Nov 12, 2024 Commission Meeting

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ALRIGHT. BEFORE I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, WOULD YOU JOIN ME IN THE KITCHEN WITH AN INVOCATION AND PLEDGE?

[CALL TO ORDER]

ESPECIALLY WE ASK THAT YOU COMFORT THE FAMILY.

THE RAWLINGS FAMILY.

FORMER MAYOR GLASSER SISTER, ELAINE RAWLINGS, PASSED AWAY THIS WEEK, AND WE WANT TO KEEP HER IN OUR PRAYERS AND THE FAMILY AS WELL.

BLESS THIS COMMISSION THAT THEY CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD WORK FOR THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

WE ASK THIS IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

IF YOU'LL JOIN ME.

ALLEGIANCE].

THANK YOU. THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, DATED NOVEMBER 12TH, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER AND DID I? OKAY. LET'S START WITH ITEM 1.

APPROVAL. OH, I'M SORRY.

DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? DID YOU SPEAK? THESE THE SOUND SOUNDS BETTER TODAY.

IS IT CHANGED? I DON'T KNOW, MR. MAYOR. MAYBE YOU HAD A GOOD WEEKEND.

YEAH. THE SOUND IS GOOD.

OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

COURTESY OF THE FLORIDA VISITORS.

DONNA, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED IN TO SPEAK? I HAVE NO SPEAKER FORMS. OKAY, THEN WE'LL CLOSE, COURTESY OF THE FLORIDA VISITORS AND MOVE ON TO ITEM THREE.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS ]

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COMMISSION.

I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO 3A BECAUSE I HAVE A 3B AND A 3C AND A 3D.

3B IS EVALUATION.

SO THIS AFTERNOON, I BELIEVE WE EMAILED YOU A DIGITAL COPY OF THE EVALUATIONS.

ONE OF THE YES FEEDBACKS WE GOT WAS LAST TIME IT WAS A LITTLE TOO DETAILED, SO WE COULDN'T MAKE IT MUCH SIMPLER THAN THE ONE WE MAILED OUT THIS TIME. THERE IS ALSO HARD COPIES IN YOUR INBOX, IF YOU WOULD PREFER TO DO THAT AND I THINK KEVIN'S ASKING FOR THEM TUESDAY BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS.

CORRECT. SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM INTO THE AGENDA.

3C IS KIND OF THE PROCESS THAT WE ENVISION FOR SWEARING IN.

SO NEXT MEETING, THE MEETING WILL OPEN WITH THE OLD COMMISSION AND THERE WILL BE SOME WORK ITEMS ON THAT.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT TO A MINIMUM.

THE COMMISSION WILL TAKE ACTION ON THAT.

IT WILL CLOSE THAT COMMISSION WILL THEN PROBABLY TAKE A SHORT RECESS AND THEN OPEN WITH THE NEW COMMISSION, SWEAR THEM IN AND IF THERE'S ANY ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON AT THAT TIME.

OTHERWISE, IT WOULD JUST BE CEREMONIAL AND WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND THEN THE FIRST FULL WORKING MEETING OF THE NEW COMMISSION WILL BE THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING.

AND AT THIS TIME, WE TENTATIVELY HAVE THE ORIENTATION FOR THE COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 9TH AT 5:30.

IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR, DONNA? CAN WE START AT FIVE OR DO YOU THINK ONE HOUR IS ENOUGH? TWO OF THE THREE HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT BEFORE, I THINK, AND I PLAN ON DOING A ONE ON ONE WITH THE NEW ONE.

05:30? I'M GOOD WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT AND THEN ACTUALLY, THIS ISN'T ON MY LIST, BUT IT'S IN MY FOLDER.

SO WE DID CHANGE THE DATE.

SO WE STILL HAVE JANUARY 25TH AT JORDAN PARK AS A TOWN HALL MEETING.

IT'S NOW APRIL 5TH AT THE COMMISSION CHAMBERS FOR A TOWN HALL.

STILL, JULY 19TH AT BAKER CENTER AND OCTOBER 18TH AT ADEL.

