Mar 11, 2024 Commission Meeting

COMMISSIONER RING. OKAY, COMMISSIONER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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BUT FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A INVOCATION AND PLEDGE LED BY COMMISSIONER RING.

GOOD. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH HUMBLE AND GRATEFUL HEARTS.

WE ASK FOR YOUR BLESSING UPON THE CITY COMMISSION OUR CITIZENS, ALL WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THE PROTECTION OF OUR ARMED FORCES SERVING OUR COUNTRY.

MAY THE FAVOR OF THE LORD OUR GOD REST UPON US AND ESTABLISH THE WORK OF OUR HANDS FOR EVERY DOLLAR ALLOCATED, EVERY EVENT HELD, AND EVERY DECISION MADE.

TEACH US TO NUMBER OUR DAYS ARIGHT, THAT WE MAY GAIN A HEART OF WISDOM.

FOR THE GOVERNMENT RESTS UPON YOUR SHOULDERS, OH WONDERFUL COUNSEL AND ALMIGHTY GOD.

FOR FROM YOU ARE ALL THINGS, AND TO YOU ARE ALL THINGS TO YOU BE THE GLORY FOREVER.

AMEN, AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

WELL, THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED MARCH 11TH, 2024 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER BOLE. PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER KELLY.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RING.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WATERS.

PRESENT. MAYOR FORD.

PRESENT. THANK YOU DONNA.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND JUMP RIGHT INTO THE MEETING.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE. THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED.

ITEM 1B APPROVED.

THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE MINUTES? HEARING NONE. THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS SUBMITTED.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

AND WE DON'T HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE WE'LL ADHERE TO OUR NORMAL FIVE MINUTES.

SO ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED A YELLOW SHEET, GO AHEAD AND DO THAT SO THAT WE YOU KNOW, KNOW WHO SPOKE TODAY, BUT BUT FIVE MINUTES I WILL NOT GAVEL YOU AT FIVE MINUTES IF YOU GO OVER, BUT I'LL BE PRETTY CLOSE RIGHT AFTER FIVE MINUTES.

SO DONNA, I'M GOING TO LET YOU LEAD US OFF, OKAY? [INAUDIBLE] KENDALL AND NEIL KING.

HI. WE'RE THE KINGS.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE HERE FOR LISTENING TO OUR ISSUE.

WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN SOME NICE CONVERSATION WITH MAYOR FORD AND ALSO MR. WILLIAMS, BUT THEY DID RECOMMEND THAT WE BRING IT UP IN THE GENERAL MEETING AS WELL.

WE LIVE AT THE CORNER OF OCEAN AND 11TH STREET.

WE MOVED IN ONE YEAR AGO.

WE GOT OUR OCCUPANCY PERMIT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE OF OUR NEW HOME.

WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO PUT IN RETENTION PONDS FOR THE FOR OUR PARTICULAR HOME TO MAINTAIN AS ATLANTIC BEACH IS A TERRIFIC RULE. YOU HAVE A HOUSE.

THE WATER IS TO STAY ON YOUR PROPERTY.

AS MAYOR FORD AND I HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED, OUR ISSUE IS THERE IS NO STORM DRAIN BETWEEN THE OCEAN AND OUR HOUSE, WHICH IS MAYBE A BLOCK AWAY AND ALL OF THE WATER FROM ABOVE US THE ELEVATION COMES DOWN.

AND WE DO HAVE VIDEO, WHICH WE'VE SHARED COMES DOWN AND COMES INTO WE HAVE TWO RETENTION PONDS IN THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND BASICALLY ROARS INTO OUR FRONT YARD, OUR TWO RETENTION PONDS, WHICH WORK BEAUTIFULLY, BUT THEY WERE NOT DESIGNED TO RETAIN ALL OF THE WATER FOR A BLOCK AND A HALF OF RAINWATER INTO OUR AREA.

THE ISSUE IS WE CANNOT DO ANY LANDSCAPING BECAUSE IT WILL BE WASHED AWAY.

WE HAVE A DOG.

PARDON ME? YES, EXACTLY.

WE HAVE A DOG. WE THINK WE NEED THAT.

WE NEED TO GET LIFE PRESERVERS AT CERTAIN TIMES.

BUT WE HAVE A DOG THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OTHER NIGHT IN THE RAIN, AFTER ONCE IT CLEARED, WE DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO LET THE DOG OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY USES PESTICIDES. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE ILLEGAL.

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THERE'S RUNOFF FROM THEIR ROOFS, AND ALL OF THAT COMES ROARING INTO OUR AREA.

SO WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT SHORT.

AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR AND MR. WILLIAMS HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT THEY ARE GOING TO COME TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WHICH IS TERRIFIC.

AND THAT'S WHY WE LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET SOME RESOLUTION FROM THE CITY AND OR SOME SUGGESTIONS OF HOW, WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE RULES OF ATLANTIC BEACH, WHAT CAN WE DO TO RECTIFY THIS SITUATION? I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE AND A HALF OR WHATEVER, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

I'D LIKE TO SEE OUR VIDEO, AND WE DO HAVE A VIDEO WHICH WE'VE SHARED AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'VE ALREADY SENT THAT TO MR. WILLIAMS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE AND AS MAYOR FORD HAS ALREADY STATED, HE SAYS, YOU BRING IT UP, I'LL FOLLOW UP.

AND WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THAT WILL BE THE CASE.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LISTENING.

THANK, THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. KING. THANK YOU.

JIM WHEATLEY.

HI. GOOD EVENING, JIM WHEATLEY 20087 MADEIRA COURT.

A FEW ISSUES THIS EVENING.

AND ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN AN ONGOING FOREVER.

PROBABLY THE THING THAT IRRITATES THE NEIGHBORS THE MOST IS THE FIVE WAY STOP.

IT'S A CONTINUOUS SOURCE OF PROBLEMS. I KNOW THAT I HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH THE CHIEF A FEW TIMES, AND EVERY TIME I DO, IT'S GREAT.

THE CHIEF ASSIGNS PEOPLE TO WATCH AND TICKET OR AT LEAST WARN DRIVERS OF BAD BEHAVIOR THERE.

BUT AS SOON AS THE POLICE ARE GONE, IT CONTINUES.

THE OTHER DAY, I SAW.

I SAW THREE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE STOP SIGN.

NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT JUST COAST RIGHT THROUGH IT.

AND THERE ARE MANY CARS FROM OTHER DIRECTIONS SITTING THERE WITH THESE CLOWNS DID THAT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS.

I'M THINKING MORE POLICE PRESENCE THERE WOULD THAT BE A BAD IDEA? I KNOW THAT OCCASIONALLY I WILL SEE AN OFFICER OR A, I GUESS, LIEUTENANT OR WHATEVER SITTING IN A SUBURBAN, YOU'RE DOING PAPERWORK OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UP TO PERHAPS THEY COULD DO THAT RIGHT THERE.

PERHAPS THEY COULD PARK THEIR VEHICLE RIGHT THERE, OR THEY WENT BACK.

I THINK THE VEHICLE ITSELF WILL BE DETERMINED AND PERHAPS A CHASE OFFICER SOMEWHERE AND CORRECT THE BEHAVIOR.

IT JUST SEEMS NEVER ENDING.

BICYCLES. YESTERDAY I WENT OUT FOR A COUPLE TIMES AND TWICE I HAD YOUNG PEOPLE WITH BIKES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OF SEMINOLE ROAD, FROM HERE DOWN TO ATLANTIC.

TWO TWO KIDS RIDING RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

THEY WERE DOING 20 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SUNDAY AFTERNOON THAT'S FINE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO GO ANY FASTER.

THE GUY BEHIND ME WAS REALLY GETTING ANTSY.

YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO CONTROL THESE BIKES.

I'M SEEING YOUNGER AND YOUNGER KIDS ON E-BIKES, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

THE PAST ADMINISTRATION SEEM TO THINK OF BIKES LIKE CARS.

AND EXCEPT THEY CAN DO ANYTHING THEY WANT.

THEY CAN GO THROUGH STOP SIGNS AND WHATEVER.

BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO ROAD RIGHTS, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HOG THE ENTIRE ROAD.

I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE.

ANOTHER ISSUE IS THAT HOUSE BEING UNDER CONSTRUCTION, I THINK IT'S 275 FIFTH STREET.

IT SURE LOOKS LIKE THE FOOTPRINT OCCUPIES A WHOLE LOT MORE PERVIOUS AREA THAN ALLOWED.

I DIDN'T HAVE THE EXACT ADDRESS, SO I DIDN'T GET THE EXACT SPECS ON IT, BUT I THINK SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT JUST LOOKS TO ME LIKE THAT, THAT ITS FOOTPRINT IS LARGER THAN WHAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

THE LAST AND PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS TO PROPOSE EXPENDITURE OF 500,000 PLUS FOR A PUMPING STATION.

THAT'S RIGHT DOWN FROM MY HOUSE.

I KNOW THAT AREA WELL.

WE'VE LIVED IN A HOUSE.

WE BUILT THE HOUSE 35 YEARS AGO.

I HAVE YET TO SEE A PROBLEM WITH DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.

IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED.

I WILL TELL YOU, WE DID OWN A HOUSE IN JAX BEACH.

MY MOTHER IN LAW'S OWN HOUSE, IT WAS RIGHT ON A RETENTION POND.

AND THEY HAD A SEWER SUCKER TRUCK THAT WOULD DROP THE EXCESS INTO THE OCEAN.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT FROM THIS LOCATION.

APPARENTLY THE PUBLIC WORKS HAS PROPOSED SPENDING A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY FOR FOR A LARGE GENERATOR TO BE PUT IN PLACE, YOU KNOW I'M THINKING THAT'S A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TO DROP A GENERATOR IN.

APPARENTLY, TO CLEAR THE ROADWAY AND DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO PUT THE GENERATOR IN.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE TWO SMALL GENERATORS.

I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW, TWO SMALL GENERATORS WOULD BE A HECK OF A LOT CHEAPER THAN HALF $1 MILLION FOR THIS ACCESS ROAD.

I KNOW PART OF THE PLAN, APPARENTLY, IS BULKHEADS.

THAT ROAD IS ROPED OFF.

YOU CANNOT GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

SO WHO'S GOING TO SEE THE BULKHEADS?

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IT JUST MAKES ZERO SENSE TO ME.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT BETWEEN SUBMARINA AND OCEAN WALK, THERE'S A RETENTION POND OR A LITTLE DRAINAGE DITCH.

MY NEIGHBOR THERE HAS TOLD ME THAT ATLANTIC BEACH PUBLIC WORKS HAS COME ON HIS PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ACCESS IT.

APPARENTLY, THE ACCESS OFF OF SEMINOLE IS OBSCURED.

MAYBE IF YOU CLEANED THAT DITCH OUT AND PUBLIC WORKS DID THEIR JOB THERE, WE WOULDN'T NEED THIS.

BUT I SEE [INAUDIBLE] NO NEED FOR THROWING THROWING THAT MONEY AWAY.

IT. THE OTHER THING IS THE COST ESTIMATE ON THIS THING.

A $500,000 FOR A TWO FOOT WIDER ROAD.

THAT'S A WHOLE. AND IT'S NOT A VERY LONG ROAD.

I'M THINKING MAYBE A QUARTER MILE.

I THINK THAT OCCUPIES FOUR HOUSE LOTS, MAYBE FIVE.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT A LONG ROAD.

IT'S AN ABSURD ESTIMATE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF THIS CONTRACTORS FEET OFF MUNICIPALITIES, BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S JUST NOT REASONABLE.

AND THAT'S IT FOR ME THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. WHEATLEY.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. THANKS FOR ALLOWING US TO EVEN COME UP AND SPEAK TONIGHT.

THE SIMONS ARE UP AND WE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT 45 MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE RESOLUTION 24-10 LIFT STATION PROJECT.

SO WE'RE WE'RE TOO NEW TO JUST FINDING OUT WHAT THAT RESOLUTION ENCOMPASSED.

IT AFFECTS OUR PROPERTY OUT OF FOUR PROPERTIES AFFECTED.

YOU HEARD THAT MENTION JUST A MOMENT AGO BY MY PREDECESSOR SPEAKING TONIGHT, AND ALL FOUR PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE NOT EVEN EVEN BEEN ENGAGED, NOT TALKED TO, NOT REASONABLE DUE DILIGENCE ON HOW IT MIGHT AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY.

IN TERMS OF OUR PROPERTY IN THE OPENING STATEMENT FOR THE LIFT STATION, IT MENTIONS REMOVING A PLANTER BOX INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S NOT A PLANTER BOX, IT'S A 60 FOOT RETAINING WALL THAT WHEN THEY PULL BEHIND IT, THAT IF YOU TOOK THAT RETAINING WALL AND REMOVED WHAT SO CALLED A PLANTER BOX, THE WALL, THE DIRT HOLDING BACK THE PROPERTY TO THAT, YOU KNOW, ENCLOSES THE POOL WOULD FALL.

IN FACT, SOME PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW AT THE AT THE CITY WE HAVE THEIR NAMES THAT WE TALKED TO WHEN THIS ALL HAPPENED AND COLLAPSED FROM THE YEARS OF NEGLECT.

THE WALL THAT IS A 24 INCH, 60 FOOT WALL IS A CITY WALL FOR THAT ROAD.

IT WAS NEGLECTED AND IT FELL, SO WE HAD TO REPAIR IT.

THE RAILROAD TIES MENTIONED IN THE TO BE REMOVED AS THAT WALL.

WE WERE TOLD THAT WALL WON'T BE FIXED BY THE CITY BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUDGET AND NO MONEY.

SO THEY DROPPED THE RAILROAD TIES OFF TO ME TO DO THE LABOR.

IN ORDER TO PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE AND ENCLOSE THE POOL.

HE DID IT BY HIMSELF.

SO I AGREED.

SO WE'VE BEEN IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY, NOT ONLY OVER THAT, BUT THIS LIFT STATION FOR NOISE, AESTHETICS AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING BACK THERE FOR WORK.

THE SCOPE OF THE WORK MENTIONED IN THIS 24-10 ISN'T EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO US AND HOW IT WILL AFFECT OUR PROPERTY, HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE POOL, AND THEN THEIR SAFETY CONCERNS.

IF THEY REMOVE THE WALL, THE FENCE FALLS.

WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IF THERE'S SAFETY CONCERNS, THERE'S CHILDREN IN THE AREA AND THEN WHAT WILL WE DO DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR OUR FENCE THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE AFFECTED BY THIS SO-CALLED PLANTER BOX? SO THAT'S MY CONCERN TONIGHT TO SAY I'M GOING TO ASK NOT TO VOTE ON THE BUDGET FOR THE LIFT STATION UNTIL THE SCOPE OF WORK CAN REALLY BE DISCUSSED ON WHAT THAT'S GOING TO ENTAIL, NOT ONLY FOR OUR PROPERTY, BUT THE PROPERTIES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS DEFINITELY GOING TO AFFECT OUR PROPERTY.

AND IN TERMS OF THE SAFETY AND THAT THAT WALL AND HOW IT AFFECTS US.

SO I JUST WANT TO ADD I'M BRENDA SECTION 1936 ONE1, WHICH IS THE OBJECTIVE TO MINIMIZE ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OUR HOUSE IS A PROPERTY THAT YOU TOOK ONE THIRD OF OUR BACKYARD TO DO THE TURNAROUND FOR THE LIFT STATION, LEAVING US WITH VERY LITTLE SPACE FROM OUR POOL TO THE FENCE.

SECONDLY, THERE'S NOT ONE TREE, NOT ONE PLANT, NOT ONE LEAF FROM OUR VIEW OF THIS LIFT STATION.

SO EVERY WINDOW I OWN, I SEE OLIVE GREEN AND THIS GIGANTIC ANTENNA WITH AN EXTENSION ON IT TODAY.

SO AND SO I HEAR IT TURNING.

I SEE IT EVERY DAY.

NOW YOU WANT TO ADD A GENERATOR? I MEAN, YOU HAVE HIT MY SITE, THE SMELL AND THE SOUND, AND WE ARE THE HOMEOWNERS.

WHEN I SPOKE TO TROY, BECAUSE ALL OF THESE SURVEYORS WERE ON MY PROPERTY, ON THE PROPERTY, OUT OF THE EASEMENT, PAINTING IT BLUE, PAINTED ORANGE, DIGGING UP, LOOKING FOR WATER.

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WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT A BULKHEAD AND WE'RE WIDENING THE ROAD.

