Jun 10, 2024 Commission Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WELCOME RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS.

BEFORE I OPEN THIS MEETING, WOULD YOU JOIN ME, PLEASE, FOR AN INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING.

HELP US TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION.

ALLOW US TO GROW CLOSER AS A GROUP AND NURTURE THE BONDS OF COMMUNITY.

FILL US WITH GRACE, LORD GOD, AS WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT OUR CITIZENS IN ATLANTIC BEACH AND CONTINUE TO REMIND US THAT ALL WE DO HERE TODAY, ALL THAT WE ACCOMPLISH, IS FOR THE PURSUIT OF TRUTH, FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF YOU AND FOR THE SERVICE OF OUR CITIZENS HERE IN THIS CITY.

WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN. AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I HEREBY CALL THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED MONDAY, JUNE 10TH, 2024 TO ORDER.

DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? OKAY WE'LL OPEN THIS MEETING WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NONE.

OKAY, THAT WAS EASY.

LET'S MOVE RIGHT TO OUR FAVORITE PORTION OF THE MEETING, THAT'S COURTESY OF FLORIDA VISITORS.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

OKAY. VERY GOOD, AND FOR THE NEW PEOPLE WALKING IN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THERE'S TIME TO SIGN IN.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TODAY IS THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY FILLED OUT THE CARD, GREAT.

AND IF NOT, FILL ONE OUT.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW FIVE MINUTES.

OFTENTIMES WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE SHORTEN IT TO THREE MINUTES.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO HOLD TO FIVE.

I'M PRETTY EASY GOING, BUT I WILL RAISE MY HAND.

WHEN YOU'RE AT FIVE, YOU'LL HEAR THE THE BUZZER, AND IF YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION OR YOU CAN'T HEAR OR WHATEVER, I'LL TAP THIS ONCE OR TWICE.

BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER.

WOODY WINFREY.

HI. THANK YOU.

LAST TIME I DID THIS, I THINK I HAD TO SAY WHERE I LIVED.

AND GUESS WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

NO YOUR NAME? BUT YOU CAN SAY YOUR NAME.

MY NAME IS WOODY WINFREY, AND I AM A MOST GRATEFUL RESIDENT OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY, ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA NUMBER 7A, ABOUT THE PARKING DEMARCATION AND PLANS FOR THE CITY. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, MY MY FIRST COMMENT IS TO JUST THAT THIS ALL THIS IS ABOUT THE PRESERVATION AND NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE LANDSCAPE IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

I SUPPORT SHARING OUR STREETS AND OUR PARKING, OF COURSE, WITH OUR VISITORS WHO, YOU KNOW, COME TO ENJOY WHAT WE ENJOY WITH SUCH EASE.

SO THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO SAY FOLLOWING THAT, IT IS THAT I AM REALLY OPPOSED TO THIS PLAN. I THINK THAT IT IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR A PROBLEM THAT I REALLY DON'T THINK EXISTS IN TERMS OF REALLY PAINTING OUR STREETS, AND I USED MY EXPERIENCE WITH VIEWING FIRST STREET IN ATLANTIC BEACH AND 10TH STREET THAT WERE PAINTED IN THE PAST YEAR. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I GUESS IT WAS AS YOU KNOW, JUST REALLY LIKE USING A, I DON'T KNOW, I HATE THE EXPRESSION, BUT A BAZOOKA TO HANDLE A MOUSE SIZED PROBLEM AND I, I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE TENDING OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ATLANTIC BEACH. I MEAN, KEEP IT IN JUST SUCH TIP TOP SHAPE WITH ATTENTION TO DETAIL, AND TO ME, THIS IS AN OVERKILL OF DETAIL.

I LIVE ON THIRD STREET BETWEEN EAST COAST AND SHERRY DRIVES, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE HEAVIEST PARKING STREETS IN THE WHOLE CITY, NOT ONLY OUR PROXIMITY TO TOWN CENTER, BUT AND THE BEACH, BUT ALSO WITH ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT THE BASE OF OUR STREET, WHICH WHERE WE HAVE TWICE A DAY, YOU KNOW, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, PARKERS COMING THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR.

SO, YOU KNOW, I OFFER THAT ALL UP TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LIVING ON THE FRONT CENTER OF IT.

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IS IT IRRITATING SOMETIMES.

IS IT? DRAW ME EXTRA CARE TO BACK OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY? ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THAT AGAIN GOES BACK TO MY FIRST STATEMENT THAT I THINK THAT THESE ARE FOR ME TO TO BACK OUT CAREFULLY IS, IS A SOMETHING I'M VERY WILLING AND HAPPY TO DO TO HAVE PEOPLE SHARE THE STREET, THE BEACH AND OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.

BUT EVEN LIKE ON MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIG BIGGEST BEACH DAYS OF THE YEAR, TWO, THERE WAS NOT ONE ILLEGAL CAR PARKING.

THERE WAS NOT ONE CAR PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

THERE WAS NOT ONE INCIDENT OF, YOU KNOW, INTERFERENCE, AND I WAS UP AND DOWN THAT STREET ALL DAY VISITING NEIGHBORS MYSELF.

AND I JUST REALLY THINK THAT THAT IS YOU KNOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE AND THAT I THINK THAT THE PAINTING RECOMMENDATION IS I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES SORT OF DIFFERENT WORDS TO USE, BUT JUST AGGRESSIVE.

THE NO PARKING PAINTED ON THE STREET.

THE SIGNS ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, OVER THREE FEET LONG, YOU KNOW, A YARD LONG AND ABOUT HALF A YARD HIGH AND IT JUST IT REALLY TAKES AWAY FROM THE ATTRACTIVENESS AND THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE. AND IN A WALKING COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY WOULD YOU NOT, YOU KNOW, SEE IT, I MEAN, YOU WOULD SEE IT AS A DRIVER, AS A LIVING THERE RESIDENT, NEVER, BUT BUT CERTAINLY THE WALKING AND ONE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT TICKETING WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM? I DON'T HEAR THAT HAPPENING.

AND I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, IF WE WERE EVEN KNOWN AS A CITY THAT TICKETED PEOPLE WHO PARK ILLEGALLY, THEN THAT WOULD SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE. AND IT WOULD IT WOULD ADDRESS THAT PROBLEM TOO.

SO MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

I THINK I'VE SAID MY POINTS.

I ALSO WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION THAT I DID SERVE ON THE PARKING COMMITTEE FOR TWO YEARS MYSELF.

AND WHEN THIS PAINTING ON 10TH AND FIRST DID OCCUR, I TOOK A PETITION ON OUR STREETS RIGHT AROUND AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE SIGNED THAT PETITION TO VOICE THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

THE PAINTING IS NOT SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR TO ADDRESS ANY PARKING, YOU KNOW, ISSUES IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND I COULDN'T PUT MY HAND ON THAT, BUT IT WAS DOZENS, MAYBE 50 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THAT PETITION.

SO IT'S IN PUBLIC RECORD SOMEWHERE.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MISS WINFREY.

KAREN WADE.

HI, I'M KAREN WADE.

I LIVE ON SECOND STREET BETWEEN SHERRY AND EAST COAST AS WELL, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS WITH THE ISSUE OF PARKING.

WE BUILT A HOUSE, IT'S ABOUT A YEAR AGO, LOVE LIVING IN ATLANTIC BEACH, BUT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, THERE IS ALONG THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY ARE RAILROAD TIES, AND WHEN PEOPLE PARK THERE, IT LEAVES VERY, VERY NARROW ROAD FOR US TO DRIVE UP AND DOWN.

PEOPLE LEAVE, THEY DON'T PARK, THEY RIGHT NEXT TO THE RAILROAD TIE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CAR.

SOME PEOPLE PARK, YOU KNOW, ONE WAY, SOME THE OTHER.

BUT I'VE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY.

I HIT A CAR ONE TIME, GETTING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THEY WERE SO FAR OVER, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO THE CENTER LINE.

ONE MORNING, I COULD NOT GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, PERIOD, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CARS PARKED ERRATICALLY, AND I'VE COMPLAINED BEFORE. AN OFFICER TOLD ME, WELL, JUST, YOU KNOW BACK OUT AND TURN ON YOUR, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR GRASS.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE PAY A LOT OF TAXES IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND THAT TO ME, THAT WASN'T THE RIGHT ANSWER AS WELL, THAT MORNING, I COULDN'T EVEN PULL OUT ON MY GRASS BECAUSE THERE WERE CARS THERE.

THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE PARKED WITHIN SEVEN FEET.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK WITHIN SEVEN FEET OF THE DRIVEWAY.

ALSO WITH WITH PARKING, IT IS SO NARROW THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES HAVE AND GARBAGE TRUCKS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET DOWN OUR STREET.

I'VE I'VE SEEN THEM BACKING UP AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, ASIDE FROM ME GETTING IRRITATED THAT I CANNOT GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, THE SAFETY ISSUE, I THINK IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT ISSUE.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WADE.

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HI MAYOR.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE HER 2:47, YOU CAN START IT OVER IF YOU WANT.

CAN I PRESENT SOMETHING TO THE CLERK, I GUESS, OR TO YOU? YES, YOU CAN. TO YOU OR TO THE CLERK? TO THE CLERK. OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO MY NAME IS DAN FRANKEL, 336 SECOND STREET.

I LISTEN TO ALL OF YOU, SUGGESTIONS? WHAT TO DO? PROBLEMS. I WON'T GO THIS WAY AND TALK TO WINNIE WHEREVER WINNIE IS.

BUT I THINK SHE'S ON THIRD STREET.

THERE IS A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM ON SECOND STREET.

THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE THERE IS PROBABLY BETWEEN I THINK 28 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION.

IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

WHAT KAREN HAD SUGGESTED IS THAT STREET IS ONLY 20FT WIDE, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT 25, IT'S NOT 30.

PEOPLE CANNOT GET THROUGH IT'S CAUSING A GREAT DEAL OF ANGST WITH US.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE ANGST THAT'S, TURNING INTO RIGHT NOW IS AGAIN, LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH LOVE PEOPLE WHO LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH.

BUT THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER IS PUSHING PEOPLE INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU FIXED, I BELIEVE DID A FIX ON FIRST STREET, BUT NOW FIRST FIXED FIRST STREET IS FIXED.

NOW SECOND STREET IS NOT FIXED.

