>> THIS COMMISSION PRIORITY SETTING MEETING DATE ON MONDAY,
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FEBRUARY 5TH, 2024 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.EVEN THOUGH I CAN'T SEE YOU GUYS BEHIND ME, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE, CHAIR, AND PARTICIPATING.
THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT, YOUR CITY, AND IT ALL MATTERS.
WE'RE GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS TO KICK THIS OFF, BUT WE'LL START.
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I'M GOING TO CALL ON COMMISSIONER RING FIRST TO SHARE A SHORT VIDEO, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SPEAK. COMMISSIONER RING, ARE YOU READY?>> YES. DONNA IS GOING BACK THERE TO PULL UP A VIDEO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND.
THIS IS A PBS SPECIAL THAT WAS AIRED JUST THIS SUMMER.
IT'S ABOUT HOW RECYCLED OYSTER SHELLS HELP SAVE LOUISIANA'S COASTLINE.
IT IS JUST ONE OF THE IDEAS OF PUTTING THE MARSH SIDE PROTECTION AND RENOURISHMENT AS ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES THIS YEAR.
I BELIEVE AS WE GO BACK TO THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, A PRIORITY HASN'T BEEN MADE ON MARSH SIDE SPECIFICALLY LISTING THAT, SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE REASONS OR ONE OF THOSE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.
WHEN YOU PLAY IT DONNA CAN MAKE SURE YOU'RE PAIRING SOUND.
>> THE SOUND WE TESTED IT TODAY.
IT WOULD NOT SHARE, BUT WE DO HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONS.
>> OKAY. JUST FOR PUBLIC TO HEAR IT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING AS WELL AS THE VIDEO, BUT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
>> LOUISIANA'S COASTLINE HAVE BEEN LOST TO SEA.
SOUTHEAST ARE AMONG THE MOST EFFECTIVE.
AS OUR NEW ORLEANS CORE COMMUNITIES CORRESPONDENT ROBY CHAVEZ REPORTS, ONE VOLUNTEER-LED EFFORT IS GAINING ATTENTION IN THE FIGHT AGAINST COASTAL EROSION WITH AN UNLIKELY TOOL, RECYCLED OYSTER SHELLS.
>> A BOAT RIDE THROUGH THE MARSHES OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA IS A PAINFUL REMINDER OF THE STATE'S QUICKLY DISAPPEARING COASTLINE.
IT'S A SWATHE OF LAND THAT INCLUDES IMPORTANT CULTURAL SITES.
TREES ANCHOR TRIBAL MOUNDS SOME OLDER THAN STONEHENGE.
BY SOME ESTIMATES, THE STATE IS LOSING AT LEAST TWO MOUNDS PER YEAR.
THERESA DARDAR IS A MEMBER OF THE POINTE-AU-CHIEN TRIBE.
FOR YEARS, SHE FELT HELPLESS WATCHING PART OF THE TRIBE'S SACRED LAND FALL INTO THE WATER.
TO HELP PROTECT THE LAND FROM RAPID ERODING, THE TRIBE PARTNERED WITH THE NON-PROFIT COALITION TO RESTORE COASTAL LOUISIANA AND USED RECYCLED OYSTER SHELLS FROM LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO BUILD ARTIFICIAL REEFS.
>> THEY'RE HELPING US TO TRY TO SAVE WHAT WE WANT TO SAVE.
IT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD TO SEE THAT PEOPLE DO CARE, THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST HERE TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE THEY CARE.
>> THE COALITION USED NEARLY 400 TONS OF SHELLS TO CREATE OYSTER REEFS THAT NOW COVER 800 FEET OF COASTLINE NEAR THE TRIBAL MOUNDS.
SO FAR, THEIR PROJECT IS WORKING.
THE COALITION'S REEFS HAVE WITHSTOOD HURRICANE IDA IN 2021 AND SLOWED THE SHORELINE EROSION BY AS MUCH AS 50%.
>> WE TAKE A PRODUCT THAT USED TO GET SENT TO THE LANDFILL BUT IS VERY USEFUL IN SLOWING COASTAL LAND LOSS, AND WE PUT IT BACK INTO THE WATER WHERE IT BELONGS.
>> JAMES KARST WORKS WITH THE COALITION.
HE SAYS THE ARTIFICIAL REEFS ARE DESIGNED TO MIMIC NATURE, PROVIDING COASTAL PROTECTION FOR YEARS TO COME.
ONCE THESE REEFS ARE IN PLACE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM JUST ORGANICALLY?
>> LIFE BEGINS TO GROW ON THEM.
BABY OYSTERS ARE ATTRACTED TO THE OLD OYSTER SHELLS, AND THEY ATTACH TO THEM, AND THEY BEGIN TO GROW AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE LIVING SHORELINES.
TO ME, IT IS THE ULTIMATE SUSTAINABLE SEAFOOD, IT'S REALLY A WIN-WIN-WIN BECAUSE OYSTERS ALSO FILTER THE WATER.
THEY CAN HELP TO MINIMIZE STORM SURGE DURING HURRICANES AND TROPICAL STORMS, AND THEY SLOW THE RATE OF EROSION BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
>> IN ONE OF THE LARGEST SHELL RECYCLING PROGRAMS IN THE NATION, THE COALITION HAS SO FAR BUILT FIVE OYSTER REEFS PROTECTING 8,000 FEET OF DISAPPEARING SHORELINE.
IN ALL, 13 MILLION POUNDS OF SHELLS HAVE BEEN RECYCLED.
LOUISIANA IS THE NATION'S TOP OYSTER PRODUCER AND NEARLY 50 RESTAURANTS NOW PARTICIPATE IN THE RECYCLING PROGRAM THAT KEEPS THEIR OYSTERS OUT OF LANDFILLS.
JAMES CLESI IS THE CO-OWNER OF CLESI'S SEAFOOD RESTAURANT.
HE SAYS SIGNING UP FOR THE PROGRAM WAS A NO-BRAINER.
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>> WE GO THROUGH A LOT OF OYSTERS.
I WANT TO SAY THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF POUNDS.
IT'S REALLY COOL TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING RIGHT BACK TO WATER TO HELP THE OYSTER LIFESTYLE.
BUT IT'S REALLY EASY JUST TO ORDER THE OYSTERS, COOK THEM, SHUCK THEM, SERVE THEM, AND NOT REALLY KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
THEY GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEARN THE WHOLE LIFE CYCLE OF THE OYSTER, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO THE LOUISIANA COASTLINE, AND THE WAY OF LIFE FOR EVERYBODY THAT LIVES DOWN THERE.
>> BACK ON THE WATER, THERESA DARDAR AND HER HUSBAND DONALD KNOW THE OYSTER REEFS WON'T BE A CURE-ALL HERE.
THEY'RE ALSO FIGHTING TO BACKFILL OIL AND GAS EXPLORATION CANALS THAT CUT INTO THE MARSH.
BUT FOR NOW, IT NO LONGER FEELS LIKE THEY ARE ALONE IN THE FIGHT.
FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR IN NEW ORLEANS, I'M ROBY CHAVEZ.
>> THANK YOU. ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THE COMMENTARY? [BACKGROUND] [LAUGHTER].
>> THAT'S OKAY. WE STARTED THERE BUT WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO OUR SPEAKING AUDIENCE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN IN AND SPEAK, PLEASE COME AND START A LINE OVER HERE AND YOU CAN SPEAK AT THE LEFT TURN ONE BY ONE.
>> WE FILLED OUT SOME FORMS ALREADY [OVERLAPPING].
>> I THOUGHT I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE THEM COME UP.
>> I'M SORRY. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSIONERS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE SELF-IDENTIFYING.
>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I THOUGHT THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT BE HERE, BUT NO, CITY CLERK AND THE PUBLIC.
MY NAME IS SARAH BOREN. I LIVE ON EIGHTH STREET IN OLD ATLANTIC BEACH.
FOR THIS PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M WEARING MY CITIZEN AND 30-PLUS YEARS OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROFESSIONAL HAT. I'M OLD.
YES. EARLIER TODAY, I SENT EACH OF YOU AND THE CITY MANAGER AN EMAIL OUTLINING A VERY UNIQUE AND TIME-SENSITIVE POSSIBLE FUNDING OPPORTUNITY THAT REQUIRES NO MATCHING DOLLARS FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.
IT IS VIA THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT AND EPA'S CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT AND IS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COALITION.
THE DEADLINE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GRANT IS FEBRUARY 15TH WITH A FORMAL LETTER OF COMMITMENT DUE BY APRIL 1ST AND A SIGNED MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT BY JULY 1ST.
MY SPECIFIC ASK TONIGHT IS FOR THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY THAT DIRECTS AND EMPOWERS STAFF TO ACTIVELY PURSUE THIS FUNDING TO FORMALLY PARTNER WITH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL COALITION ON THE MANY FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THIS GRANT WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR AND TO CRAFT COMPETITIVE MEASURES FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.
FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THANKS TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE WILLING TO LEAD A MILLION-DOLLAR PLANNING GRANT FOR A PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA COALITION.
OUR REGION, INCLUDING THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, IS ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR $2-500 MILLION IN COMPETITIVE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT FUNDING.
THIS IS OUT OF A $4.3 BILLION US-WIDE FUND.
TO KEEP THIS OPPORTUNITY ALIVE LONG ENOUGH FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO CONSIDER AND BE ELIGIBLE FOR DIRECT AND INDIRECT REGIONAL FUNDING, I WORKED WITH STAFF TO SUBMIT A FEW DRAFT MEASURES THAT ALIGN WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH'S PRIORITIES AND PLANS, INCLUDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN.
THE CITY MANAGER RECOMMENDED I REACH OUT TO YOU ALL AND MADE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT TO SEE IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ADD PURSUING AND IMPLEMENTING THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY TO YOUR PRIORITY LIST.
IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL BRIEFLY LIST THE EIGHT POTENTIAL CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH MEASURES FROM AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO YOU THAT ARE CURRENTLY HOLDING A SPOT IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA'S PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
IT'S A SEAT AT THE TABLE IF YOU WILL.
THE EIGHT MEASURES ARE REDUCED ENERGY USAGE IN BUILDINGS, COMPOSTING, FLEET TRANSITION TO PARTIALLY EV AND INSTALL INFRASTRUCTURE, SOLAR FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, SOLAR AND RESILIENCE MEASURES FOR OUR COMMUNITY CENTER, IDEALLY, THE ONE THAT IS IN OUR EPA-IDENTIFIED LOW-INCOME DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND SOLAR FOR SENIORS, ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND SOLAR READY POLICY, AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH JTA AND RTPO TO REDUCE VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED VIA INCENTIVES PROGRAMS AND EDUCATION.
THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH MUST BE LISTED IN THE NORTHEAST COALITION'S PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.
THERE IS NO HOPPING ON AFTER FEBRUARY 15TH.
IF YOU AS COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY REAL HEARTBURN WITH
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THE ABOVE MEASURES OR DON'T HAVE ANY HEARTBURN, I SHOULD SAY, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO DOWNSIDE BEYOND STAFF TIME TO BEING A PART OF THE NORTHEAST CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION ACT PRIORITY CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, GOT TO LOVE THESE FEDERAL LONG TITLES, AND APPLYING FOR THESE GREAT IMPLEMENTATION GRANT DOLLARS.IF YOU HAVE SOME HEARTBURN, PLEASE DIRECT STAFF TO ADJUST THE PROPOSED MEASURES BEFORE FEBRUARY 15TH.
LET'S DEFINITIVELY RETAIN AN ACTIVE SEAT AT THIS FUNDING TABLE.
LET'S NOT MISS THIS INCREDIBLE CHANCE TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH AVAILABLE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT REQUIRE NO MATCHING FUNDS FOR MAYBE.
AGAIN, PLEASE ADOPT A PRIORITY TONIGHT TO DIRECT AND EMPOWER STAFF TO PURSUE THIS MAJOR GRANT OPPORTUNITY AND FORMALLY PARTNER WITH NORTHEAST FLORIDA COALITION FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE'S A LOT MORE MONEY OUT THERE AND BEING A PART OF THIS COLLABORATIVE REGIONAL COALITION OPENS LARGER DOORS, MAKES OUR PROPOSAL STRONGER, MORE COMPETITIVE, AND MORE LIKELY TO BE SUCCESSFULLY FUNDED.
THE TIME IS NOW TO BE NIMBLE AND READY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS ONE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND LEADERSHIP ON THAT ONE, ON THAT PROPOSAL.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY I LOOK FORWARD TO HOSTING JOAN HORN AT EFC ON FEBRUARY 14TH, VALENTINE'S DAY, AND HOPE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO COME AND HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THE BEST WAY WE CAN PROTECT THE MARSH.
THERE'S NO APPLAUSE OR OTHERWISE.
>> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU, CITY COMMISSIONERS STAFF, AND OF COURSE, YOUR NEIGHBORS.
I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE IT, SO HERE IS MY FULL NAME IN CASE YOU EVER SEE THAT ONE.
I MAKE MY HOME ON FIFTH STREET, HERE IN AB.
BY THE WAY, SLIDERS CONTRIBUTES THEIR OYSTER SHELLS FOR MY ONGOING ZERO SCAPING EXPERIMENTS ON OUR PROPERTY.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR THAT POINT.
I SPENT MOST OF MY WORKING LIFE AS A SENIOR EXECUTIVE, AND I'VE FOCUSED ON SOLVING SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES FOR A NUMBER OF GLOBAL BRANDS THAT I'M SURE YOU RECOGNIZE; COCA COLA AND MCDONALDS ALIKE, AND ALSO FOR 11 GOVERNMENTS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTAND A FEW KEY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP RECENTLY.
I KNOW THIS IS AN EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT COMMUNITY AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND VALUE SCIENCE IN THE SPACE.
I DON'T NEED TO SAY MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE A MUCH FULLER UNDERSTANDING OF ONE OF THE LEADING PRIORITIES OF THIS COMMUNITY, OUR RESILIENCE AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE THEY GO TOGETHER.
IT'S VITAL FOR OUR COMMISSION TO INCLUDE THOSE PRIORITIES AND TO HAVE THEM INCLUDED, EVEN IN THE CITY CHARTER, BECAUSE WE NOW RECOGNIZE HOW WELL CONNECTED THOSE ARE TO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE IN.
BUT SIMPLY OUR RESILIENCE AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE DEPENDS ON HOW OUR CITY MANAGES OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WHO IS THIS ESC THAT I SERVE ON AS VICE CHAIR AT THE MOMENT? THIS IS A GROUP OF 10 INDIVIDUALS AND 10 FAMILIES.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IT'S ALSO THEIR REGULAR CONTACT WITH HUNDREDS OF OUR CITIZENS AND IT CONVEYS THEIR JOINT PERSPECTIVES AS WELL ON THESE TOPICS.
YOU WERE SENT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE ESTABLISHED JOINTLY THROUGH A LONG RGS PROCESS AND I WON'T ADDRESS THOSE AGAIN, BUT I WILL SIMPLY I'D LIKE TO NOTE TONIGHT A COUPLE OF POINTS OF FOCUS ON HOW AND WHY WE THINK THE IMMEDIACY OF THOSE PRIORITIES REQUIRE THE CITY TO AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY STAFF AND FUNDING TIME.
RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE UNPRECEDENTED AS SARAH NOTED, FEDERAL AND STATE GRANTS THAT AB BECAUSE OF OUR WORK IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE. WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
CLEARLY, WE NEED TO CREATE AND DESIGNATE, I BELIEVE WHEN WE BELIEVE AS A GROUP, AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S DEDICATED TO SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE AS THE OFFICER OR THE CHIEF OFFICER WHO HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY IN THE CITY.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT FALLS ON A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT AREAS AND PROBABLY ISN'T HANDLED AS WELL AS IT COULD BE.
SINCE THE SCIENCE CLEARLY SUGGESTS THAT OUR GREATEST NEED WILL OCCUR IN THE COMING 6-10 YEARS.
WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS PRIORITY BECAUSE MAKING US MORE RESILIENT TO THE EFFECTS OF STORMS AND CHANGING CLIMATE TAKES YEARS.
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IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ACHIEVED OVERNIGHT.WE REALLY NEED TO DEDICATE SOMEONE FOR THAT PURPOSE AND FOR THAT JOB.
SECOND POINT IS THAT ESC CONSISTENTLY HEARS FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW AB IS LOSING ITS HIGHLY DESIRED CHARACTER.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE LEGACY THIS COMMISSION AND ANYONE IN THIS ROOM IS INTERESTED IN LEAVING BEHIND.
NEVERTHELESS, WE ARE DOING IT.
WE ARE STEADILY ERODING OUR UNIQUE TREE CANOPY.
IT IS UNIQUE, MANY TO TRAVEL UP AND DOWN THIS COAST KNOW THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE CANOPY.
THE CANOPY STANDS FOR A LOT OF THINGS.
IT'S CRITICAL PART OF OUR RESILIENCE IN THE FUTURE AND PART OF WHAT ALSO MAKES US UNIQUE.
NOT JUST IN ECONOMIC VALUE, BUT IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT MOST OF US HAVE CHOSEN AS THE PLACE THAT WE WANT TO LIVE.
MOST OF THE ISSUES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH REDEVELOPMENT AND OVERBUILDING, INCLUDING THE IMPERVIOUS CODES, WILD PAT TREE CUTTING, AND OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
OTHERWISE, IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THESE ISSUES, OUR DEVELOPMENT CODES AND ORDINANCES MAY WELL RESULT IN MORE COMMUNITY DISASTERS AND FLOODING THAT ARE LIKELY TO DIMINISH EVERYONE'S ECONOMIC INVESTMENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
NOT TO MENTION. WE THINK WE CAN NO LONGER FAVOR THE DESIRES OF A FEW SPECULATORS, DEVELOPERS, OR ACTORS.
WE NEED TO REALLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
THIRD POINT, AND THERE'S ONLY FOUR, YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW SOME PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY CITY STAFFERS.
I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND AND OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, BILL, WILL HOPEFULLY BE OUR MARSHALL DYLAN TO FOSTER COMMUNITY SERVICE AND A LOT OF LOCAL WISDOM IN ORDER.
IF YOU'RE UNDER 40 AND THAT CULTURAL REFERENCES GOES PAST YOU, THERE IS THREE DECADES OF RE RUNS FOR IT.
I KNOW MY TIME IS UP BUT I'LL BE SUPER BRIEF ON THAT LAST POINT IF I MAY?
>> THANK YOU. WE NEED TO INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND RESILIENCE AS APPROPRIATE INTO ALL OF THE CITY EMPLOYEE JOB DESCRIPTIONS AND THEIR ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEWS.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IF IT'S NOT IN THE JOB DESCRIPTION, IT'S FALLS BETWEEN THE CRACKS.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ALL PLAYING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
WE'RE OPERATING IN SILOS, AND SO WE'RE NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS WE COULD BE.
WE REALLY HOPE THAT THAT WILL BE PIECE OF WHAT YOU DO.
FINALLY, BECAUSE WE OPERATE BLINDLY, IF WE DON'T HAVE DATA AND EDUCATION, WE DO NEED TO KEEP INVESTING IN A TRANSPARENT AND INFORMED COMMUNITY.
DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON, CERTAINLY FROM THE ESC, ABOUT OUR CANOPY AND ABOUT THE ESTUARY.