SO UNLESS I HEAR ANY OBJECTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START PUBLISHING THAT ON THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO 3A , WHICH IS THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

YOU'LL SEE THIS ONE INCLUDES DECEMBER, WHICH IS A GOOD MONTH.

FULL OF HOLIDAYS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT MANY ACTIVITIES OTHER THAN THE STANDARD COMMITTEE MEETINGS DURING THAT TIME BECAUSE OF

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UNLESS THERE IS AMENDMENTS OR ADDITIONS TO THE 90 DAY CALENDAR, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACCEPT THE CALENDAR.

DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO ACCEPT THE CALENDAR AS PRESENTED? OKAY. CALENDAR IS ACCEPTED.

THANK YOU. LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE.

YOU'RE DONE. THAT'S IT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER BOLE AND COMMISSIONER REPORTS.

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS ]

I WANT TO YIELD MOST OF MY TIME TO DOCTOR WATERS TONIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW I SAW HIS LIST.

I JUST WAS AT THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY MEETING.

IT WAS ACTUALLY TONIGHT.

SOME OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE PARADE OF HOMES.

THEY MADE GOOD MONEY ON THAT.

I THINK IT WAS A REALLY GOOD EVENT.

REALLY CLASSY.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME NEW STUFF FOR CHRISTMAS.

THEY, SOME OF, YOU KNOW, THEY WENT OUT AND THEY HAD A SURFBOARD CONTEST.

THEY HAVE NEW LIGHTS, A NEW MOTIF.

STILL HAVE THE TREE LIGHTING ON DECEMBER 7TH.

THAT'LL PROBABLY BE AROUND 6PM, SOME OF YOU REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE BIG THUNDERSTORM AND THEY'LL HAVE KIDS STUFF STARTING AT 3PM ON DECEMBER 7TH.

SO THEY ARE FULL STEAM AHEAD AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME UPGRADES FROM LAST YEAR.

[INAUDIBLE]. GOLF CART.

NO PARADE. THANKS.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

I WANT TO THANK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

THE GROUNDS AND PREPARATION FOR THAT PARK WAS LOVELY.

THE OTHER DAY, THE MICROPHONE WORKED GREAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAD NEW CHAIRS, SO IT WAS VERY WELL DONE.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THAT.

YEAH VERY NICE.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. OH, AND ALSO BY THE POLICE, I NOTICED THERE'S A BUY IN ON THE ENFORCING THE BICYCLE RULES.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT POST, BUT I'M THINKING THAT SOMEBODY WHO WON'T EVEN STOP AT A STOP SIGN MIGHT NOT READ THE WHOLE EMAIL.

SO MAYBE SHORTER EMAILS.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER RING.

YES. LAST TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH, I AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS PROBABLY RECEIVED THE SAME FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION EMAIL REGARDING THE PROPOSED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS THE MAYPORT ROAD.

THIS IS SEPARATE THAN WHAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY VOTED ON THE FOR THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETING.

THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE DUBBED THE MAYPORT ROAD IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH SPANS THROUGH MAYPORT ROAD ALL THE WAY TO DUTTON ISLAND ROAD WEST.

I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US IS ALSO PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE HOLDING TWO MEETINGS, A VIRTUAL MEETING ON DECEMBER 2ND, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ONLINE, AND AT 4:30 TO 6PM.

IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, PUBLIC COMMENT THAT BEGINS AT 6, AND THEN AN IN-PERSON MEETING RIGHT HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH CITY HALL, DECEMBER 4TH AT 4:30 TO 6PM.

I DON'T BELIEVE I SAW THOSE LISTED ON OUR 90 DAY CALENDAR.

NO, THEY ARE NOT LISTED, SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION FOR THAT.

SORRY. MY APOLOGIES. I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP DURING THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE NEWSLETTER.

THE EMAIL BLAST POSTED ONLINE WITH THE LINK THAT THE CITIZENS ARE PROVIDED WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AND MYSELF WERE PROVIDED WITH.

