Mar 24, 2025 Commission Meeting

WOW. VERY NICE. GOOD EVENING. RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS.

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I'LL LEAD OFF ON THE INVOCATION IF I CAN FIND IT.

DEAR GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE CHANGE OF SEASONS.

AS WE LEAVE BEHIND A WINTER THAT WORE OUT, ITS WELCOME.

WE STEP INTO SPRING WITH A FRESH HEART, READY FOR NATURE TO TAKE ITS COURSE.

MAY THIS SEASON BRING JOY AND LIGHT, PEACE AND PROSPERITY AND A SPIRIT IN FULL BLOOM.

AMEN. IF YOU'LL JOIN ME, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THIS MEETING OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH DATED MARCH 24TH, 2025, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. MATT. WE HAVE A NEW CLERK.

MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON MARCH 10TH,

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

HOWEVER, COMMA, AT LEAST THE MINUTES FROM THE FROM THE SPECIAL MEETING, THE JOINT MEETING WERE SO VAGUE THAT WE REALLY HAVE NO RECORD OF ANYONE'S POSITION AND WHEN THEY SPOKE AND I.

I'M HOPING THERE'S A HAPPY MEDIUM BETWEEN. YEP, SHE TALKED INSTEAD OF SAYING YES AND SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF X, Y, Z. SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING A REVIEW AND ADDITIONS TO THE MINUTES? YES. OKAY. SINCE THAT WOULD BE DONE BY DONNA AND SHE'S NOT HERE, I WOULD SUGGEST WE JUST PUSH THOSE MINUTES TO THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. SO WE'LL REMOVE THE MINUTES FROM MARCH 10TH, 2025 AND MOVE ON TO ITEM ONE.

B APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE JOINT WORKSHOP BETWEEN THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE, SC, HELD ON MARCH 13TH. THAT'S THE ONE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S ITEM ONE B. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? THAT'S FINE. OKAY.

ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS HEARING? NONE. THE MEETING STANDS AS SUBMITTED.

THOSE ARE THE MEETINGS FOR MARCH 10TH, 2025. NOW MOVING INTO COURTESY OF THE

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]

SPEAK ON YOUR TOPIC. MADAM CLERK, I HAVE THREE SPEAKERS TONIGHT.

OKAY. AND I HAVE KEN SIMONE TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.

OH, I'M SO SORRY. MR. MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS THOUGHT ONLY THREE MINUTES, SO I HAD THE EXPEDITED VERSION.

BUT I'LL TRY MY BEST TO GET TO THE FIVE MINUTE VERSION, WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT.

I HAVE TO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION GENERATOR PROJECT.

BUT THE GENERATOR, THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION HAS SEVERAL PROJECTS IN IT, SO I PLAN ON DISCUSSING THOSE MORE THAN THIS EVENING FOR THE GENERATOR I JUST WANT IN CONTEXT. THE GENERATOR WAS APPROVED IN THE DECEMBER 24TH MEETING FOR $95,000.

THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE RESIDENTS, THIS IS A GENERATOR THAT'S TEN FOOT LONG, 5.5FT TALL, FOUR FOOT WIDE, AND GOING TEN FOOT IN THE AIR.

IT IS HIGHER THAN ANY FENCE LINE OR PRIVACY ENCLOSURE OR ANYTHING THAT COULD PROTECT IT FROM US SEEING IT.

IT ALSO HAS OBVIOUSLY AS A GENERATOR. SO THE SOUND REQUIREMENTS ARE LISTED OFTEN IN EPA, BY FEMA, BY HUD REQUIREMENTS. AND THIS PARTICULAR GENERATOR DOES EXCEED ALL OF THOSE SUGGESTED REQUIREMENTS, EVEN IF IT MEETS THE BARE MINIMUM OF 75DB, WHICH IS SOME OF THE RATINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THE ENCLOSURE THAT'S PURCHASED.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS FOR LOWER SOUND. WE CONTACTED MANY OF THE PERSONS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT FROM OUR OWN CITY OFFICIALS TO RING POWER, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, THE CONTRACTORS WHO'S DOING THE INSTALLATION.

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WE HAVE OUR OWN CODE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, AND I HAVE IT WITH ME.

IT REQUIRES A SITE PLAN. IT REQUIRES A SLAB DESIGN REQUIREMENTS AND OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON THIS PROJECT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON ANY GENERATORS FOR THE CONTRACTOR WHO'S PUTTING IN THE SLAB TODAY, WHO WE SPOKE TO, WHO ARE BEHIND OUR HOME. IT STATES IN HIS SCOPE OF WORK THAT NO PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

SO IT'S BEYOND ME TO BELIEVE THAT WHEN SITE REQUIREMENTS ARE NEEDED, SPECIFICATIONS ARE NEEDED, SLAB REQUIREMENTS, AND WHERE IT'S EVEN GOING, THE CITY COULD NOT INFORM US EVEN WHERE IT'S GOING.

IN POSITION BEHIND OUR HOME. THIS GENERATOR IS IN LINE OF SIGHT OF FIVE RESIDENCES GOING TO BE USED EVERY WEEK.

EVERY TUESDAY MORNING FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME MITIGATION TO BE DONE, SOME SITE PLANS AND PERMITTING AS REQUIRED TO BE DONE ON THIS UNIT.

WE COULDN'T GET AN ANSWER FROM THE CITY OFFICIALS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF THE CITY AS TO WHY THESE CONCERNS WOULDN'T BE ADDRESSED.

EMAILS, PHONE CALLS FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS.

WE'RE MORE FRUSTRATED BY THE MERE FACT THAT WHEN WE HAVE A CITY THAT WE'RE SAYING HAD PROJECTS AT THE AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT WE'RE SAYING, NOT PERMITTING THOSE PROJECTS AFFECTS THE RESIDENTS AND THEN CAN'T GET A RESPONSE FROM OUR HIGHEST LEVEL OF CITY LEADERSHIP.

I SAY OUR CITY IS BROKEN. THE PROCESS IS BROKEN.

THAT'S MY CONCERN, BECAUSE IF WE COULD GET A RESPONSE AND GET THOSE ISSUES RESOLVED, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

I WOULDN'T BE BRINGING THEM TO YOUR ATTENTION.

WE HAVE WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH WHOEVER WOULD WANT TO HEAR US.

WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CHIEF MITIGATION OFFICER FOR FEMA.

WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT FROM OTHER CITIES.

WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CITIES WHO HAVE HAD BEST PRACTICES OBSERVED IN TERMS OF GENERATORS, LIFT STATION REHABILITATION AND EVERYTHING, EVEN GOING ON WITH THE ACCESS ROAD BEHIND OUR HOUSE.

IN TERMS OF THE RESOLUTION 2410 PROJECT, WHICH HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THAT DECEMBER MEETING.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO APPEAL TO YOU FOR MY ASKS.

MY FIRST ONE IS TO PLEASE, AT LEAST IN TERMS OF SOUND, PLEASE CONSIDER MITIGATION.

AND SOME OF THOSE MITIGATION TECHNIQUES ARE A SOUND ATTENUATED FENCE, 10 TO 12 FOOT HIGH.

MANY CITIES IN FLORIDA ARE DOING THEM. I ALSO ASK YOU TO ALL PAUSE ANY CONTINUED WORK ON THAT PROJECT UNTIL THE PERMITS ARE COMPLETED APPROPRIATELY, ESPECIALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CHECKLIST FOR CODE FOR GENERATORS.

PLEASE STOP IT. I ASK YOU NOT TO PAUSE ANYTHING TO DO WITH GENERATOR INSTALLATION, BUT ON THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF, PLEASE PAUSE THE PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE ENCLOSURE BECAUSE RING POWER THE REPRESENTATIVE.

FROM THERE I TALKED TO HIM IN PERSON. THERE ARE SOLUTIONS FOR QUIETER GENERATOR ENCLOSURES, ALL OF WHICH ANY ADDITIONAL COST WOULD BE COVERED BY FEMA 75% OF COST.

AND THEN THE LAST IS I ASK FOR A MEETING WITH THE MR. MAYOR, WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THOSE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF APPROVING THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND BRINGING THEM TO YOUR ATTENTION.