THE COAST IS A VITAL PART OF THAT.
WE HOPE THAT YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO INVEST IN THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
>> HI EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JOAN HORN.
I LIVE ON THE MARSH SIDE OF ATLANTIC BEACH.
I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO MAKE AN IMPASSIONED PLEA TO OUR MAYOR AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ON BEHALF OF THE ICW PARKS AND HOMEOWNERS TO HELP US SAVE OUR LANDS AND HOMES FROM EROSION, FLOODING, AND DEVASTATION.
INSTEAD OF FIGHTING US HEAD ON AND DENYING THE PROBLEM, WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO WORK WITH US IN A PARTNERSHIP TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, TO TAKE ACTION NOW TO START SAYING YES INSTEAD OF NO, AND TO IMMEDIATELY START IMPLEMENTING PROGRAMS TO ACHIEVE RESULTS.
THE EROSION AND FLOODING THREATS WE FACE AT THE ICW ARE NOT UNIQUE.
GOVERNMENTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCIES WORLDWIDE ARE GRAPPLING WITH THE SAME ISSUES.
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS HAVE BEEN SPENT ON STUDIES TO DETERMINE THE BEST WAY TO TACKLE THESE PROBLEMS. MANY MARINE BIOLOGISTS HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS. I HAPPEN TO KNOW ONE, THE CITY APPLIED FOR A GRANT INVOLVING THE MARSH WITH THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION LAST FALL THAT WAS NOT APPROVED FOR FUNDING.
NOW WE ARE BEING TOLD BY THE CITY THAT NOTHING WILL HAPPEN TO SAVE OUR LAND, TREES, AND HOMES UNTIL WE CAN GET FUNDING TO DO THE STUDY THEY PROPOSED.
I READ THE ENTIRE GRANT APPLICATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THEY ARE PROPOSING AND WHY WE WERE DENIED FUNDING.
I WAS SHOCKED AT WHAT I FOUND.
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH CONTRACTS WITH LANGDON CONSULTING TO WRITE ALL OF OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS.
I AM PUZZLED WHY THIS GRANT APPLICATION WAS NOT WRITTEN BY THEM.
INSTEAD, IT WAS WRITTEN BY THE STAFF AT CITY HALL.
FRANKLY, IT IS EMBARRASSING TO READ.
THE GRANT APPLICATION IS A 14 PAGE FILL IN THE BLANK DOCUMENT.
MUCH OF THE ANSWERS PROVIDED BY THE CITY WERE INCOMPLETE OR MISSING ALTOGETHER.
IN FACT, SEVEN OF THE 14 PAGES THAT THE GRANT TOUR EXPECTS TO BE FILLED OUT ARE BLANK.
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THERE WAS NO COMMITMENT TO USE ANY EMPLOYEE FROM THE CITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOVING THE PROJECT FORWARD.THERE WAS NO EFFORT TO INCLUDE A MARINE BIOLOGIST AS A TEAM MEMBER TO ASSIST IN DEVELOPING.
THE GRANT REQUEST ASKED WHAT BENEFITS THE CITY COULD EXPECT FROM THE PROJECT IF IT WERE FUNDED.
THERE WAS NO REFERENCE TO SAVING THE TREES, LAND, PARKS, OR HOMES AT THE ICW, WHICH I THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN ITS MAIN PURPOSE.
THE GRANT REQUEST WAS FOR $150,000.
PART OF THE REASON MUCH OF THE APPLICATION WAS BLANK IS THAT THE ENTIRE AMOUNT WAS TO BE SPENT ON FOUR DIFFERENT CONSULTING TO TRACK EROSION, CREATE A BASELINE TO MEASURE CHANGE IN THE FUTURE, AND CONDUCT PILOT PROJECTS TO TEST METHODS OF CONTROL EROSION.
ONLY IF THESE PILOT PROJECTS WERE SUCCESSFUL WOULD THE CITY EXTEND PROGRAMS TO CRITICALLY ERODING AREAS IN THE MARSH.
I ASKED YOU, WHY WOULD THE NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION GIVE US MONEY TO CONDUCT OUR OWN STUDIES WHEN THEY HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS DOLLARS AND MAN HOURS RESEARCHING THESE SAME PROJECTS? WHAT ON EARTH WOULD $150,000 EVEN BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THIS REGARD? THE STUDIES PROPOSED BY THE CITY WERE ESTIMATED TO TAKE 1.5 YEARS TO COMPLETE.
WE DID NOT GET THE MONEY, THERE ARE NO STUDIES, AND WE ARE BACK AT SQUARE 1.
THE CITY SAYS THAT UNTIL WE GET FUNDED TO DO THESE STUDIES, NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO SAVE OUR TREES, LAND PARKS, AND HOMES THAT SIT ON THE BRINK OF DESTRUCTION.
THAT WOULD PUT US SOMEWHERE IN 2026, UNDER THE BEST CASE SCENARIO TO EVEN BEGIN TO SAVE THE MARSH, WE ARE IN A CATCH 22 WITH THE CITY AND DESTINED NEVER TO GET ANYTHING DONE UNTIL WE CONDUCT MEANINGLESS STUDIES THAT HAVE NO RELEVANCE, NO FUNDING, AND NEVER WILL.
WE WILL NEVER GET FUNDING FOR RESEARCH PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE AND ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED WORLDWIDE.
WE DON'T NEED TO, THE FACTS ARE THERE, WE JUST NEED TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTING TECHNIQUES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.
ONE SUCH PROJECT IS THE OYSTER SHELL INITIATIVE THAT IS BEING SUCCESSFULLY PRACTICED THROUGHOUT THE US AND CLOSE TO US AT GUANA PART JUST 20 MILES SOUTH AND SACALO ISLAND PRESERVE IN GEORGIA 80 MILES TO OUR NORTH ON THE ICW.
OYSTERS ARE NATIVE TO THE ICW.
TRUCKLOADS OF OYSTERS ARE DISCARDED BY LOCAL SEAFOOD, RESTAURANTS THAT TRASH ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
WHEN BACKED AND PLACED AT THE SHORE, THEY ADHERE TO THE MUD, SECURE THE SOIL TO PREVENT EROSION AND URGE MORE OYSTER GROW.
OYSTERS ARE ONE OF NATURE'S BEST FILTRATION SYSTEMS. EACH OYSTER FILTERING UP TO 50 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY.
THEY PROTECT AGAINST EROSION AND HAVE TRANSFORMATIVE EFFECTS ON WATER QUALITY AND CLARITY.
THE CITY HAS MADE US BELIEVE THAT WE NEED A GRANT TO DO ANYTHING TO MITIGATE EROSION AND FLOODING AT THE MARSH IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.
THE CITY CAN, IF THEY SO CHOOSE, ALLOCATE FUNDS FROM THE CITY BUDGET FOR SUCH EXPENDITURES.
CAN WE START TODAY? I'M PROPOSING THAT THE CITY COMMISSION DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO START SEVERAL LOW COST TEST SITES TO IMPLEMENT NOW.
I HAVE A CONTINGENT OF VOLUNTEERS JUST WAITING TO HELP.
>> THANK YOU, MS. HORN. [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT'S OKAY. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE MOVE TO ITEM 4,
[4. REVIEW OF 2023 PRIORITIES AND THEIR STATUS (BILL KILLINGSWORTH, CITY MANAGER)]
REVIEW OF THE 2023 PRIORITIES AND THEIR STATUS.WE'LL START WITH MR. KILLINGSWORTH.
ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK FIRST OR ARE YOU GOING TO BRING KEVIN?
>> KEVIN'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE PRIORITIES AND OUR ABILITY TO MEET THEM.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU TO PLEASE SPEAK IN YOUR MICROPHONES, JUST AS YOU'VE DONE SO FAR TODAY FOR THE PURPOSE OF EVERYONE AT HOME HEARING YOU AND FOR THE RECORDINGS.
WE THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL TO REVIEW THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU ESTABLISHED A YEAR AGO AND TO GIVE JUST A REAL BRIEF STATUS REPORT.
I'M LITERALLY JUST GOING TO GIVE A WORD OR TWO AND GET THROUGH THESE 20 PRIORITIES THAT YOU ESTABLISHED.
THIS REPORT IS GOING TO INDICATE THAT WE MADE SOME PROGRESS ON 16 OF YOUR 20.
ON THE FIRST SLIDE OF SIX CATEGORIES CITY SERVICES IN COLLABORATION, ONE PRIORITY WAS DEVELOPING AN EFFECTIVE CUSTOMER CENTRIC SERVICE STRATEGY THAT SETS MEASURABLE GOALS AND YOU CAN READ THE REST.
FRANKLY, MAYOR AND COMMISSION, WE DID NOT MAKE PROGRESS ON THIS PRIORITY.
NEXT IS PROVIDING CONSISTENT AND EQUITABLE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
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LEAD STAFF MAINTAIN THAT WE CONTINUE TO DO JUST THAT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.THE THIRD PRIORITY, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING A COMPREHENSIVE VOLUNTEER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE MADE SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS.
THE NEXT IS ENHANCING SENIOR SERVICES, PROGRAMMING AND OUTREACH TO SENIORS.
WE, FRANKLY, HAVE NOT MADE PROGRESS WITH THAT PRIORITY.
OUR NEXT IS EXPLORING ALLIANCES WITH THE CHILD SERVICE ORGANIZATION TO SUPPORT THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM.
AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY SAY WE HAVE INDEED SUCCEEDED WITH THIS PRIORITY.
NEXT IS FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS WITH IBIZA CITY, THE CITY OF JACKSON, AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO DO THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR.
UNDER THE CATEGORY OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, ADMINISTERING THE CITY'S 10 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IS FRANKLY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING WELL TODAY AND WE COULDN'T HAVE REPORTED THAT JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
WE'VE COME A LONG WAY AND WE'RE INDEED DOING THAT.
WE ALSO ARE EXPLORING OPTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SENATE BILL 64.
AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS THERE.
WE ALSO ADMINISTERED THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN BOTH IN OUR BUDGET PLANNING AND DAY TO DAY OPERATION.
AND FINALLY, AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, WE INDEED ARE REVIEWING THE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT CODES PERTAINING TO IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND RETENTION SWELL REQUIREMENTS.
UNDER THE CATEGORY OF RESILIENCE AND ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP, THE FIRST PRIORITY, INDEED, WE ARE UPDATING THE CITY'S VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S ADAPTATION PLAN, AND WE HAVE A GRANT TO DO JUST THAT.
THE NEXT PRIORITY IS REDUCING RESIDENTIAL WATER CONSUMPTION BY 15%.
IN 2023, WE REDUCED RESIDENTIAL WATER CONSUMPTION BY 5.5% AFTER SIX OR SEVEN STRAIGHT YEARS OF INCREASING WATER CONSUMPTION.
THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THAT PRIORITY IS REDUCING RESIDENTIAL AND ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY 10%.
INDEED, WE HAVE, OVER THE FISCAL YEAR THAT ENDED ON SEPTEMBER 30, WE DID REDUCE CITY ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY 10%.
WE HAVE NOT MEASURED OR WORKED WITH JEA TO MEASURE THE RESIDENTIAL ENERGY COMPONENT, AND WE HAVE SOME REPORTING, SOME DATA TO GATHER THERE.
THE NEXT PRIORITY IS ADOPTING AN INTEGRATED PEST MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE CITY.
INDEED, THAT IS A PROJECT UNDERWAY IN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AS I THINK YOU KNOW, WE INDEED DO HAVE DATA NOW THAT WE'RE UTILIZING TO CREATE ACTIONS TO FURTHER PROTECT AND ENHANCE OUR TREE CANOPY UNDER THE NEXT CATEGORY, TRAFFIC SAFETY AND PARKING MANAGEMENT.
THE FIRST THREE OF THOSE BULLETS, FRANKLY, THROUGH YOUR ACTION IN ESTABLISHING THE SAFETY, TRAFFIC, AND PARKING COMMITTEE, WE'RE TACKLING THOSE PRIORITIES.
THE FOURTH PRIORITY THAT YOU ESTABLISHED, CONDUCTING AN ANALYSIS REGARDING THE FIVE WAY, WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT PRIORITY.
UNDER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WE INDEED, THROUGH OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AND OTHERWISE, DO ADMINISTER THE MAYPORT ROAD VISION IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, CONNECTIVITY PLAN, AND PARKS MASTER PLAN.
INDEED, THE PARKS MASTER PLAN UPDATE IS WELL UNDERWAY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE NEXT PRIORITY, DEVELOPING A SEMINOLE ROAD GATEWAY IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
WE HAVE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT PRIORITY.
FINALLY, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SORRY, DONNA.
UNDER CITY FACILITIES, WE HAVE MADE UPGRADES TO ADELE GRAGE'S THEATER AND MORE ARE PARTIALLY FUNDED IN THE CURRENT YEAR AND WE'LL BE ASKING IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET FOR A FEW MORE THOUSAND TO ACCOMPLISH IMPROVING THE LIGHTING AND SOUND AT THE THEATER.
FINALLY, AS FAR AS ENHANCING YOUTH BASEBALL, PICKLEBALL, TENNIS, AND RACQUETBALL FACILITIES, I CAN REPORT, OF COURSE, THAT WE ARE ENHANCING THE PICKLEBALL FACILITIES AND WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MONEY BUDGETED OR OTHERWISE IN TERMS OF ENHANCING YOUTH BASEBALL, TENNIS, AND RACQUETBALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I'D LIKE TO TURN US OVER TO MR. KILLINGSWORTH.
>> THANK YOU, KEVIN. WE GOT A 16 OUT OF 20, THAT'S 80%.
NOT AS WELL AS WE WOULD LIKE, BUT BETTER THAN HOPEFULLY PASSING.
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IF YOU'D LIKE, MR. MAYOR, IF WE COULD INTRODUCE LINDA AND MAYBE [OVERLAPPING]>> I THINK WE'VE GOT A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY.
BILL HERE IS COMING INTO OUR CITY FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY.
WHAT I DID BEFORE I CAME HERE IS I GRADED US, I GAVE US A'S, B'S, AND C'S.
BUT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE, I'M PART OF THE PROBLEM.
I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THREE-AND-A-HALF YEARS.
WHAT'S YOUR PERSPECTIVE? I'M SURE KEVIN'S GOT A THICK SKIN AND THE REST OF THESE PEOPLE DO, BUT YOU'RE COMING IN NEW.
WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT WE'VE DONE RIGHT OR WRONG IN GENERAL OF ADDRESSING THESE PRIORITIES? BECAUSE I'VE SAT THERE AND WATCHED PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT PRIORITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE AND THEN VOTE AGAINST IT AS YOU GO DOWN.
BUT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF SOMEBODY ASKED YOU HOW ATLANTIC BEACH IS DOING IN REGARDS TO THEIR PRIORITIES?
>> PUT THE NEW GUY ON THE SPOT?
>> I WOULD SAY IN GENERAL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FULL CONTEXT OF IT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTEXT PRIOR TO OCTOBER RIGHT, YOU HAD AN INTERIM CITY MANAGER, YOU WERE IN A STATE OF TRANSITION.
BASICALLY, YOU HAD SEVEN MONTHS THAT YOU WERE IN A HOLDING PATTERN OF THE LAST YEAR.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT, I THINK STAFF DID A GREAT JOB.
I'VE TALKED TO SOME OF YOU IN TERMS OF WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO WITH THIS GOING FORWARD, WHICH IS WHEN WE COME BACK WITH THE PRIORITIES, THAT AFTER WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE COME BACK WITH PRIORITIES FOR THE COMMISSION TO ADOPT, MY PLAN IS TO ASSIGN THOSE TO PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS.
THEY MAY BE ASSIGNED TO MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS, WE CAN HAVE THEM TAKE MULTIPLE STEPS TO GET TO THAT? BUT I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT AS PART OF THE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
BUT IN MY CASE, IT WOULD JUST BE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEN I WILL EVALUATE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS BASED ON HOW THEY PERFORM IN MEETING THESE PRIORITIES, AND WE'LL USE THESE PRIORITIES ALSO TO HELP DRIVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDED BUDGET PROCESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
>> IT DOES, BUT YOU GUYS YOU GUYS GRADED YOURSELVES, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN CHECK A BOX, BUT THERE'S AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE INVOLVED IN THAT.
>> WE WENT THROUGH THE MAYOR TO THE COMMISSIONER, I WOULD SAY THAT WE DIDN'T GRADE OURSELVES, WE JUST [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> JUGGLING C MINUSES, B PLUSES.
[OVERLAPPING] I APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT YOUR PERSPECTIVE, LIKE I SAY, IS UNIQUE IN THAT YOU CAN PINPOINT AND TARGET NOW.
>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS, AND THIS IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WITH OULDER, SO I HAVEN'T HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH KEVIN, SO THIS IS PURELY OF SOME [INAUDIBLE] THAT MAY BE INACCURATE IS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SET PRIORITIES IN THE PAST AND IT WAS LARGELY THE CITY MANAGER AND EVERY CITY MANAGER THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUSHING THEM FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S MORE POWERFUL WHEN THESE PRIORITIES ARE PUSHED DEEP INTO THE ORGANIZATION, SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SEE PERHAPS [OVERLAPPING]
>> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A BOARD UP THERE AND SEE THE PROGRESS YOU GUYS ARE MAKING.
WHAT'S UP, ALL THAT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? TO COMMUNICATE.
>> MR. MAYOR, COULD WE [INAUDIBLE]
>> THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
SORRY. BUT WE WILL HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING NEXT MONDAY, SO BRING IT BACK.
>> AT THIS TIME, WE GET TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT SEGMENT.
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LET'S SEE. HOLD ON A SECOND.I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE OUR FACILITATOR.
THERE SHE IS FIRST OF ALL, I JUST HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU.
LINDA IS GOING TO BEEN SO HELPFUL WITH THE CITY IN FACILITATING.
LINDA IS TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE EARLY POLLEN ONSET TONIGHT.
IF SHE'S A LITTLE FUZZY, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND SHE'S TRYING TO BACK THE PROBLEM.
LINDA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
OVER THE YEARS, YOU'VE GOT THIS CITY AND I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND PUTTING IT ON PAPER AND I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY.
I'VE JUST REALLY BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR IT JUST GETS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
I THINK THAT FIRST YEAR THAT WE DID IT WAS REALLY CLUMSY PROBABLY.
BUT I THINK IT'S JUST GOTTEN MORE FINELY HONED AND EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD.
BUT I WAS JUST WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
I WAS REFLECTING THIS IS HER SEVENTH PRIORITY SETTING SESSION.
COMMISSIONER WATERS AND COMMISSIONER BOLE.
COMMISSIONER RING AND MAYOR FORD.
WHAT I'VE DONE EVERY OTHER YEAR IS NOT A REALLY LONG INTRO,
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BUT SETTING THE STAGE FOR HOW WE DO THE WORK.I THINK WE KNOW HOW TO DO THE WORK NOW.
I'M GOING TO SKIP SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
LIKE I LOVE THE EISENHOWER MODEL, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO IT.
YOU LOVE THE EISENHOWER MODEL TOO.
JUST REALLY, TWO THINGS, REALLY ALL I WANT TO SHOW YOU, ONE OF THEM.