SO PEOPLE GO THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY CAN'T PARK ON FIRST, THEY HEAD TO SECOND.

WHEN THEY HEAD TO SECOND, THERE AREN'T SPOTS AVAILABLE.

ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCES, WHICH I DO HAVE AND ALL OF YOU KNOW WHAT THE ORDINANCES ARE, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO QUOTE THEM AS FAR AS WHAT'S CONCERNED, BUT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SEVEN FEET FROM A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 20FT FROM INTERSECTION.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 15FT FROM A FIRE HYDRANT.

THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING ON SECOND STREET, THEY'RE NOT OUR RESIDENTS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE OUR RESIDENTS AREN'T THE PROBLEM HERE.

IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY THE TOWN CENTER.

IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENJOY THE BEACH.

I'M ALL FOR IT, BUT JUST WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME KIND OF ARRANGEMENT FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE ON SECOND STREET.

WHAT YOU DID A YEAR AGO ON FIRST STREET.

I'VE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS ON FIRST STREET.

IT SEEMS TO HAVE WORKED SOMEWHAT.

I WOULD APPLAUD IT.

I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT NO PARKING, MAYBE PLASTERED, BUT THERE ARE SIGNS THAT CAN BE PUT AS FAR AS NO PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET.

WE HAVE ORDINANCES AND ONE OF THE ORDINANCES 21/18 I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS IN THE AUDIENCE OR NOT, BUT IT SAYS NO PERSON SHALL STOP, STAND OR PARK A MOTOR VEHICLE ON A RIGHT OF WAY IN A MANNER THAT LEAVES LESS THAN TEN FEET OF ROADWAY WIDTH, THE ROADS ONLY 20FT.

AS KAREN WADE SAID, IF THEY PARKED ON A RAILROAD TIES, WELL, THEY CAN'T GET OUT.

SO IT'S NOT RIGHT UP AGAINST THE RAILROAD TIES.

IT'S ANOTHER 2 OR 3FT INTO THE STREET.

SO NOW THAT 20FT BECOMES TEN FEET, BECOMES SEVEN FEET, AND CARS AND TRUCKS, IT'S IT'S DIFFICULT TO BE IMPASSABLE.

I BELIEVE LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCES, OKAY, IS THAT WE DO HAVE LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS.

AND IT DOES SAY THE CHIEF OF POLICE SHALL HAVE EXCLUSIVE CONTROL AND SHALL PUT IN PLACE A MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THESE LAWS OR ORDINANCES.

I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GIVE TICKETS.

I DON'T WANT TO GET A TICKET.

I DON'T WANT TO EVEN GIVE SOMEONE ELSE A TICKET.

BUT SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO IMPROVE WHAT'S GOING ON.

IT IS GOING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS ON SECOND STREET.

THIRD STREET, I BELIEVE, HAS SIDEWALKS.

FIRST STREET, I BELIEVE, HAS SIDEWALKS.

MAYOR YOU GREW UP ON OR, EXCUSE ME, YOU LIVED ON SECOND STREET FOR A TIME.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.

ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW IS I WENT TO.

I LISTENED TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

I WENT TO THE STOP MEETING.

THE PEOPLE WERE GREAT. AS COMMISSIONERS, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU, I GUESS, SOME THOUGHTS OR SOME IDEAS OR SOMETHING BEFORE YOU THINK OF THAT OR NOODLE OVER IT OR WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCES RIGHT NOW? WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING NOW? WHY DON'T WE DO SOMETHING TO AT LEAST LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO CONTROL SOME OF THE SITUATION? IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE A TICKET, GIVE A PRETEND TICKET.

I DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENCES KNOW, THE RESIDENCES CARE.

THE RESIDENTS ARE WATCHING WHERE THEY'RE PARKING.

THE PROBLEM IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING IN.

AND I DON'T MEAN FROM OUT OF TOWN.

THEY'RE PUSHING THEMSELVES FROM THE TOWN CENTER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I TELL YOU, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ON MY CONSCIENCE AND I, SO YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ON YOUR CONSCIENCE IF SOMEONE EVER GOT HURT, IF SOMEONE EVER GOT, YOU KNOW, HIT BY A CAR, IF IF EVEN AN EVEN AN ANIMAL, IT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO.

SO I JUST APPLAUD YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT THE STOP COMMITTEE IS GIVING TO YOU TONIGHT.

MAYBE LOOK AT IT, MAYBE MASSAGE IT.

MAYBE. BUT ALSO, WE'RE ASKING YOU ON SECOND STREET.

WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

AND ALL OVER, I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT WE REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM ON SECOND STREET.

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AT LEAST LOOK AT SECOND STREET.

COME WALK SECOND STREET.

WE'LL WALK WITH YOU, WE'LL SHOW YOU.

IT CAN BE FIXED JUST WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU, MR. FRANKEL.

SHELLY CRIST.

OH, HI. I'M SHELLY, I'M HERE WITH MY HUSBAND JEEP.

WE'RE NEW RESIDENCES.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.

I'M ALSO WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.

WE HAVE EVERY NEIGHBOR, THIS PROBLEM AFFECTS OUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO WE'RE ALL HERE TO EXPLAIN REALLY WHAT OUR PROBLEM IS. SO I KNOW YOU MAY BE AWARE OF WHAT THE ISSUE IS ON OAK CIRCLE AND 19TH STREET, BUT I WANT YOU TO SEE HOW BAD THE FLOODING REALLY IS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES HERE, DO YOU ALL HAVE THE PICTURES NOW? I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS JUST ONE SHEET.

OH, NO. THERE'S ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE.

OKAY. AS YOU KNOW OAK CIRCLE, THERE'S A DRAINAGE DITCH AT THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC.

THIS AREA HAS BEEN FLOODING FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND 30 YEARS.

YEP, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME REMEDIES.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE PICTURES, WHATEVER EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE, WE STILL NEED TO WORK ON THIS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP PICTURE, THE TOP LEFT PICTURE, THIS PICTURE SHOWS THIS WAS SEVERAL HOURS AFTER THE RAIN HAS STOPPED, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE FLOODING, THE WATER JUST POOLS THERE AND IT DOES NOT DRAIN.

IF YOU LOOK IN THE MIDDLE PICTURE, THE MIDDLE TWO PICTURES, THOSE DEPICT HOW MUCH SEDIMENT RUNS OFF AND GETS IN.

THIS SEDIMENT COVERS UP THE SIGNAGE ON THE ROAD.

YOU CANNOT SEE WHERE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP CREATING A SAFETY ISSUE.

THAT'S WHAT THE TIRE MARKS ARE.

THAT'S THE MARK, THE MARKS ON THE ROAD.

THAT'S THE STOP SIGN.

SO BASICALLY, WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? I THINK THERE'S TWO THINGS.

TWO THINGS HAPPENING.

IF YOU LOOK AGAIN AT THE FIRST PICTURE IN THE TOP, THE ROAD RISES JUST SLIGHTLY RIGHT THERE AND IT STOPS THE WATER FROM FLOWING INTO THE DRAIN. THE DRAIN IS ON THE FAR LEFT.

IT STOPS THE WATER FROM FLOWING SO IT POOLS RIGHT THERE, AND, THAT IS REALLY THE MAIN ISSUE, BUT I THINK IT'S AN EASY FIX. THERE ARE SOME SIMPLE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TO FIX THIS, TO CREATE THE WATER FLOWING.

AND REALLY, I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF 19TH AND OAK STREET, SO I SEE THE WATER COMING DOWN 19TH STREET.

IT TURNS THE CORNER JUST LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

IT'S WORKING HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO UNTIL IT GETS RIGHT HERE AND IT GETS STOPPED RIGHT ON THAT LITTLE RISE.

SO IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN SAND IT DOWN, CREATE A LITTLE DITCH THAT IT CAN GO THROUGH AND KEEP THE WATER FLOWING, ITS GOING TO FLOW AND WORK THE WAY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE ACTUAL DRAINAGE AREA IS OVERFLOWN WITH OVERGROWN WITH VEGETATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF SOOT AND IT GETS BOGGED DOWN AND IT CAN'T FLOW.

SO ONCE THE WATER ACTUALLY GETS THERE, IT IS VERY SLOW TO DRAIN.

SO I THINK IF WE COULD CLEAN THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT, WHATEVER YOU DO, DREDGE IT, PULL THE WEEDS.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT THOSE ARE TWO REMEDIES I THINK WOULD HELP THIS FLOW, AND I THINK THE FOUNDATION IS THERE.

WE JUST NEED TO KIND OF FINESSE IT A LITTLE BIT, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP.

WE'RE ALL HERE.

THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR US.

IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, CARS GO THE WRONG WAY ON A ONE WAY STREET WHEN IT'S FLOODED.

THERE'S KIDS, SMALL KIDS IN THE AREA, AND WE REALLY THIS IS AFFECTING ALL OF US, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HEAR US, AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP US TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM.

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THANK YOU, MISS CRIST.

YES. NO.

THANK YOU. NO. NATHAN ANDY LEE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I AM ANDY LEE.

I AM ON THE 1908 OAK CIRCLE.

I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON SHELLEY'S COMMENTS THERE.

WE PURCHASED OUR HOME THERE.

WE LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT WHERE WE LIVE HERE.

WE PURCHASED IN MAY OF 2021.

THERE WAS SOMEWHAT OF A DRAINAGE ISSUE AT THAT TIME.

I KNOW ONE OF OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS HAS BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, AND HE'S DEALT WITH IT AT THAT LEVEL FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES AT LEAST.

I THINK HE SAID 30 YEARS IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.

I HAVE DOCUMENTED WHEN THE TOPPING WAS DONE SHORTLY AFTER WE PURCHASED WAS ABOUT MARCH OF 2022.

THEY CAME IN AND RE-TOPPED OAK CIRCLE.

THAT IS WHEN THE THE FLOODING BECAME MUCH WORSE.

THE, IT, THERE IS A HUMP RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR DRIVEWAY THAT BASICALLY CREATES A DAM LIKE SHELLEY WAS MENTIONING, AND IT FLOODS.

WE HAVE A NICE BIG POOL RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR DRIVEWAY.

WE CAN HAVE UP TO TEN INCHES OF WATER IN THE STREET AT THE END OF OUR DRIVEWAY, AND IT DOES NOT DRAIN FOR TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE DAYS.