WHEN I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHEN PROJECTS ARE BROUGHT FOR YOU TO VOTE ON AND APPROVE FUNDING, THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, THAT YOU'RE REALLY NOT HEARING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN FACT, THE CODE FLORIDA CODE REQUIRES THAT NEIGHBORING AND NEIGHBORHOOD'S RESIDENTS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT YOU INTERACT WITH THE PEOPLE LIVING ADJACENT TO THESE PROJECTS. THE LAST PIECE I'LL ASK IS THAT YOU BRING UP NEW BUSINESS, AND THAT IS TO REQUIRE ANY PROJECTS THAT THE CITY PLAN ON DOING THAT ARE TOUCHING A PROPERTY OR ON THEIR PROPERTY, THAT YOU PLEASE REQUIRE THAT THE CITY CONTACT THEM EVEN BEFORE WE PROPOSE THE WORK, SO THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ENGAGED WITH THE CITY, ALL OF WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE WERE HERE IN MARCH OF 24 TALKING ABOUT THE VERY SAME ISSUES, THE REASON WHY THE RESOLUTION 2410 ACCESS ROAD PROJECT WAS VOTED DOWN WAS BECAUSE OF THIS LACK OF ENGAGEMENT WITH THE RESIDENTS.

SCOPE OF WORK WAS INCORRECT. AND HERE I AM TODAY ABOUT THE SAME PROJECTS AS WE WERE IN TOUCH WITH THE SAME OFFICIALS FOR THE SAME AREA.

SO THANKS FOR LISTENING. I ASK YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ITEMS THAT I ASKED FOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RESPONSE.

ANY QUESTIONS? I'M SURE GLAD TO ANSWER. THANK YOU, MR. SIMON. WE'RE. WE'RE GOOD. YEAH. WE WON'T TAKE WE WON'T DO QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO WAIT TILL SHE HANDS THOSE OUT.

SO DON'T START THE CLOCK YET. ARE YOU STARTING IT AT.

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NO. THAT'S OKAY. YOU DID A MIRACULOUS RECOVERY ON THAT.

OKAY. ARE WE READY? WE WILL START. SO, THE PICTURES ARE WORTH $1 MILLION TO ME.

SO I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS LIFT STATION AND WHY IT'S DIFFERENT AND IMPORTANT.

I STOOD HERE A YEAR AGO THIS MONTH AFTER FINDING OUT ABOUT THE WIDENING THE ROAD PROJECT, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WAS REFERENCED AGAIN IN THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING AS IT'S BEEN A YEAR.

I CAN REINTRODUCE IT. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. WE HAD MEETINGS AFTER THAT, AS KEN MENTIONED, AND WE SPOKE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED ABOUT OUR CONCERNS.

SO I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

THIS FIRST PART IS, OF COURSE, THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE GENERATOR WHERE IT'S GOING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROPANE TANK IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE EXHAUST IS GOING TO COME OUT, BUT I KNOW THAT BY SPEAKING TO TWO CITY ENGINEERS TOLD ME THAT SOUND TRAVELS AT 90 DEGREE ANGLES. FROM THE SOURCE. I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING.

AND HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT WHEREVER THE GAS FUMES COME OUT, THEY TURN INTO A PLUME AND THEY STAY THAT WAY AND THEY MOVE WHICHEVER WAY THEY GO.

IF IT COMES OUT AT ABOUT 5FT TO 3FT, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF SHIFT.

THAT WAY. IF THE WIND BLOWS IT TO MY HOUSE, IT'S GOING TO COME RIGHT THROUGH MY FENCE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M STARTING. THERE WERE NO PERMIT WAS ALSO REQUIRED FOR THE WIDENING OF THE STREET PROJECT FOR THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION. NO PERMIT WAS REQUIRED. EXCUSE ME. SO THAT MEANT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO COMPLY TO CODE STANDARD ZONING OR ANY OF THAT WHEN YOU DON'T ASK FOR A PERMIT, THAT'S FRIGHTENING IN ITSELF. SO IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS' HOMES AS WELL AS OURS.

THE FIRST NEIGHBOR HOME IS RIGHT BEHIND THE LIFT STATION.

IT'S A TWO STORY BROWN HOME. IT'S BEEN RECENTLY REMODELED.

THEY LIVE PRIMARILY ON THE SECOND FLOOR, AND THE KIDS PLAY THERE.

THE TWO KIDS IN FRONT OF THIS FENCE OBVIOUSLY DON'T PLAY THERE, BUT THEY PLAY RIGHT BEHIND IT BECAUSE THE LIFT STATION FENCE IS RIGHT WHERE THEY PLAY.

SO I WANT YOU TO SEE THAT THE NEXT PART. THIS IS OUR HOUSE.

IT'S PRETTY WIDE BACKGROUND, BACKWARDS PIE. WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE A GREAT VIEW OF THE GENERATOR AT TEN FEET TALL.

AND WE WILL HEAR EVERYTHING. WE WILL SEE EVERYTHING, AND WE WILL SMELL EVERYTHING.

SO WE ARE VERY CONCERNED. THE THIRD ONE BOTHERS ME MORE THAN ANY OF THESE.

THE LIFT STATION IS RIGHT UNDER THIS YELLOW GENERATOR.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HER FENCE. AND THAT WET WELL IS, YOU KNOW, SEMI-SUBMERGED.

IT'S RIGHT WHERE THAT RED DOT IS. IN HER KIDS, WHICH I COULDN'T IMPOSE ON.

HERE THEY HAVE A LITTLE CLIMBING STATION SANDBOX.

THEY PUT THEIR POOL THERE. THIS IS WHERE KIDS PLAY RIGHT BEHIND THEM.

THAT'S WHY I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS NOT OKAY. TO NOT MITIGATE THIS LIFT STATION, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 12 HOMES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED DIRECTLY, SOME GREATER THAN OTHERS. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE TIME TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, BUILD ALL THAT.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. THIS IS WHAT I HEARD.

WELL, DON'T WORRY, THE GENERATORS GOING BEHIND THE FENCE.

IT'S OKAY. SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE GATE, WHICH ARE NOT A FENCE.

THERE'S TWO VERY WIDE METAL FRAMED GATES WITH SLAT BOARDS ON IT.

THERE ARE GAPS. THE RED LINE WOULD INDICATE THAT SIX FEET, THE BOTTOM PART INDICATES THE GAPS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE OTHER VISUAL GAPS BETWEEN THE FENCE.

THE YELLOW LINES ARE ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE GENERATOR.

I DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH RIGHT, BUT I HAVE THE HEIGHT RIGHT.

THAT IS NOT HELPING. THIS FENCE IS SERVING NO PURPOSE EXCEPT TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT.

I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. SO AS I SPOKE TO THE DAYTONA BEACH ENGINEER, HE TOLD ME OF MANY THINGS THAT HE WOULD DO BECAUSE I SHARED IT WITH HIM.

I SAID, WALK ME THROUGH IT. I'M JUST A NERVOUS CITIZEN.

I'M NOT GETTING ANSWERS. AND HE DID. SO I HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM HIM ON THINGS THAT WERE PRETTY EASY TO DO, AND HE SAID, I WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THAT IN THE SCOPE OF MY PROJECT.

I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN FEMA FUNDING. I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN EXTRA 5%, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR A CODE OR AN ORDINANCE, YOU CAN EVEN GET A HIGHER PERCENTAGE. THAT'S WHAT HE WOULD HAVE DONE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM. SO I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A FEW NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW.

THEY ARE ANXIOUS TO HEAR ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE PROJECT AND HOW IT IMPACTS AFFECTS THEM.

RIGHT NOW THEY KNOW IT'S THREE. I'M GOING TO SEPARATE.

THIS IS THE GENERATOR. PROPANE TANK. IS THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD STILL GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND THREE THE BIG REHAB PROJECT. THOSE ARE THREE BIG THINGS THAT WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

I'M THE ONLY PERSON THAT KNOWS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

THAT'S A LITTLE SCARY BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT IS TO OUR HOME.

I ALSO SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF MITIGATION FOR THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT BECAUSE I SAID, YOU'RE KIND OF OVER THESE FEMA GRANTS. WHAT HAPPENS IF CODES ARE NOT APPLIED ORDINANCES? I SAID, I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN IN COASTAL CITY HERE.

I DIDN'T TELL HER WHERE I WAS FROM. AND SHE SAID TO ME THE CODES AND ORDINANCES WOULD BE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY'S RESPONSIBILITY AND PERMITTING IF THEY'RE NOT IN

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I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CALL HER. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SEND HER ANYTHING.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A RESPONSE AND CONSIDERATION FROM CITY STAFF TO ADDRESS THESE WITH US AND REALLY MAKE SOME CHANGES, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS SIMON.

HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, TOM UNDERWOOD.

WELL, I'M HERE TO MAYBE BRING A LITTLE JOY IN YOUR HEARTS AND SUPPORT AN ORDINANCE YOU ARE VOTING ON THIS EVENING.