SO WE'RE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SHARE.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER WATERS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAD TURNOUT FOR THE ELECTION, BUT I KNOW AS OF 5:00 THERE WERE LIKE 2000 PEOPLE SHORT OF ALL THE REGISTERED VOTERS IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

YEAH. THAT'S AMAZING AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY FINALLY FINISHED UP, BUT THAT WAS AWESOME.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

WHERE ARE WE? HOW IS THE LIFEGUARD STATION GOING? HOW IS IT PROGRESSING? IS IT AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO FINISH IT? I DON'T HAVE THE DATE. CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE THE DATE ON WHEN IT'S GOING TO FINISH? WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT AT DIRECTOR'S [INAUDIBLE].

SO DO YOU MIND JUST COMING UP AND GIVING THE BRIEFING? SORRY, CHIEF, I JUST HADN'T HEARD.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE WENT BY THERE TODAY AND CHECKED ON THE PROGRESS.

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THE FOUNDATION IS DONE.

THE TARGET DATE IS GOING TO BE BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF OUR BEACH SEASON.

WE'RE ON SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW.

THE HURRICANE STORMS DIDN'T SET US BACK TOO FAR.

SO WE'RE MOVING AT A GOOD PACE RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU. IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY THERE.

I WENT BY THERE TODAY. I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH WHAT THEY'VE GOT DONE.

THAT LOOKS GOOD. THANK YOU.

GOOD. CHIEF, CAN YOU COME BACK? SINCE COMMISSIONER WATERS IS DONE, AND I'M NEXT.

I ALSO WANT TO AND THANKS, COMMISSIONER.

I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR GETTING A PROCESS GOING ON COMMUNICATING ON THE BICYCLES, BICYCLE RULES OF THE ROAD AND THEN KIND OF THAT ADD ON AT THE END ABOUT E-BIKES.

SO IS YOUR DIRECTION TO THE OFFICERS TO STOP AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE MORE FREQUENTLY? IS THAT HOW THIS IS WORKING? THEY HAVE THE ORDER TO EDUCATE OR ENFORCE AS THEY SEE FIT.

YEAH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE AND GOLF CARTS, TOO.

IT'S NOT JUST THE BIKES.

YEAH AND THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOME COMPLIANCE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM WHY THEY SHOULDN'T DO THE THINGS THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE UNSAFE.

SOME ENCOURAGING NOW TO JUST EDUCATE OR ENFORCE AS THEY SEE FIT AND HOPEFULLY THAT MESSAGE GETS ACROSS.

I INVITE THEM TO COME SIT ON MY PORCH AND WATCH THE FOUR WAY AT.

WHAT IS THAT? AHERN AND SYLVAN BEHIND THE GATE.

YEAH, I MIGHT COME WATCH.

YES. I BELIEVE THAT THE DIRECTOR'S MEETING TODAY TO THE CHIEF SAID HE'S CLOSE TO SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO WORK WITH JASON ON WITH CHANGING THE E-BIKE POLICY.

EXCELLENT. AS WELL AS I DID A BIKE RODEO JUST RECENTLY THAT THE SCHEDULING OF IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE SCHOOL BOARD. CORRECT.

BUT WE DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS IDEAL.

BUT IN ANY EVENT, WE STILL DID THE BIKE RODEO THERE.

AND WERE YOU ABLE TO GET THE TURNOUT ON THE KIDS? NO, I'M SORRY, I DID NOT.

OKAY. JUST BIKE OFFICERS.

WE DO HAVE SOME BIKE CERTIFIED OFFICERS.

DO THEY BIKE? THEY DO WHEN TIME ALLOWS.

OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE MORE.

DO YOU THINK? I DO.

OR AT LEAST SEGWAYS.

YEAH, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

CHIEF, ONE OTHER THING.

I HAD NOTIFIED YOU OF THE KIDS THAT WERE RIDING THEIR E-BIKES IN BOLE PARK.

DID YOU EVER.

