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THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP DATED MONDAY, JULY 22ND, 2024 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

LADAYIJA, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER BOLE.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RING.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WATERS.

PRESENT. MAYOR FORD. PRESENT.

THANK YOU. LADAYIJA.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

[1. PUBLIC COMMENT]

DO WE HAVE ANY SIGNED IN SPEAKERS? BRINKLEY HARRELL.

IMAGINE THAT.

[INAUDIBLE] SURPRISED NOT TIRED OUT.

THERE SHE GOES. GOOD JOB.

YEAH. GOT A LITTLE THROAT SPRAY UP HERE IF YOU NEED IT.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF, RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS.

I'M BRINKLEY HARRELL, TWO 66TH STREET.

GLAD TO BE HERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET RELATED THINGS.

Y'ALL KNOW HOW I GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE BUDGET.

I SENT OUT TWO EMAILS TO EVERYONE YESTERDAY.

SO IF YOU READ THE EMAIL OR IF YOU PRINTED IT OFF, I'M ONLY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE COLA EMAIL RIGHT NOW.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THIS IS LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN.

EVERY YEAR, THE CITY MANAGER GRABS A NUMBER OUT OF THE SKY.

5%, 4% WHATEVER PERCENT FOR A COLA ADJUSTMENT FOR ACROSS THE BOARD, FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

OKAY, I GOT IT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF INCOME STREAMS THAT I GET AN ANNUAL COLA ON.

A NUMBER OF Y'ALL HAVE A COUPLE OF INCOME STREAMS, LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY THAT YOU GET A COLA ON.

WELL, COLA IS NOT A MERIT PAY RAISE.

IT'S NOT AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE PAY CHART AND IT'S NOT A PERFORMANCE RAISE.

IT IS MERELY A COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT BASED UPON INFLATION, NORMALLY AS MEASURED BY THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS.

NOW, RIGHT NOW.

AND THIS WAS INTERESTING.

TWO WEEKS AGO, AT THE BUDGET MEETING WHEN MR. KILLINGSWORTH SAID THAT HE HAS FACTORED IN A 5% COLA FOR ACROSS THE BOARD CITY EMPLOYEES.

OKAY. COLA IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO INFLATION, AND INFLATION IS MEASURED BY THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

OKAY. WELL, RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT CPI IS AT 3%.

AND BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, THE THIRD QUARTER, WHICH IS WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOES OFF OF, IT'S PROJECTED TO BE 2.7%, BUT YET WE'RE OFFERING UP 5% INTO OUR BUDGET FOR COLA'S.

THAT AIN'T RIGHT.

I MEAN, MY ALL MY RETIRED PAYS ARE ONLY COMING IN AT 2.7%, BUT YET I'M THE TAX PAYER THAT'S NOW HAVING TO PAY OUT IN MY TAXES TO THE CITY AND WHATNOT. 5% THAT JUST DOESN'T FLOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO DATA TO SUPPORT A 5% COLA WITHIN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

NOW, ONCE AGAIN, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WELL, OUR EMPLOYEES DESERVE THIS OR THAT OR WHATEVER.

OKAY, WELL THEN ADJUST THE PAY CHART OR ADJUST MERIT PAY RAISES OR ADJUST PERFORMANCE RAISES.

BUT A COLA IS A COLA.

IT'S TIED TO THE CPI.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT PROCESS BECAUSE EVERY YEAR IT'S THE SAME OLD THING EVERY TIME.

NOW Y'ALL REMEMBER BACK LAST YEAR, JOE GERRITY PROPOSED A 4% COLA.

OKAY, LIUNA, THE UNION THAT REPRESENTS PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC UTILITIES CAME IN FIGHTING FOR A 5%.

AND JOE HELD HIS GUNS, AND HE CONVINCED Y'ALL.

AND MAYBE I SAID SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE CONVINCED YOU TOO TO HOLD IT AT 4% AS BUDGETED FOR EVERYONE ACROSS THE BOARD.

OKAY. WELL THAT WAS GOOD.

BUT YET THE THE CPI LAST YEAR WAS ONLY 3.2%.

SO THEY DID GET A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA KICKER LAST YEAR AT 4% WHEN THE CPI WAS 3.2.

OKAY. NOW GOING BACK TO THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS, THE PREVIOUS MAYOR, THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, THEY DID SOMETHING THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT YESTERDAY THAT I HADN'T RECALLED, IN THAT THEY SPLIT THE CITY APART IN THAT PREVIOUS BUDGET WHEN THEY WENT WITH 3% ACROSS THE BOARD TO MOST CITY EMPLOYEES, THEY GAVE THE LIUNA CONTRACT EMPLOYEES 4%.

NOW, THAT AIN'T RIGHT THAT HALF THE CITY GETS 4%.

THE OTHER HALF ONLY GETS 3%.

NOW, ONCE AGAIN, GOING BACK TO LAST YEAR'S PROCESS, WHICH WAS GOOD IN THAT IT WASN'T DIRECTLY TIED TO THE CPI.

Y'ALL MADE IT.

AND YEAH, IT WAS ALL Y'ALL THAT WERE VOTING ON THAT.

Y'ALL MADE IT 4% ACROSS THE BOARD.

WHETHER OR NOT YOUR LIUNA CONTRACT, WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE NONUNION AND SO FORTH.

NOW, NOTHING THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE POLICE CONTRACT.

THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ANIMAL.

BUT MY MAIN POINT IS YOU GUYS REALLY OUGHT TO MAKE A POLICY ABOUT TYING THE COLA TO THE TRUE

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JUDGE OF INFLATION, WHICH IS THE CPI, AND IT COMES OUT THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER.

BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT FIGURE IS GOING TO BE BY MID-SEPTEMBER WHEN YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR FINAL BUDGET.

YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS AND IT'LL MAKE YOUR LIFE A LOT EASIER.

A COUPLE OF Y'ALL RUNNING FOR REELECTION, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS IN FUTURE YEARS IF YOU ADOPT A PROCESS.

SO IF I SPOKE TOO FAST ABOUT SOMETHING, JUST REFER BACK TO MY EMAIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MR. HARRELL.

I SEE A FEW OTHER GUESTS.

ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? HEARING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND WE'LL OPEN UP THE BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER TWO PRESENTATION WITH CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH.

[2. TOPICS]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION.

BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER TWO.

TO START OFF ON THE AGENDA AGAIN, THIS SHOWS A AUGUST 26TH DATE IS TENTATIVE, BUT WE DO PLAN ON HAVING A 2ND AUGUST MEETING WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE 26TH OR NOT.

WE'LL PLAY THAT BY EAR FOR A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE INTENT ON THAT LAST ONE THAT'S LABELED TENTATIVE IS A ROLL UP OF ALL THE OTHERS.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EACH WORKSHOP IS A SUBSET OF THE WHOLE CITY WITH A PUBLIC SAFETY AND RECREATION COMING AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.

AND THEN IDEALLY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO SOME CONCLUSION ON MOVING THE BUDGET FORWARD.

IN SEPTEMBER. WE'LL HAVE AN ORDINANCE FOR THE FIRST HEARING.

YOU'LL SET THE MILLAGE RATE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A SECOND HEARING IN THE SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER AND ADOPT A BUDGET.

I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE VISION AND THEMES AGAIN FOR THIS EXERCISE TONIGHT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, BUILDING CODE, PUBLIC UTILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS, SANITATION AND STORMWATER.

IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, THEY ARE PRETTY FLAT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.

THE REASON THAT THAT'S A 17% INCREASE IS THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DONE THERE.

THE PUBLIC UTILITIES HAS HISTORICALLY DEFERRED A GREAT DEAL OF MAINTENANCE.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD WITH PROJECTS.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PULLING FROM RESERVES A LITTLE BIT TO DO SOME OF THE PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S THE PRINCIPAL CAUSE OF THE 17% CHANGE THERE.

PUBLIC WORKS LARGELY STAYING THE SAME, SANITATION LARGELY STAYING THE SAME.

AND STORM WATER IS DUE TO A REDUCTION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS THIS GO AROUND.

I WILL SAY THAT THE NEXT MEETING, I'LL PROBABLY HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT STORMWATER.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ABOUT IT THIS BUDGET CYCLE, BUT IT APPEARS AS THOUGH WE'VE BEEN SUBSIDIZING STORM WATER. IT HAS NOT BEEN RUNNING, IT HAS NOT BEEN OPERATING UNDER ITS OWN REVENUE SOURCES, AND THAT IT'S BEEN GETTING MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

AND SO THAT I THINK SHOULD STOP OR WE SHOULD AT LEAST ACCOUNT FOR IT APPROPRIATELY.

BUT WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT TIME, PERHAPS.

BUT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW THE REDUCTION IS DUE TO PROJECT LIMIT, THE REDUCTION IN PROJECTS.

IF WE LOOK AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THERE WAS A 10% CHANGE THERE.

THAT REFLECTS THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT AS WELL AS A ADJUSTMENT THAT WAS SIMILAR TO HR, WHERE THE 401 K LINE ITEM WASN'T BEING FULLY FUNDED AND WE WERE JUST MAKING UP THE DIFFERENCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO I'M BUDGETING THE MONEY BASED ON THE HISTORIC CONTRIBUTIONS, NOT BASED ON WHAT COULD BE CONTRIBUTED, BUT BASED ON THE HISTORIC CONTRIBUTIONS.

THE OPERATING EXPENSES HAVE GONE DOWN TO A REDUCTION IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES.

AND THE CAPITAL OUTLAY IS THAT $5,000 INCREASE, $5,100 INCREASE FROM THE PRIOR YEARS FOR A COMPUTER.

IF WE LOOK AT BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, EXCUSE ME, PERSONAL SERVICES, WHICH IS LARGELY REFLECTED BY THE COST OF LIVING CHANGE. OPERATING EXPENSES ARE FLAT.

WE ARE INCREASING THE CONTRACTUAL SERVICES THERE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE HAD AN EMPLOYEE RETIRE AND WE ARE TAKING HIS WORKLOAD AND WE'RE GOING TO FARM THAT OUT TO UNIVERSAL.