IT'LL STAND THERE STAGNANT UNTIL IT BASICALLY EVAPORATES OR THE LAND AROUND ABSORBS IT.

MY WIFE HAS WANTED ME TO MENTION THAT OUR MAILBOX IS RIGHT THERE, AND THERE CAN BE SEVERAL DAYS THAT WE DON'T GET OUR MAIL JUST BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING, OR WE HAVE TO GET GALOSHES ON OR OR WADE OUT TO THE MAILBOX.

I THINK, LIKE SHELLEY SAID, THERE ARE SOME FAIRLY SIMPLE, INEXPENSIVE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO AT LEAST GET IT BACK TO THE PRE TOPPING FLOODING, WHICH WAS BAD, BUT IT WAS 4 TO 6IN RATHER THAN TEN OR SO INCHES OF FLOODING AT THE END OF OUR STREET.

AT THAT TIME I DID EMAIL SCOTT WILLIAMS THE CITY PLANNER, I BELIEVE IS HIS TITLE.

HE WAS VERY AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND SAID THAT HE KNEW IT EXISTED, THAT THE PICTURES THAT I SENT HIM WITH THE EMAIL, HE SAID HE WAS SURPRISED AT THAT AMOUNT OF FLOODING.

THEY DID COME OUT, AND THEY PULLED THE WEEDS AND TRIED TO CLEAN OUT THE SWALE BEYOND WHERE IT'S FLOODING, AND THAT IT HELPED THAT PORTION OF IT, BUT IT JUST DID NOT HELP GET THE WATER PAST THAT HUMP THAT WAS CREATED WHEN THEY RE- TOPPED THE THE WHOLE STREET.

WE DID HAVE SOME COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH.

HE DID SEND SOME FOLKS OUT TO LOOK AT IT, AND THEY BASICALLY TOLD ME THAT I NEEDED TO CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO GET THIS FIXED, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BANDED TOGETHER TO, TO TRY TO GET A RESOLUTION TO THIS.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I'VE GOT TO SAY, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. LEE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

SO WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN LATE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, COURTESY OF THE FLOOR? [INAUDIBLE] GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

NOT INTENDED TO SPEAK, BUT SEEMS TO ME, LISTENING TO MY NEIGHBORS THAT THEY'RE ADDRESSING WHAT WAS UNDER AGENDA ITEM FOR PARKING.

BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE PARKING PROBLEM BECAUSE IT INVOLVES STORM RUNOFF.

IT INCLUDES MAINTENANCE OF THE OF THE MEDIANS THAT ARE IN BETWEEN PROPER VEGETATION AND THOSE MEDIANS.

BUT ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE RUNOFF PROPER PLANTS AND MAKING SURE CONTRACTORS DON'T BLOW THEIR DEBRIS INTO THE ROAD.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS. SO THE STREET ISSUE IS PARKING IS IS AN ISSUE.

BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO HOW WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

WE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BY MANAGING OUR MEETINGS WITH PROPER LANDSCAPE, MAYBE EVEN SOME SOME STORMWATER MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES.

THAT'S THE WAY TO DO THIS.

AND THE STOCK COMMITTEE DID A GREAT JOB.

BUT IT'S MOSTLY ABOUT PARKING.

BUT YOU CANNOT DO ONE SOLVE ONE PROBLEM WITHOUT CREATING OTHER PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

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THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CONGESTION IN OLD TOWN, BUT.

CONTRACTORS PARKED THEIR VEHICLES AND THEIR WIDE AND WITH THE TRAILERS BEHIND.

SO A LOT OF TIMES.

SO DRIVERS HAVE TO GO INTO THE MEDIAN TO GET AROUND THEM.

SO WE ARE DESTROYING THE MEDIANS, WHICH IS ERODING THE ROAD, WHICH IS CAUSING MORE RUNOFF.

SO THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.

AND I KNOW WHEN I HAVE FRIENDS OVER OR TWO OF THEM THAT COME BY MY HOUSE.

YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

SO? SO WHEN THEY COME TO MY HOUSE, WE ARRANGE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO FIND PARKING FOR EVERYBODY.

IT CAN BE DONE.

AND SO WHEN CONTRACTORS COME BY, WE PARK IN EACH OTHER'S DRIVEWAYS.

SO WHEN CONTRACTORS COME AND THEY DO THE PLUMBING OR LANDSCAPING OR WHATEVER THEY DO, THEY PARK IN THE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO A VERY LONG DRIVEWAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T GET SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

WHEN YOU COME TO LONG BEACH AND YOU PARK IN THESE AREAS, USE THE DRIVEWAY AND IT'S RESIDENTS OBLIGATION TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

YOU CAN'T PASS A LAW SAYING YOU MUST PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION AND CONSIDERATION.

GETTING SOME OF THESE VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD WILL IMPROVE OUR MEDIANS AND ESSENTIALLY SOLVE A LOT OF PARKING PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN THE SOUTH MARINA AREA. THANKS.

THANK YOU, MR. GABRYNOWICZ.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? YES. YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

I WAS ACTUALLY NOT PLANNING TO SAY ANYTHING THIS EVENING EITHER, EXCEPT AFTER LISTENING TO.

ARE YOU GOING TO. OH, I'M SORRY, JACKIE BECKHAM, 2210 OCEAN WALK DRIVE WEST.

THANK YOU. JACKIE, I KNOW YOU, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE.

SORRY, JUST ASSUMED EVERYBODY KNEW ME.

NO I JUST FEEL LIKE AFTER LISTENING TO BOTH THE PARKING ISSUES AND THE FLOODING ISSUES, THAT IT IS MORE OF A KIND OF GLOBAL ISSUE FOR THE CITY.

AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING SOME OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE GOING IN THAT APPEAR TO BE COVERING WAY MORE THAN 50% OF THE LOTS THAT THEY'RE ON, THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT IMPERVIOUS SPACE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY FOR WATER TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO.

MAYBE WE NEED TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF HOMES THAT WE'RE BUILDING HERE AND MAKE THAT PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT AS A COMMISSION.

AND ADDITIONALLY, THE PARKING ISSUE, I FEEL LIKE THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED GLOBALLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME TO ATLANTIC BEACH, AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO EITHER HAVE PUBLIC PARKING IN THE KMART PARKING LOT WITH TRANSPORTATION TO GET OVER INTO THE CITY AREA.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME BIGGER PLAN THAN PUSHING THE CARS FROM FIRST STREET TO SECOND TO THIRD TO ALL THE WAY OUT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT THIS EVENING THAT I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SPACE AND DRAINAGE, AND ALL OF THAT REALLY DOES NEED TO BE LOOKED AT SERIOUSLY.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO TRY TO FIX THIS.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MISS BECKENBACH.

ANY OTHERS.

OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR, AND WE'LL MOVE TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS MR.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

EXCUSE ME BEFORE YOU START FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SPOKE AND I DIDN'T EXPLAIN UP FRONT.

SO I DO WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

WE LISTEN, BUT WE TYPICALLY DON'T RESPOND TO REQUESTS AT THIS TIME.

YOU MIGHT HEAR SOME COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS LATER IN THE MEETING AND WILL CERTAINLY ADDRESS THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY.

SO OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING ONE ON ONE.

SO THANK YOU.

BACK TO YOU. AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COMMISSION.

AGENDA ITEM THREE A IS THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

SO I THINK THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THERE ARE THE JUNE 17TH JOINT WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD ABOUT STORM WATER.

ALSO, WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION LUNCHEON SCHEDULED JUNE 26TH FROM 11 TO 1 AT THE GAYLE BAKER COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND I WILL ALLOW STAFF TO CLOSE CITY HALL FOR TWO HOURS SO EVERYBODY CAN ATTEND THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING ON JULY 27TH, AND IT WAS THE LOCATION HAS BEEN CHANGED.

THE LOCATION IS NOW GOING TO BE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS SO THAT WE CAN FILM IT.

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SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE AND TWO FILMED.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH IT.

SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

YEP. THERE YOU HAVE IT.

OTHER REPORT ITEMS. YES. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO INVITE BRIAN TO COME UP, AND HE'S GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BEFORE YOU VERY SHORTLY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

SO WHICH WILL TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO GET TO YOU.

THANK YOU BILL. GOOD EVENING, BRIAN BURDELL WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT I CAN'T SEEM TO OPEN FROM HERE.

OH, IT MIGHT BE ON.

BUT I THINK.

YOU CAN CLICK.

I CAN'T CLICK FROM FROM UP HERE.

OKAY. YOU WANT TO START AT THE FIRST ONE RIGHT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES.

SO GOOD EVENING.

GOING TO GO OVER THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.[INAUDIBLE] SURE.

SO. THANKS, KEVIN.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO GUIDE FUTURE ACTIONS AND DECISION MAKING, PRESENT LONG RANGE GOALS, AND SERVE AS THE FOUNDATION FOR OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE STATE.

WE ADOPTED OUR FIRST 1 IN 1981 AND WERE REQUIRED TO UPDATE IT AT LEAST ONCE EVERY SEVEN YEARS.

OKAY. AND IN THIS SEVEN YEAR UPDATE, CITIES EVALUATE THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO IDENTIFY ANY NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET, UPDATE NUMBERS AND OTHER CHANGES AS DEEMED NECESSARY.

AND THEN THEY NOTIFY THE STATE THAT, YES, CHANGES ARE NECESSARY AND THEN THEY SEND THOSE CHANGES TO THE STATE.

SO THAT'S THE UPDATE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, AND WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC MEETINGS.

IN OUR LAST MEETING ON MAY 21ST, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD FORMALLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND SO THAT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FIRST SECTION IS THE TITLE AND INTRODUCTION.

THIS IS JUST INFORMATIONAL, DISCUSSES THE BACKGROUND OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS AND HISTORY, AND THEN CONTAINS THE DEMOGRAPHIC ASSESSMENT AND ECOSYSTEM ANALYSIS FROM OUR LEAD FOR CITIES CERTIFICATION.

AND THE FIRST ELEMENT OF THE PLAN IS THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.

SO WITHIN THIS ELEMENT, WE'RE PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE WETLAND BUFFER LANGUAGE AND REFER TO THE ZONING CODE WHERE IT ALREADY EXISTS.

SAME LANGUAGE THAT WAY.

IT'S ONLY IN ONE PLACE.