AND I SAID, CAN YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT BLOCKING THAT UGLY LIFT STATION THAT I LOOK AT? AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE A BACKWARDS PI OUR BACKYARD IS WIDE, SO THAT'S WHY I SEE IT.

HE GOES, MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOME PLANTS OR TREES UP.

THAT SOUNDED GREAT TO ME, BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY FINDING OUT YOU'RE PUTTING A HUGE GENERATOR, WIDENING THE ROAD, TAKING DOWN OUR BARRIER AND THEN OUR PROPERTY, WHICH, BY THE WAY, SITS UP HIGHER THAN THE ROAD, IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO WASH AWAY AND [INAUDIBLE] AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING FOR IT.

THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

OPEN COMMUNICATION IS VERY IMPORTANT BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, THE PEOPLE THAT YOU AFFECT WITH THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE.

SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO NOT DO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE NO DUE DILIGENCE BY THE CITY OR OTHERWISE TO CONTACT HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED.

NOT A KNOCK ON THE DOOR, NOT A BOUNDARY LINE, NOT A DISCUSSION.

AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE BUDGET WILL BE AFFECTED BY THIS IF IT'S APPROVED SCOPE OF THE EFFECT IS.

ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I'LL ADD IS THAT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE SAYING THAT YOU'LL ESTHETICALLY ADDRESS LIFT STATIONS.

YES, RIGHT.

COME TO MY BACKYARD.

AND WOULD YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A LIFT STATION OUT OF YOUR WINDOW EVERY DAY? MY TIME IS UP, BUT YOU GET IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I VOTED FOR ALL OF YOU, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. SIMON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DON BRINKLEY HARRELL.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR COMMISSIONERS STAFF.

I FEEL LIKE I KIND OF STARTED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, TALKING ABOUT MONEY, MONEY, MONEY.

YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AGAINST EVERYTHING, OKAY? ALL I WANT IS SMART SPENDING.

AND I WANT DECISIONS MADE BY MY ELECTED COMMISSIONERS, NOT BY STAFF.

BUT WHAT THAT REQUIRES IS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS MUST BE GIVEN A LOT MORE DETAIL ON THINGS THAT COST LARGE SUM OF MONEY AND HALF $1 MILLION PRETTY NOTICEABLE SIZE OF MONEY, SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE INFORMED DECISIONS, NOT STAFF.

NOW, A COUPLE DAYS AFTER THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT I EVENTUALLY FORWARDED THAT EMAIL TO YOU.

IT WAS THE EMAIL THAT I SENT TO THE MAYOR AND TO THE CITY MANAGER, WITH A WHOLE LAUNDRY LIST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW ABOUT THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION AND THAT HALF MILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE.

OKAY, I PUT A SHORT SYNOPSIS AT THE TOP OF THE EMAIL AS I FORWARDED IT TO TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HOPEFULLY KIND OF DWELLED DRILLED DOWN ON THE REALLY LARGE EMAIL AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT TRAIL THAT THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE.

I ASK ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

I ASKED ABOUT THE DUE DILIGENCE WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

YOU'VE HEARD FROM TWO OF THE NEIGHBORS TONIGHT.

NOW, 20TH STREET'S A LONG WAY FROM MY HOUSE ON SIXTH STREET.

BUT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A HALF $1 MILLION EXPENDITURE.

THAT IS AS MUCH AS WHAT SCOTT WILLIAMS IS GOING TO GET UP HERE AND BRIEF FOR THE ENTIRE PAVING PLAN FOR THIS YEAR.

AND ALL THIS IS DOING IS IS DOING A PROJECT ON 340FT OF STREET AND BUILDING A BOAT DOCK.

I'M SORRY, A BULKHEAD ON A DITCH THAT SHOULD BE EMPTY ALL THE TIME INSTEAD OF HOLDING 3 OR 4FT OF WATER.

NOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL ABOUT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW SO SO HERE'S MY ANALOGY FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, ALL OF YOU OWN PROPERTIES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ALL HAVE GENERATORS OR NOT.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR GENERATOR COST YOU IF YOU HAVE ONE $5,000, $10,000, IF YOUR GENERATOR COMPANY CAME TO YOU AND SAID YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TEN TIMES THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND $100,000 TO DO THIS OTHER WORK IN ORDER TO PUT IN YOUR 5 OR $10,000 GENERATOR.

I'M WILLING TO BET YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO SCRATCH YOUR HEAD, MAYBE GO TO THE REFRIGERATOR FOR A REFRESHMENT AND COME BACK AND SAY, THERE AIN'T NO WAY IN HELL I'M SPENDING $100,000 FOR A 5 OR $10,000 GENERATOR.

WELL, THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW WITH RESOLUTION 24-10.

THAT IS THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

GOT TO SPEND A HALF $1 MILLION TO PUT IN A $50,000 GENERATOR.

YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

THERE'S NO OTHER WAY.

YOU KNOW, THESE THESE GENERATOR COMPANIES KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

THEY DO IT EVERY DAY.

THEY PUT GENERATORS IN TIGHT SPOTS ALL THE TIME.

BUT THE COMMISSION, THIS WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TWO WEEKS AGO SO THAT YOU WOULD RUBBER STAMP THAT HALF $1 MILLION EXPENDITURE.

I HOPE NOT. THIS IS A GROSS EXPENDITURE.

THERE'S MANY OTHER SOLUTIONS.

AND ONCE AND FOR ALL, I HOPE YOU VOTE THIS DOWN TONIGHT, PERIOD.

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END IT.

AND LET'S SEE WHAT STAFF COMES UP WITH IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO INSTALL A GENERATOR.

NOW THE NEXT THING IS ITEM 3B ABOUT AHERN STREET.

OKAY I'M GOING TO STAY ON BIKE, BIKE LANES BECAUSE IT'S A SMART THING TO DO.

YOU DIRECTED STAFF WEEKS AGO TO COME BACK WITH OTHER OPTIONS.

STAFF CAME BACK WITH TWO OTHER OPTIONS, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE REALLY WORKABLE BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE PARKING TO PARALLEL RATHER THAN ANGULAR.

AND THEY'VE YET TO SHOW A PLAN WITH DUAL BIKE LANES.

WELL, WAS GOING TO COME UP HERE ALSO ON ITEM 6B FROM PUBLIC WORKS, SCOTT WILLIAMS IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE PAVING PLAN.

WELL, IT DEALS WITH ROYAL PALM DRIVE AND SAILFISH FROM ATLANTIC BOULEVARD TO CAVALLO ROAD.

BOTH OF THOSE ROADS COULD OR SHOULD HAVE BIKE LANES IN FACT IN THE CONTINUITY PLAN IN THE CONTINUITY PLAN IT ACTUALLY SHOWS BIKE LANES FOR THAT.

THAT REALLY WIDE STRETCH OF ROYAL PALM DRIVE RIGHT THERE NEAR THE ABC STORE.

SOME OF Y'ALL MIGHT NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS, BUT BUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE RIDING BIKES FROM ROYAL PALM SUBDIVISION TO BOTH OF THOSE SHOPPING CENTERS WITH A HOST OF RESTAURANTS OR GOING OVER TO THE NEW DREAMETTE ON BICYCLES IS PHENOMENAL.

BUT THERE'S NO BIKE LANES.

THAT IS A 36 FOOT WIDE PAVED AREA ON ROYAL PALM DRIVE.

IT ONLY REQUIRES 20FT FOR TWO TRAFFIC LANES.

LOTS OF LOTS OF ROOM FOR TWO BIKE LANES THERE.

AND IT'S IN THE CONTINUITY PLAN.

WHEN ARE WE EVER GOING TO REFER TO THE CONTINUITY PLAN AND START PUTTING IT INTO PLACE? SO I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THAT FOR SCOTT WILLIAMS COMING UP HERE ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS.

I HOPE HE ADDS THE END ZONE FOR FIRST STREET, WHICH THE PAVEMENT HAS ERODED ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LIMESTONE AND THE TWO BLOCKS ON BEACH AVENUE FROM 14TH STREET TO 16TH STREET, WHICH IS IN FAR WORSE CONDITION THAN THE FIVE CUL DE SACS HE HAS LISTED.

BUT I'M IMAGINE HIS ROBOTICS PROGRAM DOESN'T QUITE CAPTURE THAT, BECAUSE BEACH AVENUE IS SO LONG AND I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT TWO BLOCKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. HARRELL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN IN TO SPEAK BUT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

IT'S YOURS.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO RAISE THEIR HAND? OKAY. NO TAKERS ON THAT.

SO WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR.

LET'S SEE.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM THREE.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

MR. CITY MANAGER.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION.

I THINK IT'S WHAT IS IT, 3A THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THERE ARE THREE CHANGES THAT OCCURRED IN THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

SINCE WE PUT THIS OUT AS A DRAFT REPORT, WE'VE ADDED AN ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE OUTREACH SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE FULL 45 ON WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20TH.

WE'VE ALSO ADDED A BRAZILIAN PEPPER TREE ROUNDUP HELD AT 9 A.M.

ON FRIDAY, MARCH 22ND AT TIDE VIEWS PRESERVE, AND A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR 6 P.M.

MONDAY, APRIL 15TH.

AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, THAT WOULD BE THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, I WROTE THAT DOWN.

WHAT IS THE BRAZILIAN PEPPER TREE? IT'S A IT'S AN INVASIVE PLANT.

WE'RE GOING TO RIP IT OUT.

THAT IS IN A NUTSHELL.

THE COMMUNITY COMES OUT THERE AND SO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM WILL BE OUT THERE.

OUR OUR PLANNING STAFF WILL BE OUT THERE AS WELL.

EXCUSE ME, AS WELL AS OTHER VOLUNTEERS.

AND YES, WE WILL MANUALLY EXTRACT THE BRAZILIAN PEPPER TREES AND YOU KNOW, PROCEED WITH THAT WITH WHATEVER PROCEDURES GO ALONG WITH IT, WHETHER IT'S CUTTING DOWN TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.

TO BE HONEST, I CAN'T TELL YOU SORRY YOU MISSED THE LAST TWO YEARS.

OH, WOW. OKAY. IT'S OKAY.

WE CAN GET YOU INVOLVED. I'LL BE THERE THIS TIME.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. KILLINGSWORTH, SO, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO ACCEPT THE 90 DAY CALENDAR, AS AMENDED? YES. OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR? OKAY. ITEM 3B.

ITEM 3B IF I THAT IS I BELIEVE.

YEP. IF WE CAN HAVE AMANDA COME UP.

HI. GOOD EVENING, AMANDA ASKEW, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING.

I'M GOING TO POP UP A PRESENTATION.

SO GIVE ME JUST A MINUTE.

SO THE FOLKS AT HOME.

AND KEVIN. I DON'T THINK IT'S OVER THERE.

WE CAN SHARE OUR SCREEN SO THAT THEY CAN SEE OUR PRESENTATION.

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YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT.

IT'S BEHIND THE RAGTIME PARKING LOT AND THE SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES TO THE NORTH.

IT IS A ON THE ZONING DISTRICT DIVIDE LINE.

WE HAVE AS I MENTIONED, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THEN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

WE HAVE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

WE EVEN HAD SOME ON SITE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

THIS IS PART OF THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY COMMISSION.

THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.

IT'S REALLY NOT WELL DEFINED.

IT'S CONFUSING. PEOPLE JUST PARK WHERE THEY THINK THERE'S A PARKING SPACE.

IT'S NOT SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS OR BICYCLISTS.

AND AGAIN IT DOES CAUSE A LITTLE BIT OF PROBLEMS BETWEEN THE PAY FOR PARKING AREA IN PRIVATE LOTS AND PAY FOR PARKING ON PUBLIC LOTS.

PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED AS TO WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY AND WHO.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL EMAILS WHERE PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE DOING CORRECTLY, AND THEN WE FIND OUT LATER THAT THEY'VE PAID THE WRONG KIOSK.

SO AGAIN, KIND OF SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE PARKING IN THE SITUATION LOOKS LIKE.

IT EBBS AND FLOWS. WE'RE GETTING READY TO COME INTO SOME BUSY SEASON, SO WE WILL EXPERIENCE A LOT OF VISITORS IN THIS AREA.

AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

PEOPLE JUST KIND OF PARK SOMETIMES THEY PARK CORRECTLY, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.

THEY WILL OFTENTIMES PARK ON THE SIDEWALK AND BLOCK THE INTERSECTION VISIBILITY THERE.

THIS IS IDENTIFIED IN THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN REALLY IDENTIFIED OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE CITY.

AND HOW TO, TO GET PEOPLE FROM PARKS TO OTHER AMENITIES, SCHOOLS AND OUR BEACHES, OUR MARSH.

AND THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS SAFELY.

SO THE THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN WAS TO START FORWARD THINKING ABOUT BUDGETING AND WHERE WE NEED TO SPEND OUR DOLLARS AND TO MAKE IT A SAFE PLACE AS PART OF OUR COMPLETE STREETS, TO GET PEOPLE SAFELY FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER.

IT IS PART OF A LARGER PROJECT.

ULTIMATELY, TO GO DOWN ON THE BACKSIDE OR NORTH OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD, PARALLEL ALONG STURDIVANT.

AND IT WOULD TIE INTO SEMINOLE ROAD AND SHERRY, THE SIDEWALKS, THE MULTI-USE PATHS THAT ENTER THERE OR INTERSECT AND TO GET PEOPLE EAST WEST FROM SEMINOLE TO THE BEACH OR THE TOWN CENTER AREA.

THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF SHOWED THESE POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS AND OUR CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

WE HAD AND WE DIDN'T HAVE SURVEYS OF ALL OF OUR PROPERTY.

SO WE KIND OF KNEW THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT NOT DOWN TO THE EXACT FOOT.

AND WE AGAIN, THE IDEA WAS TO SHOW THESE POSSIBLE CONNECTIONS AND HOW TO GET THERE, NOT NECESSARILY FINE TUNE THE DESIGN OF THEM, AND TO BE ABLE TO PUT ITEMS IN THE CIP TO HELP FUND THESE.

SO WE DID GET MONEY PUT IN THIS IN THE CIP BUDGET AND THE BUDGET TO FUND THIS AHERN THIS ONE BLOCK ON ALONG AHERN.

SO WE AND HERE'S MORE EXCERPTS OUT OF THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

WE HIRED SOME CONSULTANTS TO COME IN.

AGAIN, STAFF WERE KNOWLEDGEABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, SO WE HIRED CONSULTANTS TO COME IN.

THEY LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

IN AUGUST, WE AUTHORIZED THE CONSULTANT VIA COMMISSION APPROVAL TO GO FORWARD WITH OPTION ONE.

WE'RE BRINGING IT BACK MULTIPLE TIMES AGAIN TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

OPTION ONE IS THE OPTION THAT PROVIDES AN EIGHT FOOT MULTI-USE PATH ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, AND ALLOWS ANGLED PARKING.

WE WE WENT WITH THIS SCENARIO FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, THOUGH, IS THESE HOUSES AND I DON'T SEE MY MY MOUSE MOVING, BUT THE HOUSES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER ARE ON THE PROPERTY LINE. SO ALL THOSE FOLKS THERE ARE PARKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF BUFFER BETWEEN THOSE HOMES AND THE SIDEWALKS.

SO WE DID BUILD IN A TWO FOOT BUFFER THERE AND GO TO THE OTHER END OF THE STREET THERE, STILL ON THE NORTH SIDE.

WE HAD SOME RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ON STREET PARKING.

SO THIS DESIGN AND ALL DESIGNS WE BROUGHT FORWARD WOULD ALLOW THOSE RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE TO PARK THERE, THAT'S THEIR ONLY PARKING.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT BIKE LANES AND WE HAVE A A SCENARIO HERE.

IF WE DID THE BIKE LANES IN THIS PARTICULAR SCENARIO, WHICH WOULD BE A BIKE LANE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND A SIDEWALK, WE LOSE SOME OF

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AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY NECESSARY IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA.

THOSE PARKING SPACES, WE GET A LOT FEWER VERSUS HEAD END ANGLED PARKING.

WE ALSO HAD AN OPTION THREE, WHICH ALSO, LET'S SEE, HAD THAT SHARED PATH ON BOTH SIDES BUT HAD PARALLEL PARKING SPACES AS WELL INSTEAD OF HEAD END PARKING SPACES.

STAFF DID NOT FEEL LIKE A BIKE LANE WAS APPROPRIATE IN THIS LOCATION.

IT IS ONE BLOCK. THIS BLOCK IS 250FT LONG.