AND THEY WILL DO THE INSPECTIONS, THAT HE WAS PREVIOUSLY DOING.

AND THEN THERE'S A REDUCTION IN WE'RE MAINTAINING THE CAPITAL OUTLAY AT THE SAME, SAME LEVEL AS IT WAS THE PRIOR YEAR.

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SO IN TERMS OF THE HIGHLIGHTS, I PRETTY MUCH HIT THESE ALREADY WERE INCREASING THE 401 CONTRIBUTION MATCH FOR PLANNING AND ZONING TO MATCH WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING CONTRIBUTED BY OUR EMPLOYEES? WE'RE ADDING MONEY FOR A CONSULTANT TO ASSESS OUR GIS SYSTEM AND BUYING A COMPUTER BUILDING CODE.

WE'RE INCREASING CONTRACTUAL SERVICES TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOSS OF AN EMPLOYEE, WHICH I THINK LONG TERM THE COMMISSION HAS EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST TO PRIVATIZING THIS SECTION, AND SO THIS IS MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION INCREMENTALLY.

PUBLIC UTILITIES PERSONNEL SERVICES, AGAIN, THAT LARGELY REFLECTS THE COST OF LIVING CHANGE, THE OPERATING EXPENSES. YOU KNOW, I JUST LOST WHAT THE OPERATING EXPENSES WAS.

IT WAS A DECREASE IN PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES.

CAPITAL OUTLAY IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING SOME SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF PROJECTS THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE DEBT SERVICE IS THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE UTILITIES EXISTING DEBT SERVICE THAT WE HAVE.

OTHER USES THE REDUCTION THERE IS AND I DON'T I'M NOT SURE WHY, BUT LAST YEAR WE TOOK MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC UTILITIES AND USED IT TO FUND THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING.

THIS YEAR, THAT MONEY IS NOT BEING PULLED FROM THE GENERAL FROM THE UTILITIES AND PUT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THAT'S A REDUCTION.

AND THAT REPRESENTS, BY AND LARGE, THAT REDUCTION UNDER OTHER USES.

YES. YEAH. THE 60% INCREASE IN THE CAPITAL OUTLAYS ARE YOU GOING TO GO THROUGH THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE DRIVEN THAT NUMBER? YES. AND TROY IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THAT.

SO IN TERMS OF THE HIGHLIGHTS WE'VE DECREASED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES, INCREASED OUR LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AROUND THE PUBLIC UTILITIES FACILITIES INCREASE ASPHALT AND REPAIR ASPHALT REPAIR AND CONCRETE WORK FOR OUR PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES.

INCREASE IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

THIS IS THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU WERE JUST REFERENCING.

I'M GOING TO LET TROY GO THROUGH THEM ONE BY ONE WHEN HE DOES HIS PRESENTATION.

AND LOOKING AT PUBLIC WORKS, YOU HAVE THE PERSONNEL SERVICES AGAIN THAT'S LARGELY DRIVEN BY CHANGES TO THE DUE TO THE COLA OR OPERATING EXPENSES ARE ESSENTIALLY FLAT.

THE DROP IN CAPITAL OUTLAY IS BECAUSE I PULLED MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS OUT.

SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE AS ENHANCEMENTS IN THE BUDGET.

SO THE ENHANCEMENT REQUESTS AS OPPOSED TO BEING ACTUALLY IN THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S WHAT LARGELY REPRESENTS THAT 40% REDUCTION.

WE DID INCREASE OVERTIME IN PERSONNEL SERVICES.

WE HAVE ENOUGH WORK THAT WE NEED SOME OVERTIME TO TO MAKE THE WORK HAPPEN, BUT NOT SO MUCH WORK THAT WE NEED TO ASK FOR MORE FTES.

WE'RE PUTTING IN MONEY FOR REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ON 100 WEST FIRST STREET.

THAT IS ABOVE AND BEYOND, LIKE REPLACING THE ROOF AND TOTALLY REBUILDING IT.

IT'S JUST ONGOING MAINTENANCE MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN DECREASE IN TRAINING FOR ADMIN INCREASE IN CONTRACTUAL SERVICES FOR LANDSCAPING AND THERMOPLASTIC CROSSWALKS.

THERE'S A LEAF SUCKER.

I DO NOT LIKE THAT NAME, BUT IT'S BASICALLY A VACUUM.

IT'S BASICALLY A VACUUM CLEANER FOR DITCHES AND CULVERTS.

WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT FOR THE ISLAND DEAD TREE REMOVAL.

WE BELIEVE THERE'S SALTWATER INTRUSION THAT'S STARTING TO TAKE PLACE THERE, AND IT'S STARTING TO AFFECT SOME OF THE TREES.

WE DO NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WE BUDGETED A REPLACEMENT FOR THE BULL PARK CABANA, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAILBOX IS AT ADELE GRAGE.

WE CAME OUT ONE MORNING IN THE CABANA WAS OFFSET 8 OR 10 INCHES, AND WE THOUGHT SOMEBODY HAD HIT IT.

AND PULLING OFF SOME OF THE FASCIAS AROUND THE BOTTOM, WHAT APPEARS HAPPENED IS THE ANCHORS THAT ANCHORED IT TO THE CONCRETE WERE COMPLETELY RUSTED THROUGH AND NO LONGER HELD THE BUILDING. AND SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT THE WIND ACTUALLY MOVED THE BUILDING.

WE HAVE DONE SOME TEMPORARY ANCHORS TO HOLD IT.

SO WE EITHER NEED TO DO SOMETHING PERMANENT THERE, OR AMANDA REMINDED ME THAT IN THE PARK MASTER PLAN, THAT CABANA IS REMOVED AND ADDITIONAL PARKING IS PUT THERE.

SO NOW'S THE TIME TO KIND OF DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO REPLACE THE CABANA OR WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT THAT PORTION OF THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN AND

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PUT THE INCREASED PARKING THERE.

THE COST IS PROBABLY ROUGHLY THE SAME.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S NOW'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF MAKE THAT DECISION.

YOU WANT TO DISCUSS. SO IF YOU IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS THERE, I CAN IT'S REALLY CHANGING A DESCRIPTION NAME, BUT IT WAS JUST KIND OF A WASH.

IT'S KIND OF I THINK THE COST WOULD LARGELY BE A WASH.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE THE ACOUSTIC NIGHT, YOU HAVE BEACH PARKING, YOU HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO ADELE GRAGE.

I MEAN AND I SEE MY PUBLIC WORKS GUYS CONFERRING.

SO LET ME ASK SCOTT.

SORRY. COME ON UP REAL QUICK, SCOTT.

SORRY. NO PROBLEM. I'M SORRY.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE COST WOULD LARGELY BE A WASH TO CONVERT THAT TO PARKING VERSUS.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WE GOT IN THERE.

I THINK IT'S LIKE $60,000.

WE COULD PROBABLY TIE THAT IN.

IF WE DID THE PARKING, WE COULD PROBABLY TIE IT IN WITH NEXT YEAR'S ASPHALT.

JUST HAVE THEM DO THE ASPHALT WITH THE ASPHALT CONTRACT, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BECOME A WASH AT THAT POINT.

ALL RIGHT. BUT THERE'S SO THERE'S CONSIDERABLY A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

YOU'D HAVE TO REBUILD THE CURB.

YES. REBUILD THE CURB.

AND THEN AND WHERE THE ISLANDS ARE RIGHT NOW, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT, EXCAVATE THE DIRT, PUT IN LIME ROCK, AND THEN IF WE DID THAT ON THE PROPER TIMING, THEN WHEN WE HAVE OUR ASPHALT CONTRACT COME IN, YOU CAN JUST TAKE A SWEEP ACROSS THERE AND PAVE IT ALL OR PUT IN TABBED PERVIOUS PAVERS.

PERHAPS. SO I HAVE ONE MORE THING.

THAT CABANA IS REALLY JUST TO COVER UP THE MAILBOX.

YES. AND WE MOVED THE MAILBOX.

IT'S FUNCTIONAL. I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE MOVED IT BACK, THOUGH.

NOW THAT I THINK IT'S UP BACK UNDER THE CABANA, WE HAVE ASKED THE POST OFFICE TO REPLACE THE MAILBOX BECAUSE IT'S RUSTED PRETTY HEAVILY AND HAS SOME SHARP EDGES ON IT.

BUT THE PURPOSE OF THAT CABANA WAS IT JUST TO COVER UP THE MAILBOX FOR THE MAILMAN TO COME DUMP MAIL AND FOR RESIDENTS TO COME DROP MAIL? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

AND THERE USED TO BE LIKE A FOLIO OR A BEACH LEADER OR THOSE KIND OF MAILS NEWSPAPER BOXES THERE.

WELL, NONE OF THOSE REALLY NONE OF THEM ARE THERE NOW, SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE PARKING.

YEAH. LAST THING.

HOW MANY SPOTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CREATING? SIX. I'M ALL FOR THAT.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

COMMISSIONER RING. YES, SCOTT, YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD NEED SIX OR WE WOULD LOSE THE CABANA AND GAIN SIX SPACES.

IS THAT BILL? WAS IT SIX OR WAS IT FIVE? WE MEASURED IT.

YEAH, WE MEASURED IT SIX SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT IT'S 5 OR 6 SPACES BECAUSE MY DISTRICT, WE DO HAVE MAILBOXES, JUST LIKE THE ONE OVER BY ADELE.

THERE IS NO CABANA.

THAT CABANA. YES.

YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE SEEN THOSE AND THEY'RE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT MY DISTRICT, SO NO CABANA ANYWHERE.

YEAH, YEAH. SO HAVING LIVED NEARBY FOR A WHILE, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT.

I USE THAT MAILBOX.

BUT I OFTEN DON'T PULL THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH BECAUSE I DRIVE AN F-150 TRUCK AND THAT'S A TIGHT TURN.

YES IT IS. SO TO ME, IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL ENOUGH TO SAY, LET'S KEEP IT.

IT'S PRETTY, BUT IT'S NOT NEEDED.

AND THOSE 5 OR 6 PARKING SPACES ARE NEEDED.

