85 ONE YEAR AND 115 ANOTHER.
YES. SO, WE GOT THAT STOP PEOPLE AND THE CHARTER PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S GOING TO RAISE OUR COUNT TOO.
SO HOW OFTEN DOES THE BOARD REVIEW MEMBER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEET MONTHLY? OKAY. ONCE A MONTH. OH, NO.
WE MEET AN AVERAGE OF 4 TO 5 TIMES A YEAR.
SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. AND WE HAVE TO COMMISSIONER KELLY'S POINT, WE HAVE ADDED TWO EXTRA BOARDS, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE WHAT NUMBER WE'RE AT, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO CAP OFF.
YOU THINK, KEVIN? YEAH, IT'S JUST IT'S REALLY JUST JUST A GUESS, RIGHT? YOU WOULD DELIBERATELY BE MAKING A DECISION TO TO, TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
175 A MEETING UNLESS WE'RE FORTUNATE WHERE WE DON'T CROSS 100 MEETING THRESHOLD.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU ALL JUST LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO ON THAT TOPIC, OKAY? OKAY. MY NEXT REPORT IS ABOUT YOUR DRIVE.
WE RECEIVED IT TODAY, PROCESS WISE.
THE PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS UNDERWAY.
WE DON'T HAVE A DATE FOR THE FINAL REPORT YET, BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT SOON.
AND WE DID GET A REPORT FROM THE FIRM PERFORMING THE ASSESSMENT THAT THEY'RE ALMOST DONE WITH IT.
AND THUS FAR, THEY HAVE NOT FOUND ANY RED FLAGS IN THE RECORDS SO FAR ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
WE ARE WORKING ON A MORE DETAILED COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
JUST TO REMIND YOU, JOE GARRITY SIGNED THE CONTRACT ON AUGUST 28TH.
WE HAVE 45 DAYS FOR OUR DUE DILIGENCE, AND THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER THE 11TH.
SO WE INTEND TO PRESENT OUR FINDINGS TO THE COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 9TH.
YOUR OCTOBER 9TH MEETING FOR A DECISION.
BUT I WANT TO SEGWAY OFF THAT AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CLEAR.
YOU HAVE THE OPTION ON THAT MEETING OF, WHAT, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER 9TH MEAN? OCTOBER 9TH, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF OF UNDOING THIS PURCHASE IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A THE GREAT WAY TO HAVE HANDLED THIS IS WE'RE IN THE QUEUE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY FINDINGS ON THAT PHASE ONE.
MR. HOGENCAMP, DO YOU KNOW IF MR. SWANN HAS HAD A CHANCE TO WALK THE PROPERTY AND SURVEY THE TREES, AT LEAST VISUALLY? HE IS HE HAS HE'S QUITE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY AND THE AND THE IMPLICATIONS OF MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE TREES THAT ARE THERE AND I'D LIKE IF YOU'D LIKE I'LL GET HIM AFTER THIS MEETING.
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WE'LL ISSUE A MEMO AND GIVE YOU A REPORT IF YOU'D LIKE ON, ON ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.THANK YOU. AND IS THERE ANY INTEREST BY THE COMMISSIONERS TO ACTUALLY GO ON A SHORT FIELD TRIP TO THE SITE AND WALK IT? AROUND. RIDE MY BIKE OVER THERE.
THREE TIMES. YEAH. BE CAREFUL.
TAKE A FLARE GUN. YOU COULD GET LOST IN THE THICKET.
IT'S A LOT OF A LOT OF BAMBOO IN THERE, BUT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND I'LL JUST SAY IT FOR THE RECORD.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT TO FIND A 400-YEAR-OLD HERITAGE OAK TREE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DIG A RETENTION POND BECAUSE THAT'S A PROBLEM.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. HOGENCAMP. LET'S SEE, MAY I ADD JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA REALLY QUICKLY.
THANK YOU. I'M FINALLY FOLLOWING UP WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY, WHO ASKED ABOUT THE THE NET SAVINGS RESULTING FROM THE CITY DOING BUSINESS WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO TAKE OVER OUR AFTER SCHOOL AND SUMMER PROGRAMING.
THE ANNUAL NET SAVINGS IS CONSERVATIVELY $180,000 A YEAR.
AND I THINK THAT THAT NUMBER IS CONSERVATIVE AS FAR AS THAT ANNUAL SAVINGS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KELLY COMMISSIONER BOLE MR. HARRAL FOR ON THIS SOMBER DAY OF REMEMBRANCE FOR YOUR SERVICE TO MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COUNTRY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]
REPORTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS.SO, COMMISSIONER KELLY, I PROMISE I'M NOT DUPLICATING ANYTHING THAT MR. HARRELL SAID. SO WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THE BUDGET FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS NOW, AND IN ONLY TWO DAYS WE'RE EXPECTED TO VOTE FOR IT UPON THE FIRST READING.
HOWEVER, A WEEK AND A HALF, MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO, WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL NOTIFYING US THAT THE BLUE COLLAR UNION UNION HAD REJECTED OUR OFFERED CONTRACT.
AND TODAY, AS FAR AS WE KNOW OR I KNOW, THERE'S BEEN NO MOVEMENT TOWARD RECONCILIATION.
SO THEREFORE, WE HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT OUR PERSONNEL COSTS ARE GOING TO BE.