THE THE BIKE LANE WOULD NOT CONNECT TO ANY OTHER BIKE LANES.

OFTENTIMES BIKE LANES IF THEY ARE BEHIND A PARKING SPOT, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS TO BACK OUT THROUGH THE BIKE LANE.

SO STAFF HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST HAVE BEEN THE MULTI-PURPOSE USE LANES.

THE MOST OF OUR USERS ON THOSE LANES ARE YOUR TYPICAL BEACH CRUISERS, THE MOMS AND STROLLERS AND PEDESTRIANS.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT USE THOSE SHARED USE PATHS FOR THE CYCLIST, THE PROFESSIONAL CYCLISTS THAT YOU SEE IN THE [INAUDIBLE], M OST OF OUR MULTI-USE PATHS, AGAIN, ARE MORE OF THE RECREATIONAL TYPE BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO GO FORWARD WITH OPTION ONE TONIGHT AND GO TO OUR 60% DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT. AS PART OF THE 60% DESIGN, WE ARE LOOKING AT DRAINAGE.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO IN THE NEXT PHASE.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, ONE THING I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER IS YOU PROBABLY HEARD THIS.

THE PREDATORY TOWING BEHIND RAGTIME.

THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.

I KNOW WE WILL BE CLOSING THEIR ENTRANCE ALONG AHERN AND ADDING ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.

SO HOPEFULLY THE, THE TOWING, THE EXCESSIVE TOWING, IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE IN A PRIVATE PARKING LOT VERSUS A PUBLIC STREET.

YEAH. IT BEING ON THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY, I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE UNHAPPY BECAUSE WHAT PEOPLE DO IS THEY'LL PARK BEHIND RAGTIME, GO AROUND THE CORNER, RIGHT.

AND GO TO THE METER. LIKE MOST PEOPLE SAY, I GO AT THIS METER AND COME BACK TO THEIR CAR AND IT'S GONE TWO HOURS LATER.

I THINK THAT'S HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES.

SO I GUESS MY POINT IN ALL THIS IS WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY IT, YOU KNOW, AND AND BY SIGNAGE, BY COLOR, BY EVER.

BECAUSE A NORMAL VISITOR TO TOWN CENTER WOULD NOT KNOW THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC PARKING.

YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

TRYING TO DETERMINE THE LIMITATIONS BOUNDARIES OF THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE.

THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK, THE TRAFFIC EVALUATION, EVERYTHING.

WAS THIS NOT GOING TO COME IN FRONT OF THE [INAUDIBLE] COMMITTEE? [INAUDIBLE] WAS IT A TIME THING? WAS IT GIVING THEM TOO MUCH RIGHT NOW TO HANDLE OR WHY WASN'T IT BROUGHT TO THEM.

THEY'RE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT SPECIFIC SITE BY SITE PROJECTS.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT AN OVERALL GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THE CITY.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO IT ACTUALLY STARTED BEFORE THE STOP COMMITTEE.

GOTCHA. WELL, THANKS. I WANT YOU TO ANSWER THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. I HAVE A QUESTION.

AMANDA, CAN YOU GO BACK A FEW SLIDES TO THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HEAD ON INSTEAD OF AERIAL VIEW.

KEEP GOING.

IT'S IN THE BEGINNING.

CLOSER TO THE BEGINNING.

THIS ONE? NO, I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO THE AHERN CROSS SECTION THAT'S IN THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

OKAY. THAT.

THERE WE GO.

SO I SEE THE BIKE LANE IN THE GREEN AND THEN UP AT THE TOP, THE BIKE LANE.

I KNOW YOU SAID WE JUST DON'T HAVE SPACE FOR THE.

IS THAT IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT THERE'S JUST NO SPACE FOR THAT.

IT'S THE MULTI-USE PATHWAY.

YOU CAN MAKE SPACE IN THERE.

DEFINITELY. WE HAVE 57FT OF RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT AREA.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE AGAIN WAS A GENERAL GENERALIZATION OF WHAT POSSIBLY COULD FIT IN THAT AREA.

THIS ONE HAS A BIKE LANE IN ONE DIRECTION.

SO I MEAN, REALITY IS THAT REALLY WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS IS ONE BIKE LANE IN THE DIRECTION.

SO THIS PROPOSED SCENARIO WAS A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK, A FOUR FOOT BIKE LANE WITH A SEPARATION.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU WANT SOME TYPE OF SEPARATION BETWEEN YOUR BIKE LANE AND THE TRAVEL LANE, AND THEN TWO TRAVEL LANES.

AND THEN THAT WAS AN 18 FOOT PARKING SPACE WITH A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK.

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I THINK THE ANGLE PARKING IS BETTER THAN THE PARALLEL.

WE WOULD LOSE A COUPLE OF SPACES THERE, BUT THE EIGHT FOOT MULTI-PURPOSE AND YOU'RE THINKING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED WITH BOTH BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS STROLLERS.

EVERYONE'S GOING TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S BEST, LIKE SAFETY WISE, I DO.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE UP AND DOWN, SEMINOLE AND SHERRY THAT YOU SEE THEM THEY'RE USING OUR MULTI USE PATHS.

BUT IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING YOU CAN BUILD IT, YOU CAN MAKE IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE.

BUT SOMETIMES YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE PEOPLE THAT RIDE THEIR BIKES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET OR WALK DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

YEAH. BUT IT IS IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK WE FELT IT'S SAFER NOT TO HAVE THE BIKE LANE ON IN THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK.

WE LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, AS A CONTEXT WITH THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT'S GOING TO FIT INTO THE NEXT PHASE OF THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

AND JUST STAFF FELT THAT THERE WAS TOO MANY CONFLICTING DRIVERS AND PARKING.

AND THE VOLUME WOULD NOT WORK WITH A BIKE LANE.

I WOULD AGREE THE VOLUMES GOING TO INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY WITH 42 EAST COAST BUILDING GOING IN.

SO YOU SAID THE PHASE TWO CONNECTIVITY, AND THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER PORTION OF AHERN THAT THEN CONTINUES OUT TO STURTEVANT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? YES, WE HAVE THAT. THAT'S PHASE TWO OF THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE WE HAVE SOME MONEY THAT WE'VE PAID FOR A SURVEY TO HAVE THAT AREA SURVEYED.

THAT RIGHT OF WAY IN THERE IS DEFINITELY A VARIABLE.

WE'D LIKE TO THINK IT'S ALL THE SAME, BUT IT IS VARIABLE.

SO WE ARE STARTING THAT PROCESS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO IN THAT CONTEXT.

AND THAT IS RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO DO A SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES.

AGAIN, WE TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM A LENS.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP THE STREET THAT KEEPS THIS THE PROJECT COST ON THAT SECTION DOWN A LITTLE BIT? THIS PROPOSED AREA, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A LOT OF PAVEMENT WORK AND DRAINAGE WORK.

BUT THE PHASE TWO, WE WERE TRYING TO BE CONSCIENTIOUS AND NOT MOVE THE STREET AND KEEP THAT PROJECT DOWN.

SO IT WOULD ONLY BE ROOM FOR ONE TYPE OF PATH ON THAT.

OKAY, ONE MORE QUESTION SORRY.

WITH THE PARKING, WHEN WE DO UTILIZE THAT SPACE, ARE WE GOING TO ARE WE GOING TO USE FLOWBIRD APP OR LIKE A SPECIAL KIOSK? THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DISCUSSED.

I MEAN, I KNOW IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE PAY FOR PARKING PROGRAM, THE PUBLIC PAY FOR PARKING PROGRAM, I BELIEVE WE USE THE FLOWBIRD APP.

IT WOULD NEED TO BE SIGNED APPROPRIATELY.

YEAH. THEY JUST PAINTED IN THOSE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE I'VE HAD PLENTY OF FRIENDS WHO'VE NOW BEEN TOWED IN THAT RAGTIME PARKING LOT, AND IT'S AND THEY'VE PAID FOR PARKING, BUT THEY PAID ONLINE OR THE WRONG DOT, WHATEVER THE CASE IS.

SO AND I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THAT IF YOU GO BACK TO THESE PICTURES, MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER ONE.

LIKE WHERE THE RED CAR BURGUNDY CAR IS, YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT LOT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PAY IN AND I CAN SEE WHERE IT'S VERY CONFUSING.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AMANDA, YOU REALLY HAVE TO PUT THIS IN SCOPE.

THIS IS NOT A MAJOR ROAD, YOU KNOW, GOING EAST.

WEST. THIS IS FROM IF YOU IF THE NUMBER OF FEET, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT WHITE CAR IN THE PARKING LOT STRAIGHT OUT, THAT'S ABOUT THE DISTANCE.

IT'S REALLY JUST A PATHWAY IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROADS.

RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK LIKE I SAID, I'M AN OPTION ONE GUY I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT WE MOVE ON AND GET, YOU KNOW, THE PROFESSIONALS TO GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, AN 80% SOLUTION.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. AND I DON'T.

I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT WHILE WE WERE DEVELOPING OUR CONNECTIVITY PLAN, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN DIALOG ABOUT BIKE LANES, NOT BIKE LANES AND SO ON. AND I THINK WE HAD INTENDED TO DO SOME BIKE LANES.

HOWEVER, AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE LITERALLY HAVE NO BIKE LANES IN THE CITY THAT I KNOW OF.

IF IF WE DO.

THAT'S RIGHT. THE ONLY ONES.

EXCUSE ME, MIRANDA, THE ONLY ONES, MR. MAYOR, ARE BIKE LANES THAT ARE ON STATE OWNED FACILITIES, NOT ON CITY OWNED FACILITIES.

SO NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT APPLICABLE TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WE LOOK WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH MAIN STREET IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS MAKING BIKE LANES ON MAIN STREET.

I REMEMBER THAT AS A TRAFFIC CONE.

WELL NOT TRUE.

IT WAS ALL PART AND PARCEL.

BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT SEGMENT OF AHERN STREET FROM EAST COAST TO SHERRY.

COULD. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ON A VERY SHORT STRETCH OF AHERN STREET.

CAN'T BE MORE THAN IT'S 250FT LONG OKAY, BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THAT LONG STRETCH ON THE REST OF AHERN.

AND IF YOU DID HAVE 1 OR 2 BIKE LANES ON THIS SHORT STRETCH, IS IT CONCEIVABLE THAT YOU WOULD CONNECT THAT TO BIKE LANES

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IT'S CONCEIVABLE.

YOU COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH A LOT OF MONEY TO REDO YOU KNOW, THAT SECTION OF STURDEVANT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WERE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH THE LENS AND ONLY HAVE ABOUT 8 TO 9FT OF RIGHT OF WAY AVAILABLE TO PUT SOMETHING IN.

SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THAT WHOLE SECTION COULD BE ONE BIKE LANE, IF YOU WILL.

OR IT COULD BE A MULTI USE PATH WITHOUT ADDING THE COST OF RECONSTRUCTING THE ROAD TO IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING.

THAT'S STURDEVANT, NOT AHERN.

IT CHANGES WHEN YOU GET ACROSS OCEAN OR EAST COAST, IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR. SO I THINK MOVING FURTHER WEST ON AHERN, THE ROAD THERE IS STILL HIGHLY CONSTRAINED.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DRIVEWAYS, BIKE LANES THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT THE BEST OPTION FOR ROADS LIKE ROYAL PALM, FOR PLAZA, SOME OTHER ROADS THAT WE HAVE MORE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY'RE NOT AS CONSTRAINED.

I THINK BIKE LANE BIKE LANES ARE APPROPRIATE THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS, WHAT THEY'LL TELL YOU IS IF THE ROAD IS LESS THAN 25 MILES AN HOUR, THERE'S LESS THAN [INAUDIBLE] LESS THAN ACTUALLY 3,000 DAILY TRIPS.

AND AHERN RIGHT NOW ON, IT HAS LESS THAN 1,000 DAILY TRIPS.

BUT BIKE LANES, BIKE LANES ARE NOT YOUR MOST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.

THE REALITY IS, IS SOMEBODY WHO USED TO RIDE QUITE A BIT AND DID CENTURIES, WHICH ARE 100 MILE BIKE RIDES.

I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS WHO WORE SPANDEX AND SHAVED MY LEGS AND PUT ON A JERSEY.

I SAID IT IN PUBLIC QUITE FRANKLY, ON A ROAD LIKE AHERN AND MANY OF THE ROADS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF YOU'RE ON A SUB 25 MILE AN HOUR ROAD AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE RIDING IN THE ROAD, THE BEST PLACE FOR YOU TO BE IS THE CENTER OF THAT LANE, JUST LIKE A MOTORCYCLE, BECAUSE CARS ARE LOOKING FOR YOU THERE.

THE CHALLENGE WITH A BIKE LANE IN AN AREA THAT HAS PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS THE BIKES ARE CLOSE TO THE PARKED CARS AND AS THEY'RE MOVING, CARS TRYING TO GET OUT OR NOT LOOKING FOR THEM AND PROBABLY CAN'T SEE THEM.

MY WORST NIGHTMARE, BECAUSE I USED TO RIDE SAN JOSE PRETTY FREQUENTLY AND THEY HAVE PARKED CARS, PARALLEL PARKED CARS ON THAT ROAD IS SOMEBODY WOULD OPEN A DOOR AS I'M RIDING 20 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE I'M LOOKING OVER MY LEFT SHOULDER TO SEE WHAT THE CAR IS GOING 55 MILES AN HOUR DURING.

I'M NOT WATCHING THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED, AND IF ONE OF THOSE DOORS OPENS UP, I'M CAREENING OVER THE DOOR HANDLES.

SO IT'S IT'S NOT THAT STAFF OR I FOR THAT MATTER, ARE OPPOSED TO BIKE LANES IS JUST, IN SOME PLACES THE CONTEXT NOT APPROPRIATE.

THIS IS AN AREA WHERE IT'S HIGHLY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED.

WE'RE CONSTRAINED.

WE DO HAVE REAL PARKING NEEDS THAT NEED TO BE MET.

AND THIS, LIKE ALL SOLUTIONS, IS JUST A COMPROMISE OF VARIOUS SOURCES.

AND I LOOKED AT HOW TO HOW TO DO IT.

THERE'S NOT A WAY WITHIN THE 57FT TO PUT IN TWO BIKE LANES.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME WHO THINKS THERE IS, BUT ONCE YOU ONCE YOU COUNT IN THE TWO FOOT LANE CURBS THE FACT THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIKE LANE THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO PARKING, THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE A BUFFERED BIKE LANE BY DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH MEANS IT'S AT LEAST A FIVE FOOT LANE WITH A ONE FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN IT AND THE PARK. SO NOW YOU'RE AT SIX FOOT.

IT ALL JUST DOESN'T FIT.

AND SO THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE MAKE IT THE BEST.

AND I THINK THE SCENARIO IN OPTION ONE IS THAT IS THAT BEST COMPROMISE.

SO NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT WHAT'S THE DELTA BETWEEN THE PARKING SPACES ON OPTION ONE AND THE PARKING SPACES IF YOU PUT IN THE ONE BIKE LANE BECAUSE YOU HAD TO GO TO PARALLEL PARKING, I THINK.

SO THIS ADDED 8 TO 9 ANGLED PARKING SPACES HERE.

AND THAT'S WITH IT'S NOT SHOWN HERE.

THE, THE RAGTIME ENTRANCE CLOSED ALONG AHERN.

RIGHT. AND THEN THIS OPTION YOU'RE TALKING HERE.

SO THIS WOULD BE 12345, SIX PARKING SPACES.

SO THAT'S THE DELTA.

WE WOULD LOSE.

WE WOULD LOSE SIX SPACES.

PROBABLY NINE BECAUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO OPTION ONE, THAT ENTRANCE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKING IS WHAT'S GOING.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DISTANCE, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 25FT.

PLUS YOU HAVE THE ISLANDS ON BOTH SIDES OF IT, QUITE LIKELY WE COULD GET THREE ADDITIONAL DIAGONAL PARKING SPACES IN THERE, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE DELTA, WHAT, NINE? OKAY. OR SIX.

YEAH, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

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YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THIS PROJECT.

YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE BUDGET.

NOW, THIS CAME BACK TWO WEEKS AGO WHENEVER WE FIRST BROUGHT IT BACK UP, BECAUSE WE WERE AT 30% DESIGN OF AN APPROVED CONCEPT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COME BACK AT 60% AND 90% AND THEN IT'LL MOVE INTO CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY. SO COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPTION ONE? YES, YES, YOU HAVE YOUR CONSENSUS.