DID ANY OF THE OFFICERS ACTUALLY CONFRONT ANY CHILDREN, OR DID THEY JUST OBSERVE WHAT WAS DONE? WE DID AN INVESTIGATIVE WORK, AND WE FOUND OUT WHO WE THINK WAS RIDING IN THE PARK.

SO WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL OF THE KIDS IN THAT GROUP, AND THEY, I THINK ONE OF THE PARENTS, AND CONVEYED TO THEM THE CONCERN THAT IF THEY CONTINUE TO DO THAT, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

SO WE DIDN'T CATCH UP TO THE PEOPLE WE THOUGHT WERE ACTUALLY INVOLVED, JUST THE GROUP OF KIDS.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT MESSAGE GETS THROUGH THE GROUP TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.

YEAH AND SO MY FOLLOW ON QUESTION IS DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE, BUT DO WE HAVE A POLICY ON WHEN I THINK ABOUT TRADITIONAL TRADITIONAL, WHY WOULDN'T YOU HAVE A BIKE IN A PARK? RIGHT. BUT THESE WERE E-BIKES AND THEY WERE ZIPPING AND ZAPPING AND THEY WERE [INAUDIBLE] IT UP IN A FULL PARK.

I THINK THE ISSUE IS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL TERM WOULD BE, BUT, I MEAN, I WOULD CHARACTERIZE WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS DIFFERENT THAN JUST RIDING AN E-BIKE IN ONE OF OUR PARKS.

THERE WAS POTENTIALLY THE WILLFUL DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BE A CRIME.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ADDRESSING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE UP FOR COMMISSION REVIEW TO DECIDE HOW STRINGENTLY YOU WANT TO WORD THIS, BUT NOT USING E-BIKES IN PARKS IS AN OPTION AND OUR BIGGEST CONCERN, OF COURSE, WOULD BE THE FOOT TRAILS.

PUTTING THOSE E-BIKES ON FOOT TRAILS, MIXING THOSE WITH PEDESTRIANS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT YOU CAN WRITE THAT BLANKETLY TO SAY THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY MOTORIZED VEHICLES IN THE CITY PARK. YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. LET'S SEE.

WE'LL CLOSE. ITEM 4.

MOVE ON TO ITEM 8A, RESOLUTION.

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 24-57 ]

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THE WASTEWATER EFFLUENT FILTERS, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND COMMISSION.

SO AT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AT THE END OF THE STAGE BEFORE IT GOES TO REUSE THERE'S TWO SETS

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FILTERS IS WHAT THEY'RE CALLED AND WE HAD A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE, AND SO WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT.

I BELIEVE I SIGNED THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE REQUEST ALREADY.

SO THIS IS KIND OF BACKFILLING COMING TO YOU, BUT WE REACHED OUT FOR QUOTES.

WE GOT A QUOTE OF $122,207.47 FOR THE REPAIRS AND A FIVE YEAR MAINTENANCE PLAN ON THE TWO FILTERS.

WE DID NOT SOLICIT COMPETITIVE BIDS AS KRUGER, WHICH IS THE PROVIDER AS THE SOLE SOURCE OF THE EFFLUENT FILTER KITS.

I WILL ASK THAT A, I RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION SUBJECT TO THE AMENDMENT OF THE HANDED OUT RESOLUTION, WERE CHANGING THE PROJECT NUMBER IN WHICH THE MONEY IS COMING FROM TO COVER THIS COST.

SO THAT WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE RESOLUTION 24-57, AS AMENDED IN THE HANDOUT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 24- 27.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION HERE.

I WAS 57.

24-57. WHAT DID THAT SAY? I'M SORRY. OH I'M SORRY.

RESOLUTION NUMBER 24- 57.

SECOND AGAIN. OKAY, SO I'LL OPEN THE CONVERSATION.

YES, AS AMENDED.

YES, PLEASE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT? THE RED. THE RED TEXT.

SEE THIS? THEY'RE ASKING THAT IT BE CHANGED TO THE HANDOUT THAT'S BEFORE YOU.

IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION AND THEN GET A SECOND.

OKAY. YEAH. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T SEE THIS.

SO YEAH I WILL RECOMMEND THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-57 AS AMENDED.

YES. SECOND NOW WE HAVE A PROPERLY MOTIONED AND SECONDED RESOLUTION.

SO I'LL OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S JUST CURIOUS BEING WASTEWATER EFFLUENT, THERE WAS NO ENVIRONMENTAL DISCHARGE OR ANYTHING AS A RESULT OF THIS OR THAT'S THE WRONG APPLICATION.

THIS IS IN THE PLAN ITSELF.

AFTER TOBY STEPHENS, UTILITIES DIRECTOR.

NO, MAYOR, THERE WAS NOT THIS.

THERE'S TWO FILTERS AND IT'S REDUNDANCY.

SO WITH ONE DOWN, WE CAN'T DO PROPER MAINTENANCE ON THE OTHER ONE.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO OVERFLOWS BECAUSE OF THIS.

GOOD. OKAY.

THANK YOU. WELL, I JUST GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

I KNOW THIS HAS GOT TO BE DONE PRETTY ASAP.

RIGHT? YES, SIR.

I WAS READING A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE BACK-ORDERED.

IS THAT NOT GOING TO DELAY IT TOO MUCH? I THINK I FORGET WHAT THE TURNAROUND DATE WAS THERE, BUT I'VE BEEN IN, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SUPPLIER AND TOLD HIM WE HAD THIS MEETING TONIGHT, AND I WOULD CALL HIM TOMORROW AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT THE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WAS IF IT WAS APPROVED OR NOT.

OKAY. SO I'M TRYING TO GET THERE AS QUICK AS WE CAN.

NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

RIGHT NOW, DURING THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, THE REUSE HAS GONE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS USE.

SO THIS REALLY THE GREATEST TIME TO DO IT.

THIS, TIME OF THE YEAR.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE THE SEWER GUY ANYTHING HE WANTS.

ANYTHING IN THIS PLANT.

SO. OKAY, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ITEM NINE A ORDINANCE NUMBER 95-24-123.

[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 95-24-123, Introduction and First Reading]

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

COUNTY OF DUVAL, STATE OF FLORIDA.

AMENDING SECTION 5-3.

LIGHTING OF FIRES OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF SAID AMENDMENTS.

PROVIDING FOR PURPOSE AND INTENT.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT.

PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR [INAUDIBLE].

GOOD EVENING. COMMISSION.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW COMMUNITIES THAT ALLOW FIRES AT THE BEACH AND OUR PARENT CITY SLASH COUNTY NEWS MEDIA LAST YEAR DID US A FAVOR OF ADVERTISING THAT FACT.

SO OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE GONE FROM 200 FIRES A YEAR PERMITTED FIRES, NOT THE NON PERMITTED, WHICH IS PROBABLY ANOTHER 50% ON TOP OF THAT.

BUT WE WENT FROM 200 TO 300 TO 600 FIRES LAST YEAR.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE IT IN A WAY THAT ALSO MANAGES OUR RISK PROFILE, BUT ALSO MANAGES THE ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY OF THE BEACH AND RECOGNIZES THAT WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS ON THE BEACH.

SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS IT CHANGES THE PERMIT FEE FROM 25 TO $75.

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SO IF WE HAVE IF AN OFFICER HAS TIME, HE WILL GO OUT AND DO THAT.

SO THAT EXTRA $50 AVERAGED OVER A TEN FIRES A NIGHT DURING THE SEASON WILL PAY FOR AN OFFICER TO BE OUT THERE FROM THE FIRES ARE PERMITTED FROM 6 TO 10, AND WE EXPECT TO HAVE AN OFFICER OUT THERE FROM 7 TO 11.

PERMITTED FIRE HAS TO HAVE THE PERMIT AT THE FIRE SO THE OFFICER CAN CHECK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A PERMITTED FIRE.