WE ALWAYS PRAISE THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE LIKE TO THINK OF THEM AS A FAMILY.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THEY ARE ONLY ASKING FOR A MODEST INCREASE OVER THE 4% THAT WE OFFERED.
SO, I CANNOT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE VOTE FOR A STRAW MAN BUDGET SIMPLY TO COMPLY WITH THE TIMELINE.
SO, I NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S UP TO US TO.
IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WE WANT TO OFFER THEM THIS TIME AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND THE EXTRA MONEY? BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY STRETCHED THE BUDGET QUITE A BIT.
SO LET'S COULD SOMEONE PLEASE BRIEF ME ON WHERE WE STAND WITH THAT? WELL, WE COULD ASK KATHY VARIAN.
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE ANYTHING NEW ON THE DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE.
DIRECTOR, I DO HAVE SOME FIGURES THAT BRITTANY CAME UP WITH TODAY ANTICIPATING POTENTIAL QUESTIONS.
WELL, IS THERE ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE JUST HEARD THAT THAT WE'RE AT A STALEMATE ON THE NEGOTIATIONS? WE ARE. WE HAVE A MEETING IN THE MORNING AT 10:00 IN THE MORNING.
AND AT THAT POINT, UM, I EXPECT THAT THEY WILL DECLARE AN IMPASSE.
UM, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, THEY ARE THEY ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR 6%.
I THINK THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE FIVE.
OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR DID COME UP WITH SOME BUDGET FIGURES.
THE IMPACT OF THE BUDGET IF WE DID A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION TO JUST REFRESH MY MEMORY.
IN THE BUDGET RATIFIED TWO YEARS AGO.
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TWO. I'M SORRY.THE BUDGET THAT WE ARE FINISHING NOW THAT WE RATIFIED A YEAR AGO.
HOW MUCH OF AN INCREASE DID WE PUT IN THAT BUDGET AND WAS IT THE SAME FOR THE UNION AS IT WAS FOR OUR REGULAR EMPLOYEES? IT WAS THE SAME.
OKAY. AND THEN WE HAD THE MID-CYCLE.
YES. ACTUALLY, I NEED TO GO BACK TO BUDGET CYCLES AGO.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT? 12%. SO WE HAD FIVE PLUS 12.
AND THEN WE HAD THE NEXT APPROVED SALARY INCREASE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE NOW FINISHING THIS YEAR WITH.
TWO CYCLES AGO, IT WAS 3% FOR GENERAL EMPLOYEES, 4% FOR THE UNION.
SO THE UNION GOT MORE IN THAT EXAMPLE, WHICH WAS FOUR PLUS 12 MID-CYCLE.
THAT'S 21% INCREASE IN 361 DAYS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ON HOW THAT WORKS OUT.
366 SO IN A YEAR'S TIME, WE'RE OVER 20%.
I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED THAT MY REGULAR EMPLOYEES GET A 5% RAISE, BUT THE UNION GETS A HIGHER RAISE FOR WHY THEY DIDN'T GET SHORTCHANGED IN THE PREVIOUS RAISES.
BUT I WOULD NOT PAY UP ON THE ON THE SIX.
AND THEN WE OFFERED OR MR. GARRITY OFFERED 4%.
AND THEN IT WAS A 24 TO 1 VOTE DOWN THAT.
THINK THEY WOULD ACCEPT FIVE? BUT AGAIN, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE PAYING TO OUR EMPLOYEES WE'RE PAYING FOR? RIGHT NOW, THE BUDGET HAS 4%.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OR FOR EVERYONE THAT IS NOT ON A STEP PLAN OR.
YEAH, SO I'LL ONLY MAKE THIS FINAL POINT AND THEN I'LL STAND ASIDE.
NEVER IN MY HISTORY HAVE I SEEN THAT.
AND YET I WAS HERE LAST YEAR WHEN THAT OFF CYCLE INCREASE, 12% WAS MADE AND I ACTUALLY ACCEPTED AND WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT BECAUSE IT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY YEAR, AN EXTRAORDINARY PERIOD OF TIME COMING OUT OF COVID AND THE INFLATION AND SO ON.
AND BY THE WAY, THE UNION CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO STRIKE ON THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD STICK WITH THAT.
IT'S AN INPUT. I KNOW A FEW OF US VOTED FOR THAT.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS AGGRESSIVE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD FOR THE CITY.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS YEARS IN ADVANCE BID CONTRACTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT 4% FOR THEIR WORKERS.
JUST TO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S THEIR PROJECTION.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.
I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE MAYOR.
SO TO FULLY ANSWER COMMISSIONER KELLY ON WHAT TO DO, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THAT FINALIZED, WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS 4%. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT SUGGEST THAT WE RAISE IT TO TO COVER THE POSSIBILITY.
I WOULD SIMPLY SAY THAT WE PASS WE WORK ON ANY OTHER ASPECTS OF THE BUDGET AND PASS THE BUDGET ON THE FIRST READING, AT LEAST THIS WEDNESDAY BASED ON THE 4% AND DEAL WITH IT LATER.
IF WE DECIDE TO BACK DOWN ON ON THE REQUEST BY THE UNION.
I AGREE TOTALLY. I DON'T I MEAN, IF JOE SAID FOR WHAT OUR EMPLOYEES GET, THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T WANT TO GO ABOVE FOUR.
