Oct 28, 2024 Commission Meeting

YOU READY? YES, SIR.

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[CALL TO ORDER]

DEAR LORD, AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY, WEEK SHY OF A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, LET US TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND REFLECT ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE ALL SHARE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TO OUR COUNTRY.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR GOD GIVEN FREEDOMS, THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

AND WE ARE THANKFUL THAT WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE OUR VOICES ARE HEARD THROUGH DEMOCRACY.

WE PRAY FOR CIVILITY AS WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR ROLES AS EDUCATED VOTERS AND CIVIL SERVANTS, AND THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT LIES BEFORE US.

THIS IS A TIME WHEN OUR VOICES CAN SHAPE THE FUTURE OF OUR LOCAL AND OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT OUR DECISIONS IMPACT NOT ONLY OUR PRESENT, BUT THE GENERATIONS TO COME.

MAY WE ALL BE GUIDED BY YOUR HOLY AND WONDROUS WISDOM AND DIVINE INTEGRITY.

IT IS IN YOUR HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS NAME THAT WE PRAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, DATED OCTOBER 28TH, 2024, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? IT WILL OPEN THE MEETING WITH SOME MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE, THE MINUTES STAND AS SUBMITTED.

LET'S SEE. WE ALSO HAVE ITEM ONE B APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE EMERGENCY BRIEFING ON HURRICANE MILTON HELD ON OCTOBER 9TH, 2024.

ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THESE MINUTES? OKAY. HEARING NONE, THE MINUTES WILL STAND AS SUBMITTED.

NOW WE'LL MOVE TO COURTESY OF THE FLOOR FOR OUR VISITORS.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

BUT IF YOU'LL STATE COME UP WHEN YOU'RE CALLED AND STATE YOUR NAME.

AND START AND WE HAVE A CLOCK.

IS OUR CLOCK WORKING AGAIN? YES. YOU JUST CAN'T HEAR IT WHEN IT RUNS OUT OF TIME.

OKAY, YET? ALL RIGHT.

MARCIA OTTEY.

GOOD EVENING ELECTED OFFICIALS OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

MY NAME IS MARCIA OTTEY.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE PARADISE COVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND A RESIDENT OF 604 PARADISE COURT, WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF MAYPORT ROAD.

I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT THE LACK OF PROPER DRAINAGE IN PARADISE COVE.

THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH ACQUIRED THE LAND AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS WEST OF MAYPORT ROAD, SOUTH TO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD IN 1996.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT IN THE YEARS 2001 TO 2002, FIVE YEARS AFTER THE INCORPORATION OF THIS AREA BY ATLANTIC BEACH.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT BUILT BACK IN THE 1950S.

AT THE TIME OF THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSES, THE CITY ENGINEERS EITHER FAILED TO APPROVE ADEQUATE DRAINAGE PLANS FOR THE BUILDER OR IMPROPERLY MAINTAINED THEM SINCE. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AN ATLANTIC BEACH ENGINEER STOOD IN MY DRIVEWAY AFTER A HEAVY RAIN WEARING RUBBER BOOTS.

HE SAID WE HAD A PROBLEM, BUT DON'T COUNT ON GETTING IT FIXED.

THE DRAINAGE DITCHES SUPPORTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT DEEP ENOUGH, AND THEY LACK SUFFICIENT FLOW

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MY DRIVEWAY WILL OVERFLOW UP TO MY GARAGE DOOR.

WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE WHEN MY HOUSE FLOODS? I LOVE DUCKS, BUT NOT SWIMMING IN MY DRIVEWAY AFTER A HEAVY RAIN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS ODDIE.

STEPHANIE CARTER.

HI, I'M STEPHANIE CARTER AND I LIVE IN PARADISE COVE AS WELL.

I'VE LIVED THERE 20 YEARS.

BOUGHT IT SEPTEMBER OF OH FOUR.

WE'VE HAD DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. MY DRIVEWAY IS ALSO ON THE SAME SIDE ON KESTNER, NOT ON PARADISE COURT, BUT WE'VE HAD ISSUES ALL ALONG.

KESTNER IN THE DRIVEWAYS.

FORTUNATELY MINE IS UP INSTEAD OF HAVING THE DIP, BUT THEY ALSO PUT IN A DRAINAGE PIPE IN BETWEEN.

MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBORS RAN ALL THE WAY FROM KESTNER UP TO THE FRONT OF PARADISE COURT.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT DRAINS TO ON KESTNER, BUT EVEN IN SPORADIC SHOWERS, KESTNER AT THAT AT THE DEAD END, FLOODS EVERY DRIVEWAY ALONG KESTNER FLOODS FOR PARADISE COVE AND THE DRAINAGE DITCH IN FRONT. IF WE HAVE AN INSURMOUNTABLE AMOUNT OF RAIN, IT FLOODS TREMENDOUSLY.

WHEN WE JUST HAD THE SCARE AND THE TORRENTIAL RAINS.

THE WATER WAS COMING UP OVER MY FENCE AND THE BOTTOM OF THE FENCE.

I KNOW THAT WE ARE ON THE SCHEDULE TO HAVE OUR DRAINAGE DITCHES CLEANED OUT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN AND IT'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM.

SO WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE TO BE PUT ON THE RADAR TO HAVE THEM CLEANED OUT THE CULVERTS, ALL THE CULVERTS.

AND I KNOW STEVE AND MY OTHER NEIGHBOR AMANDA HAVE TAKEN NUMEROUS PICTURES AND SENT THEM IN, SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS CARTER.

STEVEN CURTIS.

YES, MY NAME IS STEVEN CURTIS.

I LIVE AT 613 PARADISE COURT, AND I SENT SOME PICTURES THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

AND SCOTT WILLIAMS RESPONDED THAT HE HAS PLANS IN PLACE.

NOTHING TO START OUT.

HE HASN'T GIVEN US A DATE YET.

BUT I THANK YOU FOR THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW LONG THEY'VE LIVED THERE.

I WAS INTERESTING, IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE MAPS EVEN NOW AND LOOK AT MARCIA OTTEY'S PLACE, 604 PARADISE COURT.

GOOGLE MAPS TOOK PICTURES IN MAY OF 2004.

YOU COULD SEE IT WAS JUST AFTER A THUNDERSTORM AND THERE IS FLOODING ON KESTNER AND PARADISE.

THAT WASN'T THE BIG ONE.

SO, YOU COULD IMAGINE WHEN THERE'S A BIG ONE, HOW YOU KNOW WHAT DIFFERENCE IT MAKES.

AND WE DEFINITELY NEED JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE OF FIRST ALONG MAIN STREET THE FLOODING, THE ACTUAL FLOODING THE ACTUAL DRAINAGE IS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN MAIN STREET ALL THE WAY TO LIBBY ROAD, WHERE THERE'S A HUGE DITCH ON THE ROAD, BUT IT JUST NEVER IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET TO THAT DITCH, SO WE DEFINITELY NEED WORK ON THAT.

AND THEN PARADISE COURT IS INTERESTING IN THAT THE FLOODING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TOWARDS THE INTERCOASTAL BUT IT ACTUALLY TURNS AROUND AND GOES DOWN KESTNER TOWARDS MAIN AND THEN DOWN MAIN SO THAT WE ALSO HAVE SOME DRAINAGE DITCHES THAT NEED TO BE CLEANED OUT.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. CURTIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OKAY. DID ANYBODY NOT REGISTER THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WE'RE GOOD. OKAY, THEN WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COMMISSION.

THE FIRST ITEM WHICH ISN'T ON THE AGENDA.

I'M GOING TO REHASH THE DATES.

SO I DIDN'T GET ANY REVISED DATES FROM ANYBODY.

THE DATES THAT WERE PRESENTED WAS JANUARY 25TH, APRIL 19TH, JULY 19TH, AND APRIL 18TH.

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BUT WE HAVE TIME IF YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM OUT ON THE CALENDAR BECAUSE THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THEM ON EACH 90 DAY CALENDAR GOING FORWARD SO THAT THEY'RE ALWAYS THERE BEFORE EVERYBODY.

OKAY, MAYBE JUST MAKE A SUGGESTION.

THERE WILL BE A NEW MEMBER.

SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS TO CHECK WITH THEIR SCHEDULE AS WELL? POTENTIALLY. THE CHALLENGE IS I THINK THAT THAT NEW CALENDAR WILL COME OUT IN DECEMBER.

SO I MEAN, I LEAVE THAT UP TO THE COMMISSION IF THE DATES.