WE'RE ALSO REQUIRING A REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT OF $150 TO RECOUP PUBLIC WORKS COSTS, SHOULD THEY NOT CLEAN IT UP AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WILL NOT COOPERATE WITH US AND HAS A FIRE THAT IS NOT PERMITTED, IT GRANTS A CITATION OF $500 AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 9524-1-23.

I HAD A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, I'VE WALKED THROUGH THERE.

HOW OFTEN? YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THE FIRE PIT AND THE EMBERS AND THE REST OF THAT.

IS THAT A BIG PROBLEM? I MEAN, I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY JUST WALK AWAY FROM THE FIRE, WHETHER THEY BROUGHT STONES AROUND IT OR WHATEVER.

IN THE PAST, HAVE WE GONE AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT JUST LEFT THE SITE? AND WE HAVE NOT GONE AFTER THE PEOPLE IN THE PAST? ONE, IT'S DIFFICULT TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW, IT WAS A PERMITTED ONE OR NOT.

YEAH. BUT THAT'S PARTLY WHAT THE WE THINK 150.

150,000? YEAH.

WE'D HAVE NO BEACH FIRES.

$150 MAY BE A GOOD IDEA.

$150 DEPOSIT IS MEANINGFUL ENOUGH TO DO IT.

I WILL SAY, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY PERMITTING FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER.

NOW. WE'RE GOING TO PERMIT DECEMBER AND LATER ASSUMING THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPTS THIS ORDINANCE BASED OFF THESE RULES.

BUT WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND INSTITUTED THE $150 DEPOSIT, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

IS THAT CORRECT, KEVIN? I MEAN, THAT SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH.

WHERE AT $150, THEY'LL CLEAN UP THE SITE BEFORE THEY LEAVE.

SO NEPTUNE AND WE REQUIRE THEM TO TAKE PICTURES OF THE SITE CLEAN OKAY TO GET THEIR DEPOSIT.

SO NEPTUNE DOESN'T HAVE A.

YOU CAN'T BUILD A FIRE IN NEPTUNE.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PLACE ELSE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA THAT ALLOWS FIRE.

OKAY, THANKS. WELL, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS.

YEAH. EVERY WAY. AGREED.

I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY ARE THERE NONE? WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE A FIRE ON, LIKE, ATLANTIC AND AHERN AND SEVENTH, 15TH AND 19TH ACCESSES LIKE 19TH? I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THE BIGGEST. IT'S THE BIGGEST ACCESS AS FAR AS ACCESSIBILITY.

HOW COME WE CAN'T HAVE FIRES ON THOSE PARTICULAR STREETS? SO THOSE ARE OUR EMERGENCY BEACH ACCESSES.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES WE CAN DRIVE A VEHICLE DOWN.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. YEAH.

IF WE HAD THERE ARE SOME FOUR WHEEL DRIVE RESCUE VEHICLES AND THEY'RE PRETTY BIG.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE ONE OF THOSE ACCESSES.

GOTCHA. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RING.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT POSTING SIGNS AND SIGNAGE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST A SIMPLE NO BONFIRES WITHOUT PERMITTED OR NO UNPERMITTED PERMITTED BONFIRES.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE SIGNS OUT THAT WAY WHEN THEY COME AND THEY, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THEIR PARTY AND THEIR EQUIPMENT TO START THE FIRE, THEY'RE AWARE THAT WE CAN WORK ON THAT.

OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN.

ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 95-24.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 95- 24- 123.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LET'S HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

SO THERE'LL BE A SECOND READING TWO WEEKS ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME.

OKAY. IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

OPPOSED? DONNA THAT WAS UNANIMOUS.

MOVING TO ITEM 9B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 20-24- 174.

[9.B. ORDINANCE NO. 20-24-174, Introduction and First Reading ]

AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA FOR A FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU AGAIN.

ORDINANCE 20-24- 174 IS THE ANNUAL CLEANING UP OF LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WHERE WE MOVED FUNDS FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER TO BALANCE OUT THE BUDGET.

I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I DO WANT TO DISCUSS IS I WASN'T GOING THROUGH, BUT I THINK I WILL.