IF WE WANT TO MAKE CHANGES, WE DON'T HAVE TO UPDATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL.

AT MARSH PROTECTION LANGUAGE BASED ON PUBLIC FEEDBACK AND APPLY MEDIUM DENSITY FOR THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE TOWN CENTER AREA.

SO CURRENTLY OUR ZONING CODE ALLOWS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AS A USE BY EXCEPTION IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT AND THEN REFERS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR DENSITY.

HOWEVER, THERE'S NO DENSITY CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THAT IN MEDIUM WAS CHOSEN AS THAT'S THE WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND OUR TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD MINIMUM LEVEL OF TRAFFIC STRESS TARGETS, WHICH IS BASED ON NEW FDOT GUIDANCE.

AND THEN ALSO TO ADD A COMPLETE STREETS SECTION, WHICH COPIES THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY THAT THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

THIS WOULD JUST BE PLACING IT WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE ELEMENT IS JUST UPDATING TO MEET NUMBERS AND ADDING SOME LANGUAGE TO MEET STATE REQUIREMENTS AND THE CONSERVATION AND COASTAL MANAGEMENT ELEMENT.

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AND THE RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT, MAKING A COUPLE SMALL CHANGES BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD RECOMMENDATION.

THE FIRST IS LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR BASEBALL, SOFTBALL FIELDS, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN THE 1980S.

AND IT SAYS ONE FIELD PER 2500 RESIDENTS.

WE DO NOT MEET THAT.

WE HAVEN'T MET THAT SINCE THE 1980S.

SO WE'RE JUST UPDATING THAT SO THAT THE CITY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND THEN ALSO TO..

YES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION HERE? SO IF WE'RE GOING TO LOWER TO OUR CAPABILITIES, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO EXPAND FACILITIES IN THOSE PARKS.

YEAH. WE LITERALLY DON'T HAVE THE SPACE.

IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. YOU STILL COULD EXPAND THIS JUST TAKES US MAKES US COMPLIANT WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE'RE THE COMP PLAN ESTABLISHES A MINIMUM THAT THE CITY HAS TO MEET.

IT DOESN'T SET A MAXIMUM.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, REVISED POLICY E.1.2.6, JUST TO REMOVE SOME LANGUAGE THAT DESIGNATES ALL PARKS BESIDES TIDE VIEWS, DUTTON ISLANDS, DUTTON ISLAND, AND RIVER BRANCH PRESERVES AS ACTIVE PARKS, WHICH ACTIVE PARKS CONTAIN BASEBALL FIELDS, PLAYGROUNDS, AND SIMILAR FACILITIES.

SO THAT WAS A CONTRADICTION WITH OUR OTHER POLICIES AND OTHER PASSIVE PARKS SUCH AS HOWELL AND SELVA PRESERVE.

YEAH. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT JORDAN, [INAUDIBLE] YEAH, YEAH.

SO THAT THAT WAS CONTRADICTORY TO.

OUR OTHER PLANS AND DESIGNATIONS.

SO SLIGHT CHANGE TO THAT TO GET RID OF THAT LANGUAGE.

AND NO SIGNIFICANT UPDATES TO THE HOUSING OR THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENTS AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENTS. WE ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY, WHICH WAS WE WERE EXEMPTED BY THE STATE IN 28, 2008, AND THEN IT WAS REMOVED FROM STATUTES.

AND AND IT WAS REMOVED FROM OUR CODE, BUT IT WAS NEVER REMOVED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE'RE DO YOU MIND, FOR THE SAKE OF ALL THAT ARE LISTENING OR HERE DEFINING AND EXPLAINING CONCURRENCY IN THIS EXAMPLE.

THE TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY IS YOU HAVE YOUR LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT EACH ROAD HAS TO MEET BASED ON CAPACITY OF THE ROADWAY AND DAILY TRAFFIC AND THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROADWAY.

AND IT'S REALLY MEANT FOR GROWING AND EXPANDING CITIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ROADWAYS THAT CAN HANDLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

SO. BUILT OUT CITIES SUCH AS ATLANTIC BEACH WERE EXEMPTED BY THE STATE, WASN'T REALLY MEANT FOR THEM.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THAT COMES FROM.

IT HAS TO DEAL WITH SO YOUR ROADWAYS CAN HANDLE TRAFFIC LEVELS.

THANK YOU. AND NO CHANGES TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENT.

YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY IN THERE? YEAH. THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ELEMENT IS A COPY OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, SO.

AND LASTLY, THIS IS A NEW REQUIREMENT BY THE STATE THAT ALL CITIES ADD A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.

SO STATE STATUTE SAYS IT HAS A LIST OF FOUR THINGS IN THERE THAT.

FOLLOWING RIGHT SHALL BE CONSIDERED IN LOCAL DECISION MAKING.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO MATCH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE'S LANGUAGE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OUT THERE THAT BASICALLY ARE THE SAME THING.

THE STATE STATUTES PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PROPOSING WHAT THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE STATE.

AND IT'S, IT LAYS OUT WHAT THE WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS, PRETTY MUCH.

SO THE NEXT STEPS, THIS WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU GUYS AT YOUR NEXT MEETING FOR THE FIRST READ.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'LL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS.

AND THE STATE FOR THEIR COMMENTS WILL INCORPORATE ANY COMMENTS INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR FINAL APPROVAL. LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

HOW LONG DO YOU EXPECT THAT PROCESS TO TAKE?

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WE ADVERTISE IT FOR, I THINK OCTOBER.

SO PLANNING TO BRING THE HOT ISSUE? YEAH, YEAH.

SO IT'LL BE A FEW MONTHS.

BRIAN. FORGIVE ME. WHAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE UPDATED THE COMP PLAN? IT 2019.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ON THE SEVEN YEAR SCHEDULE OR SIX IN THIS CASE, MAYBE.

YEAH, OUR DEADLINE WAS 2017.

YEAH. AND IT TOOK A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET IT ADOPTED.

SO THEY GO FROM THAT DEADLINE.

SO OUR DEADLINE WAS ACTUALLY MARCH OF THIS YEAR OKAY.

BUT SINCE WE'RE WORKING ON IT THEY GIVE US EXTRA TIME OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES BRIAN I JUST HAVE A REQUEST.

CAN YOU SEND US THAT POWERPOINT YOU JUST SHARED? YES. THANK YOU.

RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH, YOU HAVE A NEW ITEM.

THREE C BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

I DO, I JUST I WANTED TO GET THE TENOR OF THE COMMISSION IN TERMS OF, FROM A PLANNING STANDPOINT.

RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M PLANNING IS DOING THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS AT STARTING THEM AT AT 530 ON A COMMISSION MEETING AND DOING ONE HOUR, BUT MAYBE ONLY DOING ONE DEPARTMENT AND DOING YOU KNOW, TWO IN JULY, TWO IN AUGUST AND THEN BEING DONE WITH IT.

IF WE NEED, WE SCHEDULE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP ON A, ON A DIFFERENT DAY.

BUT I WANTED TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT JELLED WITH THE COMMISSION TO DO IT THAT WAY IN THE PAST.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU'VE DONE THREE SPECIAL WORKSHOPS THAT WERE, I THINK ONE OF THEM WAS UP TO THREE HOURS LONG.

THAT'S A LOT TO DIGEST AT ONE TIME.

MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DO A LOT OF SMALLER ONES, BUT I'LL YIELD TO THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. I'D RATHER GET IT ALL DONE IN ONE NIGHT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

ONE HOUR PER TOPIC, THAT'S FINE.

I'D RATHER HAVE FOUR MEETINGS, THEN AN ADDITIONAL THREE MEETINGS OR FOUR MEETINGS WAS FINE WITH ME.

COMMISSIONER. YOU'RE GOOD.

OKAY, THAT WORKS FOR ME, I JUST.

ARE WE STARTING IN JULY AND THEN GOING THROUGH ALL THE WAY TILL SEPTEMBER? WELL, WE'LL START IN JULY AND HOPEFULLY END IN AUGUST, WHICH WILL GIVE US TWO MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER TO WRAP IT UP.

OKAY. PERFECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO START AT FIVE A 5 P.M., 5:30.

5:30. OKAY. 5:30.

I GET IT ON THE NEXT 90 DAY CALENDAR.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOUR REPORTS ARE CONCLUDED.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. WE'LL MOVE TO REPORTS AND REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND WISHING YOU MANY, MANY MORE IN THE FUTURE.

NO, NOT TOO MANY MORE.

OKAY. AND WITH THAT..

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.. MOVE TO MISTER BOLE.

YES, SIR. A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

I'M SURE THAT WE LIKE TO SEE THE CITY ENGINEER NEXT MONDAY TO TALK ABOUT OAK [INAUDIBLE] BE THERE.

YEAH, OKAY.

BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HIS PROFESSIONAL OPINION AS FAR AS THE FIXES.

YEAH. ON THAT ONE FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TO YOU DON'T NEED AN ANSWER TONIGHT, BUT THE SCHOOL ISSUE AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND LEGAL ARGUMENTS CONTAINED, MAYBE WE COULD GET AN UPDATE. I'VE HEARD THINGS FROM VARIOUS LAWYERS, RESIDENTS, ETC., ETC..

I'D LIKE YOUR OPINION ON ON WHERE WE STAND LEGALLY WITH THE ABL METRIC.

SURE. AND I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, MAYBE WE CAN TALK OFFLINE BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING AND GET SOME OF THAT INPUT, AND THEN I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

SURE. GREAT.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. COMMISSIONER RING.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH, JUST THAT I TOOK MY YOUNGEST TO THE SPLASH PAD AND SHE LOVED IT.

AND SO HAVE ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE YET, TAKE YOUR YOUNG'UN TO THE SPLASH PAD ON DONNER PARK.

AND THANKS SO MUCH TO ALL OF THE STAFF THAT WERE INVOLVED IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER WATERS.

BEFORE MR. ARTHUR COMES UP, HEARING THE RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT PARKING AND SAFETY AND THAT I FEEL THE NEED.

I DIDN'T PLAN ON THIS, BUT I FEEL THE NEED TO GO BACKWARD A LITTLE BIT.

WHEN THE PARKING COMMITTEE THAT WAS STARTED BEFORE 2020 WAS IN FORCE, IT WAS EITHER HIT SUNSET OR IT COULD NOT BE APPRECIATED.