I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU LIKE TO BE AT ALL OF THEM.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE THERE.

THE APRIL 19TH ONE IS EASTER WEEKEND.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A PROBLEM.

DO WE NORMALLY HOLD IT ON EASTER WEEKEND? WELL YOU'RE NOT.

RIGHT.

SO MAYBE WE TABLE THAT.

YEAH, MAYBE WE TABLE THAT.

AND I'LL PESTER YOU ALL THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME DATES WE CAN SETTLE ON.

SO WITH THAT ITEM, MR. MAYOR, I'LL MOVE ON TO THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

ON AT ADELE GRANGE.

AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ACCEPT THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO ACCEPT? OH, GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER.

THE HAUNTED HOUSE IS NOT LISTED.

THE ATLANTIC BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT HAUNTED HOUSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S MESSAGE PRETTY WELL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN OVER THERE, BUT IT'S THEY'RE WELL ON THEIR WAY.

BUT IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

CORRECT? IT IS STILL HAPPENING.

EITHER THAT OR HE OWES ME A LOT OF CANDY.

I GAVE HIM THE GOOD STUFF.

I MOVE, WE APPROVED THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

OKAY, I'LL JUST TAKE A CONSENSUS.

DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS? YES, CONSENSUS. OKAY, SO THEY'RE DONE.

LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE B, OUR FRIENDS FROM FIORENTINO GROUP.

I ALWAYS HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT, MARTY.

BUT WHOEVER'S GOING TO PRESENT.

COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR FORD FOR HAVING US COMMISSION AND, MR. KILLINGSWORTH BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR INTO IT, I DO WANT TO LET YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, YOU ALL HAVE FANTASTIC STAFF.

THAT WITH STEVE, KEVIN, BILL AND HIS TEAM WHO TAKE VERY TECHNICAL FORMS AND MAKE IT EASY AND MAKE THE JOB EASY ON US.

MY NAME IS DAVIS BEAN.

I'M A PARTNER AT THE FIORENTINO GROUP.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS HERE TODAY THAT I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, MARTY FIORENTINO.

PARTNER, MELISSA LANGLEY BROWDY.

OUR MANAGING PARTNER, JOE MOBLEY IS IN THE CROWD TONIGHT.

AND OUR NEWEST HIRE, EARL JONES, IS WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL.

WE ALSO HAVE A TALLAHASSEE OFFICE.

CODY MCLEOD, ALSO A RECENT HIRE FROM THE DESANTIS ADMINISTRATION, IS IN OUR TALLAHASSEE OFFICE.

IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO REPRESENT ATLANTIC BEACH.

WE'VE BEEN ON THE TEAM SINCE 2019.

AND SO TONIGHT, I FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT OUR PAST EFFORTS.

AND THEN LOOKING AHEAD 2025 SESSION AND WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES.

SO TALKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR I THINK MAYBE ONE TOO MANY.

THERE. THERE YOU GO.

OUR TEAM, WE TRACK HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ISSUES EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

ONLY PRESENTED THREE HERE THAT WERE KIND OF THE MOST TALKED ABOUT IN ATLANTIC BEACH CIRCLES.

WE'VE PASSED OUT A PACKET THAT IS AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS IT.

THE COMMISSION HAS IT. IT'S MORE IN DEPTH OF EVERY SINGLE ITEM THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE YEARS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY VACATION RENTALS IS A HOT TOPIC AND IT IS ACROSS THE STATE.

IN 2019, WHEN WE FIRST CAME ON BOARD, WAS KIND OF THE BIGGEST FIGHT FOR ATLANTIC BEACH, AND THAT WAS AROUND THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

AND SO THE INITIAL ITERATION OF THE VACATION RENTAL AIRBNB BILL, IF YOU WILL, OVER IN TALLAHASSEE, DID HAD TAKEN THAT PROTECTION OUT AND YOU ALL HAD THE FORESIGHT TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS FROM WAY BEFORE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE OF 2011.

AND SO THROUGH EFFORTS AND AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS ALL OVER, AND YOU ALL ARE MEMBERS OF THEM, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB REPRESENTING

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SO THE VACATION RENTAL BILL IN 2019 FACED A HUGE UPHILL FIGHT IN THE SENATE.

WE MADE SURE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DELEGATION MEMBERS AT THE TIME, SENATOR DEAN AND REPRESENTATIVE BYRD IN 2019, KNEW THE CITY STANCE ON THAT ISSUE, AND THAT BILL ULTIMATELY DIED IN A SENATE COMMITTEE MOVING FORWARD.

AND IN 2020, THEY TOOK THE BASICALLY WHERE THEY HAD LEFT OFF IN 2019.

AND THAT WAS THE STARTING POINT FOR THE BILLS MOVING FORWARD.

SO FROM 2020 ON, ALL THE VACATION RENTALS AND THE BILLS INCLUDED THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE.

FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING WE WERE ON TOP OF AND MADE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE AT EVERY COMMITTEE STOP.

BUT SINCE THEN, ATLANTIC BEACH IS PROTECTED.

OBVIOUSLY, NO VACATION RENTAL BILL HAS PASSED.

THE FARTHEST IT'S GONE IS THIS YEAR.

IT PASSED THE LEGISLATURE.

ULTIMATELY, GOVERNOR DESANTIS VETOED IT.

SO THE STATUS QUO IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP ALL THE TIME AND I'M SURE WILL COME UP AGAIN.

ANOTHER ISSUE WAS THE LEGISLATION RELATING TO SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES AND BEACHES IN 2022, HOUSE BILL 105 BY REPRESENTATIVE FINE PASSED, AND WE ADVOCATED ON THAT TO ROLL BACK THE PREEMPTION ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE CHOICE IF YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITY SO WISHED TO BAN SMOKING IN PUBLIC PLACES AND THE BEACH, AND I BELIEVE ATLANTIC BEACH DID TAKE THAT ON.

YOU ALL ARE ALL LISTED ON THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WEBSITE.

AS A CITY WHO'S TAKEN PART IN THAT.

AND THEN A THIRD BIG ISSUE WAS LEGISLATION RELATING TO LOCAL TREE ORDINANCES THAT'S BEEN HEAVILY TALKED ABOUT IN THIS COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITIES AROUND THE STATE.

IN 2019, PREEMPTION WAS PASSED IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN RESPONSE TO STORM AND STORM CLEANUP IS WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT, WHERE CITIZENS WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING THEIR PROPERTY CLEANED UP, AND SO ON.

THESE LOCAL HOME RULE ISSUES TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL HAVE A BAD ACTOR, A MUNICIPALITY.

AND SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, BEING GENTLE, THE LEGISLATURE WILL TAKE A HAMMER AND PREEMPT THE ENTIRE STATE.

THE GOOD NEWS ON THAT IS THAT IN 2022, SENATOR BRODER HAD A BILL THAT WE HELPED ADVOCATE FOR THAT ROLLED BACK SOME OF THOSE PREEMPTIONS AND CLARIFIED AND DEFINED IN STATUTE AND CLEARED UP SOME OF THE AMBIGUITY ON THAT ISSUE.

THESE LOCAL HOME RULE ISSUES ARE THEY TAKE PLACE ALL THE TIME.

AND I KNOW, MAYOR FORD, YOU'VE BEEN HONORED BY THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR BEING AN ADVOCATE.

YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT TEAM OVER THERE, AND WE'RE A PART OF THOSE CALLS.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS HEARING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

AND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, IF SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR POPS UP, WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER, YOUR STAFF, THE MAYOR WHO'S ALWAYS WATCHING AS WELL, AND ADVOCATE YOUR POSITION WITH OUR DELEGATION AS WELL AS THE LEGISLATURE AS A WHOLE.

SOME WORK WE'VE DONE WITH STATE AGENCIES, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, OBVIOUSLY, GIVEN OUR LOCATION HERE ON THE BEAUTIFUL COAST WE'VE SOME ACTION ITEMS WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IN THE 2022 ACCIDENT, MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS A CLEAR LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CITY, THE STAFF AND DEP SO THAT THERE WAS A CLEAR, CONCISE PERTINENT INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE TO YOU ALL TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THE WATER QUALITY GRANT APPLICATION IS ONE WE'RE WORKING ON CURRENTLY, AND WE'LL GO MORE INTO APPROPRIATIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT BOTH REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL, SENATOR YARBOROUGH, HAVE YOUR DEP APPLICATION.

WE ARE CURRENTLY ADVOCATING FOR THAT THROUGH DEP.