LET'S REMIND OURSELVES WHAT IS A PRIORITY? IT'S A TOPIC THAT WILL RECEIVE PARTICULAR UNUSUAL AND SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION DURING THE TIME PERIOD.
WHAT MAKES SOMETHING HAVE PARTICULAR UNUSUAL SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION IS IT'S NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL? IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS EITHER NEW OR RENEWED OR HAS A SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION.
IT'S SOMETHING BIGGER THAN JUST THE STAFF COMES TO WORK AND DOES THEIR JOB EVERY DAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND.
THEN THE OTHER PART THAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO REMIND YOU IS THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE TO THE STAFF.
MR. KILLINGSWORTH IS GOING TO MAKE GOALS FOR HIS STAFF.
YOU NEED TO GIVE HIM PRIORITIES THAT CAN ENABLE HIM TO WRITE GOALS.
AND HIS GOALS, AS HE KNOWS, HAVE TO BE SMART.
NOT GENERAL, LIKE MAKE SOMETHING BETTER, BUT HOW BETTER, HOW MUCH, HOW MEASURED, ETC., SPECIFIC, MEASURABLE.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE BY LIVING HUMAN BEINGS IN ATLANTIC BEACH WITH AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE HAVE OR AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE COULD GET.
I LOVE THIS ONE BECAUSE THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOING SOMETHING RIGHT AND DOING THE RIGHT THING.
SOMETIMES WE TAKE ACTION AND IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD, AND IT'S A GOOD ACTION.
BUT IT ISN'T REALLY GOING OVER HERE WHERE WE NEED IT TO GO.
HIS GOALS NEED TO BE RELEVANT AND THEY NEED TO BE TIME BOUND.
WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAD A LITTLE MEETING THE OTHER DAY TO PLAN FOR THIS BECAUSE I KNOW STAFF STARTS DOING THEIR PRE BUDGETING WORK IN APRIL, IS THAT RIGHT? IN APRIL.
FOR THE BUDGET YEAR TO BEGIN IN OCTOBER, YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING ON A BUDGET THAT STARTED LAST OCTOBER.
WE ALMOST HALFWAY THROUGH THAT YEAR THROUGH THAT BUDGET.
THEN WHEN THE NEW BUDGET IS WRITTEN, THAT'S GOING TO BE FOR 2024, 25.
WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, YOU REALLY ARE THINKING 24, 25.
YOU'RE THINKING A LONGER PERIOD THAN JUST 12 MONTHS REALLY.
THEN JUST A COUPLE OTHER REMINDERS, THE CATHEDRAL THAT TOOK 400 YEARS AND SOMEBODY BUILT THE STEPS, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE DID THE STAINED GLASS AND SOMEBODY ELSE DID THE ALTAR, AND SOMEBODY DID THE PEWS.
IT TAKES A LONG TIME FOR SOME THINGS TO HAPPEN AS KEVIN WAS GOING OVER THE PRIORITIES, I WAS THINKING, OKAY, WELL, THAT'S A CATHEDRAL AND THEY GOT STEPS DONE, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE LONGER, REMEMBER TO THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
IT'S STILL GOOD WORK AND IT'S STILL WORTH DOING.
THEN ONE OTHER THING AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS TO YOU BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST A GOOD REMINDER THAT IS, I'M GOING TO READ THE COMMUNITY VISION THAT THEY CAME UP WITH IN 2021 OR 22.
IT WAS RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF COVID. I KNOW THAT.
WE COULDN'T HAVE TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO DO A COMMUNITY VISION, BUT WE DID IT ALL THROUGH SURVEYS.
NINE HUNDRED PEOPLE RESPONDED TO A SERIES OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED.
THIS IS WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, WHAT THEY AND WE CAME UP WITH IN ATLANTIC BEACH.
WE HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING AND SAFETY WE DO, DON'T WE? I WAS JUST TALKING WITH OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND SAYING, JUST AS I WAS RECORDING YOUR PRIORITIES, WE DIDN'T HAVE MANY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL.
OUR CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENT CARE ABOUT COMMUNITY CHARACTER AS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT FROM DAN.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT UNIFIED SUPPORT IS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE IT.
NO ONE STREET, NO ONE EFFORT, NO ONE PERSON CAN MAINTAIN THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
WE ARE GRACED BY THE FUNCTIONAL BEAUTY OF OUR BEACH, MARSH, AND TREE CANOPY.
FUNCTIONAL BEAUTY IS WHAT THE ESC IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT.
IS BEAUTIFUL. BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT BECAUSE IT WORKS.
OUR SHADY TREES AND MULTI USE PASS CONNECT OUR WELCOMING NEIGHBORHOODS AND VIBRANT LOCAL BUSINESSES.
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WE LIKE BEING CONNECTED.WE LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
OUR CITY SUPPORTS A DIVERSE, MULTIGENERATIONAL, SOCIALLY CONNECTED COMMUNITY.
I LOVE THAT PART WITH GREEN SPACES, ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, PARKS AND PROGRAMMING.
THIS IS WHAT THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH HAVE SAID TO YOU.
THEY'VE SAID, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BY 2040.
YOU WERE ELECTED TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY GET TO THAT PLACE.
THEN THE STAFF'S JOB IS TO DO THE GROUNDWORK, TO WRITE THE GRANTS TO BUILD THE SIDEWALKS, TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS TO GET TO THAT PLACE.
THAT'S JUST HOW ALL THE PIECES FIT TOGETHER.
AREN'T WE LUCKY TO LIVE IN SUCH A GREAT PLACE WITH THAT? WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST GET RIGHT STARTED.
UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY I UNDID MY PAPERS SO MANY TIMES THAT THEY'RE LOST THEIR STICKY.
I'M HAVING TO HUNT A LITTLE BIT WITH THIS.
LET'S SEE HOW MUCH OF THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY WAS YOUR FIRST ONE, AND SO I'LL TELL YOU WHO SUBMITTED THESE.
THESE FIRST TWO WERE FROM MAYOR FORD.
THE FIRST ONE WAS TO REVIEW FLEET MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT POLICIES FOR COST REDUCTION IF POSSIBLE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE MAYOR, YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENT OR WANT TO ADJUST THAT AT ALL? DOES THAT SAY PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU NEEDED TO SAY? NEXT ONE IS REVIEW THE PROS AND CONS OF OUTSOURCING RESIDENTIAL PERMITTING AND INSPECTION.
YOU SPECIFIED RESIDENTIAL FOR A REASON.
>> BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY OUTSOURCED.
>> EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? COMMISSIONER KELLY SUBMITTED THIS ONE.
CULTIVATE RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL AND STATE OFFICIALS TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR INCREASED RESOURCES AND COOPERATION.
I TOLD YOU I WAS JUST GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THESE TODAY.
PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON THE WORD RESOURCES.
>> BECAUSE GRANTS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
BASED TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE US THE GRANT.
MAKES IT EASIER TO IDENTIFY RESULTS.
>> YES, THAT'S RIGHT. ALSO FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY USED DATA AND BUDGET ANALYSIS TO EXAMINE FISCAL EFFECTS BEFORE VOTING ON ANNUAL BUDGET OR UNEXPECTED EXPENSES.
>> CAN I ASK YOU QUESTION? FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY, FOR INSTANCE, LAST YEAR WE HELD THE MILITARY.
UNDER THAT BROAD CATEGORY IS THAT YOU RESPECTING THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS? WOULD THAT BE UNDER THAT HEADING?
>> WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S A FINE AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THESE BEST A LOT OF THEM.
>> YEAH, IT'S A PUSH ME PULL YOU, ISN'T IT? REMEMBER FROM THE DR. SEUSS MOVIE, IT WAS A LLAMA WHO HAD A HEAD ON EACH END.
IT WAS TWO LLAMAS THAT WERE LIKE HOOKED IN THE MIDDLE.
HE CALLED IT A PUSH ME, PULL YOU AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS.
IT'S JUST LIKE IN OUR FAMILIES.
SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ADD ANY OTHERS? LET'S MOVE ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PLANNING.
AGAIN, CONTINUOUS PURSUIT OF GRANTS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, BOTH STATE AND LOCAL GRANTS, THAT CAME FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY.
SO TO THE NEXT ONE. SET POLICY TO ACCEPT DONATIONS FOR SPECIFIC FUNCTIONS AT THE NEW CENTER.
>> WE HAVEN'T EVEN DECIDED THAT YET.
DO WE HAVE A POLICY FOR ACCEPTING DONATIONS? NO. GOOD.
>> I UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY EVEN SAT DOWN AND DECIDED WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE OR WHAT AREAS IT'S GOING TO COVER.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD COME BEFORE WE START POINTING MONEY AT IT.
>> I'M GOING TO PUT THAT IN A PARKING PLACE. YEAH, GO AHEAD.
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>> I TOTALLY AGREE. FORM IS GOING TO FOLLOW POLICY.
WHATEVER IT IS WE DECIDE WE WANT TO DO THERE, BUT ALONG THE WAY, PEOPLE [INAUDIBLE] BEHIND IN THE PAYMENTS, AND SO LET'S SAY WE DECIDED THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A CLASSROOM INSTRUCTIONAL SPACE.
IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY THAT YOU WANT US TO DONATE THE OVERHEAD INJECTOR, THAT WOULD BE A DOMINATION FOR A SPECIFIC THING.
>> FOR ME, THE PRIORITY WOULD REALLY BE LET'S FIND OUT WHAT A, DO WE NEED IT, B, WHAT'S ITS FUNCTION, AND C, BEFORE.
>> THEY MAKE ALL THAT HAPPEN IN TANDEM.
>> THIS IS JUST IN A PARKING PLACE, AND WE'LL PROBABLY FIND A GOOD PLACE TO PUT THAT.
THIS IS ALSO FOR COMMISSIONER KELLY.
SET FOCUS, PRIORITIZE PLAN TO IMPLEMENT CONNECTIVITY PLAN BY INCREASING BICYCLE ROUTES AND ESPECIALLY AROUND KEY DESTINATIONS.
I ABBREVIATED THIS A LITTLE BIT FROM YOUR ORIGINAL VERBIAGE.
>> THE BIG PICTURE IS INCREASING BICYCLE USAGE IN THE CITY DOES AIR POLLUTION [OVERLAPPING] GOES DOWN.
HOW IT DOES PARKING, IT DOES ENERGY, ALL THOSE THINGS.
ONE OF THE THINGS TO ENCOURAGE IT WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRST CONNECTIVITY PLANS THAT WE IMPLEMENT NEXT WOULD BE THE ONES THAT ARE TAKING PEOPLE TO THE TOWN CENTER OR TO THE SCHOOL.
>> WE HAVE A CONNECTIVITY PLAN.
SO YOUR POINT IS, WHERE DO WE START IN THAT PLAN?
>> YEAH, WHERE WE GO NEXT BECAUSE WE HAD IT FOR A WHILE.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THIS NEXT STEP IN THAT.
>> DOES THAT GO WITH EVERYBODY? MAYPORT ROAD VISION, SURE, THAT THERE'S PUBLIC INPUT.
THIS IS FROM COMMISSIONER RING.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, WHEN YOU SAID STAY UP TO DATE, DID YOU MEAN FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT?
>> ADMINISTERING THE MAYPORT ROAD VISION IMPLEMENTATION MEANS SPECIFICALLY STAYING UP TO DATE WITH THE FDOT PROJECT.
>> ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC STILL HAS INPUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN FDOT PROJECT.
THAT SPECIFICALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE FDOT WHEN EVERYBODY'S SURE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE [INAUDIBLE].
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S [OVERLAPPING].
>> WELL, ACTUALLY '26-'27 STATED IN THAT PLAN.
>> THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET STARTED IN 2026.
>> WELL, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT '26, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT '24-'25.
>> SO THEN I WONDER IF THAT SHOULD BE TABLED FOR NEXT YEAR WHEN IT DOES HAPPEN.
MY THINKING IS THAT WHEN FDOT DOES START BEFORE THEY START BREAKING GROUND, THAT WE REACH OUT AND HAVE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC.
I KNOW YOU GUYS DID THIS IN 2018, BUT PROBABLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BREAK GROUND UNTIL 2026.
HOW MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN?
>> MY THOUGHT WAS BEFORE THEY BREAK GROUND, I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THAT CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE FDOT.
>> ARE YOU THINKING YOU'D LIKE TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT PRIORITY SETTING SESSION?
>> IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT?
>> WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO WAIT UNTIL 2025 BEFORE? THEY'RE COMING IN IN 2026 TO BREAK GROUND.
IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING ANY KIND OF PRELIMINARY STUDIES OR OUTREACH BEFORE THEN, THEN I'LL LET THE COMMISSION KNOW AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED.
WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE FUNDING IS NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL '26, SO THEY WON'T LET THE CONTRACT OUT UNTIL '26.
SO DON'T THINK THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IS THAT FDOT STAFF MIGHT DO A COUNT AND ALL IF THEY NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IN WHICH CASE THEY DO, I'LL MAKE SURE THEY'VE BROKEN.
>> ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKING FOR ABOUT THAT FOR VISION?
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BECAUSE WE'VE HAD VISION MAYPORT ROAD FOREVER.>> THAT WAS WHERE MY MAIN PART IS, IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO MAYPORT ROAD, THE BUILDINGS, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, RESTAURANT, ALL OF IT.
>> WHAT IS YOUR PARTICULAR VISION?
>> THIS IN PARTICULAR WAS THE FDOT VISION THAT I THINK IT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2018.
>> IT WAS QUITE A BIT AGO AND THEY HAD PUBLIC INPUT MEETINGS.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT COMING IN UNTIL 2026, I WOULD LIKE THE PEOPLE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON IT WITHIN THAT TIME.
BUT IF THE TIME FRAME IS NOT HAPPENING UNTIL 2026, THEN MAYBE THE PUBLIC [OVERLAPPING] FOR NEXT YEAR.
>> WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY'RE IN WORK.
WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIKE THE PLANS.
THE SAME THING IS HAPPENING ON PENMAN, NO ROUNDABOUT.
>> I'M GOING TO PUT THIS AS '25-'26.
>> SAME BUT TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
>> WELL, SO MAYBE IT CAN BE BROADENED.
MY SPECIFIC THOUGHT WAS FDOT SPECIFICALLY NOT JUST WHAT OUR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, CHANGING THE ROADS, MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT PROPOSITION IN MIND.
>> IF I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE FDOT AND GREENWAY PLAN.
>> THAT'S WHAT I SPECIFICALLY IN [OVERLAPPING].
>> THAT'S AN EASY AND TAKEAWAY FOR THE CITY MANAGER, DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PRIORITY.
I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE IT'S PROBABLY TIME TO RESTATE WHERE WE ARE AT ONE OF OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS SO THAT WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, AND THEN NEXT YEAR I THINK IT COULD BE A PRIVATE.
THIS ARE ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PLANNING.
ACCELERATE, THIS IS FROM OUR MAYOR.
ACCELERATE PHASES OF THE STORM WATER PLAN.
IN PARTICULAR, HOPKINS CREEK AND THE CULVERT AREA ON ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.
>> BUT THAT WAS JUST AN ADDITION TO IT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHERE MR. SWAN STANDS ON THAT.
I KNOW THAT HE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE CULVERT.
MY MAIN ISSUE IS I WOULD LIKE TO JUST REALLY PRESS, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TO REALLY TAKE IT UNDER HIS WING AND PRESS TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE WE HAVE THE NEXT DISASTER AT AQUATIC GARDENS.
>> YEAH. SO IS THIS SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS?
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THIS WAS COMMISSIONER RING.
SHE WOULD LIKE THAT THERE WOULD BE REGULAR UPDATES FOR THE COMMISSION ON PROJECT TIMELINES AND FINANCES.
I GUESS THAT'S REALLY MORE OF A REQUEST FROM THE COMMISSION THAN A PRIORITY, RIGHT?
>> IF I MAY MISS. STARTING WITH THE NEXT COMMISSION, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS DURING THE CITY MANAGER COMMENTS, IS I'M GOING TO BIFURCATE THE PUBLIC UTILITIES IN THE PUBLIC WORKS CIP PROJECTS.
SO THE FIRST COMMISSION MEETING OF THE MONTH WILL BE ONE, AND THEN THE SECOND COMMISSION MEETING OF THE MONTH WILL BE THE OTHERS.
AND WE'LL JUST GIVE YOU A ROLLING UPDATE OF WHERE THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE MORE THAN $100,000 ARE IN TERMS OF THEIR TIME LINE AND WHATEVER ISSUES WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE HAVING.
>> WELL, THAT'S UP TO YOU. I'M JUST TELLING YOU.
>> AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS COMMISSIONER RING, REDUCE THE USE OF CONSULTATION FIRMS AND EMPHASIZE GREATER USE OF STAFF EXPERTISE.
>> YES. I WASN'T SURE IF THAT BELONGED REALLY UNDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL PLANNING OR IF IT BELONGED IN THE FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY.
REDUCING THE USE OF THE CONSULTATION FIRMS AND REALLY TAPPING INTO OUR STAFF EXPERTISE.
>> THE GOAL THERE IS A COST SAVINGS, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO?
>> THAT ONE'S TOUGH. I'M NOT SURE I SEE THAT AS A PRIORITY, BUT I CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE EXACTLY WHAT COMMISSIONER RING IS GETTING AT.
I THINK DANIELLE SAID IT EARLIER, WE HAVE SOME VERY SMART PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
WE HAD GREAT COMMITTEES AND THERE ARE MANY IN THE CITY THAT THINK WE COULD MOVE MORE QUICKLY ON THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY IF WE DIDN'T ALWAYS RELY ON ANOTHER STUDY.
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>> ANOTHER STUDY, ANOTHER CONSULTATION, MORE MONEY.
>> IF YOU LOOK BACK THOUGH, FINANCIALLY WE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GRANTS IN GENERAL COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
WE'RE DOUBLE A CITY OF OUR SIZE TO THE NORTH.
TO TAP INTO THAT GRANT WRITING IS A SCIENCE.
IT REALLY IS. THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS OVER THE PAST, MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN DIG THEM OUT AND TAKE A LOOK, BUT WE'VE DONE WELL THERE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO CONTINUING TO GET THOSE GRANTS.
I GET THAT WE'RE ABOUT MOVING A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY WHERE SOMETHING APPEARS TO BE ACTIONABLE BASED ON OUR CURRENT NUMBER.
>> OKAY. SO YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MORE CONSULTATION FIRMS MORE THAN GRANT WRITING?
>> NO. YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING LET'S SEE WHERE WE CAN REDUCE THE USE OF CONSULTATION FIRMS TO SAVE ON TIME AND MONEY AND TAP INTO THE SOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE WITH STAFF.
>> EVEN IF IT MEANS TRAINING OR SENDING OUR STAFF TO TRAININGS.
>> THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM LEAVING THIS ON HERE BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO STAFF.
EVEN IF IT DOESN'T BECOME A PRIORITY, IT'S BEEN NOTED.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PLANNING?
>> BILL KNOWS THIS, HE'S IMPLEMENTED.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE COMMITTEES AT A REGULAR INTERVAL.
THAT'S UNDER REGULAR UPDATES FOR COMMISSION. I THINK IT'S QUARTERLY.
SOME OF THEM WE'LL SEE LATER, BUT THAT'S AN ADJUNCT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD THAT.