THE PROBLEM THAT PARKING WAS GOING TO BE IN IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

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IT WAS QUALITY OF LIFE.

IT WAS SAFETY.

AND BECAUSE I LIVE ON 18TH STREET, IT WASN'T LIKE THIRD STREET.

IT'S GOT 65% OF ALL THE PARKING IN ATLANTIC BEACH ON THAT ONE STREET, AND IF YOU GET TIRED OF CALLING THE POLICE ONCE A MONTH, WE WERE CALLING IT WEEKLY, OF WEEKLY. AND SO WHEN I RAN, I RAN ON THESE THINGS.

AND THE ONE THING THAT HAS MADE THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE, AT LEAST IN MY AREA OF, IN MY DISTRICT IN 18TH AND 19TH STREET, IS PAID PARKING.

OKAY? IT WASN'T IT WASN'T CAMERAS.

IT WASN'T SIGNS. THERE WERE CAMERAS.

IT WAS THE PAID PARKING.

A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

THE PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS YOU'LL FIND PEOPLE ALL OVER AB THAT HAVE ZERO PROBLEM LIVING ON THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH, SIXTH, SEVENTH STREET.

THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM.

THEY DON'T. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE PARKING IN THEIR STREETS AND GOING TO THE BEACH.

YES, THE THE EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN BE A PROBLEM AND GARBAGE CANS CAN BE A GARBAGE TRUCK BE A PROBLEM.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT, LIKE SOME PEOPLE.

I WAS AT THE FARMERS MARKET THIS WEEKEND.

THERE WAS 20 CARS ON PLAZA.

THERE WAS 15 MORE ON SELVA LAKES PARK.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IS IT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THE FARMERS MARKET BECAUSE THIS TOWN HAS BEEN FOUND OUT YEARS AGO, BUT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND ALL OVER JACKSONVILLE AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME.

ONE OPTION WAS THAT MENTIONED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS.

HANNAH PARK HAS 1500 SPOTS.

THEY'VE GOT LIFEGUARDS.

THEY'VE GOT GRILLS. THEY'VE GOT PICNIC BENCHES, BATHROOMS. WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO MIGRATE.

AND THE SECOND STREET ISSUE, IT CAME UPON A PROBLEM WHENEVER WE, IN TRYING TO NOT BE TOO AGAINST BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND TAKE ME TOO MANY SPOTS.

ON FIRST STREET WE LINKED FIRST STREET AND TOWN CENTER AND SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM, WE'LL TAKE AWAY SOME SPOTS AND OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO PERMEATE TO SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH.

BUT BEACH RENOURISHMENT IS AN ISSUE.

IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF AN ISSUE FOR US.

IT IS FOR JAX BEACH AND NEPTUNE BEACH.

ATLANTIC BEACH HAS TONS OF PARKING FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

WE DON'T PAY A THING FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT THAT WAS PROVEN A FEW WEEKS AGO IN THE MEETING WITH JAX AND NEPTUNE.

WE PAID NOTHING FOR BEACH RENOURISHMENT AND THAT HAS THE COST SHARING AGREEMENT HAS BEEN.

IT'S NOT BEEN IT'S NOT BEEN UNDERSTOOD.

SO YES, THIS IS A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR RICHARD ARTHUR AND HIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE THAT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF PEOPLE ALL OVER AB FROM EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT.

AND IT IS HARD WHEN YOU JUST BRING UP SAFETY AND TRAFFIC AND PARKING.

IT'S AMAZING THEY GET ANYTHING DONE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A VOLUME OF STUFF TO CONSIDER, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SO DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, THE ONLY I I'VE GOTTEN THREE MAILS ABOUT PARKING THE STREETS, ONLY PARKING OF THE STREET I'VE SEEN WHEN IT SAYS NO PARKING IS ON IS ON 10TH AND OCEAN.

WHEN CHIEF GUALILLO AND SCOTT WILLIAMS PAINTED SOME PARKING SPOTS.

SAYS NO PARKING.

WELL, THAT THAT WASN'T RAN BY THE COMMISSION.

THAT WAS JUST DONE.

OKAY. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PARKING, PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE WELL DEMARCATED, BUT NOT ON EVERY STREET.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE UP TO THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE SOME RESIDENTS, LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T CARE.

BUT IF THERE'S AN ISSUE OF PARKING, THEY COME TO US, GO, HEY, SCOTT, COMMIT POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WANT SOME MARKED SPOTS HERE.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LOT.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO TALK ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, BUT I HAD TO GO BACKWARD.

AND NOW MR. ARTHUR AT HIS TURN IS GOING TO GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER BIRTHDAY GIRL.

MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY BIRTHDAY IS THE CELEBRATION OF VETERAN WOMEN'S VETERANS DAY.

AND THE COMMEMORATES THE SIGNING OF THE WOMEN'S ARMED SERVICES INTEGRATION ACT BY HARRY TRUMAN ON JUNE 12TH, 1948, WHEN WOMEN WERE FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED AS ESSENTIAL TO THE WAR EFFORTS AND ALLOWED TO SERVE IN THE REGULAR ARMED FORCES WOMEN VETERANS HAVE BEEN LEADERS IN SECURING THEIR OWN RIGHTS OF SUFFRAGE AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, AND HAVE BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF NUMEROUS SOCIAL CHANGE MOVEMENTS IN HISTORY, PAVING THE WAY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY THE INALIENABLE RIGHTS, DUTIES, AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF ALL CITIZENS.

THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ACKNOWLEDGES THE CHALLENGES FACED BY WOMEN VETERANS, INCLUDING THE NEED FOR COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH CARE ACCESS TO EDUCATIONAL AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND SUPPORT FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELL BEING AND BLAH BLAH, BLAH, BLAH BLAH.

THERE'S A LOT OF HANDSHAKE AND PICTURE TAKING.

BUT THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF I HAVE A BOOK CALLED FROM YEOMANETTES TO FIGHTER JETS.

AND SO WHEN THE BLUE ANGELS WERE HERE, THEY HAD A WOMAN PILOT.

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SO ANYWAY, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CITY.

ONE THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS, NOW THAT WE'RE OUTDOORS AND HOT, THE LIGHTNING SYSTEM, WE HAVE TO NOW.

YES, AND SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE HEARD IT.

LAST WEEK IT WAS TESTED OUT HERE TO THE PARK.

I COULD HEAR IT FROM MY HOUSE.

WHICH IS SO CLOSE.

I HAD A CALL FROM A PENSIONER FROM THE CITY ASKING WHERE WE STOOD ON THEIR REQUEST FOR COLA, AND I KNOW WE WENT OFF AND DID SOME STUDIES, BUT I HAVEN'T AND THEY HAVEN'T HEARD THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES.

I WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT, APPARENTLY.

I WAS WAITING ON A STAFF PERSON TO GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION, AND SHE DID, AND I DIDN'T ACT ON IT.

SO I WILL TRY TO GET THAT BEFORE YOU AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.

JUNETEENTH IS COMING UP, AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST A DAY OFF.

IT'S A DAY TO RECOGNIZE ANOTHER STEP IN EQUALITY FOR ALL, FOR ALL AMERICANS.

THERE IS A CELEBRATION IN JAX BEACH IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING THAT.

AND ONE MORE THING IS THE VETERANS PARK IS A PARK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, BUT IT'S IT'S SUPPORTED BY A COMMITTEE OF NAVAL OF MILITARY OFFICERS.

AND THEY'RE HAVING A FUNDRAISER AT CULHANE'S TOMORROW NIGHT FOR FROM 6 TO 8 FOR BINGO.

SO GO AND SUPPORT OUR PARK AND THEIR PROJECTS.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

AND AGAIN, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.

THANK YOU. BEFORE I CLOSE THIS OUT, I DO WANT TO SAY I HEAR THE CITIZENS ON ON SECOND STREET.

MAYBE WE'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS AFTER WE HEAR FROM OUR STOP.

COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN.

BUT I ALSO HEARD ON THE THE THE PAVING ISSUE THE HUMP IN THE ROAD FROM SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

AND I'M CERTAIN THAT CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH WILL LOOK INTO THAT RIGHT AWAY SO I CAN COUNT ON THAT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM SIX.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW.

THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY DESIRE TO HAVE CONVERSATION ON EITHER SIX A OR SIX B? OKAY. SO LET ME READ THEM, AND THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ITEM SIX A IS AWARD ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT TO HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, INC.

FOR THE PROJECT SCOPE LISTED IN RFQ 2020 402, IN THE AMOUNT OF $47,339.64.

ITEM SIX B IS AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE PHILADELPHIA MIXER IN THE AMOUNT OF 45,002 3120.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

I OPPOSED.

THAT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS.

[7. COMMITTEE REPORTS]

OH, THERE YOU ARE. WOULD YOU COME UP TO THE LECTERN, PLEASE, AND SHARE WITH US? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT DOING A FULL REPORT, BUT DO YOU WANT TO DO AN OPENING STATEMENT ON YOUR REPORT FROM THE SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING COMMITTEE? SURE. THANK YOU. RICHARD ARTHUR, I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR THE SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING COMMITTEE, AND AS COMMISSIONER WATERS SAID I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE IN THE.

AND IT'S A VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE, AND WE'RE COMPRISED OF MEMBERS FROM EVERY DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY.

AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE BEFORE TONIGHT IS SIX POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH FOR THE FIRST HALF OF OUR EXISTENCE, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

GO INTO ANY BACKGROUND DETAILS ON THESE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS? OKAY. MAY I OPEN THIS? OKAY. FOR THE CITIZENS KNOWLEDGE, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IN TRYING TO SOLVE PARKING ISSUES AND SO ON IS ENFORCEMENT AND IN SUPPORT OF CHIEF VICK AND HIS DIFFICULTY, IT'S HARD TO ENFORCE SOMETHING THAT'S AMBIGUOUS, UNCLEAR, AND SO ON.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THIS PARKING COMMITTEE HAS BEEN TASKED WITH IS MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR POLICY CHANGES TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF THAT WILL MAKE IT WILL CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE'RE BETTER ABLE TO ENFORCE AND IN SOME CASES TICKET, IN SOME CASES

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BUT I JUST WANTED TO SET THE STAGE ON THAT BEFORE WE OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION AND QUESTIONS ON THIS.

AND I ALSO WANT TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEE FOR WORKING A LONG TIME ON THIS AND CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT.

AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT.

SO WITH THAT WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE? NO. RICHARD.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

DISTRICT TWO, BY THE WAY.

YEAH. SO, IN FACT, I TALKED TO CITY MANAGER TODAY.

SO BASICALLY WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTS, AND I'VE WATCHED A LOT OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE.

SO BASICALLY THERE'LL BE BOTH POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS AND ORDINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS? WELL, THESE ARE JUST THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, THE GENERAL GUIDELINE THINK OF IT AS A COMP PLAN, AND IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DEVELOP THAT AND THE ACTUAL NUTS AND BOLTS.

SO WHETHER WE GOT THE ACTUAL STATE STATUTES REFERENCED CORRECTLY OR NOT, THE ESSENCE AND THE INTENT OF THE POLICY IS THERE, AND SO IT'S THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BROAD.

HOW THEY'RE INTERPRETED OR DRAFTED OR IMPLEMENTED IS KIND OF WHERE WE HAND IT OFF AND YOU GUYS PICK IT UP.

SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT DOCUMENT THAT WOULD IN FACT NEED AN ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGES IN HERE.

IT'D BE A TWEAK TO AN ORDINANCE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING TIMES ON 18TH AND 19TH STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, WAS A RECOMMENDATION IN THERE.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AFTER OUR DISCUSSION TODAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL COME WITH POLICIES AND IF WE NEED ORDINANCES, CORRECT.

SO THOSE THOSE WOULD COME UP AGAIN.

THE POLICIES WOULD BE INTERPRETED.

CORRECT. CORRECT. BUT WE BRING THOSE POLICIES BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.

OKAY. THANKS.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION. SO HOW DID, EXCUSE ME, HOW DID YOU COME TO FOCUS ON PARKING AND NOT THE OTHER ASPECTS OF SAFETY? WELL, THE FIRST HALF, AS YOU SEE IN HERE, THE NUMBER OF POLICY, POLICY QUESTIONS THAT STAFF CAME UP WITH THE SECOND HALF OF OUR COMMITTEE, WE WERE KIND OF WAITING ON THERE'S A GRANT THAT'S BEEN AWARDED.

I THINK KIMLEY-HORN HAS IT.

AND THROUGH THAT SAFETY THERE'S A LARGE ASPECT OF THAT GRANT THAT HAS A SAFETY COMPONENT ON IT.

SO WE WERE WAITING FOR THE GRANT TO BE AWARDED SO WE CAN BE AS A KIND OF A COMMITTEE THAT CAN WORK IN HAND WITH THAT PIECE OF IT.

BUT WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER HALF OF THE COMMITTEE TO DO ON IT.

SO THE FIRST PART OF THIS WAS, YOU CAN SEE AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WAS DIVIDED UP.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. RING.

THANK YOU. RICHARD.

I KNOW THAT THAT WASN'T AN EASY TASK TO GET THIS RECOMMENDATION OFF TO US.

I KNOW YOU'VE PROVIDED US WITH ONE BEFORE TODAY ON A WHOLE OTHER SLEW OF OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU'VE LISTED.

AND YOU STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS LEFT BEFORE YOU SUNSET? YEAH. SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I THINK THIS IS VERY READABLE, AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMING OUT AND SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER WATERS.

YEAH. THANK YOU RICHARD.

I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER KILLINGSWORTH AND ALSO DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AS WELL FOR THE WORK AND THE WHOLE STAFF.

I'VE READ IT, AND I HAVE MAYBE JUST MAYBE AN OFF THE CUFF QUESTION FOR YOU.

HOW DID Y'ALL OR DID YOU GUYS ADDRESS.

THE DISCREPANCY WITH ALL THESE PARKING SPACES AND WHO WANTS IT? WHO DOESN'T WANT IT? AND HOW DO YOU SUGGEST OR SHOULD WE LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND TO SCOTT WILLIAMS ON WHERE TO PUT THESE? SO RELATIVE TO WHERE TO ACTUALLY PUT PARKING SPACES I MEAN, IT'S EASY ON 18TH AND 19TH IT'S EASY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ON PLAZA ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE HAVE THE DIAGONAL PARKING SPOT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SPOTS FOR FOR, FOR A LOT OF PARKING, I MEAN, FOR A LOT OF PARKING SPOTS.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, DID Y'ALL DISCUSS.

I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO, ARE WE GOING TO WAIT TILL THE RESIDENTS GRIPE AND WANT PARKING SPOTS PLACED WHERE THEY ARE? THAT IF YOU THAT IF YOU COULD PARK THERE IF YOU HAVE A SPOT.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SPOT, YOU CAN'T PARK THERE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

I MEAN, IT KIND OF THAT THE QUESTION KIND OF CROSSES A FEW OF THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS, THE DEMARCATION POLICY IN THERE, THE TURF PARK POLICY, AND PROBABLY PROBABLY WITHIN THOSE WITHIN THE TURF BLOCK POLICY.

WE REFERENCED A GOAL TO HIT WHICH HAS THE STANDARDIZED PARKING SPACES AND WHERE TO PUT THEM.

WHICH IS IN THE, THAT'S ITEM THREE, PAGE 45 OF MIKE.

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SO THOSE LISTS OF DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND THE STATE STATUES REALLY IS DEFINES AS WHERE YOU CAN PUT THEM.

SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IN THE DEMARCATION OF PARKING SPACES.

WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS THAT YOU HAVE TO IN THE PURPOSE IN THEIR ONE OF THOSE CLEAR PARKING POLICIES.

THE DEMARCATION AND THE LINE STRIPING CAME ABOUT IN THE SENSE THAT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE COMMON CHARACTER OF YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AND HAVE VISUAL BLIGHT AND PUT A SIGN ON EVERY SPACE.

SO BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU WANT TO INDICATE WHERE A VISITOR CAN AND CAN'T PARK A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM A STOP SIGN DRIVEWAY AND A FIRE HYDRANT. SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU JUST YELLOW LINE WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK, THEN YOU'RE DEMARCATING AND GIVING NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC, THE RESIDENTS AND EVERYONE THAT VISITS WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK, IT'D BE MUCH MORE EASIER TO ENFORCE FOR TICKETING AND SUCH.

YOU HAVE EXAMPLES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING CLOSE TO A STOP SIGN.

THE POLICIES EXIST TODAY, THE STATE STATUTES EXIST TODAY.

WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH ANY NEW RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE JUST TRY TO IDENTIFY A WAY TO TO INDICATE TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RULES OF THE LAND ARE.

YEAH. AND AND WE IDENTIFIED THREE DIFFERENT UNIQUE PARKING AREAS WHERE THERE'S THE BEACH PARKING, TOWN CENTER PARKING, OTHER AREAS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CHALLENGES.

AND SO DEMARCATING THEM IN A WAY THAT'S UNIFORM IN EACH AREA IS WHAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE PUBLIC AND THE VISITORS.

LIKE I SAID, WHETHER IT'S SEVEN FEET FROM A DRIVEWAY, FIRE HYDRANT, DISTANCE FROM A STOP SIGN AND SUCH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MARK THAT.

AND WE WERE CAREFUL, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT JUST HAVING SIGNAGE BLIGHT ON THE AREA AS LEAST INTRUSIVE, INTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE, BUT AT LEAST GIVES AWARENESS TO EVERYONE WHERE YOU CAN AND CAN'T PARK, AND THEN IF SOMEONE WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, TICKET THEM, THEN THEY KNOW THEY UNDERSTAND.

YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF THAT PIECE OF IT.

IT DEFINES HOW BIG THE SPACE IS AND WHERE YOU CAN PARK.

THOSE STATE STATUTES EXIST TODAY.

THE OTHER AREA WITH THE TURF BLOCKING, WHICH IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WHAT WE KIND OF DISCUSSED IN THAT IS THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PLOWING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ALL THE BEACH IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AND JUST PUTTING PARKING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AREAS THAT ARE EXISTING, BEING USED TODAY.

THAT'S JUST SAYING THAT SOMEONE PARKS THERE EVERY WEEKEND, EVERY DAY TO MAKE THAT A SAFE, STABLE SYSTEM FOR SOMEONE TO, TO GET OUT AND PARK ON.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PLOWING OVER SOMEONE'S BUSHES AND PUTTING IN PARKING IN THAT AREA.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPACES THAT ARE BEING USED TODAY.

MAKE THEM LEGAL.

YOU MAY HAVE AN AREA IN A BEACH ACCESS THAT CURRENTLY HAS SIX SPACES.

PEOPLE ARE PARKING THERE EVERY DAY.

IT'S ALL SAND. AND IF YOU MAKE THEM, IF YOU CONFORM TO THE STANDARDS OF THE STATE STATUTES, YOU MAY ONLY END UP WITH THREE AND A TURF BLOCK SYSTEM, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE WELL DEFINED. IT'S GOING TO ORGANIZE IT AND CLEAN IT UP.

AND THAT WAS THE INTENT TO KIND OF ORGANIZE THE MESS OUT THERE, CLEAN IT UP, MAKE THE STANDARDS UNIFORM SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS IT.

AND WE DID RECOGNIZE THAT THE NATURAL PROGRESSION OF A PAID FOR PARKING IS THAT PEOPLE.

IT DOES PUSH PEOPLE TO THE OUTSIDE AND IT KEEPS GOING AND GOING.

IT'S IT'S WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

WE'VE SEEN IT. PAID PARKING WAS ANOTHER PIECE WE LOOKED AT IN THERE.

YEAH. SO IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION ON THAT, IT DOES.

IT DOES. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. YEAH.

IT'S JUST ONE THING WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE POLICIES, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET CHIEF VICK'S INPUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE POLICY.

BECAUSE HE'S A GUY OVER THERE THAT'S CHARGED.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM. YEAH. AND I ACTUALLY WANT TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS MY NEXT POINT, IS AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TONIGHT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM CHIEF VICK AFTER YOU AND HE TALK ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE DELINEATE THOSE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE WE CAN'T ENFORCE ANYTHING WITHOUT HAVING IT CLEAR AS TO WHAT WE'RE ENFORCING.

YOU CAN'T VERY WELL TICKET PEOPLE AND TOW THEIR CARS WHEN THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'RE VIOLATING ANY LAW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO FIX THAT.