MAYOR FORD, BILL, CITY COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

MY NAME IS TOM UNDERWOOD. I'M A RESIDENT OF ATLANTIC BEACH, HAVING MOVED HERE A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO.

MY WIFE AND I ARE LIFELONG CYCLISTS. IN FACT, WE GOT MARRIED ALMOST 50 YEARS AGO ON A CYCLING TRIP IN THE CANADIAN ROCKIES.

SIX YEARS AGO, MY WIFE AND I SWITCHED TO E-BIKES, ENABLING US TO CONTINUE OUR JOY WE EXPERIENCE IN CYCLING.

IN OUR YOUNGER YEARS, SINCE ACQUIRING E-BIKES.

WE'VE RIDDEN NEARLY 20,000 MILES ON ALL SORTS OF CITIES, ROADS, BIKE PATHS IN THE US AND IN EUROPE.

AND OUR EXPERIENCE ATLANTIC BEACH, ALONG WITH NEPTUNE AND JAX BEACH, PROVIDE THE VERY BEST URBAN OPPORTUNITIES FOR RIDING TO STORES, RESTAURANTS AND HEALTH FACILITIES. NEXT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE KEVIN HOGENCAMP FOR INSPIRING BIKE SAFETY AB, AN INFORMAL GROUP OF CYCLING AT AB RESIDENTS WHOSE PURPOSE HAS BEEN TO PROMOTE BIKE SAFETY IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS WHO DESERVE RECOGNITION, PARTICULARLY REGARDING THE PRESENCE OF BIKE SAFETY DATA ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

HOWEVER, KEVIN STANDS OUT REGARDING HIS CONTINUED SUPPORT OF BIKE SAFETY ISSUES IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER, AND ANY OTHERS INVOLVED WITH RESOLVING THE BIKING TRAFFIC CONFUSION ALONG BEACH AVENUE BY RECOGNIZING THE EXISTING USE OF BEACH AVENUE AS A TWO WAY BIKE PATH, POSTING SIGNS THAT INFORM VEHICLE TRAFFIC TO BE AWARE OF BIKE TRAFFIC FROM THE LEFT, AND PROVIDING A YIELD SIGN FOR CYCLISTS.

YOU HAVE IMPROVED THE SAFETY AND ENJOYMENT OF BEACH AVENUE.

BEACH AVENUE IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BIKE FEATURES IN OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

THANK YOU AGAIN REGARDING ORDINANCE 25-29, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS EVENING.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON. I APPRECIATE THE CLEAR DEFINITIONS PROVIDED FOR BIKES, MOTORIZED VEHICLES, MOTORIZED DEVICES, AND SIDEWALKS. I SUPPORT THE REGULATIONS FOR OPERATION ON CITY PROPERTY, INCLUDING SIDEWALK SPEED LIMIT OF TEN MILES PER HOUR AND LIMITING E-BIKES ON THE BEACH TO NON-POWERED USE.

AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON ORDINANCE 7525-29.

AND FINALLY, I ALSO APPRECIATE THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT PROVIDES DIRECTIONS FOR SUPPORT THAT SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT BY OUR ATLANTIC BEACH POLICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. UNDERWOOD. THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY.

I'LL CLOSE. COURTESY OF THE FLOOR, AND WE'LL MOVE TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS MR.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]

COMMISSION. FOR YOU, YOU HAVE THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ENTERING INTO OUR SPRINGTIME SUMMER PROGRAMING.

THE WEEKENDS ARE FULL. IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE INVITES, IF YOU WOULD LET ME KNOW.

AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THEM. I KNOW MY CALENDAR IS WELL POPULATED NOW.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE 90 DAY CALENDAR.

COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE CONSENSUS. OKAY. SO APPROVED.

SO WE HAVE FLOWBIRD PARKING KIOSK OUT AT THE 18TH STREET PARKING LOT.

AND WHEN THE CITY ORIGINALLY GOT THEM, THERE WAS THIS IDEA THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A FIVE YEAR LIFE.

APPARENTLY, IN THE SALTWATER ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY SEE THEMSELVES, IT'S MORE LIKE A TWO YEAR LIFE.

SO WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD TO REPLACE THEM OR NEED TO REPLACE THEM.

AND I ASKED THE QUESTION, CAN WE JUST GO TO AN APP OR A WEB INTERFACE? BECAUSE WHERE MY DAUGHTER GOES TO SCHOOL, THERE'S JUST A QR CODE IN THE PARKING SPACE.

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WE WOULD DO BOTH THE KIOSKS, AND YOU COULD EITHER DO AN APP OR A WEB PAGE.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO INSTALL AN APP ON YOUR PHONE, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE WOULD GO STRICTLY TO A KIOSK IT WOULD SAVE US MONEY ON AN ONGOING BASIS. IT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WITH THE KIOSK, WE'RE KIND OF FIXED IN TERMS OF THE TIME FRAMES.

WITH THE WEB PAGE, WE CAN JUST CALL THEM AND SAY, LIKE THIS YEAR, OUR TIMELINE FOR THE OPENING OF THE PARKING THERE DIDN'T LINE UP WITH SPRING BREAK. SO THERE WAS A WHOLE SPRING BREAK WEEK WHERE THERE WERE PERHAPS, WE WANTED TO ENFORCE PARKING, BUT WE WEREN'T. AND WITH THE APP BASED SYSTEM, WE CAN JUST SAY BETWEEN THESE DATES, WE WANT TO HAVE PARKING BETWEEN THESE DATES.

WE DON'T. IF WE WANT TO LATER ADD ON STREET PAID PARKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IT'S JUST A SIGN WITH A QR CODE. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.

I HAVE A COMMANDER CAMERON HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK, BUT I GUESS I'M ACTUALLY I'M SEEKING A CONSENSUS THAT THERE'S NO OBJECTION TO GETTING RID OF THE KIOSK, DOING A ONE YEAR TRANSITION AND JUST MOVING TO AN APP BASED SYSTEM.

COMMISSIONER RING. WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE COMES AND THEY DON'T HAVE A CELL PHONE, OR THEY CAN'T NAVIGATE THE QR? DO THEY HAVE TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE? AND IF SO, WHERE? SO ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS GET A THREE HOUR FREE IF THEY REGISTER WITH US.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEIR TAG WOULD BE REGISTERED AND IT WOULD COME UP.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING IT MANUALLY. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IT AUTOMATICALLY, BUT MANUALLY IT WOULD COME UP AS A REGISTERED TAG AND SO THEY COULD PARK FOR FREE.

WE ARE LOOKING AT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE MAKE THEM USE THE APP THAT IF WE DO THAT, IT REDUCES STAFF TIME, CODE ENFORCEMENT TIME.

BUT WE CAN DO IT MANUALLY. SO, IN LOOKING AT MODERN COMMANDER, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP AND GIVE THE STATISTICS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE'RE 97% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PARKING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW ARE NOT ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS.

SO PERHAPS IT'S NOT AN IMPACT TO ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS.

OR IT MIGHT BE AN IMPACT TO 3%, BUT IT'S REALLY RESIDENTS FROM OUTSIDE OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

DAVID, IF YOU WANT TO DAVID CAMERON, COMMANDER OF LONG BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YES. SO 97% I DID A STUDY FOR LAST YEAR, 97% ARE NONRESIDENT REGISTERED RESIDENTS THAT USE IT FOR FREE PARKING.

THE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS AN OPTION THROUGH PAYPAL.

IF WE GO WITH A CERTAIN VENDOR, I'M STILL SEARCHING FOR THE BEST OPTION FOR A VENDOR THAT'S COST EFFECTIVE FOR OUR CITY.

IF YOU USE A PAYPAL ACCOUNT, YOU CAN USE YOUR BANK TO UPLOAD THE PAYPAL ACCOUNT.

AND THERE'S A WAY ON THEIR APP THAT YOU CAN OR ON THE SITE THEY WILL PAY FOR IT ITSELF, BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP FUNDS INTO THE PAYPAL ACCOUNT.

BUT IF THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE TO USE CREDIT CARD OR GOOGLE PLAY OR APPLE PAY.

THANK YOU. YEP. YES. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU FOR OVERTIME PARKING $50.

OKAY. A LITTLE NICER. AND WHAT I'LL SAY IS, EVEN WITH THE RESIDENTS, REGISTERED RESIDENTS, IF WE COME UP WITH A SYSTEM WHERE YOU STILL HAVE TO USE THE APP TO LET THE APP KNOW YOU'RE THERE, THEN THE SYSTEMS I'M FAMILIAR WITH WILL GIVE YOU A TEXT.

HEY, YOU HAVE AN HOUR LEFT. YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES LEFT, YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES LEFT.