AND JUST LAST WEEK WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, PAUL RENNER, WHO'S A GREAT FRIEND OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND A GREAT FRIEND TO NORTHEAST FLORIDA, TO WEIGH IN ON THE ISSUE ON YOUR BEHALF AS WELL.

FOR FEMA, WE'VE IN THIS IN THE PAST HAVE HELPED CLEAR THE BACKLOG OF REIMBURSEMENTS FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR STATE MONEY.

AND OUR APPROPRIATIONS WAS TIED UP DUE TO SOME OVERSIGHT AT FEMA.

HAPPY TO MAKE THE CONNECTION WITH CONGRESSMAN RUTHERFORD AND CLEARED THAT UP SO THAT YOU ALL COULD RECEIVE YOUR FUNDING.

THIS IS A REVIEW OF OUR APPROPRIATION EFFORTS.

AND THE TACT WE HAVE TAKEN IN THE PAST IS THAT APPROPRIATIONS WAS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE LET POLICY GO TO THE SIDE.

BUT TALLAHASSEE, IT'S A DELICATE GAME OF CHESS.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE TACTICAL IN HOW HARD YOU PUSH ON CERTAIN THINGS.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOUR TEAM MONITORS THAT.

WE LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE COMING ON THE HORIZON.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LET OUR LOCAL DELEGATION MEMBERS KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE ISSUES.

LET THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES TAKE THE LEAD.

BUT OF COURSE, IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE THAT IS OVERWHELMING NEEDED TO BE PUSHED FOR THE CITY ATLANTIC BEACH, WE WERE ALWAYS JUMP ON THAT.

BUT SO WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THIS APPROACH FOR A ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE AQUATIC GARDENS PROJECT.

SO WE'VE GONE THROUGH FOUR PHASES OF IT.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN UNLIMITED NEED, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO WATER PROJECTS, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

SO WE'VE TAKEN SEVERAL BITES OUT OF THE APPLE HERE FOR A TOTAL OF OVER $1.8 MILLION SINCE WE'VE REPRESENTED YOU ALL.

IT'S A IT'S A COMPLEX GAME, AS WE MENTIONED.

IT'S A YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO BE TACTFUL.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR WE'VE REPRESENTED YOU ALL.

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UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE HAD TWO VETOES.

BUT GIVEN THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE HAD AND, YOU KNOW, ONE WAS A COVID YEAR WHERE EVERYBODY, NOBODY WAS SPARED.

AND THEN THIS MOST RECENT YEAR, WE HAD TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY VETOED.

BUT IN THE VETO MESSAGE, DESANTIS SPECIFICALLY SAID HE HAD TO VETO PROJECTS THAT HE REALLY LIKED.

AND THE REASON GIVEN WAS BECAUSE OF THAT WATER QUALITY GRANT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY IS THAT OVER TIME, WHAT WE CALL WATER PROJECTS HAVE GROWN GREATLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. OBVIOUSLY UNLIMITED NEED.

AND SO THEY'VE CREATED GRANT PROGRAMS IN DEP TO REPLACE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE WAS DOING.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WOULD CALL, YOU KNOW, FREE GRAB TO HELP LOCAL COMMUNITIES.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE CAUGHT UP IN THAT, AS WERE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES.

BUT HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET GOOD NEWS SOON FROM DEP ON THE WATER QUALITY GRANT PROGRAM.

ANOTHER AVENUE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL ON BEHALF OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

THE THIRD PROGRAM, WHICH I SAW IN YOUR MINUTES THAT YOU ALL HAD APPROVED A GRANT APPLICATION FOR ANOTHER ONE HERE I BELIEVE THAT WAS LAST MEETING IN 2022.

IT'S A RANKED LIST THAT COMES OUT.

AND AT THE TIME WHEN WE GOT THE CALL THE ATLANTIC BEACH PROJECT WAS NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED AT THE FUNDING LEVEL.

WE WORKED WORK TO SECURE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS SO THAT THE DONNER PARK.

I BELIEVE SPLASH PAD WAS INCLUDED AS WELL.

AND SO JUST A LITTLE LOOK AHEAD OF THE TIMELINE OF WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE AT.

OBVIOUSLY A BIG ELECTION IS COMING UP, BUT IN LATE NOVEMBER, THE LEGISLATURE WILL CONVENE FOR AN ORGANIZATIONAL SESSION AND THEN FROM THERE, COMMITTEE WEEKS WILL TAKE OFF, MOST LIKELY APPROPRIATION FORMS. WE DON'T HAVE A DATE YET, BUT MOST LIKELY GIVEN THE SCHEDULE WILL BE IN JANUARY, AND THEN WE'LL HIT THE GROUND RUNNING IN MARCH WHEN SESSION KICKS OFF 60 DAYS, 60 DAY LEGISLATIVE SESSION. MOST OF THE BUDGET WORK TAKES PLACE THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF SESSION, AND SO WE'LL KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IN APRIL AND THEN OFF TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO PROTECT OUR MONEY AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AS A GENERAL OVERVIEW FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT.

OBVIOUSLY, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'RE READILY AVAILABLE AND THE WAY WE'VE WORKED IN THE PAST IS THROUGH THE MAYOR, THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT ALWAYS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY PHONE CALLS OR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

BUT WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MAYOR IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

CERTAINLY. COMMISSIONER.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR CONCENTRATING ON THE THINGS THAT WE CARE ABOUT.

WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T RELATE TO THE BEACHES SO THAT IT'S NOT AT ALL HELPFUL.

WHAT IS THE STATUS OF HB 60 AND THE WATER, TREATED WATER PROBLEM? YEAH, AND SO THIS IS ONE THAT CITY ENGINEER STEVE SWANN HAS BEEN ALL OVER AND SO IT'S A KNOWN ISSUE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DATE COMING UP AND IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE FISCAL IMPACT ON MUNICIPALITIES, JUST LIKE YOU ALL.

AND SO THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, AN EFFORT TO BUILD A COALITION TO ADDRESS THAT.

I KNOW SENATOR ALLBRITTON UPCOMING SENATE PRESIDENT DOWN IN THE OKEECHOBEE AREA IS AWARE OF IT.

WE WERE JUST WITH THEM RECENTLY, AND WE'RE BRINGING TALKING POINTS TO HIM ON THE ISSUE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WHERE A LOT OF YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

AND SO A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND THE IMPACTS THAT IT WILL HAVE.

AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN A BIG ISSUE FOR YEARS WITH YOUR STAFF.

SO I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IT WHERE IT KICKS IN IS NOT CLEAR.

AND WE ARE CERTAINLY ON THE SIDE OF A SMALL, YOU KNOW, SMALLER BUDGET THAT DOESN'T HAVE DOESN'T SEEM TO MATCH THAT.

YES. NO. AND IT'S, IT'S A POINT THAT WE MADE.

AND I THINK IN THE LEGISLATION ITSELF, IT CLARIFIES THAT, YOU KNOW, CITIES WITH AN OPERATING BUDGET OF 10 MILLION ARE EXEMPT.

WELL, WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE IMPACT ON CITIES THAT ARE LARGER THAN THAT TOO.

AND SO WORKING TO POSSIBLY EXPAND THAT.

IF IT'S THE WATER BUDGET OF 10 MILLION, WE'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT.

THE BUDGET TO RUN A LITTLE TOWN LIKE THIS IS NOT 10 MILLION.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE GENERAL FEELING? ONE OF OUR CITIZEN INDIGNITIES, IF YOU WILL, IS THE PROLIFERATION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

THE SPEED AT WHICH THEY'RE OPERATED AND THE AGE AT WHICH PEOPLE OPERATE THEM.

IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY CLARIFICATION OR MOVEMENT FROM TALLAHASSEE TO HELP US WITH THAT? THERE WILL BE. AND SO THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, ISSUE ON THE RISE.

THEY'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT GOLF CARTS.

THEY'VE DONE SOME LEGISLATION ON THAT.

I BELIEVE YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES, WHICH IS THE NEW TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

I KNOW COMMISSIONER CHRISTMAS IS COMING.

YEAH, I KNOW, AND CHRISTOPHER COMMISSIONER BOLE, I SAW YOUR COMMENTS ON IT AS WELL FROM YOUR TIME WITH THE FLC THERE IS.

AND SO THERE WAS A BILL IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST YEAR THAT UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T GET TO THE FINISH LINE THAT WAS GOING TO ALLOW YOU ALL TO ROLL BACK.