BUT PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> YEAH. SO ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THIS ONE, INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL PLANNING? NO. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE VOTING, JUST REMEMBER IT GOES THIS WAY.
THIS HEADING IS FOR THIS PAPER.
I GUESS YOU ALL ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB BECAUSE YOU ONLY CAME UP WITH TWO THINGS.
BOTH ACTUALLY ARE FROM COMMISSIONER RING, FILL THE VACANCY GAP IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE SECOND ONE IS RENOVATE THE LIFEGUARD STATION.
>> THE FIRST AND CHIEF WILLOW IS HERE TO COMMENT ON THAT. WHERE ARE WE? I KNOW IN BUDGET WE WERE BEHIND IN THE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS JUST BY FIVE.
>> THAT MAYBE THE WORK IS MORE.
SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE FIVE RECRUITS IN TRAINING, WHICH IS GREAT FOR US TO HAVE.
THAT'S THE MOST RECRUITS WE'VE EVER HAD IN TRANSITION AT A TIME.
WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES STILL, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO FILL THOSE THIS YEAR.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND OFFER MORE TIME AT THE ACADEMY TO FIND RECRUITS.
>> WILL WE BE RETIRING ANYONE THIS YEAR?
>> WE ARE NOT. AT THIS TIME WE'RE NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY RETIRING THIS YEAR.
WE KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED BUT WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB THROUGH TRAINING RIGHT NOW. WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> AND THE SECOND FOR RENOVATING.
>> MAY I COMMENT ON THAT. BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY TRYING IN PART A LITTLE VACANCY.
SO MAKING THAT PRIORITY BY ITSELF, I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT IF IT WAS COMBINED WITH PRIORITIZING CLOSING THE GAP ON OUR TOTAL POLICE OFFICERS AND ADDRESSING HOW WE MANAGE PARKING VIOLATIONS WITH OR WITHOUT POLICE OFFICERS.
TO THAT POINT, CHIEF, I THINK YOU HAD AN OPINION ON THIS, BUT IF NOT, I APOLOGIZE.
THE IDEA WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE OTHER THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOING TRAFFIC CITATIONS AND TRAFFIC AND PARKING MANAGEMENT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COMMENT?
>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER GOAL IF YOU'D LIKE TO STATE IT FOR ME.
>> BUT I THINK IT COULD BE COMBINED BECAUSE THE REASON IS HE NEEDS MORE POLICE OFFICERS TO DO ALL THE THINGS INCLUDING PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT.
IF HE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT, HE MIGHT SAY THAT HE'S NOT AS SHORT ON THE POLICE OFFICERS.
>> SO THE IDEA OF OUTSOURCING THAT THROUGH A COMPANY WHO WOULD DO EVERYTHING FROM THE ENFORCEMENT TO THE RECOVERY OF ANY IN BETWEEN IS AN IDEA THAT WORK FOR OTHER CITIES.
THEY USE IT BECAUSE IT'S EFFICIENT AS FAR AS THE USE OF MANPOWER ON CITY STAFF.
AND IT COMES IN AS COST NEUTRAL OR EVEN AS A BENEFIT, THE CITY TO GENERATE REVENUE.
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NOT THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH OUT THERE TO BE DONE.WE CAN'T POSSIBLY COVER THAT MANY AREAS OF THE CITY PARKING ENFORCEMENT WITH THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS WE HAVE DURING THE DAY.
IT'S TYPICALLY ABOUT FOUR ON A GOOD DAY.
BUT WE OUTSOURCED THAT, THAT'S CROSS MULTIPLIER FOR A VERY LOW COST TO THE CITY IF ANY AT ALL.
SO THAT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THE SAFETY.
>> SO WE JUST MODIFY THIS AND PUT, IS THAT OKAY?
>> COMMISSIONER WE'RE INTERESTED IN MODIFYING THAT.
>> TO CLOSE THE GAP ON THE POLICE OFFICER VACANCIES AND LOOK AT THE POSSIBLE OUTSOURCING OF PARKING.
>> SO MAYBE FILLING VACANCY GAP IN THE PT WHILE UTILIZING AN OUTSOURCING COMPANY FOR TRAFFIC PARKING VIOLATIONS?
>> FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT. YEAH.
>> BECAUSE THEN IF YOU'RE SAYING YOUR IDEA IS LIKE IF THERE'S FIVE VACANCIES.
YOU SAID FIVE OR THREE VACANCIES?
SO THREE VACANCIES BUT IF WE UTILIZE THE OUTSOURCE PARKING AND TRAFFIC WON'T THAT BRING US DOWN TO OR WOULD WE STILL NEED.
WOULD THERE STILL BE THREE VACANCIES? WOULD THERE BE TWO?
>> SO THE ASK FOR MANPOWER HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
THE ASK FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT FROM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY WERE RESPONSE FROM THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE VOICED OVER MANY YEARS, THAT THERE ARE EVER-INCREASING DEMANDS ON OUR STREETS FOR PARKING.
AS JACKSONVILLE GROWS, THE DESIRE AND BE SURE OBVIOUSLY TOO.
THE QUESTION IS CAN WE POLICE BETTER BY USING AN OUTSOURCED COMPANY TO PUT MORE PEOPLE AND MORE HOURS ON THE STREET, DIRECTED PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
MY ASK FOR MANPOWER REALLY TO KEEP UP WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF PROFESSIONAL IN THE POLICE SERVICE, AND OF COURSE THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS.
AGAIN, TO BALANCE THAT WORK-LIFE THAT WE SEE IN THE WORK FORCE TODAY.
MORE AND MORE OF OUR RECRUITS COMING IN ARE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT WORK-LIFE BALANCE WHICH HAS TO DO WITH TIME OFF, SAFE SIDE AND LEAVE.
THOSE REALLY ARE THE ONES THAT I HAVE MOVING TOWARDS THAT NUMBER OF GETTING BACK TO 34, AND EVENTUALLY HOPEFULLY 36, AND BALANCE OUT, TIME OFF MY EMPLOYEES WITHOUT HAVING TO REQUIRE OVERTIME TO COVER THEM ON THE STREET, WHICH IS WHERE THAT IMBALANCE WE'RE HEARING FROM OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS COME FROM, AND THE NUMBER OF HOURS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO WORK DURING THEIR DAYS OFF.
>> WHICH CAN HELP WITH YOUR TURN AROUND.
>. WE'RE DOING REALLY WELL RIGHT NOW.
WITHIN THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THEM MORE LONG TERM.
WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A TRADITIONAL GAP BETWEEN 5-10 YEARS, BUT OUR GOAL IS TO NARROW THAT GAP.
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF OLD PEOPLE BEING HANGING AROUND FOREVER, AND A FEW YOUTH FOLKS THAT ARE LEADING WITHIN THAT 5-10 YEARS RANK.
>> THE WAY THIS IS STATED RIGHT NOW, IF YOU CAN TELL THAT THIS THEN IS ATTACHED TO THIS, WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU ALL? DOES IT SEEM LIKE YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT, AND IT'S STATED REASONABLY?
>> IT DOES FOR ME, AND MY ONLY CONCERN FOR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AS DISCUSSED LAST YEAR, AND EVERY YEAR PRIOR IS, IN A FEW MINUTES WE'RE ONLY GOING TO GET SO MANY DOTS, AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE ON SO MANY PRIORITIES.
SO IF WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PARTIAL PRIORITIES, THEY MAY NOT GET ACTION.
>> YOU KNOW, WE FORMED THE STOP COMMITTEE TO TAKE WORK OFF OF US, TO TAKE WORK OFF OF THE POLICE, AND I THINK I KNOW CITY MANAGER, BILL KILLINGSWORTH HAS BEEN IN THE MEETINGS.
I'VE ONLY BEEN TO A COUPLE, AND I THINK THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE REAL CONNECTION IS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT SAFETY IN PRACTICAL PARKING, IT IS VOLUMINOUS.
LET ME ASK YOU THE FLAT UP QUESTION, HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING TO THE COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I WANT THAT COMMITTEE, IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR AND I WANT TO VALIDATE THEM, AND I WANT TO USE THEM TO FIGURE OUT ALL THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT PARKING SAFETY AND TRAFFIC.
HOW ARE WE PRIORITIZING WHAT WE FEED TO THEM SO THEY CAN HELP US, AND NOT JUST GET LOST IN THE WISHES OF THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE?
>> SURE, THROUGH THE MAYOR, COMMISSIONER.
I ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, THEY WERE IN THE READS ON EVERYTHING.
IN WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE, WHAT STAFF DID WAS WE PUT TOGETHER A WORK PLAN OVER THE LIFETIME OF
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THE ANTICIPATED COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND CREATED SPECIFIC WORK ITEMS THAT WORK TAKE ABOUT TWO MONTHS FOR EACH ITEM TO GET THROUGH.WE'RE DOING PARKING AND THEN WE'RE DOING SAFETY.
THE REASON WE BIFURCATED IS WE HAVE A GRANT THAT IS LOOKING AT OUR PUBLIC STREETS AND THE SAFETY STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE, AND PART OF THAT GRANT REQUIRES STEERING COMMITTEE, SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THE STOP COMMITTEE AS THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE CONSULTANTS WHO CAN HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BUT EVEN WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE DISCRETE ASKS OF THE COMMITTEE AT EACH MEETING, AND TO BRING SPECIFIC WORK TO THE COMMITTEE AT EACH MEETING.
WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE PARKING IS WE'RE BRINGING THEM DRAFT POLICIES, JUST AS A PLACE FOR THEM TO START A DISCUSSION AND FORMULATE IDEAS AROUND.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS SO FAR I THINK IT'S WORKING.
THEY HAVE THEIR FIRST 2.5 MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS SINCE WE STARTED THAT, THEY HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION ON THREE ITEMS WHICH I BELIEVE YOU WILL HAVE A START WHEN HE COMES AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, BECAUSE HE'S THE FIRST OF THE COMMITTEES THAT'S GOING TO REPORT.
HE'S GOING TO REPORT WHAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
WE HAVE A WORK PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMMITTEE TO ACHIEVE.
>> I JUST WANTED TO BUNDLE ALL AGAIN UNDER WITHOUT OVERWHELMING THEM, AND I DON'T HAVE TABLE PARTIES THAT CAN BE COVERED WITH ONE STOP. THAT'S DEFINITELY A PROBLEM.
>> IS THIS ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES TO LOOK AT OUTSOURCING?
>> YEAH. THEY HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED [OVERLAPPING].
>> BUT IF WE LEAVE THAT ON THEIR OUTSOURCED COMPANY FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT.
WE HAD ASKED THAT COMPANY WITHIN AND IT WAS TOO EXPENSIVE AND NEVER COMMUNICATED VERY WELL WITH.
>> WE SELF IDENTIFIED FOUR OR FIVE OF THESE COMMISSION PRIORITIES FOR LAST MEETING.
DO THEY GO AWAY, OR WHAT HAPPENS TO THE 2023? PURPOSELY I DIDN'T ADD SOME OF THESE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAD IT HERE.
>> YEAH. IT WAS MY EXPECTATION THAT YOU WOULD LOOK OVER LAST YEAR'S PRIORITIES AND SEE IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD STILL BE THIS YEAR'S PRIORITIES.
>> ALSO, YOU DO HAVE AT YOUR PLACES.
YOU HAVE THE PRIORITIES FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES COMMITTEE.
YEAH. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ADD, ANYTHING TO HEAR?
>> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON COMMISSIONER BOLE, BECAUSE I WAS GOING THROUGH THE SAME MENTAL EXERCISE.
I ADDED THE VERY FIRST ONE THAT I THINK I READ, I ADDED IT BECAUSE NOTHING HAPPENED IN THIS PAST MISSION HERE.
IF ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES WAS PARKWAY AND IT WAS ACTUALLY BEING WORKED, THEN I DID NOT ADD IT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
RIGHT. THAT GOES BACK TO THE DEFINITION OF PRIORITY.
THAT IF IT'S ALREADY ROLLING ALONG, THEN IT'S GOTTEN THE ATTENTION AND YOU JUST HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT ENERGY BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NEW.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? QUALITY OF LIFE, AND I FOUND THAT THIS ONE THINK OVERLAPS A BIT WITH, BASICALLY WELL, CERTAINLY ENVIRONMENT AND THEN ARTS, PARKS, THEY ALL KIND OF BLUR TOGETHER IN MANY WAYS.
HOWEVER, THIS WAS COMMISSIONER KELLY, ADOPT INTERDEPARTMENTAL APPROACH TO GETTING THE GOLD MEDAL OR THE GOLD CLASSIFICATION IT'S NOT A MEDAL, BUT THE GOLD THING FROM THE LEAGUE OF AMERICAN BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT A BIT OR DO YOU ALL KNOW IT?
>> I THOUGHT OF THE BIKE INITIATIVE AS OVERLAPPING MANY DEPARTMENT GOALS, AND IT OVERLAPS WITH THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN, IT OVERLAPS WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WITH CONNECTIONS.
IT OVERLAPS WITH THE COMMUNITY [INAUDIBLE] AND IT OVERLAPS WITH PARKS AND OUR DESIRED REST, AND IT OVERLAP PARKING.
IF WE COULD GET THE WHOLE CITY ON BICYCLES, THEN A LOT OF THINGS WOULD JUST AUTOMATICALLY.
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DECREASE PRESSURE ON PARKING AND INCREASE ALL THE OTHER GOODS.>> THERE IS ACTUALLY A GOLD AWARD OR GOLD LEVEL?
>> STANDARD. LET ME CHANGE THAT.
>> LOOK LIKE IT ALL REPEATS, YOU GOT ALL THESE THINGS.
>> LAST YEAR TO QUOTE, "IDENTIFY NEW OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE BIKE, E-BIKE, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND DEVELOPING STRATEGIES ACCORDINGLY.
ONE OF THESE WE RAN INTO WAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA BIKES.
I HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME, THE E-BIKE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A MAGIC WAND AND SAY, E-BIKES ARE GOING TO OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD, ETC, BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE WE CAN MOVE AS FAST AS THE STATE DOES.
>> THAT'S A GOOD ONE. I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
>> HOW MANY OF US HAVE JUST NEARLY HURT SOMEBODY ON AN E-BIKE, AND IT'S JUST TERRIFYING SOMETIMES.
>> I DIDN'T WRITE THAT ONE, BUT THAT ONE IS NEAR AND DEAR TO ME.
>> I TOTALLY GET WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLE IS SAYING ABOUT PREEMPTION BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN THEIR OWN STATUTES, BUT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULDN'T MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO TRY TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT DO NOT CONFLICT WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
>> YOU CAN PUBLICIZE IT, YOU CAN SAFETY, ETC.
>> YEAH, BUT IT'S A LITTLE NEBULOUS.
>> WELL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT E-BIKES HERE, AND JUST EXPLORE WHAT YOU CAN DO ABOUT E-BIKES?
>> IT ALMOST GOES BACK TO THE FIRST BULLET ABOUT INTERFACING WITH OTHER CITIES WITH JACKSONVILLE AND THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE SAYING YOU BACK UP [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU BUILT UP CALENDAR WITH TIME.
>> SO REGULATOR OR THE FACILITATOR.
WE HAVE THE WORK PLAN FOR THE PARKING GUIDE, AND THE WORK PLAN FOR THE SAFETY STUFF HAPPENS, IT COMES ON BOARD, SO THAT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE REPORT
>> IF YOU PARTICULARLY WANT E-BIKES THAT'S AN IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM.
>> WHAT'S THE WILL OF THE GROUP? WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD A THIRD BULLET ABOUT E- BIKES?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASSEMBLE IT BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT WAS JUST DROPPED, IT WASN'T DROPPED? [OVERLAPPING]
>> [OVERLAPPING] OTHER CITIES. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S CANDACE REMARK ABOUT THE GOAL PLAN.
WE COULD HAVE A GREAT PEDALING BICYCLE, BUT WHEN YOU SEE TWO 10-YEAR-OLDS ON E-BIKES RUN INTO PEOPLE.
>> IF I MAY, OPERATION IS TO PRIORITIZE E-BIKE ON OTHER SAFETY MEASURES.
PRIORITIZE [INAUDIBLE] SAFETY MEASURES.
THE CITY RESOURCES COMMITTED TO BLEND OUR NEEDS WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
SOMEBODY ELSE HAD A BETTER IDEA.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEFEAT THE FLORIDA STATUTES EVEN.
THERE'S A LARGE CONTINGENT OF US GOING [INAUDIBLE] BUY.
>> WELL ENOUGH TO VOTE ON IT? IF YOU WANT TO VOTE ON IT, YEAH.
THIS IS ALSO COMMISSIONER KELLY'S.
IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE BY IDENTIFYING GAPS IN ARTS AND REC PROGRAMMING AND MAKE A PLAN TO REMEDY THAT.
>> I HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR BUT I THINK IT MAY FALL UNDER FIRST PART, SO I'M NOT SURE IF I SHOULD LIST THAT THERE, AND I DID HAVE SOMETHING ELSE LISTED FOR THE 100 WEST FIRST STREET, BUT I WASN'T SURE [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW.
>> I DO HAVE BOTH OF THOSE, SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THEN, WE MAY WANT TO BACKTRACK AND DECIDE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE HERE OR THERE.
JUST SO YOU DON'T HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU HAVE TO PICK BETWEEN THEM.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR QUALITY OF LIFE?
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IF I HEAR ONE MORE PERSON SAY WE LIVE IN PARADISE, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.>> THE THEME OF ATLANTA BEACH [INAUDIBLE] QUALITY OF LIFE [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT REALLY DOES, YEAH. RESILIENCE?
>> I LIVE IN ATLANTA BEACH COUNTRY CLUB.
ABOUT HALF OF THE PEOPLE THERE COME FROM OTHER STATES.
THEY THINK THEY'VE DONE AND GONE TO HEAVEN. THEY REALLY DO.
>> YEAH, THE TREES ARE ALL PLANTED ON TOP OF OUR WATER LINES.
SO THEY WERE GOBBLING UP OUR WATER LINE.
>> TWO PAGES, IS THIS THE ONE PAGE FOR BRAZILIAN TEMPLATE?
>> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE. THE FIRST ONE, SO THIS WAS MAYOR'S REVIEW AND ADDRESS ISSUES, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, IMPERVIOUS CODES, REDEVELOPMENT, AND THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FROM THE CODES.
>> I SIMPLY BORROWED THAT FROM THE ESC.
>> NO. I DROPPED IT FOR A REASON.
I WANT TO ADDRESS STORM WATER UP AND DOWN.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO CONNECT THAT WITH THE OVERBUILDING.
THE OVERBUILDING IS A CODE ISSUE TO ME FOR SETBACKS AND A LOT COVERAGE AND SO ON, SO IT'S NOT THE SAME AS STORM WATER.
I THINK QUITE FRANKLY THAT WE'VE USED OUR STORM WATER POLICY TO ADDRESS OVER BUILDING.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT SEPARATED.
I TOOK OVER BUILDING OUT OF THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THE ESC OF THAT.
>> DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ABOUT OVERBUILDING LATER OR YOU TOOK IT OUT?
>> ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS ONE, CLARIFICATION, ANYTHING? NEXT ONE IS ALSO MAYOR.
CONTINUE FOCUS ON LEAD AND COMBINE OUR RESILIENCE PLAN WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE ACTION PLAN.