SO, THERE'S ONE POINT THAT I'M NOT SURE I PROVIDE INFORMATION TO JOE ON WHAT OTHERS DO.
GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO SAY IT IF YOU DIDN'T.
OKAY. THE INFORMATION I WAS GIVEN WAS ON NEPTUNE BEACH AND JAX BEACH.
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ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH.OKAY. THEY WERE GIVING 3% AND 3.5%.
I FELT 4% WERE AHEAD OF THE GAME.
MY JOB, OF COURSE, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO HIRE FOLKS.
AND WE FINALLY GOT UP TO SPEED AND WE'RE SET.
I JUST FOUND OUT LAST WEEK THAT THEY'RE 3% AND 3.5% ARE ON TOP OF AN EVALUATION RAISE THAT THEY GIVE, WHICH IS 2 TO 3%. SO THAT DOES KNOCK US OUT A LITTLE BIT.
SO HOW MUCH IS THAT? YOU KNOW THAT MCDONALD'S IS PAYING YOU? 15. SO WHAT ARE WE PAYING OUR LOWEST EMPLOYEES? 1547. $15 AND 47.
SO, THE GUY IS OUT DIGGING DITCHES IN THE SUN AND THE RAIN ARE PAYING ARE MAKING $0.47 MORE THAN THE GUY AT THE DRIVE THRU AT MCDONALD'S. BRING THE PAY SCALE WITH ME, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT.
WHAT? AND THEY'RE STARTING STARTING THE LOWEST PAID ARE STARTING AT THAT RATE.
AND KATHY SAYING THAT THAT PARTICULAR JOB THAT YOU JUST CITED, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY 1547.
RIGHT. SO WHAT DO WE PAY 1547 FOR? CASHIERS ARE ONE OF THE LOWEST PAID ARE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ACTUALLY ARE IN THAT PAY CLASSIFICATION.
I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T BRING IT WITH ME.
MY LISTENING TO THE 21% THAT MAYOR YOU WERE MENTIONING, THAT WAS TO BRING US UP TO PAR, WASN'T IT? AND IT WAS ACROSS THE BOARD, EVERYONE.
YEAH. JUST TO CONFIRM WHAT YOU JUST SAID, IT WAS MORE THAN BRINGING US TO PAR.
SO IT WAS WELL ABOVE PAR, IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THAT.
RIGHT. AND SO WHEN I SHOOK MY HEAD.
YES. WHEN ON PAR, I MEANT IN COMPARISON WITH OUR SISTER CITIES.
THE MAYOR IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT THAT WE DID GET AGGRESSIVE AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, MINIMUM $15 AN HOUR DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL 2026.
JACKS BEACH AND NEPTUNE BEACH.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE OFFERING MORE, THAT'S A LOT OF TIMES WE LOSE OUR GOOD APPLICANTS.
DO YOU FIND THAT THE LOWER PAID WORKING POSITIONS ARE THE HARDER ONES TO FILL? UH, IT DEPENDS.
I THINK ABOUT WITH ABPD AND WITH CHIEF GUALILLO, WHO IS TRYING TO HIRE NEW OFFICERS, AND HE'S TRYING TO KEEP UP TO PAR WITH NEPTUNE BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, JACKS BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, JSO.
AND SO I BELIEVE THEIR COLA IS 5%.
AND ACROSS THE BOARD NATIONWIDE, IT'S HARD TO HIRE POLICE OFFICERS.
BUT I'VE TAKEN THEM OUT OF MY COMPARISONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON A STEP PLAN.
THEY DID GET A COST OF LIVING INCREASE TO THEIR STEP PLANS, AND THEN THEIR FOLKS MOVED UP TO A DIFFERENT TO ANOTHER STEP. SO THEIR 5%.
IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, ACTUALLY.
I WENT THROUGH ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES AND FIGURED OUT THEIR PERCENTAGE RAISES.
AND IT IS FOR ATTRITION A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LOWER PAID POSITIONS.
ARE WE HAVING A HARD TIME KEEPING THEM? ARE WE HAVING A HARD TIME HIRING THEM? IS THAT AN AREA OF CONCERN IN CERTAIN AREAS? YES. DONNA HAS HAD A POSITION.
HERS IS NOT ONE OF THE LOWER PAID.
BUT BLESS HER HEART, SHE IS NOT HAVING VERY GOOD LUCK.
BUT GENERALLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE FULL.
YOU KNOW, DONNA'S POSITION IS OPEN, BUT WE JUST HIRED A NEW PARK RANGER, AND
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WE ARE FULL OTHER THAN POLICE OFFICERS.BUT. BUT THAT I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO BEING.
TO OFFERING COMPARABLE SALARIES.
WHERE DO WE STAND ON THE CONVERSATION OF GIVING THE LOWER PAID EMPLOYEES MORE OF A RAISE THAN THE.
THEN THE UPPER THE UPPER PAGE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MY OFFICE.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION, OKAY? THAT PERSON FOR 30 YEARS AT THE TOP OF THAT JOB DESCRIPTION.
AND SO UNLESS THEY GET OUT OF THAT JOB DESCRIPTION, GO TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT THE LOWER PAID, WE HAVE A LOT MORE ROOM TO GO UP WITH THEM AND GET THEM MORE.