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AGE RESTRICTIONS BEING ONE OF THE MAIN TALKING POINTS THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

BUT I KNOW VICKY LOPEZ, DOWN FROM SOUTH FLORIDA, WAS A REPRESENTATIVE PUSHING THAT.

REP MCFARLAND WAS ON THAT AS WELL.

AND BOTH HAVE SAID THAT THEY LOOK TO BRING THAT BILL BACK THIS YEAR.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO LEND THEM SOME WEIGHT IS OUR AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE? IF SHE HAD THIS, CAN SHE HELP WITH THOSE KIND OF THINGS? SHE ABSOLUTELY CAN. AND SO REPRESENTATIVE MICHAEL IS A GREAT ADVOCATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

THERE'S NOBODY CLOSER TO THE GOVERNOR.

ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT HER, SENATOR YARBOROUGH ARE ALL AWARE OF THE DUVAL DELEGATION AS A WHOLE.

IN THE PAST WE'VE COME TO YOU ALL AND DONE.

YOU ALL HAVE DONE RESOLUTIONS FOR ISSUES THAT RISE TO THAT LEVEL.

AND GIVEN THAT THIS ISSUE SEEMS TO BE THERE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU ALL HELP US GET US A RESOLUTION SIGNED BY YOU ALL.

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL POSITION.

YOU ALL ARE NOT ALONE.

A GOLF CART, COMMUNITIES, LOCAL COASTAL COMMUNITIES.

IT'S A GREAT WAY TO THE LAST MILE, POINT A TO POINT B, BUT YOU ALL ARE THE BEST DECIDERS OF HOW TO REGULATE THESE THINGS.

AND SO THERE IS A PUSH IN TALLAHASSEE TO ROLL BACK SOME OF THOSE PREEMPTIONS AND GIVE YOU ALL THE POWER.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ASSIST GET THAT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

MY LAST QUESTION IS HOW MUCH RESPECT DOES THE LEGISLATURE HAVE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LEAGUE OF CITIES? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ON THE RISE, AND FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS A GREAT ADVOCATE.

LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE SOMETIMES BAD ACTORS FROM CERTAIN PARTS OF THE STATE THAT PROBABLY GO TOO FAR.

AND SO THE LEGISLATURE'S ONLY RECOURSE IS TO BRING IN A HAMMER AND PREEMPT EVERYBODY.

AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE TALKING POINTS FOR YEARS, OVER YEARS HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HOME RULE, HOME RULE.

AND THEY'RE TAKING IT AWAY AND THEY MOST LIKELY PROBABLY HAVE.

BUT I DO THINK ON ISSUES LIKE THIS, YOU'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, STRONG LEADERS IN THE LEGISLATURE, SENATOR BRODER, SENATOR GRUTERS TAKE ON ISSUES OF UNWINDING SOME OF THOSE PREEMPTIONS. SO IT'S PROBABLY NOT HAPPENING FAST ENOUGH.

BUT I DO THINK THERE IS A SHIFT IN TALLAHASSEE.

AND THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT GOVERNMENT IS BEST AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU'RE THE CLOSEST TO THE PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT IS SLOWLY CHANGING, BUT IT IS CHANGING.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? I WELL, YOU KNOW, THE DUVAL DELEGATION IS COMING UP.

HAPPY TO SHARE THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YOUR DELEGATION, YOUR GO TO WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM ON YOUR ISSUES AS WELL AS A LOT OF OTHERS.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SAY THANK YOU, AND THINGS GO WELL AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WHEN WE DISAGREE.

AND SO THAT'S ON US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RELAY THAT MESSAGE FROM YOU ALL.

AND HAPPY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

YES, COMMISSIONER. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO COMMISSIONER KELLY.

THAT HOUSE BILL 60, THE MUNICIPALITY OF 14,000.

RIGHT. CAN YOU TAKE VARIOUS FLORIDA CITIES? THAT IMPACTS OUR BUDGET TO THE EXTENT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PAY THAT BILL FURTHER DOWN THE LINE? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE, WHAT ARE THE PRESSURE POINTS? IS IT THE SMALLER CITIES GETTING TOGETHER AND GOING FORWARD IN THE LEGISLATURE AND SAYING, HEY, WE CAN'T AFFORD THE $30 MILLION OR $40 MILLION? IS THIS GOING TO TAKE AS A COMMISSIONER? I'M SURE THE MAYOR FEELS THE SAME WAY.

I DON'T WANT TO KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

RIGHT, RIGHT. I MEAN, THAT'S STRANGE.

THAT IS STARING US IN THE FACE.

SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE DO? BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS A BILL THAT WE CAN'T PAY, RIGHT? WELL, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, I DO THINK IT'S A COALITION OF SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES, SMALLER COUNTIES IN, IN I BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE.

THE, THE FISCALLY CONSTRAINED COUNTIES ARE PULLED OUT.

THERE ARE SOME THAT I THINK IT'S A $10 MILLION CAP.

EVERYBODY GETTING TOGETHER.

YOU SEE MOVEMENT ON ISSUES, ON ALL KINDS OF THINGS, WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER RELATED OR, YOU KNOW, RECENTLY THERE WAS A COUNTY COMMISSION TERM LIMIT BILL AND THE SMALL COUNTIES GOT TOGETHER AND WERE SUCCESSFUL IN HOLDING THEIR VIEWPOINT TO THE LEGISLATURE AND WERE SUCCESSFUL IN REMOVING SOME OF THE PROVISIONS FOR SMALL COUNTIES.

I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO GO AND HAPPY TO DO THAT.

I KNOW THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES IS ON IT, ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AS WELL.

THIS IS I WILL SAY AND AGAIN IT'S A BIG ISSUE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT ALREADY.

AND SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT FURTHER IN THE COMING SESSION.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION AS FAR AS THE FORM.

WE FILL OUT THE FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FORM.

I KNOW OUR CITY ATTORNEY IS UP ON THIS, BUT TODAY I KNOW THEY FILED SUIT AGAINST THAT.

CORRECT. SO WHERE ARE WE AT TODAY? I WOULD NEED TO. LOOK, I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU ANYTHING.

I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LAWSUIT FILED.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S AT.

AND MR. GABRIEL. YEAH.

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I HAVE TO SEE WHERE THE PERMANENT CASE, YOU KNOW, LIES RIGHT NOW.

BUT FOR ALL PRACTICAL PURPOSES, IT LOOKS LIKE THE OUTCOME OF THAT PERMANENT, THAT TEMPORARY INJUNCTION WILL PROBABLY BE THE PERMANENT YOU KNOW, CONCLUSION ON THAT, BUT IT'S STILL PENDING, AND I'LL HAVE TO CONFIRM.

AND I'M MAKING A NOTE TO GET WITH YOU ON THAT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO A FEW PEOPLE, AND THEY JUST DON'T WANT GOOD PEOPLE WHO COULD RUN FOR OFFICE ELIMINATED BECAUSE OF THAT.

THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL.

THANKS. YEAH.

AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

WE'LL DO A STATUS REPORT ON IT AS WELL.

MR. BEAN, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FIRM AND, MARTY, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE CITY.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT THE GOVERNOR'S PEN DIDN'T RUN OUT OF INK ON THAT VETO.

BUT I WANT THE COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND ALL OTHER CITIES APPLYING FOR THE SAME TYPE OF GRANT WERE VETOED, SO WE WEREN'T SINGLED OUT.

THAT WASN'T A FAILURE ON THE PART OF ATLANTIC BEACH OR EVEN OUR ADVOCATES AND JUST A LITTLE FURTHER ON THAT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.

SO OVER THE COURSE OF TIME THERE'S A POT OF MONEY AND WE CALL THEM WATER PROJECTS.

AND SO IF YOU BOTH USUALLY OUR PROJECTS ARE GIVEN THE NATURE OF THE REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, THAT POT HAD GROWN AND GROWN AND GROWN AND THERE HAD ALWAYS BEEN GROUPS OUTSIDE SAYING, HEY, WE SHOULD DO SOME TYPE OF GRANT PROCESS FOR THIS.

IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE A LINE ITEM APPROPRIATION.

BUT THOSE WERE TYPICALLY AWARDED.

WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN GETTING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT MONEY FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

IN DESANTIS REMARKS, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HE VALUES STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

WE'RE A COASTAL COMMUNITY.

BUT SAID HE VETOED PROJECTS SPECIFICALLY THAT HE AGREED WITH.

BUT HE WANTED US TO GO APPLY FOR THE WATER QUALITY GRANT, WHICH WE'VE TAKEN THEM UP ON MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK IT'S WORTH TAKING A LOOK WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S MAKE A MATRIX OF ALL THE NEEDS.

