May 13, 2024 Commission Meeting

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GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO OUR MEETING THIS EVENING.

WELCOME. NEIGHBORS, RESIDENTS, GUESTS.

BEFORE WE OPEN THE MEETING COMMISSIONER.

KELLY HAS AN INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE.

YEAH. BE RIGHT WITH YOU.

CREATOR OF ALL THE WORLD.

LOOK UPON YOUR PEOPLES IN DISTRESS THROUGH THE VIOLENT STORMS, WARFARE, STRIFE, INTERNAL DIVISIONS, RACIAL BIAS, AND PERSONAL ILLS. GIVE US ALL YOUR SAVING GRACE AS WE MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITIZENS.

AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED MAY 13TH, 2024, FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

ITEM. OH.

I'M SORRY. LADAYIJA, CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND CALL ROLL, PLEASE? . THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT ON A RAINY NIGHT.

AND HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU LEAVE, IT WON'T BE RAINING.

LET'S SEE. FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WE HAVE THE TOWN HALL MINUTES HELD ON APRIL 13TH, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, THE MINUTES WILL STAND AS PRESENTED ON THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON APRIL 22ND, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THOSE? HEARING NONE. THOSE MINUTES WILL STAND AS SUBMITTED.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

WILL OPEN THAT WITH A PRESENTATION FROM BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY AND BUT LET ME BACK UP AND WELCOME DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HOGAN KEMP TO THE DAIS.

ONCE AGAIN, YOU'VE BEEN HERE SO MANY TIMES.

GLAD YOU COULD FILL IN. AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW MR. KILLINGSWORTH IS OUT ON BEREAVEMENT.

HE'LL BE BACK, I BELIEVE, TOMORROW.

SO, I'LL LET YOU TAKE IT AWAY ON ITEM TWO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR FORD.

AS MANY OF YOU MAY KNOW ATLANTIC BEACH CARES IS A FUND OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

WE WORK WITH BEAM TO HELP OUR CUSTOMERS WHO GET CAUGHT UP IN FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS.

A LOT OF US MAKE MONTHLY OR ANNUAL DONATIONS.

WE THREE YEARS AGO PARTNERED WITH BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY.

WITH THE LUMINARIA PROGRAM.

WE ARE NOW ATLANTIC BEACH CARES IS NOW A BENEFICIARY OF LUMINARIA, AND WE'RE A PARTNER IN THAT PROGRAM.

AND IF I MAY, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO INVITE LEE ELMORE.

SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COMMISSION.

SHE IS WITH BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME AND SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND THANK YOU TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TO THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

EXCUSE ME FOR HAVING MY BACK TO YOU.

AND TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR PARTNERING WITH BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY ONCE AGAIN TO CELEBRATE A WONDERFUL SEASON IN A BEAUTIFUL WAY, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO HELP RAISE FUNDS TO GIVE BACK TO THOSE PEOPLE IN NEED.

AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT THAN AB CARES AND PARTICIPATING.

AND I'M SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT BEAM IS ALSO GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND A RECIPIENT OF OUR WHOLE CITY'S, YOU KNOW, GOOD, GOOD NATURE.

SO, I'D LIKE TO JUST GRAB SOMETHING HERE REAL QUICK.

GREAT. THANK YOU. AND WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OTHER INTRODUCTIONS, IF I MAY WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

ADMINISTRATOR OF THE AB CARES FUND IS LINDA ECHEVARRIA.

SHE'S HERE. SHE'S GOING TO STAND IN THIS PICTURE THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE.

AND ALSO, JUANITA ADDEO WITH BEAM IS HERE TO BE PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING.

THIS YEAR, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RAISE MORE FUNDS THAN WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST, AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO RAISING MORE FUNDS TO HELP MORE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THIS YEAR, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A CHECK FOR $3,000 THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS AB CARES.

AND I'M JUST I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER ABOUT IT.

AND I SPEAK FROM MY HEART AND FROM THE ENTIRE COMPANY OF BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY

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I WOULD THINK SO.

WE ARE GETTING THE ENTIRE CITY.

COMMISSIONER.

THANKS. HERE WE GO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, BUT YEAH.

CATCH IT BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO SAY BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY UNDER A FIRST OF ALL, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HAS BEEN A PROMINENT PLAYER AND CONTRIBUTOR IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR SO MANY YEARS FORMERLY UNDER PRUDENTIAL NETWORK REALTY.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK LEE ELMORE FOR REPRESENTING THE BRAND TONIGHT AND BEING HERE.

BUT I REALLY WANT TO PUNCTUATE ALL THE GOOD THINGS DONE BY YOUR FIRM.

BY LINDA SHERER FAMILY.

CHRISTY BUDNICK.

AND I THINK, IS IT BUDNICK? STILL. OKAY AND JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AN ATLANTIC BEACH BASED BUSINESS.

YOUR COMPANY.

AND WE LOOK FOR GREAT THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

ITEM 2.B 2024 PUBLIC WORKS WEEK PROCLAMATION.

AND I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS, IF I MAY.

PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH IN RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS EVERYDAY LIVES, AND WHEREAS THE SUPPORT OF AN UNDERSTANDING AND INFORMED CITIZENRY IS VITAL TO THE EFFICIENT OPERATION OF PUBLIC WORKS SYSTEMS AND PROGRAMS SUCH AS STREETS AND STORMWATER, BEACHES, SANITATION, PARKS AND BUILDING MAINTENANCE, LANDSCAPE AND BEAUTIFICATION.

AND WHEREAS, THE HEALTH AND HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMFORT OF THIS COMMUNITY GREATLY DEPENDS ON THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES.

AND WHEREAS THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THEIR PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS VITALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EFFORTS AND SKILL OF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS.

AND WHEREAS THE EFFICIENCY OF THE QUALIFIED AND DEDICATED PERSONNEL WHO STAFF, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS MATERIALLY INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE'S ATTITUDE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THEY PERFORM.

AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME, ADVANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL SPEAKS TO THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF EVERYDAY QUALITY OF LIFE.

NOW THEREFORE, I, CURTIS FORD, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 19TH THROUGH MAY 25TH, 2024, AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS MAKE EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN WITNESS.

WHEREFORE I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS 13TH DAY OF MAY 2024.

MR. HOGENCAMP THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CITY COMMISSION, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND OTHERWISE OF RECOGNIZING OUR GREAT PUBLIC WORKS TEAM LED BY SCOTT WILLIAMS, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.

WILL YOU JOIN ME IN THANKING AND EXPRESSING OUR APPRECIATION FOR THEM? YES. AND SO, SCOTT, I HAVEN'T YET SIGNED IT.

I WILL SIGN IT LATER AND GET IT TO YOU.

BUT MR. HOGENCAMP, DO WE HAVE ANY PLANS YET FOR A RIBBON CUTTING DEDICATION FOR THE NEW FACILITY AT THE AT THE CITY YARD? ONE WILL BE HELD.

WE THINK IT WILL BE IN EARLY JUNE.

OKAY. AND YOU'RE ALL INVITED, OF COURSE.

AND WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THAT.

WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT DO IT DURING PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE READY.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE SHINDIG NEXT WEEK, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE Y'ALL OVER TO THE NEW FACILITY IN EARLY JUNE.

WELL, I HAVE SEEN IT, I CAN ATTEST.

IT IS A FINE FACILITY.

AND WELL DONE.

MR. WILLIAMS JUST IN TIME FOR HURRICANE SEASON, SO HOPEFULLY WE DON'T NEED IT FOR THAT.

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YES. YES, SIR.

JUST ONE THING BEFORE HE SNEAKS OUT OF HERE.

THAT LITTLE STORM WE HAD ON FRIDAY.

YEAH, IT WASN'T A SMALL STORM IF YOU DROVE AROUND.

PUBLIC WORKS DID A GREAT JOB.

WE HAD A CHUNK OF SEMINOLE THAT WAS BLOCKED FOR A WHILE.

YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THAT DOES.

BUT THEY WERE LIKE THEY WERE WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR, AND I WATCHED THEM METHODICALLY GO THROUGH A CLEANUP.

SO, GREAT, GREAT JOB.

APPRECIATE IT. YES.

THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY, MAYOR PUBLIC WORKS IS ALONG WITH POLICE OR THE SOURCE OF, OF REGULAR NOTES OF APPRECIATION TO US. TODAY'S NOTE OF APPRECIATION PUBLIC WORKS WAS ABOUT HOW WELL THEY DO AT RESTOCKING OUR DOG POOP BAG STATIONS.

SO, THAT WAS A COMPLIMENT OF THE DAY.

SO IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INPUT.

IT IS IMPORTANT, SCOTT. THANK YOU.

SO NOW WE WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.

LADAYIJA. DO WE HAVE ANY PEOPLE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK? YES. THE FIRST PERSON IS PENNY ERVIN BUTTERWORTH.

YES. PLEASE COME UP.

VIDEO. AND I NEVER SET THE TIME.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

SO, IF UP TO FIVE MINUTES, WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

AND I TAKE LONG, AND I DID NOT GET YOUR NAME, IF I MAY WRITE, MY NAME IS PENNY URBAN BUTTERWORTH.

I'M A RESIDENT OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

I LIVE ON WEST NINTH STREET.

I'M IN JESSICA'S TERRITORY.

OKAY. I'M HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A GROWING.

I'VE BEEN GROWING INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATED AND AGITATED WITH, UNFORTUNATELY, THE LACK OF ATTENTION THAT PUBLIC WORKS AND THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH HAS BEEN GIVING TO AN INCREASING STORMWATER AND FLOODING ISSUE ON WEST NINTH STREET.