BUT THE QUESTION AND I HEARD THE CITIZENS EARLIER IS, DO WE DO USE A LOT OF WHITE PAINT? DO WE USE A LOT OF YELLOW PAINT? DO WE USE SIGNS? DO WE USE VERY LITTLE? AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK THAT YOU AND CHIEF VICK HAVE I'M SORRY CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH, THAT YOU AND AND CHIEF VICK HAVE DISCUSSED THAT.

AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR, AT LEAST TO BEGIN ON THIS, THE LEAST ONEROUS IDEAS FOR HOW TO DO THAT.

AND I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

SO WE KNOW ON FIRST STREET, I THINK FIRST STREET ACTUALLY HAS BEEN AN EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.

I AGREE, IT'S A LOT OF PAINT.

NOT NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHAT IF INSTEAD OF PAINTING THE ENTIRE RECTANGLE FOR A CAR WHITE, YOU JUST PAINTED THE CORNERS MAYBE 12IN THIS WAY? 12IN THAT WAY? IT'S LESS THAN A WHOLE GRID.

A WHOLE BOX.

THAT'S. ONE IDEA, THEN DO WE ACTUALLY NEED TO PAINT A YELLOW STRIPE DOWN THE THE CURB ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET WHERE YOU CAN'T PARK?

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THIS COMMITTEE WAS NOT TASKED WITH GIVING THOSE ANSWERS.

THIS COMMITTEE WAS TASKED WITH GIVING A BROAD RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND NOW IT'S UP TO A CITY STAFF WITH LEADERSHIP AT THE TOP TO SOLVE THOSE THINGS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT NEXT MEETING, ASSUMING WE COME BACK WITH ANY RESOLUTION TO REVIEW AND POSSIBLY APPROVE, I'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION, IF THAT'S OKAY.

ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? YES. TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HEAR ABOUT PRETTY REGULARLY ARE ELECTRIC BIKES.

DID YOU GUYS GO DOWN THAT ROAD AS FAR AS THE STATUTE AND LOOK AT THAT? WE HAVEN'T JUMPED INTO THAT ONE YET.

NO, I MEAN THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG ONE.

IT'S HAPPENING TODAY AS YOU KNOW.

OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S SOME OTHER ORDINANCES AND MUNICIPALITIES COMING OUT WITH RESOLUTIONS TOO.

YEAH. WE HAVEN'T DUMPED JUMPED ON THAT ONE YET.

THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER KELLY. I THINK WE NEED TO, THERE'S, I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE NEED MORE OF THE THE TURF BLOCK PARKING AND THAT WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR THEM.

AND SO WE'RE COMING UP WITH BUDGET SEASON, AND WE NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT AND HOW MUCH OF THAT WE WANT TO PUT IN OUR BUDGET, AND THAT. AGREED.

IF THAT'S IMPORTANT TO US AND I, I LIVE RIGHT BY SOME ON STURTEVANT, BY THE DINER, AND THEY ARE NICE, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP KEEP THE DEBRIS OUT PRETTY WELL, EXCEPT FOR THE GUYS WHO LIVE UNDER THE HEDGE THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.

WE APPRECIATE IT. SO, COMMISSIONERS DO WE WANT TO GIVE US CONSENSUS NOW TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CRAFTING A RESOLUTION FOR US TO REVIEW AT THE NEXT MEETING? SURE. YEAH. OKAY.

YOU HAVE IT. IF YOU'LL WORK ON THAT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, IF I CAN, MR. MAYOR. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD BRING BACK A RESOLUTION THAT HAD EACH POLICY FOR DISCUSSION, LIKE WE DID WITH THE CHARTER, AND THEN THE COMMISSION COLLECTIVELY CAN DECIDE WHICH ONES THEY WANT TO PUSH FORWARD AND HAVE STAFF ACT ON WHETHER THAT ACTION IS THROUGH THE FORMULATION OF A POLICY THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPTS, OR THE FORMULATION OF AN ORDINANCE THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPTS AND THE BUDGET.

YEAH, WE ALREADY HAD THE STRIPING MACHINE SO WE CAN STRIPE AWAY.

SO BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SUBJECT, I DID FORGET TO MENTION ON THE ISSUE OF THIS IS ON PAGE 45 OF MY HANDOUT.

THE CITY WILL ENSURE THAT ALL TURF GRID SYSTEM PARKING ADHERES TO FLORIDA STATUTE 316.1945 AND THE FLORIDA GREEN BOOK PARKING SPACE DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS.

I, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO ADHERE TO PARKING ONLY BEING ALLOWED 30FT BACK FROM A STOP SIGN.

CORRECT. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THAT WAS TO INCLUDE THOSE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY.

RIGHT NOW, THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT IS IN THE ROADWAY, WHICH IS THE ACTUAL PAVED PART OF THE ROAD.

MOST OF OUR PARKING IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT ON THE PAVED PART, AND THERE'S NO STATUTORY PROVISIONS THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE CODE.

IT'S BEEN DONE DIFFERENT WAYS OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME.

SO THE IDEA, I BELIEVE, IS TO INCORPORATE THOSE STANDARDS FOR PARKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY.

EXACTLY. AND SO FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING THE THE CHALLENGES HAS BEEN THAT WE'RE ONLY WE WERE ONLY DEALING WITH WHAT WE INTERPRETED TO BE FLORIDA STATUTES REGARDING THE PAVED SURFACE OF THE ROAD, NOT THE ADJACENT AREA THAT'S STILL WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS WHERE MUCH OF THIS PARKING IS.

SO MY ASK IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT HOW WE PHRASE THAT GIVES US CLEAR INDICATION THAT WE'RE ADHERING TO 30FT BACK FROM STOP SIGNS ON ANY PARKING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, NOT ON THE PAVED SURFACE.

IS THAT OKAY? WE GOT THAT.

NO, I HAVE ONE MORE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE WE SIT DOWN WITH THE AS WE LOOK AT THE POLICIES THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME GREAT POLICIES, WE COULD HAVE A WHOLE LIST OF POLICIES.

BUT UNLESS THEY'RE ENFORCED AND UNLESS WE PRIORITIZE WHAT THE MOST IMPORTANT POLICIES ARE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE BILL CHIEF VICK SOME DIRECTION

[01:10:02]

IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN SAY YES, YES, YES.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO SAY THE MAGNITUDE OF EFFORT THAT THE CITY WANTS TO PUT IN TO, HOW WE ENFORCE THAT, HOW WE POLICE THAT, HOW WE, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND THE OTHER THE OTHER THING IS WHEN WE DID THE PARKING COUNT A COUPLE YEARS AGO, TREMENDOUS STAFF TIME.

SO I WANT TO MINIMIZE NOT JUST POLICE STAFF TIME, BUT ALSO STAFF TIME AS WELL.

YEAH. COMMISSIONER KELLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF VICK.

YEAH. DO OUR DO YOU HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS WHO DO PARKING TICKETS? YEAH, WE DID THEM IN JAX BEACH.

OH, OKAY. CHIEF, CAN YOU COME UP FOR ONE SECOND SINCE SINCE WE'VE GOT THIS ON THE DISCUSSION, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT CAN DO SO.

OUR REGULAR PARKING ATTENDANT IS ONLY FOR THOSE AREAS THAT ARE PAID PARKING.

YES, CHIEF. VIC GUALILLO.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OUR PAID PARKING ATTENDANT JOE, WHO USED TO BE ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND HE DID USED TO VOLUNTEER HIS TIME.

WE HIRED HIM FULL TIME.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER VOLUNTEERS ACROSS THE YEARS THAT VOLUNTEERED TIME.

THOSE FOLKS ARE NO LONGER WITH US.

WE HAVE MADE THAT TRAINING AVAILABLE TO OUR VOLUNTEER CORPS, BUT NO ONE IS INTERESTED RIGHT NOW TO TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO WRITE TICKETS ON THE WEEKENDS FOR US.

OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES TO MIND, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES WITH ENFORCEMENT OF PARKING WITHIN SO MANY FEET OF A FIRE HYDRANT AND SO ON AND BLOCKING THINGS.

BUT THE ONE THAT IS IT MAYBE IT'S JUST IRRITATING TO ME AND NOT TO ANYBODY ELSE, BUT IS PEOPLE PARKING THE WRONG WAY ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE STREET? SO I GREW UP WITH THE DIRECTION OF TRAVEL.

YOU PARK IN THAT DIRECTION AND I BELIEVE IT'S FLORIDA STATUTE TWO.

VIC, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT? THAT'S CORRECT SIR. SO WE HAVE HUGE VIOLATION ON THAT.

BUT HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT IF WE ONLY DO THAT WITH A VOLUNTEER, HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT? AND THE REASON WHY I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT IS IT BEGINS TO SET THE TONE AND THE DIRECTION.

AND I HEARD THE THE CITIZEN EARLIER THAT SAID, I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU GIVE THEM A FAKE TICKET OR JUST A WARNING OR WHATEVER, BUT WE NEED TO START TALKING TO PEOPLE OR TELLING PEOPLE THROUGH OUR ACTIONS.

THAT'S NOT OKAY.

AND THEREFORE WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT THING, THAT'S NOT OKAY.

AND WE JUST CAN'T SPRING IT ON EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME THAT SUDDENLY WE CARE ABOUT RULES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO.

WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A LOT OF RULES THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ENFORCING, WHETHER THEY WERE CODIFIED OR NOT.

AND SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AND AT LEAST DEAL WITH THE CARS THAT ARE PARKED ILLEGALLY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION? I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE, IS ADELE GRAGE.

ALMOST EVERY CAR ON SEVENTH IS PARKED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE STREET.

WHY? IT'S BECAUSE THEY COME IN FROM THAT DIRECTION AND THEY'RE USED TO DOING IT.

CAN WE CHANGE THAT? WE CAN.

IT'S A POSSIBILITY.

I THINK THE OFFICERS WHO WHO ARE OUT THERE LOOKING AT THOSE VIOLATIONS, TAKING TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THEY'RE CAUSING A TRAFFIC ISSUE WHICH MAKES THE SITUATION MORE DANGEROUS, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO ENFORCE IT, AND I'M NOT SURE ALL OF THEM AGREE THAT PARKING THE WRONG DIRECTION TAKES UP MORE SPACE OR IS MORE DANGEROUS.

IS IT A VIOLATION OF THE WRITTEN LAW AND ORDINANCE? ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT, REASON WHY THEY HAVEN'T ENFORCED IT HEAVILY.