AND I DON'T THINK WE TURN AWAY FROM WATER PROJECTS BECAUSE THE NEED IS SO GREAT HERE, BUT ALSO APPLY FOR A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS SO THAT WE'RE NOT ALL IN THE WATER PROJECT LIST MOVING FORWARD. I THINK SO.

SO I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO AND FORGIVE ME, IT'S SENATE BILL 21-64 THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING ON THE TREATED WASTEWATER.

YES. SO THE THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

YEAH. SO MY QUESTION, FIRST OF ALL, IS DOES YOUR FIRM DO ANY LOCAL OR FEDERAL LOBBYING? SO YES, VERY LIMITED SCOPE WHEN YOU SAY FEDERAL OR LOCAL LOBBYING.

SO WE REPRESENT CLIENTS BEFORE THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE SOMETIMES.

WE HAVE DONE SOME FEDERAL WORK IN THE PAST THAT HAS GIVEN YOU KNOW, HOW DC AND ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGE THAT HAS GONE DOWN AS OF LATE, BUT IT'S PROBABLY, WE'RE PROBABLY AT PREDOMINANTLY 80 TO 85% TALLAHASSEE, SO I'M AWARE OF THAT.

SO KIND OF HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS KIND OF FITS INTO THE BIG TICKET COSTS OF SOLVING THAT PROBLEM BY THAT BILL THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

SO I THINK OUR CITY ENGINEER HAS GIVEN US A PRICE TAG IF WE WANT TO DO A DEEP WELL INJECTION AND RETAIN OUR UTILITY IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 50 MILLION.

LET'S JUST TAKE 40 MILLION.

AND THAT'S WHY COMMISSIONER BOLE SAID THAT'S NOT DOABLE.

WELL, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, AND YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

AND SO THERE ARE MORE AND MORE AS WE'VE GOTTEN CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THESE DEADLINES THAT ARE VARYING DEPENDING ON WHAT SECTION YOU FIND YOURSELF IN THE BILL.

SO YOU'RE SO HERE'S THE REAL QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING THAT ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TALKING STRONGLY THROUGH THEIR LOBBYISTS TO THE LEGISLATURE ABOUT STATE FUNDING AT A HIGHER LEVEL? SO IN MY MIND, I CAN'T IMAGINE IF WE DID PAY, LET'S JUST SAY 35 MILLION TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

ARE WE GOING TO GET 35 MILLION ON A GRANT FROM DESANTIS? NO. BUT IF WE COULD GET BIGGER NUMBERS THAN WHAT? YOU KNOW, THESE GRANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH ARE THREE, 500,000, THAT TYPE OF THING.

IF WE COULD GET INTO SOME BIGGER NUMBERS AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO SELL OUR UTILITY BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD BE AN END RESULT.

AND I'M, I'M NOT FOR THAT.

I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD.

I'M NEVER GOING TO SAY I'M FOR SELLING A VIABLE UTILITY THAT WE RUN VERY, VERY WELL AND PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS.

BUT WE COULD THEN BOND THE PROJECT AND ACCOMPLISH IT IF WE HAD TO.

BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

AND SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, ARE PEOPLE COALESCING TO BRING PRESSURE ON THE LEGISLATURE TO FUND THE SMALLER CITIES IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS? I BELIEVE WE ARE SEEING THAT.

AND SO THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP WITHOUT US BRINGING IT UP.

SO IT'S ON PEOPLE'S RADAR.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, THE ANSWER CAN'T BE SELLING ASSETS.

AND SO IT'S 30 TO $50 MILLION FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

WHAT'S THE STATEWIDE COST? AND ONCE WE START TALKING ABOUT THAT AND THEY START REALIZING THIS ISN'T FEASIBLE, THAT'S WHEN WE CAN KIND OF PUT LEVERAGE OUR POSITION, LEVERAGE OUR RELATIONSHIPS, AND HAVE A

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IT'S ON THE LIST FOR SURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. JUST THANK YOU FOR THE RELATIONSHIP AND GOOD.

YEAH. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND WHERE ARE YOU TAKING THE GANG? TO DINNER. YEAH, I'VE GOT A 11 MONTH OLD AT HOME.

THAT'S. AND I'M SURE MY WIFE'S WONDERING WHERE I'M AT NOW, SO WE GOTTA GET BACK.

BUT I OWE THEM ONE.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT TEAM OVER THERE, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE ON THE ATLANTIC BEACH TEAM.

OBVIOUSLY SPECIAL TO ME.

AND SO HAPPY TO REPRESENT YOU ALL.

WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN. PLEASE REACH OUT IF WE CAN EVER BE HELPFUL.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ALONG. LET'S GET BACK.

OKAY, SO ITEM FOUR REPORTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS TODAY.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE CONTRACT.

BUT THAT'S NOT YET.

SO WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER WATERS.

THANK YOU. I KNOW WE ALL GOT AN EMAIL FROM LENNY JEVIC ABOUT A MARINE THAT COMMITTED SUICIDE, TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.

AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING ON WEDNESDAY WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT ISSUES.

AT THE VETERANS PARK.

ONE IS THE FALLEN HERO MONUMENT THAT I KNOW SCOTT WILLIAMS HAS GONE OUT, AND I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR FUNDING FOR THAT.

AND GET THAT GET THAT CLOSE.

BUT WHEN I READ THIS EMAIL FROM LENNY IT JUST KIND OF HIT HOME BECAUSE I HAVE I HAVE A LOT OF PATIENTS THAT ARE VETERANS, AND I HAVE NOT HAD, KNOCK ON WOOD, ANYBODY TAKE THEIR LIFE.

BUT I DO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT THERAPISTS THAT I HAVE SEE VETERANS ON A PRETTY REGULAR BASIS.

AND IT IS A LOT HIGHER RISK OF SUICIDE IN VETERANS OVER 50% HIGHER.

BUT MY QUESTION IS THAT I WAS HOPING A MAN WAS GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT AS A COMMISSIONER AND SOMEONE THAT REALLY WANTS THIS OTHER ISSUE TO BE, TO BE ADDRESSED AND TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT LENNY WAS ASKING FOR, AND I CALLED HIM AND TALKED TO HIM AND BASICALLY THIS THIS GENTLEMAN, SERGEANT RANDALL D HANSON, FLETCHER GRAD, PARENTS WERE MARINES, TOOK HIS LIFE AND LENNY WAS ASKING FOR IN THE VETERANS PARK TO HAVE A TREE A TREE PLANTED IN HIS HONOR.

AND HE WAS TOLD THAT THAT THAT COULDN'T BE DONE OR NOT.

HE JUST DIDN'T REALLY GET A REALLY GREAT ANSWER ON THAT.

SO THEN HE SAID, WELL, WHAT ABOUT IF I HAVE A LITTLE MONUMENT PLACED BETWEEN THE 102 OAK TREES THAT FRAMED THE US MARINE CORPS BENCH IN THE, IN THE VETERANS PARK.

AND I JUST IF WE CAN'T FIND AN ANSWER TO IT TONIGHT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO ADDRESS ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, SCOTT WILLIAMS AND ALL OF ATLANTIC BEACH HAS DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THAT VETERANS PARK WITH THE BRICKS AND ALL OF IT, YOU KNOW.

AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

AND THIS IS A THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM.

AND I JUST AM HERE TO STATE THAT I JUST HOPE IT GOES FORWARD AND WE GET AN ANSWER TO WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THESE VETERANS THAT HAVE THAT HAVE THAT HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIFE. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER RING. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAYPORT FLYOVER.

I SAW THE MARQUEES AND HEADING NORTH AND THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED.

AND THEN TODAY I SAW THAT IT WAS BLANK.

I DO HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORS WHO ARE CURIOUS WHAT IS GOING ON, SO I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THE CLOSURE? WHAT'S THE TIME FRAME? WHAT ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION WITH THE COMMUNITY? IT'S NOT JUST ATLANTIC BEACH THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED.

I WOULD GATHER THAT NORTH BEACH, WHICH IS JACKSONVILLE AREA, ALONG WITH NEPTUNE WOULD ALSO BE AFFECTED.

AND WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING CLOSED? IS IT JUST THE FLYOVER TO MAYPORT OR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OR ARE THEY CLOSING THE.

ATLANTIC BOULEVARD RAMP TOO, AND THEN I ALSO HAD WANTED TO JUST MENTION THAT OBVIOUSLY, THE

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IT'S NEXT TUESDAY.