I HAVE BROUGHT IT TO THE CITY FOR SEVEN YEARS CONSECUTIVELY.

FOR SEVEN YEARS I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S BEING ADDRESSED, IT'S BEING REVIEWED, IT'S BEING LOOKED AT, AND THAT IT'S STILL A STRUGGLE FOR ME TO GET PUBLIC WORKS TO COME CLEAR THE DITCH.

THE ISSUE IS THE PROPERTY BETWEEN MAYPORT ROAD AND 66 WEST NINTH STREET.

100% OF THE ROADWAY IS IMPERVIOUS.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL ALLOW THE WATER TO DRAIN BETWEEN MAYPORT ROAD AND 66.

THEREFORE, WHEN THEY REMOVED THE PIPE PRE-2018, PROBABLY ABOUT 2016, THEY REMOVED A PIPE THAT DRAINED THE PARKING LOT AT 59 WEST NINTH STREET, WHICH IS NOW ELLEN LAWN CARE.

IT USED TO DRAIN THEIR PARKING LOT ONTO THE ROADWAY, WHERE IT WOULD THEN DRAIN INTO THE DITCH.

WHEN THEY REMOVED THAT PIPE, THEY DID NOT REGRADE THE ROAD.

THEN THEY HAVE REPAVED THE ROAD AND NOW IT IS A NICE BATHTUB.

WITH EVERY SINGLE RAIN EVENT, THE WATER CAN REACH 18IN DEEP.

I HAVE SENT VIDEO AFTER VIDEO TO MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, TO THE VARIOUS OFFICIALS, EVEN MR. HOGENCAMP AND I'M ALWAYS TOLD IT'S BEING REVIEWED.

IT'S BEING INCLUDED IN X, Y AND Z STUDY, BUT NOTHING IS EVER DONE.

AND NOW THEY ARE EVEN CLOSING MY CIVIL REQUESTS TO CLEAR THE DITCH.

NO MATTER WHEN I OPENED THEM, THEY WILL WEEP.

THEY WILL USE A WEED EATER TO CLEAR IT AND THEN THAT'LL BE IT.

I'LL SUBMIT ANOTHER REQUEST AND WHOEVER'S AT THEIR OFFICE WILL IMMEDIATELY CLOSE IT.

IT NEEDS TO BE DUG OUT SO THAT THE WATER CAN PERCOLATE INTO THE GROUND, BECAUSE THE ONLY SIDE THAT THE WATER PERCOLATES INTO IS THE SOUTH SIDE.

THE NORTH SIDE DOES NOT DRAIN.

IT IS COMPACTED FULL, SO THERE'S NO DRAINAGE TO THE STORM DRAIN OR TO THE WATER DRAIN AT 86 WEST NINTH STREET, UNLESS IT COMES TO THE HEAD OF THE SWALE AT MY HOUSE.

BUT THAT SWALE GETS CLOGGED WITH ALL OF THE ROAD DEBRIS, AND THEY WON'T CONTINUALLY KEEP IT CLEAR.

IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS SINCE THE MACHINE CAME AND DUG IT OUT.

THEY DID COME LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR PRIOR WITH A SHOVEL.

SOMEONE ACTUALLY DID COME AND DIG IT OUT, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE.

I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I PUT IN THAT REQUEST THROUGH CIVIL, THE CIVIL REQUEST SYSTEM, AS I'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO DO.

SO, I GET NO ATTENTION TO IT, AND THERE'S ALWAYS A REASON WHY IT'S NOT ADDRESSED.

SO, WHO DO I HAVE TO REQUEST A SIGN ABOUT THE STANDING WATER FROM? BECAUSE YOU SHOULD SEE THE LOOK ON SOME OF THE DRIVER'S FACES WHEN THEY HIT 18IN OF WATER DOING 25 AND A 15-FOOT WATER WAVES GO UP EACH SIDE OF

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IT'S LITERALLY GOING TO HURT SOMEONE.

AND THEN THERE WILL BE VIDEOS AS EVIDENCE OF THE CITY DOING NOTHING, SO IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BUTTERWORTH.

AND WE DON'T RESPOND TO CITIZENS AT COURTESY OF THE FLOOR, BUT I ASSURE YOU, SOMEONE WILL FOLLOW UP.

THANK YOU. DON WOLFSON.

YEAH. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

THAT WAS REQUEST WAS A HARD ONE TO FOLLOW.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT.

YOU HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR.

COMMISSIONER RING.

THIS LADY DEFINITELY NEEDS SOME RELIEF OVER THERE.

AND I KNOW THAT THIS THIS WONDERFUL COMMISSION, PUBLIC WORKS, IS VERY RESPONSIVE.

SHE NEEDS SOME HELP.

SO, THAT BEING SAID I CAME HERE TO BE VERY POSITIVE.

I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION.

MAYOR, YOU HAVE EXCELLED.

YOUR EFFORTS TO SAVE AB HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING.

AND IT HAS BEEN NOTED BY MANY OF THE SAVE ATLANTIC BEACH FAMILIES, CITIZENS.

I'VE HEARD SO MANY PEOPLE COMMENDING YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING HAS BEEN VERY ON POINT. I KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION IT'S WONDERFUL WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU DID I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN BROWARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THEY HAD A REFERENDUM THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

THE CITIZENS OUTPOURING WAS VERY STRONG, AND THEY ROLLED BACK SCHOOL CLOSURES.

THEY LISTENED.

ON APRIL 22ND, THE THREE MAYORS SENT OUT A WONDERFUL LETTER REQUESTING A MEETING.

I THINK IT WAS.

MAY THE 10TH, NO, MAY THE 8TH.

I WAS SITTING IN A MEETING.

MAYOR. YOU HAD CREATED AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

I WAS SITTING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY, A CITY MAYOR.

I'M SORRY, OUR CITY MANAGER AND A FORMER MAYOR, AND I ASKED THEM IF THEY HAD RECEIVED AN INVITATION TO THE MEETING THAT WAS TAKING PLACE WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND DSPS.

THE ANSWER WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.

THE LETTER REQUESTED WAS APRIL 22ND.

FINALLY, THIS EVENING AT 5:35, YOU RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM CHAIRMAN [INAUDIBLE] IS ABOUT TIME.

WE HAVE LEGAL STANDING.

AND THEY NEED TO LISTEN TO US AND TO OUR FELLOW PARTIES, TO THE TABLE, TO THAT AGREEMENT.

CITY OF JACKSONVILLE BEACH, THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH AND BALDWIN.

WE HAVE BEEN IGNORED.

WE HAVE BEEN DISRESPECTED AND WE'VE BEEN TURNED AWAY FROM THE PROCESS.

IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

DID THEY LISTEN TO US? THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

I READ WITH INTEREST.

THE MOTION IS BEING MADE BY COMMISSIONER RING.

I HOPE THERE WILL BE A SECOND AND A DEBATE AND FULL SUPPORT.

THIS I KNOW WAS WRITTEN IN COLLABORATION TO HELP.

COMMISSIONER. RING. SHE HAS BEEN VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN WITH PASSION, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS SCHOOL IS TO HER CHILDREN AND TO THE CHILDREN OF OUR COMMUNITY AND TO THE VERY FABRIC OF THIS COMMUNITY.

AND IT WAS WRITTEN WITH A COLLABORATION OF ATTORNEYS AND CITIZENS TO HELP COMMISSIONER RING.

AND I HOPE ALL OF YOU WILL BE RECEPTIVE TO WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO DO.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET INFORMATION FROM THE DSPS.

THEY'VE BEEN IGNORING US.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH US, AND THE CITY NEEDS TO TAKE A POSITION THAT WE NOW EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER.

I THINK WE HAVE A WONDERFUL CITY ATTORNEY THAT CAN PUT IT IN YOUR WORDS, AND YOU CAN SEND THAT MESSAGE TO THEM AS LONG OVERDUE.

THEY DECIDED THEY DECIDED THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND DSPS TO IGNORE US AND TO REMOVE US FROM THAT TABLE.

BY STATUTE, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH THEM TWICE A YEAR.

THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM IN THAT.

THAT'S MANDATED.

BUT I THINK SIX YEARS AGO, THEY DECIDED COLLECTIVELY, THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND DSPS, THAT WE WEREN'T IMPORTANT IN THAT EFFORT.

AND NOW THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES TO THAT.

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IT'S LONG OVERDUE.

AND AS I SAID, I CAN'T THANK ALL OF YOU ENOUGH FOR THE EFFORTS THAT YOU ALL ARE MAKING.

TO SAVE THIS WONDERFUL INSTITUTION.

I MEAN, THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS TO BE CREATIVE ABOUT IT, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, THIS SCHOOL TO OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO, I'M HERE SUPPOSEDLY IN A VERY POSITIVE LIGHT, TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND HOPEFULLY WHAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WILSON. AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAD LEFT FIVE SECONDS ON THE CLOCK.

I'M NOT SURE YOU INTENDED, SO I WON'T BE FIVE SECONDS.

I OWE YOU FIVE SECONDS.

THANK YOU, MR. WILSON. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER, CAROLYN ZISSER.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR JASON GABRIEL, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION AND MY FELLOW, MY FELLOW ATLANTIC BEACH CITIZENS.

YOU HAVE MY NAME.

