[00:00:03] WELCOME, NEIGHBORS, RESIDENTS AND GUESTS. BEFORE WE OPEN THIS MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR WHOM WE FIRST SERVE. BLESS THIS MEETING AND GIVE US GUIDANCE FOR A PATH FORWARD IN THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY, AS WE DELIBERATE ON THE MATTERS BEFORE US TONIGHT. MAY WE FIND CLARITY IN OUR PURPOSE AND STRENGTHEN OUR RESOLVE TO FOSTER A BETTER TOMORROW FOR ALL STAKEHOLDERS. YOUR GRACE, MERCY AND PEACE REST UPON US. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RING. THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED MARCH 10TH, 2025 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. DONNA, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? THANK YOU. DONNA. OKAY. MOVING STRAIGHT INTO THE AGENDA. [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ITEM 1A, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 24TH, 2025. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? HEARING NONE, THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED. [2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS] NOW MOVING TO TWO, ITEM TWO, COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO THE VISITORS. WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF VISITORS TODAY, SO WE'RE GOING FOR THE MAXIMUM OF FIVE MINUTES. TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED UP TO FIVE MINUTES AND SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT YOU SO CHOOSE. DO WE HAVE ANY VISITOR CARDS? WE HAVE THREE MAYOR. OKAY. COLLEEN NOVEMBER. HI. I'M COLLEEN NOVEMBER. A CITIZEN OF ATLANTIC BEACH 378 SIXTH STREET. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. I WILL NOT ABSOLUTELY TAKE FIVE MINUTES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH THE COMMUNICATION ON THE ORDINANCES, 124, 125, THAT WE'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU ABOUT. THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ESC WORKSHOP THIS THURSDAY AT 6 P.M. AND WONDERED IF, DURING THE CITY MANAGER'S SPEAKING TODAY, HE COULD CONFIRM IF THERE IS AN END TIME TO THE WORKSHOP OR IF AND IF PUBLIC COMMENT IS WELCOME, OR IF THAT WOULD INTERFERE WITH YOUR WORKING SESSION AND ABILITY TO TAKE THE FULL TWO HOURS TO ALIGN. THAT'S OUR ONLY QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS NOVEMBER. KEVIN BROWN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KEVIN BROWN. I LIVE AT 1833 KINGS COURT, JAX BEACH, BUT I AM A FIELD SUPERVISOR FOR THE BEACH OF SEA TURTLE PATROL. I'M ALSO A HUGE ADVOCATE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR DUNE PROTECTION. OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH TIME I'VE PUT IN WITH GROUPS AND STUDENTS. I WAS I'M A RETIRED TEACHER FROM FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE PLANTED OVER 100,000 SEEDS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. REASON I'M HERE IS I'VE GOT TWO OUT OF THREE BEACHES ON BOARD. I NEED ONE MORE JAX BEACH TO PUT UP THE PVC PIPES. ROPES THAT WITH SIGNAGE THAT TELLS THE VISITORS AND PEOPLE THAT AREN'T PART OF OUR CULTURE TO STAY OFF THE DUNES. NEPTUNE BEACH IS IN AND I WOULD LOVE. WHICH I FOUND OUT EARLIER A LITTLE BIT, THOUGH, THAT ATLANTIC BEACH IS IS HAS GOT INDICATIONS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH THIS. I KNOW THIS BEACH BACK AND FORTH. I CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE EVERYTHING IS, THE TOPOGRAPHY. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THE ENTIRE BEACH, BUT THERE ARE SECTIONS OF YOUR BEACH THAT HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF VISITORS AND WHAT WE CALL FOOT TRAFFIC. AND I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT WE'VE LIVED IN IT AND ON IT LONG ENOUGH. WE GOT TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT. I'M ALSO A FIRM BELIEVER THAT YOU BATTLE NATURE WITH NATURE, AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN BATTLE SEA LEVEL RISE AND WE CAN BATTLE STORM SURGE IS TO ENHANCE OUR DUNE SYSTEM, WHICH LAST SUMMER WE SAW THIS. NOW ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DIDN'T DO A GOOD JOB OF WHICH I'M [00:05:05] HAVE SPOKEN TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS ABOUT, IS WHEN THEY PLANTED OVER 300,000 SEEDS, PLANTED THEM AT THE WRONG TIME. OKAY. THEY PLANTED THEM IN LATE SUMMER. AND THAT'S WHEN OUR WEATHER CHANGES. THIS IS THE TIME TO PLANT. NOW BEACHES GO GREEN. PLANTED 3000 THE OTHER DAY FROM AHEARN TO THIRD STREET OR TO THIRD AVENUE. WE PLAN ON CONTINUING ON TO 10TH. THAT'S A SPARSE AREA IN ATLANTIC BEACH THAT NEEDS TO BE REINFORCED. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS. I'VE PLANTED SEA OATS AND BEACH MORNING GLORIES AT TIFFANY BY THE SEA. I'VE PLANTED THEM AT 20TH OCEAN WALK. 19TH. 18TH. BUT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THE FOOT TRAFFIC OFF THE DUNES. WE GOTTA KEEP THEM OFF. AND IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT THE RESIDENTS FAULT. IT'S NOT. IT'S THE VISITORS. WE HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED. YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE. WE ARE NOW A DESTINATION POINT, AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME. AND YOUR NORTH END, FROM ABOUT 16TH TO HANNAH PARK, IS PROBABLY THE MOST PRISTINE BEACH THAT WE HAVE IN DUVAL COUNTY. IT IS AWESOME. EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME THERE. SO, I ENCOURAGE YOU, AND I'VE TALKED TO I JUST HAD A DISCUSSION WITH MR. HOGENCAMP. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I AM HAPPY TO ADVOCATE AND SHOW THEM EXACTLY WHERE I THINK THINGS NEED TO BE. AND FURTHERMORE, IF I CAN DO ANY EDUCATION, I DO THIS IN JAX BEACH, NEPTUNE BEACH. I DO IT AT DIFFERENT PLACES, EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON OUR MARINE ECOSYSTEMS. THOSE DUNES ARE A HUGE NESTING AREA FOR SEA TURTLES AND SHOREBIRDS, AND THEY ALSO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND I'M AVAILABLE IF ANYBODY NEEDS ANYTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. AND YOU DID HAVE IT, RIGHT. IT'S THIRD STREET, NOT THIRD AVENUE, BECAUSE WE'RE BACKWARDS FROM WHERE YOU COME FROM. SARAH BOREN. HAPPY MONDAY, EVERYBODY. COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY CLERK, EVERYONE. I'M SARAH BOREN. I LIVE ON EIGHTH STREET. I AM HERE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE, I'M WEARING MY ESC HAT. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO HAVE A JOINT WORKSHOP THIS WEEK. WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY. SECOND, THANK YOU FOR VOTING TO MOVE FORWARD THE SEMINOLE AND ATLANTIC BOULEVARD ENTRANCE. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN I WANTED TO SHARE THAT OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE HAD KIND OF A COUPLE OF SUCCESSFUL ITEMS. ONE, WE ATTENDED THE CONSULTANT VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT UPDATE PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS A REALLY GOOD INFORMATION. WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL SPEAKER SERIES ON HOW TO PROTECT THE MARSH. AND KIND OF BEGINNING OUR LEARNING CURVE ON, ON POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS WITH, WITH THE SALT MARSH WETLAND SIDE. AND THEN WE HAD OUR BIGGEST HAUL EVER OF THE BRAZILIAN PEPPER TREE REMOVAL. SO WE HAD A HUGE THANK YOU FOR THE BIG TRUCK WITH THE BIG CLAW BECAUSE THAT HELPED A LOT. AND YOUR THE STAFF WAS AMAZING. SO HUGE KUDOS TO GABRIEL IN PARTICULAR AND ORGANIZING EVERYTHING. AND THEN WEARING MY PERSONAL HAT, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT ON RESOLUTION 2521 TONIGHT, ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER. SUPER EXCITED THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE RENOVATED. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THE FIRST STEP IS HARDENING IT. COMING FROM A GREEN BUILDING BACKGROUND, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AS MUCH RESILIENCY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY THAT WE CAN SQUEEZE INTO THE BUDGET AS POSSIBLE. WOULD BE GREAT. I KNOW STEVE IS ALL ON TOP OF IT, BUT THE MORE OF US THAT NOODLE IT AND THINK ABOUT SOLUTIONS, THE BETTER. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF REAL ESTATE ON THAT ROOF FOR FUTURE SOLAR, RIGHT. SO MAYBE THINKING ABOUT PUTTING THE HVAC, THE UNITS ON THE SIDE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE ELEVATED. SO AVOID FLOODING. BUT, YOU KNOW, THINKING CREATIVELY AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE, IF YOU WEREN'T ALREADY. FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS GOT A SENATE BILL 62 AND A COMPANION HOUSE BILL 143 ON RESILIENT BUILDINGS. INTRODUCED BY REPUBLICANS ON BOTH SIDES. [00:10:03] AND IT IS QUITE INTERESTING. IT'S INCENTIVIZING RESILIENT BUILDINGS. SO IF YOU MEET A CERTAIN STANDARD, I THINK THEY'RE USING LEAD. OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE. BUT WITH THE RESILIENCE PATH THE OWNER CAN GET UP TO $1 TO $2, DEPENDING ON HOW HIGH THEY GET THEIR CERTIFICATION PER SQUARE FOOT FOR FIVE YEARS AS A TAX CREDIT. SO I'M EXCITED. HOPEFULLY IT'S MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH ON COMMITTEES, YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT THAT'S PROMISING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU, MISS BOREN. HANNAH CALLAWAY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. IT'LL FALL DOWN. JUST PULL IT ALL THE WAY TO GO UP THERE. YOU COME DOWN. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE. I'M HERE REGARDING THE BACKYARD HENS. I'M THE PERSON THAT YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM. YEAH. THAT'S ME. BECAUSE HENS ARE PROHIBITED IN DUPLEXES IN ATLANTIC BEACH. IT SAYS UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. THIS DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I THINK IT SHOULD BE BASED ON YARD SIZE, ACREAGE. IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THE HENS A GOOD DISTANCE FROM PROPERTY LINES TO STILL PROTECT THE PEACE OF OUR NEIGHBORS. I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO KEEP CHICKENS LIKE THE REST OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS' HOMES. IT'S REALLY A MATTER OF FOOD SOVEREIGNTY. YOU ALL, I'M SURE, HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SURGES IN EGG PRICES. A LOT OF PLACES IN THE COUNTRY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ACCESS TO EGGS, AND I'D LOVE TO JUST RAISE MY OWN AND HAVE A FEW CHICKEN PETS AT NO HARM TO MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, BY THE WAY, BEHIND THIS. AND YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN EMAILS FROM THEM AS WELL. I'M AT 2042 LAKE VIEW COURT. WOULD LOVE TO CHAT WITH YOU ALL MORE ABOUT IT. ANYBODY IN HERE HAVE CHICKENS? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO? MISS CALLOWAY. MISS CALLOWAY CAN'T SPEAK TO THE AUDIENCE IN CHAMBERS. ONLY TO THE DAIS. BUT THANK YOU. I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS. THAT'S OKAY. I DIDN'T EXPLAIN THE RULES, SO. SURE. GO ON, IF YOU HAVE MORE. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BRINKLEY HARRELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF. I'M BRINKLEY HARRELSON, TWO 66TH STREET. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE SELECTED BY COMMISSIONER KELLY FROM 1306. AND ALTHOUGH THE STOCK COMMITTEE KIND OF SUNSETTED BACK IN NOVEMBER AFTER THE ELECTION WE WERE ASKED TO CONTINUE TO REMAIN FOR THE VISION 0 OR 0 VISION TASK FORCE. AND FIVE OF US STILL REMAIN AND ATTENDED THAT MEETING LAST WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY NIGHT WITH A BIG PRESENTATION AND AN ONGOING DISCUSSION WITH KIMBERLY HORN AND THREE OF THE PEOPLE FROM THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS RECORDED, BUT AMANDA WAS THERE IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET ANOTHER DRAW ON IT. BUT THEY BASICALLY IN THEIR STUDY, THEY HAD DONE 15 DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT ATLANTIC BEACH BASED ON CERTAIN DEGREES OF PUBLIC INPUT AND ALMOST EVERY INTERSECTION THAT WAS DEEMED TO HAVE AN ISSUE, THERE WERE TWO WAYS TO FIX. IT MOVE THE STOP BARS, THE PAINTED WHITE LINE ON THE STREET UP FURTHER, LIKE WHAT'S REALLY KIND OF NEEDED OVER HERE AND MAYBE OVER THERE WHICH WAS ONE OF THEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED. AND THE OTHER ONE IS PUTTING 3 OR 4 WAY STOPS AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROBLEMATIC. SO, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL CAN GET Y'ALL CAN ACCESS THE REPORT SOMEHOW. AT LEAST AMANDA HAS IT. AND I'M SURE MR. KILLINGSWORTH HAS IT. BUT THERE WERE ONLY FIVE OF US THERE. FIVE CITIZEN MEMBERS THERE. AND WITH THAT SMALL OF A COMMITTEE, WE GOT MORE DONE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD THAN WHEN IT WAS THE FULL 9 OR 11 PERSON STOP COMMITTEE, BECAUSE WE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS THE THINGS THAT AND THOSE THAT WERE THERE REALLY KNEW ALL THE ISSUES THAT MOST OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS. SO ONCE AGAIN, GOOD THING FOR WHAT KIMBERLY HORN DID. KIM HORN, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND ALSO, MOST OF THOSE THINGS ARE VERY EASY, VERY INEXPENSIVE FIXES. BUT THE OTHER THING IS, THE SMALLER COMMITTEE WORKED A HECK OF A LOT BETTER THAN THE MUCH LARGER STOP COMMITTEE. SO I WON'T TAKE UP ANY MORE TIME OTHER THAN, SAY, I DIDN'T SPEAK LAST COMMISSION MEETING BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO GO THREE MINUTES OVER THE FOUR HOURS THAT IT ALREADY WAS. AND ALL OF Y'ALL DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. HEARING THE 50 PLUS CITIZENS THAT SPOKE BEARING WITH EVERYTHING AND THEN THE ACTIONS THAT Y'ALL DID TAKE SUBSEQUENT TO THAT MEETING. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY GREAT, AND I STAYED HERE FOR THE WHOLE THING. I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT I DID. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HARRELL. THAT'S ALL FOR THE SPEAKER FORMS, MAYOR. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO OUR VISITORS. [00:15:03] AND SO TO MISS CALLAWAY, SINCE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE RULES, I APOLOGIZE. I SHOULD HAVE SHARED WITH YOU, BUT WE MAY OR MAY NOT ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT'S BROUGHT TO CHAMBERS DURING THIS MEETING. WE MIGHT MAY DECIDE TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE MEETING FOR DISCUSSION, BUT BRING IT AGAIN. BRING OTHERS THAT ARE LIKE MINDED AND WILL CERTAINLY LISTEN. THANK YOU. AND IS IT CALLAWAY? DID I GET THAT RIGHT? CALLAWAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO ITEM THREE, CITY MANAGER REPORTS. [3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS] MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BEFORE YOU IS THE 90 DAY CALENDAR, WHICH EXTENDS INTO MAY, I BELIEVE ALL OF YOU ARE GETTING THE EVENTS ON YOUR FOOT ONTO YOUR CALENDAR. IF YOU'RE NOT. IF YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW. BECAUSE I CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE BEING PUT ON MINE. WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE 90 DAY CALENDAR FROM MARCH 25TH TO MAY 25TH. ANY CHANGES? OKAY. WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO APPROVE. I ALSO APPROVED. IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT AND I THINK THE TIMELINE HAS CHANGED. KEVIN, DO YOU WANT TO TALK? WE HAVE USTA COMING IN WEDNESDAY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE WEDNESDAY, AND I THINK A PIECE OF THURSDAY. KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. THAT'S THE UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION. THEY ARE DOING AN ASSESSMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE OUR TENNIS PROGRAMING AND FACILITIES, AND ARE AVAILABLE FROM 5 TO 7 P.M. WEDNESDAY AT THE RUSSELL PARK TENNIS COURTS, AND AGAIN FROM 8 A.M. TO 10 A.M. THURSDAY AT THE RUSSELL PARK TENNIS COURTS, AND OTHERWISE DURING THEIR ASSESSMENT. IF ANYONE WANTS TO HAVE SOME INPUT, THEY'RE WELCOME TO CONTACT US AT CITY HALL AND WE'LL PASS ALONG THEIR INPUT TO THE USTA. AND THEY'RE GOING TO WRAP UP THEIR ASSESSMENT WITH A REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER. AND WE'LL BE REPORTING BACK TO YOU FOLLOWING THAT ASSESSMENT. MR. HOGENCAMP. SINCE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THEY DO THIS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE'S TWO DAYS WHERE THEY'RE AT THE COURTS FOR TWO HOURS? THAT'S RIGHT. AS PART OF THEIR REVIEW. THEY'RE GOING TO INSPECT OUR FACILITIES AND TALK TO A LOT OF OUR PLAYERS. THE FOLKS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THIS TOPIC HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS DIRECTLY. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOTTEN AN EMAIL FROM US SAYING, HEY, WE'RE FOLLOWING UP, AND HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE USTA FOLKS FACE TO FACE. AND CERTAINLY THAT'S BY FAR NOT THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE INPUT DURING THIS PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANKS. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. AND WITH THAT, I WILL INVITE UP CHIEF VICK TO TALK ABOUT SPEED CAMERAS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. VICK GUALILLO, CHIEF OF POLICE. SO JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW. I KNOW THE IDEA OF SPEED CAMERAS IN OUR SCHOOL ZONES CAME UP. NEPTUNE BEACH IS INSTITUTING THOSE NOW, AND I BELIEVE MAYBE DUVAL COUNTY BE LOOKING AT THOSE IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION IN OUR SMALL TOWN. PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL INGRESS EGRESS FOR BOTH OF THE STREETS WHERE OUR SCHOOL IS ON THE SHERRI DRIVE AND SEMINOLE ROAD. I'M A LITTLE BIT INDIFFERENT, HONESTLY, AS FAR AS THE CAMERAS GO. I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME BENEFITS THERE. I THINK WE LOSE A FEW THINGS. IF WE WERE TO GO TO AUTOMATED SPEED ENFORCEMENT A COUPLE OF THINGS I THINK WE WOULD LOSE. I WOULD HATE TO WALK AWAY FROM COMPLETELY. WOULD BE OFFICER PRESENCE IN THE AREA. I THINK THAT'S HUGE FOR US. WE'RE NOT OUT THERE EVERY DAY, BUT WE'RE OUT THERE AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE. CALLS FOR SERVICE PERMITTING. AND THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OFFICER AND ONE OF THE SCHOOL ZONES IN THE AFTERNOONS. OF COURSE, ROBBIE IS THERE DIRECTING TRAFFIC OVER ON SHERRI DRIVE, BUT I THINK THAT'S A HUGE COMPONENT FOR US IN OUR COMMUNITIES. OFFICER PRESENCE, TO SEE AN OFFICER OUT THERE TO TALK TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE WALKING THEIR KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL. SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT INTERACTION FOR US. WE DO THE ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE AND WE DO DISCRETIONARY ENFORCEMENT. SO NOT EVERYBODY GETS STOPPED, GETS A TICKET. THE OFFICERS HAVE THE DISCRETION TO TALK TO THE PERSON, LET THEM KNOW, HEY, HERE'S WHAT YOU WERE DOING. YOU WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SPEED LIMIT. MAYBE YOU WERE NINE OVER TEN OVER 11 OVER. AND BASED ON WHAT THAT INTERACTION WITH THE CITIZEN IS THE OFFICER HAS THE DISCRETION TO JUST WARN THEM, RIGHT. AND SAY, LOOK, YOU HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. PLEASE DON'T DO THIS AGAIN. SO, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THERE TOO. SO, WITH OFFICER PRESENCE, YOU GET THAT SECONDARY ENFORCEMENT. AND THAT MEANS IF THERE'S ANOTHER VIOLATION THAT WE FIND AFTER WE STOP THE CAR, THE PERSON HAS A WARRANT, [00:20:02] A SUSPENDED DRIVER'S LICENSE. MAYBE THERE'S ALCOHOL OR DRUGS SOMEHOW INVOLVED, OR THERE'S SOME OTHER PROBLEM. WE GET A CHANCE TO STOP AND TALK TO THAT CITIZEN AND SAY, GEE, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND THERE IS A SECONDARY ENFORCEMENT OPTION THAT WE HAVE THERE. WE DO A FAIR NUMBER OF THOSE ON ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC STOPS, BUT THE SCHOOL ZONE IS PART OF THOSE. AGAIN, IT'S A MAJOR INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR US TO OUR CORE CITY AREA. THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME TIME INTO AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM. I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO MR. CRAWLEY FROM ULTIMATE, WHO IS THE COMPANY THAT IS PUTTING THE SPEED CAMERAS IN FOR NEPTUNE BEACH? IT WAS A GREAT DISCUSSION. THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE HAVE TO PUT OFFICERS ON TO ADMINISTER THIS. IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST ONE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF PERSON THAT HAS TO BE THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. I WOULDN'T LEAVE THIS WITH JUST AN OFFICER OR SERGEANT. SO IT HAS TO BE PROBABLY SOMEONE AT THE LIEUTENANT LEVEL OR COMMANDER LEVEL RESPONSIBLE AS A SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR, AND THEN PROBABLY ONE SERGEANT OR OFFICER TO DO THE REVIEWS. SO, MR. CRAWLEY WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SAY, LOOK, IT'S PROBABLY 1520 30S FOR A PERSON TO REVIEW ALL OF THESE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CARS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE SPEED ZONE THAT ARE CAPTURED ON THE CAMERA TO VERIFY THE CAR, TO VERIFY THE TAG, AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT'S PROBABLY THE AVERAGE, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS SOME BACK END THING THAT COMES UP, WHETHER THAT'S MANAGING THE SOFTWARE OR COMPLAINTS OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH THIS TIME THAT'S GOING TO BE CREATED BY THIS FOR AT LEAST TWO ADDITIONAL PEOPLE IN THE AGENCY. WE DID A TRAFFIC COUNT OUT THERE FOR A WEEK IN EACH OF THE SCHOOL ZONES, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT DATA WAS CORRUPTED. SO I HAD OFFICERS GO BACK OUT AND THEY DID A MANUAL COUNTS, WHICH MEANS THEY SAT THERE IN AN UNDERCOVER CAR SO IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A POLICE CAR. AND THEY DID ONE SCHOOL ZONE, ONE DIRECTION ON ONE DAY OR SAY THE MORNING, AND THEY WENT BACK IN THE AFTERNOON TO THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION IN THAT SAME ROAD, WHETHER THAT WAS CHERRY DRIVE OR SEMINOLE. THE NUMBERS WERE PRETTY MUCH WHAT I EXPECTED. IF WE DID 100% ENFORCEMENT AT THE EXTREME ENDS OF THE SCHOOL ZONES, MEANING AS SOON AS SOMEONE ENTERED EITHER DIRECTION, IF THEY WEREN'T AT THAT 15MPH, THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY WHERE OFFICERS SIT. THEY SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL ZONES TO ALLOW PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IN ONE DAY, AND JUST AS A ROUGH AVERAGE, WE HAVE ABOUT 70 TICKETS THAT WAS 25MPH OR MORE OVER, SO THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY HIGH NUMBER. BUT AGAIN, WHEN WE SIT OUT THERE, WHEN THE OFFICER PRESENT, WE SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCHOOL ZONE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IS AS PEOPLE ENTER THE SCHOOL ZONE, THEY CROSS THAT FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT. THEY EITHER SEE THE OFFICER OR THEY SEE WHERE THE ORANGE CONES ARE TO MARK THE CROSSWALKS, AND PEOPLE WIND UP SLOWING DOWN BEFORE THEY GET TO THE CROSSWALK. SOMETIMES THEY SPEED UP AFTER THEY CROSS THAT CROSSING, OR SOMETIMES THEY STAY AT THE 15. IT'S JUST A YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE TO CAPTURE DATA FROM BOTH ENDS TO TRY AND GET A PERCENTAGE. SO THE OFFICERS WANT TO TRY AND GIVE THE FOLKS A CHANCE TO SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT. AND THERE ARE PLENTY THAT DON'T. AND THEY ROLL RIGHT ON THROUGH IT 25 OR 30 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH WOULD BE ALMOST NORMAL FOR THE REGULAR SPEED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION, THEY'RE NOT FROM THE AREA. AND OF COURSE, THOSE FOLKS GET STOPPED AND TALKED TO OR ISSUED A CITATION. SO THAT'S 100% ENFORCEMENT. WITH NO DISCRETION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD GET WITH AN AUTOMATED CAMERA SYSTEM, AS YOU WOULD GET THE TICKET AND A $100 FOR ENTERING THAT SCHOOL ZONE AT ANYTHING MORE THAN TEN MILES AN HOUR OVER 11 COULD SET THE THRESHOLD. SO, MR. CROWLEY DID DISPEL SOME OF MY CONCERNS. WE DO HAVE A WAY WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND WORK ENFORCEMENT IN THE SCHOOL ZONES AT THE SAME TIME THE CAMERAS ARE UP. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMPANY THAT WE WERE THERE THAT AFTERNOON, OR THERE WAS A PARTICULAR CAR THAT WE CITED. AS YOU KNOW, SCHOOL ZONES AND WORK ZONES ARE DOUBLED IN FINE STRUCTURE. SO IF YOU'RE SPEEDING, THAT'S A DOUBLE. FINE. SO IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS GOING 30, 35 MILES AN HOUR AND THE OFFICER WAS ABLE TO SEE THEM AND THEY THOUGHT, HEY, LOOK, THIS PERSON PROBABLY NEEDS SOME CORRECTION BECAUSE OF THEIR DRIVING HISTORY, OR MAYBE THEY'VE ENCOUNTERED THEM BEFORE. THE OFFICER COULD WRITE A CITATION AND VOID OUT THE TICKET THAT WAS ISSUED BY THE SPEED CAMERA. SO THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY IN IT. AGAIN, I'M A LITTLE INDIFFERENT. I THINK WE DO LOSE THOSE THINGS THAT I SPOKE ABOUT. SO THAT OFFICER PRESENCE AND WHAT A POLICE OFFICER CAN DO WHEN THEY ARE THERE WORKING THE SCHOOL ZONE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT, BUT WE CAN AUGMENT THAT WITH ON DAYS WHEN WE ARE WORKING IN THE SCHOOL ZONE, WE CAN WORK WITH THE AUTOMATED SYSTEM AND TRY AND TRY AND ELIMINATE THOSE TICKETS. THEY'RE NOT DOUBLE TICKETED. AND THE UPSIDE OF THAT ALSO IS MOST OF OUR COMPLAINTS, THE VOLUME OF OUR COMPLAINTS COME IN AT RUSH HOUR MORNING OR AFTERNOON EVENING TIME. SO IF AN OFFICER ISN'T IN THE SCHOOL ZONE WORKING THAT I CAN SEND THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE TRAFFIC INTO THE LOCATION. SO THAT IS AN UPSIDE. IT IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER, BUT YOU HAVE 100% PUNITIVE ACTION AGAINST WHOEVER'S SPEEDING. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY PUT THOSE CAMERAS AT THE ENTRANCE OR EXITS THE SCHOOL ZONES, WHEREVER THAT IS, [00:25:06] SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET A TICKET AND IT'S 100%. AND IT'S IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. AND THE DESIRE IS TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PUNITIVE ENFORCEMENT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO. YES. COMMISSIONER RING. SO I ASK THAT THIS BE BROUGHT UP IN A PRESENTATION, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENING IN NEPTUNE BEACH. I, FOR ONE, DO PICK UP MY CHILDREN FROM ABE AND ALSO ON THIRD STREET. I'D LIKE TO SEE THESE ON THIRD STREET. BUT THEN AS YOUR ELECTED OFFICIAL HERE, I WONDERED, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY? I LOVE THAT I SEE OFFICER HARDING OUT THERE AND THE OTHER OFFICERS EVERY MORNING. EVERY MORNING THEY'RE OUT THERE WITH A SMILE. THEY'RE DIRECTING TRAFFIC. NOTHING BEATS A PERSON. I DO WONDER, LIKE THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT YOU'RE NOT THERE BECAUSE YOU ARE SHORT STAFFED. SO WITH THIS HELP IN THAT CASE, AND THAT'S ONE QUESTION. FOLLOW UP. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN YOU GUYS OUT ON SEMINOLE. SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR SCHOOL ZONES AS WELL. YEAH. WE'RE FREQUENTLY ON SEMINOLE. AGAIN, IT'S CALLS FOR SERVICE. GET A PRIORITY. THE FIRST QUESTION WAS THE ENFORCEMENT. SO HERE'S ONE CONSIDERATION. WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE TO SEND SOMEONE OUT. RIGHT. AND YOU. AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO BE THERE ON SHERRY, I HAVE. IT'S RARE THAT I SEE THAT. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT ON THIRD, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE NOT ON B EACH. IT'S NOT THAT. THAT BUSY OR TRAFFIC. BUT I WAS PRETTY SHOCKED HEARING YOUR NUMBER AT 70 IN A WEEK, SO THAT'S PRETTY LARGE. AND I, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY IT'S ALL ABOUT PROTECTING OUR CHILDREN. THERE WAS A YOUNG HIGH. SCHOOL GIRL WHO WAS JUST HIT AND KILLED, JUST WAITING OUTSIDE HER BUS STOP OVER IN JTB AREA OR 9A AREA. SO WHEN YOUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO GO ON CALL, HOW DOES THIS HELP IN THAT CASE? WELL, IT DOES ENSURE THAT THE RECORD OF THE INFRACTIONS RECORDED SOMEWHERE. BUT THERE'S A LAG TIME. SO THAT'S BETWEEN 2 AND 3 WEEKS AVERAGE IN THIS. THIS IS FROM MR. CROWLEY'S CONVERSATION. ME AND PROBABLY OTHER COMPANIES TO SAY THE SAME THING, THAT THERE'S A LAG TIME. SO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOES SPEED THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE ASSUMING THAT MAYBE THEY'RE COMING TO OUR JURISDICTION FOR THE FIRST TIME, MAYBE THEY'RE HERE FOR A WEEK, MAYBE THEY'RE A CONTRACTOR WORKING, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHERE UP THE ROAD, IT'S GOING TO BE 2 TO 3 WEEKS BEFORE THEY GET THE TICKET, BEFORE THEY EVEN KNEW THEY. RIGHT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OFFICER THERE EVERY DAY FOR EVERY SCHOOL ZONE BECAUSE IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S IMMEDIATE CORRECTION. RIGHT? MAYBE THEY WERE REMINDED. OH, GEEZ, THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER SITTING THERE. I'M IN A SCHOOL ZONE, A BETTER SCHOOL. I BETTER SLOW DOWN. OR IT CAN BE A TALKING TO. MY PREFERENCE IS FOR THE OFFICERS TO BE THERE, BUT YES, WE COULD AUGMENT IT WITH THE AUTOMATED SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS. JUST UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LAG TIME BEFORE SOMEONE GETS A TICKET IN THE MAIL LETTING THEM KNOW, HEY, YOU WERE SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE, AND THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY COME AND GONE FROM OUR JURISDICTION FOR A WEEK OR MORE. AND THEIR FOLLOWED UP WITH A LOT OF MORE SIGNAGE. SO, AS I SEE IT ON THE BEACHES, CHAPEL AREA AND NEPTUNE BEACH AREA, THERE'S MORE SIGNAGE THAN WHAT DCPS HAS GIVEN US. THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH SIGNAGE ON THE SEMINOLE ACCESS POINT, THAT SCHOOL ZONE AREA. WE ALL KNOW THAT FOR ABE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ABE ON SHERI. BUT IT'S NOT THERE ON THE BACK ALLEY THERE. SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AUTOMATED SPEED CAMERAS, WE WOULD HAVE MORE SIGNAGE. I ASSUME THERE WOULD BE THERE'S SOME STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS WE'D HAVE TO MEET. I WILL, JUST AS AN ASIDE, MENTION THIS, BECAUSE THIS CAME UP IN A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. I COUNTED ALL THE INFORMATIONAL SIGNS ON SEMINOLE ROAD BETWEEN HERE AND ATLANTIC BOULEVARD ONE DAY IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, AND THERE'S 101. THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING 25 MILES AN HOUR. THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNS ON SEMINOLE. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. THERE'S A REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE TO PUT SOME SIGNAGE IN. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO HOW TO MAKE THAT DELIVER THAT MESSAGE BETTER. YOU HAVE TO PUT SIGNS UP TO TELL PEOPLE SOMETHING'S GOING ON. IT'S JUST AT SOME POINT, THERE'S A LOT OF VISUAL CLUTTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHIEF. I GOT A QUICK QUESTION. HOW MANY TICKETS WOULD YOU WRITE ON A NORMAL DAY? SCHOOL ZONE TICKETS, WOULD YOU WRITE? I MEAN, SO ARE YOU SAYING THE CAMERAS WOULD WRITE 70, ROUGHLY? HOW MANY ARE YOU GUYS WRITING? SO 2 TO 3 IN A SCHOOL ZONE ON EACH STREET PER DAY. [00:30:01] THAT'S AN AVERAGE TO WAG. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DETERRENCE THERE TOO, BECAUSE THE OFFICER IS SITTING THERE. PEOPLE SEE THE COP AND THEY SLOW DOWN. SO, THE SO OKAY. SO THAT'S A GOOD TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, VISIBILITY OF THE PRESENCE OF THE OFFICERS IS DEFINITELY A DETERRENT. WHEREAS MAYBE THE CAMERA PICKS THEM UP, BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY DATA OUT THERE THAT SHOWS. OKAY, PUT A CAP. YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE PUT THE CAMERA IN. IT WAS 70 A DAY. AFTER WEEK, MONTH, TWO MONTHS. YOU KNOW, IT CAME DOWN TO X JUST TO KIND OF GIVE US A, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE BUYING HERE. IF WE IF WE GO IN THAT DIRECTION VERSUS WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, IT'D BE NICE TO IF WE COULD PUT SOME DATA TO THAT. I AM SURE THE VENDORS HAVE SOME DATA. AND I THINK MR. CROWLEY HAS SOME DATA ALSO. PROBABLY I COULD REACH OUT TO SOME AGENCIES AND MAYBE IF THEY COULD CONFIRM THAT DATA, WE COULD ASK THEM, I'M SURE IF WE IF WE ASKED ULTIMATE, THEY COULD GIVE US THE NUMBERS TO. YEAH. MAYBE OUR NEIGHBORS SOUTH OF US HAVE SOME. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE COST? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO COST AT THESE CAMERAS, AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER PLUS. SO I WOULD DEFER TO MR. CROWLEY. ONLY ON THE ULTIMATE AGREEMENT. BUT I AND I CAN GENERALLY TELL YOU THAT IT'S 34.95, $3,500 A MONTH PER CAMERA. SO THERE IS A PRICING STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS AN AGENCY OR A CITY TO PAY THAT, OR THERE'S A 20 TO 21% CUT OF THE CITATION. THE $60 CITATION THAT THE AGENCY OR THE CITY RECEIVES. SO IT DEPENDS ON THE VOLUME THAT YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. MY OPINION IS OUR NUMBERS ARE SO LOW THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO $3,500 A MONTH TO PAY FOR THE CAMERAS. IT DOESN'T WORK OUT THAT WAY AS FAR AS THE MATH GOES. IF WE LOOKED AT THE CITATION AND I'M GOING TO AGAIN SPEAK FROM A CONVERSATION WITH MR. CROWLEY. THE ESTIMATE THAT THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR GAVE US WAS BETWEEN 90 AND 95% COMPLIANCE RATE. AFTER A FEW MONTHS OF THESE CAMERAS BEING IN, WHICH IS GREAT, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED. YOU WANTED TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. BUT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT, YOU WOULD TAKE THAT NUMBER OF 70, REDUCE IT BY 90 TO 95%. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU'D HAVE TO DO THE MATH BACK BECAUSE THIS IS A BUSINESS ARRANGEMENT, RIGHT? SO IF IT'S $60 TO THE CITY THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND $6,300 A MONTH. THIS IS JUST ROUGH NUMBERS THAT I'M LOOKING AT A ONE DAY SNAPSHOT FROM THE DATA OUT THERE WITH EVERYONE'S PERMISSION, I'M GOING TO ASK CITY MANAGER TO BRING US A REPORT OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE WE COULD GO ON FOR HOURS ON THIS CONVERSATION. THANK YOU, VIC, CHIEF. THANKS. ANY OTHER REPORTS? THAT'S IT. OKAY. CITY COMMISSIONERS STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER BOLE. [4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS] YEAH. REAL QUICK, I'LL SAVE MINE FOR THE END, BUT BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY IS LOOKING FOR SPONSORS FOR DANCING IN THE STREETS, WHICH IS COMING FASTER THAN YOU KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NEXT. WHO IS NEXT? MR. GRANT? YES. MR. BROWN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. I FORGET IF IT WAS TWO MEETINGS AGO OR THREE MEETINGS AGO. WE HAD A NICE YOUNG LADY TALK TO US ABOUT DUNES, AND WE GAVE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF THE DIRECTIVE TO USE ALL RESOURCES POSSIBLE TO GET THIS, THESE ROPES UP. AND I GUESS WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICK? ANYONE. SURE. SO STAFF IS PUBLIC WORKS IS GETTING A QUOTE FOR OKAY FOR THE MATERIALS. WE ARE CHOOSING NOT TO DO PVC PIPE AND POLYETHYLENE ROPE, WHICH IS WHAT JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND NEPTUNE BEACH DID JUST BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF THAT. WE'RE GOING TO DO A WOOD POSTS THAT MATCH WHAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS DID. AND THEN A NATURAL ROPE PRODUCT LIKE THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS WOULD PROVIDE. OKAY. WE JUST THINK IT FITS THE CULTURE OF ATLANTIC BEACH BETTER AND. COST WISE, IS IT I AGREE, IT PROBABLY LOOKS BETTER THAN PVC. SO I DON'T HAVE A COST ON THAT YET. THAT'S WHAT I'M WAITING ON, IS THE COST. MY WHAT I'M GUESSING IS IT'S RIGHT AROUND $10,000, GIVE OR TAKE. OKAY. YEAH, LET'S PLEASE, WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO EXPEDITE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO SEASON. YOU KNOW, SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE BEFORE IT GETS WARM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KELLY. HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, AND WE DID A ESSENTIALLY A TABLETOP EXERCISE. [00:35:03] AND THERE'S A DEEP DIVIDE BETWEEN THE CITIES THAT ARE RECOVERING FROM HURRICANES AND THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT, AND THAT WE SHOULD COUNT OUR LUCKY STARS THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE HAVE IS BASEBALL PARKING, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE STILL DEVASTATED BY THE COSTS AND THE RECOVERY EFFORTS. THEY'RE STILL PICKING UP TRASH, SO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO I LOVE OUR RESERVES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER RING. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE HENS. SO, I REALLY APPRECIATE MISS CALLOWAY COMING AND DISCUSSING, AND I KNOW I WAS SENT MULTIPLE EMAILS REGARDING THE HIDDEN ORDINANCE. I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE. ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, ANOTHER NEIGHBOR OF MINE WHO LIVES IN A TOWNHOME BROUGHT IT UP TO ME. SHE WAS UNAWARE THAT BECAUSE SHE LIVED IN A TOWNHOME WITH THE FENCED IN AND A PRETTY LARGE BACKYARD, SHE WAS NOT ALLOWED. HENS. I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS MISSING SOME THINGS. I MEAN, IF THE POINT IS TO MAKE SURE YOUR LOT IS A CERTAIN SIZE OR YOU HAVE A SETBACK. I BELIEVE THERE'S A WAY WE COULD REWRITE THE ORDINANCE TO ENSURE THAT. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS ASK CITY MANAGER TO LOOK AT HOW OTHER CITIES REGULATE THE HENS AND JUST COMPARE IT TO OURS, AT LEAST JUST FOR THE DISCUSSION SAKE. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, JUST THE CHICKENS. OKAY. GOTCHA CHICKEN CONVERSATION GOING. OKAY I'LL BRING IT HOME. I FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO ANNE MARIE MOQUIN WITH BEACHES GO GREEN, WHO SPONSORED THE PLANNING FROM AHERN TO THIRD STREET THIS PAST SATURDAY. IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT. I WASN'T ABLE TO STAY VERY LONG. I APOLOGIZE TO ANYBODY THAT WAS THERE, BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS IT? 3000 PLANTS ADDED. AND THE CORE HAS ALREADY DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON THE SEA OATS AND DOING REMEDIAL SEA OAK PLANTING FOR THOSE THAT DIED. BUT WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE BEACHES GO GREEN BASED IN ATLANTIC BEACH. THAT WAS A WINDFALL TO US BECAUSE THOSE PLANTS WERE SUPPOSED TO GO INTO JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CANCELED. SO THE PLANTS HAD TO GO IN THE GROUND. WE GOT THEM. AND I'M VERY, VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. AND THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, FOR SPEAKING REGARDING THE DUNE ROPING. AND I'M JUST GOING TO ECHO COMMISSIONER GRANT THAT WE'D LIKE TO IF WE HAVE ANY TROUBLE SECURING THE MATERIALS THAT YOU'VE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. LET'S JUST AND LET'S GET MATERIALS BECAUSE SOME OF US ARE PRETTY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE INTO SEASON WITH PEOPLE ALL OVER THE DUNES. AND BY THE WAY, FOR THOSE SITTING ON THE DAIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT MY CONVERSATION AND MY ASK IS NOT THAT WE ROPE ALL THE WAY TO HANNA PARK, BUT THAT WE ROPE AS FAR NORTH AS 19TH. THAT'S OUR LAST PUBLIC ACCESS. WELL, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A 20TH STREET ACCESS, BUT THAT'S THERE'S NO PLACE TO PARK TO GET THROUGH THAT ACCESS, I THINK. IS THERE A 20TH STREET? NO. IT'S JUST OH, NO, THERE IS, THERE'S A 20TH STREET ACCESS, BUT IT'S BETWEEN TWO PRIVATE HOMES WITH NO ON STREET PARKING, BASICALLY. SO 19TH STREET IS THE BIG DEAL FOR ME. BUT MOVING ON TO I WANT TO CLEAR THE AIR, AND I GUESS MAYBE IT'S GETTING CLEAR, BUT I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I KEEP GETTING EMAILS. SO FOR ANYBODY WHO WATCHES THIS OR IS WATCHING NOW AND ANYBODY THAT'S HERE THERE HAS NEVER, AT LEAST IN RECENT HISTORY, IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A MARKET VERSUS BASEBALL CONTROVERSY THAT'S MADE UP THE ORIGINAL REQUEST BY CITY STAFF AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY MANAGER, WAS TO NOTIFY BASEBALL THAT THEY WERE TO AUGMENT THEIR START HOURS ON SUNDAY BY ONE HOUR UNTIL WE FIGURED OUT SOLUTIONS. BUT IT WASN'T ABOUT CLOSING DOWN BASEBALL, AND IT WASN'T ABOUT CLOSING DOWN THE MARKET. AND I DID ADDRESS THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. WE SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED IN THAT COMMUNICATION THAT THAT WAS TEMPORARY. WE FAILED AS A CITY TO DO THAT. SO SHAME ON US FOR THAT. BUT THERE IS NO CONTROVERSY TODAY. SO AS OF MOST RECENT, IN MY MEETING WITH THE MANAGER OF THE MARKET AND MR. KILLINGSWORTH THERE WERE SOME AGREEMENTS MADE TO IMPROVE OUR PARKING. AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, THE CITY AND AT THE DIRECTION OF MR. [00:40:02] KILLINGSWORTH ALREADY OFFERED UP AND STARTED THIS PAST WEEKEND. WAS IT THIS PAST WEEKEND OR THE PREVIOUS? LAST WEEK. THIS PAST WEEKEND, BY REMOVING ALL CITY VEHICLES FROM THIS PARKING LOT. AND THAT WAS ABOUT 15 SPACES. THE NEXT REQUEST WAS FOR THE MARKET TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT SERVE PREPARED FOOD. SO WHEN I SAY FOOD TRUCKS, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MEAT TRUCKS THAT SELL MEAT OR OTHER REFRIGERATED PRODUCTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT PREPARED FOOD TRUCKS. WE, I THINK AT ONE POINT HAD FIVE, AND THEY TAKE UP AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF SPACE BECAUSE THEY PARKED SIDEWAYS IN THE PARKING SPACES AND TAKE UP 4 OR 5 AND SOMETIMES SIX PARKING SPACES. SO WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THAT, THAT THERE WILL BE ONE FEATURED FOOD TRUCK EACH SUNDAY AND THAT WILL BE ROTATED TO GIVE ALL OF THEM OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. BUT THAT REALLY MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN PARKING. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS BEING HAD. AND CERTAINLY WE NEED TO KEEP REVISITING THIS NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM. WHAT IS THE SCOPE AND THE AND THE POTENTIAL GROWTH FOR BASEBALL? WHAT IS THE SCOPE AND POTENTIAL GROWTH FOR THE MARKET? WHAT OTHER REMEDIES DO WE HAVE FOR PARKING. SO I'LL LET YOU KNOW. RIGHT NOW I'M IN DISCUSSION WITH A LOCAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS A SHOPPING CENTER IN ATLANTIC BEACH THAT MAY HOUSE THE VENDORS IN OFF SITE PARKING AT THE SHOPPING CENTER TO FREE UP ALL OF THOSE PARKING SPACES. SO IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE MARKET VERSUS BASEBALL, THERE IS NO MARKET VERSUS BASEBALL. WE WANT BOTH TO COEXIST. WE ULTIMATELY WOULD CHANGE THAT. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR. IF THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN, WE WILL CHANGE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT A BIG ISSUE. REGARDING WELL, LET ME BE CLEAR. WE HAVE REMEDIES THAT WE'RE DEPLOYING RIGHT NOW, AND WE THINK THAT'LL BE ADEQUATE TO CONTINUE TO COEXIST WITHOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD. AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO SAY OPENING DAY OF BASEBALL WAS SATURDAY. WE HAD A GREAT TIME. HAD A LOT OF CHILDREN OUT THERE. IT WAS PACKED. THERE ARE 460 CHILDREN PARTICIPATING IN OUR PROGRAM IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND WE HAD 390 OF THEM ON THE FIELD ON SATURDAY. SO REALLY, REALLY BIG HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH. AND THEN I'M GOING TO FINISH AND I'M SORRY, I USUALLY DON'T TAKE MUCH TIME IN THIS SEGMENT. I HAVE A CONCERN THAT WILL COME UP AND I'LL BRING IT UP AT THE NEXT READING OF THE E-BIKE ORDINANCE. SO WE DIFFERED ON THAT. OUR SECOND READING WILL COME BACK TO US. WHEN WILL THAT COME? NEXT MEETING. NEXT MEETING. OKAY. SO I'VE HAD SEVERAL I DON'T WANT TO SAY ELDERLY CITIZENS. SO IF ANY OF YOU ARE WATCHING THAT REACHED OUT TO ME, I'M NOT CALLING YOU ELDERLY, BUT SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE OF MY AGE THAT SUGGESTED THAT ELIMINATING E-BIKES ON THE BEACH IS JUST NOT NOT A FAIR THING TO DO, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE MY AGE WOULD LIKE TO RIDE THEIR BICYCLES ON THE BEACH, BUT THEY'RE NO LONGER INTERESTED IN PEDALING THROUGH THE SAND AND SO ON. SO THE E-BIKES ARE USEFUL. AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I WILL WANT, I'M NOT GOING TO ASK CHIEF VICK TO ADDRESS IT TODAY. BUT BEFORE I VOTE ON THE SECOND READING AS PRESENTED, I WANT TO KNOW, HAVE WE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH E-BIKES HITTING BEACH GOERS ON THE BEACH? AND IF NOT, WHAT IS OUR CONCERN ABOUT ELIMINATING E-BIKES ON THE BEACH WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF OPEN SPACE AND SO ON? SO I JUST WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO THINK ABOUT THAT IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE MY ASK, IS TO DISCUSS IT. IT IS NOT MY BELIEF AT THIS TIME THAT THAT I'M RIGHT OR ANYTHING. IT'S I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS THERE A COMPELLING REASON TO ELIMINATE E-BIKES ON THE BEACH? SO THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT. MOVING TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SIX. [6. CONSENT AGENDA] ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. THE OKAY. THE FIRST IS OKAY. IT'S TWO. RIGHT? IT'S ITEM 6A, DECLARE THE LISTED PROPERTIES AS SURPLUS AND AUTHORIZE DISPOSAL OF EACH OF THE MOST BENEFICIAL, EACH IN THE MOST BENEFICIAL WAY TO THE CITY. AND THEN ITEM SIX BE APPROVED, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-23. [00:45:02] SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PULL EITHER OF THESE ITEMS FROM CONSENT? ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2523. ACTUALLY, IT'S TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA? I'M SORRY. YEAH. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ITEM EIGHT. [8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 25-16] ACTION ON RESOLUTIONS EIGHT, A RESOLUTION, NUMBER 25-16, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING A THREE YEAR CONTRACT FOR BANKING SERVICES WITH THE BANK OF AMERICA AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COMMISSION. AS THE TITLE SAYS, RESOLUTION 2516 IS A THREE YEAR CONTRACT. WE DO OUR BANKING WITH BANK OF AMERICA. THE TERMS THREE YEARS, IT'S A 2% INCREASE IN FEE FOR THE COMPARED TO THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 2516. I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2516. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO EIGHT B. RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-18. [8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 25-18] A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE AGREEMENT FOR THE SARATOGA CIRCLE LIFT STATION SERVICE AREA TESTING, MONITORING, INSPECTIONS, AND REPORT AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MAYOR. SIR, RESOLUTION 2518 IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE RECENT PAST. IT'S A SMOKE TEST OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM. WHEN WE GET A LOT OF RAIN IN THE SARATOGA AREA, WE GET A LOT MORE FLOW INTO OUR SEWER SYSTEM. SO THERE'S INFILTRATION COMING IN SOMEWHERE. AND THIS SMOKE TEST ALLOWS US TO IDENTIFY WHERE IT'S COMING IN. SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THE AGREEMENT TO DO THE TESTING AT SARATOGA. SARATOGA CIRCLE LIFT STATION IN AN AMOUNT OF $32,091.61, WHICH IS IN THE BUDGET. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2518. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION. T HE SEWER GUY, ANYTHING HE WANTS. HEARING NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES ITEM EIGHT, C RESOLUTION, NUMBER 25-19 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY [8.C. RESOLUTION NO. 25-19] OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF DUVAL COUNTY FOR TEMPORARY, NON-EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT FOR CONSTRUCTION AND RELATED PURPOSES AT ANCHOR ACADEMY. SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. WE HAVE A, AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NAVAL AIR STATION TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY POTABLE WATER, AND THERE IS A GRANT THAT PROVIDES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR WATER MAIN TO THE SITE. TO GET THERE, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH ANCHOR ACADEMY. AND THIS IS A EASEMENT WHICH WOULD GRANT US ACCESS THROUGH THE ACADEMY TO PROVIDE WATER TO NAVAL STATION MAYPORT. AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 2519. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION 2519. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER RING. YES. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. MR. KILLINGSWORTH, WOULD THIS AFFECT THE SCHOOL IN ANY WAY ITS OPERATION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND THE SCHOOL BOARD? I'M CORRECT STEVE, THE SCHOOL BOARD'S ALREADY APPROVED IT? YES. AND THIS IS JUST HAPPENING UNDERGROUND, THEN? CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. AND I JUST, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE. THIS IS A RECIPROCITY AGREEMENT WHERE WE WILL PROVIDE EMERGENCY WATER TO THE BASE. OR THE BASE COULD PROVIDE EMERGENCY WATER TO US. SO IT'S NOT A AN AGREEMENT TO SELL WATER TO EACH OTHER. IT'S A RESILIENCY PLAY FOR EMERGENCIES. AND I THINK IT'S FABULOUS THAT WE'VE GOT THIS GOING ON. SO, THANK YOU, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. [8.D. RESOLUTION NO. 25-20] [00:50:02] ITEM 8D, RESOLUTION, NUMBER 25-20. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT. PARDON ME? TO EXECUTE A HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM CONTRACT MODIFICATION FOR PARTIAL FUNDING OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE AQUATIC GARDENS DRAINAGE PROJECT. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SUBSEQUENTLY EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH JAX. JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC. FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GRANT TO IMPLEMENT IMPROVEMENTS ON THE AQUATIC GARDENS DRAINAGE SYSTEM. THE INITIAL GO AROUND, THE DESIGN WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE BUDGET, SO WE HAD TO VALUE ENGINEER THAT. THAT REQUIRED US TO GO TO THE STATE AND HAVE THEM APPROVE TO BASICALLY ENSURE THAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE STATE STILL MET THEIR CRITERIA. THE STATE HAS APPROVED THAT. BUT BEFORE WE GET THE MODIFIED CONTRACT BACK, THEY'VE INFORMED US THAT THAT MAY TAKE TWO OR MORE MONTHS. THE CONTRACTOR, THOUGH, IS WILLING TO PRE ORDER THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE REQUIRED. GIVEN SOME ASSURANCE THAT IT'S OUR INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IS WHAT THIS WOULD DO, IS WHEN FEDM FORWARDS US THE REVISED CONTRACT, IT GIVES ME THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN THE CONTRACT RATHER THAN WAITING TILL THEN. THE STRUCTURES WILL TAKE 2 OR 3 MONTHS TO ARRIVE ONCE THEY'RE ORDERED. SO IT SAVES US BASICALLY A QUARTER OF A YEAR WITH THAT MR. MAYOR, I'D RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2520. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2520. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID, STEVE SWANN, OUR CITY ENGINEER, ON GETTING THIS GRANT. AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S ALL, IT'S NOT GOING TO COST OUR CITY A LOT, IF ANYTHING AT ALL. AND I KNOW IT HAD TO BEEN A LOT OF MANPOWER BEHIND THAT. AND I APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW THAT AQUATIC GARDENS WILL AS WELL. OKAY, I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT. I'M ALSO THANKFUL THAT WE'RE FINALLY AT THIS POINT. BUT THE CLOCK IS OUR ENEMY. SO, HURRICANE SEASON WILL BE UPON US. AND I APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS, MR. KILLINGSWORTH, TO ACCELERATE THAT BY GETTING THIS AGREEMENT DONE SO THAT THEY CAN AT LEAST ORDER THE MATERIAL. BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE GET THAT FINAL APPROVAL, IT'D BE NICE TO DROP THAT CULVERT INTO THE GROUND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE NEXT ONE. AND BY THE WAY, EVERYBODY I MENTIONED HURRICANE SEASON. WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A HURRICANE TO HAVE FLOODING IN AQUATIC GARDENS. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENT ON A GIVEN AFTERNOON. AND THERE, THERE WE GO. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL DODGE THAT BULLET AND GET SOMETHING EFFECTIVE IN PLAY. SO, THANK YOU, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. OKAY. SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ITEM 8E, RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-21, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, [8.E. RESOLUTION NO. 25-21] FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT WITH AKON CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. RESOLUTION 2521 IS THE RENOVATION OF THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER. WE HAVE OBTAINED A $220,000 WIND MITIGATION GRANT, WHICH WILL HARDEN THE ROOF, WINDOWS AND DOORS OF THE FACILITY. WE'VE GOTTEN $500,000 FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE TO RENOVATE THE BUILDING, AND ANOTHER $196,000, $997,000 BY A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT TO REPLACE THE PARKING AREA. SO THIS PROJECT, OTHER THAN OUR ACQUIRING THE PROJECT, THE RENOVATION IS LARGELY GRANT FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY OR OTHER AGENCIES, AND THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 2521, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO MODIFY THE BUDGET TO ADD $719,793.13 FOR RENOVATION AND EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER, AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH ACON CONSTRUCTION TO COMPLETE THE RENOVATIONS. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2525 DASH 21 AS READ. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO BE READY? STEVE, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? THE CONTRACT IS READY TO GO, SO I ACTUALLY HAVE IT RIGHT HERE FOR YOU. [00:55:02] IT'S THE, STEVE SWANN, THE CITY ENGINEER. THE CONTRACT IS READY TO GO. THE FIRST STEP IS TO HARDEN THE BUILDING. WE HAVE UNTIL JUNE 1ST, AND THEN WE LOSE THE MONEY. OKAY. AND THAT'S 100% GRANT. SO WE WE'RE GOING TO WORK AS FAST AS WE CAN. DOORS, WINDOWS, ROOF. AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS AND START TAKING INPUT ON WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IN THE BUILDING AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT WE'RE SORT OF GOING TO BE AHEAD OF THAT WITH HARDENING THE ROOF AND THE DOORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S THE BIG RUSH. AFTER THAT, WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME. WE HAVE THE $500,000 CITY OF JACKSONVILLE GRANT, AND WE CAN DECIDE REALLY HOW WE WANT TO BUILD OUT THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND THE EXTERIOR AND TIE IT IN WITH THE PARK. AND WE HAVE THE CDBG MONEY, WHICH WILL PAY FOR LANDSCAPING AND THE DRIVEWAY AND PARKING, AND WE'RE UNDER NO REAL TIGHT TIME FRAME ON THAT EITHER. SO WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME. SO, I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU HOW LONG, BUT I KNOW JUNE 1ST I GOTTA HAVE THE WINDOWS, DOORS AND ROOF DONE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T MODIFY THEM LATER. THANK YOU, STEVE. OKAY, SO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. [8.F. RESOLUTION NO. 25-22] MOVING TO WHAT IS THAT 8F? 8F RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-22, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE. EXECUTE TASK ORDERS WITH HANSON PROFESSIONAL SERVICES TO COMPLETE DESIGN OF THE CUTLASS DRIVE BOX, CULVERT EXPANSION AND DITCH WIDENING PROJECT AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS ONE'S BEEN UNDER THE WORKS FOR A WHILE, BUT IT'S TIMED WITH AQUATICS, SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE DESIGN FOR CUTLASS BEFORE WE HAD AQUATIC UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE TIED TOGETHER. SO WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WILL PAY 90% OF THIS. IT'S AN $84,027 DESIGN FOR ITS DITCH WIDENING ON THE DITCH THAT RUNS TO AQUATIC AND SOME CULVERT REPLACEMENTS. BUT THIS ISN'T THE CONSTRUCTION. THIS IS JUST THE DESIGN PHASE. WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2522. RECOMMEND WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2522. SECOND. OKAY. WE'LL GIVE THE SECOND TO THIS GUY. AT THIS TIME, I DIDN'T FINISH THE WORD. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. THIS IS THIS IS BASED ON OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FROM YEARS AGO. AND IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN SEQUENCE. SO WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME, BUT IT'S FINALLY IT'S NEXT ON THE LIST. I YEAH, I WANT TO COMMENT ALSO. THIS IS BIG. SO THIS IS THE DITCH BEHIND THE HOUSING ON CUTLASS DRIVE THAT RUNS FROM PLAZA ALL THE WAY DOWN TO, I GUESS. WELL, IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE POND. SO THIS THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. WHEN WE FINALLY GET THAT UNDERWAY, THAT RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN OF IT. BUT THAT IN TANDEM WITH WHAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN WITH THE CULVERT EXPANSION FOR A QUATIC GARDENS, I'M HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL SIGNIFICANTLY SOLVE OUR FLOODING PROBLEMS THERE. I'M NOT I WHO KNOWS WHETHER IT'LL BE 100% SOLUTION, BUT IT'S A STRONG STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU, MR. SWANN, FOR YOUR CONTINUED EFFORTS ON THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. NINE A, AN ORDINANCE, NUMBER 95-25-126. [9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 95-25-126, Introduction and First Reading] THIS IS INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA. AMENDING CHAPTER FOUR ANIMALS TO MODIFY THE CLASSIFICATION OF DOGS AS DANGEROUS IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW TO ADD DISORDER. DISTURBING THE PEACE PROVISION TO AMEND THE RUNNING AT LARGE AND CITATIONS AND PENALTIES SECTIONS TO ADD A NEW IMPOUND AND BOARDING FEES PROVISION. PROVIDING FOR RULES AND REGULATIONS. PROVIDING FOR PROHIBITIONS. PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ORDINANCE 9520 5-1 26 IS WHAT WE COMMONLY REFER TO AS THE DANGEROUS DOG ORDINANCE. THIS ORDINANCE WAS MODIFIED LARGELY TO MAKE OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE COMPLIANT WITH STATE STATUTE. AND WE REVISITED SOME OF OUR FEES. IF THE COMMISSION HAS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL INVITE THE CHIEF UP. [01:00:05] BUT WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, WE WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 95-25-126. MOTION. WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 9525 126. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION. HEARING. I HAVE ONE, YES. AND MAYBE, CHIEF, I KNOW WE'RE FOLLOWING THE STATE. WHAT WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE MAJOR CHANGE IN OUR REGULATION OR OUR ORDINANCE? THE COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTE. IT'S THAT'S IT HAS MORE THAN ONCE BITTEN. AND THAT'S HUGE FOR US THAT THAT COMPONENT HAS TO BE MET. WE CAN'T, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH THE STATE. SO LEGALLY WE HAVE TO FALL IN LINE. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT WITH A DOG AND THERE'S BEEN TWO PREVIOUS INCIDENTS, THAT'S THE TRIGGER OR ONE PREVIOUS INCIDENT, AND THIS IS NOW THE SECOND ONE. ONE PREVIOUS. AND IT WOULD BE THE SECOND UPON THE SECOND. OKAY. AND TYPICALLY ON THE FIRST BITE WE WOULD ISSUE A PROPENSITY LETTER AND LET THAT PERSON KNOW, HEY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. HERE'S THE STATUTE SAYS AND NEXT TIME THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THE DECLARATION OF DOG BEING DANGEROUS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT ENTAILS ALSO. SO WHAT DOES HAPPEN TO THE DOG OR TO THE HUMAN? WELL, AFTER THE SECOND BITE? YES. SO THERE'S A DANGEROUS DOG HEARING TO DECLARE THE DOG DANGEROUS. THERE ARE STIPULATIONS IN STATUTE. THERE'S PROBABLY 10 OR 11 THINGS THAT THE OWNER HAS TO DO. AS FAR AS SECURING THEIR YARD GETTING INSURANCE FOR THE DOG, MAKING SURE THE DOG CAN'T BE OUT IN PUBLIC WITHOUT A MUZZLE. SO THERE'S ALL THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS PERSON HAS TO MEET. THEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP THAT DOG OR THEY HAVE THE OFFER TO SURRENDER IT. BUT THEN THE DOG IS. THE DOG IS TYPICALLY PUT DOWN. THANK YOU. I'LL HAVE A WORD WITH MY DOG. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. KEEP YOUR DOG. FEROCIOUS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM NINE B, ORDINANCE NUMBER 57-25-25. [9.B. ORDINANCE NO. 57-25-25, Introduction and First Reading] INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. COUNTY OF DUVAL. STATE OF FLORIDA. AMENDING SECTION 13 DASH TWO CAMPING AND OBSTRUCTING PUBLIC STREETS. STREETS, PUBLIC PLACES PROHIBITED. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT. PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION. PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ORDINANCE NUMBER 57-25-25 IS SIMILAR TO THE DANGEROUS DOG IN THAT IT'S BRINGING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE STATUTE. AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ORDINANCE, I WILL INVITE A CHIEF PICKUP. WITH THAT, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 57-25-25. I RECOMMEND WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 57-25-25. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION. IS THIS MORE COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW? RIGHT. THE NEW CHANGES AT THE STATE LAW. OKAY. ANY I GUESS, THE SAME QUESTION, ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT? VIC GUALILLO, CHIEF OF POLICE? NO, NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT. THERE'S A THERE WAS ALSO A SUPREME COURT DECISION. OUR PREVIOUS ORDINANCE REQUIRED THE OFFICERS TO NOT ARREST SOMEONE IF THERE WAS NOT A SHELTER BED AVAILABLE. THAT WAS COMPLIANT WITH THE NINTH CIRCUIT RULING THAT THE US SUPREME COURT SUBSEQUENTLY SAID IT'S NOT REQUIRED. THAT REQUIREMENT IS NOT ENFORCEABLE. SO WE'RE MOVING THAT NOW. THE OFFICERS WE STILL HAVE PROVISIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT TRY AND OFFER SOMEONE WHO IS CAMPING OPTIONS FOR SERVICES FIRST UP AND TO INCLUDING THE POINT WHERE THE OFFICERS WERE TOLD, LOOK, IF THIS PERSON WANTS A RIDE TO SHELTER SERVICES, WE CAN GET THEM THERE. WE'LL TAKE THEM IN A POLICE CAR TO THOSE SHELTER SERVICES. IF SOMEONE CONTINUES TO REFUSE TO LEAVE AFTER BEING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY THEY CAN BE ARRESTED. SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT A SHELTER BED BE AVAILABLE. WE ARE GOING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE WE OFFER THEM SERVICES EVERY TIME WE ENCOUNTER SOMEONE. SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THEIR STUFF? THAT'S UP TO YOUR DISCRETION. SO LUCKILY WE HAVEN'T HAD A LARGE TENT YET. WE DO HAVE A WAREHOUSE WE CAN PUT IT IN. THERE ARE DATE RANGES IN PLACE FOR FOUND PROPERTY AND SEIZED PROPERTY THAT WE WILL KEEP THEM AND NOTICE THE PERSON. HEY, LOOK, YOU CAN HAVE YOU'LL HAVE 90 DAYS TO COME CLAIM YOUR PROPERTY UNLESS YOU GIVE US DIRECTIONS OTHERWISE. SO, WE WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO PROTECT THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY. BUT WE WON'T HOLD IT FOREVER. [01:05:02] BUT THEY WILL HAVE A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND PICK IT UP, OR HAVE SOMEONE COME PICK IT UP FOR THEM. 90 DAYS IS REASONABLE. SO, I'M JUST GOING TO COMMENT. I THINK WE'RE THAT'S VERY IT'S VERY THOUGHTFUL BY OUR CITY TO DO THAT AND I APPLAUD THAT. I BELIEVE BOTH NEPTUNE BEACH AND JACKSONVILLE BEACH DO NOT STORE ITEMS FOR CAMPERS. THAT BEING SAID, MY ONLY ASK ABOUT THIS THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER IS IF WE EVER, IF WE DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND I'M NOT OBJECTING TO THAT, THAT WE NOT DO IT FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. SO, IF WE'VE HAD TO PUT THINGS INTO STORAGE FOR SOMEBODY MULTIPLE TIMES, I THINK WE GO AHEAD AND SHUT THAT DOWN. SO, I WOULD, I WILL CONFER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THAT ONE THERE. THERE MAY BE SOME LEGAL REQUIREMENTS AND CASE LAW THAT WE REQUIRE. WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S IN MY DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER TWO CITIES. THAT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN. SO I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR. THANK YOU CHIEF. WHERE ARE WE AT?OKAY , ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 5725-25. SO ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 20-25-178, INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. [9.C. ORDINANCE NO. 20-25-178, Introduction and First Reading] AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2025-178 IS RELATED TO THE THREE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. SO IT'S AQUATIC GARDENS, MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER, AND CUTLASS DRIVE. WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE EXPENSES AND REVENUES, DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE ALL GOING TO BE AT THE TIME. NOW IT'S LOCKED DOWN. SO, WE'RE ADJUSTING THE BUDGET TO REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT WERE NEEDED IN BOTH THE REVENUE SIDE AND THE EXPENSE SIDE. WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 20-25-178. RECOMMEND WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025-178. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I. I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. AND THAT'S THE END OF THAT PART OF THE AGENDA. SO MOVING TO ITEM 11, CITY ATTORNEY, WHAT SAY YOU? I WON'T GET IN THE WAY OF AN EFFICIENT MEETING. I HAVE NOTHING TO COMMENT ON. DONNA. SAME HERE. THANKS. OKAY. ITEM 12 CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS, STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER BOLE. [12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER] YEAH, I'LL BE I'LL BE BRIEF. THE MAYOR TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON IT AGAIN. 2519 HAVING THAT CONNECTION WITH THE BASE FOR WATER THAT COULD SAVE LIVES. YES. HAVING BEEN THROUGH ONE OF THOSE IN KATRINA WITH THE NAVY AND WATCH THE AGREEMENTS. SO THERE'S NO DOUBT THEY TURNED THE VALVE ON AND WE GO BOTH WAYS. THAT'S HUGE. THAT'S HUGE FOR OUR CITY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. I TALKED TO DONNA. I GUESS I'M GOING ON THE RECORD. I WON'T BE HERE AT THE NEXT MEETING. I'LL BE WITH YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN WASHINGTON, DC. THANKS. NOT REPRESENTING US. YOU WILL BE MISSED. I DON'T THINK SO. MY CONDOLENCES. I'LL TRY NOT. I'M GETTING OUT OF TOWN. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I'LL TRY NOT TO LEGISLATE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT YOU WANTED TO OPINE ON. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GRANT. YES. I'LL BE QUICK, TOO. WITH REGARD TO THE FARMERS MARKET, I ECHO THE MAYOR'S COMMENTS EARLIER. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EMAILS OUT THERE. AND THE ONE THING IS, LET'S TRY NOT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF VENDORS THAT ARE IN THE CURRENT FARMERS MARKET. AND I'VE, YOU KNOW, REPLIED TO EMAILS AND ANYBODY I'VE SPOKEN TO THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING AS MANY VENDORS AS WHAT'S REASONABLE. BUT THE BIG THING IS GETTING THE VENDOR PARKING OFF SITE. I THINK VENDOR PARKING FOOTPRINT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 50. AND THAT'S FROM JULIE. I GOT THAT INFORMATION. SO, SHE KNOWS WHERE I STAND, AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ASKED ME, KNOWS WHERE I STAND, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD. AND THEN YOU KNOW, WHEN I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER, AGAIN, KUDOS TO THE YOU AND THE TEAM. THE AQUATIC GARDENS WAS A BIG PART OF IT. THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS A BIG PART OF IT. WE. BUT BETWEEN THOSE TWO AND A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, WE'VE GOTTEN LIKE 400 OR $4 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICES. AND PROJECT GRANT MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR. ALL IN GREAT PROJECTS BENEFITING OUR CITY. SO, YOU KNOW, GOOD KUDOS TO THE TEAM FOR ALL THE EFFORTS TO PURSUE THOSE GRANTS AND KEEP UP [01:10:03] THE GOOD GRANT WORK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KELLY. I STILL HAVE PTSD FROM ORLANDO TRAFFIC. I WILL NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THIRD STREET AGAIN. IT WAS, IT TOOK ME AN HOUR AND A HALF TO TRAVEL THREE EXITS. OH, IT WAS JUST. BUT THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS AND GOING TO THAT THAT EDUCATIONAL EVENT AND GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AT WHAT YOU DO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RING. JUST THAT I'M HAPPY THAT WE WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT WITH AB FARMERS MARKET. I'M GLAD THAT OUR BASEBALLERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLAY ON THAT FIELD. AND THIS IS WHAT SMALL TOWN POLITICS REALLY ARE ABOUT. I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT. I KNOW THERE'S SOME FEDERAL THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T ENVY THAT. I'D RATHER DEAL WITH BASEBALL AND FARMERS MARKET. SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH TO STAFF AGAIN AND ESPECIALLY CITY ENGINEER FOR THE HARD GRANT WORK THAT HE DID ON CUTLASS AND AQUATIC GARDENS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD TONIGHT, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST FINISH UP FOR CLARITY, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER OF VENDORS AT THE MARKET THIS PAST SUNDAY. YESTERDAY I BELIEVE IT WAS 57. I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE NUMBER JULIE SAID, YES. SO WE'RE AT 57 AND UNLESS I HEAR SOMETHING EXTRAORDINARY, IT WENT PRETTY WELL. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, I AND I THINK IF JULIE WAS HERE, SHE'D CONFIRM. BUT I THINK HER TOP END WAS 60 SOMETHING OR 70 ISH VENDORS. DO YOU REMEMBER? I BELIEVE WE THE TOP END WE GOT WAS 75 OR RIGHT AROUND THAT NUMBER. WE WERE OVER 70. YEAH. SO AT THIS POINT, IF I'M CLEAR WITH YOU, YOU HAVE ALREADY TOLD HER SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO REDUCE TO 50. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS SHE CAN HAVE ONE FOOD TRUCK WHERE THE GATE IS INTO THE PARK WHERE THE DIAGONAL SLASH IS. SHE CAN ROTATE IT. IT COULD BE THE SAME TRUCK. WE DON'T CARE. BUT ONE FOOD TRUCK EVERY WEEK THERE. AND THEN THERE'S THREE PARKING SPACES. THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PARK OVER BY THE SKATE PARK. AND SHE CAN HAVE THREE TRAILERS OR A TRUCK, BUT THEY HAVE TO FIT WITHIN THE PARKING SPACES. SO I BELIEVE SHE HAS A MEAT VENDOR WHO HAS A REFRIGERATED TRAILER. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. I THINK IT WAS. THE OTHER ONE WAS LIKE A CHEESE VENDOR THAT IS IN A REFRIGERATED TRAILER. AND THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO'S IN A VAN THAT WOULD FIT IN THE PARKING SPACES. SO SHE HAS THOSE THREE PARKING SPACES AND THE DIAGONAL SLASHED. AND WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE EVERYTHING THAT WOULD CONSUME A PARKING SPACE. SO WE'RE NOW WORKING ON TRYING TO FIND A SPACE WHERE WE CAN SHUTTLE THE VENDORS, BECAUSE MOST OF THE VENDORS GET HERE EARLY AND THEY PARK UNDER THE TREES ON PLAZA. SO IF WE CAN MOVE THEM OUT, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. SO THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.