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EXCUSE ME? WHAT WE BUDGETED TO PAY OUT TO PENSIONERS HAS BEEN UNDER UNDERFUNDED.

BUT THE RETURN, AT LEAST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THE LAST FEW DAYS HAS BEEN IN EXCESS OF THAT.

SO IT HAS NOT BEEN A NEGATIVE TO THE FUND ITSELF AND THE OTHER IS THE STORMWATER FUND.

THERE WAS MONIES THAT WAS BUDGETED AS REVENUES FROM LOCAL LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX FUND, BUT IT WASN'T BUDGETED AS A EXPENSE AND SO THERE WAS A SHORTFALL THERE.

BUT WE'RE I GUESS THE POINT OF THAT IS THE STORMWATER FUND WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD WE HAD THE BALANCE AT THE TIME WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET, I WOULD HAVE SAID IT WAS $100,000 FURTHER IN THE HOLE.

SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM THERE.

HOPEFULLY BY INCREASING THE REVENUE THERE AND ADJUSTING IT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR WILL HELP AT LEAST NEUTRALIZE THAT BUDGET.

WITH THAT, I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADOPT ORDINANCE 20-24-17.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I RECOMMEND WE ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 20- 24- 174.

SECOND. COMMISSIONER WATERS, YOU GET THE HONORS OF THE SECOND ON THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

[11. CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS]

CITY ATTORNEY.

AS WE ARE APPROACHING THE END OF THE YEAR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO TELL US? NOT YET, BUT I WILL BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

THANK YOU. THANKS.

CITY CLERK. DONNA.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. THANK YOU.

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE TO CLOSING COMMENTS.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

OH, OKAY. WELL, I DON'T HAVE A LOT, BUT I DO WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK DOC WATERS FOR WHAT HE'S DONE.

WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER HERE FOR FOUR YEARS.

I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO HAVE A FULL TIME JOB.

I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING A DOCTOR WITH A FULL TIME JOB AND DOING THIS.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME. SO I PUBLICLY WANT TO THANK HIM.

WE DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE, BUT SOMETIMES WE DID.

SO THANK YOU BRUCE.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER KELLY.

WELL IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF IS CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

YOU'RE IN THE REAL WORLD.

I MEAN, I'M RETIRED.

I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE VESTED INTEREST IN HOW THIS COMES OUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CANDACE.

COMMISSIONER RING.

WELL, I WOULD BE REMISS NOT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITY AND I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE LAST TWO YEARS BEING ON THIS COMMISSION WITH YOU, MIKE. WE HAVE ONE MORE.

ONE MORE MEETING.

THANK YOU. JESSICA. COMMISSIONER WATERS, HANG ON ONE SECOND TO SAY ANYTHING NEXT WEEK OR IS IT IS NOW THE MINUTE? NO. OKAY, GOOD.

YOU'VE GOT TIME.

BUT I LET TO SPEAK NEXT BECAUSE WE'RE ON A THREAD HERE.

SO I ONLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU FOR TWO YEARS AND JUST DELIGHTED TO HAVE BUILT THE RELATIONSHIP, THE FRIENDSHIP AND YOU ARE TRULY A SERVANT LEADER.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR ATLANTIC BEACH AND I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE FINAL WORD ON CLOSING COMMENTS.

OKAY. I JUST I'LL SAY MY GOODBYES NEXT WEEK, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I FORGOT TO ASK EARLIER.

WHEN IS THE SUNSET ON THE STOCK COMMITTEE AND WHEN AND DO THEY ARE THEY GOING TO PRESENT SOMETHING TO US AT THEIR END OF IT IN A COMMISSION MEETING, OR ARE THEY JUST GOING TO GIVE US THE THROUGH THE MAYOR? COMMISSIONER WATERS? I BELIEVE THE STOCK COMMITTEE TERMINATED YESTERDAY? YESTERDAY? YESTERDAY WAS THE LAST DAY THEY ARE TRANSITIONING INTO A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE VISION ZERO CONSULTANT.