MY ADDRESS IS ON RECORD, AND I'M HERE NOT ONLY AS AN ATLANTIC BEACH CITIZEN, BUT ALSO IN MY CAPACITY AS AN ATTORNEY, BECAUSE I CAN'T THIS HEAD JUST GOES WITH ME WHEREVER I SEND TO GO WITH A WITH A LEGAL BRAIN.

AND SO, AS I KNOW ABOUT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT I WANT TO SPEAK IN STRONG FAVOR OF THE ABSOLUTE NECESSITY OF PASSING.

JESSICA RING'S, HER MOTION THIS EVENING THAT HAS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO WHICH THE CITIZENS AND ATLANTIC BEACH HAS AND TO THE COMMISSION, AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES ARE ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED TO THE PROCEDURE IS IN THE IS ON RECORD.

THE NAME OF THE PERSON TO SEND IT TO, I KNOW WILL BE KNOWN, BUT I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE ANY DETAILS THAT ARE NEEDED.

AND THE REASON FOR THIS DOCUMENT REQUEST IS WE REALLY HAVE TO KNOW THE REAL DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING IT IS GOING TO COST FOR ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY TO CONTINUE.

WE WANT TO SAVE ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

THAT IS OUR GOAL.

WE ALSO ARE ONE OF FIVE CITIES WHO ARE WHO ARE PARTIES TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.

SO, I'M HOPING THAT IF THIS COMMISSION PASSES THE MOTION TONIGHT, THAT IT WILL THEN NOT ONLY BE SENT OUT IN LEGAL TERMS, IT'S CALLED PROMULGATED.

IT'S GOING TO BE SENT OUT IN EASY WORDS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, BECAUSE TIME IS NOT ON OUR SIDE. THE DCPS IS PLANNING TO HAVE HEARINGS TO TO TALK ABOUT A BUDGET IN SEPTEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN POSSIBLY DO THAT WHEN THEY HAVEN'T BEGUN MEETING WITH THE FIVE SIGNATORIES TO THIS AGREEMENT.

SO, THEY'RE MEETING WITH US IS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT OF THE NECESSITY OF GETTING THE DATA THAT IS IN EACH OF THESE ITEMS IN THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE BASIS, THE FINANCIAL BASIS OF THE MASTER FACILITY PLAN AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE BEACHES, SCHOOLS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BRING HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE BRINGING UP THE FACT HOW THE MONEY THAT OUR REAL ESTATE GENERATES IS MUCH HIGHER AND THEREFORE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONSIDERATION OF THAT.

SO, IN CONCLUSION, I TOTALLY ENDORSE THE MISS RING'S MOTION FOR TONIGHT.

IT HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OF PUTTING THIS REQUEST TOGETHER.

AND THIS DOCUMENT REQUEST IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL TO GETTING THE DATA THAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR HAVE OUR OWN CONSULTANT, LOOK AT THE DATA AND DETERMINE WHAT THE REAL FACE OF THE, OF THE FINANCES ARE, AND HOPEFULLY DO SOME POLITICAL ACTION SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE MONEY FROM TALLAHASSEE FOR TRULY TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MISS ZISSER.

JACKIE BECKENBACH.

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I FIRST OF ALL, JUST WANT TO THANK WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS DONE.

THEY ARE AMAZING.

THERE'S EIGHT OF THEM.

WE PLAYED THERE THIS WEEKEND.

THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM FOR EVERYBODY TO PLAY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO ROTATE OFF.

SO, WHOEVER WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIG THANK YOU.

IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

AND THEN ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION AROUND AB.

TO TRY TO PRESERVE IT BEING HERE, I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS AMONGST ALL OF YOU AND THAT YOU'RE ALL IN ALIGNMENT TO BE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE, YOU KNOW, THIS VALUABLE ASSET THAT WE HAVE HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH THAT REALLY CREATES THE COMMUNITY ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR WORK WITH THAT FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM DOWNTOWN.

I FEEL LIKE THEY'VE NOT BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT WITH US AROUND WHERE THE MONEY IS DISAPPEARED TO.

I ACTUALLY SAW A THING ON FACEBOOK I WAS GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU.

IT SAYS, I WANT TO LEARN TO PLAY GOLF.

THE PUBLIC COURSE IS OFFERING FREE LESSONS.

I WANT A MORE EXCLUSIVE EXPERIENCE THOUGH, SO I WANT TO LEARN AT THE PRIVATE COUNTRY CLUB.

BUT I ALSO WANT THE PUBLIC COURSE TO PAY FOR MY MEMBERSHIP.

AND THAT'S HOW SCHOOL VOUCHERS WORK.

SO, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S BEEN DRAINING OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL BUDGET MONEY TO MAINTAIN SCHOOLS LIKE WE HAVE OUT HERE.

THAT REALLY SHOULD BE A MODEL FOR ALL SCHOOLS IN DUVAL COUNTY, WHERE FLORIDA DOESN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD REPUTATION FOR EDUCATION.

AND I FEEL LIKE WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SCHOOL LIKE THIS, THEY OUGHT TO BE HIGHLIGHTING IT AND NOT TRYING TO CLOSE IT.

SO, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE SUPPORT COMMISSIONER RING'S PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE DATA AND THE NUMBERS AND THE MONEY.

AND I THINK IF WE FOLLOW THE MONEY, THAT WILL HELP US WITH OUR ARGUMENT AS TO WHY A SCHOOL LIKE ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY OUGHT TO REMAIN VIABLE AND HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, MISS BECKENBAUER.

OKAY. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO OUR VISITORS, AND WE'LL MOVE STRAIGHT TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

BEFORE WE GET TO THREE, A I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST EXTEND A REQUEST TO TO YOU ALL IN THE ROOM AND OUR CITIZENRY TO ACTIVATE YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND CONSTITUENTS TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER SURVEY.

IT'S COMING TO A CLOSE.

AND IF EACH OF YOU MOTIVATE 10 OR 15 MORE PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY, OUR NUMBERS WILL BE SATISFACTORY, AND IT'LL GO A LONG WAY TOWARD HELPING US PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR NEW COMMUNITY CENTER COMING ON BOARD AND FOR THE FUTURE OF GALE BAKER CENTER UNDER THE CATEGORY OF KEY RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS WORKING WITH OUR IT DEPARTMENT, OUR BUILDING PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE IMPLEMENTED A WEB PLATFORM THAT ENABLES THE PUBLIC TO CHECK THE STATUS OF A BUILDING PERMIT ONLINE.

LONG TIME COMING.

IT'S LIVE.

AND WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT.

AND WE'LL GET THAT IN OUR MESSAGING.

AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE SPLASH PAD PROJECT IS VIRTUALLY COMPLETE.

WE'RE STILL AIMING FOR A MEMORIAL DAY WEEK OPENING.

OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING PROJECT IS WRAPPING UP AND IN EARLY JUNE, MOVE IN AS PLANNED.

AS FAR AS OUR PICKLEBALL EXPANSION FROM 4 TO 8 COURTS MISS BECKENBAUER WAS TAXPAYING CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH WHO MADE THAT HAPPEN THROUGH THIS CITY COMMISSION.

AND I'VE BEEN ON THEM, TOO.

THEY'RE GREAT. AND EVERY DAY, DOZENS OF PEOPLE PLAY PICKLEBALL.

THAT'S A SIGN THAT THAT'S A GOOD INVESTMENT.

I THINK. OTHERWISE, STAFF IS PREPARING A FLORIDA WATER QUALITY GRANT APPLICATION TO ASSIST WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER TO RESIDENCES ALONG WEST PLAZA AND BEGONIA THAT DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE.

SO, WE'RE CARRYING OUT THAT THAT PLAN OUR CITY ENGINEER, STEVE SWANN, IS WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT.

HE AND STAFF ALSO ARE WORKING WITH THE AQUATIC GARDENS, HOPKIN CREEK STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROJECT DESIGN ENGINEERS, AND ALSO THE LOW BID CONTRACTOR

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AS YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY ADVERTISED THIS PROJECT RECENTLY THE LOW BID, THE ONLY BID CAME IN THREE TIMES THE BUDGET.

WHILE NOW WE'RE HOPING AND THINKING AND KIND OF CONFIDENT AND HOPEFUL THAT OUR VALUE ENGINEERING EFFORT WHICH WILL TAKE ANOTHER FEW MONTHS WILL ENABLE US TO COME CLOSE TO ACHIEVING OUR GOALS WITHIN BUDGET.

SO JUST THE HARD WORK IS, IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES THERE.

AND WE APPRECIATE THE PATIENCE OF THE COMMUNITY ON THAT PROJECT.

THE 18TH STREET BEACH WALKOVER WIDENING PROJECT IS STILL ON TARGET.

THAT WORK WILL FOLLOW THE DUTTON ISLAND PIER PROJECT.

IT'S THE SAME CONTRACTOR AS A CONTRACTOR THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR THE TIDE VIEWS CONSTRUCTION AND RECONSTRUCTION EFFORTS.

SO, THE IDEA IS TO KEEP 18TH STREET ACCESS OPEN DURING BEACH SEASON AND ATTACK IT RIGHT AFTER BEACH SEASON.

AND GET THAT GET THAT PROJECT DONE.

AND ALSO, IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS OUR LIGHTNING PROTECTION SYSTEM, EXPANDING IT TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST TO RUSSELL PARK, WHICH IS ACTUALLY QUITE TIMELY IN THAT WE HEARD FROM A RESIDENT FOLLOWING SOME LIGHTNING LAST WEEK SAYING, HEY, WHAT ABOUT EXPANDING IT TO RUSSELL PARK? AND INDEED, IT WAS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA.