THANK YOU.

[INAUDIBLE] GIVE ME JUST A SECOND, MR. MAYOR. I NEED SOME WATER.

OKAY.

MIC] SO WHILE WE'RE WHILE WE'RE WAITING.

I'M NOT THE ENTERTAINMENT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

BUT I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAD A DELAYED FIRST DAY OF BASEBALL IN OUR HOWELL PARK ON THIS PAST SATURDAY.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WEEK THE SATURDAY BEFORE, BUT WE HAD WE GOT RAINED OUT AND IT WAS ONCE AGAIN, AN EXTRAORDINARY EVENT.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT TO SEE THE KIDS, WE HAD 36 TEAMS LINE UP IN THE IN THE BALL FIELD.

SO WE HAVE HUGE ENGAGEMENT BY OUR CITIZENS, OUR PARENTS, OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR CHILDREN.

THEY REALLY LOOK SHARP OUT THERE.

I THREW OUT THE FIRST PITCH.

I ACTUALLY GOT IT CLOSE TO HOME PLATE.

NOT QUITE OVER HOME PLATE, BUT.

IS THERE VIDEO, MR. MAYOR? NO, THERE'S NO VIDEO.

AND I'M NOT WEARING SPANDEX, SO.

I'M SORRY, BUT I DO WANT TO CELEBRATE OUR OWN, VERY OWN BISHOP GOLDEN LED OFF WITH THE INVOCATION TO OPEN BASEBALL FOR THE SEASON. AND JERRY HOLLAND WAS THE OFFICIATING RESPONSIBLE ADULT THERE.

SO IT WAS REALLY A GOOD DAY AND GOOD FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

ARE YOU READY? I THINK WE'RE READY, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, SO THIS PRESENTATION IS TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE.

THERE'S A RESOLUTION COMING UP LATER ON, WHICH IS TO GO OVER YOUR PRIORITIES.

AND SO THIS PRESENTATION WILL SERVE TO CAPTURE WHAT I DID WITH YOUR PRIORITIES.

HOPEFULLY YOU YOU APPROVE OF IT? THE OTHER IS I HAD BEEN THINKING SINCE I STARTED ON ON HOW TO MANAGE DAILY OPERATIONS AND KIND OF GET A BETTER HANDLE OF WHERE OUR LONG TERM FINANCIAL PICTURE IS.

SO I DO HAVE DISTINCT IDEAS ON THAT.

AND I THREW THOSE IDEAS IN HERE BECAUSE AS YOU'LL SEE.

OR IT DOESN'T WORK UNDER THE TABLE.

THERE'S AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON THE ON THE SLIDE HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE VIDEO OF THE PODIUM THERE.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M CALLING THE CIRCLE OF LIFE IN TERMS OF OUR, OF OUR CITY BUDGET AND PROCESSES.

AND THE FIRST ONE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THEMES, PRIORITIES AND AND PROJECTS.

[INAUDIBLE] SO THIS UPSIDE DOWN TRIANGLE IS REALLY KIND OF A CONCEPT OF A HIERARCHY OF OUTCOMES.

SO I'M WHAT I'M CALLING THE TOPMOST OUT PRIORITY OR THE TOP MOST OUTCOME IS THEMES.

THESE ARE LONG TERM OUTCOMES.

THESE ARE OUTCOMES THAT MAY TAKE 10 TO 20 YEARS.

SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THAT WE NEED TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THE VISION THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED.

THE NEXT THING DOWN IS PRIORITIES, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'VE WORKED ON AND YOU'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

IN THE PAST, THEY'VE BEEN ANNUAL PRIORITIES.

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AND THEN THE FINAL THING ON THAT, THE SMALLEST IS THE BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON A DAY TO DAY OPERATION.

QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S ME MANAGING THE CITY.

THE TOP THREE ARE YOU DIRECTING ME WHERE TO LEAD THE CITY TO.

BUT IT ALSO THE BOTTOM ONE, THE BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO IMPLEMENTING THE MISSION, AND I WILL GET TO THE MISSION IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE VISION AND I CAN'T READ THAT UP THERE.

SO I'M GOING TO CHEAT HERE.

I DO WANT TO READ THE VISION, BECAUSE I THINK YOUR VISION IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD.

I, I THINK IT'S ASPIRATIONAL.

IT'S USES GOOD ADJECTIVES IN TERMS OF DEFINING WHERE YOU WANT TO BE.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT VERBATIM AND THEN IT KEYS INTO THE THEMES.

SO THE CITY'S VISION IS IN ATLANTIC BEACH WE HAVE A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING AND SAFETY.

OUR CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENT CARE DEEPLY ABOUT COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND UNDERSTAND THAT UNIFIED SUPPORT IS REQUIRED TO PRESERVE IT.

WE ARE GRACED WITH THE FUNCTIONAL BEAUTY OF OUR BEACH, OUR MARSH AND OUR TREE CANOPY.

OUR SHADY STREETS AND MULTI-USE PATHS CONNECT OUR CONNECT, OUR WELCOMING NEIGHBORHOODS AND VIBRANT LOCAL BUSINESSES.

OUR CITY SUPPORTS OUR DIVERSE, MULTIGENERATIONAL, SOCIALLY LINKED COMMUNITY WITH GREEN SPACES, ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, PARKS AND PROGRAMING.

SO THIS IS WHAT MY RESOLUTION, WHICH YOU ALL ADOPTED AS THE VISION.

SO WHAT I DID AS THE NEXT STEP TO CONVERT IT TO THE THEMES WAS TO TAKE THAT VISION AND ACTUALLY MAKE GOALS FOR THOSE.

AND SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW I CATEGORIZE THE THEMES IS A WE HAVE CREATE A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING, PRESERVE COMMUNITY CHARACTER, CONNECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES, PROMOTE A SOCIALLY LINKED COMMUNITY THROUGH GREEN SPACES, ACTIVE LIFESTYLE PARKS AND PROGRAMING. AND THEN THIS ONE ISN'T IN YOUR VISION, BUT IT'S ESSENTIAL TO ACHIEVING YOUR VISION.

AND THAT'S MAINTAIN A STRONG FINANCIAL CONDITIONS SUITABLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S VISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF CREATIVITY ON MY PART BECAUSE I JUST TOOK WHAT YOU SAID AND I CONVERTED THEM INTO GOALS.

AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE 10 TO 20 YEAR GOALS THAT THIS COMMISSION SET FOR THE CITY AND THE DIRECTION IN WHICH YOU'VE GIVEN STAFF TO GO.

SO THEN YOU HAD A PRIORITY MEETING.

AND WHAT I CAN SAY IS, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT HAD A DOT IN IT IS REPRESENTED HERE.

WE DID NOT I DID NOT END UP CROSSING THEM OUT BASED ON HOW MANY DOTS THEY GOT.

AND SO STARTING OUT WITH A STRONG SENSE OF PLACE, YOU GUYS HAVE HAD THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.

AND SO IN ORDER FOR SOME BREVITY, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROJECTS.

THE PROJECTS ARE LISTED THERE.

IT SAYS WHO WILL DO IT, WHAT THEY WILL DO AND WHEN THEY WILL DO IT BY.

SOME OF THE PROJECTS HAVE DATES THAT PREDATE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, SOME OF YOUR PRIORITIES WERE MORE SHORT TERM.

THEY WERE REALLY THINGS WE WERE WORKING ON ALREADY.

BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND NEXT CYCLE I'LL HELP COACH YOU TO GET TO PRIORITIES THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE STRETCH AND REQUIRE A LITTLE MORE WORK TO ACHIEVE.

BUT I WILL GO THROUGH THE PRIORITY LIST HERE.

SO UNDER THE THEME OF CREATING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING AND SAFETY, WE HAVE INCREASED AWARENESS OF BICYCLE SAFETY AND BICYCLE LAWS.

WE ALSO HAVE DEVELOP A CUSTOMER CENTRIC CULTURE.

UNDER PRESERVE COMMUNITY CHARACTER WE HAVE REVIEW OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT POLICIES, E STABLISH POLICIES TO PRESERVE THE MARSH FRONT.

AND THEN UNDER CONNECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE BE RANKED A GOLD STANDARD BIKE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AND PRIORITIZE PROJECTS TO IMPLEMENT THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN.

UNDER PROMOTE A SOCIALLY LINKED COMMUNITY THROUGH GREEN SPACE, ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, PARKS AND PROGRAMING, WE HAVE CREATED A PLAN TO REMEDY GAPS IN PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING.

PRIORITIZE PROJECTS TO IMPLEMENT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN UNDER MAINTAIN A STRONG FINANCIAL CONDITION SUITABLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S VISION.

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WE ALSO HAVE CULTIVATE RELATIONSHIPS TO DEMONSTRATE THE NEED FOR RESOURCES AND COOPERATION.

USE DATA AND BUDGET ANALYSIS TO UNDERSTAND FISCAL EFFECTS PRIOR TO A BUDGET APPROVAL.

AND ACTUALLY, WHEN I GET TO THE END, SOME OF THAT MAY HELP HERE.

PROVIDE REGULAR UPDATES ON PROJECT TIMELINES AND FINANCES.

SO THOSE WERE THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU HAD IDENTIFIED AND THEN UNDER EACH OF THOSE PRIORITIES, I HAVE WORKED WITH THE DIRECTORS AND IDENTIFIED WHO WOULD DO IT, WHAT THEY WOULD DO AND WHEN TO IMPLEMENT THOSE PRIORITIES.

SO WHEN WE GET ON TO [INAUDIBLE].

T HE NEXT TWO PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THEN FINANCIAL CONDITION INDICATORS.

THOSE ARE REALLY A STATUS OF WHERE THE CITY IS RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF OUR OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE AND OUR THINGS THAT ARE OF CONCERN IN TERMS OF FINANCE.

SO BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS.

BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS ARE WHAT FULFILL THE MISSION.

THEY DON'T FULFILL OUR VISION.

THESE ARE THE THINGS WE DO ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.

THEY RELY ON THE MISSION, THOUGH, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO FULFILL IT, YOU RELY ON THE MISSION.

EFFECTIVE MISSIONS ARE MEMORABLE.

THEY HAVE TO BE RECITABLE AND THEY HAVE TO BE.

THE NEXT TWO ARE REALLY KIND OF THE SAME CONCEPT.

THEY HAVE TO BE USABLE IN TERMS OF TESTING AND PROPOSING ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO.

IF AN EMPLOYEE DOES SOMETHING OR PROPOSES SOMETHING, I NEED TO BE ABLE TO ASK, HOW DOES THIS IMPLEMENT THE VISION? [INAUDIBLE] AND QUITE FRANKLY, I WON'T BE AS FRIENDLY TOWARDS YOUR MISSION STATEMENT AS I WAS YOUR VISION STATEMENT.

I COULDN'T REPEAT YOUR MISSION STATEMENT.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS WAS TESTABLE.

SO I WILL GET TO THE NEXT POINT.

BUT HOW THIS IS USED IS THE MISSION IS HOW YOU'VE DIRECTED ME TO OPERATE THE CITY IN A REALLY BROAD SCALE.

THAT MISSION, EACH OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL THEN IDENTIFY THEIR MISSION, THEIR ACTIONS ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO IMPLEMENT THAT MISSION. UNDERNEATH THAT, THEY WILL IDENTIFY THE KEY PROCESSES THAT IMPACT HOW THEY IMPLEMENT OUR MISSION, SO THAT THOSE PROCESSES LINK ALL THE WAY TO FULFILLING OUR, OUR MISSION AS A WHOLE.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY WILL IDENTIFY THE KEY PROCESSES.

THOSE SHOULD FOLLOW THE PARETO PRINCIPLE.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT GETTING IN THE WEEDS ON EVERYTHING WE DO.

IT'S ABOUT IDENTIFYING THOSE 20% OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE DO THAT MAKE UP 80% OF OUR EFFORT OR.

LEAD TO CATASTROPHE IF WE FAIL AT IT.

RIGHT. SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T, ON A DAILY BASIS, TAKE A LOT OF EFFORT FROM US.

BUT IF FAILING AT THAT LEADS TO CATASTROPHE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED.

OKAY. SO I GUESS IN A SENSE I AM SELLING THIS AS THE MISSION, BUT I'M NOT SOLD ON IT.

IF YOU HAVE OBJECTIONS.

BUT AS I WAS LOOKING AT THE MISSION AND LOOKING AT, I THINK WHAT THE INTENT OF IT WAS, THIS IS WHAT KIND OF CAME OUT FOR ME.

JUST AND IT'S SIMPLE, IT'S QUOTABLE AND IT'S TESTABLE.

THE PLACE TO BE FOR EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SERVICES.

SO IF SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COMMISSIONER WATERS LOOKING AT ME, AND JUST RECENTLY WE HAD A TREE TRIMMING INCIDENT.

I CAN LOOK AT SOMEBODY AND GO, DOES THIS CREATE THE PLACE WHERE WE WANT TO BE? AND WAS IT CONDUCTED THROUGH EXCEPTIONAL PUBLIC SERVICES? AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION TRUTHFULLY AND WITH A STRAIGHT FACE.

AND I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE SAME THING UP TO THE FIVE OF EACH OF YOU.

SO THE WAY WE MONITOR THOSE PROCESSES IS THROUGH PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

AND THESE PERFORMANCE MEASURES WILL BE INDICATORS OF THEY NEED TO BE AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING THREE THINGS, IDEALLY ALL THREE.

BUT THEY NEED TO MEASURE QUALITY, COST AND DELIVERY MEASURES, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY TIME.

THE RISK OF ONLY MEASURING ONE IS THAT YOU CHEAT AND ALLOW.

SO IF IF YOU SAY QUALITY AND COST ARE THE ONLY THINGS WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE, AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO PUSH, WHAT YOU'LL FIND OUT IS YOUR DELIVERY TIME GOES

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THE OTHER THING THAT A PERFORMANCE MEASURE SHOULDN'T DO IS THEY SHOULDN'T COME AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE.

IF YOU IF WE ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE MEASURES THAT COME AT THE EXPENSE OF PEOPLE, PRINCIPALLY STAFF, THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO TO CHEAT.

RIGHT. AND THE INTENT HERE IS NOT TO CREATE WORK, IT'S TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES.

AND I'LL TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE MISTAKES.

BUT SEEING HOW I'M HERE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY IT.

ONE OF THE MISTAKES THAT I'VE SEEN WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, PARTICULARLY PROCESS MANAGEMENT, IS THEY TIE THE PROCESS MANAGEMENT TO PERFORMANCE EVALUATIONS. AND THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS.

IF YOU IF YOU DO THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE NUMBERS YOU WANT BECAUSE THEIR PAY IS TIED TO IT.

AND IF THEY'RE HONEST AND THEY GET PUNISHED FOR IT, THEN THEY WON'T HONESTLY EVALUATE THE PROCESS AND THE DATA THAT THEY'RE COLLECTING.

SO WHICH LEADS ME TO WHY AND WHAT? OH, THERE WE GO.

ACTION LIMITS.

SO THESE PROCESS MEASURES ESTABLISH BOTH A CENTRAL TENDENCY OR MEAN AND THE VARIANCE.

THE VARIANCE IS THE ACTION LIMIT.

SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT.

AND TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF PERMITTING I LIKE TO PICK.

IT'S NOT THAT I LIKE TO PICK ON AMANDA A LOT.

IT'S JUST THAT'S THE WORLD I KNOW.

SO IT AND SHE'S GONE HOME SO SHE CAN'T HEAR ME.

THANK YOU. OH.

SHE'S HIDING. IS SO.

SO BUILDING. BUILDING PERMITS AS A PROCESS, RIGHT? SAY. WE SAY ON AVERAGE, WE WANT BUILDING PERMITS TO GO OUT WITHIN TEN DAYS, TO BE APPROVED WITHIN TEN DAYS.

AND OUR VARIANCE IS IS ONE DAY.

SO TWO STANDARD DEVIATIONS AWAY FROM THE MEAN.

THAT MEANS IF WE GET SOMETHING OUT IN EIGHT DAYS OR 12 DAYS, WE'VE KIND OF MET OUR PERFORMANCE STANDARD.

IF SOMETHING POPS OUT 14 DAYS, THEN THEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE AN ABERRATION.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE WEIRD BECAUSE YOU GO, WELL, THE IDEA IS YOU NEED TO DO TEN DAYS, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL YOU'RE TRYING.

YOU'RE STRIVING FOR.