SO YOU KNOW, HEY, I NEED TO GET TO THE TO THE METER.

SO I JUST HAVE A COMMENT TO IT. I FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING ELECTRONICALLY, BUT I RECOGNIZE THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER RING IS A VALID QUESTION.

SOMEBODY WILL BE IMPACTED THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SMARTPHONE.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT.

AND THE REASON WHY IS THERE'S OTHER PARKING IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. SO 18TH AND 19TH AND TOWN CENTER ARE NOT THE ONLY PARKING AVAILABLE.

I DON'T WANT TO HOLD BACK PROGRESS. BECAUSE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE MIGHT BE IMPACTED.

AND KNOWING THAT WE SPENT. WHAT DID WE SPEND? $10,000 PER KIOSK. IS IT PER OR FOR EACH OF THEM? I MEAN, FOR BOTH OF THEM, FOR CURRENTLY TO REPLACE THEM, IT WOULD BE $10,000 FOR BOTH MACHINES TOGETHER.

OKAY. SO $5,000 PER KIOSK AND THEY'RE GOING TO LAST TWO YEARS.

THAT'S A COST I DON'T WANT TO BEAR ON THIS FOR THE CITY.

MAY MAYBE HAVE TO INCREASE THOSE FINES FROM $50 TO SOMETHING ELSE TO COVER THAT.

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SCAN THE QR CODE. DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, AND THEN YOU CAN PUT YOUR PHONE BACK IN THE CAR IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

SO IT'S THERE'S A COST HERE AND THERE'S AN IMPACT, BUT IT'S A RELATIVELY MINOR ONE.

SO, I WOULD LIKE THIS COMMISSION TONIGHT TO GIVE CONSENSUS TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

IT'S A GREAT EFFICIENCY PLAY FOR US. AGREED. ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSION.

ITEM THREE C IS US TENNIS ASSOCIATION ASSESSMENT AND SURVEY.

THEY CAME OUT AND I'M GOING TO HAVE KEVIN COME UP AND GIVE YOU A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON WHAT THEY DID AND WHAT WE DID.

GOOD EVENING. I'M KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COLLABORATION BETWEEN UNITED STATES TENNIS ASSOCIATION, FLORIDA AND THE CITY.

THAT'S UNDERWAY. USTA IS ASSESSING THE CURRENT STATE OF TENNIS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IDENTIFYING OPPORTUNITIES FOR IMPROVEMENT AT OUR REQUEST AND AT NO CHARGE TO THE CITY. WE BELIEVE THAT THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WILL BETTER ENABLE US TO DO TWO THINGS.

ONE IS TO ENHANCE OUR TENNIS OFFERINGS AND IMPROVE COMMUNITY ACCESS TO THE SPORT.

AND NUMBER TWO, TO HELP US MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS REGARDING EVERYTHING FROM HOSTING LEAGUE PLAY TO TENNIS INSTRUCTORS, TO UPGRADING AND PERHAPS EXPANDING OUR TENNIS FACILITIES.

USTA FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVES WERE AT RUSSELL PARK AT THE COURTS FOR TWO DAYS EARLIER THIS MONTH.

THEY MET WITH TENNIS PLAYERS AND GOT SOME PERSPECTIVE ON OUR OPPORTUNITIES HERE.

AND NOW THERE'S A SURVEY THAT'S HIT THE STREETS.

INPUTS BEING SOLICITED THROUGH THAT SURVEY ON THE AFOREMENTIONED OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HOPE YOU'LL SHARE THE CITY'S MESSAGING ON THE SURVEY AND GET YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO PARTICIPATE.

THE SURVEY IS OPEN THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH.

AND ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE A WHILE BEFORE WE GET THE RESULTS OF THE USTA ASSESSMENT, WHICH WILL GUIDE US IN SOME OF OUR DECISION MAKING, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE HAVE A SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THIS SUMMER. EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ASSESSMENT IN HAND YET, THIS IS A NEW, EXCITING, LONG OVERDUE BIT OF ATTENTION TO THIS GREAT SPORT OF TENNIS THAT MAKES COMMUNITIES HEALTHIER AND BRINGS COMMUNITIES TOGETHER. IT'S AN EXCITING INITIATIVE.

AND THAT'S A CONCRETE RESULT OF US FINALLY GIVING ATTENTION TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT SPORT AND ACTIVITY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

COMMISSIONER RING. JUST ONE. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM? WILL THAT ONLY BE FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB? WILL IT BE OPEN TO ALL CHILDREN? THAT'S STILL IN DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. CERTAINLY, WE THINK MINIMALLY YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WITHIN THE AGE RANGE OF THE PROGRAM WHO LIVE IN ATLANTIC BEACH WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

I COMPLETED YOUR SURVEY, SO THANK YOU. I'M IN.

THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE THREE ITEMS THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA HERE, BUT THE FIRST ONE IS PRIORITIES.

IF DURING THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, IF THE COMMISSION, EACH OF YOU COULD GET ME PRIORITIES THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON OUR EXERCISE. IF YOU COULD DO THAT, I HAVE PRIORITIES FROM EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

ARC IS GOING TO PRESENT THEIRS TONIGHT, AND WE'LL GET THE ARCS, AND WE WILL TRY TO GET THEM SO THAT WE CAN PLAY THE PRIORITY GAME AND TAGGING TO PRIORITIZE OUR PRIORITIES. AND THEN THAT SEGUES INTO I MOVED THE PRIORITIES WORKSHOP CLOSER TO THE BUDGET THIS TIME. SO ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS OF GOING TO 6:00, EVERYBODY LAST YEAR SEEMED TO LIKE DOING THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS BEFORE THE COMMISSION. IF WE DO IT THAT WAY THIS YEAR, DUE FOR WORK ONE HOUR WORKSHOPS AS OPPOSED TO TWO SPECIAL TWO HOUR WORKSHOPS, WHICH I THINK IS EASIER ON EVERYBODY ACTUALLY DOING THE FOR ONE HOUR, IT WOULD BE 5 TO 6.

THAT MAY BE PROBLEMATIC FOR SOME OF YOU. SO I'M ASKING THE QUESTION NOW.

SO IF WE CAN HAVE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED THEN I WILL GO ON TO THE WHAT THE ALTERNATIVES MIGHT BE.

IS 5:00 A PROBLEMATIC. COMMISSIONER RING. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DAY.

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ALL RIGHT. MAYBE WHEN WE MEET NEXT TIME, WE CAN GO OVER THAT.

THE OTHER OPTION TO I, WE COULD DO A SPECIAL WORKSHOP AND TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFIT OF THAT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A TWO HOUR WORKSHOP. OR WE COULD HOLD IT DURING A COMMISSION MEETING.

AND JUST HAVE IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM ON THE COMMISSION.

OR WE COULD. I TALKED TO JASON ABOUT THIS FOR THOSE WORKSHOP DAYS, EVEN THOUGH THE ORDINANCE SAYS 6:00.

NOBODY WOULD BE HARMED IF WE PUSHED IT TO 630 BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO SHOWED UP FOR A 6:00 MEETING WOULD BE HERE AND WOULD KNOW THAT IT'S NOW AT 630.

I DON'T KNOW, JASON, IF YOU WANT TO OPINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIVE THE CODE TO DO THAT, OR IF WE COULD JUST DO IT. YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A, IS THAT BETTER? I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON. WE COULD DO IT EITHER WAY. I MEAN, ONE WAY TO DO IT IS TO SET THE PRE MEETING, I SUPPOSE AT IS AT 6 A.M. OR 6 P.M. AND THEN UPON THE MEETING WOULD BE 5:30.

THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE LAST YEAR.

RIGHT. AND THEN AND THEN HAVE THE MEETINGS. WE CAN NOTICE THE COMMISSION MEETING FOR 630 OR UPON THE EXPIRATION OF THE YOU KNOW, IF THE PRECEDING MEETING ACTUALLY EXPIRES PRIOR TO THAT MEETING.

BUT WE MAY WANT TO LET'S LOOK AT THAT. I'M NOT PREPARED TO OPINE ON THAT JUST YET.

BUT THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT. AND IF THAT MEANS US TAKING A VOTE, YOU KNOW, AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING PRIOR TO THESE BUDGET MEETINGS, WE CAN DO THAT TOO. BUT WE CAN SET THAT. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL DISCUSS I THINK THE EASY IF WE CAN MAKE IT WORK WOULD BE THE 5 TO 6 AND THEN HAVE 06:00.