YOU ALL HAD ALREADY BUDGETED THAT LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THAT PROJECT FORWARD TO YOU.

AND I'M ALMOST DONE.

IF YOU'LL RECALL, THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES GRANT OPPORTUNITY, WHERE WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP A NONPROFIT, BEAM WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEY INDEED HAD BEEN AWARDED THAT GRANT.

AND WE APPRECIATE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR ENCOURAGING US TO MAKE THAT APPLICATION.

AND LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, FLAG FOOTBALL SEASON HAS COME TO AN END.

I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU ALL TO JOIN ME IN EXPRESSING APPRECIATION, IN PARTICULAR TO OUR RESIDENT TRACY GABBARD, WHO AS A VOLUNTEER, ADMINISTERED THAT WHOLE PROGRAM ALL SEASON LONG.

IT WAS A REMARKABLE, SUCCESSFUL EFFORT, A LABOR OF LOVE.

THAT'S JUST ONE OF MANY THINGS HE DOES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, WE'RE HE IS ON THE ARTS, RECREATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE.

AND WHEREVER YOU ARE, OUR HEARTFELT THANKS.

THAT'S ALL AS FAR AS MY REPORT, EXCEPT FOR MOVING INTO THE 90-DAY CALENDAR.

I'D LIKE TO BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOUR ATTENTION.

ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON MAY 21ST AT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS HAVING ON THE COMP PLAN, TEXT AND MAP AMENDMENT.

THAT'S HERE AT 6 P.M.

ON THE 21ST.

YOU ALL HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE COMMISSION DOES ON JUNE 24TH AND OCTOBER 28TH AS WE UPDATE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING YOU DO WITH A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE IN THIS ROOM NEXT MONDAY.

AND I'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE HERE TO ATTEND THE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY AT 9 A.M., MEMORIAL DAY AT BEACH'S VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.

AND WITH THAT, I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO ACCEPT THE 90-DAY CALENDAR, AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

COMMISSIONER KELLY.

PROBABLY NEXT TIME YOU PUBLISH THIS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE 4TH OF JULY IS AT CITY GOES DAY.

OKAY? YOU GOT IT.

WE SEPARATE POLICE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SORRY. OKAY.

IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO ACCEPT THE CALENDAR? YEP. ACCEPTED.

MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU. THE FINAL ITEM UNDER CITY MANAGER'S REPORTS IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PUBLISHED ITS 2023 ANNUAL REPORT, A COPY OF WHICH IS PUBLISHED ON THE WEB AND IS IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT; COMMANDER CAMERON IS REPRESENTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GENERALLY FOR THIS MEETING.

AND THE CHIEF'S DEAD.

BUT JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION.

AND ALONG THE WAY, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I WAS, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TO THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THE REPORT IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO, I GUESS THAT'S KUDOS FOR CHIEF VICK GETTING THE REPORT DONE EARLY.

IS DO WE USUALLY GET IT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR? I THINK IT IS THIS TIME OF YEAR AND FRANKLY, FISCAL YEAR 2023 ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH.

SO MAYBE, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EARLY OR LATE OR RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.

SO, IT IS THIS TIME OF YEAR THAT THAT WE PUBLISH THAT REPORT.

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YOU BETCHA. OKAY, NOW IT'S TIME FOR ITEM FOUR ON THE AGENDA REPORTS OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

A COUPLE QUICK THINGS.

IT'S DANCING IN THE STREET SATURDAY.

YES, IT IS. IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR WRISTBAND TO KIND OF CUT OUT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UNDERAGE DRINKING OR WHATEVER.

SO, COMMISSIONER BOLE'S TIP OF THE DAY IS BRING CASH.

IF YOU GUYS KNOW, SOMETIMES A CREDIT CARD IS A PROBLEM DOWN THERE, SO.

OKAY. GO EARLY, SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, SUPPORT BEACHES, TOWN CENTER.

AND ALSO, I ALREADY MADE MY COMMENT ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

SO, I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS FOR THE.

MIC].

IT'S SHORT AND SWEET.

BRING LAWN CHAIRS. YOU CAN SIT IN THE SHADE BUT DO PLEASE COME AND BRING KIDS SO THEY CAN SEE WHAT IT MEANS TO US.

REGARDING THE CALENDAR, THE TOWN HALL FOR JULY.

YOU HAVE TO START WITHOUT ME.

OKAY? WE HADN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT DAY WE WERE GOING TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, HAVE A NICE TALK.

SO, I HAVE I WANT TO BRING UP A TOPIC THAT SORT OF WAS TRIGGERED BY TWO THINGS.

AND ONE WAS BY OUR ATTENTION TO RISK POLICY AND RISK MANAGEMENT.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS OUR DEAR LEGISLATOR'S INTENTION TO PREVENT US FROM PRESCRIBING HEAT PROTECTION FOR OUR WORKERS.

AND BOTH THE OSHA SIDE AND THE CDC SIDE ARE PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE EMPLOYER'S OBLIGATIONS ARE TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HEAT RELATED ILLNESSES AND ACCIDENTS.

SO, I'M VERY SURE THAT THAT SCOTT DOES A GREAT JOB OF REMINDING HIS PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER DETAILS IN WHAT SHOULD BE A GOOD PROGRAM.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS DOCUMENTATION, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE, LIKE, SO YOU'VE BEEN WORKING IN, IN JULY, AND NOW YOU GO TO MICHIGAN FOR THREE WEEKS.

WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOU SHOULD BE GIVEN TIME TO ACT RE-ACCLIMATE TO OUR SMOTHERING ATMOSPHERE BEFORE YOU'RE PUT BACK OUT FOR EIGHT FULL HOURS. AND ANOTHER ONE IS TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL CLEARANCE.

SO, IF YOU'RE A HEALTHY 20-YEAR-OLD, HAVE AT IT.

BUT THOSE OF US OF CERTAIN AGE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT HAVE THAT MUCH HEAT STRESS.

SO, I'D LIKE US TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

SO THAT OUR PROGRAM REMAINS VIGILANT EVEN IF SCOTT CROSSES THE RAINBOW BRIDGE OR GOES AWAY, HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY OUR WORKERS, BUT PEOPLE WE CONTRACT WITH THAT, THAT OUR CONTRACTOR'S PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING SUBJECTED TO UNDUE STRESSES DUE TO OUR LOVELY CLIMATE.

THEY ALSO HAVE ONE ABOUT THE COLD, BUT I THINK WE CAN SKIP THAT.

SO, I'D JUST LIKE TO PLOP THAT INTO OUR FUTURE.

CONSIDERATIONS. AND THAT'S IT.

COME TO MEMORIAL DAY.

WHAT TIME DOES THAT BEGIN? COMMISSIONER ZERO NINE.

OKAY. NINE. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER RING.

I DO WANT TO ADDRESS MISS URBAN BUTTERWORTH'S CONCERN ABOUT NINTH STREET FLOODING AND OUR CORRESPONDENCE BACK AND FORTH FOR THE PAST YEAR.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT FOR THE CLOSING, AND I'M GOING TO JUMP RIGHT INTO MY MOTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE WHICH IS REQUESTING A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FOR DUVAL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND I PROVIDED AN UPDATED ONE TO LADAYIJA, AND SHE SENT IT EMAILED, AND I THINK SHE DID PRINT IT OUT.

AND THERE'S SOME COPIES UP HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE RED LINED CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THAT ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT I HAD PUT INTO THAT AGENDA LAST WEEK.

I THINK THAT THIS IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.

YOU KNOW, I AS FAR AS WANTING TO ADD OR SUBTRACT TO IT, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO JASON AS WELL LAST WEEK AND GETTING HIS COUNSEL ALONG WITH BILL BEFORE HE LEFT ON BEREAVEMENT, AND HE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS AS WELL.

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AND I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

I WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME AND AS PUBLIC COURTESY OF THE FLOOR HAS ALREADY SUGGESTED WITH THE TIMELINE WE HAVE MAY 21ST.

IS THAT PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC INPUT? MEETING AT FLETCHER HIGH AT 530.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE A NEW SUPERINTENDENT BEFORE JUNE 1ST.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

WILLIE SAY THIS MORNING ON THE NEWS.

SO SEPTEMBER IS WHEN THEY'RE VOTING, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD A MEETING YET WITH THEM.

SO I THINK MORE INFORMATION IS BETTER.

AND SO WE HAVE OUR.

MOVE IN MIND AND WHATEVER IS HAPPENING THAT WE'RE NOT WAITING AT THE BACK END OF THIS.

OKAY. SO YEAH, I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MOVE TO COMMISSIONER.

WATERS. SO COMMISSIONER BOLE.

YEAH, A COUPLE THINGS.

I FULLY SUPPORT THE MEASURE, BUT BUT I WHAT I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IS WE, WE KNOW HOW OUR CITY CLERK RESPONDS TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.

YEAH. MY FIRST QUESTION IS IS THAT SIMILAR TO DUVAL COUNTY, DO THEY FOLLOW THE SAME GUIDELINES THAT IF I WAS A CITIZEN IN ATLANTIC BEACH AND I FILED A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST? DO YOU KNOW THAT? THROUGH THE CHAIR.

SO THERE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AS TO PROMPTNESS.

AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S BEING ASKED FOR.

IF THINGS ARE READILY AVAILABLE, THEY NEED TO BE DISSEMINATED PRETTY QUICKLY IF THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO REQUIRE IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE MORE TIME AND POSSIBLY EVEN COST INVOLVED.