THERE WILL BE VARIATION IN ANY PROCESS, SO YOU HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT A WHAT ACTION LIMITS YOU WANT TO SET.

NOW, CLEARLY IF THE STATE COMES BACK AND SAYS BY STATUTE, NOW WE HAVE TO ISSUE PERMITS WITHIN TEN DAYS.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE HAVE TO REESTABLISH OUR GOAL AND SET OUR GOAL LOWER AND HAVE A VARIANCE WITHIN THAT GOAL THAT WILL MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS MOST OF THE TIME.

SO I'M GOING TO GO BECAUSE I KIND OF HIT ALL OF THESE POINTS REAL QUICK.

THE GOALS REALLY ARE.

THE KEY POINT OF ALL OF THIS IS TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

IF THE PROCESS IS WITHIN ITS ACTION LIMITS, IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

IT'S LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

THE PROCESS IS DOING WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET A DIFFERENT RESULT IS TO REDESIGN THE PROCESS BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS DOING IF IT'S WITHIN THE VARIANCE, IT'S DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO. SO IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THE MEAN IS, OR YOU WANT TO NARROW THAT VARIANCE, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE PROCESS.

AND TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

BUT. SO I KIND OF HIT SOME COMMON MISTAKES HERE.

THE ONE IS, PEOPLE PUT STUFF LIKE THIS IN PLACE AND THEN DON'T REVIEW IT.

IF YOU DON'T REVIEW IT, THEN IT JUST BECOMES BUSY WORK.

AND WHAT'S THE POINT? THE OTHER IS I HIT ON IT BRIEFLY, IS FOLLOW THE PARETO PRINCIPLE.

IF YOU MEASURE TOO MUCH, THEN NOTHING'S IMPORTANT.

YOU REALLY HAVE TO FOCUS ON WHAT THOSE FEW KEY THINGS ARE.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE ORGANIZATION.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, SOMETIMES WHAT YOU'LL FIND IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WEREN'T IMPORTANT THAT YOU WEREN'T MONITORING JUST KIND OF GO AWAY.

AND THEN. THIS.

THIS TIES BACK TO THAT IDEA OF NOT USING PERFORMANCE MEASURES TO LINK TO EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL SELECT A SAFE MEASURE.

SO THEY'LL PICK A MEASURE THAT THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO ACHIEVE THAT THERE'S NO VARIANCE TO.

AND THEN WE'VE ACHIEVED NOTHING.

WE'VE JUST DONE BUSY WORK.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT TO PUNISH OR REWARD PEOPLE, IT'S JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES, UNDERSTAND HOW THEY WORK, AND THEN HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DATA TO CHANGE THEM.

SHOULD CHANGE BE NEEDED? WHICH LEADS ME TO FINANCIAL INDICATORS.

SO THE FINANCIAL INDICATORS ARE REALLY ABOUT MONITORING OUR FINANCIAL CONDITION, THE FINANCIAL CONDITION I'M GOING TO START OUT WITH WHAT IT'S NOT FINANCIAL CONDITION IS NOT AN ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

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AND IT'S NOT JUST FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

WHAT IT IS, IS A SERIES OF MEASURES THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND, IN THE LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET OUR EXISTING SERVICE LEVELS, WITHSTAND ECONOMIC DISRUPTIONS, WHICH IS ECONOMIC RESILIENCE, AND TO BE ABLE TO MEET ANY NEEDS IN REGARDS TO CHANGE.

SO WE DO THAT THROUGH A FINANCIAL TREND MONITORING SYSTEM.

WHAT IT IS IS IT'S IT IDENTIFIES THE FACTORS THAT WE CAN MONITOR IN ORDER TO PUT TOGETHER THAT CONDITIONS SYSTEM, WHICH IS THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS, OUR EXISTING SERVICE LEVELS, WITHSTAND ECONOMIC DISRUPTION AND MEET FUTURE NEEDS.

INDICATORS ARE MADE UP OF ENVIRONMENTAL, ORGANIZATIONAL AND FINANCIAL FACTORS.

ENVIRONMENTAL IS THINGS LIKE POPULATION, HOUSING UNITS NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON A ON A ASSISTANCE.

ORGANIZATION, OR IT WOULD BE LIKE CITY POLICIES AND HOW THEY IMPACT OUR FINANCES.

AND THEN FINANCIAL FACTORS ARE OBVIOUSLY THINGS THAT ARE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM A FINANCIAL SPREADSHEET.

SO WHAT IT HELPS US DO IS A IT HELPS US INTRODUCE LONG RANGE CONSIDERATIONS INTO OUR BUDGET PROCESS.

BECAUSE THE INDICATORS EACH INDIVIDUAL YEAR IS NOT IMPORTANT, WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE TREND.

BECAUSE AND I'LL GET TO SOME EXAMPLES IN THE IN A COUPLE OF SLIDES.

BUT IT'S THE TREND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S THE TREND THAT GIVES US AN INDICATION THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE SOMETHING.

IT DOESN'T TELL US THAT SOMETHING'S RIGHT OR WRONG OR GOING WELL OR GOING WRONG.

IT JUST SAYS, HEY, LOOK AT ME.

IT'S A CANARY THAT IS SINGING, AND IF IT STOPS SINGING, THEN YOU NEED TO ASK WHY.

AND THE ADVANTAGE TO IT IS TYPICALLY THEY THROW OFF AN INDICATION BEFORE ANYTHING BAD HAPPENS.

AND SO WE HAVE TIME TO RESPOND TO IT AND TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR IT.

SO SOME EXAMPLES OF CONDITIONS INDICATORS IS REVENUES PER CAPITA IN CONSTANT DOLLARS.

SO IF THE REVENUE PER CAPITA IN CONSTANT DOLLARS IS GOING UP, THAT MAY BE A GOOD THING.

IF IT'S GOING DOWN THAT MAY BE A BAD THING.

BUT IF IT'S GOING UP SLOWER THAN OUR EXPENDITURES PER CAPITA IN CONSTANT DOLLARS NOW, MAYBE THAT'S A BAD THING.

AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY OUR REVENUES AREN'T KEEPING PACE WITH OUR EXPENDITURES PERCENT OF MANDATED EXPENDITURES.

SO WE HAVE THE STATE WHO IS ON THIS PATH WHERE THEY'RE MANDATING MORE AND MORE THINGS ON US, PREVENTING US FROM WHAT WE CAN DO.

IF THE PERCENT OF OUR MANDATED EXPENDITURES IS INCREASING OVER TIME, THAT MEANS THERE'S LESS AND LESS MONEY FOR US TO DO THE DISCRETIONARY THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.

AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT UP, OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOBBY THE STATE TO RELAX SOME OF THESE STANDARDS OR TO OFFSET THESE EXPENSES. AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH EMPLOYEES PER CAPITA.

EMPLOYEES PER CAPITA, IF THE TREND IS GOING UP, COULD BE A GOOD MEASURE.

I MEAN, IT MAY BE A MEASURE THAT WE'VE INCREASED OUR LEVEL OF SERVICES, AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM OUR CITIZENS IS HIGH.

OR IT COULD BE OUR POPULATION IS SHRINKING AND OUR EMPLOYEE LEVEL ISN'T MATCHING IT.

AND. AND WE HAVE A GAP THERE THAT'S NOT BEING MET.

SO NONE OF THE INDICATORS AND THERE ARE MAYBE 47 THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NOT ALL OF THEM WOULD BE NECESSARY TO TRACK, BUT I THINK SOME OF THEM ARE NECESSARY TO TRACK, AND THEY JUST GIVE US A TREND ON WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHY, AND THEY GIVE US AN INDICATION TO LOOK FOR WHY THOSE TRENDS ARE HAPPENING.

NOW, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE LONG TERM FINANCIAL PLAN.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, THIS YEAR I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT I WOULD HAVE ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT PLAN WOULD BE EDUCATED BASED ON OUR FINANCIAL CONDITIONS AND AND WHAT QUESTIONS THOSE CONDITIONS CAUSE US TO ASK AND CAUSE US TO FORMULATE A LONG TERM POLICY ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, THE BUDGET'S COMING UP.

THAT'S A SNAPSHOT OF A ONE YEAR ON ON WHERE WE'RE COMING OUT.

BUT IDEALLY WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE ALL OF THESE STEPS LEAD TO A BUDGET THAT LEAD TO THE CITY ACHIEVING ITS VISION.

AND ULTIMATELY ME AND STAFF ACHIEVING THE MISSION THAT YOU'VE SET FOR US.

AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I RAN THROUGH IT AS SUCCINCTLY AS I COULD.

WELL, I'M CERTAINLY OPEN IT UP FOR COMMENT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, I KNOW A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT WENT INTO THIS, AND AND TRUE ENOUGH.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH USED MUCH OF WHAT WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE AND SIMPLY COLLATED IT INTO THIS PRESENTATION.

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I'M. I'M JUST EXCITED FOR WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP AS CITY MANAGER.

AND, AND I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT AND, AND GETTING AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON, ON SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WILL IMPACT US IN A FEW YEARS. SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS THE MISSION STATEMENT THAT YOU WISH TO.

RESTATE OR.

YES, SIR. I MEAN, IF THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED RIGHT NOW AND THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT MISSION, THEN I THINK WELL, I'D HAVE TO ASK.

THE MISSION AND THE VISION WERE APPROVED BY RESOLUTION.

IS THAT CORRECT, KEVIN? YES, SIR. SO I THINK IF YOU'RE SUPPORTIVE OF CHANGING THE MISSION, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK NEXT TIME.

AND. SURE. SUBMIT A RESOLUTION TO DO SO.

I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO DO THAT.

I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF SIMPLE AND SHORT AND CONCISE AND MAYBE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE LIKE ME CAN ACTUALLY REMEMBER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO TO BRING IT BACK FOR A VOTE? AND AT THAT TIME WE COULD DECIDE NOT TO APPROVE THE SHIP, BUT IF YOU WANT.

YEAH WELL YEAH THAT'S OKAY.

SO WE'LL BRING THAT BACK IN IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION ON THE NEXT MEETING.

I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO YOU.

EARNED YOUR KEEP WITH THIS.

THIS IS SO IN DEPTH.

I MEAN, IT WAS IT WAS GREAT.

THANK YOU. BILL.

YOU YOU ARE AN OPERATIONS ANALYSIS MAJOR CONFLICT, YOU KNOW, BUT I'M KIND OF A NUMBERS GEEK.

YES, I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WAS AN OPERATIONS ANALYSIS MAJOR, SO I FEEL LIKE I WAS IN CLASS.

YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT PROCESS MANAGEMENT.

IS YOUR WORLD TWO STANDARD DEVIATIONS? I WAS GETTING EXCITED OVER HERE.

OKAY, BUT BUT IT IS A LOT OF WORK.

AND I TELL YOU WHAT. MY THREE AND A HALF YEARS HERE, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST CLEAR AND CONCISE ABSOLUTE PATHS FORWARD THAT I'VE SEEN.

I WROTE DOWN SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO HEAR BEFORE WE, FOR INSTANCE, WE TALK ABOUT MILLAGE RATE NEXT TIME BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE KIND OF WEIGHTS AND BALANCES.

SO I APPRECIATE I KNOW THE KIND OF WORK THAT I WISH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE WAS THAT.

AND SO I ACTUALLY, IF I MAY PIGGYBACK ON THAT I LOVE THE FACT THAT THESE THINGS ARE ALL TIMED.

MOST OF THESE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE PLAN TO BE PRESENTED THE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE CALENDAR YEAR AND SOME OF THEM ARE AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER. AND THEN THERE'S A FEW THAT ARE AT THE END OF THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

WELL, HERE'S MY QUESTION.

CAN TWO THINGS IS, CAN WE GET SOME INTERMEDIATE DATES WHERE DEPARTMENT HEADS OR WHOEVER'S RESPONSIBLE WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE.

A STATUS UPDATE AS TO WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THREE MONTHS.

BECAUSE. BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS A YEAR OUT.

WE CAN I MOST OF THEM I TRIED TO MAKE SO THAT THEY WERE LOGICAL STEPS.

SO ONCE YOU ACHIEVE THE NEXT STEP, THE FOLLOWING STEP WOULD BE THE LOGICAL STEP.

BUT I CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT HAVING SOME KIND OF REPORTING STANDARD.

WELL, AND SOME OF THIS REALLY IS IN YOUR BRAIN THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF IT.

YOU'RE REALLY GUIDING THAT PIECE.

AND I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER BOLE IS ACTUALLY HAVING SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOUR EFFORTS BEFORE.

WE ARE AT THAT POINT IN THE BUDGET WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE MILITARY.

YEAH. SO THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES THE STAFF THAT JUST LISTENED TO NOW KNOWS I HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT PROCESS MANAGEMENT YET.

THE FINANCIAL INDICATORS I HAVE REACHED OUT TO APPROPRIATE STAFF IN TERMS OF GETTING THE NUMBERS AND STARTING TO COLLECT THE NUMBERS.

IT'S MY HOPE THAT I'LL HAVE AT LEAST THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE TRENDS FOR A COLLECTION OF INDICATORS AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGET CYCLE.

AND HOPEFULLY, MAYBE EVEN SOME BRIEF ANALYSIS ON WHY WE BELIEVE THOSE TRENDS ARE TAKING PLACE.

OKAY. SO IF THAT IF YOU'RE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, THEN CERTAINLY THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE MAYBE SOME OF THOSE OPERATIONAL MEASURES AND CERTAINLY ALL THE FINANCIAL CONDITIONS INDICATORS READY FOR THE BUDGET JUST BEFORE THE BUDGET CYCLE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS.

WELL, AGAIN, JOB WELL DONE.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO MOVING ALONG TO ITEM FOR REPORTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME HARP ON RISK MITIGATION AND LIABILITY.

WELL, THERE'S ACTUALLY, I THINK, A GREAT PIECE OF PAPER ABOUT SEVEN PIECES OF PAPER THAT I READ TODAY WENT THROUGH WITH KEVIN.

I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT A 90% SOLUTION BECAUSE THERE'S SOME GLARING HOLES.

I THINK WE FOUND THAT THIS CITY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE RISK MITIGATION OFFICER HAVING THE LIABILITY INSURANCE, ETC., ETC..

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT MAYBE IN TWO WEEKS AT LEAST COME OUT.

I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD GET A FIRST READING OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S IMPORTANT.

ANOTHER THING I SAW IN THE NEWS, MAYBE SOME OF YOU, THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, DID NOT DO THAT WELL IN GRANTS COMING FIRST ROUND.

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AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO OUR GUYS WHO WRITE GRANTS.

THEY WORK ON GRANTS, SUBMIT THOSE.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO BETTER WITH THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW, I SAID, WOW, WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. YES. SO, COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE DISTRIBUTE THE DRAFT TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS POINT, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL WE.

I THINK YOU GOT ABOUT 10% MORE TO GO.

OKAY. YOU KNOW, I'LL DEFER TO KEVIN.

BUT I I'D LIKE IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE THE ONE THING WE DON'T HAVE IS AN EVENT WHERE WE'RE NOT COVERED.

BUT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER. KELLY.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN OPENING ON THE STOP COMMITTEE IN FROM COMMISSIONER BOWLES DISTRICT.

AND IF YOU DON'T OBJECT, I HAVE A VOLUNTEER WHO LIVES ON THE BORDER, WHO LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOUR BORDER.

ON WHAT? WELL, WE CAN OPEN THAT UP.

GO AHEAD. FINISH YOUR STATEMENT.

I HAVE A VOLUNTEER WHO LIVES OFF A PLAZA ON MY SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON THE STOP COMMITTEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT FORTH.

I AM SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT TO ACTUALLY BRING IT UP.

I SPOKE TO THE TO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR THIS WEEK.

AND IN MY DISCUSSION WITH HIM, I THINK IT'S BEST NOT TO STIR THE POT THIS LATE DATE.

THIS COMMITTEE IS ONLY RECENTLY GOTTEN ITS LEGS UNDERNEATH IT.

AND WILL SUNSET IN NOVEMBER.

SO EVEN THOUGH YOU PROBABLY HAVE A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE AND I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR VOLUNTEERING, IF THAT'S THE CASE, I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STOCK COMMITTEE WITHOUT ADJUSTING.

MY COMMITTEE MEMBER, MY VOLUNTEER IS A POLICE OFFICER AND HE UNDERSTANDS TRAFFIC LAWS, SO I THINK HE COULD BE NOTHING BUT A HELP TO THE COMMITTEE.