BUT IF WE CAN'T MAKE THAT WORK, THEN IT WOULD STILL BE MY DESIRE TO WORK IT INTO A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING DAY RATHER THAN HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING FOR IT. WHAT WOULD? ARE WE LOOKING IN APRIL OR MAY? IT WOULD BE PROBABLY JUNE, MAYBE THE LAST MEETING IN JUNE, JULY, TWO MEETINGS IN JULY AND THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. OKAY. JUNE AND JULY ARE ISSUES ARE NOT ISSUES.

OKAY. THE CHILDREN ARE OFF SCHOOL SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE JUNE AND JULY, GET THOSE ON THE SCHEDULE AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT AUGUST NEXT TIME. WHAT ABOUT THE LAST MEETING.

AND THAT WAS IN JUNE. JULY 2ND MEETINGS AND NOT ONE ON JUNE 2ND AND JULY 1ST IN AND AUGUST.

SO JUNE AND JULY IS NOT A PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THAT DONE. AND THEN WE'LL SEE ABOUT AUGUST.

AND THEN THE LAST THING, JUST REAL QUICK, WE HAVE A KIND OF FORMALLY CHANGED.

YOU'LL SEE IT ON SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION AND THAT.

SO WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT NOW WHICH IS PLANNING PERMITTING AND PARKS AND RECREATION.

SO IF YOU SEE THAT ON LETTERHEAD, WHICH IS ON ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS IN THIS AGENDA, THAT IS THAT.

AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, MY CITY MANAGER REPORTS ARE COMPLETE.

THANK YOU, MR. KILLINGSWORTH. WE'LL MOVE STRAIGHT INTO ITEM FOUR REPORTS FROM COMMISSIONERS,

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH KEN SIMON LAST WEEK REGARDING THIS ISSUE AT THE 20TH STREET PUMPING STATION.

SO, I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THEIR COMMENTS TONIGHT.

I JUST ASKED STAFF AND BILL AND I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO BE LIKE THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTION MARKS THERE THAT WE STILL NEED TO ANSWER AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.

I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE IS THERE LIKE A IS, YOU KNOW, FIND A GENERATOR THAT IS WORKING, OPERATING WITH THAT SAME DECIBEL LEVEL JUST TO GO.

I KNEW WHAT TIME IT WAS GOING OFF. GO, YOU KNOW, GO BY IT AND STAND 30FT AWAY FROM IT AND JUST SEE WHAT THIS THING SOUNDS LIKE.

BUT IT DOES, YOU KNOW, IT DOES APPEAR TO BE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO WHERE OUR KIDS, YOU KNOW, ARE PLAYING, AND THAT'S CONCERNING YOU KNOW, PROPANE EXHAUST, WHATEVER YOU HAVE IT.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE NOTHING LIKE THAT IS, IT'S WE'RE EXPOSING OUR KIDS EITHER.

AND WE SHOULD JUST BE TAKING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EXTRA STEPS, MAYBE.

MAYBE CODE OR CERTAIN HUD REGULATIONS SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE DOING THEM ANYWAY,

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SO JUST ASK THAT WE TAKE A REALLY CLOSE LOOK AT ALL THAT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRANT. COMMISSIONER KELLY, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A RANT.

SO, SATURDAY WAS LIKE THIS LOVELY SPRING DAY AND ALL THE ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS WERE OUT THERE RECREATING ON OUR EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALKS, AND THEY'RE PLAYING RACKET SPORTS AND RIDING THEIR BIKES.

THE PARKS WERE FULL, AND IT WAS LIKE WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT LIVING HERE, AND IT FITS NEATLY WITH WHEN KEVIN WROTE, OUR CITY VISION WAS THE INPUT FROM EVERYBODY ABOUT WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT LIVING HERE, AND IT WAS THAT FEELING THAT SATURDAY GAVE US ALL THE LOVELY SPRING DAY AND BEING OUTSIDE AND SNEEZING AND COUGHING AND WASHING OUR CARS.

BUT LIKE DUN, DUN, DUN, DUN LIKE, CUE THE SHARK.

BECAUSE LOOMING FROM UNDERNEATH US IS THE RISING WATER.

IT'S INEXORABLY FROM THE SEA AND DISASTROUSLY FROM THE SKY.

AND SO, THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THIS COMMISSION SHOULD BE RESILIENCY, LIKE SWANS PEDALING FURIOUSLY.

THE MOST IMPORTANT WORK THAT ALL OF OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS DO IS IN SUPPORT OF RESILIENCY.

THE ENGINEERS, THE CYBERSECURITY, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAMS, THE WATER DO THE SEWER DO PUBLIC WORKS, AND ALL THE REGIONAL COORDINATION THAT WE DO.

AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT NO MATTER WHAT OTHER ISSUES ARISE.

AND FOR IN OUR ENJOYMENT OF LIVING HERE, THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP LIVING HERE.

SO WHEN WE SET OUR GOALS THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KELLY COMMISSIONER RING.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'LL FINISH IT OUT. I'M GOING TO COMMENT ON THE PRESENTATION BY THE SIMONS.

AND PART OF THIS GOES DIRECTLY TO CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH.

SO, A FORMER CITY MANAGER HEARD ME SPEAK ON THE ISSUE OF DOING NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS WITHOUT NOTIFICATION TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND IMPACTED.

AND THE EXAMPLE WAS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WATER TOWER AND THEN INSTALLATION OF A VERY TALL CELL TOWER TO REPLACE THE CELL ANTENNAS THAT USED TO BE ON THE WATER TOWER. AND THAT WAS IN SEVERAL LAKESIDE.

AND MY ASK AND THE ACCEPTANCE BY THAT CITY MANAGER BUT NOT CODIFIED WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT TAKE ON PROJECTS THAT IMPACT NEIGHBORHOODS OR ADJACENT NEIGHBORS WITHOUT FULLY INFORMING ALL OF THE IMPACTED NEIGHBORS AND ALLOWING TIME FOR THEM TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ACTUALLY GET RESPONSES ON THOSE QUESTIONS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH THE WITH THE GENERATOR PLACEMENT ON THE ON THE LIFT STATION. SO, I'M ASKING JUST I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO ANSWER ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM THIS, BECAUSE I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT THIS THROUGH, IS WHAT CHECKLIST, IF ANY, ARE WE USING FOR THESE TYPES OF PLACEMENTS? ARE WE IN FACT BOUND BY CODE, WHETHER IT'S OUR CITY CODE, WHETHER IT'S FEMA, WHETHER IT'S STATE OF FLORIDA, ARE THERE CODES THAT WE ARE BOUND BY THAT WE'RE NOT ADHERING TO? AND IF WE HAVE A FREE REIGN NOT TO ABIDE BY CODES, THEN I'M GOING TO COME BACK AND TALK TO THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT PERHAPS CODIFYING SOMETHING, BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT I'M APPROVING SOMETHING THAT LATER COULD BE A PROBLEM.

AND I DID NOT KNOW WHAT I DID NOT KNOW. AND SO I THINK WE NEED MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY, IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT IF THE SOUND IS NOT AN ISSUE, SO BE IT.

IF THE EXHAUST IS NOT AN ISSUE, SO BE IT. BUT IF THAT GENERATOR IS A NEW ADDITION ABOVE THE FENCE LINE, THAT'S AN ISSUE. THAT'S A SITE THAT'S BLIGHT, VISUAL BLIGHT THAT IMPACTS ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS.

SO I'M SURE THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO. AND I'M THINKING I HEARD THE PRESENTATION EITHER BY BOTH OF THE SIMONS OR ONE THAT MONEY MIGHT BE AVAILABLE FROM FEMA THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE THE COST OR THE BURDEN TO THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH, IF WE APPLIED FOR THAT, TO DO SOME MITIGATION OF THE VISUAL SITE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR BACK NEXT MEETING AND I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CITY POLICY WILL BE GOING FORWARD AND HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION, COMMISSIONERS, SO THAT, IF NECESSARY, WE CAN ALSO BRING LEGISLATION TO STATE SPECIFICALLY HOW WE'RE

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ANY FEEDBACK? SURE. SO THE NOISE ATTENUATION OR THE NOISE STANDARDS THAT GETS MENTIONED, THE EPA AND HUD, QUITE FRANKLY, THEY'RE BEING MISAPPLIED.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AT LEAST THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SENT TO ME, THE HUD ONE IS A 65 DECIBEL D AND L.

SO AND IT'S WHAT HUD IS REGULATING IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF HUD FINANCED HOUSING.

TYPICALLY, THEY CALL IT HIGH NOISE AREA. BUT THE ONLY AREAS THAT I KNOW THAT QUALIFIER AIRPORTS.

MOST COMMERCIAL AIRPORTS, COMMERCIAL AIRPLANES ARE MORE EFFICIENT THAN THEY USED TO BE.