BUT TYPICALLY JURISDICTIONS OR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES HAVE SIMILAR I CAN'T SAY THEY'RE IDENTICAL, BUT SIMILAR TYPES OF PROTOCOLS.

SCHOOL. THE DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD CERTAINLY HAS THEIR RELATIVELY SOPHISTICATED WITH THIS SORT OF THING, BECAUSE THEY DO GET A LOT OF THESE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

SO THERE WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIND OUT PRETTY QUICKLY WHO THE CUSTODIAN IS, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ALSO, THERE POSSIBLY COULD BE.

WELL, NOW I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS BEING ASKED FOR HERE ARE READILY AVAILABLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE CITY OR THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL USE THEIR PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THESE ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE.

WHY ARE WE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CHARGE ANYONE.

SO I CAN'T SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO CHARGE.

THEY COULD.

YEAH. USUALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME CLERKS, THEY CHARGE PER PAGE WHATEVER.

AND THAT'S AND EVEN THAT STATUTORILY MANDATED LIKE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY COULD EVEN CHARGE IF THEY WANTED TO.

BUT THAT, THAT THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS IN HERE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A WHILE FOR THEM TO GET.

OKAY, I WOULD GUESS SOME RESUMES AND SOME OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

MY POINT IS I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR TIME TO RESPOND IS.

OKAY, THAT THAT'S NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF THEY DON'T RESPOND BY A CERTAIN TIME I'M THIS IS AT THE NUCLEAR OPTION.

BUT I THINK WE PUBLICIZE THAT, RIGHT? THAT WE, IN FACT, HAVE ASKED THIS AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, AND YOU BY THE WAY, YOU CAN ADD TO THIS AS A CITIZEN.

ALSO, IF THEY'RE SMART PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN CAN ANSWER SOME, SOME PROBING QUESTIONS.

BUT I THINK THE PATH IS, YOU KNOW, WE ASK LET'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S TIME STAMP IT, YOU KNOW, GET THEM ON RECORD.

AND THEN ON MAY 21ST, WE GO TO FLETCHER AND WE START ASKING QUESTIONS, OKAY.

BECAUSE THIS THEY COULD SAY, YEAH, WE GOT IT AND THEY GOT IT, THEY GOT IT, THEY GOT IT.

AND WE DON'T SEE IT FOR A LONG TIME.

YES. AND THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE.

AND, AND WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO APPLY THIS DOWN WITH.

TO DATE? YES.

GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER. KELLY.

SO DO THEY HAVE TO? CAN THEY WAIT UNTIL THEY HAVE EVERYTHING, OR CAN THEY SEND US WHAT THEY GOT? YEAH, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ANSWER.

AND YOU READ MY MIND.

WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT IN THERE THAT AS THESE DOCUMENTS ARE ASCERTAINABLE AND READILY AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THEM ON A ROLLING BASIS, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR EVERYTHING AND THEN SENDING IT ALL AT ONCE.

SO WE CAN WE CAN CLARIFY IN THERE THAT WE WANT IT AS YOU HAVE IT AVAILABLE, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE RIGHT OFF THE BAT, AND THEN CERTAIN THINGS THAT MAY TAKE A LITTLE LONGER.

YES. COMMISSIONER I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS THIS ALL INCLUSIVE? IS THIS TOO MUCH? THERE'S A LOT OF TOPICS HERE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T WE'RE ASKING JUST ENOUGH.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF INPUT ON THIS, AND AS FAR AS WE KNOW, IT'S.

THIS IS ALL WE REALLY NEED, RIGHT? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY.

THIS IS A BEGINNING.

AND THERE COULD BE SUBSEQUENT REQUESTS ON THIS.

YEAH. AFTER WE GET WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

BUT I THINK IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ECHO THE THE QUESTION ABOUT COSTS AND SO ON, AND ASSUMING THIS BODY WOULD LIKE TO, TO GIVE CONSENSUS TONIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD TO OUR CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE THAT CONSENSUS TO STATE THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS OUR DIRECTION TO ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC

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YES, COMMISSIONER. CAN THEY BE SENT ELECTRONICALLY THEN? WE'RE NOT COSTING PER PAGE.

THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, BETTER.

WELL, YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY, IF IT'S ELECTRONIC, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO MATTER THE TYPE OF MEDIUM THAT THEY USE.

BUT I THINK WHERE THEY'RE POSSIBLE.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO. THERE MAY BE NO COST AT ALL, BUT WHERE IT MIGHT BE SOME LABOR IS WHERE THEY ACTUALLY DO AN ITD SEARCH.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO SEARCH FOR CORRESPONDENCE IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME BETWEEN CERTAIN PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S WHERE THERE MAY BE A LABOR CHARGE.

BUT BUT AS FAR AS I MEAN, PROBABLY WE'D PREFER THEM ALL TO BE ELECTRONIC TO THE EXTENT THEY CAN BE.

OKAY, IF I MAY, OR I DIDN'T MEAN.

I WANT TO INTERRUPT ANYONE'S.

I'M SURE IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS WANT TO SPEAK.

BUT ONE THING I WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST IS JUST SORT OF A FRIENDLY ADDITION TO THE MOTION IS TO AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE MAYOR JUST SAID IS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST IN THE FORM SUBSTANTIALLY SET FORTH IN THIS LETTER THAT WE HAVE.

BUT WITH SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS WE DISCUSSED AND ANY OTHER REVIEW OR MODIFICATIONS, PERHAPS AS PROPOSED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, IF YOU WANT.

AND YOU KNOW THAT WE WOULD DO IT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 119.

I WOULD JUST ADD THAT SO WE CAN GET THIS FORMED UP AGAIN PER YOUR DISCRETION AND INSTRUCTION.

SURE. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING A FORMAL MOTION ON THIS.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE CONSENSUS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE A RESOLUTION.

YEAH, THERE'S NO RESOLUTION.

BUT I THINK AS TO JUST TO FORMALIZE AN ACTION, I THINK I HEARD COMMISSIONER RING MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST THIS PUBLIC RECORDS OR TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ALONG THESE LINES.

SO IN THAT RESPECT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION ADDING WHAT WAS JUST STATED BY.

SURE. JUST DO THE BEST I CAN, JASON.

SURE. I MOVE THAT WE DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THESE SLATED ITEMS, BUT GIVING OUR STAFF OUR GENERAL COUNSEL.

THE THE DISCRETION TO AMEND AS NEEDED.

YES. I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY, SO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

SO BEFORE WE BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT.

AND I KNOW THIS IS HOW THIS GOES, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PART OF MY COMMENTS.

WE DO NEED TO PRESS ON THIS.

I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN DSPS ON THE RESPONSE THAT IS NOW THREE WEEKS IN THE MAKING FROM WHEN THE LETTER WAS SENT FROM THREE BEACHES.

MAYORS, I DID RECEIVE A COMMUNICATION FINALLY TODAY FROM CHAIRMAN WILLEY STATING THAT HE IS IN RECEIPT OF OUR REQUEST AND THAT HE WILL DO HIS BEST TO ACCOMMODATE GETTING US ON THE AGENDA, BUT YET NO OFFER OF A DATE.

AND I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE GUN.

THERE IS STILL TIME FOR THEM TO IMPRESS ME FURTHER, BUT RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT IMPRESSED BY THE DSPS RESPONSE TO OUR REQUEST.

AND SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE THAT WE PUSH ON THIS AND TO THE POINT MADE BY COMMISSIONER BOLE.

IF WE I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY LATER AND CITY MANAGER IF THEY'RE AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE RESPONSE ON OUR REQUEST THAT WE SHOULD ACTUALLY PUBLISH THAT LACK OF RESPONSE SO THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02 ON IT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM.

SO THIS IS A GREAT START.

I GUESS I'M ASKING WHO IS GOING TO ANALYZE IT OR HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET IT ANALYZED, AND WHAT DO WE HOPE TO GET FROM IT? OKAY. COMMISSIONER RING DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? SO I THINK HAVING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION ALLOWS OUR GENERAL COUNSEL TO SIFT THROUGH THIS, WHAT THEY HAVE NOT MET AS FAR AS OUR ILA.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS BEING TWICE A YEAR, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, AND THEY HAVEN'T.

SO WE ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

BUT WE'RE PUBLICLY REQUESTING THAT, SO WE HAVE THAT.

SO I, I'M HOPING THAT WHAT WE GET OUT OF THIS IS MORE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT MOVE.

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WE ALREADY HAVE ALL OF THE THINGS IN MOTION.

COMMISSIONER WHEN WE MAKE THIS PUBLIC, THERE'S SOME SMART PEOPLE IN ATLANTIC BEACH THAT HAVE BANDED TOGETHER.

AND THAT'S RIGHT, YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

GO UP THEIR NEWSLETTER, OKAY.

YOU CAN GO UP THEIR FEED.

GO AHEAD AND GOOGLE THEM.

COME TO FLETCHER.

BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SUBSTANTIALLY A LOT SMARTER THAN ME THAT UNDERSTAND THIS AND ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS LINE FOR LINE.

OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH. AND SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT ONCE IT BECOMES PUBLIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SO MANY EYES ON IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING.

AND LET ME ECHO THAT.

COMMISSIONER BOLE IT.

THIS DATA IS PUBLIC RECORDS, REGARDLESS OF WHO PROCURES THE DATA.

WE HAPPEN TO BE THAT AGENT OF PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW.

BUT I FULLY EXPECT THAT THIS DATA IS SHARED WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THE SAVING OR THE RETENTION OF ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY DO A THOROUGH REVIEW AND THEN GIVE US FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TO DO AND HOW WE MIGHT OPERATE WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE.