OKAY. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH PUTTING ANOTHER PERSON ON THERE, BUT THEN I HAVEN'T SEEN STOP COMMITTEE IN PERSON MEET.

IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD TAKE A VOTE, MAYOR OR ASK? WELL, WE CAN TAKE COMMITTEE HERE NOW, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S MY IT'S YOUR POSITION, AND AND I'M I'M ACTUALLY WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

OKAY. IF YOU FOLLOW THE STOP COMMITTEE AND YOU WATCH IT, THERE'S A WHOLE HISTORY HERE, AND THERE'S A KNOWLEDGE.

THE CHAIRMAN OF THE STOP COMMITTEE IS FROM MY DISTRICT ALSO.

SO I FEEL VERY WELL REPRESENTED WITH RICHARD LEADING UP TO STOP COMMITTEE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO.

THIS COMMITTEE HAS BEEN IN PROCESS FOR MONTHS, AND FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN, EVEN THOUGH HE MAY BE VERY WELL QUALIFIED.

I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AND PRESS FORWARD WHAT WE HAVE.

OKAY? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO MOTION.

THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE ON.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER. RING.

I ASKED BILL FOR AN UPDATE ON THE SPLASH PAD.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE DELAY THERE, BUT ALONG WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLE WAS MENTIONING ABOUT THE LIABILITY, IT LOOKS LIKE SPLASH PAD WON'T BE OPEN NEXT WEEK FOR SPRING BREAK OF AND DUVALL, BUT IT SHOULD BE OPEN MID APRIL.

MID TO LATE APRIL.

I THINK THAT WE GAVE THEM A 45 DAY EXTENSION.

SO AT LEAST BY SUMMER, RIGHT? YES. OKAY, GREAT.

AND AND THEN TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT BOLE COMMISSIONER BOLE WAS MENTIONING THAT THAT LIABILITY INSURANCE, IF WE COULD HAVE THAT AT LEAST READY TO GO BY THE TIME THE SPLASH PAD OPENS AND IT'S COVERED.

YEAH, THE SPLASH PAD WOULD BE COVERED UNDER OUR INSURANCE.

OKAY. SO WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN WITH THE CARRIER AND GIVEN THEM THE PARTICULARS ON THAT.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHEN WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY VENDOR UTILIZE ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, HOW DO WE NEED TO BE PROTECTED AND INDEMNIFIED FROM THEM? SO IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SCHEDULES AN ACTIVITY AT ONE OF OUR PARKS OR SCHEDULES A COMMERCIAL EVENT AT ONE OF OUR PARKS, WHAT KIND OF INSURANCE DO THEY NEED TO CARRY AND HOW DO THEY NEED TO INDEMNIFY THE CITY? OKAY, IF IT'S A CITY OWNED OR SPONSORED EVENT, OUR INSURANCE WILL COVER IT.

OKAY. IT'S POINTED AT, YOU KNOW, MONEY MAKING ON CITY PROPERTY, THOSE PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY.

SO THE FARMER'S MARKET, THE SENIOR PROGRAMING, YOUTH PROGRAMING UP TO THE STAFF, I GOT SOME IDEAS BUT YEAH, SOME OF THAT TENNIS ETC.

ETC.. OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER WATERS.

THANKS. BEFORE PAID PARKING CAME ON 18TH AND 19TH STREET, POLICE CAMERAS WERE PLACED WITH THE FUNDS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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MAINTENANCE? THERE'S ABOUT $3,000 A YEAR.

AND RECENTLY, WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER KILLINGSWORTH ALLUDED TO, I HAD A PRETTY GOOD WE'LL CALL IT A BUTCHERING OF A CANOPY OUTSIDE MY HOUSE BY THE CITY.

AND I WANT TO THANK BILL.

I WANT TO THANK SARAH BOREN FOR COMING OUT.

I WANT TO THANK FOR SC INPUT.

AND SO WHAT IT'S LED TO WAS, IS THIS WORK THAT ARE THESE ARE THESE CAMERAS WORTH IT? AND SO I TALKED TO THE CHIEF AND HE AND HE SAID IN HIS OPINION, YES, IF WE CAN SAVE ONE LIFE, IF WE CAN, ONE INJURY, WHATEVER, HE THINKS IT'S WORTH IT.

AND I WANT TO TALK TO THE STOCK COMMITTEE ABOUT IT.

I'M GOING TO RUN IT BY THEM.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE WHOLE DISTRICT, ALL ATLANTIC BEACH SAYS ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT ALL ALL THE DISTRICTS.

AND I WANT TO SEE I WANT TO GET THEIR INPUT ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WHEN IT WAS PUT IN WITH US, IT WAS REALLY ONLY ONE RESIDENT THAT WANTED IT.

OTHERS WERE AFRAID OF BEING SPIED UPON IN THEIR YARD AND THEIR HOUSE.

AND SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE AGAINST IT, BUT THEY WERE DONE ANYWAY.

AND BUT I WANT TO GET THE THE THOUGHTS OF THE STOCK COMMITTEE.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THIS, I MAY RUN IT BY YOU GUYS, BUT I'M GOING TO WAIT TILL THEY UNTIL I TALK WITH THEM.

AND THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

THANKS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANKS. SO I'LL ROUND IT OUT.

JUST WANT TO DO A SHOUT OUT TO PARKS AND RECREATION TO TRINA AND AND VERONICA, AND THEN ALSO ESPECIALLY TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

POLICE CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEN AND WOMEN.

THAT SERVED ON SATURDAY TO HELP US WITH TOUR DE PARKS.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

HOW MANY YEARS HAVE WE DONE THAT, KEVIN? ONLY A COUPLE. YEAH, I THINK I THINK FIVE, BUT IT WAS RENEWED.

IT WAS STARTED A FEW YEARS EARLIER.

WELL, FOR, FOR FOR THE CITIZENS WHO DON'T KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A TOUR OF OUR PARKS.

AND WE HAVE MANY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND EVERY I'VE ONLY BEEN ON IT TWICE THE LAST TWO YEARS.

BUT EACH TIME THERE ARE CITIZENS WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO TIDE VIEWS OR NEVER BEEN TO DUTTON ISLAND.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE CITIZENS ENGAGE IN THAT NEXT YEAR.

BUT BUT IT WAS A GREAT EVENT.

CITY STAFF, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU, POLICE CHIEF VIC.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE BACK TO THE AGENDA.

OKAY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO.

OKAY. HERE WE GO.

OKAY. WE HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA.

WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE FOR A WHILE.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON IT.

BUT LET ME FIRST READ.

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. I'LL READ THE TWO ITEMS, BUT BEFORE I DO.

COMMISSIONERS, ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION TO KEEPING THEM UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA WITHOUT FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY. IS THAT YOUR ASK? YES. I, I MOVE THAT WE REMOVE 60 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY. SECOND. OKAY.

WE NEED A VOTE ON THAT. JUST.

IF YOU COULD REMOVE THE BY.

YEAH. SO WE'LL WE'LL SEPARATE THEM.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM SIX A.

AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN SECOND AMENDMENT TO RADIO SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY REPORTS.

THERE'S NO CONSENT NOW.

NO. THE. YOU ONLY PULLED THE ONE ITEM.

WELL, BUT THERE'S ONLY TWO ITEMS, SO.

SO THEN THE ONE THAT'S A6A IS NOW.

SORRY. SIX A IS STILL PART OF THE CONSENT.

SO UNLESS YOU GUYS WANT TO DO SOMETHING OTHERWISE.

SO THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON ITEM SIX? A. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

ITEM SIX A PASSES.

NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM SIX B, WHICH WAS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, APPROVE THE SCHEDULE OF STREETS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2024 MILLING AND PAVING PROJECT.

[6.B. Approve the schedule of streets to be included in the 2024 Milling & Paving project and approve the Main Street proposed speed humps locations.]

LOCATIONS. I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

OR DO YOU HAVE A REPORT ON THAT? THERE IS A STAFF REPORT ON THAT.

SO COMMISSION, THIS IS I GUESS IT'S NOT A CONSENT ITEM ANYMORE OR A RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S A IT'S A REQUEST TO APPROVE THE REPAVEMENT LIST FOR THE $550,000 THAT IS BUDGETED FOR 2024, IN TERMS OF MILLING AND ASPHALT.

THE LIST IS MADE UP, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, DIRECTLY IN ORDER OF GREATEST NEED, AS IDENTIFIED BY THE RANKINGS THROUGH

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THERE ARE THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

SCOTT'S HERE TO ADDRESS ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S BECAUSE THE STREET NEEDED MORE WORK IF THE STREET WAS RANKED HIGH FOR RESURFACING, BUT IT NEEDED MORE WORK THAN JUST RESURFACING. IT NEEDED TO BE REBUILT.

THE SUBSTRATE WAS COLLAPSING.

WHATEVER IT WAS THEN, IT DIDN'T MAKE THIS LIST, BECAUSE THAT WILL END UP BEING A CIP PROJECT TO CORRECT ALL THE REPAIRS, AND THEN IT WILL GET RESURFACED AT THAT TIME.

SO IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO ENTERTAIN THEM, THOUGH I WILL LIKELY DEFER THEM TO SCOTT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION, SCOTT, ABOUT THE SPEED HUMPS.

SCOTT WILLIAMS, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE SIZE AND COMPARISON TO THE DONNER PARK.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE INCH AND THEN A MILL ONE INCH AND PUT IN SPEED HUMPS MEASURING 12FT WIDE BY 22FT WIDE, CURB TO CURB WITH A 2.5FT OR 2.5IN.

YES. VERTICAL ELEVATION, 2.5FT.

YES. WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT TO DONNA ROAD AND WE MEASURED THOSE HUMPS.

OKAY LEVELED IT OFF FROM FROM THE TOP OF THE HUMP OUT SEVEN FEET AND SEE WHAT THE HUMP WAS.

WE DID THAT SEVERAL PLACES ON THAT.

THEY WERE TWO AND A HALF.

OKAY. WE WENT TO LAKESIDE.

MEASURED THOSE. THEY WERE TWO AND A HALF.

I WENT TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, WHICH IS RIGHT OFF OF DUTTON ISLAND ROAD.

I FORGET THE NAME. NAME OF THE ROAD? JUST ABOUT THE LAST NEIGHBORHOOD BEFORE YOU GET TO DUTTON ISLAND.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE MEASURED.

THOSE ARE THREE AND A HALF.

WHILE I WAS MEASURING THOSE, I RECEIVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA ASKING ME IF I WAS GOING TO TAKE THEM DOWN.

I'M LIKE, NO, I'M NOT.

I'M, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JACKSONVILLE.

I JUST WANTED TO MEASURE THEM.

THEY SAID, WELL, IF YOU'RE PUTTING IN SPEED HUMPS, PLEASE DON'T MAKE THEM THIS HIGH.

YEAH. TWO I WENT OVER THE DONNER PARK SPEED HUMPS THIS WEEKEND.

PERFECT SIZE. SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE COMPARISON IN THE TWO.

SO, DONNER, PARKER, YOU SPEAK, I MEAN, DONNER ROAD.

OKAY. YEAH, THEY'LL BE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE.

OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU.

COULD YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF SOME OF THE STREETS THAT DIDN'T THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE MORE CONSTRUCTION THAN JUST REPAVING? YES, I CAN. LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE ARE WORRIED ABOUT.

WHAT STREETS ARE GETTING DONE OR NOT.

ONE OF THEM, THE FIRST ONE WAS BEACH AVENUE.

EXCUSE ME, OCEAN BOULEVARD.

AND THIS IS THE PORTION THAT MEETS TO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD.

RIGHT ALONG THE TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD RIGHT THERE.

IT WOULD INCLUDE PARKING AND EVERYTHING JUST UP TO AHERN.

THE REASON WHY THAT WAS THAT WAS PUT OFF IS BECAUSE OF THE SIDEWALK PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO EVERYTHING AT ONE TIME.

AND WHEN WE PAVE THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY TO GO UP TO FIRST STREET DUE FROM ATLANTIC BOULEVARD TO AHERN PARKING AND EVERYTHING, AND THEN THE ROADWAY FROM AHERN TO FIRST STREET. THAT WAS ONE OF THE ROADS.

THE NEXT ONE WAS A HALF CIRCLE WITHIN OCEAN WALK.

WE HAD ALREADY HAD CHOSEN THREE STREETS THAT WERE RANKED RIGHT THERE AT NUMBER TWO, THREE AND FOUR AND OCEAN WALK, AND THIS OTHER ONE WAS JUST A ROUND CIRCLE AROUND THE CUL DE SAC KIND OF AREA.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THAT AREA ALSO.

SO THIRD STREET WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT'S ON THE CIP PLAN FOR COMPLETE RENOURISHMENT.

AND WEST PLAZA, THE LITTLE SECTION ON THE WEST SIDE THAT IS SO NARROW THAT IT'S JUST MUDDIED UP ALL ALONG THE SIDE AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT'S SO NARROW.

THE TRASH TRUCKS CAN'T GET DOWN IT OR ANYTHING.

BUT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GO IN THERE AND SEE WHAT OUR RIGHT OF WAY BOUNDARIES ARE AND SEE IF WE CAN WIDEN THAT ROAD OUT A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU. MUM.

LAST QUESTION. WHEN IT'D BE KIND OF SILLY TO ASK YOU, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD THIS WILL COME IN UNDER BUDGET OR AT BUDGET? ON THE BID.

BUT WHAT'S OUR THINKING? OR DO YOU HAVE, LIKE, ONE STREET YOU WOULD REMOVE IF WE EXCEED THE THE BUDGET, WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR, WHAT THE PRICES WAS LAST YEAR, WE ADDED 5% ON IT.

GOOD. I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN TAKE 5% AND AND DO AN EXTRA FEW ROADS.

WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST IS IF WE'VE HAD EXTRA MONEY, I'VE GONE OUT AND GOT THE NEXT 2 OR 3 BAD STREETS.

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I'VE GOT FOUR STREETS HERE THAT I'VE GOT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY LEFT OVER IN THE CONTRACT.

IT WOULD BE MAYBE $23 A SQUARE YARD.

BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THESE STREETS OR WOULD DO THESE STREETS, WE'D WE'D BE WILLING TO GIVE YOU THE CONTRACT WITH THESE EXTRA STREETS.

OKAY. AND THAT ALL GOES THROUGH THE I COME UP WITH THE ROADS WHICH ARE ON THE ROBOTICS.

I GO AND NEGOTIATE WITH CONTRACTOR TAKING IT TO THE CITY MANAGER MAKING SURE IT'S OKAY, AND THEN I COME BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE IT'S APPROVED.

AND ALSO IT'S APPROVED THROUGH Y'ALL.

SURE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROCESS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE. DID I ACTUALLY READ THAT? LET ME READ THAT AGAIN.

THIS IS ITEM SIX B.

APPROVE THE SCHEDULE OF STREETS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE 2024 MILLING AND PAVING PROJECT.

AND APPROVE THE MAIN STREET PROPOSED SPEED HUMPS LOCATIONS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

I. THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. YES.

I DID HEAR THE VOTE FOR SIX A, BUT I DID NOT HEAR A MOTION OR A SECOND.

YEAH, WE THERE WAS A MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND.

I MADE THE MOTION, OR SHE MADE THE MOTION.

SHE MADE A RING.

MADE THE MOTION, AND COMMISSIONER BOLE MADE THE SECOND.

FIRST FOUR. SIX.

EIGHT. YES.

CORRECT. OKAY.

SO SIX EIGHT WAS UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SO THAT WAS PASSED AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SIX B THAT WAS JUST VOTED ON WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER RING AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BOLE.

AND THEN THERE WAS A VOTE.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING OR WHAT SHE'S SAYING, IS NEITHER ONE OF US HEARD A MOTION FOR SIX A UNDER CONSENT.

THERE WAS A VOTE, THOUGH.

OKAY, WELL, WHERE WE CAN CURE IT.

OKAY, WELL, I THOUGHT THERE WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT MAYBE NOT.

I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA SECOND.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

IT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

TO MY ATTENTION.

OKAY. HERE WE GO.

BACK ON TRACK. ITEM EIGHT, A RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH TEN, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AWARDING BID NUMBER 2320

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 24-10]

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS IN THE CIP.

IT'S BUDGETED AT $250,000.

LIKE MANY OF OUR PROJECTS, WHEN WE PUT IT OUT ON THE STREET, IT CAME BACK NEARLY TWICE AS MUCH AS WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR IT.

THIS PROJECT PROVIDES A A DRIVEWAY FOR THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION.

THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS 20FT.

THIS WOULD EXCUSE ME.

THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS EIGHT FEET.

IT WOULD EXTEND IT TO TEN FEET.

THAT TEN FEET WOULD PUT IT ON OR NEAR OR JUST PAST THE TOP OF THE BURM, DEPENDING UPON WHERE THAT LINE FALLS.

AND SO TO ENSURE THAT THINGS LIKE A FUEL TRUCK AS IT'S DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD DOESN'T SLIP INTO THE DITCH THERE STAFF. AND I FEEL AS THOUGH WE NEED TO BULKHEAD THAT DITCH.

SO THIS PROJECT IS BEFORE YOU.

LIKE I SAID, IT WAS BUDGETED AT $250,000.

WE'RE MOVING SOME MONEY AROUND TO CHANGE THE PROJECT.

COST $456,809.

WITH THAT. MR. MAYOR, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL HAVE MR. SWANN. YES, AVAILABLE.

LET'S BRING HIM UP.

GOOD EVENING. STEVE. SWANN CITY ENGINEER.

AND IF YOU SEE TEARS IN MY EYES, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT.

IT'S APPALLING. IT'S KILLING ME TODAY.

YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE.

COMMISSIONERS. QUESTIONS FOR MR. SWANN. SO I THINK I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE HOMEOWNERS THAT.

WHAT WHAT HAVE WE DONE ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNERS? AND LET'S STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, THE WORK, THE WORK WE'RE DOING ON THIS ROAD IS ON THE ON THE DITCH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE DOING ANY ROAD WORK.

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THERE IS A PLANTER BOX I THINK WAS POINTED OUT.

I'M NOT SURE IF IF IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MOVE THAT.

WE'LL TALK WITH THE HOMEOWNER ABOUT THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE PLANNING TO MOVE ANY PLANTER BOXES.

WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IS WIDEN THAT ROAD TWO FEET, BECAUSE THE EDGE OF THE ROAD THAT'S LESS THAN NINE FEET, ALMOST EIGHT FEET.

IN SOME PLACES, IT'S TOO NARROW TO GET OUR SERVICE TRUCKS DOWN THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT A GENERATOR, WHICH IS PART OF OUR LONG TERM VULNERABILITY PLAN FOR ALL OF OUR LIFT STATIONS TO HAVE BACKUP EMERGENCY POWER.

AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS ONE OF THE 14 LIFT STATIONS THAT WE IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIALLY VULNERABLE TO FLOODING IN THE FUTURE FROM SEA LEVEL RISE.

SO THE LONG TERM PLAN IS TO CONVERT THIS LIFT STATION TO A SUBMERSIBLE STATION, WHICH GETS RID OF THE BUILDING BACK THERE AND MAKES IT A LOT SMALLER.

ALL YOU'D HAVE STICKING UP WOULD BE A PANEL AND THE GENERATOR THAT WE PUT BACK THERE, WHICH WON'T BE AS HIGH AS THE BUILDING.

SO EVENTUALLY THAT BUILDING BACK THERE WILL PROBABLY GO AWAY.

SO TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO HAVE SAFE ACCESS TO IT.

IF IT'S, IF WE HAVE THE GENERATOR BACK THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE SAFE ACCESS FOR FUEL TRUCKS.

THERE'S NOT A RISK OF THEM FALLING INTO THE DITCH.

WE CAN BARELY GET OUR SERVICE TRUCKS OR DUAL AXLE TRUCKS BACK THERE NOW TO SERVICE IT.

WHICH ARE BACK THERE ON A ON A WEEKLY BASIS AT LEAST.

RIGHT NOW OUR, OUR SERVICE MECHANIC PARKS ON THE STREET AND WALKS BACK IN BECAUSE HE'S TOO NERVOUS TO DRIVE DOWN THAT ROAD.

AND ALSO IF IN CASE OF A POWER OUTAGE OR A FAILURE OF A PUMP FAILURE WHERE WE NEED TO MANUALLY PUMP THIS LIFT STATION OUT WITH OUR TRUCK, WE CANNOT WE CANNOT GET OUR VAC TRUCK DOWN THERE RIGHT NOW.

WE CONTRACT OUT WITH WE'RE NOT CONTRACT, BUT WE'LL CALL METRO ROOTER, SEE IF WE CAN GET ONE OF THEIR SMALLER TRUCKS IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

IN THE CASE OF A OF A HURRICANE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF TREES DOWN IN THIS AREA.

THERE'S GOING TO BE PRETTY GOOD PERIOD OF TIME PROBABLY WHERE WE CANNOT ACCESS THE LIFT STATION ITSELF, WHICH IS WHY THE EMERGENCY GENERATOR IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE ON THE UTILITY SIDE IS TROY, AND I IS MAKING SURE THAT AFTER A MAJOR STORM EVENT, SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS OTHER THAN ACCESS TO THE BEACH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AS WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRICITY.

WE DON'T CONTROL THE ELECTRICITY, BUT WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY GENERATOR TO KEEP THAT SYSTEM RUNNING.

IF THAT SYSTEM IS RUNNING, WE'LL HAVE WE'LL HAVE SEWER THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH THE WATER PLANTS, WE'LL HAVE WATER.

SO THE IDEA IS THAT WE CAN MOVE BACK TO THE BEACH VERY QUICKLY AND NOT HAVE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS THE BEACH OR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN ATLANTIC BEACH. SO THIS THIS PROJECT IS PART OF KIND OF OUR LONG TERM VULNERABILITY AND RESILIENCY WORK.

AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY PROVIDE THIS ACCESS, WHICH IS IN A 50 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK 84 OR 83 WHENEVER SILVA NORTE WAS PLATTED THERE.

GIVES US JUST ENOUGH ROOM WITH THAT DRAINAGE DITCH THAT RUNS THROUGH THERE TO TO ADD ABOUT TWO MORE FEET TO THAT ROAD, WHICH AND MAKE IT A STABLE SURFACE ON THE, ON THE WATER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ROAD COLLAPSING IN A TRUCK ROLLING IN THERE.

SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE PROJECT.

IS IT CRITICAL? DO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT TODAY? NOT NECESSARILY, BUT LONG TERM IT'S IT'S A NECESSARY PROJECT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE QUITE A LONG TIME AGO.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. CAN YOU ADDRESS THE RESIDENTS CONCERN ABOUT TAKING DOWN THAT RETAINING WALL AND THE FENCE? THE FENCE WOULD FALL WITH IT.

YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE TAKING DOWN ANY RETAINING WALLS.

WE ACTUALLY OWN THE PROPERTY IN THE BACK.

IT WAS PURCHASED OR TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY BACK IN 2000.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT.

I DO KNOW THAT THAT LIFT STATION AREA WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAT FOR THE SETTLEMENT, BUT WHEN THE CITY BOUGHT IT THAT PROPERTY, I ASSUME THAT'S WHEN THEIR RETAINING WALL WAS BUILT.

AND WE DON'T PLAN ON IMPACTING THAT RETAINING WALL OR FENCE ALONG THAT WALL THAT I KNOW OF.

OKAY. AND IF WE IF WE DO, I'LL BE CERTAIN TO TALK TO THE HOMEOWNERS AND FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

WE WON'T LEAVE THEM HANGING OUT THERE WITH RIPPING SOMETHING OUT LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ONE ISSUE THEY HAD. YOU KNOW, THE I GUESS THERE'S FOUR HOMEOWNERS RIGHT THERE THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO BE INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND. WELL, I BELIEVE THE THREE HOMEOWNERS AND TWO OF THEM ARE IN THE EASEMENT, AND ONE OF THEM BORDERS PROPERTY THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS, AND THE TWO AND THE TWO THAT BORDER THE EASEMENT. WE'RE NOT OR EACH ALL THREE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE STAYING AS FAR TO THE EAST OF THE ROAD AS WE CAN, WHICH IS ADDING TWO MORE FEET TO THE EAST SIDE OF THAT ROAD. DOES THIS AREA FLOOD A LOT? MAIER UP, UP INTO THESE YARDS OR THESE? IT'S IT'S ALL IN THE HUNDRED.

IT'S ALL IN THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

THE LIFT STATIONS IN THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN.

AS FAR AS FLOODING HISTORY, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE FLOODING HISTORY IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW.

SO I HAVE LIVED I LIVED IN THAT AREA FOR THREE DECADES OR CLOSE TO IT, AND I DON'T RECALL ANY FLOODING.

SO THIS IS AND I BUT I DON'T DISPUTE THE FACT THAT LONG TERM WE COULD HAVE AN ISSUE.

AND THIS IS A RESILIENCY PLAY FOR WHAT HASN'T OCCURRED, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENT THAT COULD OCCUR ONE DAY.

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WHAT I DO WANT TO MAY I TAKE THE FLOOR I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

PROPERTY. ALSO, THE LAST QUESTION WAS A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS, OR AT LEAST THE YOUNG LADY, WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LIFT STATION AND THE SMELL, THE SIGHT AND ALL THAT.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE THAT ESTHETICALLY MORE.

WELL, HE SAID, WHEN WE REBUILD THIS LIFT STATION AND CONVERT IT TO A SUBMERSIBLE STATION.

YEAH. THAT BUILDING, THE BUILDING ITSELF WILL GO AWAY.

SO IT WILL NOT BE NEAR AS OBTRUSIVE.

WE COULD PAINT IT IN THE INTERIM.

WE COULD PAINT IT ANOTHER COLOR.

WE COULD PLANT BAMBOO AROUND THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING, PERHAPS.

YOU SAID BAMBOO. I'M FINE.

THANKS. SO I'M.

I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENT THAT SAID, PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.

YEAH. THERE IS NO RUSH TO APPROVE THIS.

AS TROY MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING, WE'RE NOT EVEN TAKING POSSESSION OF THE GENERATOR UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

SO MY SENSE IS WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE SOMETHING.

I. I DON'T KNOW, MR. CITY MANAGER. CAN CAN WE GET CAN WE GET SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT CITY? AND I'M. AND THIS IS NO DISRESPECT TO MR. SWANN OR MR. STEVENS, BUT CAN WE GET AN OUTSIDE VENDOR TO GIVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THIS? SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND THIS IS WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME IN.

IF YOU WERE CONFUSED LIKE ME, I UNDERSTAND.

INITIALLY, I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ABOUT BRINGING A CRANE IN TO LOAD A GENERATOR ONTO THE SPOT.

OH, NO. BUT IT'S NOT.

AND SO.

AND WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT OUR VACUUM TRUCK CAN'T NAVIGATE THAT NARROW ROADWAY WITHOUT RISK WE'VE BEEN OUTSOURCING TO A COMPANY ASSUMINGLY WITH A SMALLER VACUUM TRUCK.

AND SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHAT'S THE COST OF CONTINUING THAT OUTSOURCING VERSUS 500,000? IT'S NOT 500. IT'S 400.

AND WHAT IS IT, 465,000.

SO WE'LL ROUND UP.

IT'S A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

SO I, I'D LIKE TO KNOW BEFORE I VOTE ON THIS WHAT ARE OUR ALTERNATIVES ARE AND YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING OR BE CORRECTED.

SO, MR. KILLINGSWORTH, YOU SAID THAT IT WAS TAKING IT FROM A TEN FOOT ROAD TO A 12 FOOT, BUT CURRENTLY.

OR. WAIT A SECOND. NO I THINK I THINK TROY MISTAKENLY SAID THAT LAST TIME.

IT'S TAKING IT FROM AN 8 OR 9 FOOT.

THE PATH MEANDERS TO A TEN FOOT.

SO. SO I ASSUME THAT THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE AND I COULD GO BACK TO THE BREAKDOWN ON IT IF IT WAS THERE.

BUT THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE IS THE BULK HEADING.

IT'S NOT THE ADDITIONAL.

YES, SIR. ASPHALT AND SO ON.

SO I'D, I'D LIKE TO DO A LITTLE MORE EXPLORATION AND I'LL COME TO YOU IN ONE SECOND, COMMISSIONER.

BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS OUR PLAN WITH EACH OF OUR OTHER LIFT STATIONS, AND WHERE DOES RESILIENCY FIT IN WITH EACH OF THEM? BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON THIS ISSUE AND DOING THINGS FOR RESILIENCY.

AS FAR AS FLOODING, THOUGH, I THINK AT LEAST BASED ON OBSERVATION, THAT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN FLOODING IN THAT AREA AND I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT DITCH OVERFLOW.

SO MAYBE IT HAS.

IF ANYBODY KNOWS THAT, THEN PLEASE SPEAK UP.

BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT.

SO I'M, I'M GOING TO ASK THIS COMMISSION TO DEFER ON THIS AND GET MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE VOTE FOR A HALF MILLION DOLLAR EXPENDITURE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE NECESSARY. YES, SIR, I'M GOING TO TAKE AN ALTERNATIVE VIEW HERE.

WE VOTED AND SET PRIORITIES FOR RESILIENCY, REDUNDANCY, STORMWATER.

YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T HAVE PUT MORE DOTS ON THAT PRIOR ART, RIGHT? I THINK EVERYBODY WAS IN THE ROOM UNDERSTANDS THAT.

I, I TAKE THE STAFF'S OPINION AND PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS AND PEOPLE THAT KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO.

AND I LOOK AT THESE GUYS THINK THIS IS A PRIORITY.

AND I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL DEFER ALSO TO THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I IF I VOTED FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR MISSION GOALS TO SET IT DOWN THE ROAD, OKAY, LET'S SET IT DOWN THE ROAD.

BUT BUT I WANT THE TIME HORIZON TO DO THAT.

THIS JUST PUTTING IT ASIDE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 FOR TEN AND GET VOTED DOWN.

SO I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

OKAY. SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION AT DURING THE I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

NO, NO. GO AHEAD. GO.

SO WHEN I ASKED THE QUESTION WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T DO IT? AND I WAS I WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THIS THE THIS GENERATOR IS GOING TO PREVENT THE LIFT STATION FROM SPILLING OVER WITH ALL THE NOXIOUS SEWER CONTENTS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, INTO OUR INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM.

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AND I'M NOT SURE THAT BY WAITING, WE THE PRICE WOULD GO DOWN AT ALL.

AND I'LL GET YOU ONE SECOND.

AND, COMMISSIONER, I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

BUT AGAIN, TIME IS OUR FRIEND HERE.

THERE IS NO RUSH OF URGENCY HERE TO DO THIS.

SO WE COULD BUY ANOTHER MONTH OR SO AND HAVE CONVERSATION AND LOOK AT POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVES BEFORE SPENDING THAT.

YEAH. HOLD ON.

COMMISSIONER. WATER'S NEXT.

NO, I MY MAIN GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AND THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE RIGHT THERE KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.

I MEAN, WHAT IS.

WHAT CAN THEY EXPECT? HONESTLY, NOT A SURPRISE.

YOU KNOW WHAT IS HONESTLY GOING TO COME THERE? AND IF THEY ALL IF ALL IF STEVE OR WHOEVER, IF WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME INDEPENDENT PLACE, WHATEVER, THEY GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO REALLY IMPACT. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN IMPACTED A THIRD OF THEIR YARD.

SO I THINK THAT I, I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW, AND I THINK WE CAN WAIT TWO WEEKS TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND BEFORE WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.

WELL, THANK YOU. AND GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

YEAH I AGREE WITH TABLING IT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS.

AND PART OF THAT IS THIS IT.

DO WE HAVE A STUDY ON HOW MANY OF OUR LIFT STATIONS ARE PART OF THIS GENERATOR? REJUVENATION, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IN THE GENERATORS IF YOU SAID 14 AND IT'LL BE ONE OF 14, WE HAVE WE HAVE 14 GENERATORS, OUR LIFT STATIONS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS BEING VULNERABLE TO SEA LEVEL RISE.

SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE HAVE BACKUP POWER FIRST.

CAMELLIA STREET IS AN EXAMPLE WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHERE WE ADDED A GENERATOR OVER THERE.

THE GENERATOR IS NOT VERY HIGH.

IT'S NOT AS HIGH AS THE BUILDING.

IT'S IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL, SO IT'S NOT THAT BIG, BUT IT'S HIGH ENOUGH TO BE ABOVE PREDICTED FLOOD LEVELS IN THE NEXT 25 YEARS.

AND AS FAR AS AS ALTERNATIVES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES.

AND ONE ALTERNATIVE IS TO PIPE THAT WHOLE DITCH.

AND WE COULD DO THAT AND THAT WOULD BE EXPENSIVE AS WELL.

BUT IT TAKE UP MORE STORMWATER, FLOODWATER STORAGE.