WE STILL HAVE EARLY VOTING.

POLLS ARE OPEN 7 A.M.

TO 7 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

IT IS OPEN EIGHT TO FIVE.

SO PLEASE GO AND VOTE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

MR. KELLY. YEAH.

IF I MAY ON, IN TERMS OF THE FDOT KEVIN'S TEXTING ME SAYING HE HAS FLYOVER INFORMATION, SO I WILL SEE WHAT HE HAS BEFORE I ADD ON OR SAY SOMETHING WRONG IF THERE'S A WAY WE CAN PUBLICIZE THAT ON THE CITY WEBSITE, I THINK WE CAN.

HI. KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

ON OUR WEBSITE, WHICH I'M READING FROM, WE SAY NIGHTLY CLOSURES OF MAYPORT ROAD FLYOVER PLAN.

THIS IS FROM DOT BECAUSE WE STARTED GETTING QUESTIONS.

DOT SAYS NIGHTLY CLOSURES OF THE FLYOVER ON ATLANTIC ARE SCHEDULED TO BEGIN ON NOVEMBER 17TH AT 8:30 P.M.

UNTIL 5:30 A.M.

NIGHTLY FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, THAT MOTORISTS CAN USE THE RAMP ONTO FLORIDA BOULEVARD AND THEN TAKE A LEFT ONTO MAYPORT DURING THE CLOSURE.

THE DATE, OF COURSE, IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, AND WE'LL POST UPDATES ON FACEBOOK AND ON OUR WEBSITE IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES.

YES. SO THEY PUSHED IT BACK TO NOVEMBER 17TH BECAUSE I THINK THE INITIAL DATE SAID OCTOBER 28TH, I SAW LAST WEEK.

WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT IS THAT THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY SAW IN A SIGN.

BUT WHEN I ASKED DOT, THIS IS THE INFORMATION THEY GAVE ME, IS THAT ARE THE MARQUEES THAT THEY HAVE? IT'S AT THEIRS.

IS THAT FDOT'S OR IS ARE THOSE OURS? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THEIRS.

OKAY. THANKS.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER BOLE.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO SAY HATS OFF TO THE CITY STAFF.

KEVIN. AND I KNOW THAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS INVOLVED.

I THINK WE LEARNED A LESSON OR A HURRICANE AS FAR AS PICKING UP THE TRASH EARLY AND AGGRESSIVELY.

EVERYBODY I'VE TALKED TO SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE A WIND EVENT, AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE AS FAR AS TREE BRANCHES, RUBBISH AND I THINK I THINK YOU GUYS WERE PROACTIVE, AT LEAST AT THAT TIME.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT LESSON.

AND I IT JUST REINFORCED WHAT I THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT HAUL OUR TRASH.

I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER TRASH HAULERS, THEN THOSE GUYS, THEY DO A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER KELLY. YEAH.

I'D LIKE I'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR LEADS RENEWAL.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE PRETTY PROUD OF BEING THE FIRST AND HAVING OUR SILVER AND THEN OUR HAVING OUR GOLD.

BUT I HAVE KIND OF A FEELING THAT WE'VE LOST THE FORWARD MOMENTUM AND THAT CARRYING OUT THE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN FOR TO SUPPORT LEADS IS MAYBE FALLING BEHIND A LITTLE.

SO COULD WE HAVE A REPORT ON THAT NEXT TIME.

YOU MAY. AND SINCE YOU TALKED TO ME AT THE TOWN HALL, I'VE TALKED TO AMANDA AND SHE'S GOING TO PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE WHITE PAPER FOR ME ON WHAT SHE THINKS IT WILL TAKE IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME AND AND MONEY.

OKAY. WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM SEVEN, A APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

[7.A. Appointments and Reappointments to Various Boards and Committees]

AND I JUST PULLED OUT THE NAMES SINCE I CHAIRED THAT COMMITTEE, THE BOARD MEMBER REVIEW COMMITTEE.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU WHO'S BEING REAPPOINTED AND WHO'S NEW APPOINTED AND WHAT THEIR ROLES ARE.

SO ON THE CDB KIRK HANSON IS REAPPOINTED FOR LET'S SEE THAT'S FOR TWO MORE YEARS OR NO, IS THAT THREE YEARS? YEAH. THERE ARE THREE. YEAH.

AND ELLEN GOLOMBEK ALSO CDB IS BEING REAPPOINTED FOR THREE YEARS.

TIM ANDERSON IS BEING APPOINTED TO THE POLICE.

THAT'S THE PENSION BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

OKAY. AND SO THAT'S A NEW APPOINTMENT OR A REAPPOINTMENT, I'M SORRY.

ON NEW APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE THREE ACTUAL BOARD MEMBER APPOINTMENTS AND IN ONE OR ACTUALLY WE HAVE TWO AND THEN TWO ALTERNATES.

BUT I'LL EXPLAIN.

ON THE ARC WE HAVE JOSHUA CRUZ AND DESMOND BROOKS, THESE ARE NEW APPOINTMENTS.

FOR THE GENERAL PENSION BOARD APPOINTMENT.

WE HAVE A, AN ALTERNATE AND WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ALTERNATE, WE DID THIS JUST SO THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE QUEUE, BUT NORMALLY AN

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AND IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC THAT HE WOULD SIMPLY MOVE UP IF, IN FACT, A AN OPENING OCCURRED.

BUT IT'S INTENDED TO GROOM SOMEBODY AND HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE BENCH.

AND THEN FINALLY, CURTIS WINNER WILL BE AN ALTERNATE ON THE ARC, AND HE WILL, IN FACT HAVE VOTING RIGHTS IF SOMEBODY IS ABSENT FROM A GIVEN MEETING. SO THAT EACH OF THOSE OCCURS IMMEDIATELY ON THE EFFECTIVE DATE.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REAPPOINTMENT, THE APPOINTMENTS, AND REAPPOINTMENTS TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REAPPOINT AND APPOINT MEMBERS AS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

STAFF REPORT. SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

COMMISSIONERS. I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THREE OPENINGS ON ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND THAT THERE WERE THREE APPLICATIONS.

SO I'M WONDERING WHY THEY DIDN'T GET APPOINTED DURING THIS BOARD MEETING.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH? SURE. SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY STANDARDIZING USC, AS WELL AS REVISITING THEIR MANDATE SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE DIRECT INTERACTION BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND THE PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PUSH FORWARD AND THOSE PRIORITIES THAT USC IS WORKING ON.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'RE GOING TO WORK MAN DOWN.

I DON'T EXPECT THAT THERE WILL BE A MAN DOWN BY THE TIME THE YEAR IS OVER.

NOT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

AYE. OPPOSED? THAT MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. LET'S SEE.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 24.

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 24-55]

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING RENEWAL OF EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE AS WELL AS OTHER INSURANCE BENEFIT PLANS, AND AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO EXECUTE ALL RELEVANT DOCUMENTS.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AGAIN, GOOD EVENING.

COMMISSION. SO THIS IS OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES.

AS YOU KNOW, WE BUDGETED 15% INCREASE IN THIS ITEM.

WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A 9% INCREASE.

AND I THANK CATHY FOR THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONALLY, THAT'S ABOUT AN 18 TO 21% INCREASE.

WE MAINTAIN THE SAME RATES FOR DENTAL VISION, SUPPLEMENTAL LIFE AND SHORT TERM DISABILITY.

OUR LONG TERM DISABILITY, WHICH IS 100% PAID BY THE EMPLOYEE, WILL INCREASE BY 4%.

SO IN THE END TO THE CITY, WE ENDED UP SAVING 6% OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED.

AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2455.

THANK YOU, MR. KILLINGSWORTH.

JUST CURIOUS. THAT 6% EQUATES TO HOW MUCH IN DOLLARS ARE YOU NOW? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

DO YOU KNOW CATHY? CATHY BERBERIAN, THE, I ALMOST SAID MY LAST NAME, MY WRONG LAST NAME.

HR DIRECTOR.

I DON'T, THE TOTAL IS ABOUT 150.

INCREASE. NO, I, I WANTED TO SAY LIKE 60 OR 70,000.

IS IT THAT MUCH ON THE SAVINGS FROM WHAT WE BUDGETED TO WHAT IT IS? NO, I THINK THAT'S THE OTHER. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE I THINK IT'S 10 OR 12,000.

OH, IT'S A SMALL NUMBER.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW.

THANKS. AND YES, I WAS GOING TO SAY IF IT COULD WE REBATE THAT BACK TO THE EMPLOYEE SINCE WE'VE ALREADY BUDGETED IT.

WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED OTHER AREAS THAT WE'LL BE VISITING WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT MONEY.

ONE OF THEM INVOLVES POTENTIALLY THE BEACH FIRE PERMITS AND HOW WE COVER.

WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED CHANGES ON HOW WE ISSUE BEACH FIRE PERMITS.

AND WITH THOSE RECOMMENDED CHANGES COME SOME RECOMMENDED ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES AND WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE FUND THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

I JUST OKAY. KATHY, CAN I JUST ASK YOU A REAL QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MUCH LIFE INSURANCE EMPLOYEES GET? THEY GET $50,000 OR UP TO UP TO ONE YEAR SALARY OR 50,000, WHICHEVER IS LESS.

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THE STATE GIVES 25 NOW.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY WE HAVE GREAT BENEFITS.

I THINK THEY'RE WORTH MORE THAN THAT.

BUT YEAH WE'LL ADDRESS THAT LATER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BERRIEN.

OKAY. WHERE ARE WE AT HERE? SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? NO, WE DIDN'T GET A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2455.

SECOND. OKAY. NOW WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

MOVING TO EIGHT B, RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-56.

[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 24-56]

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ANY CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION.

I MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2456.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE. ARE THEY GOING TO REPAIR THE ROAD FROM SOUTH ATLANTIC BOULEVARD TO WEST SEVENTH STREET ON A1A? YEAH. SO THE THAT'S PART OF THE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT, RIGHT? SO I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. NO, I INTERRUPT YOU.

PLEASE GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE EASEMENT, I THINK, IS PRINCIPALLY IN LOOKING AT THE EASEMENT AND THE PURPOSE BEHIND THE ACTUAL EASEMENT DOCUMENT ITSELF.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SO THAT THEY CAN PUT IN A TURN LANE INTO A PLAZA.

THE TURN LANE OFF OF MAYPORT ROAD.

YEAH. TURNING RIGHT ONTO PLAZA.

RIGHT. OKAY. TURNING RIGHT ONTO THE PLAZA.

BUT IS IT ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE THE WEST SIDE OF MAYPORT ROAD? SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT CONVERTING IT FROM A FOUR LANES DOWN TO TWO LANES.

RIGHT. I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PLANS YET, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS BASED ON WHAT I HEARD IS THAT ON THE EAST SIDE IS A MULTI-USE PATH, AND ON THE WEST SIDE IS A BIKE.

BIKE LANES. OKAY.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

SO IS THIS PART OF THE LARGER MAYPORT IMPROVEMENT PLAN? THIS IS THIS IS JUST PART OF IT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START WITH THE EASEMENT ON PLAZA ROAD, CREATING A TURNING LANE THERE.

NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S OR IT'S PART OF THAT PROJECT.

BUT IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START THERE.

THE EASEMENTS FOR THREE YEARS.

SO WHEN THEY DO IT WILL FALL WITHIN THE TIMELINE OF WHEN THEY DO THE COMPLETE STREETS PROJECT.

I THINK WHAT TRIPS ME UP HERE IS THAT IT MENTIONS PLAZA WEST OR EAST PLAZA ROAD, AND THEN IT MENTIONS ATLANTIC BOULEVARD WEST, SOUTH WEST SEVENTH STREET, WHICH ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE ROAD MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT'S CONFUSING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION THAT THAT WAS ATTACHED.

IT'S JUST THE EAST SIDE OF PLAZA IS WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE PLANS, BECAUSE THOSE PLANS AREN'T MENTIONED HERE IN THIS PORTION.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

CORRECT? I DO HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE MULTI USE PATH BEING ON THE EAST SIDE AND NOT THE WEST SIDE.

OKAY. AND COMMISSIONER THIS IS JUST FOR THIS EASEMENT.

WE CAN BRING THAT UP IN COMMENTS.

OKAY. IF YOU WISH. AND THEN I AND I'M FINE I'LL TABLE THAT UNTIL WE GET THERE.

I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO BE ASSURED EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S MENTIONED HERE.

MAYPORT ROAD TO WEST FROM ATLANTIC TO WEST SEVENTH STREET.

WE'LL BRING THAT BACK OR I'LL LET YOU BRING THAT BACK LATER.

OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS RESOLUTION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

NINE A, ORDINANCE NUMBER 31-24-17 PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING.

[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 31-24-17, Public Hearing and Final Reading]

COUNTY OF DUVAL, STATE OF FLORIDA.

TRANSMITTING PROPOSED EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REPORT BASED AMENDMENTS TO THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND ALSO TRANSMITTING A NEW MAP SERIES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S VARIOUS AGENCIES FOR REVIEW AND COMMENT.

PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF SAID YEAR BASED, EAR BASED AMENDMENTS AND NEW MAP SERIES.

UPON RECEIPT OF SAID COMMENTS AND COMPLETION OF THE STATE COORDINATED REVIEW PROCESS.

PROVIDING FOR PURPOSE AND INTENT, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MAYOR. I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF AND THEN I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO AMANDA.

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DURING THAT TIME, WE ADOPTED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 24 TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAD SENT TO THE STATE, AND THAT HAS COME BACK FROM THE STATE. FROM COMMENTS AMANDA IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE I THINK THERE'S TWO COMMENTS.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND THEN AND HOW WE ADDRESS THEM.

AND WITH THAT I WILL GIVE IT TO AMANDA.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING. AMANDA ASKEW, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING.

AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH FIRST READ.

IT'S GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE INPUT FROM COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD.

SO WE'RE HERE AT SECOND READ.

AND PRIOR TO SECOND READ, WE TRANSMITTED THIS DOCUMENT TO VARIOUS AGENCIES AS REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE AND TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.

THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE CAME BACK WITH A TWO COMMENTS ON THERE THAT ARE ADDRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE FIRST WELL, BOTH COMMENTS HAVE TO DO WITH ESTABLISHING MEANINGFUL AND PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

AND ONE OF THEM WAS RELATED TO NONRESIDENTIAL INTENSITY STANDARDS, AND THEY WERE AMENDED IN POLICY A.1.5.9. IN OUR ORIGINAL TRANSMITTAL TO THEM, WE REMOVED THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FOR COMMERCIAL STANDARDS.

WE JUST ADDED THAT BACK.

AND WE WENT AHEAD AND SENT OUR PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, AND THEY'VE GIVEN US A HEAD NOD.

YES, THEY WILL COME BACK.

THE SECOND COMMENT THAT THEY HAD WAS ON OUR ACTUALLY ON OUR WETLAND PROTECTION AREA THAT WE NEEDED MEANINGFUL AND PREDICTABLE STANDARDS.

SO WE ADDED THE SAME LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE IN CHAPTER 24.

AFTER TONIGHT, IF IT'S APPROVED, WE WILL TRANSMIT IT BACK TO THE STATE FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL ON THE STATE, AND IT WILL BE ADOPTED.

I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I HAVE ONE. ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THE NAME OF THE NEW PARK, OR IS THE NAME OF THE OLD PARK? YEAH. WE WILL HAVE TWO MARVIN GARDENS, YOU KNOW, SO ON THERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SUBMITTED IT.

YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE FOR SURE.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

DONNA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? I HAVE NONE. THEN HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION, COMMISSIONERS.

I DO HAVE ONE. MAYBE IT'S BEST FOR AMANDA.

IS THERE ANY FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS WITH THE STATE FROM THIS? NO, THEY ACCEPT IT.

AND. BUT THIS IS JUST OUR PLAN.

THEY ACCEPT OUR PLAN.

IS THAT. IS THAT HOW IT WORKS? YEAH. SO THE PENALTY FOR HAVING A COMP PLAN OUT OF COMPLIANCE, ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T ADOPT NEW LAND USE CHANGES, WHICH FOR ATLANTIC BEACH WOULDN'T BE MUCH OF A PENALTY BECAUSE WE DON'T CHANGE OUR LAND USE MAP VERY OFTEN.

THE BIGGER THE BIGGER HAMMER.

IS THAT ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS ON EVERY GRANT THROUGH THE STATE THAT YOU APPLY FOR IS, IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLIANT? OKAY. AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO, THEN YOU YOU'RE OUT OF THE HUNT.

I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR MONEY.

OKAY, THANKS. IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU MONEY, BUT IT GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR MONEY.

UNDERSTAND? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 31-24-17.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 31-24-17.