I'M ALL FOR ELIMINATING THE CABANA NOW, BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS, WHERE WOULD THAT MAILBOX GO? OR WOULD WE JUST DISCHARGE IT ALTOGETHER SO WE WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE POST OFFICE.

BUT WE LOOKED AT WE THINK THERE'S SPACE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO IF YOU KNOW WHERE THE MAILBOX IS RIGHT NOW, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.

WE CAN PUT A PAD ON THE ADELE GRAGE SIDE OF THAT DRIVEWAY FOR THE MAILBOX.

IT'D JUST BE A WALK UP AT THAT POINT.

JUST BE A WALK UP AT THAT POINT, IT WOULDN'T BE A DRIVE THROUGH.

YEAH, OKAY. BUT IT HOLDS MAILBOX HOSTAGE UNTIL THEY CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTY ON MAYPORT ROAD.

IT HAPPENED. ALL RIGHT.

I LIKE THAT IDEA. I'M APPOINTING YOU AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIRWOMAN ON THAT ONE.

I HAVE A SWORD, AND I'M NOT AFRAID TO USE IT.

ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

YEAH, WE'LL CHANGE THAT OUT TO PARKING.

NOW. BUT HOWEVER, IN THE INTERIM, IF THERE'S NO FASTENERS HOLDING THAT BUILDING DOWN AND WE'RE IN HURRICANE SEASON.

NO, NO, WE'VE PUT TEMPORARY.

IT'S JUST NOT A PERMANENT FIXTURE.

WE ACTUALLY WENT IN THERE AND WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE ACTUALLY DID.

BUT WE HAVE SOME PRETTY HEAVY DUTY METAL AND IT'S A U-CHANNEL AND IT BOLTS TO THE POLE.

AND THEN WE DRILLED THE HOLES TO THE CONCRETE AND THE BOLTS OF THE CONCRETE, AND WE'RE JUST PLANNING ON DOING TWO OF THEM TO KEEP IT FROM DOING THIS.

BUT WE ENDED UP DOING ALL FOUR POSTS.

SO ALL OF THEM HAVE TWO L-CHANNEL HEAVY DUTY STEEL THAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED AND DESIGNED BY ERIC, WHO IS

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OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR.

SO KNOWING THAT WE'RE ONLY JUST GOING INTO OUR PAVING SEASON NOW FOR THIS BUDGET YEAR, ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PUSHING THIS OFF FOR ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT PAVING SEASON? YEAH, WE'LL PUSH IT UNTIL WE GET, YOU KNOW, START GOING ON PAVING NEXT YEAR.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS.

IF WE MOVE ON TO WHAT'S PAGE 16 OF THE AGENDA YOU'LL SEE A PIE CHART THAT SHOWS HOW PUBLIC WORKS IS FUNDS ARE DIVVIED UP.

BASICALLY, A THIRD GOES TO ROADS AND STREETS, A THIRD GOES TO MAINTENANCE.

AND THEN THE OTHER THIRD IS COMPOSED OF ADMINISTRATION, BUILDING MAINTENANCE, EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE AND BEAUTIFICATION.

I HAD SOMEBODY REMIND ME THAT 5.5% ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY TOWARDS BEAUTIFICATION.

SO AS WE WORK OUR WAY FORWARD, WE MIGHT TRY TO INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE A LITTLE BIT.

IN TERMS OF SANITATION THAT'S BASICALLY FLAT.

IT DOES HAVE THE OPERATING EXPENSES DOES HAVE A COST OF THE CPI INDEX RAISE, WHICH IS BASED OFF THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THERE.

SO SANITATION BASICALLY STAYS FLAT FOR US IN TERMS OF OVERALL, IT'S ACTUALLY A SLIGHT REDUCTION.

STORM WATER.

THE PERSONNEL CHANGES, THAT'S THE 5% COLA.

BUT I WILL SAY I WANT TO LOOK AT OUR STORM WATER QUITE A BIT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF COST ALLOCATION THERE.

BUT AS THE BUDGET STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE PERSONNEL EXPENSES REFLECT THE 5% OPERATING EXPENSES ARE BASICALLY FLAT.

OUR CAPITAL OUTLAY HAS GONE DOWN.

WE'VE REDUCED SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THERE, ALL OF THE PROJECTS, NOT THE MAINTENANCE.

SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO CONVEY IS EVEN THOUGH YOU SEE A $5 MILLION BUDGET THERE, WHAT THE STORMWATER FEE COVERS IS REALLY JUST COST ALLOCATED SALARIES AND MAINTENANCE.

WE GENERATE ABOUT $865,000 THROUGH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FEE.

THE REST OF THE MONIES IS EITHER GENERAL FUND SUBSIDY OR IT COMES FROM GRANTS.

SO MAINTENANCE IS WHAT PRINCIPALLY DITCH CLEANING.

OKAY. SO CAN YOU TOUCH ON THE DEBT SERVICE, WHAT THAT IS.

WELL, AND I HAVE TO TALK TO BRITTANY ON THAT ON THE DEBT SERVICE FOR STORM WATER.

YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT FUNNELED INTO THE BUDGET.

I HAVE OUR DEBT SERVICE HERE.

WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. OKAY? OKAY. DO YOU CARE IF WE COME BACK TO THAT? WHILE SHE PULLED IT OUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS CURIOUS IF WE COULD RETIRE SOME OF THAT.

SAY, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE OUR BACK ON TRUCK PAYMENTS.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? IT'S NOT ALL THAT, BUT A PORTION OF IT WOULD BE.

THAT'S THE VACUUM TRUCK.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH, WE CAN COME BACK. I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

SOME OTHER SUCKER. EXACTLY.

AND THEN SANITATION.

SO THE BIG CHANGE YOU SEE IN SANITATION IS A REDUCTION OF $360,000.

THAT WAS A CONTRIBUTION TO THE GENERAL FUND.

JUST NOT A COST ALLOCATION, JUST A CONTRIBUTION TO THE GENERAL FUND.

SO I'VE REMOVED THAT.

I'M ON STORM WATER, SO I MUST HAVE BACKED UP ONE.

SO THE HIGHLIGHTS IN TERMS OF SANITATION, WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE BUDGETING TOWARDS HOMELESS CAMP CLEANUP.

AND THEN WE'RE PROPOSING A 9%, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT ON THE FIRST BUDGET INCREASE.

I MEAN, FOR SANITATION, IT'S A 3.7% INCREASE, I THINK, IN SANITATION, BASED ON THE CONTRACTUAL.

STORM WATER WE'RE ASKING FOR A RATE STUDY.

THE STORMWATER FEE HASN'T BEEN ADJUSTED SINCE 2016.

AND THEN WE'VE ADDED THE ATLANTIC TO AHERN DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

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I HAVE A QUESTION I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YOU EARLIER TODAY.

IS IS THERE ANOTHER WAY? I MEAN, THE HOMELESS CAMP CLEANUP.

IS THAT HOMELESS CAMP JUST REMOVAL? CORRECT. REMOVING IT.

IT'S REMOVING ALL, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BRING ALL THEIR TARPS AND OKAY WORD AND THEN BANK ENCAMPMENT STUFF.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GO OUT AND MOVE THEM ALONG, BUT THEN PUBLIC WORKS HAS TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP AFTER THEM.

YEAH. OKAY.

YES. COMMISSIONER.

DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COST OF THE CITY? WHAT DO WE DO, CHIEF? DON'T WE GET THEM A STORAGE UNIT FOR THEIR STUFF.

THAT'S SEPARATE.

AND WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME OUT OF? THERE'S [INAUDIBLE] ROOM AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE ALONG. OKAY, BUT.

BUT THAT'S TIME LIMITED.

CORRECT, CHIEF. 90 DAYS.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN THAT THIS YEAR? WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE ARE BUDGETING FOR THAT HOMELESS CAMP CLEANUPS.

OKAY. HOW DO YOU THINK THE STATE MANDATE MAY AFFECT THAT? I DON'T BELIEVE THE STATE.

SO WHAT THE STATE MANDATE SAYS IS IF YOU ALLOW CAMPING, YOU HAVE TO DO THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS.

CAMPING IS NOT ALLOWED IN ATLANTIC BEACH FOR THE HOMELESS, WHICH IS WHY WE SEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT AND TELL THEM THEY NEED TO MOVE ALONG, AND THEN WE CLEAN UP THEIR CAMPSITE. IT'S NOT PERMITTED HERE.

AND I PLAN ON BRINGING THAT ISSUE UP IN THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING TONIGHT.

OKAY. THAT'S I WAS GOING TO SAY WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH WE DO. AND WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

SURPRISED? OKAY.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS LIST OF INCLUDED CAPITAL PROJECTS BEFORE.

THESE ARE PRINCIPALLY PUBLIC UTILITIES, AND TROY IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEM.

THERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE THE PURCHASE OF DORA DRIVE, WHICH MAY HAPPEN BEFORE THE BUDGET.

WE GAVE THEM SIX MONTHS TO CLEAN THE SITE, BUT THAT'S LARGELY FUNDED THROUGH GRANT FUNDS.

SO THE REVENUE FOR IT IS THE GRANT AND THE EXPENDITURES, THE PURCHASER.

IF IT HAPPENS THIS YEAR, THE REVENUE AND THE EXPENSE WILL BALANCE OUT AND IT BECOMES A WASH.

BUT IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

SO WE'RE INCLUDING IT IN THE BUDGET FOR NOW.

OKAY. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR MILLING AND PAVING WAS $216,000, GIVE OR TAKE.

IN THE ENHANCEMENTS, YOU'LL SEE THE 335, WHICH WOULD GET US TO THE 550 THAT WE DID THIS YEAR.

SO THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF AN ENHANCEMENT.

AND WE HAVE WE HAVE ANOTHER WELL, ACTUALLY, WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS IN AUGUST, AUGUST.

SO WE SHOULD KNOW REVENUES SUFFICIENT TO PULL FORWARD MANY OR MOST OR MAYBE EVEN ALL OF THE ENHANCEMENTS.

CORRECT. MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE AND LOOKING AT STORM WATER, THERE'S SOME SUBSIDIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THERE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO BACK OUT, BUT YEAH, WE SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO SUBSTANTIALLY DO SOME OF OUR ENHANCEMENTS.