I WROTE IT DOWN, BUT I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT.
ARE THERE TWO PLANS AND WE JUST NEED TO STICK THEM TOGETHER?
>> YES. WE NEED TO WORDSMITH THEM AND PULL THEM TOGETHER AND BE CONSISTENT.
>> I THINK THAT IS ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME STRAIGHT FROM ENC; IS IT?
>> PRETTY MUCH, YEAH. I DON'T THINK I CHANGED ANY.
>> ANOTHER ONE FOR MAYOR MARSH, FRONT EROSION CONTROL WITHOUT WAITING FOR A NEW STUDY.
ESSENTIALLY, I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EROSION CONTROL AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PROHIBITED BY SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE.
>> WELL, BOARD OF ENGINEERS THEY COULD HAVE AN OPINION.
[OVERLAPPING] BUT IF WE CAN SATISFY OUR RISK, SAY THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING RISKY WITH THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE EROSION CONTROL IMMEDIATELY.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE CITIZENS THAT THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF YEARS OF DISCUSSION AND NO ACTION.
>> ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT THE OYSTER PROJECT HERE OR NO? BUT WHATEVER THE STRATEGY IS.
>> THERE IS NO NEED TO PIGEON HOLE, [OVERLAPPING] THING THERE'S OTHER STRATEGIES.
THERE'S TREES, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
>> IN ORDER TO HELP EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN BUY INTO THIS, HOW MANY MILES WE GOT OF INTER-COASTAL? THREE, FOUR MILES IN THE CITY? I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE GO TACKLE THREE OR FOUR MILES.
WE NEED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE CITIZEN ASKED FOR EARLIER THIS EVENING.
THAT IS TAKE A COUPLE OF TEST AREAS.
LET'S GET STARTED, WE CAN STILL BE GOING FOR GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS TO HELP US WITH STUDIES AND WHATEVER ELSE WE NEED TO DO.
BUT WE COULD BE TAKING ACTION TODAY AND THEN IN 12 MONTHS WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK BACK AND SEE WHETHER WE WERE EFFECTIVE SO TODAY VERSUS TOMORROW.
>> THIS ONE IS REALLY ABOUT URGENCY; ISN'T IT? THIS IS COMMISSIONER RING MARSH RE-NOURISHMENT, THE 2030 COMP PLAN MAKE MARSH A PRIORITY.
COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT?
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SET A GOAL ON THE 2030 COMP PLAN THAT DESIGNATES THE MARSH AS A PRIORITY, SPECIFICALLY MARSH RE-NOURISHMENT AND ITS PROTECTION.
I FEEL LIKE MINE AND MAYORS COULD GO TOGETHER COMBINED SINCE THEY'RE ABOUT THE MARSH,
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SO MARSH RE-NOURISHMENT AND PROTECTION AND THEN COLIN ADDING A MARSHAL PRIORITY TO THE 2030 COMP PLAN AS WELL AS MARSH FUND CORROSION CONTROL [INAUDIBLE] SET.>> I WOULD READ. QUESTION MR. [INAUDIBLE] .
WHAT'S OUR FREQUENCY OF UPDATED THE CONFERENCE PLAN? YEAH, EXACTLY. SO THEN IT WOULD BE THE NEXT, I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO PIECEMEAL ALL THE TIME, SO.
>> IN TERMS OF GIVING A POLICY INTO THE COMPLAINT, THERE'S STILL TIME BECAUSE THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE WORKSHOPS ON HAVEN'T GONE TO CDV YET.
SO THERE'S STILL TIME TO PUT SOMETHING IN.
EVEN IF IT WAS SCHEDULED TO GO TO CDV, THEY COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND INSERT ONE THERE, THE STAFF COULD CRAFT.
I THINK AMANDA IS WORKING ON SUCH A POLICY RIGHT NOW, SO AS I CAME OUT OF ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS.
>> I WANT TO SUGGEST THAT AMANDA OR THE CITY IS NOT ALREADY DOING THAT.
I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RING THAT WE COULD LOOK HAPPY BETTER AND BE EFFECTIVE IN THAT ONE SPACE.
>> IT'S THE SAME. OH, THIS IS FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY SET GOALS TO DEMONSTRATE A COMMITMENT TO ENERGY CONSERVATION, DECREASING SOLID WASTE, PERMEABILITY STANDARDS, GREEN BUILDING TECHNIQUES AND STORMWATER RETENTION.
>> IT'S NOT OUR PART OF THE CITY.
MANY OF THOSE THINGS WE CAN'T FORCE OTHER PEOPLE TO DO, BUT WE CAN SET THE EXAMPLE BY DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
>> I'M GOING TO PUT A PARENTHESIS THERE THEN.
>> BUT I WANT TO ADD TO THAT, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY THAT YOU CAN'T FORCE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THAT.
I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS TO DO JUST AS WE DID THIS PAST YEAR.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T HIT THE 15% REDUCTION IN WATER USAGE, I THINK MR. HOGAN SAID 7%, FIVE OR SEVEN? THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME. I MEAN, EVERY YEAR IT GOES UP.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO TAG ONTO WHAT COMMISSIONER KELLY IS SAYING THERE.
BUT IT WOULD STILL BE ASPIRATIONAL TO ENGAGE THE CITIZENS WITH OUR GOALS, WHETHER WE HIT THE ACTUAL NUMBER CORRECTION WOULD BE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> IT'S A CATHEDRAL. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
>> THAT ACTUALLY IS THE LEAD PLAN?
>> THE OTHER ONE SAYS CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT'S ALL STUFF RIGHT THERE.
>> WELL, SHOULD IT BE A SEPARATE THING?
>> WELL, I DIDN'T MAKE A LEAD SPECIFIC FOR, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THROUGH IN RECORD FOR FIVE YEARS WORK.
>> IT'S PRETTY EMBEDDED AT THIS POINT.
>> WE ONLY HAVE 10 DOTS WE CONDENSE THE TWO?
>> JUST A QUESTION. WHO'S NOT FOR THAT? I GET THAT.
BUT SOME OF THESE COST MONEY, SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THE DOLLARS, WHERE WE WANT TO PUT IN THE BUDGET. I LIKE ALL THIS.
>> BUT WHEN HE COMES DOWN TO BUDGET TIME THOSE THINGS COULD COST MONEY, WHAT DO WE WANT TO BUDGET?
>> YOU SEE, KEEPING THIS AS A VOTEABLE ITEM, BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE TO DRIVE AN EXPENDITURE? WELL, I ALWAYS SAY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A FAMILY, DON'T LOOK AT WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT LIFE.
LOOK AT HOW THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY REALLY BELIEVE ABOUT LIFE.
>> BILL'S COMMITMENT TO SETTING GOALS BASED ON THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO DISSEMINATE AMONG ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE, THAT ARE DIVIDED. [INAUDIBLE]
>> COMMISSIONER KELLY ALSO ASKED REDUCE USE OF PESTICIDES, MANAGE STORM WATER.
WAIT A MINUTE, IS THAT THE SAME AS THIS, MANAGE STORM WATER?
>> YEAH. IT WAS BASED ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S BULLETS.
>> I ACTUALLY ADDED THAT IN ON MY BSC EARLIER.
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IT'S BEEN THERE, YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT.KEVIN [OVERLAPPING] PESTICIDES.
>> [OVERLAPPING] STORM WATER MANAGEMENT, THE PURPOSE CODES, REDEVELOPMENT.
>> WE ALL ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO [OVERLAPPING] WATER FOCUS BY OUR CITY IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE WILL DO IN THIS NEXT YEAR.
>> WELL, SO OTHER THAN PESTICIDES, THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED.
MARITIME FOREST HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN MENTIONED YET.
>> YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT MANAGE THE STORM WATER? LET'S DO THAT.
>> IT'S NOT VERY EXPRESS. SINCE THE VISION PLAN IS WE NEED STREETS HERE, [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE GOT TO HAVE THE FOREST IN THERE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANY MORE? THESE ARE RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY.
>> I JUST WANT TO BRING IT UP AND IT'S NOT SAFE.
THE VERY FIRST ONE ON THE ESC PRIORITIES, I DIDN'T PUT IT UP THERE BUT WE SHOULD AT LEAST HAVE DISCUSSION, CREATE A POSITION OR A DESIGNATED EMPLOYEE TO BE A DEDICATED SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER FOR THE CITY.
IT ALSO SOMEWHERE TALKED ABOUT MAKING, ON ITEM 3, EVERYONE'S JOB DESCRIPTION WOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES AND BE TIED ON THE ANNUAL PERFORMANCE REVIEWS TO THEIR INVOLVEMENT IN THAT.
I'M LESS LIKELY TO EMBRACE NUMBER 3 BECAUSE THAT GETS REALLY HARD.
NOT EVERYBODY REALLY HAS A JOB THAT YOU SHOULD BE MEASURING BASED ON RESILIENCE.
HOWEVER, IF I HEARD ONE THING LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THE ESC RECENTLY, AND THAT IS THAT OUR CITY GOVERNMENT TENDS TO OPERATE IN SILOS AND THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE NOT ALWAYS INSISTENTLY DONE ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS AND SO ON.
I THINK HAVING ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE AND DESIGNATED AS THAT PERSON PROBABLY MAKES SENSE.
THE ONLY ISSUE FOR ME IS WHETHER IT'S A NEW POSITION OR WHETHER IT'S AN EXISTING POSITION THAT NOW HAS THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT I OPENED IT UP ESPECIALLY.
IN FACT, I TALKED TO BILL ABOUT THIS.
WHEN WAS IT? LAST WEEK'S MEETING.
TO ME, THIS IS A COLLATERAL DUTY OF SOMEBODY ON THE STAFF BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S THE ONE FOCAL POINT, THE ONE PERSON WHERE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE PLANNER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE BUDGET, YOU COME TO THAT PERSON AND GO, THIS IS THE ISSUE, WHOEVER THAT YOU DESIGNATE.
I'M A STRONG CITY MANAGER, FORMER GOVERNMENT GUY, SO I WOULD GO TO YOU, WHO'S THE BEST PINPOINT, THE PLACE ON THE STAFF, AND, DO WE NEED A NEW PERSON? MAYBE NOT, MAYBE WE DO.
BUT I WOULD GO TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION OF WHO THAT IS AS A COLLATERAL DUTY OR A MAJOR DUTY.
>> THROUGH THE MAYOR TO THE COMMISSIONER.
IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR MY RECOMMENDATION REVIEW TO DESIGNATED EMPLOYEE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE ME A POSITION THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE DEPARTMENT AND I THINK RESILIENCE IS IMPORTANT BUT THE CITY'S PRETTY THIN.
TO HAVE SOMEBODY DEDICATED TO THAT WHEN ESSENTIALLY IN A LOT OF WAYS I WOULD ARGUE THAT IS STEVE'S, ONE OF HIS PRIMARY FUNCTIONS, THAT'S WHERE HE'S PUSHING GRANTS, THAT'S WHERE HE'S MANAGING STORM WATER.
IF YOU WANT ME TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY, I'LL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT, SEE, WHO'S THE MOST OF THE DESIGNATE?
IT'S NOT LOST ON ME THAT YOU'RE PRETTY THIN AND CERTAIN PEOPLE, PROBABLY ALL THREE THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT MIGHT DO THAT ARE PRETTY BUSY SO I WOULD NOT FAVOR DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER AS TO WHO THIS PERSON WOULD BE BUT I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER AND [OVERLAPPING].
>> YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A BULLET?
BECAUSE THAT IS DESIGNATED AN EMPLOYEE TO BE A DEDICATED CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE OFFICER FOR THE CITY.
>> DID THAT GO INTO CITY SERVICES?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES.
>> IT MIGHT. WELL, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SQUISHY, PAPER TO PAPER.
BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE ALL UP THERE. COMMISSIONER WATERS.
>> NOT A VOLUNTEER [INAUDIBLE].
SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE EXCITED, ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THIS, I THOUGHT GOING TO GO TO EMPLOYEE.
>> WELL, HERE'S WHAT, AGAIN, MY REASONING FOR SAYING GO TO AN EMPLOYEE IS BECAUSE WHAT I'VE
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HEARD IS THE CHALLENGES OF GETTING THINGS DONE WHEN THIS DEPARTMENT MAY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON BUT THIS DEPARTMENT DOESN'T AND THERE ISN'T A CITY EMPLOYEE RESPONSIBLE.THAT EMPLOYEE, QUITE FRANKLY, COULD BE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, MR. KILLINGSWORTH, BECAUSE HE HAS A BACKGROUND THAT REALLY FAVORS DOING THAT.
WE DO PUT A DOT ON THIS AND VOTE ON IT TODAY, YOU COULD BE THAT PERSON, I'M SORRY.
>> OR IT COULD BE HIM OR SOMEBODY WHO WORKS DIRECTLY FOR HIM.
>> I KNOW WHAT HE'S SAYING THERE BECAUSE HE PICKS UP THE PHONE AND SAYS, DO THIS.
>> BUT TO FULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF IT'S A CITIZEN, A CITIZEN CAN VERY EASILY BE STONEWALLED BY THE CITY.
WE REALLY NEED THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, PULL IT ALL TOGETHER, AND TRY TO CROSS THE LINES AND MAKE SURE THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE VERY STRONG TO GET THINGS DONE THAT THE CITIZENS WANT.
>> SAY DESIGNATE EMPLOYEE AS CHIEF FOR RESILIENCY OFFICER.
I THINK YOU HAD A COUPLE MORE WORDS IN THERE.
YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER KELLY, SOME OF THESE CAN SQUISH BACK AND FORTH.
THIS IS FROM OUR MAYOR, DEVELOP A CUSTOMER CENTRIC SERVICE STRATEGY WITH MEASURABLE GOALS, CONSISTENT FEEDBACK, WHERE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE END GOAL.
>> ONE AND MR. HOGAN CAMP WAS VERY CLEAR.
DOES NOT DISSUADE ME FROM THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.
BY THE WAY, THAT ACTUALLY TIES INTO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I HAD ON ANOTHER SHEET LOOK AT THE OUTSOURCING OF PERMITTING AND INSPECTION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
IS NOT THAT I WISH TO DO THAT BUT MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE GET THIS CITY TO A PERFORMANCE LEVEL THAT IS BETTER THAN OTHER CITIES, NOT EQUAL OR LESS? IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF OUR CITIZENS AS PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO NAVIGATE OUR CODES AND PERMITTING PROCESS AND SO ON.
THEN WITH OUR LAYERS OF STORM WATER POLICY AND SOON. IT'S JUST HARD.
THAT DROVE THE OTHER ONE BUT THESE ARE THE CUSTOMER, I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY SO THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT CUSTOMER CENTRIC, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE, I'M TALKING ABOUT PROCESSES WHICH WERE ALREADY IN DEVELOPMENT ON ELECTRONIC.
YOU CAN DO MORE THINGS ELECTRONICALLY, THE SERVICE LEVEL GOES UP AND THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE GOES UP.
WE REALLY SHOULD NOT DROP THIS ONE AND I MAKE AN IMPASSIONED PLEA TONIGHT THAT IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR ANYTHING ELSE, I CAN USE MY HAND ON TODAY, VOTE FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE AS I THINK MR. KILLINGSWORTH SAID IT EARLIER, WE'VE LITERALLY HAD THREE CITY MANAGERS THIS PAST YEAR.
IT'S NO WONDER WE DIDN'T GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT DONE.
THAT REALLY TAKES A STRONG LEADER.
IT DID TAKE SEVERAL YEARS TO GET WHERE I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO GO BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY FOCUSED ON THE PROCESSES, THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, AND THAT WILL RESULT IN BETTER CUSTOMER SABOTAGE.
>> CAN I ADD THE WORD PROCESSES HERE? OR ELECTRONICS OR SOMETHING SO IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAUSAGE MAKING ITSELF?
ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ONE? A NO-BRAINER.
YES. WELL, ATLANTIC BEACH IS CHANGING AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN ATLANTIC BEACH WHO HAVE FOUNDED VERY SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES AND HAVE DONE VERY HIGH-LEVEL WORK, AND THIS CAN'T BE THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN THE 1970S, IT JUST CAN'T BE.
THIS IS FROM COMMISSIONER RING, CUSTOMER SERVICE AND FEEDBACK THROUGH SURVEYS, USE OF QR CODES, AND WEB PAGE UPDATES, LET'S SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
>> YEAH, I COMBINED SOME OF MY OWN THOUGHTS ALONG WITH PARKS RECOMMENDATION.
THERE'S THIS MORE TAILORED TO THE PARKS AND RECS.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT BELONGS ON THAT ONE, BUT IT WAS HAVING TO DO WITH COMMUNICATIONS, DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING A STRATEGY,
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AND TO ENSURE THAT RESIDENTS ARE FULLY AWARE OF THE ARTS, RECREATION, CULTURE, AMENITIES, AND PROGRAMMING AVAILABLE TO THEM, WHERE TO FIND THEM, AND WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE OFFERED, DEVELOP, AND IMPLEMENT TO ENSURE RESIDENTS ARE FULLY AWARE OF THE ARTS THROUGH QR CODE, SIGNAGE TO SEE STYLE MAP, PARKS, ETC.BUT I THINK THAT BELONGS MORE ON THE PARKS AND THE REC WHICH IS THE NEXT SECTION HERE.
BUT WHAT I WANTED TO LIST AS FAR AS CITY SERVICES GO IS I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL THE PARKS MASTER PLAN INITIATIVE TO GET THE FEEDBACK NOT JUST THROUGH TOWN HALLS BUT QR CODES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTSIDE EACH PARK.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS A GREAT STRATEGY.
MAYBE I DON'T NEED THIS OR IT'S ADDED TO THE PARK SECTION BECAUSE THE STRATEGY, THE POLICY, MAYBE SHOULD BE CHANGED WHICH IS ENCOMPASSED IN MAYOR FORD'S PETITION.
THAT MAKES SENSE? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO [INAUDIBLE].
>> IT'S IN BETWEEN THIS AND THE ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT AND FOR PARKS.
>> IT KIND OF OVERLAPS BOTH OF THOSE.
>> BUT LET'S GET TO PARKS AND THEN WE'LL SORT IT OUT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE THREE THINGS THAT SAY THE SAME THING, AND THEN YOU'RE STUCK TRYING TO PICK WHICH ONE OF THEM SAYS THE BEST, AND THEN IT DOESN'T GET ENOUGH VOTES.
>> I'M THINKING ASIDE, IT'S NOT JUST FOR PARKS AND RECS, BUT IT'S THROUGHOUT.
>> UPDATING THE WEB PAGE AND MAKING IT MORE USER-FRIENDLY.
I KNOW ARTS SPECIFIED IT, BUT I THINK IT COULD BE UTILIZED THROUGHOUT.
>> I'M GOING TO PUT THROUGHOUT.
>> THAT'S THE PROCESS I EXPECTED WE WOULD FOLLOW TO DETERMINE USAGE OF 100 BERTH.
WHY DO WE WANT TO SEE HERE? IF WE BUILT THIS, WOULD YOU COME?
>> THAT ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF MINE.
I THINK I'M GOING TO SEE IT IN THE NEXT ONE HAVING TO DO WITH 100 BERTHS WEST STRAIGHT.