AND MAY I COMMENT? I AGREE THAT THIS IS NOT AN EARTH SHATTERING PROBLEM, BUT AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO FOLLOWING THE LAW OR NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.

AND SO IF WE'RE PERMISSIVE ON THAT, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL BE PERMISSIVE ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND HERE'S MY QUESTION FOR SIMPLICITY.

SO THAT WE DON'T NEED MORE OFFICERS OR VOLUNTEERS, COULD WE JUST PRINT UP SOME WARNINGS FOR THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE? AND IF A POLICE OFFICER DRIVES BY, THERE SUPPOSEDLY NO PERSON STANDING AT THE CAR AND THERE'S THREE CARS PARKED NEXT TO ADELE GRAGE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, PUT THREE NOTES ON THREE WINDSHIELDS.

NO TICKET. JUST SAYING, IN THE FUTURE YOU COULD BE TICKETED FOR THIS.

THAT COULD BE DONE. IF WE COULD DO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUICK START TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT WE CARE ABOUT.

AND FOR THE.

YEAH, BUT FOR THE CITIZENS, I THINK WHAT AT LEAST ONE PERSON'S OBSERVATION IS WE'VE HAD ANARCHY IN OUR PARKING FOR SOME TIME HERE, AND, AND IT HAS GROWN BECAUSE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE DO, IN FACT, WANT TO COME TO ATLANTIC BEACH.

SO I SEE EXAMPLES AND I, YOU KNOW, BEING NEAR THE BEACH, I SEE THEM BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKED.

PEOPLE ARE NOSE INTO PARKING SPACES, NOT PARALLEL THERE ANY WHICH WAY THEY CAN GET INTO A SPOT AND GO TO THE BEACH.

AND IF WE DON'T GET SOME CONTROL OVER THIS NOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GET MORE CONTROL AS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO ATLANTIC BEACH.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND I BET YOU PEOPLE WOULD START TURNING THEIR CARS AROUND BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A TICKET.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. OKAY.

[01:15:03]

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 24-29]

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAD A TRUCK IN WHICH WAS DAMAGED IN AN ACCIDENT.

WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $26,000 IN INSURANCE MONEY TOWARDS THE TRUCK.

AND SO WE WANT TO DO TWO THINGS.

WE WANT A SURPLUS THAT TRUCK.

AND THEN WE WANT TO TAKE $45,000.

IT'D BE THE 26TH THAT WE'RE GETTING FOR INSURANCE.

AND THEN THE DIFFERENCE FROM A COUPLE OTHER ACCOUNTS FOR A TOTAL OF $45,306 TO REPLACE THAT TRUCK.

SO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2429 FOR THE DISPOSAL OF PUBLIC UTILITIES 2102 AND PURCHASE OF A 24 2024 FORD F-150 FOR THE AMOUNT OF $45,199.28, AND WAS WHAT WAS THE DELTA ON WHAT WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED TO WHAT WE'RE PAYING ROUGHLY 26 TO 45.

YEAH, 26. IT'S 45,000 -26.

AND DID THAT DELTA INCLUDE WHAT WE MIGHT GET FOR SURPLUS THE TRUCK? NO. SO WE COULD GET A FEW THOUSAND OUT OF THAT.

OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2429.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

I OPPOSED RESOLUTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THIS.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS]

CITY ATTORNEY.

I THINK YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO HEAR FROM ME TONIGHT BECAUSE I GOT YOUR ATTENTION, DIDN'T I? YEAH. YOU DID. REMEMBER THAT CASE THE FORM SIX CASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN THE YEAR? AS WE'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT, I GOT AN INJUNCTION ON THAT CASE.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I KNOW WHAT AN INJUNCTION IS, WHAT IT IS, WHAT IT MEANS.

SO A JUDGE HAS FOUND THAT IT IS NOT APPARENT FROM THE RECORD THAT A CHANGE FROM THE FORM ONE TO THE FORM SIX REQUIREMENT WAS NECESSARY AND NOT SUBSTANTIALLY IN THE STATE'S INTEREST.

SO THERE'S AN INJUNCTION.

IT STOPS THE FORM SIX ENFORCEMENT.

SO OKAY, SO THE NEXT LOGICAL QUESTION IS UNTIL AN IF AND WHEN THAT INJUNCTION IS LIFTED, THAT FORM SIX DOES NOT HAVE TO BE FILED.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN WE STILL MUST FILE FORM ONE? I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE IS.

NOW, FORGIVE ME BECAUSE I JUST TRIED TO SPEED READ THIS ORDER IN THIS PAST, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTES.

I LITERALLY JUST GOT IT THIS EVENING.

BUT IT IS A TEMPORARY INJUNCTION.

BUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS, THOUGH, IS THAT THERE'S A REASONABLE LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS ON THE MERITS.

SO WHILE THE CASE IS STILL PROCEEDING THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT IT WILL NOT BE THAT FORM SIX WILL NOT BE ENFORCED.

SO IT'S KIND OF QUIRKY BECAUSE THE TIMING IS SUCH THAT IT'S WHAT, JUNE 10TH AND YOU'VE GOT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, THE END OF THE MONTH TO ACTUALLY FILE SOMETHING.

I BELIEVE WHAT THIS MEANS AND I WILL CONFIRM IT.

I JUST WANT TO GET YOU THE NEWS AND LET YOU DIGEST IT.

I ALSO WANT TO READ THE DETAILS OF THIS 33 PAGE ORDER, BUT I THINK WHAT IT MEANS IS YOU'LL BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO ACTUALLY FILE THE FORM ONE ON OR BEFORE JULY 1ST, NOT THE FORM SIX, BUT LET ME GET THE ACTUAL DETAILS OF THAT AND I'LL I'LL INFORM YOU ACCORDINGLY.

BUT I WANTED TO GET YOU THIS HOT OFF THE PRESS.

I MEAN, LITERALLY THIS IS JUST HITTING THE, THE AIRWAVES AND YOU'LL PROBABLY BE READING ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, BUT IT'S GOOD NEWS.

HERE'S THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS, TOO, THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND ONE PENNY ON THIS.

AND IT ACTUALLY APPLIES TO NOT JUST THE 74 PLAINTIFFS THAT ACTUALLY ISSUE THAT ACTUALLY COMPLAINED YOU KNOW, PURSUANT TO THE SUIT, BUT IT'S STATE IT'S A STATEWIDE IMPLICATION.

SO IT MEANS YOU ALL BENEFIT FROM IT ANYWAY.

SO WHAT IF YOU ALREADY FILLED IT OUT AND WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO DO THAT? I YEAH, YOU KNOW, WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO MENTION IS THE INCENTIVE TO HAVE PROCRASTINATED HERE.

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY, THIS IS A GOOD THIS IS A GREAT REASON TO PUT THINGS OFF TO THE LAST MINUTE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE MINE YET.

BETTER YET, TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, HOW ABOUT THE 100 PLUS OFFICIALS STATEWIDE THAT ACTUALLY RESIGNED? YEAH. SO NOW THAT'S TRUE.

THANK YOU. THAT IS GOOD NEWS.

[01:20:04]

OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE TO CLOSING COMMENTS.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

COMMISSIONER RING, I HAVE NOTHING.

TRY TO STAY COOL OUT THERE.

SO SOUNDS OR SEEMS TO BE A VERY HOT SUMMER.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER WATERS.

I JUST TALKED TO LENNY JEVIC ABOUT THE MEMORIAL FOR THE THE FOR THE VETERANS.

THE FALLEN HEROES MONUMENTS, WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED.

THEY STILL HAVE ABOUT $10,000 TO GO TO GET THE FOUNDATION OF IT.

AND THE FINISH THE STATUE.

IT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE MEMORIAL DAY.

AND HE'S GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE, BUT I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO BE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.

WE STILL NEED ABOUT $10,000 FOR THAT.

AND ALSO YES.

THE CHRIS YES.

YOU'RE IN MY DISTRICT.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS FLOODING.

AND I'M GOING TO WORK WITH MAYOR, CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH ABOUT ADDRESSING THIS.

OKAY. YEAH.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

NO MORE. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER. RIBBON CUTTING ON SPLASH PAD, SATURDAY AT 10:00, I BELIEVE.

15TH. THE 15TH.

BUT IT'S THIS SATURDAY.

YES. RIGHT.

THIS COMING SATURDAY, THE 15TH AT 10 A.M..

RIBBON CUTTING. YEAH.

SPLASH PAD. AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW.

BUT, RICHARD, WE OWE HIM ANOTHER.

THANKS FOR JUMPING IN AND BEING THAT CHAIRMAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE COMMITTEE.

YEAH, AND TAKING ON, BECAUSE IT'S A JOB I WOULD WANT TO HAVE.

EXTRAORDINARY. AND SO APPRECIATED.

HERDING CATS. THANKS.

THAT'S ALL. YES, THAT WAS TRUE.

HERDING CATS. ALL RIGHT IF THERE IS NO.

OH, YES. I'M SORRY.

YEAH, SORRY. GO AHEAD.

TWO QUICK THINGS. SO YOU'VE BEEN SEEING THINGS ON CONSENT, AND I BELIEVE I'VE EXPLAINED KIND OF MY PHILOSOPHY ON IT.

SO THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE ON CONSENT ARE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR.

IT'S EITHER A LINE ITEM BUDGET OR IT'S A COOL BUDGET WHERE THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM HAS MULTIPLE THINGS IN IT, AND WE ARE PURCHASING SOMETHING PURSUANT TO THE BUDGET AND IT'S UNDER BUDGET.

SO WHEN WE'RE IF IT MEETS THOSE CONDITIONS, I'M BRINGING THEM THROUGH AS CONSENT, BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTION IS YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT FOR THAT AMOUNT AND WE'RE JUST GETTING A SECOND AUTHORIZATION.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT REQUIRES US MOVING MONEY OR ADDING MONEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WILL BE A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, DEPENDING UPON WHAT IT IS WE HAVE TO DO.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS SPLASH PAD.

IT IS HOT. AND THE ONLY COMPLAINT I'VE GOT IS WE CLOSE TOO EARLY.

SO STEVE CHANGED THE COMPUTER TODAY AND IT WILL STAY OPEN TILL 8:00 FROM NOW ON.

GREAT NEWS. THAT WHEN THE STREETLIGHTS COME ON? OKAY. IF THEY'RE HEARING NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.