THE LEVY ROAD MULTI-USE PATH THAT CAME OUT BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE COMPLETED HERE VERY SHORTLY.

AND I WILL SO WE HAVE THE 16TH STREET BEACH WALKOVER IS CURRENTLY IN THERE, SO THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION.

THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT POTENTIALLY JUST DOING THE DESIGN THERE, BUT I TALKED WITH STEVE AND THE DESIGN HAS BEEN DONE.

SO IT'S A CONSTRUCTION THAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS SEEMS TO BE WE FEEL IT'S PROBABLY A GOOD NUMBER.

AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING A MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT, STEVE? SO THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

SO ENHANCEMENTS YOU'LL SEE LIST.

I'M NOT GOING TO RUN THROUGH ALL THE ENHANCEMENTS AGAIN.

WE'LL GET SCOTT AND TROY UP HERE TO TALK ABOUT THEIRS.

BUT WHAT YOU WILL SEE ON HERE ARE SOME NEW ONES.

AND THIS IS THE INITIAL CUT AT PRIORITIZING THEM FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.

YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER ONE IS STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A GREAT DEAL OF DISCUSSION ON OUR STORMWATER CODE AND FOR ME TO ADEQUATELY GIVE YOU RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT, WE REALLY NEED TO UPDATE OUR STORMWATER MASTER PLAN.

NUMBER TWO ON THERE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.

BUT I DO WANT TO BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE IS I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE PAY OFF THE BOND DEBT FOR THE SELVA PRESERVATION LANDS.

IT'S $1.2 MILLION.

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I AM NOT GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE DO THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL WHETHER IT BE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT WON'T BE OUT OF THIS YEAR'S REVENUE FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT OF RESERVES.

WE'RE PAYING MORE IN INTEREST ON THAT THAN WE'RE EARNING, AND WE CAN PAY THAT DOWN WITHOUT NEGATIVELY AFFECTING OUR POLICY IN TERMS OF RESERVES. SO I DON'T WANT TO PIN YOU DOWN.

I KNOW WE'RE JUST SITTING HERE, AND SO YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE RESERVES STAND AT ABOVE 50%.

I BELIEVE WE'RE RIGHT AT 50%.

AFTER WE DID THE LIFEGUARD STATION AND 101ST STREET.

AND SO YOUR BEST GUESS IF WE TOOK THE MONEY OUT OF RESERVES TO PAY DOWN THE BOND DEBT SERVICE, THAT WOULD REDUCE US TO WHAT PERCENTAGE? SOMEWHERE AROUND 43 TO 44%.

OKAY, BILL.

AND ONE THING, AFTER WE DISCUSSED BRIEFLY TODAY, ONE THING WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED, YOU KNOW, LATER ON WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MILLAGE RATE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS LIST, THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT, IN FACT, YOU WANT TO LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE, RIGHT, THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE AVAILABLE.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR LEAST PRIORITY WISE AS WE GO THROUGH IT.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE LAST YEAR WE DID SOMETHING A LITTLE UNPRECEDENTED AS FAR AS MILLAGE RATE.

AND SO I KNOW WE TALKED I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH HERE AND SAY WHAT DO I REALLY WANT IF I WANT IN FACT LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE. AM I ON TARGET FOR THAT? WELL, YEAH. SO WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS WHEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF IT COME THE AUGUST MEETING IS, I DON'T KNOW, THE STATE AND COUNTY PASS-THROUGH FUNDS YET.

RIGHT. AND LIKE I SAID, THERE'S SOME STORMWATER ISSUES THAT I WANT TO CLEAN UP.

BUT THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE MILLAGE RATE BECAUSE THAT BUDGET IS BASED ON THESE PROJECTS WOULD HAVE TO GO, YEAH, SOME OF THESE PROJECTS CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO GO.

AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, MY BEST GUESS IS YOU CANNOT FUND ALL THE PROJECTS ON THIS ENHANCEMENT LIST.

I THINK YOUR BEST GUESS IS WE COULDN'T FUND ALL OF THEM AT THE CURRENT MILLAGE OF 2.8.

WHATEVER IT IS. CORRECT.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO GO TO THE ROLLBACK RATE, THEN THERE WOULD BE EVEN MORE PROJECTS THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO.

OF COURSE. OKAY.

AND THEN I BELIEVE YOU ARE ALL GIVEN THE LINE ITEM FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE COVERED TONIGHT IN TERMS OF THE SPREADSHEET.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO AT THIS POINT IS HAVE A TROY COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT HE'S GOT PROGRAMED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. TROY STEVENS, UTILITIES DIRECTOR.

THIS IS SOME OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WE'RE WANTING TO GET GOING THIS YEAR? THAT'S JUST A PICTURE OF OUR SERVICE LINE SERVICE AREA STARTING AT WATER PLANTS.

WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

WANT TO REHAB AND PAINT THE GROUND STORAGE TANKS AT WE'RE STILL THERE.

YEAH, YEAH, LET'S GO THERE.

REHAB AND PAINT BOTH GROUND STORAGE TANKS AT WATER PLANT ONE.

WE DID NUMBER TWO THIS PAST YEAR.

TURNED OUT VERY GOOD.

NEED TO DO THE SAME THING AT WATER PLANT ONE.

MODERNIZATION OF NUMBER TWO.

WELL, WE STARTED ONE.

WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE.

WE'RE WAITING ON ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, BUT WE WANT TO DO NUMBER TWO AS WELL.

AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.

AND TO BUILD A GROUND STORAGE TANK OUT THERE.

THE ONE WE HAVE IS BURIED HALFWAY DEEP, AND WE HAVE TO PULL A VACUUM TO GET IT TO OUR PUMP SO IT CAUSES A LITTLE WE CAN'T UTILIZE THAT WHOLE GROUND STORAGE TANK.

AND WATER PLANT THREE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH OVER TO HYPOCHLORITE FROM THE GAS CHLORINATION THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO IMPLEMENT AT ALL OF OUR TREATMENT PLANTS.

OKAY. THAT MAY BE THE ONE.

YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A WHILE.

MA'AM. YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR A WHILE.

WE HAVE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRICE OF BUILDINGS AND THE PRICE OF GROUND STORAGE TANKS ARE MORE THAN WE ANTICIPATED THIS PAST YEAR.

HOW ABOUT THE CLASS? THE PRICE OF CHLORINE? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO GET RID OF THE GAS.

AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS HERE.

TROY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE LOCATIONS OF WATER TREATMENT PLANT ONE, TWO AND THREE? SO, LIKE I SAID, WATER PLANT ONE IS IS WHERE WE'RE WANTING TO.

OH.

YEAH. 1100 SANDPIPER IS IS WHERE WATER PLANT ONE IS, AND WATER PLANT TWO IS 2301 MAYPORT ROAD,

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WHICH IS UP THERE BEHIND THE FAMILY DOLLAR ACROSS FROM PAN AM PLAZA.

AND WATER PLANT THREE IS AT 902 ASSISI LANE.

OKAY. WHICH IS NORTH ON MAYPORT ROAD.

YOU GUYS AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA? SO JUST CURIOUS, THE ONE BEHIND DOLLAR GENERAL, THAT'S NC.

A, B OR C, THAT'S WATER PLANT TWO.

IT'S IN CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACHES.

SO ONE OUT OF THREE IS IN COJ.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR, YES SIR.

YEAH. THAT'S BUCCANEER IS WHAT WE BOUGHT YEARS AGO.

AND THAT'S WATER PLANT THREE.

OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT.

DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THE WATER PLANTS UPGRADES? YEAH. WELL, MY ONLY QUESTION IS BACK TO THE SWITCH FROM THE CHLORINE GAS TO THE WHATEVER.

HYPOCHLORITE. YES, SIR.

DOES THAT JUST BRING A SAFETY OR MAYBE A COST IMPROVEMENT, OR DOES IT ALSO GIVE.

IT'S DEFINITELY SAFETY BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A IF YOU HAVE A LEAK WITH GAS, YOU'RE THE WHOLE AREA IS IN DANGER OF ENGULF.

OKAY. SO THAT IS IMPORTANT.

THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME COMPLAINTS OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO.

SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PLANT ON SANDPIPER.

THAT'S THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

YEAH. YES, SIR.

THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SMELL WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.

YEAH. SO. OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M. I'M GOING OFF ON A TANGENT.

APOLOGIES. YEAH, THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT AVENUE ON THAT.

YEAH. THOSE COMPLAINTS.

YEAH. TROY, HAVE WE BEEN HAVING SOME SOURCING PROBLEMS WITH THE CHLORINE THOUGH.

SOME WHO. SOURCING PROBLEMS. THE GAS.

WE'RE GETTING LIMITED ON SUPPLIERS.

SO WHEN WE WENT UP FOR OUR LAST BID, WE ONLY HAD ONE BIDDER.

THEY'RE COMING FROM BRUNSWICK OR MIAMI.

SO THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF THE GETTING THE GAS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE WATER PLANTS.

THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WE WANT TO REPLACE THE WATER SERVICES ON GARDEN LANE THAT'S BEEN ON OUR CIP FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

WE'D LIKE TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE.

WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE THE WATER SERVICES ON SEMINOLE ROAD.

SOME OF THESE HAD BEEN DONE TWO YEARS AGO.

THESE ARE THE LONG SIDE SERVICES.

SO LONG SIDES MEANS THE MAINS ON ONE SIDE AND THE SERVICES ON THE OTHER ONE.

THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF.

SO THAT'S WHY WE CALL THEM LONG SIDE SERVICES.

BECAUSE IT'S OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE WATER MAIN.

SO THESE WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THE MAPLE OR SEMINOLE ROAD.

SO YOU GOT YOU WELL YOU'RE NOT GOING TO CUT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BORE.

YEAH. IT'D PROBABLY BE BORE.

AND WE'RE TALKING FROM THE FIVE WAY HERE NORTH TO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD ON SEMINOLE.

AND THEN THE SHERRY DRIVE PHASE TWO IN THAT PICTURE, IT'S THE GREEN.