SO THAT 65 DECIBEL D AND L IS WHOLLY CONTAINED ON AIRPORT PROPERTY.

ON MILITARY AIRPORTS, MILITARY AIRCRAFT ARE ACTUALLY GETTING LOUDER BECAUSE THEY'RE SETTING NEW PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND ADJUSTING FOR NOISE IMPACTS, FUEL EFFICIENCY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THE 65 DECIBEL D AND L AROUND MILITARY BASES ACTUALLY HAS GOTTEN BIGGER.

WHEN YOU BUILD A HOUSE WITHIN A, IF YOU BUILD A HUD HOUSE AND HERE IN JACKSONVILLE, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S A HUD HOUSE, BECAUSE THE LOCAL ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT YOU ATTENUATE DOWN TO A 65 FOOT LEVEL WHEN YOU BUILD A HOUSE, IF YOU'RE IN THAT 65 NOISE CONTOUR. SO IT'S A 24 HOUR AVERAGE, IT'S NOT 65DB FOR TEN MINUTES.

IT'S A 24 HOUR AVERAGE. IT'S THE SAME THING WITH EPA.

BUT I THINK THEIR STANDARD IS 70. SO THIS GENERATOR WILL NOT TRIP EITHER ONE OF THOSE.

AND LOOKING AT THE IMAGERY, I MEAN, WHAT I CAN COMMIT IS ONCE THE GENERATOR IS IN PLACE, IF IT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE SCREENED, THEN I'LL HAVE TO SCREEN IT. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE ABOVE THE FENCE.

I KNOW WHERE THEY ORIGINALLY WANTED TO PUT IT.

THEY DID SOME CLEARING AND THEY FOUND AN UNMARKED MANHOLE AND COVER THERE AND SOMETHING UNDERNEATH IT THAT WASN'T ON ANY OF THE LOCATES AND ISN'T ON OUR MAP. SO THEY COULDN'T PUT THE GENERATOR THERE, SO THEY'RE HAVING TO REMOVE IT.

BUT I WILL COMMIT TO WHATEVER PORTION OF THE GENERATOR IS ABOVE THE FENCE TO SCREENING THAT.

OKAY. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET THAT CONVINCED ME THAT WE'RE VIOLATING ANY NOISE STANDARDS.

YES. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. A COUPLE THINGS, BILL.

THANKS FOR THE UPDATE. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT THAT THE SLAB HAD BEEN POURED FOR THAT GENERATOR.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE SHOULD KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING IN.

WELL, YEAH. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GOING AT.

I SEND AN EMAIL TO STEVE ABOUT THAT. BUT SOMEWHERE IN THE NEAR VICINITY OF THE JET, IT'S SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT COMPOUND.

YEAH. AND THE OTHER THING MY OTHER COMMENT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE VIOLATING ANYTHING OR NOT, IF IT'S NOTICEABLE, IF IT I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY NOTICEABLE INCONVENIENCE TO OUR NEIGHBORS, I'D LIKE US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, WHETHER WE'RE REQUIRED TO OR NOT BY SOME HUD STANDARD OR.

RIGHT. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS HAVE TO FOLLOW GUIDELINES, RIGHT? BUT I'D ALSO, YOU KNOW, LET'S ALSO YOU KNOW, ONCE WE PUT SOMETHING IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR IF THERE'S A CHANCE TO MITIGATE IT BEFORE WE PUT IT IN BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER STRUCTURES BEING ORDERED.

I THINK FROM RING POWER COULD BE UPGRADED BEFORE WE HAVE TO CHANGE THEM OUT.

THAT'D BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. SO JUST I'M JUST ASKING US TO JUST, YOU KNOW, LET'S USE KID GLOVES HERE AND GO KIND OF GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, THAT'S ALL. I RECOGNIZE THAT. BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I THINK THERE ALSO NEEDS TO BE A RECOGNITION THAT EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR AND MOST HOMES ON THE BEACH ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, MY NEIGHBOR TOMORROW COULD DROP DOWN TO GENERATE A GENERAC GENERATOR IN THEIR BACKYARD.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO DO IF IT DOES NEED SCREENING WHEN IT'S IN PLACE, I'LL ENSURE THAT THE GENERATOR IS SCREEN. SO I HAVE A FURTHER QUESTION THEN.

DO WE AS A CITY, ARE WE REQUIRED TO ALSO PULL A PERMIT ON THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THE CODE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD REQUIRES THAT TYPICALLY WE FOR, LIKE, ROAD CONSTRUCTIONS.

I DON'T THINK WE PULL PERMITS FOR THOSE BECAUSE WE HAVE A DESIGN ENGINEER.

I'LL LET JASON JUMP IN. YEAH. I MEAN, AND YOU, YOU COULD IMPOSE THOSE IF YOU WANTED TO BY LEGISLATION.

BUT TYPICALLY, IF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AND, IN THIS CASE, I PRESUME IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

BUT IF IT'S CERTAINLY ZONED FOR WHAT'S TYPICALLY A PUBLIC UTILITY TYPE OR GOVERNMENT USE TYPE PROPERTY,

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BUT IF YOU WANTED TO IMPOSE A PERMITTING SYSTEM ON YOUR OWN GOVERNMENTAL IMPLEMENTATION OF UTILITIES OR, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS TYPE STUFF, YOU COULD IMPOSE A, YOU KNOW, A LEGISLATIVE SCHEME FOR THAT, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ONE AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU.

AND DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT GENERATOR IS DUE TO BE INSTALLED? WHEN IS IT BEING RECEIVED AND WHEN DO YOU PLAN TO INSTALL IT? WE DON'T HAVE A DATE YET. IT HAS BEEN ORDERED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A DATE.

THE I FORGET WHICH ONE JUST CAME IN. THERE'S A LONG LEAD TIME ON THESE GENERATORS.

YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE TIME. AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRANT, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I HAVE ALREADY ASKED THAT THIS BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION BEFORE WE DO ANY MORE.

AND I'M NOT SAYING NO TO ANYTHING PROCEEDING.

CITY MANAGER, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REALLY HAD NOT OCCURRED TO ME PRIOR TO THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT. SO LET'S JUST FOR NOW, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

AND THEN NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. HEARING NONE, WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. 6.A IS AUTHORIZED THE CITY TO CONTRACT WITH JAX UTILITIES MANAGEMENT, INC.

TO COMPLETE THE STORMWATER CONSTRUCTION FOR THE HOWELL PARK RESTORATION PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $38,745 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. ITEM 6.B APPROVE THE 911 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE DISTRIBUTION OF 911 FUNDS FOR THE CALL TAKER SALARIES AND AUTHORIZED FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE 911 INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL EITHER OF THESE ITEMS FROM CONSENT IN ORDER TO DISCUSS? NO. OKAY. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ITEM 7.A COMMITTEE REPORTS.

[7.A. Arts, Recreation, and Culture Committee (ARCC)]

I AM LISA GOODRICH. I'M THE CHAIR OF THE ARTS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE.

I AM HERE TO REVIEW OUR PRIORITIES THAT OUR COMMITTEE MET ON AND VOTED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2526. KEVIN IS HANDING THIS OUT NOW. FIRST, THOUGH, I'D LIKE TO REVIEW OUR PRIORITIES FOR 20 2425 TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND. THE FIRST WAS COMMUNICATIONS, JUST LIKE WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

IMPROVED COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING SYSTEMS. THAT WAS OUR TOP PRIORITY TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT STRATEGIES TO ENSURE RESIDENTS ARE FULLY AWARE OF ARTS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS AVAILABLE TO THEM, SUCH AS QR CODE, SIGNAGE, MAILING MAPS OF PARKS AND THE TURTLE CRAWL, A SCAVENGER HUNT KIND OF MAP DEPICTING THE TURTLE CRAWL.

TO THAT, OUR WEB, EMAIL, NEWSLETTERS AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS ROBUST, SO WE FEEL THAT WE ARE COVERING FROM MANY DIFFERENT ANGLES.

THROUGH STAFF SO THAT EVERYONE IN THE CITY THAT WANTS TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON HAS ACCESS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WHENEVER THERE'S A QUESTION, I ALWAYS REMIND THEM THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR WATER BILL BECAUSE THERE'S EVERY SINGLE MONTH THERE IT IS.

IMPROVE THE CITY'S WEBSITE NAVIGABILITY AND ENABLE USERS TO MORE EFFICIENTLY GET THE INFORMATION THEY'RE SEEKING.

AND I AM TOLD THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY REFRESHING THE WEBSITE, SO THAT IS IN PROCESS.