>> YOU ALL COULD TELL ME IF YOU THINK IT'S A GOAL OR IS SOMEWHERE TO DECIDE AND THAT IS, DO WE WANT TO READDRESS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE DEGREE TO WHICH WE ENFORCE SPECIFIC CODES? DO WE WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT?
>> THAT CAME UP LAST YEAR, RIGHT?
>> IT'S PERCOLATED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
>> I THINK KEVIN HAD JUST SHARED ON THAT.
THAT WAS ONE OF OUR FORMER PRIORITIES.
DID YOU SAY THAT WE WERE TO VOTE ON THAT ONE, KEVIN? [LAUGHTER] IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE FULL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
>> YEAH, BUT YOU KNOW, [OVERLAPPING].
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE CITIZEN [OVERLAPPING].
>> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. THE CITIZENS WOULD WANT US TO PROWL THE STREETS LOOKING FOR VIOLATIONS AS OPPOSED TO BEING COMPLAINT-DRIVEN.
>> IF I MAY, SO WE SPECIFICALLY PUT THAT ITEM ON THE TOWN HALL AS AN AGENDA ITEM.
WE ONLY HAVE, I THINK, ONE PERSON COME AND SPEAK, AND THEY CAME AND SPOKE FOR LEAVING IT THE WAY IT DID.
THAT WAS KIND OF A TEST THAT IF WE HAD 40 PEOPLE COME UP AND SAY, YOU NEED TO ENFORCE THIS ITEM, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE THE POLICY.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A TURNOUT ON CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE PERSON WHO DID IT SAID LEAVE THE SYSTEM STATUS QUO.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO RELY ON A VOTE OF ONE CITIZEN.
I THINK I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
I DO THINK IT'S WORTHY OF PUTTING UP THERE.
WE STILL GET TO VOTE IN A FEW MINUTES [OVERLAPPING].
I THINK WE NEED TO ASK OR WE NEED TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT A CODE OF ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM THAT'S BASED ON COLD COMPLAINTS PREDOMINANTLY.
IF I CAN JUST DELINEATE THE ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY WE START WITH THE ISSUE OF FAIRNESS.
BECAUSE WHAT WE KNOW IS WHEN YOU DO A COMPLAINT-DRIVEN, YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE OFFENDER IS DOING THE SAME THING AND NOT BEING CITED BECAUSE THERE WAS NO COMPLAINT.
SO IT'S A THING OF FAIRNESS, BUT IT'S ALSO MY OTHER POINT ON THAT.
>> NEIGHBORS AGAINST NEIGHBORS.
>> THANK YOU. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT WAS ON MY MIND? [OVERLAPPING] OUR SYSTEM RIGHT NOW IS YOU HAVE TO RAT OUT YOUR NEIGHBOR.
SO IS THAT AN EFFECTIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS? BY THE WAY, FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AWARE, THE STATE OF FLORIDA PASSED LEGISLATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT YOU MUST, AS A CITY, DISCLOSE WHO MADE THE COMPLAINT.
A FEW YEARS BACK, YOU COULD RAT OUT YOUR NEIGHBOR WITHOUT ANYBODY
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SAYING IT WAS MISS LINEAR THAT DID THAT.>> BUT ALSO I THINK ON THE WAY TO THE OFFENSE OR WHATEVER, IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT'S BLATANT.
BUT MY POINT IS THIS IS THE GUY TO ME THAT SETS THE TONE, THE PRIORITIES, THE METHOD AND GIVES THE FRAMEWORK AND THE LEADERSHIP SO THAT WE ARE FAIR, WE'RE EQUITABLE, WE'RE NOT OVERREACTIVE, WE'RE NOT UNDER-REACTIVE BECAUSE HE HAS THE DAY TO DAY OF WHAT THE CITY'S DOING.
>> COMMISSIONER BOLE, I WON'T DISAGREE.
WE HAVE A NEW SHERIFF IN NOW, MR. KILLINGSWORTH, AND HE HAS TIME IN FRONT OF HIM TO SHOW WHAT HE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS MORE MORE FAIR.
I DO NOT THINK I HAVE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD IS NOT EQUITABLE TODAY.
>> ANOTHER THING AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PITTING NEIGHBORS AGAINST NEIGHBORS, AND THAT'S HOW THE CODE VIOLATIONS ARE FOUND.
THE OTHER IDEA HERE IS DO WE HAVE CODES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE? AS WE'RE LOOKING AT REVISING OR REVISITING THE CHAPTER 24 OF SOME OF THOSE REGULATIONS, ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT TOO? ARE WE GOING TO KEEP CODES IN THERE THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO? IT'S A LITTLE DEEPER THAN JUST HOW WE ENFORCE THE CODE I THINK IS THE PROBLEM.
>> WELL, FOR THE SEVEN YEARS I'VE BEEN UP THERE, I'VE ALWAYS ASKED HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENFORCE THAT IF WE PUT IN AN ORDINANCE.
SOMETIMES THE ANSWER IS YOU CAN'T.
WE'VE GOT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT WE CAN'T ENFORCE BECAUSE WE CAN'T INSPECT.
WE CAN'T LOOK OVER THE FENCE BECAUSE IT'S TALLER.
>> WE SHOULDN'T USE DRONES TO LOOK OVER PEOPLE.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD USE DRONES WITH NOTICE.
NEXT THURSDAY WE'RE GOING TO FLY OVER YOUR PROPERTY AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR X, Y, AND Z.
>> BEFORE I GO TO COMMISSIONER WATERS, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN DISCUSSION IF WE ACTUALLY VOTED ON REVIEW OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE YOU COULD MAKE THE CASE TO USE THE DRONES.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHETHER YOU GOT NOTICE OR NOT, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
COMMISSIONER WATERS, ARE YOU GOOD?
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO PUT THIS UP? REVIEW CODE ENFORCEMENT STRATEGIES.
CODE ENFORCEMENT. REVIEW CODE ENFORCEMENT.
>> I DON'T THINK STRATEGIES REVIEW [OVERLAPPING] CODE ENFORCEMENT, WELL, YOU COULD LEAVE THIS AT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICIES OR POTENTIAL CHANGE.
>> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME THING AS IF WE'RE GOING TO EMPHASIZE PARKING VIOLATIONS, ARE WE GOING TO NAZI AROUND THE CITY LOOKING FOR VIOLATIONS TO WRITE?
>> WELL, THE ANSWER IS AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD AN OUTSIDE VENDOR THAT WAS HANDLING ENFORCEMENT OF OUR PARKING, THEN, YES, THEY WOULD BE LOOKING FOR PARKING VIOLATIONS.
I WOULDN'T AND OUR CITY STAFF WOULDN'T, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE JOB OF THE VENDORS.
>> DO WE WANT TO BE THE PARKING NAZI CITY?
>> WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. [OVERLAPPING]
>> MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN TELL US THAT.
>> ONE WAY YOU COULD TIE THESE ALL TOGETHER IS YOU GO TO BILL HERE AND YOU SAY OUR PRIORITY IS FAIRNESS, RESILIENCY, YOU TIE THAT INTO IT.
IF IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT OR SOMETHING THAT IS PREMIER SURFACE, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU TIE THAT BACK IN AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO ANNOTATE HERE.
BILL, I WANT YOU TO EXECUTE THAT WITH THE IDEA OF FAIRNESS AND THE CITY BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE AND MAYOR YOU SAID DRONE AND WHATEVER THE SENTENCE THAT'LL COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU.
[OVERLAPPING] MY POINT IS THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO DO NOT WANT TO LOOK UP AND THE CITY DRONE IS LOOKING IN THEIR BACKYARD.
>> BUT ANYWAY, I JUST THINK IT'S A FAIRNESS ISSUE, A PRIORITY ISSUE, AND TELL BILL WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, AND LET HIM GO FOR IT.
>> WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, COMMISSIONER BOLE, THAT THIS ISN'T A PRIORITY, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD JUST DELEGATE OUT TO US [OVERLAPPING]
PUT A DOT BY IT IF YOU THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.
IF YOU DON'T, THEN GUESS WHAT? BILL'S ON THE HOOK SOMEDAY TO STAND UP HERE AND EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HE'S DOING.
>> BECAUSE REMEMBER, IT'S PARTICULAR, UNUSUAL, AND SIGNIFICANT, HE'S ALREADY MANAGING THIS [INAUDIBLE].
THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO PUT IT OUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> I WOULD NOT DISAGREE WITH YOU.
>> GOOD. LET'S LEAVE IT UP THERE AND SEE WHETHER [OVERLAPPING].
>> DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER YOU ARE CURRENTLY
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MANAGING IT OR YOU WOULD LIKE A MANDATE TO MANAGE IT? STAFF IS CURRENTLY MANAGING IT [OVERLAPPING].I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT EVERYTHING IS COMPLAINT-DRIVEN.
STAFF DRIVES BY AND BE A PUBLIC SAFETY. THEY STOP ON-SITE.
BUT FOR THINGS THAT ARE LARGELY AESTHETIC, BUT IN THE CODE, THOSE ARE COMPLAINT-DRIVEN.
>> SOME OF THOSE QUITE FRANKLY, THERE'S REPERCUSSIONS.
THE ONE THAT COMES UP PRETTY FREQUENTLY IS NOT IN YOUR PARKING IN YOUR DRIVE.
>> BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE COMPLAINT WAS COMING FROM, ROYAL PALM.
IF YOU LOOK AT ROYAL PALM DRIVE, THAT'S A STREET WHICH THE CITY SAID THIS IS A GATEWAY STREET, SO YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET.
THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS BUILT IN THE '50S WHEN PEOPLE MAY HAVE HAD ONE CAR, AND NOW IT'S 2024, AND IF YOU HAVE A TEENAGER HE HAS OR SHE HAS A CAR.
IF YOU HAVE TWO TEENAGERS, THAT'S TWO CARS.
YOUR HUSBAND AND WIFE PROBABLY BOTH WORK.
IF YOU GOT A HUSBAND AND A WIFE, AND TWO KIDS AND A DOG, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR CARS.
ME, PERSONALLY, I HAVE A CJ7 THAT I OWNED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THAT'S SITTING IN THE GARAGE.
THE QUESTION COMES UP WHERE, IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS URBAN FORM WOULD THESE CARS PAR? WE CAN ENFORCE IT, AND WE CAN ENFORCE IT STRICTLY.
BUT THEN WHAT WE DO IS YOU'RE PUSHING THROUGH THE STREET, SO THEN WE ENFORCE THAT.
THEN WE PUSH THEM TO THE PERMITTING.
ACTUALLY, WE CAN PUSH THEM IN THE YARD AND THEY GET ANOTHER TWO.
THEN WE PUSH THEM TO PERMITTING THEN THEY COME IN AND NOW THEY WANT TO INCREASE THE TARGETED SERVICE.
SOME OF THEM MAY ALREADY BE AT 45.
THEN IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF WHAT'S THE LESSER EVIL AND DO WE WANT TO CERTAINLY ENFORCE THIS.
I DON'T THINK STAFF HAS A POSITION ON IT.
BUT IT BECOMES A WHAT'S SENSIBLE IN THIS SITUATION.
>> I AGREE WITH IT. I HAVE TO TALK WITH THE MAYOR.
I THINK THAT POINTS OUT THAT SOME OF OUR CODES ARE OUTDATED.
MAYBE THE OFFSHOOT OF THIS REVIEW IS NOT AS MUCH ABOUT ENFORCEMENT, BUT IT'S ABOUT GETTING CURRENT. MR. KILLINGSWORTH.
IF YOU LOOK AT ROYAL PALM, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT, 50, 60, 70 YEARS OF BLAMING ON WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT EACH TO DO A [INAUDIBLE] IF WE COULD JUST CONSOLIDATE THAT AND YOU GUYS GET A SHOT AT PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
>> LET ME BE CLEAR ON SOMETHING FOR MY SHARE IN ONE OF FIVE, BUT I DON'T EXPECT THAT WE REALLY DIVE INTO THAT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET PERFECT.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT GETTING PERFECT AND BEATING UP PEOPLE IN CITY HALL OR ON THE COMMISSION FOR NOT BEING PERFECT.
BUT 70 YEARS LATER, MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOME CODE REVISIONS.
>> THAT'S SAYING IDENTIFY OUTDATED POLICIES AND CODES.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO PUT IN CITY SERVICES?
>> BEFORE YOU LEAVE THAT, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING.
I RECEIVED A COMMUNICATION TODAY THAT LEAVES AND IS ALSO FROM SUZANNE PARKER, ONE OF OUR CITIZENS, AND I THINK IT MIGHT FIT UNDER CITY SERVICES.
BUT ANYWAYS, ONE OF THE REQUESTS WAS MORE STREET PAVING, AND SO I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THAT NOW.
I'M NOT GOING TO ASK IF WE PUT PRIORITY ON THAT.
WE ALREADY HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET.
WE COULD, OF COURSE, AS COMMISSIONERS AGREE NEXT YEAR TO INCREASE THAT PORTION IN THE BUDGET.
BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING].
>> ABOUT FIXING THE STREETS IN BEACH AVENUE.
WELL, BEACH AVENUE WAS ONE EXAMPLE AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE PRETTY BAD.
MR. KILLINGSWORTH, I DON'T THINK YOU INITIATED IT, MAYBE YOU DID.
BUT YOU HAVE A REPORT THAT HAS GIVEN A NUMBER RANKING TO ALL OF OUR STREETS.
SOME OF OUR STREETS THAT ARE PRETTY LONG, THAT NUMBER RANKING IS SEGREGATED BY SEGMENT.
WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE A WRITTEN PLAN, IT'S MULTI-PAGE OF THE ORDER OF REPAVING FOR OUR STREETS BASED ON [OVERLAPPING].
THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT TO DO THERE IS TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO ACTUALLY PUT MORE OF OUR BUDGET TOWARDS THAT.
SO I RESPECTFULLY AM NOT GOING TO ADD THAT, BUT I WANT SUZANNE PARKER TO KNOW THAT IT IS NOTED.
>> WE ACTUALLY PAID MORE LAST YEAR THAN WE HAD BUDGET.
REMEMBER WE MOVED [OVERLAPPING].
>> WE MOVED SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND.
HE DOES THAT SURVEY AND HE'S GOT A TECHNICAL
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MAINTENANCE ON HOW OUT TO DECIDE WHICH ROAD.SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE BEACH FALLS ON THE LIST.
>> WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING IS BEACH IS SOME SEGMENTS THAT ARE 30, SOME SEGMENTS THAT ARE FIVE.
BEACH IS NOT ONE DECISION, BUT ONE NUMBER.
>> PARKS, RECREATION, ARTS AND CULTURE.
FIRST ONE CAME FROM THE MAYOR, UPGRADE THE BALLPARK AT JACK RUSSELL WITH SYNTHETIC TURF.
WHAT DID YOU CALL IT, ARTIFICIAL TURF? NO. WHAT DID YOU CALL IT?
>> I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM OUR BACKYARD.
I LEARNED THAT THE TERM IS SYNTHETIC TURF AND NOT ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE IT'S NOT ARTIFICIAL, IT'S SYNTHETIC.
AND OTHER CITIZEN REQUESTED IMPROVEMENTS I THINK SPECIFIC TO RUSSELL PARK.
>> SPECIFIC TO THAT, SO WE HAVE A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT BY YOUNG FAMILIES, PARENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN IN RUSSELL PARK IN THE BALL FIELDS.
WE WILL END UP WITH A REASONABLE DEBATE ON THIS IF WE APPROVE THIS AS BEING A PRIORITY BECAUSE WE MAY OR MAY NOT CHOOSE AS A CITY TO REGULATE ARTIFICIAL TURF OR SYNTHETIC TURF, PERVIOUS AND IMPERVIOUS ROADS.
BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IN JACKSONVILLE BEACH, AND I KNOW WE DON'T DO THINGS BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES IT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY, THEY HAVE THAT STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY, AND THAT IS WHAT THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH ARE ASKING FOR IS THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE CLOSER TO A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY AND NOT DATED AS IT IS NOW.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT SYNTHETIC TURF, IT IS ABOUT [OVERLAPPING].
>> OTHER REQUESTED IMPROVEMENTS.
>> BUT IF I PUT A DOT ON RESILIENCY, I CAN'T PUT A DOT ON SYNTHETIC TURF TO ME.
>> FAIR ENOUGH. I AGREE WITH YOU.
SO MAYBE IT WOULD BE CHANGED TO SAY WITH CONSIDERATION FOR SYNTHETIC TURF IF NOT IN CONFLICT WITH OUR OTHER POLICY. I DON'T KNOW.
>> I'M NOT THE WATER ENGINEER.
>> YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THIS, MAYOR, 10 SECONDS.
I RAN A SCHOOL IN NEWPORT, RHODE ISLAND, WHERE WE PUT A SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD IN.
THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THAT THAN I EVER IMAGINED.
A LOT THAT GOES INTO THE GROUND.
IT'S NOT A REALLY HEALTHY RESILIENT PROGRAM.
>> HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT, COMMISSIONER BOLE?
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2006 [INAUDIBLE] WHERE THEY HAVE TO [OVERLAPPING].
BUT I WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR RESILIENCY AND VOTE FOR A SYNTHETIC TURF FIELD. THAT'S ME.
>> I WAS SAYING THAT THERE IS PERVIOUS SERVICES LIKE TURF-LIKE THAT ARE [OVERLAPPING] IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
>> THAT'S ALMOST 20 YEARS NOW.
>> YEAH, BUT I'D HAVE TO SEE THE SCIENCE.
>> SO I JUST PUT IN IF IT'S NOT IN CONFLICT WITH RESILIENT SEAGULLS.
>> WELL, THE OTHER THING I'M LEERY OF PUTTING A LOT MORE INTO THIS PARK IS THAT WE WANT IT TO BE A TOWN PARK, NOT A REGIONAL PARK.
HOW MANY GAMES A WEEK DO WE HAVE DOWN IN LIKE 15 OR SOMETHING?
>> A LOT AND IT PUTS PRESSURE ON EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS AROUND THIS PARK, THE NUMBER OF BALL GAMES.
IF THEY JUST NEED TO STIFFY UP THE CONCESSION STAND, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IF THEY'RE TRYING TO COMPETE WITH ONE OF THE REGIONAL PARKS [OVERLAPPING].
>> I'M NOT PART OF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT.
ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS ACTUALLY TO EXPAND THE, I'LL CALL IT THE OUTFIELD OF THE SMALL FIELD THAT'S ON THE WEST END ADJACENT TO THE [OVERLAPPING].
>> T-BALL FIELD ADJACENT TO THE SOCCER FIELD, WHICH I BELIEVE THE SOCCER FIELD IS NOT REGULATION ANYWAY IT'S MORE OF A PRACTICE FIELD, BUT I'M NOT SURE.I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE.
I'M JUST SAYING WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MR. HOGAN CAN'T QUITE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DID AT LEAST TAKE CARE OF ONE THING IN OUR PARKS THIS PAST YEAR, AND THAT WAS THE PICKLEBALL ISSUE.
FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE PICKLEBALLERS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDRESSING PICKLEBALL IN THIS NEXT YEAR, THAT YOU WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT FOR NOW.
THE PARK AT JACK RUSSELL, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE CAN REASONABLY UPGRADE AND PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE EXPERIENCE, AND SO ON.
IT MAY NOT INCLUDE ARTIFICIAL OR SYNTHETIC TURF.