BUT I REALLY DO THINK THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH ENGAGED IN SAVE OUR SCHOOL THAT THEY WOULD BE APPRIZED OF ANY DATA THAT WE OBTAIN.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE.

IN FACT, I'M WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE PRIVATE CITIZENS THAT ARE ATTORNEYS THAT HELP PUT TOGETHER THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE REQUEST, AT LEAST ON THIS FIRST PASS.

SO IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

THANK YOU FOR THE UNANIMOUS VOTE ON ON THAT.

TO CLOSE OUT ITEM FOR NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S OKAY, I FORGOT.

WE'RE GOOD. GO AHEAD. NO PROBLEM.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY TWO WEEKS AGO CITY OF JACKSONVILLE MET WITH THE THREE BEACHES MAYORS ABOUT BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

AND THEY EMPHASIZED CITY OF JACKSONVILLE COVER ALL THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT AS THEY HAVE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WE'VE HAD THREE COUNTS PARKING COUNTS FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

THE LAST ONE WAS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN I, STEVE SWANN AND THE WHOLE CREW TO COUNT.

AND IT WAS PAINSTAKING.

BUT THIS KIND OF PROVES WE DON'T REALLY NEED WE DON'T NEED PARKING COUNTS TO HAVE BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

WE CAN PUT THEM IN.

WE CAN ADD THEM. WE CAN SUBTRACT THEM.

THE STOP COMMITTEE IS ADDRESSING THIS RIGHT NOW.

THE MAIN ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS AB HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT STREETS, IT'S A VOLUMINOUS TASK, BUT SAFETY IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT BIG ISSUE WITH PARKING.

IN THIS BEACH. RENOURISHMENT I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE AGAIN THAT WE'RE COVERED WITH BEACH RENOURISHMENT FROM CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADDRESS IT IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

AND AGAIN APOLOGIES FOR NO PROBLEM.

OKAY. I'LL ROUND IT OUT.

THIS IS NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK 2024.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION, BUT WE DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION ON THAT.

BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE A BOATING COMMUNITY.

WE ARE IN THE SEASON.

SO LET'S TALK TO ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS THAT HAVE BOATS.

AND LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE ALL OPERATE WITH SAFETY IN MIND.

AND THAT WOULD BE THAT.

MOVING TO ITEM SIX.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYBODY WISH TO REMOVE FOR DISCUSSION EITHER OF THE TWO ITEMS? OKAY, OKAY.

HEARING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY WITH EYE OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. THAT IS UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. ITEM.

BUILD UP TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 24-22]

MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF LABOR, EQUIPMENT, MATERIAL FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN AND DIRECTIONAL BORE OF 12 INCH WATER.

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MAIN RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY, MINOR GRADING AND REMOVAL AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SIDEWALK.

IT WAS BUDGETED.

IT'S PRESENTED TO YOU WITHIN BUDGET.

AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2422.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 22.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2422.

SECOND. OKAY.

WE'LL ACCEPT THE SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.

KELLY. NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

KEVIN IT WAS IT WITHIN BUDGET IS BASICALLY WHAT YOU SAID, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY, THANKS.

OKAY. I LIKE THAT.

ALRIGHT. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL ACCEPT OR.

I'M SORRY. WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I OPPOSED.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UNANIMOUS APPROVAL.

ITEM EIGHT, B RESOLUTION, NUMBER 24, DASH 23, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF BEACH, FLORIDA, ADOPTING A PARK RECREATION AREA AND BUILDING NAMING POLICY,

[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 24-23]

MR.. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS POLICY WAS ON YOUR APRIL 22ND AGENDA PRESENTED FOR YOUR REVIEW AND PRELIMINARY CONSIDERATION.

WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY CHANGES TO IT SINCE, AND OTHERWISE, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVING THIS RESOLUTION THAT WE THINK IS MUCH NEEDED AS WE CONSIDER PARK NAMINGS AND RENAMINGS AND ALSO THE NAMINGS AND RENAMINGS OF RECREATION AREAS OR BUILDINGS.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE, WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-23 AS READ.

I SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER WATERS.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

THANK YOU FOR THAT UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[8.C. RESOLUTION NO. 24-25]

DASH 25, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND WHOSE HOMES AND INVESTMENTS, LLC FOR THE PURCHASE OF 2.16 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF REAL PROPERTY IN ATLANTIC BEACH ON DORA DRIVE, PARCEL ID 1721180000 AND 1721190000, AND PARCEL 1721220000 FOR THE PRICE OF $1,075,000, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS, COMPLETE DUE DILIGENCE EFFORTS, AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

THIS AGREEMENT SUPERSEDES THE PREVIOUS AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED, WITH THE CONSIDERATION THAT THE CITY WILL NOT PURCHASE A PROPERTY IF ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE NOT REMEDIATED.

THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN THIS ROOM ARE THE CITY ATTORNEY, GABRIEL CITY ENGINEER SWANN.

WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION 2425.

THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN IT UP.

OH, WAIT A SECOND. WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 25 SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

NOW WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

BUT I'LL SORT THAT COMMISSIONER.

YOU KNOW, WE I THINK WE'VE BEEN HAVING BEEN CORRECT ME, TWO YEARS, MAYBE OVER TWO YEARS LOOKING AT THIS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.

RIGHT. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD.

RIGHT. WE THEY WENT THROUGH LEVEL ONE AND IT'S LIKE A LEVEL TWO.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THEY PASS THE LEVEL TWO.

CORRECT. I'M GONNA MAYBE I'LL ASK MAYBE TWO.

BUT IT'S LIKE YEAH, THERE'S TYPICALLY A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT AND A PHASE TWO.

AND IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE IN CONTRACT ON THIS PREVIOUSLY.

OF COURSE, THAT TERMINATED BECAUSE A PHASE ONE WAS CONDUCTED AND THAT PHASE ONE FOUND CONTAMINANTS OR POTENTIAL CONTAMINANTS IN THE GROUNDWATER.

AND SO THAT WAS CAUSE FOR CONCERN.

AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S VERY MANAGEABLE STUFF FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

AND STEVE SWANN, OUR CITY ENGINEER, CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK FURTHER TO THAT.

HOWEVER, WE DIDN'T WANT TO WE'RE BEING CAUTIOUS.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROCEED WITHOUT FURTHER CAUTION AND REVIEW.

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AND ESSENTIALLY THIS PURCHASE AGREEMENT IS PREDOMINANTLY UNDER THE SAME TERMS. THERE'S AN INSPECTION PERIOD THIS TIME AROUND OF 45 DAYS.

BUT THEY HAVE, AS IN THE SELLER, THE OWNER HAS UP TO 180 DAYS TO CLEAN UP THOSE FOUND CONTAMINANTS IN THE GROUNDWATER.

AND SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH AND CREATED SOME LANGUAGE THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY PUT INTO THIS PURCHASE AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THE SELLER WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE AT A CLOSING IS ONE THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN INSPECTED TO, THAT IT MEETS APPLICABLE FDEP REQUIREMENTS FOR A PHASE ONE THREE THAT THE PROPERTY MEETS FDEP GROUNDWATER CLEANUP TARGET LEVELS FOR THE CONTAMINANTS OF CONCERN THAT WERE FOUND IN THAT PARTICULAR REPORT OF JANUARY 12TH.

AND LASTLY, THAT THE INSPECTION AND REPORTS REVEAL NO EVIDENCE OF RECOGNIZED ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.

WE CALL IT A SELLER ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT THAT WE'RE GOING TO WANT AT THE CLOSING.

SO THEY HAVE TO GET THAT TO US.

THEY HAVE 180 DAYS IN TOTAL TO DO THAT.

IF THEY GET IT A DAY, 120, THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THAT REPORT AND WE'LL HAVE A FEW DAYS TO DECIDE IF WE'RE ACCEPTING THAT REPORT OR NOT.

AND IF SO, THEN WE CLOSE AFTER THAT.

BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE TO TO HANDLE THAT, THAT PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN.

I JUST THINK IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT RESILIENCY, THIS IS NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST, AT LEAST FROM FROM WHERE I'VE BEEN SITTING.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER.

YES. SO WHY WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT TURNED OUT AND WHAT WAS IT, DECEMBER THAT IT TURNED OUT AND THEY WOULDN'T I ALL I REMEMBER IS BILL SAYING THAT HE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.

AND SO WE TERMINATED THAT CONTRACT, AND NOW WE'RE HERE.

SO NOW THE SELLER IS AGREEING TO CLEAN IT UP.

YES. AND I THINK AND MR. SWANN CAN MAYBE FILL IN SOME OF THE GAPS, BUT I THINK WE JUST MADE A DECISION AT THE TIME TO JUST TERMINATE BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS FOUND, YOU KNOW, PURPORTED ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T GOING TO PROCEED TO CLOSING WITHOUT HANDLING IT OR RESOLVING IT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND WE WERE JUST RUNNING OUT OF TIME WITH THE INSPECTION PERIOD THAT WE HAD.

SO WE DECIDED TO TERMINATE, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, REPORTED IN ONE OF THE CITY MANAGER REPORTS, BUT WE ALSO SAID THAT WE WOULD GET BACK WITH THE SELLER AND DISCUSS WITH TIME ON OUR SIDE, DISCUSS SOME LANGUAGE AND SOME RESOLVABLE THINGS THAT WOULD ENTICE US TO GET BACK IN THE CONTRACT.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S TRANSPIRED.