IT'S THE GREEN MARKED UP ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

SO WE DID PHASE ONE A YEAR AGO.

AND THAT REALLY HELPED THE PRESSURE OUT IN THAT NORTH END OF THE SYSTEM.

THIS SECOND PHASE IS TO RUN IT UP TO THE NAVY BASE, AND IT'S FOR RESILIENCY.

SO IF ANY KIND OF HURRICANES OR IF THE NAVY RUNS OUT OF WATER, WE CAN SUPPLY THEM.

OR IF WE RUN OUT OF WATER, THEY CAN HELP US OUT AS WELL.

BUT THAT'S TOTAL GRANT IF WE THAT'S A GRANT RELATED ISSUE.

SO IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT WE WON'T DO THAT PROJECT.

SO THAT 1.6 COULD COME OFF THE TABLE IF WE DON'T GET THAT GRANT.

IF WE GET THE GRANT, IS THE GRANT INTENDED TO COVER ALL OF IT? SOME OF IT, MOST OF IT 75% REFUNDABLE.

SO WE WOULD PAY THE INITIAL AND THEN GET REIMBURSED BACK.

YEAH. SO WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT.

BUT SO MY QUESTION IS IT'S A GREAT RESILIENCY PLAY, BUT WHERE DOES THE ADDITIONAL MONEY COME FROM? WHERE ARE WE APPROPRIATING THAT? I MEAN, WE'RE BUILDING RESERVES IN YOUR ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE COMING OUT OF IF IT'S A WATER PROJECT, IT'S COMING OUT OF THE WATER ENTERPRISE FUND. IF IT'S A WASTEWATER PROJECT, IT'S COMING OUT OF THE WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND.

SO ESSENTIALLY ALL OF THE CONSUMERS OF OUR WATER ARE PAYING FOR THIS.

YES, SIR. IN THE FEE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE NOW.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.

NONE OF THIS IS GENERAL FUND, NONE OF IT'S COMING OUT OF THAT [INAUDIBLE] AND DOES ANY OF THIS COST WISE

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PRECIPITATE A POSSIBLE RATE INCREASE JUST BECAUSE OF THAT? NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING 3% RATE INCREASES SINCE 2020.

AND I THINK WE STOPPED FOR SOME REASON.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS COVID AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THESE.

SO WE'VE FALLEN BEHIND ON THESE RATE INCREASES.

DID WE ALREADY DISCUSS THAT? NO WE HAVEN'T. OKAY.

ACTUALLY, BUT HE HAS IN HIS BUDGET FUNDING TO DO A RATE STUDY.

OKAY. BUT THE ONE WE DID UNDER JOE GERRITY RECOMMENDED THOSE THREE PERCENTS EVERY YEAR.

OKAY. OKAY.

WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? PROBABLY 18 OR 19.

2018 OR 19.

THE STUDY WAS DONE AND AND IT SAID TO INCREASE 3%.

WERE YOU INCREASING 3% AT THAT POINT? YES. I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THEY WERE.

BACK THEN, YES. BUT THEN IT STOPPED IN 2020.

I THINK IT STOPPED DURING COVID FOR WHATEVER REASON.

YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE BEEN, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE WHEN IT STOPPED AND THAT'S WATER UTILITIES.

EXCUSE ME, THAT'S THE WATER UTILITY FEE.

IT WAS WELL, WE WERE ASKING FOR RATE FOR THE WATER AND THE SEWER.

OKAY, SO IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, WE MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT EVEN MORE THAN A 3%, BUT WE DON'T KNOW.

ARE WE THINKING WE JUST WANT TO DO A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS TO OTHER RATES IN THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA AREA? I THINK SO, I MEAN, WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WITH THE WORK WE'RE DOING WITH JA WE ARE KIND OF HAVING A RATE STUDY DONE FOR US, SO WE'LL KNOW MORE GOOD WHEN THAT'S ALL FINALIZED.

OKAY. THE PART OF IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE DOING THE RATE STUDY FOR US, BUT THE DATA THAT A RATE STUDY WOULD REQUIRE IS BEING DONE BY JEA AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT US AS A POTENTIAL ACQUISITION.

SO THERE'S STILL ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WOULD HAPPEN FOR THE RATE STUDY.

IT'S JUST THEY'RE GOING TO GENERATE THE LARGEST PART OF IT.

DOESN'T THE INCREASE HAVE TO COVER OUR COSTS, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME.

OUR COSTS ARE NOT THE SAME AS THE NEIGHBORING CITIES.

TRUE. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HIS BUDGET BREAK EVEN OR, YOU KNOW, ACCUMULATE A SMALL RESERVE, AND WE NEED TO CATCH UP, WHICH WE HAVEN'T.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT SUCH A RESERVE.

FOR SOME REASON, FOR A WHILE BEFORE ME, STUFF WASN'T GETTING WASN'T BEING DONE.

SORRY. CAN YOU CITY MANAGER, YOU JUST SAID THAT JA IS LOOKING AT US AS A POSSIBLE ACQUISITION.

THAT'S NEW NEWS TO ME.

ACTUALLY THAT'S IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

DAVE [INAUDIBLE] DID A STORY ON IT A YEAR AGO, BUT YEAH.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW IT HAPPENED AND I CAN ASK STEVE TO COME UP IS WE WERE LOOKING AT TRYING TO ADDRESS SENATE BILL 64.

JEA HAS A BIG PIPE THAT THEY CONSTRUCTED THAT RUNS ACROSS WONDERWOOD THAT THAT WE CAN CONNECT TO. AND THE IDEA WAS RATHER THAN DOING DEEP WELL INJECTION, WE WOULD SEND OUR TREATED WATER.

SO THIS IS WATER THAT WE'VE TREATED OKAY, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SURFACE DISCHARGE ANYMORE.

SO WE CAN'T JUST DUMP IT IN THE RIVER OR DUMP IT IN THE INTRACOASTAL, PUT IT IN THAT PIPE AND BASICALLY SHIP IT DOWN TO E-TOWN OR NOCATEE, WHERE THERE'S A DEMAND FOR RECLAIMED WATER.

NOW THAT'S SENATE BILL 64 WOULD BE 2032? 32. 2032.

SO WE WE HAVE EIGHT YEARS BEFORE WE HAVE TO COMPLY.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T WAIT EIGHT YEARS TO BEGIN THAT.

SO I THINK WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT, I BELIEVE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN NEPTUNE BEACH. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET THERE IS THROUGH ATLANTIC BEACH OR JACK'S BEACH.

AND GIVEN THAT WE REACHED OUT TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD USE THEIR PIPE TO SEND RECLAIMED WATER SOUTH, THEY WANTED TO DO A STUDY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN INTEREST ON THEIR PART IN ACQUIRING OUR SYSTEM AND IF SO, HOW MUCH THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S UP FOR SALE.

IT JUST MEANS THAT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE AT THIS POINT, UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES IN THE LAW, WE WILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BY 2032.

THAT SOMETHING MAY BE DEEP WELL, INJECTION.

IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN CONVINCE THE LEGISLATURE TO DEFINE THE REVENUE THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

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IF THE UTILITY GENERATES FEWER THAN $10 MILLION IN REVENUE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE PROVISIONS UNDER SENATE BILL 64.

HOWEVER, DEP'S INTERPRETING THAT IF YOU'RE A MUNICIPALITY, IT'S THE MUNICIPALITY'S TOTAL REVENUE, NOT THE UTILITY PORTION OF THE REVENUE, BUT THE TOTAL REVENUE.

SO OUR TOTAL REVENUE WELL EXCEEDS $10 MILLION, BUT THE UTILITY REVENUE DOESN'T.

SO IF WE CAN GET THAT DEFINITIONAL CHANGE, WHICH THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT THAT WASN'T THE INTENT, THEN THE PROBLEM FOR US GOES AWAY. BUT IN THE END, IF THE PROBLEM DOESN'T GO AWAY, YOU KNOW, STAFF HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PRESENT TO COMMISSION EVERY POTENTIAL OPTION.

MY SUSPICION IS SELLING THE UTILITY WOULDN'T BE VERY FAVORABLY LOOKED UPON.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST OF DEEP OIL INJECTION IS FOR US AT THIS POINT.

SO WE WENT THROUGH THIS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, JEA ACTUALLY CAME IN.

YOU GUYS PROBABLY REMEMBER THAT.

AND IT WAS ACTUALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, SO BUT WE ALSO GOT INTO THAT.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TO KICK DOWN THE ROAD FOREVER.

THE WELLS ARE LIKE INSANELY EXPENSIVE.

AND THEY WILL COME IN AND BRIEF YOU ON WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

AS AS WE ALL THIS IS NOT THE FORUM TONIGHT TO GET INTO DEEP CONVERSATION ON SENATE BILL 64.

HOWEVER, AS YOU STUDY IT, I BELIEVE MR. SWANN PREVIOUSLY STATED THAT THE PRICE TAG FOR THAT DEEP WELL INJECTION MIGHT BE NORTH OF 40 MILLION, MIGHT BE $50 MILLION.

AND I KNOW HE'S SITTING BACK THERE SOMEWHERE.

SO IF I SPEAK OUT OF TURN CORRECT ME ON THAT, BUT IT'S A LARGE NUMBER.

STEVE SWANN, CITY ENGINEER, NOT TO GET INTO A DEEP DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 30 PLUS MILLION.

YEAH. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHY WE TALKED TO YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO WHEN JEA APPROACHED US, WE SAID, YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. IT'S ANOTHER DATA POINT FOR US.

YEAH. AND SINCE YOU'RE AT THE MICROPHONE, I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TEST.

WELL, RIGHT NOW THROUGH JEA IN THE BAY MEADOWS AREA.

NO, JEA HAD PUT A TEST WELL IN UP IN NASSAU COUNTY, AND THEY THOUGHT THEY DID ONE IN BAY MEADOWS DEEP WELL.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

AND BAY MEADOWS, THEY'RE WORKING ON A DIRECT TO POTABLE PLANT WHERE THEY'RE TAKING THE TREATED WASTEWATER.

DOUBLE, TRIPLE TREATING IT, PUTTING BACK INTO THE DRINKING WATER SYSTEM AGAIN.