MAY I RESPOND TO THAT, STAN, WITH THAT? YEAH, PLEASE. THAT'S JUST CERTAINLY DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST SIX WEEKS THAT HAS COME UP AND THAT IS AND MR. KILLINGSWORTH'S INBOX TO TO GET HIM TO ASK HIM TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE ASKED FOR THAT.
SO ARE WE SAYING COLLECTIVELY THAT WE'RE NOT WILLING TO GIVE THEM 1%? YOU DON'T FOLD BEFORE THE MEETING.
I MEAN, THE MEETING'S TOMORROW, CORRECT? THE MORNING YOU SAID THE MEETING'S FOR THE UNION IS TOMORROW, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO, YOUR MOTION IS TO.
ARE YOU TRYING TO MOVE 1% BEFORE THE MEETING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? WELL, NOTHING.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WE. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN MAKE A DECISION NOW ABOUT WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE, BUT IF THEY WILL AGREE TO 5%, ARE WE NOT WILLING TO GIVE THEM 1% RAISE? NO. NO.
HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST US? IF IT WAS JUST FOR THE BLUE COLLAR UNION, IT WOULD BE $36,150 IF IT WAS FOR CITYWIDE.
FOR THOSE NOT ON A STEP PLAN, IT WOULD BE $43,322.
I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS WE LISTEN TO SOMEBODY RECENTLY WHO SPOKE TO THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND IT'S A CHALLENGE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
MANY, MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES LIVE OFF THE ISLAND ALREADY AND IT'S NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.
I DON'T THINK GIVING A DOLLAR RAISE IS GOING TO CLOSE THAT GAP.
AND SINCE I WAS THERE AND CREATED THOSE MATRICES, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SKILLED NEED TO GO BACK AND GAIN SKILLS IF THEY WANT TO RAISE THEIR SALARY OR HAVE A SPOUSE WITH A SECOND INCOME OR WORK A SECOND JOB.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS COMMISSION HERE WILL BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT.
AND BUT I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS ON A SOUR NOTE.
BUT THE ANSWER IS I WOULD NOT CHANGE AND GIVE THEM A DOLLAR MORE THAN I WOULD GIVE OUR REGULAR RANK AND FILE EMPLOYEES IF WE'RE GOOD GIVING $4 OR 4% TO OUR RANK AND FILE, THEN WE SHOULD BE GOOD DOING THE 4% WITH THE UNION.
OH, GO AHEAD. WHAT'S THE COLA BEFORE? HAS IT ALWAYS BEEN 4%? NO, THERE'S NO COLA.
OH, SO IT USED TO BE THAT WE WOULD GIVE A PERCENTAGE OF MIDPOINT AND THAT AFFECTED THE HIGHER PAID AND THE LOWER PAID DIFFERENTLY, AND THEN WE WOULD INCREASE AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED A MERIT RAISE AND THEN WE WOULD INCREASE THE PAY SCALE 1%, AND THAT WAS CONSIDERED A COST OF LIVING.
IT'S NOT ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS.
IT'S BEEN ACROSS THE BOARD, SO IT'S CONSIDERED A COST OF LIVING.
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MOST OF THESE PEOPLE WORK WITH YOU OR MANY OF THEM.WHAT DO YOU THINK? MAY I. MAY I RESPOND? AND BEFORE HE DOES? SURE. THROUGH THE MAYOR.
FRANKLY, BEING PUT ON THE SPOT LIKE THIS, I KNOW I WOULD ENCOURAGE HIM TO CHECK WITH THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE REPRESENTING THE CITY MANAGER IN A DISCUSSION LIKE THAT.
HAVING SAID THAT, CERTAINLY HE'S WELCOME TO COME UP.
BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT HE'S BEING PUT ON THE SPOT.
I'M JUST THINKING HIS EARS CLOSER TO THE GROUND THAN MINE.
IT IS JUST IN THE BEST SCENARIO.
I WASN'T ASKING YOU NOT TO CALL HIM UP.
THE BODY LANGUAGE SAYS I'M NOT LEAVING.
SO, KEVIN, TOMORROW'S MEETING.
CATHY AND KEVIN WILL INCLUDE THE TWO OF YOU AND THE UNION.
OKAY. AND ARE YOU THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO SAY.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS ALL AN ASSUMPTION, PUTTING THE HORSE BEFORE OR THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TONIGHT.
BUT ARE YOU THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR 5%? I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO STICK TO THEIR GUNS.
CONSIDERING NOW, OBVIOUSLY, IT ALL HAS TO BE DONE IN PUBLIC.
SO I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH ANYONE, BUT THE VOTE 25 TO 1 WAS INDICATIVE.
I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO STICK TO THEIR GUNS.
I'M SURE THEY'RE LISTENING TONIGHT.
IF THERE'S NO MOVEMENT TONIGHT, THEN TOMORROW WE'LL PROBABLY DISCUSS THE IMPASSE PROCEDURES.
AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD FOR THAT WITH THAT.
IF WE'RE GOOD, THEN THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
THANK YOU. MAYBE YOU SHOULD BRING DONUTS TO THE MEETING.
COMMISSIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT? I DO HAVE A COUPLE MORE.
UM, SCOTT, THANK YOU FOR DOWN THE ROAD.
I'M SO SORRY I MISSED YOUR RIBBON CUTTING, AND IT WAS WEIRD.
UM, I WANTED TO SEE HOW THE PENSION BOARD IS FEELING ABOUT THE DOING A COLA.
GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. YEAH, I HAVE A MEETING COMING UP.
SO THOUGHT THAT AND I'VE BEEN THERE.
SO YOU HAVEN'T THE SALON SPEAKER CEILING SEALER SERIES IS AWESOME.
SHE HAS GOT ALL KINDS OF REALLY GOOD SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS COMING TO TALK TO US.
THEY'RE NOT HEMMING AND HAWING.
THEY KNOW THEIR STUFF AND THEY'RE WILLING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT HOW THEIR SUBJECT MATTER WOULD AFFECT ATLANTIC BEACH. SO IF YOU SEE SARAH BOREN, JUST JUST GIVE HER A BUY HER A DRINK BECAUSE SHE'S DONE REALLY WELL BY US.
I KNOW THAT WAS AWKWARD WHEN I DISCOURAGED SCOTT FROM COMING UP HERE.
YOU KNOW, WE RESPECTFULLY FOLLOW THE POLICY DIRECTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE THAT THERE ARE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON. AND AND I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE.
IT'S STILL THE COMMISSION'S DECISION WHETHER TO ASK US QUESTIONS AS YOU SEE FIT.
THANK YOU. LET ME JUST SAY ONE THING ABOUT THAT AS WELL, COMING FROM JACKSONVILLE.
IT'S VERY PRESCRIBED IN THE STATUTE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WHICH WOULD IN THIS CASE BE.
SO JUST FYI, KEEP IT IN THE SHADE BEFORE.
OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
COMMISSIONER BOLE. YEAH, A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.
TOMORROW NIGHT IS BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY MEETING.
SO ANY INPUT BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT.
AND I'VE GOT I'VE GOT THE SLIDES.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME BUILDINGS AND SOME OTHER THINGS OVER THERE.
SO ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN VOLUNTEERING, IT'S A LOT OF FUN.
THAT'S IN APRIL. YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT.
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COMMITTEES, ETCETERA, ETCETERA.SO I'M CALLING OUT FOR VOLUNTEERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO INPUT ON THAT.
AND I PLAN ON WRITING A RESOLUTION KIND OF OUTLINING MORE OF A PRESCRIPTIVE WAY TO GO ABOUT THAT AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT, I'M SURE, IN THE FUTURE AS WE GO THROUGH. UM, ONE THING AS WE TALK ABOUT UNION, ET CETERA, I'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE HERE, BUT ONE THING MAYBE CUT TO THE CHASE HERE IS IN POKER, YOU DON'T PUT YOUR CARDS OUT ON THE TABLE UNTIL IT'S TIME.
COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS ARE ESPECIALLY CHALLENGING.
LABOR THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY HAS STATISTICS, LABOR STATISTICS WHERE IT'S CALLED THE GREEN BOOK, AND THEY GO OUT AND DO A LOT OF THE MATH. ARE THEY ALWAYS, RIGHT? NO, BUT THEY ARE IN THE BALLPARK.
SO, I THINK WE SHOULD YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
I'M SURE THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS SOME OF THE SAME NUMBERS AS WE GO THROUGH.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK KEVIN A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND I KNOW BRITTANY'S NOT HERE.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MR. HARRELL BROUGHT UP IN THAT EMAIL THAT WAS SENT, AND ALSO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW WE VOTED FOR, A MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION. DOES ANYONE THINKING ABOUT ANOTHER MILLAGE RATE REDUCTION AND WHAT THAT DISCUSSION WOULD BE LIKE? I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT A MOTION, WE'RE READY TO READ THAT OR APPROVE THAT FIRST BUDGET.
UPON THE FIRST READING ON WEDNESDAY.
UM, I'VE BEEN MULLING IT OVER SINCE THE EMAIL CAME THROUGH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
WOULD THAT BE ANOTHER 320,000? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WOULD THAT PUT US OUT A COUPLE MORE DAYS TO A WEEK BEFORE WE APPROVE THE BUDGET? GO AHEAD. I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION IN THERE AND YES, YES, IT WOULD BE ANOTHER $320,000.
AND I'M GOING TO BE PREPARED TO DO THAT.
I COULD PROBABLY DO IT NOW, BUT I WANT TO BE FULLY PREPARED.
AND WE'LL BE PREPARED WITH ONE OF THOSE SLIDES ON WEDNESDAY.
BUT SO I'VE COMMUNICATED TO YOU ALL BY EMAIL BEFORE WEDNESDAY AND WE'LL HAVE THOSE ANSWERS AND MORE ON WEDNESDAY EVENING AT THE SPECIAL CALLED MEETING. THANK YOU, KEVIN.
COMMISSIONER WATERS TALKED TO JOE ESPARZA SATURDAY, THE TRAFFIC OFFICER FROM.
YESTERDAY WAS HIS LAST DAY BECAUSE IT WAS THE END OF THE HIGH SEASON.
SO HE'S NOT GOING TO BE THERE UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO STOP COMMITTEE IS MEETING MONTHLY AND.
MOVING FAIRLY SLOW AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME GOOD.
AND I SAW A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY.
NO ONE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP.
AND I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY THINGS HAPPEN.
BUT I KNOW THAT THAT THE THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE STILL ALIVE AND INJURED AND THE LOST AND THE FAMILIES AND THE SERVANTS, IT'S NOT A DAY GOES BY.
THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, AND NEITHER DO I.
SO GOD BLESS ALL THOSE PEOPLE AS WELL.
AND THAT WAS A GREAT TRIBUTE TO THEM, CANDACE.
IT'S A GREAT TRIBUTE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 23-39]
A ONE-YEAR AGREEMENT, CONTINUING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF LANGTON ASSOCIATES, INC, SUBJECT TO AND CONTINGENT UPON THE INCLUSION OF FUNDING FOR THIS PURPOSE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2023-24, CITY COMMISSION APPROVED BUDGET AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF $45,603.83 ANTICIPATED TO BE ALLOCATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2324 BUDGET.[00:55:04]
FOR THIS PURPOSE, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.SO, I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION.
HOW MUCH HAVE THEY? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 23-39.
GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. SO, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY MADE FOR US.
WHAT IS OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT? GO AHEAD. I TOTALED IT UP TODAY.
IT WAS OVER 500,000 IN GRANTS RECEIVED TO DATE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AND THERE'S SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND OF OUTSTANDING THAT MIGHT BE APPROVED.
AM I WRONG ON THAT? I THINK DON'T. I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S YOUR COMPLETE ENOUGH.
AND WE'RE PREPARED TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE ANSWER IF YOU'D LIKE.
INDEED. RIGHT ON CUE, IF I MAY, INTRODUCE KRISTIN BENNETT, SENIOR CONSULTANT WITH LANGTON ASSOCIATES, WHO IS PREPARED TO JUST GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY, IF YOU ALL WILL INDULGE US ON ON LANKTON'S WORK WITH US OVER THE PAST YEAR.
THANKS. I PREPARED, THOUGH YOU DO HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SO THERE'S THE NUMBERS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FORD, COMMISSIONERS AND OTHERS.
FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT YET KNOW ME, I'M KRISTIN BENNETT, SENIOR PUBLIC AFFAIRS CONSULTANT WITH LANGTON CONSULTING, YOUR CONTRACTED GRANTS DEVELOPMENT FIRM ON BEHALF OF OUR PRINCIPAL, MIKE LANGTON, AS WELL AS MY ASSOCIATES.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH CITY STAFF OVER THE COMING YEAR TO SECURE FUNDING VIA COMPETITIVE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TO ASSIST IN BRINGING A VARIETY OF THE CITY'S PRIORITIES TO FRUITION.
SINCE 2015, MYSELF AND OTHER ASSOCIATES IN THE FIRM HAVE WORKED WITH A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND PLANNING TO POLICE AND PARKS AND THOSE IN BETWEEN TO SUCCESSFULLY OBTAIN GRANT AWARDS FOR ATLANTIC BEACH TOTALING NEARLY $6 MILLION.
THESE AWARDS HAVE SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF PARKS GENERATOR PURCHASES, HARDENING OF CRITICAL FACILITIES, SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSIONS, CONSTRUCTION OF DUNE WALKOVERS, STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND MUCH MORE.
IN THE LAST YEAR WE'VE RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF $1,358,620 IN AWARDS, A RETURN THAT WE TRUST YOU FIND WORTHY OF YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
WE'VE JUST TWO WEEKS AGO SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL TO FUND FIVE MORE OF THOSE.
WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED AWARDS TO FUND A NUMBER OF STUDIES AND PLANNING PROJECTS THAT ARE CRITICAL FIRST STEPS NOT ONLY IN IDENTIFYING ISSUES AND DETERMINING THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND COST BENEFICIAL ACTIONS TO ADDRESS SUCH ISSUES, BUT TO BETTER POSITION THE CITY WHEN SEEKING OUT FUTURE GRANT FUNDING FOR THE PROJECTS OUTLINED IN THOSE PLANS.
ONE SUCH EXAMPLE IS THE $200,000 AWARD RECEIVED FROM THE US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION'S SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL PROGRAM, WHICH IS FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN, AN ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT TO ACCESS FUTURE SS FOR A FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WILL IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST SAFETY IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
PREVIOUSLY AWARDED PLANNING GRANTS LIKE THIS ONE CONTRIBUTED TO THE CITY'S RECENT VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN, WHICH ARE NOW PROVIDING VALUABLE DATA FOR OUR ARGUMENTS FOR NEED, MAKING OUR GRANT PROPOSALS MORE COMPLETE AND MORE COMPETITIVE, AND LEADING TO AWARDS FOR MITIGATION PROJECTS THAT ARE MAKING ATLANTIC BEACH MORE RESILIENT TO THE THREATS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
AS ALWAYS, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR WORK IS NOT PERFORMED IN A SILO.
OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH CITY STAFF ARE CRITICAL TO OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP SUCCESSFUL GRANT PROPOSALS.
MY COLLEAGUES AND I ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, FROM PROJECT IDENTIFICATION AND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH PROPOSAL, PREPARATION AND SUBMISSION TO GRANT AWARD.
WHEN I STOOD BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR, KIM AND I HAVE SINCE ESTABLISHED A STANDING EVERY OTHER WEEK MEETING DURING WHICH WE DISCUSS THE STATUS OF GRANT DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN PROGRESS AND REVIEW UPCOMING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR POTENTIAL MATCHES WITH CITY NEEDS.