THAT WILL ALSO COVER THE NEXT BULLET POINT UNDER COMMUNICATIONS, WE AIM TO DEVELOP AND PUBLISH A CATALOG OF DEPARTMENTAL AND GRANTEE PROGRAMING ESPECIALLY WITH JORDAN LESLIE, OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, COMING ON BOARD RECENTLY.

WE EXPECT THAT ALL OF THIS WILL BE ENCOMPASSED IN THE NEW WEBSITE.

AND HE'S TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO, THAT IS ALSO IN PROCESS. UTILIZE SURVEYS TO OBTAIN CUSTOMER FEEDBACK AND PUBLICLY SHARE THE RESULTS.

OUR CITY IS VERY GOOD AT SENDING OUT SURVEYS.

IF YOU GET A PERMIT FOR ANYTHING, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING, WE ALWAYS ASK FOR FEEDBACK.

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SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT JORDAN'S GOING TO GOING TO WORK ON NOW THAT HE'S HERE.

NEXT WAS PROGRAMING MUCH LIKE OUR COMING FISCAL YEAR PRIORITIES.

WE COMPLETED AN ANALYSIS AND AN ANALYSIS OF OUR PROGRAMING GAPS AND THE DEVISE A STRATEGY TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF OUR TURTLE CRAWL THAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. RIGHT NOW, THE TURTLES ARE BEING FABRICATED BY JENNY HAGER AND HER TEAM OVER AT UNF.

SHE'S CREATING ALL THE MODELS FOR THE TURTLES, AND THEN THEY'LL BE CAST IN BRONZE.

SHE EXPECTS THAT WE WILL HAVE INSTALLATION OF THESE TURTLES IN THE 20 SITES ACROSS THE CITY AT THE END OF THE SUMMER. SO THAT WILL BE A FUN PROJECT THAT IS WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO THAT IS IN PROCESS AS WELL. LET'S SEE. AND THEN ANALYZE WHETHER THE CITY STAFFING MEETS THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND WITH AGAIN, WITH THE HIRING OF JORDAN THAT WAS COMPLETED.

SO WE ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON OUR PRIORITIES OF THIS CURRENT YEAR THAT WE'RE IN.

AND NEXT YEAR AS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS.

BY THEN, WE EXPECT THAT THE CITY'S WEBSITE WILL BE UP AND RUNNING THE REVITALIZED WEBSITE TAKING US FOR A MORE LIKE AN EASIER WAY TO FIND OUT SOME ABOUT THE EVENTS AND THE OFFERINGS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROGRAMING.

NEXT YEAR WE EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PROGRAMING MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE WILL CONTINUE TO GATHER THE DATA AND FEEDBACK TO EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS AND EFFECTIVENESS AND SUCCESS OF OUR PROGRAMS. IN HONOR OF OUR 100TH COMMEMORATION OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, WE WILL REINSTATE A FIRST NIGHT. ATLANTIC BEACH.

WERE YOU HERE WHEN WE DID THAT BEFORE? WASN'T THAT THE FUNNEST? SO MUCH FUN. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND OUR COMMITTEE WILL WORK ON THAT.

AND WE WILL. WE VOTED TO FACILITATE THE INSTALLATION OF THREE VOLLEYBALL COURTS IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, TWO ON THE BEACH AND ONE AT THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER.

DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I CAN PAUSE FOR A QUESTION IF YOU HAVE ONE NOW.

NO. OKAY. SO AS FAR AS HUMAN RESOURCES AND COLLABORATION GOES, WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ITS PRODUCTIVITY AND EFFICIENCY, WORKING WITH STAFF TO ESTABLISH THE NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR AN EFFECTIVE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM FOR THE TEN HOURS THAT WE GET THIS VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

MANY OF OUR BIG EVENTS REQUIRE VOLUNTEERS, AND THIS WILL STREAMLINE EVERYTHING AND WE HOPE TO COOPERATE MORE WITH SC AND STAFF ON OVERLAPPING EVENTS WITH THAT, THAT COMMITTEE AS WELL. SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO ON ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES? COMMISSIONER RING. SO WITH THE STREAMLINING OF BOTH OF OUR COMMITTEES OR WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED SO FAR, HOW DID YOU FEEL OR HOW DID YOU FEEL THAT THE MEMBERS OF ARC FELT ABOUT TAKING ON ACTIVE PARKS? OH, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. WE FELT THAT WE WERE IN WE'RE ALREADY IN ALIGNMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WAS IS BEING REQUESTED TO STREAMLINE WITH SC. WE ALREADY DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND WE'RE TOTALLY FINE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH. WHEN I PARTICIPATED IN THE BOARD MEMBER REVIEW COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, WE TOOK ON TWO NEW BOARD MEMBERS, AND EVERY ONE OF OUR PRECINCTS ARE REPRESENTED BY AT LEAST ONE MEMBER, SOMETIMES TWO. SO, THAT'S EXCITING. WE'RE FANTASTIC.

YEAH, EVERYTHING'S WORKING GREAT IN OUR COMMITTEE, I THINK.

GREAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, LISA. AND I KNOW YOU GOT MORE, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU KNOW, TONIGHT WE WILL ACT ON THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE YOUR STRUCTURE TO NINE MEMBERS FROM SEVEN. I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING.

ON THE 14TH. WE WILL DO THAT. ARE YOU. DOES THAT WORK WITH YOU.

IS THAT IN YOUR MIND BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY ON THE PARKS.

IF THAT REALLY IS ADDITIONAL IS THAT GOOD. AND THEN DO YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN MIND.

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YES. AND WE'LL JUST WE JUST BROUGHT HIM ON AS A FULL TIME.

SO WE HAVE EIGHT AND WE HAVE ROOM FOR ONE MORE.

GOOD. YEAH. SO WE'RE FINE WITH THAT. AND I ASSUME WE'LL GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE DID TO OBTAIN THESE TWO NEW.

I WILL GO THROUGH THE BOARD REVIEW COMMITTEE AND WE'LL TAKE APPLICATIONS AND SEE WHO WORKS OUT BEST THERE.

SO YEAH, NO, THAT WORKS OUT FINE FOR US. YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO FAR? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AN UPDATE ON PROJECTS AND GRANTS.

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRANT CYCLE YEAR.

THERE WERE 17 RECIPIENTS. ALL OF THE PROGRAMING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY.

EVERYTHING IS IS GOING RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. WE HAVE I TALKED TO STAFF AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY PROBLEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WITH ANY OF OUR GRANT RECIPIENTS.

AS AN ONGOING POLICY, EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER IS ASSIGNED 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WHERE THEY ACT AS THE LIAISON BETWEEN OUR COMMITTEE AND AND THE ORGANIZATION.

WE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE GRANT TO THE LETTER THAT THEY WERE AWARDED, AND SEE HOW WE CAN HELP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A WIN WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY.

SO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. PROGRESS REPORTS OR FINAL REPORTS, IF THEY'RE FINISHED, ARE DUE ON JUNE 2ND.

AND THE NEW ROUND OF GRANTS GOES LIVE ON JUNE 16TH.

NOW, A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT THAT. WITH THE BRINGING MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER ONLINE WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AND WE VOTED ON THIS AS A COMMITTEE THAT WE UPPED THE BUDGET FROM $75,000 FOR GRANTS TO $100,000 FOR GRANTS, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE ON THE NEW PROGRAMING FOR MARSH OAKS, AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT CONSISTENTLY.

FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE HAD MORE THAN $120,000 IN GRANT REQUESTS.

EACH TIME THAT WE HAVE TO WHITTLE DOWN TO $75,000, WE ALWAYS GIVE AWAY 100% OF OUR FUNDING.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO ASK REALLY EXCELLENT PROGRAMS TO SOMEHOW FIT IN A, IN A SMALLER AWARD.

SO WE JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE.

AND THEN ALSO A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK THIS WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

WE TALKED ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE THAT WE CONTINUOUSLY FUND YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND YOU KNOW, THESE GRANTS WERE NEVER MEANT TO BE IN PERPETUITY.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION, IT'S ACTUALLY A SCHOOL, ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY, THAT APPLIES EVERY YEAR. AND WE THINK THAT THAT IS AN ORGANIZATION, A GRANTEE THAT SHOULD JUST BE MOVED INTO THE GENERAL FUNDING, THAT THEY NEED NOT APPLY.

EVERY YEAR THAT WE MAKE THE GRANT OF $10,000 TO ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY, JUST A REGULAR THING.

THEY USE IT FOR THEIR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING AND THEIR CULTURAL CELEBRATION DAY.

AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO WITH IT.