RIGHT. OKAY. AS FAR AS THE UTILITY RATES 2018 WAS, WHEN THAT UTILITY RATE STUDY WAS DONE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO INCREASE THE RATES 3% A YEAR GOING FORWARD.

THE COMMISSION AT THE TIME OPTED TO DO TWO 3% INCREASE AND THAT WAS ALL THAT WAS AUTHORIZED.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

SO NOW WE'RE STARTING TO FALL BEHIND.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON BRITTANY.

SO AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT REDUNDANCY ON THE THE SWITCH OVER FROM THE GAS TO THE HYPOCHLORITE.

ALSO HAVE AN ON TO REPLACE AN ALLEN BRADLEY.

IT'S OUR IT'S WHAT RUNS OUR ALL OF OUR PUMPS AND EVERYTHING AND AUTOMATIC AUTOMATION.

IT'S A PLC THAT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD.

AND WE ALSO LIKE TO REPLACE ONE OF THE THE OLD SLUDGE TRUCKS THAT'S GOT I THINK IT'S GOT 150 SOMETHING THOUSAND MILES ON IT AT THIS POINT.

AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE MILES, BUT IT'S IT'S THE HOURS THAT'S ON THESE TRUCKS THAT'S KILLING THE TRUCKS.

SIR, I GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

SO IS IT THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT WORTH IT, OR IS IT A NUMBER OF YEARS YOU'VE HAD IT HUNDRED MILES OR BOTH OR? I JUST ALWAYS I KNOW WE HAD THIS PROTOCOL SET UP A YEAR AGO FOR EVERYTHING, BUT THEN.

RIGHT, MOST TIMES YOU GUYS SAY, LOOK, THIS AIN'T WORTH IT MAINTENANCE WISE OR IT'S JUST THAT'S IT'S THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.

WE START. I THINK WE SPENT 30,000 AND MAINTENANCE THIS YEAR ON ON REPAIRS.

OKAY. AND IT'S STARTING TO IT'S STARTING TO SHOW ITS AGE.

OKAY. IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES THEY STARTED USING THE THAT DEF FOR THE FUEL.

THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST VEHICLES OR THAT YEAR.

AND IT STARTED HAVING ENGINE ISSUES AND WE'VE BEEN PAYING REPAIR PARTS AT THIS POINT.

REPAIR COSTS. HOW LONG DID IT LAST? WELL, IT'S STILL RUNNING. I MEAN, HOW LONG? WHEN DID YOU BUY IT? TWO.

IT'S 2012, I THINK IT IS 12 YEARS.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S REALLY MY ENHANCEMENT FOR THE WASTE OR FOR THE UTILITIES AT THIS POINT.

SO REALLY HYPO UPGRADES FROM THE GAS.

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NEW VEHICLE FOR THE SEWER PLANT AND A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED NEW WATER SERVICES.

YES, MA'AM. LEGISLATION THAT NEEDS TO BE LIFTED RAISED? THE ROAD, 20TH STREET.

NO, NO, NO, THAT'S.

OH, THAT'S. I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO THE CABINET.

THE WHO? THE CABINET.

THAT'S THE ONE. OUT. OUT OF RAISING THE BUCCANEER.

OH, OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH YEAH, YEAH. BUCCANEER.

YEAH. THE WHOLE. YEAH.

THAT AND THAT WORK HAS STARTED.

BUT IT'S ONGOING AT THIS POINT.

YES, MA'AM.

YEAH. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I CAN'T IMAGINE WHY IT'S STILL ON YOUR MIND.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

THANK YOU TROY. THANK YOU.

AND THEN I'LL ASK SCOTT TO COME UP AND GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE.

HIS ENHANCEMENT ASKS.

BRIEF PRESENTATION.

SCOTT WILLIAMS, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

DEREK MARTIN, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

WE GOT JUST A FEW MINUTES, SO THERE'S NOT A REAL A LOT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS, SCOTT, YOU TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED BECAUSE WE CAN START LATE ON THE NEXT MEETING.

NO WORRIES. BUT HURRY UP AND FINISH IN FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE.

I'M PREPARED WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

SO BASICALLY, WE WE GOT THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT DEREK'S PUT TOGETHER, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO START OUT BY SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS YEAR, STARTING OUT WITH THE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.

EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE VERY HAPPY.

THE MIDDLE SLIDE, AS YOU WOULD NOTICE, WAS THE GREAT WIND-SOCK.

THAT WAS A $10 ITEM THAT IT MADE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

YEAH. I GET IT.

NEXT THING WAS THE SPLASH PAD.

THE SPLASH PAD HAS BEEN JUST A A GREAT PROJECT.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

PEOPLE ARE USING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.

TO DAY BASIS, AND IT'S JUST IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF TIME.

FORTUNATELY, RIGHT NOW, WE'VE HAD DEREK THAT JUST COMES FROM A FEW MILES DOWN THE ROAD, AND HE COMES AND DOES IT MOST SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

IT'S REALLY NOT FAIR TO HIM, BUT BUT THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.

AND THEN WE GOT WEEKLY PARK RANGERS THAT DO IT DURING THE WEEK IN MOST CASES.

SO BUT EVERY DAY WE'VE GOT A FIVE WAY TEXT CHAT, AND EVERY DAY WE GET A NUMBER OF WHAT THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS READINGS ARE ON THE PUMPS AND THE CHLORINE AND THE ACID AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON IT, AND EVERYBODY JUST KIND OF PUTS THEIR $0.02 WORTH ON IT.

AND IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF, A LOT OF HOURS TO MAINTAIN THAT.

THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE DID WAS WAS THE LEVI ROAD PROJECT.

WE ARE WE ARE WINDING IT DOWN BUT HAVING A FEW FEW PROBLEMS. WE FOUND JUST IN THE LAST 100 TO 200FT OF SIDEWALK, WE FOUND A MANHOLE THAT THEY WERE FIXING TO CONCRETE OVER.

IT WAS UNDER THE DIRT.

AND WE'VE HAD TO STOP THEM AND GET IT.

WE'RE GETTING A CHANGE ORDER RIGHT NOW FROM THEM TO RAISE THAT MANHOLE AND PUT IT UP INTO THE SIDEWALK.

SO I'LL HAVE SOME NUMBERS FOR FOR CITY MANAGER TOMORROW IN OUR STAFF MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

THE MILLING AND PAVING WE DID A LOT OF MILLING AND PAVING THIS YEAR, A LOT OF GREAT ROADS AND WELL DONE, A LOT OF LOT OF PLANS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR ON MILLING AND PAVING AND, AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT JUST HAS TO BE KEPT UP WITH AND AND JUST KEEP ON MOVING ALONG WITH IT.

BEAUTIFUL PROJECT HERE.

VERY PROUD OF THIS PROJECT HERE, DUTTON ISLAND FISHING PIER.

TWO YEARS AGO, WE DID THE RAIL REPLACEMENT AND LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

I GUESS IT WAS WE DID THE PILING REPLACEMENT.

AND THIS YEAR HERE, WE DID ALL THE RAILING AND THE AND THE WALKING BOARDS REPLACEMENT.

WE NOT ONLY DID THE FISHING PIER ITSELF, BUT WE DID THE TWO WALKWAYS THAT GO OUT.

AND IT'S JUST IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, IT'S IT'S VERY, A VERY BEAUTIFUL IT'S GORGEOUS.

IT REALLY IS. YEAH.

SAME CONTRACTOR IS WORKING ON, ON ON THE TIDE VIEW PIER RIGHT NOW.

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AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU KNOW IT, BUT WE'VE BEEN INTO PUBLIC WORKS IS OUR SECOND WEEK.

IT WAS A IT WAS A PROJECT NEEDED TO HAPPEN YEARS AGO, BUT JUST BUT IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED, AND NOT A SINGLE ONE OF MY GIRLS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR 7 OR 8 YEARS CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT.

THEY SAID THERE WAS NO WAY THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD EVER HAPPEN.

BUT BETWEEN Y'ALL HELPING US OUT AND AND A GREAT CONTRACTOR, THIS JOB IS IS JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.

WE HAVEN'T GOT OUR CO YET, BUT WE HAVE GOT A TCO AND WE'VE GOT A FEW ITEMS THAT WE STILL GOT TO TO HAVE CHECKED OUT.

ONE OF THEM IS OUR ELEVATOR IN THE, IN THE OFFICE, WHICH WAS A MANDATORY FOR ADA.

NOT THAT I NEEDED IT OR ANYTHING.

YEAH. AND SOME OF THE ONGOING PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT ARE ALREADY BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR ARE THE SHERMANS CREEK CANAL CLEANING, WHICH IS BEING DONE RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE PROBABLY TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY DONE.

AS FAR AS AS FAR AS CUTTING ALL THE DEBRIS OUT OF THE CANAL AND EVERYTHING, THEY'VE DONE AN ABSOLUTE GREAT JOB FOR US.

THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IS EVERYTHING THAT THAT WAS THERE IS EXPOSED NOW, AND IT'S JUST HOMELESS TRASH ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN THE DITCH LINES.

SO THE CONTRACTOR WILL COME BACK AFTER THEY FINISH THE TREE TRIMMING AND ALL AND START PICKING UP ALL THE TRASH.

LIKE I SAID, THEY SHOULD FINISH IN THE NEXT HOPEFULLY I WOULD SAY BY DEFINITELY THE END OF THIS WEEK, BUT POSSIBLY THURSDAY OR SO, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY.

AND THEN THEY'LL START ON CLEANING UP THE TRASH.

BUT THERE'S TONS AND TONS OF TRASH OUT THERE AND INCLUDING SHOPPING CARTS, LP TANKS, EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE, FURNITURE, EVERYTHING, PALLETS. SORRY I GOT OFF ON THAT ONE.

I WAS GOING TO GO ON DOWN THE LIST, BUT I THINK WE.

I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOOD.

HOWELL PARK TURTLE BRIDGE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DID THAT OURSELVES.

NEW CROSSWALK AT PLAZA AND AND SALFISH.

THAT WAS A A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAD FROM LENNY JEVIC.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD RECOMMENDATION.