SO THEY HAVE PROVIDED THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON PARKING, WHICH WE ARE WHICH IS IN THE QUEUE TO BE BROUGHT FOR YOU IN TERMS OF ORDINANCE CHANGES.

AND THEN AS THEY, ALONG WITH SOME SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS FROM FDOT AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WILL ADVISE THE CONSULTANT ON HOW WE CAN INCREASE OUR TRANSPORTATION SAFETY WITHIN THE CITY TO STRIVE TO REACH A GOAL OF ZERO FATALITIES WITHIN ATLANTIC BEACH AND IS THIS IT FOR THEM? IS THIS IT, OR IS THERE GOING TO BE A RENEWAL FOR STAFF COMMITTEE FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR NOT? WELL, THAT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO THE COMMISSION.

BUT WHEN THEIR WORK WITH THE VISION ZERO CONSULTANT IS OVER, THEY WILL BE DONE IN TERMS OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, I IMAGINE THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO CONTINUE.

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AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADD ON TO THAT.

IT'S MY INTENT NOT TO EXTEND OR REINSTATE THEM FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AT THIS TIME, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS NEW ROLE AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IT. HOW DO WE JUSTIFY THEM IN THIS NEW ROLE, IF NOT BY THE VOTE OF THIS COMMISSION? SO WHAT THEY WOULD SERVE AS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE? I GUESS AT THIS POINT, UNLESS THE COMMISSION RECONSTITUTES THEM, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS NECESSARY, THEY WOULD JUST SERVE AS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY THE CITY MANAGER ALONG WITH THE OTHER SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS AND THEN THEY WOULD EXIST UNTIL THE REPORT IS COMPLETED BY THE CONSULTANT AND PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION.

THANK YOU AND SO, TO FULLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I MAY COME BACK TO THIS DAIS, TO THIS COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE AND ASKED TO RECREATE AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

IT COULD BE CALLED THE STOP COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING ELSE.

I THINK THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE, BUT AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT MR. KILLINGSWORTH HAS HIRED, WE'LL JUST ROLL WITH THAT FOR NOW.

THEY ARE STILL A SUNSHINE, AND WE'LL STILL NOTICE MEETINGS STILL REQUIREMENT FOR MINUTES, AND THEY'RE STILL A SUNSHINE COMMITTEE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE A COMMITTEE TO ME, BECAUSE THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY WILL ROLL UP TO YOU.

SO UNLESS JASON FEELS OTHERWISE, I THINK YOU SAID IT BEST.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN UNTIL THE RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

COMMISSIONER. WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH.

I'M GOOD FOR THE NIGHT, SIR.

OKAY. SO MY FINAL COMMENTS ARE KIND OF A ADD ON TO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT OUR ELECTION PROCESS AND THE TURNOUT.

WE HAD AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TURNOUT.

OF COURSE, WE SAW THAT THROUGHOUT THE BEACHES AND PROBABLY THROUGHOUT THE STATE, MAYBE EVEN THROUGHOUT THE NATION.

BUT I BET THIS COMES IN AS A RECORD TURNOUT FOR VOTERS IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

I BELIEVE IT WILL.

BUT EVERYTHING WENT SMOOTHLY.

I WENT TO EACH OF THE PRECINCTS AND I EVERYTHING JUST WENT REALLY WELL AND THIS TIME, IF YOU RECALL, TWO YEARS AGO, SOMEBODY FORGOT THE THUMB DRIVE FROM THIS PRECINCT.

SO THE VOTE WAS NOT FINISHED UNTIL LATE IN THAT EVENING.

BUT THIS YEAR IT WENT VERY WELL.

WITH THAT, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? MAYOR, COULD YOU TALK FOR ANOTHER 28 MINUTES OR 27? NO, I'M AFRAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT ON THIS ONE, MR. BOLE. THIS IS THE ALL TIME RECORD.

IN FOUR YEARS. IT WAS 38.

WELL, WE JUST. MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT STATS.

YEAH, 33 MINUTES.

SO WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.