SO IN THE DISCLOSURES, IT'S MENTIONED RADON GAS.

RADON GAS.

AND I WANTED TO ASK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S PAGE 16.

WHY IS IT LISTED THERE? RADON GAS IS A IS A PRETTY STANDARD DISCLOSURE THAT'S REQUIRED BY PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENTS.

BUT I'M GOING TO KICK THIS ONE OFF TO OUR CITY ENGINEER SINCE HE KNOWS ABOUT THE I C MANEUVER AND OUR NEW SHIRT TOO IN OUR CHEMICAL CHART.

YEAH. STEVE SWANN, CITY ENGINEER.

COMMISSIONER RING THERE. THAT IS STANDARD, AND WE DON'T EXPECT ANY RADON IN THIS AREA.

IT WASN'T FOUND IN PHASE TWO.

NO, IT WAS NOT, NOR NOR DO WE LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY EXPECT IT HERE IN THIS AREA.

AND IT JUST IS PUT THERE IN THE DISCLOSURES.

JUST STANDARD.

YES. STANDARD. YES. OKAY.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO MAKE SURE.

SPEAKING OF BRUCE BOLLES LIABILITY, CITY LIABILITY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY OUR THAT WE'RE PROTECTED AND THAT WE'RE NOT PURCHASING A HOT POTATO, BUT WELL, YOU HAVE BROUGHT US HERE TO THIS POINT, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M.

I'M OKAY WITH IT.

OKAY WITH IT. WELL, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING THE PHASE ONE AND THE PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT IS TO GIVE US LIABILITY PROTECTION IF WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

AND NORMALLY, IF THERE WASN'T ANY PROBLEM OUT THERE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE DONE WITH PHASE ONE, AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IT.

IT'S CALLED ALL APPROPRIATE INQUIRIES.

IT'S IT'S FEDERAL REGULATION.

AND IT GOVERNS HOW DURING PROPERTY TRANSFERS, HOW ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITY WOULD TRANSFER.

AND SO THAT WOULD RELIEVE US OF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITY.

BUT WE DID FIND THAT SMALL PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF.

AND THEY WILL INDEMNIFY US FOR THAT PORTION THAT THEY'RE CLEANING UP.

AND THAT WAS THE PORTION OF STITCHES AND SCREENS THAT WAS LEAKING IN THERE.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAN THAT UP.

YEAH. THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED.

AWESOME. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU. AND MAY I DO YOU KNOW, ARE THEY DOING EXCAVATION AND BACKFILLING OR DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE

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IT WILL BE SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

IT WILL BE THEY'LL BE SAMPLING THE SOILS.

WHAT THEY DO IS WHEN THEY FIND THE IN THE CONTAMINATED AREA, THEY START EXCAVATING THE SOILS AND SAMPLE THE SOIL AND SAMPLE THE GROUNDWATER AND KEEP EXCAVATING EVERYTHING UNTIL UNTIL THE SOILS COME BACK CLEAN.

THEN THEY'LL BACKFILL IT WITH CLEAN SOIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. SWANN, CAN I CLARIFY ONE OTHER THING TOO, BY THE WAY? JUST BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S KIND OF IT'S STATED IN A FEW DIFFERENT PLACES THAT THE THE PARCEL IS ABOUT 2.16 ACRES.

JUST TO CLARIFY, IT APPEARS AND WE'LL CONFIRM THIS WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE TITLE AND SURVEY.

I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY 1.997.

I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY.

THIS IS PRETTY COMMON WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ACREAGE CHANGES A BIT.

SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE SOMETHING IN BETWEEN 1.997 ACRES AND 2.16.

I ONLY SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE CAPTION AND EVERYTHING REFERS TO A 2.16 ACRE PROPERTY.

I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY TRUE IN THAT SUBDIVISION.

YEAH. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. SORRY.

ONE MORE QUESTION. SO IT'S WE'RE PURCHASING IT FOR 1,075,000, BUT THEN THE CONSTRUCTION COST IS GOING TO BE 2.9.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING.

IT'S GOING TO BE. THAT'S.

YES. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S IT'S DOWN. IT'S DOWN THE ROAD SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AS PART OF AN OVERALL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT GOAL FOR THE CITY OF PROTECTING THE CITY.

SO THAT'LL GIVE US TIME TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE TRASH TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

YES. THAT'S RIGHT.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT DO WE WANT? TO SAVE THE TREES.

WELL, I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, AND NOW THAT IT'S BECOMING A REALITY WE NEED TO DECIDE.

WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? I MEAN, IT'S NICE HAVING TREES THERE, BUT THEY'RE TRASH TREES.

SO WHAT? WHAT? YOU KNOW, HOW SHOULD WE ADDRESS THAT? JUST. JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.

WE GOT TIME. WE'VE GOT TIME.

ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU, MR. SWANN.

OKAY. DO.

ALL RIGHT. WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

SO I SAY PARDON AND A SECOND.

AND DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 24.

DASH 25 SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. MOVING TO RESOLUTION TO ITEM EIGHT, D RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 26, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF

[8.D. RESOLUTION NO. 24-26]

MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT BEGAN OCTOBER 1ST WE WE WE TOLD YOU THAT WE WERE OPERATING WITH CIRCA 1985 SOFTWARE AT CITY HALL.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD REPLACE.

THIS WILL ENABLE ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AS WELL AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.

WE'LL BE GOING FROM THE DARK AGES TO TO MODERN DAY, JUST OVERNIGHT.

EXCEPT OVERNIGHT, IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE YEAR OF OF IMPLEMENTATION AND TRAINING.

AND THIS THIS PROJECT CAME WAY UNDER BUDGET.

WE ARE GOING TO COME COME TO YOU WHEN WE WHEN OUR RFPS COME BACK FOR CONSULTANT TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

HOWEVER, THIS AMOUNT THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SPEND TONIGHT IS THE BULK OF THE PROJECT COST.

IT STREAM STREAMLINES OUR FINANCIAL WORKFLOWS.

IT SHARES DATA ACROSS DEPARTMENTS LIKE FINANCE, PLANNING, HR, PUBLIC WORKS, PUBLIC UTILITIES, ALL OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

WE ALL TOUCH THIS PLATFORM.

IT IS THE NERVE CENTER OF OUR OPERATION.

WE ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2426.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE, WE APPROVE.

RESOLUTION 24 DASH 26 SECOND.

YEAH, I THINK COMMISSIONER BOLE GOT THE SECOND.

I REALLY WANTED THIS ONE, SO.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

COMMISSIONERS. JUST THAT.

DID YOU SAY 1985? I DID, YOU KNOW THE INTERNET DIDN'T EXIST THEN.

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BUT THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY.

RIGHT. SO THIS THIS CERTAINLY WILL WILL GET A RETURN ON THIS INVESTMENT.

BE A RETURN ON. YES.

YEAH. AND IF I HEARD CORRECTLY EARLIER IN OUR CONVERSATION, THIS IS MAYBE A $250,000 SAVINGS OFF BUDGET.

EVEN WITH, WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS, YOU KNOW, THE ADD ONS THAT INEVITABLY COME.

YEAH. DOING THE MATH, IT'S AS MUCH AS THAT, BUT CERTAINLY AT LEAST $150,000.

ONCE WE'VE COMPLETED THE ADDITIONAL PURCHASES TO MAKE IT ALL WORK WITH OTHER SOFTWARE.

OKAY, GREAT. QUESTIONS.

OTHER. OKAY. HEARING NONE.

ALL ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 26 SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. ITEM EIGHT E RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 27, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO CONTRACT WITH CNL

[8.E. RESOLUTION NO. 24-27]

TO PERFORM TIDE VIEWS, SUNSET PIER, AND WALKWAYS RENOVATIONS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH? ACTUALLY, ON MY THING, IT SAYS KILLINGSWORTH MR. MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU ON BEHALF, WHEN YOU ARE ON BEHALF OF MR. KILLINGSWORTH THE PRICE FOR THIS PROJECT AT $317,000.

IT'S IT'S COMING FROM THREE PROJECT, THREE PROJECTS.

WE BUDGETED $200,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.

THE BIG CAME IN.

THE BID THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IS 317,000.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED FUNDS REMAINING FROM THE LEVY ROAD SIDEWALK WALK PROJECT AND THE DUTTON ISLAND REDECKING PROJECT.

AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO AUTHORIZE US TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT FOR $317,000 BY APPROVING RESOLUTION 2427. I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24, DASH 27 AS READ.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS.

OKAY. I THINK WE'RE WITHIN BUDGET BECAUSE WE'RE MOVING MONIES THAT WERE NOT SPENT.

I'M CERTAINLY IN FAVOR OF THAT.

COMMISSIONER. WATERS.

YEP. BOLE.

KELLY. OKAY. OKAY.

HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING RESOLUTION 24, DASH 27, SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED.

YOUR VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.

[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 20-24-173, Introduction and First Reading]

INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING.

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU. THIS IS FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING THE BUDGET.

WHAT THIS DOES IS ENABLE US TO TAKE ON THIS $250,000 PROJECT THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, THIS US DOT FUNDED PROJECT.

OUR OUR MATCH IS 50,000 $200,000 IS REIMBURSABLE.

THIS, OF COURSE, IS TO IMPLEMENT OUR VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN THAT, AS YOU MAY RECALL, OUR OUR STOCK COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HELP SERVE HELP US SERVING AS AS A TASK FORCE TO WORK WITH THE CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT.

SO THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE $200,000 COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT'S BEEN JUST SITTING SINCE 2017.