AND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS PUBLIC WORKS, WE WERE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT WITH NOT A PROBLEM ON THAT.

ADDING, WE ADDED THE PARKING AT JORDAN PARK, THAT KIND OF IT'S KIND OF OUR ASPHALT MILLINGS THAT WE CARRIED A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO TO THAT AREA AND ADDED SOME MORE PARKING FOR THEM THERE.

AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE NEW CARPET IN THE CITY HALL, AND I GOT ON PATTY GOT ON TO ME BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF HER PROJECTS OUT OF CITY HALL.

BUT I TOLD HER THAT PUBLIC WORKS BUDGETED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO KUDOS TO PATTY, THOUGH.

AND WE TOOK OUT THE ROUNDABOUT SO, YOU HAD VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT, DIDN'T YOU? JUST ABOUT. YEAH.

WE HAD PEOPLE CLAPPING AND EVERYTHING.

OF COURSE, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE CLAPPING AND EVERYTHING WHEN WE PUT IT IN, WE HAD PEOPLE CLAPPING ALL WHEN WE TOOK IT OUT.

SOME OF THE ONGOING PROJECTS, AGAIN, ARE TIDE VIEW, SUNSET PIER THAT WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE THEM ANOTHER 60 DAYS.

SO MOST LIKELY FOR SURE INTO SEPTEMBER AND ABOUT THAT TIME, AS SOON AS THEY FINISH THAT, THEN THEY'LL MOVE OVER TO 18TH STREET BEACH WALK OVER, WHICH IS ALREADY PAID FOR UNDER THIS BUDGET.

AND THAT'LL BE PERFECT TIMING, BECAUSE IN SEPTEMBER IS WHEN WE PULL UP THE KIOSKS, SO IT'LL IT'LL WORK OUT.

WE'RE KIND OF HOPING THAT IT WOULD WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT IT HAS.

AND SO THEY'LL BE MOVING RIGHT ON TO THAT.

WEST SIDE DITCH CLEANING, WE HAVE A WE'VE LISTED THE THE STREETS.

THEY'RE NOT LISTED HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT A LIST OF STREETS.

THE JOB IS OUT FOR BID.

BID OPENING IS ON THE 31ST OF THIS MONTH.

SO THE CONTRACTORS RIGHT NOW HAVE GOT IT ON THEIR DESK AND TRYING TO THROW A BID, SOME BID NUMBERS ON IT.

800 STREET EAST TO EAST, EAST COAST TO OCEAN BOULEVARD.

THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT'S UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.

AND WE WANT TO PUT SOME MONEY IN IT TO GO AHEAD AND START DOING THE PROJECT ITSELF.

MAIN STREET SPEED HUMPS SHOULD GO IN ON THE 14TH AND 15TH.

AND THEN THE MILLING AND PAVING WILL START ON THE 19TH.

SO WE REALLY WANT TO TALK UP MILLING AND PAVING AND LET ALL THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH KNOW THAT THE PAVERS WILL BE OUT HERE ON THE 19TH, THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WILL BE AFFECTED, MAYBE NOT THEIR ROADS, BUT THEY WILL BE AFFECTED GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, GOING TO WORK IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PLAN THAT DEREK'S THROWN TOGETHER TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOTIFY PEOPLE IN THE AREA OF THE STREETS THAT WE'RE PAVING AND AND THAT I THINK THAT'LL BE A REALLY GOOD PROJECT THIS YEAR.

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WE PUT MORE TIME INTO THE PLANNING THAN WHAT WE'VE EVER DONE.

AND TOMORROW, DEREK'S GOT AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR HIMSELF TO ACTUALLY RIDE THE STREETS, SHOW THEM THE SPEED LIMITS AND THE WAY WE WANT THEM.

SHOW THEM SOME SPEED BUMPS OF THE WAY WE DON'T WANT THEM.

AND MOVE THAT PROJECT ALONG.

AQUATIC GARDENS WERE REALLY CLOSE TO HAVING THAT ONE DOWN.

WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT FOR BID.

THE BIDS WERE QUITE HIGH AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ENGINEER.

THE ENGINEERS GOT US A SET OF PLANS DRAWN UP THAT THAT CUT THE PROJECT BUT NOT CUT THE RESULTS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WE HAD PLANNED ON DOING, BUT WE SHOULD GET PRETTY MUCH PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END RESULTS.

EXCUSE ME. YEAH.

THE BEST BANG FOR BUCKS.

SO WE'RE VERY CLOSE ON THAT.

WE'RE JUST A A LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR AND US.

THEY'VE REBID IT, AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

STANLEY ROAD DRAINAGE DESIGN THAT'S A A PROJECT THAT STEVE'S BEEN WORKING ON FOR US THAT WE'RE DESIGNED WE'RE DESIGNED ON THAT.

YEAH. SO IT'S UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW.

AND AND THEN CUTLASS COVERT IS UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW ALSO, THAT IS TO PUT A EITHER A BIGGER OR TO A, SOME SORT OF A STUDY ON IT TO TELL US WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED ON THAT.

BUT THEIR DESIGN OF THAT RIGHT NOW AND LOOKING AT IT AND SEEING WHAT WHAT'S BEST FOR BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON THAT ONE.

UPCOMING PROJECTS.

THESE ARE PROJECTS AND I'VE GOT A.

AHERN STREET.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS TWO MAIN PROJECTS.

ONE WAS THE WIDENING OF AHERN BETWEEN OCEAN BOULEVARD AND EAST COAST DRIVE, AND THAT WE STARTED GETTING THAT GOING, THEN WE STARTED ON A ON A ON A COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT, WHICH IS OCEAN BOULEVARD.

EXCUSE ME, COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT WAS AS WAS WAS FROM THE EAST COAST DRIVE TO SEMINOLE.

AND AFTER WE STARTED GETTING INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE, THEN WE REALIZED THAT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, WE COULD ACTUALLY DO A A STORM WATER ENHANCEMENT PROJECT AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'VE TALKED TO THE ENGINEER AND THEY'VE GIVEN US SOME IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN DO, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IS TO PUT A STORM RETAINING PIPE THAT THAT WILL BE LIKE A FRENCH DRAIN THAT WILL DRAIN OUT UP UNDERNEATH THE SIDEWALK.

SO ALL THAT WATER ON 800 THAT WE'VE GOT FLOODED EVERY TIME IT RAINS, THEN IT'LL GO INTO THIS ENHANCEMENT PIPE.

THE MAJORITY OF IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM COMPLETELY, BUT IT'LL CERTAINLY HELP OUT.

AND CAN WE LOOK AT PERVIOUS CONCRETE OR PERMEABLE CONCRETE? WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BREAK UP REALLY EASY, RIGHT.

BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND ALL.

SO THE AHERN STREETS, I BASICALLY EXPLAINED FOUR OF THEM RIGHT THERE, BUT WHEN WE GET TO THEM, WE'LL JUST PROBABLY JUMP THOSE DUTTON ISLAND CAUSEWAY BRIDGE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU GO TO DUTTON ISLAND VERY OFTEN, BUT AFTER YOU GO OVER THE BRIDGE, THERE'S SOME REALLY BAD DIPS IN THE ROAD.

SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THE THE SAND IS SINKING UP UNDERNEATH THE THE RAILING THERE AND GOING INTO THE WATER THERE.

AND WE'RE NEEDING TO GO IN THERE AND PUT SOME PILES.

PILE DRIVE ALL THAT DEEP ENOUGH THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN.

FILL IT BACK INTO SOME GOOD, SOLID, GOOD CLEAN DIRT.

BUT AND REBUILD THE ROAD.

BUT IN THE LIME ROCK AND A NEW ASPHALT ROAD ON THERE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

RECONSTRUCTION OF THE 16TH STREET BEACH WALK OVER.

I CAN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW, THAT WALK OVER NEEDS TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE TO IT.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT IT SAFE AND UP, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY PRETTY.

SAFE AND UP FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT AN ENGINEER ASKED US TO DO TO SOFTEN IT UP.

MARY STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IS IS BEING DESIGNED AND AND I THINK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DESIGNED OUT OF THAT AND READY FOR FOR SOME ACTION ON THAT.

OH EXCUSE ME. ON THE DUTTON ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

I'M SORRY. THAT IS THE THE ROAD GOING OUT TO THE BRIDGE THAT IS ALWAYS GOT THE GRAVEL AND EVERYTHING OVER IT.

WE CAN CLEAN THAT ROAD THREE TIMES A DAY AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALWAYS THERE, BUT IT'S TO GO IN THERE AND MAKE A COUPLE AREAS WHERE THE PEOPLE CAN PASS, PULL OVER AND SOMEBODY PASSED RATHER THAN THEM GO OVER INTO THE GRAVEL, AND HALF THE TIME IT'S GOT PUDDLES OF WATER IN THERE AND IT JUST IT'S JUST A MESS OUT THERE.

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IT WAS, I GUESS, A BAD DESIGN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING SO THAT'S TO DO THAT.

CREEK RESTORATION PILOT PROGRAM.

THAT'S A CARRYOVER THAT WE HAD FOR THIS YEAR.

IT WAS THE $50,000 TO GO INTO HOWELL PARK AND TO DO A STUDY TO GET A PORTION OF IT, WHATEVER OUR MONEY WILL, WILL BUY TO GET A PORTION OF IT DREDGED OUT, PLANT SOME NICE PLANTS IN THERE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT GOOD IT WOULD DO IF WE DID ALL OF IT.

AND IT'S JUST A PILOT PROGRAM TO SEE, TO LET US KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR US.

RIGHT OF WAY PARKING. THAT'S FOR TURF BLOCK OR WHATEVER ANYBODY DECIDES RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT THE CODE SAYS, IS WE GOT TO DO TURF BLOCK IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT IT'S TO DO AREAS SUCH AS WE'VE DONE BEFORE IN THE PAST, THIRD STREET FIFTH STREET, SYLVAN, I THINK IT IS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE PUT IN THERE THE LAST COUPLE TIMES THAT WE'VE DONE THAT, AND AND LITTLE WONDER. OKAY.