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DON'T KNOW. THAT'S NOT MY FOLKS.>> SO A CITIZEN REQUESTED IMPROVEMENTS TO DO SOMETHING.
>> TAKE OUT SYNTHETIC TURF AND JUST SAY CITIZEN-REQUESTED IMPROVEMENTS.
>> I RESPECTED YOUR POINT ABOUT THE CONFLICT OR POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF THOSE TWO ITEMS SO THAT KIND OF RESILIENCY.
>> THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ALSO FROM THE MAYOR.
REMOVE RACQUETBALL COURT AND REPLACE IT WITH OTHER USEFUL CITIZEN-REQUESTED INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY I'VE BEEN USING THAT RACQUETBALL COURT FOR DECADES TO PRACTICE MY TENNIS NET SHOTS.
THIRTY YEARS AGO I SAW PEOPLE.
I HAD TO FIGHT TO GET ON THERE, BE BLACK AND PLAY RACQUETBALL.
THERE ARE A FEW STILL, BUT NOT SO MUCH.
THAT'S REAL ESTATE. UNDERNEATH THAT RACQUETBALL COURT IS REAL ESTATE THAT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PARK IN SOME OTHER FASHION.
I'M SIMPLY ASKING THAT WE PUT A FOCUS ON IT AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT SPACE.
>> IN SOME WAYS, DO YOU THINK THESE FIT TOGETHER?
>> NO. IT GOES MORE WITH THE PARK PROGRAMMING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT.
I AGREE THAT IT'S POTENTIAL USAGE, BUT WE HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT PROGRAMMING WE NEED TO PUT THERE OR IT GOES THERE.
>> OTHER CITIZEN-REQUESTED INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THAT WOULD IMPLY THAT YOU DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
THE NEXT ONE IS UPGRADE PLAYGROUND AT VETERAN MEMORIAL PARK.
YOUR IDEA, AGAIN, THIS IS MAYOR, SOME SPECIAL EQUIPMENT FOR KIDS.
>> I THREW IT ON THERE LAST BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS IT HAVING HAD SOME EXPERIENCE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS PLAYGROUNDS AND SERVICES.
I WANT TO ASK COMMISSIONER KELLY WHAT YOU KNOW.
DO WE HAVE ANY OF OUR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT DESIGNED AROUND SPECIAL [OVERLAPPING]?
>> SO WE DO HAVE SOME [OVERLAPPING].
>> THEN THE MUSICAL GARDEN FOR [OVERLAPPING].
>> AND THE WAUKEE TRACK IS PAVED OR?
>> LOOK, I THINK WHETHER IT'S TODAY, THIS YEAR, OR AT A FUTURE YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN OF ATLANTIC BEACH? IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS ALMOST HOME ON WEST FIRST STREET.
IF WE'RE GOING TO MAXIMIZE PARK, THAT IS SOMETHING I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT TODAY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY THINGS ON HERE. WE'RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF DOC.
[LAUGHTER] BUT I DO WANT EVERYBODY TO START THINKING ABOUT SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN BECAUSE WE ALREADY, BY OUR CHOICE TWO YEARS AGO, ALLOCATED FUNDING OR A GRANT TO WHAT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS LEARNING THRU MUSIC.
>> NO, THE CONNECTING THRU MUSIC THROUGH NEPTUNE BEACH ELEMENTARY, AND IT'S CHANGED ITS NAME, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND WE'VE SHOWN A WILLINGNESS TO PUT UP FOR THOSE CHILDREN, SO OUR PARKS WOULD WANT ME TO DO THAT.
>> I WONDER IF WE SHOULDN'T CLUSTER THEM THOUGH.
>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT CLUSTERING A FEW OF THESE.
>> QUITE A FEW OF THESE TOGETHER.
>> I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
>> AT THE PARKS. ALL THE HANDICAPPED STUFF SHOULD BE IN ONE OR TWO PARKS BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU DILUTE IT AND THAT THE FAMILY WOULD HAVE TO GO OVER HERE FOR STRING [OVERLAPPING] OVER HERE.
>> THAT'S WHY I ASKED WHAT WE HAVE TODAY BECAUSE I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT IS YOU CAN GET SO MUCH MORE FOR YOUR MONEY IF YOU FOCUS ON ONE LOCATION AND MAKE THAT YOUR OWN.
>> WE PUT IN A WALKING PATH A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
KIWANIS PAID FOR THE SOUND GARDEN.
DISTRICT PARKING IN THE SHADE.
>> THIS LAST ONE, THIS IS COMMISSIONER RING.
WHAT ABOUT SINCE THIS IS SPECIFIC TO ARTS CULTURE, IT'S REALLY THE PARKS AND THE FACILITIES, SO WHAT IF WE TAKE THIS OFF SO THAT IT REALLY IS ABOUT THIS ELECTRONIC PROCESS? WAIT A MINUTE. NO. IS THAT IT? NO. IS IT THAT ONE?
>> THE OTHER ONE. WE DON'T KEEP THAT.
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>> I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS ONE OFF.
>> AND REALLY ABOUT THAT IS I JUST WENT TO JACK'S BEACH AND SUNSHINE PARK, AND THEY HAVE THROUGHOUT QR CODES.
YOU CAN EVEN RENT ONE OF THEIR CABANAS THERE AND THE QR CODE IS LARGE AND IT'S ASSIGNED AND IT'S ALREADY THERE.
YOU CAN ODDLY ALSO HAVE A QR CODE TO LIST CLEAN-UP REQUESTS.
I THINK THAT IS STILL WITH THAT CUSTOMER-CENTRIC SERVICE [OVERLAPPING].
>> WITH THE SERVICE STATIONS I THINK NEEDS ABOUT NEPTUNE BEACH AND IT PROBABLY VARIES.
YES. I KNOW THEY WOULD BE USEFUL.
I KNOW EVERYTHING [OVERLAPPING].
>> CAN YOU DESCRIBE ONE? CAN YOU DESCRIBE A BIKE SERVICE STATION?
>> IT ALLOWS YOU TO PUMP YOUR TIRES AND SOME TOOLS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ONE ANYWHERE.
>> IF I MAY, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE BUDGETED IN THE CIP FOR THIS YEAR.
I'M SURE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE ALL THE PARK STUFF IS AT.
WHEN I GET TO THE PUBLIC WORKS, I'LL TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S LESS THAN $100,000 THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
BUT I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I LESS IT.
>> YES. [OVERLAPPING] CLEARLY EXPRESSING AN INTEREST IN IT.
YOU HAVE FUNDED ONE AND YOU'RE A CIP, SO I'LL BRING IT UP IF IT COMES UP.
>> THEN THIS ONE IS ALSO YOURS.
>> FOR THE PROPERTY OF 100 WEST STREET, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ADD THIS TO COMMISSIONER KELLY'S ON THE 101ST CENTERED SYSTEM.
>> I WAS JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE ADD PUBLIC INPUT [OVERLAPPING] OR YOU SAID EVEN THE QR CODE.
I JUST REALLY LIKED HOW THE PARKS MASTER PLAN PLAYED OUT IN RECEIVING THE INPUT FROM THE [INAUDIBLE].
>> EXCELLENT. I ALSO AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, WE COULD JUST DIRECT THE MANAGERS TO SET UP THE, FIRST OF ALL, TOWN HALL.
[OVERLAPPING] WHEN IS OUR DEADLINE? WHAT'S OUR DROPDOWN [INAUDIBLE] ON THE CONTRACT OF THE PARK?
>> I'D SAY [INAUDIBLE] EXACT DAY.
>> IT'S IN APRIL? WE'RE IN EARLY FEBRUARY.
[INAUDIBLE] NEXT TO TOWN HALL.
WE COULD ALWAYS PUT OUT A SURVEYMONKEY AND THAT WOULD ADVISE PEOPLE ON THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO USE A PRIORITY FOR THAT.
THAT'S A SINGULAR THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT HAPPEN BEFORE THE CONTRACT GOES HARD ON APRIL, WHATEVER, SO I THINK WE JUST DIRECT.
I'LL DO PUBLIC AND THE SURVEY AND ALL THAT.
>> I GUESS IT'S GOING BACK TO THE CUSTOMER-CENTRIC SERVICE STRATEGY TOO BY INCORPORATING THE CITIZENS INTO THE DECISION-MAKING.
>> THEN THIS WAS OVER HERE ON THE PARKING LOT, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT OFF NOW BECAUSE WE'VE PUT IT OVER THERE.
>> DO WE WANT TO TAKE IT OFF OF THERE COMPLETELY THEN, CANDACE?
>> THE WHOLE THING OR JUST THE PUBLIC INPUT?
WE HAVE A POLICY FOR GETTING PARK BENCHES.
BILL WILL FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN GET A BOOK ON THE DONATED COUCH AND A SHOW LINE TOUR FOR THE BOOK.
CAN I HAVE [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS BUT THE REQUEST FOR A GRANT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT?
>> FOR THAT GRANT, I SAW ONE UP THERE FOR GRANTS AND I JUST ASSUME, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT SPECIFIC TO THIS ONE PARTICULAR HAS SOME QUESTIONS WITH CITY MANAGER.
>> THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TO DO THAT.
WE COULD DO IT MONDAY, BUT WE HAVE TILL THE 15TH, WHICH IS A WEDNESDAY.
>> WHAT I THINK WE COULD DO NOW IS AGAIN LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW IF WE CHOOSE TO BE IN SUPPORT OR IN CONSENSUS, THEN WE START THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THAT.
YOU CAN'T WAIT TILL MONDAY TO HAVE US VOTE ON IT AND THEN HAVE IT DONE BY WEDNESDAY.
I PERSONALLY WOULD FAVOR PREPARING FOR THAT GRANT REQUEST
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AND EVEN MAKING THE REQUEST WITHOUT ANSWERING ALL THE QUESTIONS.WE STILL HAVE THE POWER BEFORE WE ACTUALLY SIGN, IF SO LUCKY AS TO BE AWARDED A GRANT.
BEFORE WE ACCEPT THE GRANT, WE COULD SAY, WE SWEEP BACK UP AND WE CHANGED OUR MIND, BUT WE ARE GOING TO GET A CHANCE AT THAT.
I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO MS. MORAN'S COMMENT THAT IF YOU AREN'T SIGNED UP ON FEBRUARY 15TH, YOU WILL NOT BE SIGNED OUT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY HERE.
IT JUST NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU REMEMBER.
SOME OF THESE GRANTS COME WITH STIPULATIONS.
IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WRITE YOU A CHECK, AND THEY SAY, HEY, YOU GUYS GO SPEND THIS MONEY ANYWHERE YOU WANT.
THEY CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC AND THEY CAN GO AGAINST SOME OF YOU WHAT YOU MAY HAVE AS PRIORITIES UP HERE.
>> LET ME COMMENT ON THAT. THANK YOU, MR. BOLE.
I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO DO A FINAL VOTE.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE LEADER OF OUR ESC COMMITTEE HAS SAID, THIS IS IMPORTANT.
I WOULD LIKE US TO RESPECT THAT AND START THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THAT WITH FURTHER DIALOGUE ON MONDAY COMMISSION COMING AS TO WHETHER WE DO OR DON'T WANT TO RATIFY THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ON WEDNESDAY THAT IT HAD TO BE IN.
THEN IT CAN BE ON THE WEDNESDAY, WE STILL HAVE THE POWER TO BACK UP AND SIT.
>> WE'LL ASK FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON US.
I WROTE BACK AND SAID, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WANTS IN THE REST OF YOU.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR.
TYPICALLY, WE DON'T COME TO THE COMMISSION AND ASK THE COMMISSION TO PURSUE A GRANT.
WE PURSUE THE GRANT AND THEN IF WE'RE AWARDED THE GRANT, WE BRING THAT AWARD TO THE COMMISSION.
WHO DIDN'T CHOOSE TO ACCEPT IT OR NOT ACCEPT IT.
I HAVEN'T MET WITH MS. [INAUDIBLE] YET, OUR MEETING IS TOMORROW.
I THOUGHT IT WAS TODAY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TOMORROW.
MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THE GRANT IS, AT LEAST ON NOT WHAT SHE PRESENTED TODAY, BUT WHAT WAS IN THE WORD DOCUMENT OR PDF DOCUMENT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE EMAIL THAT SHE SENT AMANDA.
THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT THE CITY SHALL X, Y, AND Z, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS OF THOSE X, Y, AND Z ARE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T PURSUE THE GRANT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.
THEN IF AND WHEN WE'RE AWARDED THE GRANT, THEN STAFF CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER THE COST BENEFIT IS THERE FOR THE CITY TO FALL OFF.
>> IS IT REASONABLE THAT YOU'RE TO SAY THAT YOU'RE AWARE YOU COULD BE IN A POSITION TO BE READY TO GO ON WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK IF WE WANTED YOU TO PURSUE IT?
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS TECHNICALLY, WE DON'T ASK FOR THE PERMISSION TO PURSUE, WE JUST PURSUED.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK YOU WOULD LIKE TO NOW ARGUE OR ARGUE NOT GOING TO PURSUE BECAUSE WE WON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE AFTER WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK.
>> THAT'S WHERE I WAS COMING UP WITH STAFF MAY CHOOSE TO PURSUE IT AND THEN UTILIZE THE GRANT REVIEW PERIOD TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CITY'S COST OBLIGATIONS ARE.
IF WE'RE AWARDED THE GRANT, THEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
WE'LL SAY, WELL, THIS IS OUR OBLIGATIONS, IT'S GOING TO COST US FOUR MILLION DOLLARS, JUST FOR INSTANCE.
THEN IT'S A THREE MILLION DOLLAR GIFT, SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND FOUR AND GET TWO.
AT THAT POINT, WE MAY NOT RECOMMEND A GRANT.
EXCUSE ME. FOR CITIZENS IN THE ROOM, THIS MEETING IS CLOSED TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PLEASE STAY IN THE RECEIPT AND TALK TO COMMISSIONERS AFTER MEETING.
BUT BACK TO THE CONVERSATION, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAPPEN.
AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD, PER SE TO THE COMMISSION AGENDA OF MONDAY.
BUT ASSUMING THE CITY WAS TO COME BACK, WE WOULD HAVE FURTHER DIALOGUE IN ON HOW DO WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT BRAND.
>> IS THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT IS YOU BILL SO THAT THE MARSH DOTS OR THE MARSH GOLD, WHAT ARE THE GUIDE LINES OR WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE LANES THAT WE HAVE TO STAY IN IF WE WANTED TO DO THE OYSTERS.
IT'S LIKE TEP AND SO ANYTHING TO DO WITH WET.
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SO THE STATE IS THE PERMITTING AGENCY FOR THAT, SO WE HAVE TO GET A PERMIT FROM THE STATE TO DO IT.FRANKLY, THE CITY DOESN'T OWN A LOT OF THE MARSH FRONT, AND MOST OF THAT'S OWNED BY PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE NOT REALLY THE APPLICANT IN THAT CASE, IT'S THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ARE I HAVE TALKED WITH STAFF AND WE ARE LOOKING AT TRYING TO WORK WITH EP DOING SOMETHING WITH OYSTERS.
THE CHALLENGE IS IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT FIVE GALLON BUCKETS OF USED OYSTER SHELLS AND WE'RE GOING TO DUMP THEM IN THE MARCH.
THERE'S A LICENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO GET TO DO THAT.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SPACE, THE DIRT IN WHICH TO LAY THE SHELVES OUT AND CURE THEM.
IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE'RE GOING TO GET THE RESTAURANTS TO COLLECT THE SHELLS AND THE DUMP THE SHELVES AND MORE CURATE THAT.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS I'M WORKING WITH STAFF LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY A PROJECT AND WORK WITH THE EP TO SEE IF IT'S VIABLE.
I MEAN, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION IS THE UPWARD SIDE OF THE SHORELINE.
TYPICALLY, WHEN ORCHARDS ARE USED, THEY'RE USED FOR MARSH GRASS STABILIZATION, UPWARD STABILIZATION.
THEY'RE USED TO OFFSET, TO ATTENUATE WAVE ACTION, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON MARS SIDE, THE UPWARD SIDE OF THE MARS.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT A PIT AND I'M TALKING WITH STAFF ON DOING IT.
IT'S JUST NOT. I KNOW THERE'S FRUSTRATION THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN FAST.
IT'S NOT JUST OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WHOLE PERMIT LICENSE.
>> ON MY BULLET I SAID IF NOT PROHIBITED.
>> WAS THINKING ABOUT DEP AND CORP OF ENGINEERS.
ANYBODY ELSE THAT MIGHT WEIGH IN.
BUT IT MAY BE BETTER STATED TO SAY BASED ON APPROPRIATE APPROVALS FROM AGENCIES.
>> IT IS NOT THE MARCH, IT'S NOT THE MARSH ALREADY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE A PARTICULAR, WE SAY THAT YOU FITS PERFECT, THAT THE MARCH IS INCLUSIVE.
BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS SOMETHING THAT SPECIFICALLY SAID INVOLVED.
>> I'M ADDING WITH APPROVAL FROM AGENCIES, AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S REGULATORY AGENCIES, AND SO I ADDED IT TO THIS ONE.
WE JUST HAVE THREE BALLS TO GO DEVELOP A MATRIX FOR ACCEPTANCE OF RECOMMENDATION AS THEY'RE STARTING TO COME IN FROM THE PARKING COMMITTEE FROM CHARTER REVIEW, AND THIS WAS COMMISSIONER KELLY, WASN'T IT?
>> YEAH. CONFLICTS EARLIER HERE ON HOW WE DECIDED ABOUT THINGS.
WE DECIDED ON THINGS WITHOUT DETERMINING THEIR COSTS OR THE CAUSE AND EFFECT WHEN WE GET WHEN THEY BRING TO US TO VOTE FOR A VARIANCE.
DOES IT FIT THIS OR THIS CRITERIA? I'M WONDERING IF BEFORE WE'RE PRESENTED WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE AT LEAST AN OUTLINE AMONG OURSELVES ON WHAT CONSIDERATIONS WE SHOULD LOOK AT BEFORE VOTING ON THINGS WE VOTED ON.
WE VOTED ON PICKLE WALL, NOT KNOWING IT WAS GOING TO BE X NUMBER OF BAZILLION DOLLAR.
>> THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT'S DICTATED BY THE CHARTER OF THE CITY WHERE WE VOTE ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE ON THE BALLOT BACK.
>> KELLY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT?
>> YEAH, THAT ONE AND WHATEVER PARK.
>> I THINK WE'RE A VOTE. WHEN THEY BRING IT UP, WE VOTE ON IT TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR NOT.
>> SURE SO YOU WANT TO CODIFY THE DISCUSSION, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO?
>> YES. IS IT SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHY REQUIRE? IT WOULDN'T BE GEOGRAPHY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A VARIANCE DECISION MAKING MATRIX.
>> IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN, I'M GOING TO NOT DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY AT THIS POINT.
BUT I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, AND I'VE HEARD IT IN TONIGHT, IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET ACTIONABLE REQUESTS FROM THE STOCK COMMITTEE? IT IS HARD TO GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER, GET SOMETHING TOGETHER, GET IT ALL THE WAY TO COMMISSION, AND THEN GET A VOTE ON DOING SOMETHING.
I WOULD NOT LAYER ON ANYTHING ADDITIONAL.