SO WE OPTED NOT TO GO THAT ROUTE.

SO THE, THE, THE LEAST MAINTENANCE ROUTE IS TO PUT IN THAT BULKHEAD AND WIDEN THE ROAD BY TWO FEET.

AND WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GOING ON THE SIDE WHERE THE HOMES ARE OR GOING TOWARDS THE DITCH SIDE.

NOW, TO BE CLEAR, I'M AWARE OF THAT.

AND IF YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT, IT'S A LITTLE HARD IN THAT THE DRAWING, THAT WAS THE ATTACHMENT.

BUT WE ARE UP AGAINST THE WESTERLY EDGE OF THE EASEMENT WITH THE EXISTING PAVEMENT, IN FACT, ENCROACHING ON THE FIRST LOT.

WE ARE BY, I DON'T KNOW, A FOOT OR TWO.

SO WE CAN'T GO WEST.

WE CAN ONLY GO EAST, I GET IT BUT I WALKED IT MYSELF, AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I'M GOING TO JUST FESS UP.

I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT, SAYING, I'D LIKE TO HEAR.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOLUTIONS THAT AREN'T A HALF $1 MILLION AND A BEAUTIFUL BULKHEAD ON A DITCH.

THAT'S JUST MY WAY OF THINKING.

AND I THINK MANY OF OUR CITIZENS WOULD LIKE US TO BE MORE MEASURED AND THOUGHTFUL BEFORE WE EXPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY.

SO I'M VOTING NAY ON THIS.

BUT GO AHEAD AND BRING YOUR MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BOLE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 24-10.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND. YOU HAVE A SECOND.

DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED NAY NAY.

NAY. THREE.

TWO. TO TO NOT APPROVE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU.

SO CITY MANAGER, I, I KNOW THIS IS NOT A A STRONG DIRECTION ON THIS, BUT CAN YOU AT LEAST LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION? WE CAN'T TALK AS A GROUP BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, BUT I CERTAINLY WILL TALK TO YOU IN YOUR OFFICE NEXT WEEK.

AND THEN YOU CAN TALK TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.

BUT I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER LIFT STATIONS.

THIS ONE'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY.

AND FOR THE CITIZENS HERE, THIS ONE IS UNIQUE.

WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I'M LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU PUT A LIFT STATION OF THREE AND FOUR HOUSES DEEP ALONG A DITCH WITH, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE TO HAVE AN EASEMENT TO GET THERE? MOST LIFT STATIONS ARE ACCESSIBLE BY A CITY OWNED ROADWAY.

SO. SO THIS IS UNIQUE.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW NOT ONLY ARE THERE ANY OTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS OTHER THAN THAN THE BULKHEADING IN PARTICULAR.

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AND, AND I WANT TO GO ON RECORD ON THIS.

AND, MR. KILLINGSWORTH, YOU'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS, I APOLOGIZE.

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT IN PREVIOUS CITY MANAGERS, WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.

AND THIS EMANATED FROM THE UNFORTUNATE EFFECTS TO THE COMMUNITY OF LAKESIDE.

LAKESIDE. I THINK IT'S LAKESIDE.

BUT ANYWAYS. YES. WHERE THEY HAD THE WATER TOWER REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH AN ANTENNA FOR CELL TOWER.

AND NOBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS CONSULTED.

NOBODY WAS GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A A NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERSATION OR UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT WAS.

SO AT THAT TIME, AT LEAST TWO CITY MANAGERS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT NOT DOING ANY PROJECT IN ANY PART OF THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT DIRECT NOTICE TO THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS BEFORE WE ENGAGE IN A PROJECT.

SO TONIGHT, IF WE HAD VOTED TO DO THIS, WE STILL HAVEN'T PROPERLY ENGAGED THE CITIZENS.

AND I THINK IT'S REASONABLE WE HAVE A CITIZEN THAT'S MADE A SPECIFIC REQUEST THAT WE HOLD OFF UNTIL THEY'VE BEEN PROPERLY INFORMED.

AND I DO HOPE THAT THERE'S NO DOWNSIDE TO THE RETENTION WALL AND THE EFFECT ON THAT.

BUT THAT'S JUST I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS IF THAT EVEN OCCURS AT THE NEXT MEETING.

YEAH. COMMISSIONERS. ANY OTHER REQUESTS THERE? OKAY. AND SEE.

SO. OKAY.

[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 24-12]

RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 12, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE CITY'S 2024 PRIORITIES AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. SO I WON'T GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, BUT YOU HAVE THE THE YOU HAVE THE PRIORITIES AND THE THEMES AND PROJECTS AS WE COLLECTED THEM AND PROPOSED THEM.

SO I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO A VOTE.

YEAH. JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHITTLING THE MISSION DOWN TO ONE LINER.

WOULDN'T THAT KIND OF BE A MOTTO? I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT TO ME, YOU KNOW, IS THAT KIND OF THE CITY'S MOTTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO PROVIDE THE KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE IT MORE CONCISE, DISTILLED DOWN CLEARER.

IS THAT WHAT YOUR GOAL IS? YEAH. SO THE GOAL IS A.

IF ACTUALLY, I THINK DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS COMMISSIONER KELLY ASKED ME WHAT THE WHAT THE MISSION WAS, AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S IT'S PRETTY LONG.

I CAN READ IT. YEAH. SO A I'D LIKE THE ABILITY WHEN I'M OUT WITH STAFF.

I HAVE MET WITH EVERY STAFF PERSON IN THE CITY.

I MEET WITH THEM RANDOMLY EVERY MONTH.

I HAVE TEN OF THEM SELECTED.

IT WON'T HAPPEN THIS MONTH BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A SECRETARY THIS MONTH, BUT I I HAVE HER SCHEDULED TEN OF THEM RANDOMLY, AND THEY COME IN AND SIT WITH ME AND MEET.

SO I WAS JUST ENGAGING WITH THE EMPLOYEES.

I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, WHAT'S OUR MISSION? DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? YEAH. AND THEN IF THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I THOUGHT YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOLLOWED THROUGH, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IS GOOD.

YOU KNOW, FOR ROWE IT WAS JUST A RANDOM THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I STRONGLY APPROVE A B I LOVE THE FACT THAT OUR OUR PRIORITIES ARE JUST NOT AS HARD IN THE IN THE DESK ANYMORE, THAT THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE TRACTION.

SO APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD TO IT.

YOU TOOK SOME INITIATIVE THERE AND YOU GOT ALL OF THE PRIORITIES IN WHETHER THEY WERE ONE DOT OR FIVE DOTS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24 DASH 12.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I, I THAT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. ITEM NINE, A ORDINANCE NUMBER 22, DASH 24, DASH 172.

[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 20-24-172, Introduction and First Reading. ]

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET OF THE FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THIS LAST COMMISSION MEETING, AND THE COMMISSION VOTED TO ASK ME TO BRING FORTH A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE FUNDS. YOU'LL SEE IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE ANTICIPATE RECEIVING $200,000 FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE IN ASSISTANCE.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE WHO QUESTIONED WHY WE'RE APPROPRIATING THIS MUCH MONEY. AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE WE EXPECT 200 FROM THEM.

AND I GUESS WITH THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD OKAY.

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DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? HEARING NONE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 20, DASH 24, DASH 172.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH 172.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I OPPOSED.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 11.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUEST]

REAL QUICK JUST AS A FOLLOW UP FROM LAST MEETING, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THIS FORM SIX FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE LITIGATION.

AND I THINK I INFORMED YOU WITH SOME BRIEF OUTLINE AS TO WHAT THE THE ELEMENTS ARE, THAT THERE'S A FEDERAL AND STATE CASE CLAIM THAT'S BEEN FILED BY A, A LAW FIRM CALLED WEISS SIROTA AT A SOUTH FLORIDA.

AND I THINK I INFORMED YOU ALSO THAT THEY'RE CHARGING A $10,000 FLAT FEE, INCLUSIVE OF ATTORNEY'S FEES TO JOIN THIS THIS CLAIM.

THE ATTORNEY AND I HAVE CONVERSED A COUPLE OF TIMES BACK AND FORTH, AND THEY WILL BE AMENDING THE COMPLAINT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO ADD SOME MORE PLAINTIFFS, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY DO IT ONCE MORE, END OF MARCH, BEGINNING OF APRIL, IN ORDER TO ADD MORE PLAINTIFFS.

I LEAVE IT TO YOU TO GIVE ME ANY FURTHER DIRECTION ON THIS THERE.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANY SUBSIDY OR REIMBURSEMENT.

I THINK THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WAS ONE PLACE.

THEY'RE NOT COVERING ANY OF THESE COSTS.

THEY'RE JUST KEEPING PEOPLE INFORMED OF THE LITIGATION.

SO AGAIN, JUST GIVING YOU THAT INFORMATION IN CASE YOU GUYS WANTED TO TAKE ANY FURTHER STEPS REAL QUICK.

AND I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

ONE OTHER THING IS OBVIOUSLY THE LEGISLATIVE THE LAST STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I THINK ENDED TODAY, I BELIEVE AND THERE'LL BE SOME ITEMS THAT WE MAY WANT TO DISCUSS AT A LATER DATE.

THERE WAS ONE ABOUT CAMPING AND SLEEPING.

YEAH. OVERNIGHT THERE WAS SOME QUIRKY CHANGES TO THE LAW ON THAT.

AND I SAY QUIRKY BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK ON FACE VALUE.

BECAUSE THERE'S SOME CONSTITUTIONAL ELEMENTS TO IT I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, I'M NOT SURE I THINK THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO SIGN THEM.

I'M NOT SURE IF HE HAS YET OR NOT, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS TAKE STOCK OF THE ONES THAT MAY PERTAIN TO US THAT THE GOVERNOR DOES SIGN, THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT AT A FUTURE DATE. BUT ANYWAY, WITH THAT, THAT'S MY REPORT.

GOOD. THE DID YOU GET THE COST PER PARTICIPANT IN THE CLASS ACTION SUIT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A $10,000 FLAT FEE.

REGARDLESS. SO THAT WOULD BE THE PLAINTIFF WOULD BE, IN THIS CASE, THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

BUT THEY'RE ALSO INCLUDING AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN 100% CLARITY FROM THE.

AND I CAN GET THAT CLARITY FROM THE ATTORNEYS AS TO THEY'RE ALSO INCLUDING INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS.

I THINK THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO GET I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO FILE IS A TEMPORARY INJUNCTION TO STOP THE THE APPLICABILITY OF THE LAW.

AND I THINK THEY NEED INDIVIDUAL COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT ARE AFFECTED TO BE PART OF THAT, WHICH IS WHY I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR THAT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S $10,000 PER ENTITY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S JUST CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH OR CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND MAYOR CURTIS FORD, PERHAPS I JUST TO USE YOU AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO BUT YOU ALWAYS CALL ON, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.

SO YOU WANT ME TO PASS THE HAT? WE'LL TAKE COLLECTIONS NOW.

I THANK YOU FOR UPDATING US.

WE NEEDED TO KNOW THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT FIRST.

I'LL MAKE TWO COMMENTS.

NUMBER ONE IS, I'M NOT PERSONALLY INTERESTED IN PURSUING THAT, BUT I DID WANT THE INFORMATION.

AND IF EACH OF YOU HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, PLEASE SHARE IT.

BUT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT.

I KNOW OF ONE VERY, VERY GOOD CITIZEN IN THIS CITY THAT HAS TOLD ME THEY WILL NOT, IN THE FUTURE RUN FOR COMMISSION BECAUSE OF THIS.

AND THAT'S A SHAME.

BUT THEIR EMPLOYER WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO DISCLOSE THEIR, THEIR SALARY AND COMPENSATION SO THAT THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER FORM SIX.

BUT COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK ON THIS? OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

APPRECIATE IT. DONNA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR REPORTS? I DO HAVE A NEW RECORDS MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST THAT'S SUPPOSED TO START ON MONDAY.

CROSS YOUR FINGERS.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

CONGRATULATIONS. OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING.

MAIER. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONERS. LET'S START AT THE OTHER END.

THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER RING.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

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SO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN 2024.

COMMISSIONER WATERS. MY FRIEND MELODY VAN ZANDT SENT ME AN EMAIL WARNING THE CITY TO SUPPORT THE FLETCHER HIGH BAND.

FOURTH ANNUAL DONUT DASH, THE 13TH OF APRIL.

IT'S A5K RUN BENEFITS OF FLETCHER BAND PROGRAM AT THE JACK TAYLOR STADIUM.

8:00 IN THE MORNING.

ALL YOU MUSICIANS, ALL YOUR ATHLETES, GO OUT THERE, RUN A5K REAL QUICK.

THE SECOND THING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING MY BOY, CHIEF.

MY RESCUE BOY, CHIEF TO PAULSON PARK.

OH, YOU HAVE A NEW DOG ON THE 23RD OF MARCH.

FROM 10 TO 1 AT JORDAN PARK.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. BRING YOUR DOGS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER KELLY I MEANT TO MENTION THIS EARLIER.

THERE WAS A DOOR, A DOOR HANGER AT MY HOUSE SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO CLOSE WITH THE EAST COAST.

YES, AND AT THE WAS TOTALLY ANONYMOUS, AND I ASSUMED THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

THERE WILL BE SOME CLOSURE.

WE HAVE NOT FULLY NEGOTIATED THAT YET.

AND THE HANGAR THAT YOU WILL GET WILL BE MORE INFORMATIVE THAN WHAT? THE, I GUESS, DEVELOPER PLACED ON THE DOOR THAT HAD NO INFORMATION OTHER THAN IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR A MONTH, SIX WEEKS SUMMER.

I THINK IT WAS SIX WEEKS.

COMMISSIONER BOLTON. YEAH.

TWO. TWO QUICK ONES.

BEACHES, TOWN CENTER, AGENCY, GOLF CLASSIC.

AND I THANK YOU, KEVIN, FOR PUTTING THAT OUT THERE APRIL 11TH.

IT'S A GOOD TIME TO RAISE MONEY FOR BEACHES TOWN CENTER.

WE'VE ALSO GOT YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH DANCING IN THE STREETS.

THAT'S COMING UP. THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD TIME.

WELL ATTENDED ONE SMALL MINOR.

WHEN WE VOTE FOR A RESOLUTION.

AND IT'S NOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE, I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE? AS WE SAID BEFORE, AM I RIGHT? IT WOULD HELP YOU. BUT, I MEAN, YOU GO ON THE RECORD AND TECHNICALLY, IF IT'S 3 TO 2, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A ROLL CALL.

YOU GUYS, YOU COULD DO THAT.

YOU COULD DO THAT IF YOU WANT. OKAY.

BUT IT'S NOT REQUIRED.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. ARE YOU READING FROM THE RULE? NO. I'M READING I'M ASKING, ASKING DONNA THAT WHEN WE WHEN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING.

RIGHT. THAT'S NOT UNANIMOUS ON THE ON THE DOCUMENT HERE, IT SAYS ROLL CALL, AM I.

IT SAYS VOICE VOTE ROLL CALL.

I THINK IF THERE'S A LACK OF CLARITY, YOU DO THE ROLL CALL.

AND TYPICALLY I JUST I WAS JUST CHECKING.

YEAH. AND TYPICALLY ON THINGS THAT AREN'T UNANIMOUS, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE YEAH THAT'S PROFILE ENOUGH OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP THEM TO GO ON THE RECORD WHO IS ON AND OFF.

SO BUT BUT FROM MY MEMORY, JUST IN CASE IT'S QUESTION, I DO RECALL MR. BOLE AND MISS KELLY VOTED IN FAVOR OF THAT ONE ITEM.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE, RIGHT? NO, NO. AND I TAKE THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION.

IT'S NOT HARD TO DO SO.

PROBABLY WE'LL CONTINUE OR WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH ROLL CALL.

SO, YES, DONNA, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC, WOULD YOU I WOULD LIKE IT IF EVERYONE WOULD REVIEW OUR CODE.

CHAPTER TWO DASH 19.

WE DO ABIDE BY ROBERT'S RULES, EXCEPT WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN RULES.

THEN YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GO BUY THOSE, AND IT'S GOOD TO REFRESH YOURSELF WITH THOSE EVERY NOW AND THEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER.

OH, MR. KILLINGSWORTH SAVED THE BEST FOR LAST.

I'M DONE FOR TONIGHT, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'VE COMMENTED ENOUGH.

THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR HANGING IN THERE.

IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

OKAY. JUST.

I SHOT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.