AND MOST RECENTLY, YOU MAY RECALL 200,000 OF THAT.

ACTUALLY, $247,000 WAS IN YOUR BUDGET.

OR MAYBE IT PERCEIVES THIS COMMISSION FOR A MURAL PROJECT.

THAT COMMISSION, THAT PROJECT WAS ABANDONED.

AND WE THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD USE TO PULL MONEY FROM.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, 200,000 OF THE 250 IS REIMBURSABLE.

YOU MAY NOTICE THAT THERE'S A $3,000 GAP.

AND THE CITY MANAGERS CAN IDENTIFY FUNDING WITHIN THE CURRENT BUDGET TO, TO PAY THAT OTHER $3,000.

I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024, DASH 173 ON FIRST READING.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

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ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING ORDINANCE 20, DASH 24, DASH 173 SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

OPPOSED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT.

THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS]

AND I SOMETIMES FORGET OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT? JUST A QUICK, FRIENDLY REMINDER.

I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES COMING UP TO FILE.

AND WITH THAT, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THE STATUTES FOR FOUR HOURS OF ETHICS TRAINING.

YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE RESOURCES AT OUR FINGERTIPS TO THE EXTENT YOU NEED THEM.

I KNOW LADAYIJA SENT AN EMAIL WITH SOME POSSIBLE IF YOU NEED CREDITS.

THERE'S A ONE HOUR ZOOM COMING UP ON MAY 16TH.

THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT.

THAT'S BEING CONDUCTED BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

AND THERE'S ALSO A SAVE THE DATE FOR JUNE 24TH, WHICH IS A LIVE FOR OUR ETHICS TRAINING, WHICH WOULD ALSO SATISFY ALL FOUR HOURS BEING CONDUCTED BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

AND THEY USUALLY INVITE ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND WHATNOT.

AND YOU'LL BE INVITED, TOO.

WE SHOULD BE GETTING THAT INVITATION PRETTY SOON.

SO ANYWAY, JUST 24TH, I BELIEVE IT'S JUNE 24TH.

YES. THAT'S THE FOUR HOUR ONE.

THAT'S THE FOUR HOUR ONE THAT'S LIVE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE CONDUCTED AT CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

SO, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

THE ONE HOUR DOES US NO GOOD.

WELL, IT WOULD CHIP AWAY.

SO, IF YOU DID THE ONE HOUR THAT LADAYIJA SENT, THAT WOULD REDUCE YOUR REQUIREMENT TO THREE MORE HOURS.

SO DO A GOOD JOB AT CITY JACKS.

YEAH. YEAH, THEY DO, YEAH, THEY DO.

AND WE PARTNER UP ON THINGS.

AND SO. OKAY.

AND IF NONE OF THOSE WORK, THERE ARE OTHER RESOURCES AS WELL.

BUT ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER IT'S GETTING A LATE A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME FOR OTHER REASONS.

OTHER SOURCES. BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

LADAYIJA. ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER RING.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

BUT BEFORE I DO THE ETHICS TRAINING THAT WE WENT TO LAST YEAR IN JUNE SUFFICES FOR THIS YEAR'S FORM SIX.

SO, AND LADAYIJA ACTUALLY CALLED FLORIDA ETHICS COMMISSION.

RIGHT. AND GOT THAT RESPONSE FROM THEM DIRECTLY.

SO, WHEN JASON MENTIONS THE JUNE 24TH, THAT'S NEXT MONTH THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT HAD BEEN PASSED ON TO YOU THAT INFORMATION.

INTERESTING. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THANK YOU. SO, I WANTED TO ADDRESS MISS URBAN BUTTERSWORTH, WHO WAS WHO'S COME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUES ON WEST NINTH STREET.

AND THE ISSUE IS GRAVER THEN CLEANING OUT THE DRAINAGE DITCHES.

SO LAST YEAR, IN JUNE, SHE HAD SENT ME MULTIPLE VIDEOS, YOUTUBE CLIPS, AND I HAD FORWARDED IT TO SCOTT WILLIAMS AND OUR ACTING CITY MANAGER, JOE GARY GERRITY, WHO WAS JOHNNY ON THE SPOT, WENT OUT AND THEY HAND DUG OUT THOSE DITCHES.

THE ISSUE AND I'M GLAD THAT SCOTT'S HERE.

THAT PROCEEDS TO BE THE PROBLEM, AS MISS BUTTERSWORTH HAS MENTIONED.

NOT SO MUCH IS THAT IT'S BEEN IGNORED.

IT'S THAT COVER USING A BAND-AID TO COVER A MAJOR ISSUE.

SO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AS A CITYWIDE DOING THINGS LIKE THE DORE DRIVE PROJECT AND EVEN JOE GERRITY SAW IT LAST YEAR, AND HE BROUGHT STEVE TO WEST NINTH IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR.

SO, THE ISSUES THAT BUTTERSWORTH IS STILL SEEING ON NINTH STREET ARE CULMINATION OF PROBLEMS. ONE HIGH TIDE.

TWO THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY REGRADED.

THANK YOU. REGRADED.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE MAYOR IF.

IF SCOTT WILLIAMS WOULD BE ALLOWED TO COME UP AND KIND OF SHARE MORE INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION.

NOT SO MUCH ADDRESSING MISS BUTTERSWORTH BUT ADDRESSING THAT ISSUE.

AND LOOKING AT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AS A WHOLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

I KNOW HE IS.

LET ME, IF I MAY, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO ON THAT IS DIRECT CITY MANAGER TO MEET WITH MISS BUTTERSWORTH.

WELL, NO. FIRST OF ALL, MEET WITH MR. WILLIAMS AND THEN PRESENT BACK OPTIONS ON THAT, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL GET INTO A LONG DISSERTATION HERE, WHICH I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO PUT MR.

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AND I'LL ALSO COMMENT IN A MINUTE WHEN I SPEAK.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT WHEN SHE EMAILED IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, I REPLIED THAT SAME WEEK, AND SO DID OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WHO REPLIED WITH ACTION OF HIS CREW.

AND THEN THIS YEAR IN APRIL, APRIL 30TH.

AND THEN I RESPONDED RIGHT AWAY THAT TIME TAGGING BILL AND KEVIN NOW TO IT WITH SCOTT, WHO WENT OUT THERE TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT WHAT I WANTED THE COMMISSION TO NOTE HERE IS THAT IT'S NOT A FORM OF NEGLECT FROM SCOTT'S CREW, BUT THE ISSUE IS GRAVER THAN JUST DIGGING OUT DRAIN DITCHES, AND IT MAY NEED MORE THAN THE BAND-AID OR THE BAND-AIDS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING ON IT FOR THE PAST SIX, SEVEN YEARS.

AND I DO DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY.

SO, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH HOW BAD IT FLOODS.

AND MINIVANS DON'T REALLY GO OVER WATER VERY EASILY.

OKAY. AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY TO THE COMMISSION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER WATERS LOOKING FORWARD TO MEMORIAL DAY CELEBRATION.

THAT'S REALLY A SPECIAL TIME THAT I DON'T WANT TO MISS, EVER.

AND ALSO, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME FOOD AND BEVERAGES FOR THIS JOINT COMMISSION WORKSHOP NEXT MONDAY.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG ONE BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS.

COMMISSIONER BOLE. YEAH, JUST TWO THINGS.

AND FOR KEVIN MAYBE NEXT TIME WE GET AN UPDATE ON THE 16TH STREET, WALK OVER ON THAT.

AND THE ONE I DON'T WANT TO FALL OFF IS I KNOW THAT WE HAD THE WE MET WITH THE PEOPLE ABOUT WIDENING THE ROAD TO GET THE PUMP, THE TRUCK.

DID WE GET AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE LIKE THAT? BECAUSE I THINK THEY SPOKE TO THOSE RESIDENTS, AND I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL THAT WE FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THANKS. SEE YOU DANCING IN THE STREETS.

COMMISSIONER KELLY? MEMORIAL DAY. THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP.

THANK YOU. WHAT I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE IS MRS. BUTTERWORTH'S FRUSTRATION.

YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, IT MAY INVOLVE REDOING THE ROAD LIKE WE DID AT DONNER ROAD.

THAT'S THE BIG FIX.

IT, I WOULD IMAGINE, WOULD BE PART OF YOUR BUDGET DELIBERATIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE FORTHCOMING.

AND THANKS. THANKS FOR EVERYONE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I'M JUST GOING TO PIGGYBACK.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

THIS WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO BUDGET PREPARATION SEASON.

THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN.

IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A SINGULAR FIX.

IT SOUNDS LIKE WE REALLY, ACTUALLY NEED TO ANALYZE IT, ENGINEER IT, AND BUDGET.

AND SO, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE CITY MANAGER MR. KILLINGSWORTH, MEET WITH MR. WILLIAMS AND THEN COME BACK WITH AT LEAST ROUGH GUESSES ON WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO REMEDY THAT PROBLEM.

AND THEN WE CAN ADDRESS HOW WE POTENTIALLY BUDGET THAT IN FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND MISS BUTTERWORTH, I, I FEEL YOUR PAIN WHEN IT COMES TO FLOODING.

IT'S A SCARY THING.

WHATEVER TEMPORARY REMEDIES WE CAN DO, LIKE MAKING SURE THE DITCH IS CLEAN AND SO ON.

WE SHOULD BE LOOKING THAT AT THAT AS WELL UNTIL WE GET THE ACTUAL ENGINEERED CORRECTION TO THAT STREET.

BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO US.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

OKAY. HEARING NONE.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.