I WOULD ASK EACH OF FIVE COMMISSIONERS, INCLUDING ME, TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS WHEN WE GET IT AND VOTE UP OR DOWN, EITHER WANT TO DO IT OR WE DON'T, AND FORCE I HEAR YOU, COMMISSIONER KELLY.
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WE'RE RIGHT ON. WE SHOULD BE HAVING A CONVERSATION.I'LL RELY ON MR. MOLE TO DO THIS AND THAT IS WHAT'S THE MONEY, HOW MUCH MONEY AND WHERE'S IT COMING FROM AND SO ON IF THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT WE CAN LEAD THAT UP THERE AND VOTE ON THAT.
I JUST I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LABEL ON A MATRIX AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE'VE NOT HEARD FROM THE STOP COMMITTEE YET.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY BEFORE STARTING ABOUT.
>> YOU CAN PUT A DOT ON OR NOT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT IS STOB.
>> MATRIX FOR ACCEPTANCE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CHARTER REVIEW.
I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT DIFFERENT?
>> WELL, JUST IN GENERAL, SO WE WANT, WE WANT DECISIONS THAT ARE BALANCED, THAT REPRESENT ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
WE WANT RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THOSE GENERAL KIND OF POLICY THINGS.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE MADE A POINT OF MAKING SURE THAT THINGS THAT WE DID WERE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE SO THAT IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS.
IT IS HOW WE COULD BE PRESENT THIS TO THE CITY.
IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE CHARTER REVIEW MEETING, WE WERE LACKING THE STRUCTURE GOT US IN TROUBLE.
IF YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND YOU HAVE TWO VOTES OUT OF YOUR DISTRICT, OR WHATEVER, WE GOT IN TROUBLE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GUIDELINE TO FOLLOW, O THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE THING.
I CAN GIVE YOU THE HISTORY OF SOME OF THAT.
WE GO BACK THERE, BUT, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE FREEWHEEL TO LOOK INTO IT, GO DOWN.
IF MY DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT THAN YOUR DISTRICT, HE FINE.
>> YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE BASING IT ON CRITERIA BECAUSE OF YOUR DISTRICT.
>> I WANT TO GET IT STOP. YOU DIDN'T WANT TO STOP? YOU DID NOT WANT. THAT'S PREEMPTIVE A WEAPON.
THIS STOP WAS WAS WAS FORMED BY EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT.
>> IT IS A REPRESENTATION OF ALL THAT I LISTEN TO, HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY IS WE CAN START PROCESSING THIS AND VOTE LIKE WE WOULD VOTE ANYTHING ELSE.
>> WELL, IT'S UP HERE IF YOU WANT TO PUT A DOT ON IT.
SUPPORT THE INTERNAL GOALS SET BY COMMITTEES.
YOU HAVE HAD FOR THOSE COMMITTEES THAT DID COME UP WITH GOALS WHICH WAS ESC, YOU HAD ACCESS TO THOSE WHEN YOU WERE DEVELOPED.
>> I THINK THAT'S ASPIRATIONAL.
I HOPE FOR IT IT'S NOT A PRIORITY.
>> BECAUSE TO SAY SUPPORT INTERNAL GOALS, THERE MAY BE SOME COMMITTEES THAT HAVE INTERNAL GOALS THAT I DISAGREE ABOUT, SO I'M NOT SUPPORTING THEM.
IT'S ASPIRATIONAL FOR US TO ALWAYS DO THE BEST WE CAN TO SUPPORT OUR COMMITTEES BECAUSE THEY WORK HARD TO BRING US THE RECS.
>> CAN I CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT?
>> THEY BOTH SEND US THEIR GOALS, ALL THEY WANT US TO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDED.
BUT IN GENERAL, EVEN IF WE DON'T INCLUDE IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
BILLS NOT GOING TO [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE I WAS TALKING ON SOME OF THE SPECIFICS I KNOW THE QR CODES AND THE SIGNAGE, THE MAILING, DISNEY STYLE MATT PARKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD LIST THAT SPECIFIC OR IN THE SCAVENGER MONTH OF THE TURTLE CRAWL.
INTEGRATING IT IN SOMEHOW THROUGHOUT WHAT WE HAVE.
>> THEY PROBABLY DO WORK IN HERE.
I THINK THE ESC DID IT THIS YEAR.
IS GETTING THE COMMITTEES TO COME UP WITH THEIR PRIORITIES IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THAT THEIR PRIORITIES DID INFORM YOU WHEN YOU'RE DOING THIS WORK.
BECAUSE THEN THIS WORK HAS TO THEN INFORM THE BUDGET PROCESS.
THIS WHOLE THING STARTED NOW, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE HAD A NEW MAYOR AND NEW CITY MANAGER.
I DON'T THINK PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE THAT.
IT WAS JOE. I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW WHY HE ASKED ME, I REALLY DON'T.
BUT HE SAID, WELL, YOU DO THIS AND I THOUGHT, OH, I CAN DO THAT.
I THINK EVERY YEAR THAT'S GONE BY, WE'VE TRIED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS FAR AS PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER.
BUT TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE IS SITTING RIGHT THERE.
BECAUSE MR. KILLINGSWORTH KNOWS HOW TO TAKE THESE PRIORITIES,
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HOW TO CREATE A COHERENT PLAN WITH WHO WILL DO WHAT, BY WHEN, FOR WHAT COST, AND HE WILL HAVE BENCHMARKS.HE IS LIKE THE PIECE THAT WE NEEDED TO PUT ALL THIS WORK TOGETHER.
I THINK WITH THE COMMITTEES, YOU MAY BE MORE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR WORK IF YOU GOT REPORTS IN A TIMELY WAY.
>> THAT TO ME, FAILS THE MEASURABLE VOLT.
IS THAT MEASURABLE? GOOD LUCK.
>> [OVERLAPPING] THIS ONE, THE LAST ONE.
CAN I TAKE THAT OFF? BECAUSE THIS IS HAPPENING NOW, YOU'RE SCHEDULING THE COMMITTEES? I'VE GOT ONE. CAN I ADD?
>> QUICK ONE. THEY'VE HEARD IT BEFORE.
SURE. CITY FACILITIES LIABILITY ISSUES ARE COVERED.
>> I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T ALREADY HAVE THAT BOOK.
>> CITY FACILITIES LIABILITY ISSUES ARE COVERED SORRY?
>> ENSURE CITY FACILITIES I'M SORRY ARE COVERED?
>> OH, IT IS IT IS INSURED, NOT IN ENSURE CITY FACILITIES LIABILITY.
>> INSURED CITY FACILITIES FOR COVERED LIABILITY.
[OVERLAPPING] WHO'S GOT THE DOTS? IT'S FIVE MINUTES TO EIGHT.
I THINK IF WE ALLOW 10 MINUTES FOR DOT PLACING, YOU HAVE TEN DOTS, SO THAT'S ONE DOT A MINUTE.
THAT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK IF YOU NEED TO AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK HERE AND MASSAGE THE WHOLE THING.
I THINK WE'LL BE DONE BY 8:30, WHICH WOULD BE 3 HOURS. IS THAT OKAY?
>> COMMISSIONER HAS A [INAUDIBLE].
>> [INAUDIBLE] SUGGESTION. I COUNTED JUST NOW BEFORE COMMISSIONER ROLES, AND WE'RE AT 29.
COULD WE LOOK AT THIS? IT WOULD MAKE SECOND ROUND A LITTLE [INAUDIBLE] COULD BE LOOK AND SEE WHICH ONES WE COULD CONSOLIDATE OR SAY THAT WE KNOW OR SOMEBODY IS ALREADY DOING THAT, SO DATED.
WE WE GET IT DOWN FROM 28 BEFORE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND ROUND?
>> BUT THE MORE SPECIFIC THEY ARE, THE MORE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO GO.
YOU'RE ELIMINATING THE 18 THAT DIDN'T MAKE THE CUT.
>> I THINK THAT'S YOUR ANSWER.
BUT I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IT'S THAT IS, THIS IS LAST YEAR.
IF I RECALL CORRECTLY AT THE MEETING FOLLOWING THIS MEETING, THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING, YOU HAD LORD SMITH WHO PRESENTED AND YOU RECOMMENDED PRIOR RELEASE, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> YES. MR. MAYOR IF I MAY ASK THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN THAT, BECAUSE THE IDEA THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS THE ITEMS UP HERE THAT YOU PICK BETTER CATHEDRALS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEM A GOAL AND THEN HAVE STAFF IDENTIFY THE STEPS TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE HERE THAT ARE JUST A TASK TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY MIGHT AGGREGATE A CATHEDRAL, I WOULD LIKE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THAT CATHEDRAL IS AND THEN HAVE YOUR TASK SLEEVE SO THAT MAY TAKE MORE WORK TO THAT.
THAT BRINGS ME IN THE NEXT THING.
AFTER THE SMART PEOPLE GET COLD WITH THIS LORD SMITH DID AND AGGREGATE AND SO ON, THEY MAY COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE THEY'VE AGGREGATED SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T ALREADY DO OR THEY'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED IT SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PRIORITY.
AND I WOULD WELCOME THAT, IF THE COMMISSION WOULD WELCOME THAT.
THAT WAY IT HELPS US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE FINAL OF DRAFT.
>> YOU GET A CHANCE TO MASSAGE IT ONE MORE TIME AFTER YOU SEE WHAT HE DOES.
>> ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT I WANTED TO CARRY OVER FROM LAST YEAR WAS MY HEAVY HORSE AND THAT IS THE SEVEN ROAD AND ATLANTIC BOULEVARD INTERSECTION.
THAT LOOKS LIKE DOWNTOWN STARK.
IS THAT IF THAT'S ALREADY ENROUTE, I WILL NOT ASK HER TO PUT IT ON.
I'M WORKING WITH THE FDRC TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT INTERSECTION.
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THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT FOR THIS,.>> IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUE ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE IT KEEP IT ON THE LIST.
THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WOULD KEEP IT IN MY MIND AND HAVE WORK FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO GET SOMETHING DONE THERE. I WILL DO THAT.
I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER KELLY.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THERE AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO THAT WITHOUT IT BEING A PRIORITY.
>> RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S [INAUDIBLE]
>> YEAH. AND PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
DO WE NEED TO RUN THROUGH ALL THESE OR ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
>> YOU GOT HIM THERE. WHO DID? [INAUDIBLE].
SO YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS PART?
>> YES? THE BESTOWING OF THE DOTS IS NOW HAPPENING.
>> I'LL BE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR ANSWERS [BACKGROUND]
>> NO, I'M A VOLUNTEER. I'M RETIRED.
>> THANKS. IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
>> YOU PUT ONE UP TO YOURS. I FORGOT THE RULE OF.
>> YEAH. I SHOULD SAY THAT THESE ARE YOUR 10 VOTES.
YOU COULD PUT ALL TEN VOTES IN ONE PLACE IF YOU WANT, BUT THEN YOU'RE SILENCING YOURSELF ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO PUT SOME ON MULTIPLES ON IT, YOU CAN DO THAT.
>> LET'S SEE, THAT'S TWO, ONES MEET ONE.
>> YEAH, THAT'S ONE AND THIS IS ONE.
SORRY I GET MESSY AFTER A WHILE.
>> THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO ACCELERATE.
>> YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO ACCELERATE?
>> GET TO TALK ABOUT THE RENT? BUT IT'S BEEN TABLED THIS YEAR.
>> WELL THEN WE HAVE [INAUDIBLE] HE'S GOING TO REPORT ON THAT.
>> ON MONDAY I THINK, [OVERLAPPING] THAT ISN'T NEEDED.
>> [BACKGROUND] THEY SQUISH AROUND EVERY YEAR.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT SO MUCH BUCKETS AS PROMPTS WITH ANOTHER.
YOU SAW WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT WERE JUST IDEAS THAT THEY HAD, SOME, YEARS WE GO BACK TO THE PRIORITIES FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT THINGS ARE IMPORTANT EVERY YEAR.
WE MAKE IT AS FLEXIBLE AS WE CAN.
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BECAUSE THE IMPORTANT THING IS GETTING THE IDEAS, NOT HAVING RIGID CATEGORIES. [BACKGROUND]>> YOU CAN'T JUST HIT A BUTTON.
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>> THANK YOU-ALL FOR YOUR DILIGENCE WITH YOUR DOTS. DO WE HAVE A WINNER?
>> COMMISSIONER BOLE WILL BE VERY HAPPY.
>> I'M VERY HAPPY. [BACKGROUND] THANK YOU.
>> REALLY WHAT'S THAT? SPOKE ABOUT A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTIES.
>> NO. IT'S MORE ABOUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A FOR-PROFIT PROGRAM OR IF YOU'RE IN A PARK AND YOU RUN SOME TYPE OF ACTIVITY OR YOU'RE TENANTS, THE CITY HAS GOT TO BE INDEMNIFIED FOR THAT ACTIVITY.
>> THAT'S REALLY KIND OF A [OVERLAPPING].
>> THIS ONE IS FROM THE LAST YEAR TOO.
THIS YEAR ALSO THE SAME, THE CUSTOMER-CENTRIC STRATEGY.
I'M GOING WITH ANYTHING FIVE RIGHT NOW.
THEN THIS ONE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
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THE MARSH FRONT EROSION AND FINDING A GOOD STRATEGY AS LONG AS IT'S NOT PROHIBITED AND AS LONG AS IT'S GOT APPROVAL FROM THE [INAUDIBLE] AND THEN I THINK THAT YOU MENTIONED THE SCIENCE OF WHAT IS MARSH EROSION.YOU GOT SEVEN VOTES ON THAT ONE, SO THAT'S HIGH PRIORITY.
>> AGAIN THAT'S A FACT OF WATER PLANS.
>> THIS IS REALLY JUST TO GET ON WITH THE SWANN WATER PLAN.
>> YEAH. I DO HAVE TO COMMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN THAT HAVING SPOKEN MANY TIMES TO MR. SWANN ABOUT WHERE WE ARE.
HE AND CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN DILIGENT ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DIRECTION TO THE CITY AND SPECIFICALLY MR. KILLINGSWORTH IS THAT THAT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGH PRIORITY.
FIGURE OUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO. PRESS ON THEM.
>> REGULAR UPDATES FOR COMMISSION ON PROJECT TIMELINES AND FINANCES.
THIS SOUNDS LIKE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE COMMISSION MEETING THAT YOU PRIORITIZE THAT.
KEVIN AND I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY YEAR, HOW LOW DO WE GO IN THE NUMBER OF VOTES? I'M THINKING, GIVEN THAT, AND ALSO, BILL, YOU'RE GOING TO SORT THIS OUT AS FAR AS THE CATHEDRALS AND THE PIECES.
BUT I THINK YOU COULD ALSO GO DOWN TO THE THREES.
YOU HAVE A THREE HERE WHICH IS IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE BY IDENTIFYING THE GAPS IN ARTS AND REC PROGRAMMING AND THEN MAKE A PLAN TO REMEDY.
THAT WAS FROM THE ARCC COMMITTEE, THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK THE WHOLE E-BIKE ISSUE, EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND IT FEELS MAYBE STUCK IN WHAT CAN BE DONE, BUT THREE OF YOU SAID WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.
WE HAD ONE OTHER THREE, DIDN'T WE? THIS ONE.
REVIEW CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICIES AND IDENTIFY OUTDATED POLICIES AND CODES.
YOU WANT TO LOOK AT TWOS? [OVERLAPPING] HOW MANY WAS THAT, KEVIN? [OVERLAPPING] REMEMBER, SOME OF THOSE MAY GET PICKED APART IN SOME WAYS DEPENDING ON IF THEY'RE PIECES OF A PROJECT OR [OVERLAPPING].
>> THERE'S 11 THAT ARE TWO OR MORE.
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS OF PRIORITIES, WE HAVE ON BALANCE SEVEN.
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY JUST ONE THING YOU CAN [OVERLAPPING].
SO I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO MR. KILLINGSWORTH AND MR. HOGENCAMP TO TRY TO WORDSMITH AND CONSOLIDATE [OVERLAPPING].
>> FOR US TO GO DOWN TO THE TWO OR MORE DOTS.
>> THE REGULAR UPDATES AND THE STORMWATER PLAN, THEY'RE ALREADY REALLY WELL IN HAND.
BILL HAS ALREADY TOLD US HE'S GOING TO HAVE UPDATES WITH TIMELINES AND REPORTS AND THEN I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT TO KEEP UP WITH THE PLAN ON HOPKINS CREEK, BUT IT'S ALREADY MOVING ABOUT AS FAST AS IT CAN.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S MOVING BUT NOT AS FAST AS WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT MOVING.
>> I'M NOT SAYING WHOSE FAULT IT IS, BUT THAT'S THE MEASURABLE THING OUT OF THE PRIORITY.
WE'RE MAKING IT A PRIORITY TO GET ON WITH IT IF WE CAN.
THIS GUY'S GOING TO TELL US YES OR NO.
>> THERE'S MULTIPLE PHASES ON THAT.
>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE CURRENT PHASE THAT'S ACTUALLY OUT FOR BID, I THINK, IN TWO SEPARATE BIDS, BUT THERE'S MORE COMING BEHIND THAT, AND I WOULD LIKE TO STAY ON IT UNTIL WE HAVE FULLY EXHAUSTED HOPKINS CREEK FROM HEADWARDS TO DOWNSTREAM.
>> WELL, WHY DON'T WE LEAVE IT LIKE THIS WITH THREE OR ABOVE? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT BILL?
>> YEAH. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I THINK YOU'VE CAPTURED JUST THROUGH THE NUMBER OF DOTS THE PRIORITY AND PURPOSE.
IT MAY BE THAT ONLY GOT ONE DOT OR MAYBE MADE THE LIST IS A NECESSARY STEP FOR ACHIEVING ANOTHER ONE.
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IT MAY SHOW UP ON THE LIST AS A STEP TO ACHIEVE A GREATER GOAL THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED FOR THE PRIOR.I THINK JUST WATCH YOUR HABITS GREAT AND THEN WE CAN USE THE DOTS TO FOCUS THE ENERGY.
>> EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? TO REVIEW THE REASON THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIES IS FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE OF THEM IS WHEN YOU ARE TOGETHER, THE ONLY TIME YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OTHER IS IN A CALLED MEETING, A NOTICE MEETING.
WHEN YOU HAVE PRIORITIES AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEND YOUR TIME MORE WISELY AND MORE EFFICIENTLY IN YOUR MEETING.
THEN THE OTHER THING, AND IT'S CLEARLY HAPPENING TONIGHT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU'RE CONVEYING TO STAFF HOW YOU WANT THEM TO SPEND THEIR TIME AND THE RESOURCES AND PERFORMANCE.
THOSE ARE TWO REALLY VALUABLE THINGS.
I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE I HONESTLY, THIS IS NUMBER 7.
I HAVE SEEN THE COMMISSIONERS JUST GET MORE FOCUSED, MORE SERIOUS, MORE CLEAR-HEADED, JUST SMARTER ABOUT DOING THIS WORK.
YOU'RE LIKE YOUR OWN PROCESS IMPROVEMENT JUST HAPPENING.
THAT'S EXCITING FOR ME TO SEE.
I LIVE HERE AND I LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I THINK YOU WANT TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> THANK YOU, LESLIE. [OVERLAPPING] ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.