SECOND. COMMISSIONER KELLY IS SECONDED THE MOTION.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM 11.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS]

SO ON THAT CASE, THE FORM SIX DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENT CASE IS WHAT I THOUGHT THE LAST MOVEMENT ON THAT WAS BACK IN THE SUMMER, IN JUNE, WHEN THE FEDERAL JUDGE PUT A TEMPORARY INJUNCTION ON THE CASE.

SO THAT'S AS FAR AS I CAN TELL.

THE LAST REAL POINT ON THAT.

BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN REACH OUT TO THAT FORT LAUDERDALE ATTORNEY THAT DID THE CLASS ACTION, JAMIE COLE, AND FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON.

I MEAN, I ANTICIPATE ONCE AGAIN THAT THAT'LL BE THE END OF IT, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF MANEUVERS ARE HAPPENING THAT YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE ONLINE.

YEAH, SOMEBODY ASKED ME ABOUT THAT.

JUST CURIOUS. THANKS.

THANK YOU. DONNA.

ANY COMMENTS? I HAVE NOTHING, THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT. CLOSING COMMENTS.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

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THANKS. OKAY.

COMMISSIONER RING. I JUST HAD QUESTIONS STILL ABOUT PLAZA ROAD THING.

CAN I ASK THEM HOW WILL IT IMPACT THE RESIDENTS ON PLAZA ROAD? AND HOW WILL THEY BE NOTIFIED OF RECLOSING BOTH SIDES OR ONE SIDE? AND ARE WE LOOKING AT STARTING IN 26? WELL, SO YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER.

HEY, WE WON'T BE DOING THE WORK.

IT'LL BE FDOT.

LOOKING AT THE SKETCH THAT THEY ATTACHED, IT LOOKS LIKE IT COVERS THE TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON MAYPORT AND THEN THE APARTMENTS.

AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE I THINK IT'S ONE RESIDENTIAL HOUSE ON THE NORTH, BUT THAT'LL BE DONE THROUGH FDOT, RIGHT? WELL, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE ROAD MAY BE TEMPORARILY CLOSED.

AND BY TEMPORARY I MEAN LIKE 15, 20 MINUTES WHILE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THERE, BUT I DON'T AT THIS POINT.

I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT THE ROAD IS GOING TO BE CLOSED FOR A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD OF TIME.

AND REALLY. SO NOTHING IS GOING TO BE DONE ON, ON MAYPORT ROAD FROM SEVENTH STREET TO ATLANTIC BOULEVARD, ALTHOUGH THAT IS LISTED HERE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING TOUCHED.

THE EASEMENT ISN'T FOR THAT.

OKAY. SO ON MAYPORT ROAD, THAT OWNS ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY THERE.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK US FOR THE EASEMENT.

RIGHT. SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE DOING ON MAYPORT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK, THOUGH.

THEY ARE GOING TO ASK US WHETHER OR NOT WE SUPPORT IT BEFORE THEY PROCEED.

YOU KNOW, THEY OWN THE ROAD SO THEY CAN DO WHAT CHANGES THEY NEED TO DO THERE.

AND THEN THE 36 MONTHS BEGIN WHEN I JUST READ IT AND I JUST DROPPED IT.

IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, I CAN LOOK IT UP SOON.

HOW ABOUT SOON? WE'LL JUST GO WITH IT.

NOTHING IS SOON MAYOR IN GOVERNMENT? NO, NO, NO, THE EASEMENT STARTS PRETTY SOON.

YEAH. SO IT'S 36 MONTHS FROM THE TIME I SIGN IT.

OKAY. AND THEY MAY BE MONTHS BEFORE THEY DO ANYTHING.

RIGHT. EASEMENT. IT'S JUST A 36 MONTH EASEMENT.

SO. OKAY.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOLE.

YEAH. I JUST I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT COMMISSIONER WATERS SAID ABOUT THE TREE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HERITAGE TREES AROUND THE CITY, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.

[INAUDIBLE] THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE COULDN'T PUT SOME, SOME LANGUAGE SOMEWHERE THAT WOULD SAY, HEY, ONCE A YEAR, YOU KNOW, A TIME FRAME WHERE WE GO OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HONOR THESE PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, BUT WE SHOULD FORMALIZE THAT SO THAT IT'S FAIR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL DECIDE WHICH WAY TO GO BECAUSE WE DO THE SAME THING WITH HERITAGE TREES.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME THAT WE WOULDN'T DO THAT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

I HAVE NOTHING.

THANK YOU. WELL, EXCEPT THAT I GOT, LIKE, MIDDLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS RIDING THEIR ELECTRIC BIKES TO SCHOOL IN THE MORNING, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S PARTICULARLY SAFE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH.

SO GIVEN THAT TWO COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT UP VETERANS PARK.

SO, YOU KNOW, I GOT AN EMAIL FROM LENNY.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WHETHER OR NOT I GOT THE SAME ONE THAT YOU GUYS GOT.

WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT WE DIDN'T SAY NO TO RECOGNIZING THIS MILITARY VETERAN OR ANY MILITARY VETERAN. THE ASK, AT LEAST WHEN THE ASK WAS BROUGHT TO ME, WAS FOR A TREE AND A MONUMENT.

WE DISCUSSED IT, AND THAT IS WHERE WE CAME DOWN ON IT WAS, WELL, THIS PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE THE FIRST ASK ONCE WE DO THIS.

AND SO THEN THE DISCUSSION BECAME OKAY, SO TEN, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE HAVE TEN OF THESE MONUMENTS IN THERE, DO WE TURN WHAT IS A PARK INTO SOMETHING THAT VISUALLY LOOKS LIKE A CEMETERY? BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ASK NOT JUST FOR A TREE, BUT ALSO FOR A MONUMENT.

SO WHEN AMANDA BROUGHT IT TO ME AND WE DISCUSSED THAT, I TOLD AMANDA, GO BACK TO LENNY AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ABOUT THIS IDEA OF PUTTING UP A WALL? NOT AS FANCY AS THE ONES THAT WE'RE DOING FOR VETERANS WHO DIED IN COMBAT.

SOMETHING A LITTLE LESS GRAND THAN THAT, BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS DESIGNED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WAS CLEARLY A MEMORIAL FOR MULTIPLE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE COULD ADD ON TO OVER TIME, RATHER THAN CREATING A WALKWAY OF MONUMENTS THAT VISUALLY MIGHT LOOK MORE LIKE A CEMETERY RATHER THAN A PARK.

SO AND THAT PARTLY IS WHAT GENERATED THE CONVERSATION FOR WEDNESDAY WITH WITH LENNY AS WELL AS THE MONUMENT FOR THE FALLEN VETERANS IS HOW DO WE DO THAT? DO WE DO THAT AS A GRANT FROM THE CITY TO THEM AND THEY DO IT? OR DO WE DO THAT AS A GRANT FROM THEM TO US IN THE CITY?

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I UNDERSTAND THAT PARK HAS GOT LIMITED SPACE AND I KNOW YOU CAN'T PUT IN THERE 10 OR 20 MORE TREES.

HOPEFULLY NOT HAVE TO DO THAT.

BUT I JUST WANTED IT ADDRESSED AND QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND TRY TO FIND SOME SOLUTION TO IT.

HOWEVER WE CAN. SO THANKS, I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

I'LL FINALIZE THE COMMENTS.

WE HAVE ALREADY PASSED OUR BUDGET FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, WHICH BEGAN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.

WHAT I'VE HEARD IN THE LAST NUMBER OF MEETINGS IS STORMWATER ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SOME OF WHICH IS RELATED TO MAINTENANCE.

SO MY ASK OF THIS COMMISSION IS LET'S STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IN FRONT OF US.

IF WE DO HAVE SOME WINDFALLS WHERE WE CLAW BACK $10,000 OR $50,000 OR WHATEVER FROM THE CURRENT BUDGET, LET'S TRY TO FOCUS THAT MONEY, ASSUMING THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE.

FOCUS THAT MONEY ON MAINTENANCE.

BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, I CERTAINLY HAVE LEARNED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS WE ARE A CITY OF DITCHES.

SO THAT'S OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR STORMWATER.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PIPES IN THE GROUND TOO, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF DITCHES.

WE'RE A FLAT PIECE OF LAND.

THE COMMENT THAT THINGS DON'T DRAIN VERY QUICKLY IS UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE IT'S FLAT OR FAIRLY FLAT.

SO, I JUST WANT TO IMPLORE THIS COMMISSION TO STAY FOCUSED ON SOLVING THE STORMWATER PROBLEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO NOT, NOT INSUFFICIENT MAINTENANCE AND WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY FINAL COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.