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FOR THE OVERALL BETTERMENT OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COMMISSIONER, SO DO YOU WORK WITH STEVE SWANN ON SOME OF HIS WITH STEVE SWANN ON A LOT.
SO SO THE STUFF THAT STEVE FINDS OR SUBMITS, THEY'RE DONE IN COORDINATION WITH YOU OFTENTIMES, YES.
SO STEVE PROBABLY HAS A FEW LITTLE SQUIRRELS, SECRET SQUIRRELS OF HIS OWN OCCASIONALLY.
AND I FOUND WITH STEVE THAT IF THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT HE AND I HAVE WORKED ON TOGETHER FOR A BIT, THEN HE WILL PICK UP AND DO A BULK OF IT AND THEN SEND ALONG TO ME TO DO SOME JUDGING AND TO COORDINATE SOME OF THE DOCUMENT COLLECTION AND SUCH, AND THEN I CAN DO THE ACTUAL SUBMISSION.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF OF THAT THAT HAPPENS AS WELL.
STEVE IS STEVE IS MY FAVORITE.
IF I COULD PUT A STEVE LIKE IN EVERY ONE OF MY CLIENT COMMUNITY LIKE YOU GUYS HOLD ON TO HIM.
THANK YOU. YEAH, I JUST I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MARSH EROSION CONTROL STUDY.
IS IT REALLY GOING TO COST 175,000, THE STUDY ALONE? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR, I BELIEVE BRIAN BREDELL WAS THE LEAD ON STAFF.
I DID NOT PREPARE THAT PROPOSAL.
BUT I FIND THAT PLANNING STUDIES THESE DAYS ARE OFTEN VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE.
THAT NUMBER DOES NOT SOUND UNUSUAL TO ME FOR A PLANNING GRANT OF WHAT I ASSUME IS A RATHER LARGE SIZE, BECAUSE IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT DOES COVER THE ENTIRE THE ENTIRETY OF THE MARSHLAND, THE MARSH.
YEAH, IT'S QUITE, QUITE A DISTANCE.
I THINK I'VE HEARD BRIAN SPEAK ON IT.
SO WAS IT ALREADY DONE? THE STUDY WAS DONE.
AND MY COLLEAGUE PREPARED THAT PROPOSAL.
IS THAT GRANT ONLY TAKE CARE OF A STUDY OR DOES IT ACTUALLY PROVIDE FUNDING TO HELP WITH THE EROSION CONTROL? THE GRANT THAT WAS APPLIED FOR WILL JUST BE FOR THE STUDY.
BUT THE PROGRAM THAT IS FUNDING THAT STUDY, WHAT THAT IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE ITEMS IDENTIFIED IN THE STUDY COULD BE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES FOR FUTURE FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WOULD DO? I DO NOT.
QUESTION. WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER.
OKAY. COMMISSIONER WATERS OR BOLE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, KRISTIN.
MY SIMPLE MATH SAYS THAT YOU'VE RETURNED 21 TIMES WHAT WE'RE PAYING YOU, OR MAYBE SLIGHTLY MORE.
AND THAT'S STILL WITH 1,000,005 OUTSTANDING THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN APPROVED.
AND I'M BETTING YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME OF THOSE.
FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD, THAT'S A STUNNING SUCCESS STORY.
I WILL HAVE TO I JUST HAVE TO SHARE THIS YEAR, SINCE I WAS HERE, SINCE I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU LAST TIME, EVERY GRANT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED NOTICE OF AWARD OR REJECTION THIS YEAR HAS BEEN AN AWARD UNTIL ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE GOT A DECLINE OF A DECENT GRANT FOR THE SECOND PHASE OF THE OLD CHERRY DRIVE EXTENSION.
WELL, AND STEVE AND I ARE WORKING ON A ON A BRICK APPLICATION FOR THAT SAME PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
FURTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS.
AND ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY WITH I.
I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. UH, WHERE ARE WE? HERE WE GO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 8.B RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-35, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE
[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 23-35]
SUBMISSION OF AN APPLICATION FOR RESILIENT FLORIDA FUNDING FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2324 FUNDING CYCLE. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. HOGENCAMP, ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? YES, PLEASE, MR. MAYOR. THIS ENABLES US TO PURSUE SOME MORE GRANT FUNDING.IN THIS CASE, IT'S A 50% MATCH OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD ULTIMATELY REQUEST FUNDING.
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IT'S IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.AND THIS IS A FORMALITY TO GET, YOU KNOW, A GRANT APPLICATION THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-35.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SIGNIFY WITH I.
THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
[8.C. RESOLUTION NO. 23-37]
SHELTERS INC AND THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH FOR A TEMPORARY OFFICE TRAILER.AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THIS WAS ON YOUR AGENDA LAST MEETING, AND THERE WAS A LITTLE CHALLENGE THAT WE'VE OVERCOME WITH MR. GABRIEL'S HELP.
AND I THINK MR. GABRIEL'S PREPARED TO ADDRESS THIS AT THIS TIME.
JUST SAY THAT I REVIEWED THE CONTRACT AND IT'S A PRETTY BOILERPLATE VENDOR CONTRACT.
I HADN'T HAD THE CHANCE LAST TIME TO SAY SO, BUT I CAN SAY SO NOW.
SO. RIGHT. WELL, WE HEARD AT THE SCHOOL BOARD PRESENTATION AT SAFER AT BEACHES WATCH THAT.
THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THE PORTABLES TO GO TO GETTING A FREE RUNDOWN AND CATCH ONE THERE.
YEAH, THEY'RE PRETTY CRAPPY, THOUGH.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION? I MOVE, WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 23-37.
SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH.
OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU. MR. BOLE, I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT NUMBER.
ORDER! THIS IS ITEM NINE, ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-169.
[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 20-23-169, Introduction and First Reading]
INTRODUCTION. I'M SORRY.AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2022, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, FOR APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR APPROPRIATING FUNDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE JUSTICE ASSISTANCE GRANT.
MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE CREATES A BUDGET NECESSARY FOR US TO EXPEND THE FUNDS FROM THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY.
AND PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? AND GO AHEAD.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023-169.
SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE, AYE.
IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME JUST A MOMENT.
I MIGHT NOT BE LOOKING AT THE SAME ONE.
I'M SO SORRY. CHIEF, WILL YOU COME ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THROUGH THE MAYOR? I'M SORRY. I SAW SOME RUMBLINGS IN THE AUDIENCE AND WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THIS.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE A RESOLUTION, IS THAT RIGHT? OR AN ORDINANCE? SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE.
AND WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A RESOLUTION, CORRECT? CORRECT. THE RESOLUTION WAS PROVIDED JUST FOR YOUR BACKGROUND.
THE RESOLUTION WAS SO THAT WE COULD ACCEPT THE GRANT AND AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
THE ORDINANCE NOW IS A RESOLUTION OF ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BUDGET.
IT'S A NET ZERO WILL RECEIVE $53,808, WILL SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT.
SO, IT'S A NET ZERO COST TO THE CITY.
MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER, I HOPE YOU'LL FORGIVE ME.
I WAS I WAS READING THE AUDIENCE AND DIDN'T READ IT RIGHT.
IT IS AN ORDINANCE AND IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE BUDGET CORRECTION AND IT'S A FIRST READING.
SO, YOU'LL HAVE THE SECOND READING ON THE 25TH.
RIGHT. WHICH WILL BE THE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
YES. OKAY. IT WON'T BE READING ON THIS WEDNESDAY.
IT WON'T BE? NO, IT'LL BE ON THE.
SO, WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
WE HAD DISCUSSION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? YES. SECONDED.
HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SIGNIFY YOUR VOTE WITH THE AYE OR NAY.
OPPOSED. THAT WAS A LITTLE WEIRD.
NOW ON TO, I THINK WE'RE DONE WITH THAT CITY ATTORNEY.
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DO YOU HAVE COMMENTS? I DO NOT. THANK YOU.OKAY. DONNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO TO CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO START WITH MR.
[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]
HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU.DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. BOLE. WE DO GREAT AT GRANTS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLY.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE $100,000 FOR COMMUNITY CENTER UPGRADES.
AREN'T THEY THE KIND OF THINGS WE OUGHT TO BE DOING ANYWAY, OR ARE THEY SPECIFIC TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS? CONTRACT? YEAH.
THROUGH THE MAYOR. A LOT OF IT IS OUR THINGS THAT WE WOULD ORDINARILY BUILDING MAINTENANCE.
SOME SOME OF THE REQUESTS THOUGH NO DOUBT WILL BE SPECIFIC TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RING.
QUARTERS. I WANT TO THANK KEVIN FOR THE PARTY.
IT WAS MORE OF A JIMMY BUFFETT MEMORIAL PARTY THAN JOE GIRARDI SENDOFF PARTY.
I DO WANT TO SAY AGAIN THANK YOU TO SCOTT WILLIAMS AND HIS TEAM, ALSO, I'M SURE TO TROY AND ANYBODY WHO HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH PREPARATION FOR IDALIA.
THANK GOODNESS THAT WE DIDN'T GET A STORM ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I NEED A LITTLE MORE TRAINING HERE.
SO WE'LL BE IN GOOD STEAD THERE.
I ALSO WANT TO COMMENT THAT I WAS PRIVILEGED.
I WAS INVITED BY THE BASE COMMANDER A FEW WEEKS AGO TO ATTEND A LUNCH ON THE HMS DAUNTLESS, WHICH IS A BRITISH SHIP THAT SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS IN HARBOR AT MAYPORT.
AND THEY THEY WERE FIRST OF ALL, THEY WERE DELIGHTFUL.
THEY SUCH GOOD MANNERS AND AND SUCH A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE.
BUT THE CAPTAIN OF THE SHIP MADE THE COMMENT THAT THE REPAIRS THAT HE HAD DONE IN TWO WEEKS BY WHAT'S THE SHIPBUILDING COMPANY ACROSS THE BAY BY DID THE REPAIRS ON HIS SHIP IN TWO WEEKS AND IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN HIM SIX WEEKS IN GREAT BRITAIN.
SO THEY THEY JUST HAD A BLAST HERE.
BUT I MADE A COMMENT TO CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP THAT I WILL FORWARD ANY LETTERS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE NEED TO DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION WHEN WE KNOW A SHIP IS COMING INTO THE BASIN.
AND IN FACT, I'M AWARE THAT THERE WILL BE A BRITISH AIRCRAFT CARRIER COMING IN.
IT'S EITHER IN LATE NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, AND I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION AS SOON AS I GET THE LETTER.
SO JUST WANT TO REPORT THAT GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS? HEARING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.