HERE WE GO. GOT YOU SOMETHING, BILL.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE HERE.

AND WE'VE HAD A SOME SORT ONE THAT WE MADE A LEAF VACUUM.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS NOBODY WANTS TO USE IT BECAUSE IT'S IT'S JUST A DUSTY MESS.

WE MADE IT OUT OF PLY BOARD FOR THE LEAF FOR ALL THE DEBRIS.

AND IT'S GOT TO HAVE AIR TO ESCAPE, TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE LEAVES IN, AND IT JUST MAKES MORE OF A MESS.

YEAH, IT'S A VERY, VERY MESSY PROJECT.

SO THIS THIS LITTLE WONDER IS SHOULD HELP OUT IN THAT AND SHOULD HELP US OUT ON THE ON THE HEAVILY TREED STREETS SUCH AS 20TH AND 19TH AND SUBMARINE AND ALL THROUGH THERE.

YEAH. VERY MUCH VERY GOOD FOR STORM CLEANUP AND ALL THE LEAVES AND EVERYTHING.

SO WE'LL USE IT THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, EVERYWHERE.

I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE STREET THAT WE WOULDN'T USE IT ON.

MAYBE NOT AS OFTEN AS WE DO OVER THERE, BUT WE USE IT ON ANYTHING.

DOOR DRIVE.

THAT'S THE ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.

AHERN STREET THAT'S THE COMPLETE STREETS.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SECOND ONE.

AND THAT IS A COMPLETE STREETS FROM OCEAN TO EAST COAST AND NEW ROAD NEW ROAD WITH US, THE SIDEWALK AND ALL.

2005 MILLING.

THAT'S THE EXTRA MONEY TO MAKE TO PULL IT UP TO THE 250.

EXCUSE ME. 550,000 SIDEWALKS TO THE CITY AS NEEDED.

THAT'S TO DO REPAIRS ON THE SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THAT'S NOT NEW SIDEWALK, BUT IT COULD BE.

WE DO LAST THIS THIS PAST YEAR WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD LIST GOING, AND WE'LL BE READY TO DO SOMETHING ON THAT PRETTY DOGGONE SOON.

THE THE CABANA AT THE BULL PARK.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY.

BEACHES VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK PROJECT.

THAT IS, I THINK, THE LENNY JEVIC PROJECT.

AND IT'S THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO THE CONCRETE WORK IN ALL FORM.

I CALL IT THE LENNY JEVIC PROJECT BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT'S PURE HEADING IT, BUT IT'S FOR EVERYBODY.

DUNE WALKOVER IS THAT WHERE I'M AT? YEAH. YEAH. DUNE WALKOVER MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR.

THAT'S TO JUST REPAIR OUR DUNE WALKOVERS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S NOT TO BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT LINE.

BUT THE AHERN STURDIVANT MULTI-USE PATH THAT IS TO DO THE THE PATH FROM 800 STREET TO SEMINOLE ROAD AND THEN THE 100 WEST FIRST STREET.

I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER MONEY ON THAT ONE TOO, ISN'T THERE? YEAH. THAT'S THE UPCOMING PROJECTS FOR 2025.

THEN WE'VE GOT A ENHANCEMENT LIST.

THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO AS PUBLIC WORKS.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OF THIS POSSIBLY CUT, DEPENDING ON ON WHAT YOU ALL DO WITH THE MILLAGE AND EVERYTHING.

BUT FIRST, FIRST THING THERE IS, IS A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN TO UPDATE THAT.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT, THE ONE THAT WE'RE RUNNING OFF OF RIGHT NOW IS GETTING OLD.

IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SIX BAY BARN THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS PAST YEAR.

WE ENDED UP TAKING THAT MONEY OUT OF OUR BUDGET AND PUTTING IT INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING TO COMPLETE IT.

AND WE'RE ASKING TO TO BUDGET THAT BACK INTO THE BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT DONE.

THAT IS, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, IT'S THE THE THE BROKEN DOWN WOOD BARN THAT'S IN THE BACK.

AND WE'RE STILL USING IT.

BUT IT NEEDS SOME HELP.

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TWO NEW PICNIC CABANAS AT DONNER SPLASH PAD.

THAT'S JUST TO DO SOME AREAS.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT RUSSELL PARK HERE HAS A SHADE STRUCTURE WITH A PICNIC TABLE UP UNDERNEATH IT, TWO OF THEM.

AND JUST TO GIVE SOME PARENTS SOME SHADED AREA TO SIT UP UNDERNEATH.

WE'VE GOT ONE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK I'M GOING TO PROBABLY END UP TAKING THAT OUT.

WE'VE HAD TO HAVE A WELDER OVER TO TO WELD IT UP ON PROBABLY 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

AND SO IT RUSTS PRETTY MUCH AT THE GROUND LEVEL.

AND IT GETS TO WHERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES, THERE'S BEEN LITTLE WELD HOLES WHERE KIDS CAN GET THEIR FINGERS IN THERE OR SOMETHING AND, AND CUT THEIR FINGER.

BUT WE'VE HAD TO HAVE A WELDER IN THERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES TO FIX THAT.

AHERN STREET DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT THAT'S TO RUN THE THE THAT IS THE THIRD LEG, WHICH IS THIS IS THE THAT IS MULTI-USE PATH.

THE THE PIPING, AND THE DRAINAGE PIPE AND ALL UP UNDERNEATH THE MULTI-USE PATH.

WEST NINTH, THAT'S A PROJECT THAT YOU'VE HAD A CITIZEN COME IN HERE AND TALK ABOUT AT ONE POINT, WE'VE GONE OUT THERE, AND THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN DO ON THAT IS POSSIBLY PUT A CATCH BASIN ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD THERE, AND RUN A PIPE ON DOWN TO THE EXISTING DITCH TO MAKE THAT WORK.

THAT'S WHAT THAT PROJECT IS.

OAK CIRCLE DRAINAGE YOU'VE HAD THAT'S ALSO A CITIZEN COMPLAINT THAT WAS IN HERE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER PROJECT THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT GOING IN THERE AND BUILDING UP THE THE CENTER ISLAND PUTTING IN A CONCRETE FLUME THAT IS A DIP A LITTLE BIT THAT'LL ALLOW THE WATER TO GO ACROSS THE STREET AND INTO THE THE FERN AREA RIGHT THERE AND GO INTO THE 20TH STREET DITCH LINE. EXCUSE ME.

OKAY. NEW DUNE WALK OVER AT AHERN THAT IS TO TO BUILD THE DUNE, WALK OVER, REBUILD THAT DUNE WALK OVER AFTER THEY GET THE LIFEGUARD STATION DONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THAT IS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A NEW MOWER FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A ATTENUATOR MESSAGE BOARD.

[INAUDIBLE] BOARD.

THAT IS IT'S DOT REQUIRED. WE'VE NOT HAD ONE UP TO THIS POINT BECAUSE WE JUST KIND OF GET OUT THERE AND DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO AND GET OUT OF THERE, BUT BUT BUT IT'S NOT THE SAFEST WAY TO DO IT AND FOR OUR GUYS WORKING OUT THERE AND DOING THE THINGS THAT THEY DO, I THINK THEY NEED THAT TO BE SAFE.

MILLING AND PAVING.

THAT'S THE EXTRA MONEY GOING INTO THE MILLING AND PAVING BUDGET TO GET THE $550,000 JORDAN PARK ROOF REPLACEMENT.

I'M SORRY. THAT IS TO THE ROOF IS GETTING PRETTY OLD ON THE JORDAN PARK COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THAT'S TO REPLACE THAT.

WE'VE STARTED TO HAVE A COUPLE LITTLE AREAS THAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET UP THERE AND PATCH, BUT IT'S DOING PRETTY GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE NEEDING TO BE REPLACED SOON.

TENT. TENT RENTAL.

I'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED INTO BUYING.

MOVE ON.

I'M SORRY. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO GO? JUMP SOMETHING? HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

THE ONES THAT YOU THINK ARE MOST IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT.

PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON THE CITY EQUIPMENT.

PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WE'RE ASKING TO HAVE SOME MONEY TO START WORKING ON THAT AND REPLACE SOME PARTS.

VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.

WE'VE GOT TWO VEHICLES THAT WERE READY TO TRADE IN.

THAT'S AND THEN WE'RE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO ASK FOR TWO MORE EMPLOYEES, BUT BILL SAID SOMETHING DIFFERENT EARLIER, SO THE TWO VEHICLES MIGHT HAVE TO COME OFF THERE AND KEEP TWO OF THEM ON IT.

WE'LL TALK TO BILL ABOUT THAT TOMORROW.

I THINK I GOT OVERRULED, THOUGH.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL THE BIG DOLLAR ITEMS. BAKER AND JORDAN CENTERS.

DID WE? THAT IS A A MONEY THAT IS A A MATCH FUND WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE.

THEY SAID THAT THEY'D PUT A $100,000.

AND IF WE WOULD PUT IN $100,000 AND DO SOME IMPROVEMENT, THAT WASN'T EVEN MY BUDGET.

THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT. OKAY, YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT'S CONTRACTED OUT.

YES. YOU KNOW, OUTSOURCED TO THAT.

AND THEY WOULD PUT FORTH $100,000 IF WE PUT IN $100.

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YES. SO COULD WE NOT USE UTILIZE SOME OF THAT MONEY FOR THE ROOF REPLACEMENT THEN? THAT WASN'T THE THE DEAL AS I HEARD IT, WE HAD I PUT THE ROOF REPLACEMENT IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN I THINK KEVIN HAD HAD THEY HAD TO BE SEPARATE.

OKAY. THAT WAS IT'S INTERIOR WORK.

OKAY. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EXTERIOR.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IN A NUTSHELL.

I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE EXPLAINING TO DO ALONG THE WAY, BUT THAT'S THAT'S IT.

ALL RIGHT, MR. WILLIAMS. MR. MARTIN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. AND, MR. MAYOR, THAT WILL CONCLUDE THIS WORKSHOP.

OKAY. SO WE WILL ADJOURN.

AND FOR OUR GUESTS APOLOGIES, WE'RE RUNNING BEHIND, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, A QUICK RECESS.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.