SO, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THAT JUST MOVE OUT OF OUR GRANT PROCESS.

NO ONE LIKES TO DENY ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

THEY'RE SUCH A BELOVED ORGANIZATION. SO, WE THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST CONTINUE TO JUST SUPPORT THEM.

COMMISSIONER WITH THAT GIVE YOU 10,000 MORE TO GIVE OUT.

WE DID NOT FUND THEM THIS YEAR. OH, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT.

WE HAVE WE SET UP GUIDELINES THAT ALL THE GRANTEES HAVE TO ADHERE TO, AND THEY WERE NOT COMPLIANT.

WE OFTENTIMES HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR COMPLIANCE.

AND YET WE HAVE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MODEL COMPLIANCE.

LIKE, I KNOW THAT YOU SUPPORT MAYPORT MIDDLE AND THEN HIGH SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEY NEVER REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. THEY EVERY YEAR, ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY SAYS THAT THE REASON THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THEIR REPORTING AND IT'S ALL AROUND THE BUDGET AND REPORTING IS THEIR NONCOMPLIANCE.

WE HAVE A TOUGH TIME GETTING A HOLD OF THEM AS WELL IS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

SO THEY HAVE TO THEIR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING GOES THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

SO THEY HAVE TO RELY ON THEM TO GET THEM THE DATA ON THEIR BUDGET AND WHAT THEY'RE SPENDING THE MONEY ON AND THAT KIND OF THING.

AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE SAYING THE PROBLEM ALWAYS IS.

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AND THEY THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID. BUT WE CHOSE WE VOTED AS A COMMITTEE NOT TO FUND THEM THIS PAST YEAR.

SO THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING FUNDED. BUT I KNOW THAT'S A BITTER PILL FOR EVERYBODY TO SWALLOW BECAUSE WE LOVE ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY, AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THE KIDS. SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'D LIKE TO JUST MOVE THEM OUT OF OUR PROCESS AND INTO THE GENERAL FUND OF THE CITY, IF YOU SO WISH TO CONTINUE TO.

I MEAN, WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM COME THROUGH US AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STRUGGLE. AND THAT WAS A YEAR AFTER YEAR THING.

I THINK IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.

IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM. REPRESENTATIVE WHO PRESENTED THAT DAY? IT'S A THE LAST TWO YEARS, IT WAS A PARENT THAT'S INVOLVED AND SAID SHE WOULD HELP.

AND BEFORE THAT, IT WAS THE PRINCIPAL. OKAY. AND THEN WE A COUPLE YEARS AGO UNDER A DIFFERENT COMMISSION, WE VOTED TO NOT FULLY FUND THEM. AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TIME TO PRESENT FOR THOSE VERY REASONS, AND IT CAME TIME FOR US TO PRESENT AND FOR YOU GUYS, THE THEN COMMISSION AND MAYOR TO VOTE ON FUNDING THE GRANTEES THAT WE SUGGESTED. THEY WENT AHEAD AND UPPED THE FUNDING FOR ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T COMPLIANT.

SO, THEY WENT KIND OF AGAINST OUR RECOMMENDATION.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING NO ONE WANTS TO NOT SUPPORT THEM.

SO WE SHOULD JUST MOVE IT OUT. YEAH. AT LEAST IF WE CAN MOVE ON.

COMMISSIONER, I DON'T WANT COMMISSIONER. IF YOU'LL ASK FOR PERMISSION, I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE DOING. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. BUT I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU NOW. OKAY. IF WE COULD MOVE ON AND WE CAN TAKE THE AB DISCUSSION OFFLINE.

I JUST. I DON'T WANT TO KEEP AIRING ALL THEIR DIRTY LAUNDRY.

OKAY. IF WE CAN AVOID IT. YEAH. NO. THAT'S FINE.

AND IT'S ALL PUBLIC RECORD ON OUR MEETINGS THAT ARE RECORDED.

LISA? YES. I'VE HAD A LONG STANDING HEARTBURN WITH THE FACT THAT ALL THE WEST SIDE KIDS WHO GO TO NEPTUNE BEACH DON'T GET ANY OF OUR PROGRAMING MONEY. AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE NEVER THAT THAT SCHOOL DOESN'T REQUEST THEM, BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE LEAVING OUT SO MANY OF OUR KIDS FROM THE GENEROSITY OF THE GRANTS.

I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION. IT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO AN.

I GUESS I COULD LIVE WITH A MODEST YEAR TO YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO GIVE THEM $20,000 EVERY YEAR. RIGHT. JUST. YEAH. AND HALF OF THE OTHER KIDS.

SURE, I HEAR YOU. THE SCHOOL, THE MOST THE SCHOOL CAN ASK FOR IS $10,000.

AND NEPTUNE BEACH ELEMENTARY IS WELCOME TO APPLY.

YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT IT OUT THERE THAT YOU KNOW.

YEAH, IT'S NOT EVERY KID IN ATLANTIC BEACH GETS TO BENEFIT FROM THIS MONEY.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. OKAY. AND THEN KEVIN COVERED THE USTA STUFF.

WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB TO OUR COMMITTEE, AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE GOING REALLY WELL THERE.

EVERYBODY'S VERY HAPPY. AND THAT'S BASICALLY ALL I HAVE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? NOT A QUESTION, BUT A COMMENT. AND FIRST OF ALL, AS ALWAYS, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND YOUR COMMITTEE.

IT'S TREMENDOUS. LISA, YOU ALREADY KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT RECURRING YEAR OVER YEAR GRANTS.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT FOR THE MOST PART, BUT THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS.

I WON'T GET INTO WHICH ONES, BUT. BUT I DO WANT TO CALL OUT ONE THAT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING.

IS THIS YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR, $10,000 TO THE FLETCHER BAND? OKAY. AND NEITHER OF OUR SISTER CITIES ARE CONTRIBUTING.

THAT'S A PROBLEM. AND THEY'RE NOT IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

SURELY, WE HAVE STUDENTS THERE, AND I'M AN ALUMNI THERE, SO I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM.

AND I'M GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME SOUL SEARCHING WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US FOR THIS YEAR'S GRANTS.

BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW SO THAT I'M BEING UP FRONT AND TRANSPARENT, THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF RECURRING $10,000 GRANTS.

BUT LET ME LEAVE YOU WITH A THOUGHT. IF THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A VALUED ADD BY THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, MAYBE THEY SHOULD RAISE THEIR HAND AND OFFER TO COME PLAY AT ONE OF OUR EVENTS IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS AS YOUR MAYOR.

CRICKETS. SO THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE THE $10,000 A YEAR, BUT THEY'VE DONE NOTHING IN RECIPROCITY FOR THE CITY,

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SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM. OKAY, I ABSOLUTELY WILL.

AND YOU MENTIONED THAT NONE OF OUR SISTER CITIES SUPPORT.

IT'S A QUESTION I ASK EVERY GRANTEE DURING THE HEARINGS WHEN THEY COME TO DEFEND THEIR GRANT.

AND NONE OF, NONE OF OUR GRANTEES ARE EVER SUPPORTED BY ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES.

NO, AND I HEAR THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE I HAVE SOME HEARTBURN, BECAUSE THERE.

WELL, I HAVE HEARTBURN ACROSS THE BOARD, LIKE YOU MIGHT BUT THEY'RE NOT IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY IS IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC.

ABSOLUTELY. NOW, BY THE WAY, I LOVE MAYPORT. MIDDLE.

ABSOLUTELY WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN THERE. BUT WHAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS THE FIRST THING IS TO ENGAGE WITH THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH FOR THE FLETCHER BAND, AND MAYBE DO A LITTLE PRELIMINARY WORK TALKING TO THE TWO MAYORS OF THE OTHER TWO CITIES, BECAUSE I'M LETTING YOU KNOW RIGHT UP FRONT, IF I EVEN GO DOWN THAT PATH OF APPROVING, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO ASK THAT WE DO NO MORE THAN A MATCH TO THOSE TWO CITIES.

SO, MEANING THOSE TWO CITIES. JACKSONVILLE BEACH HAS A HUGE BUDGET COMPARED TO OURS.

IT SHOULD NOT BE A HARD THING FOR THEM TO PONY UP 5000 FOR US TO MATCH 5000.

AND THEREFORE, WE NOW HAVE 5000 LEFT TO FUND SOME OF THE OTHER SHORTFALL THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH ALL THE OTHER EXCESSIVE GRANT REQUESTS.

SO JUST THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. I LIKE IT TOO. THANKS, THANKS.

THANK YOU. WHERE'S MY AGENDA? HERE IT IS. OKAY.

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 25-28]

AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. KIMLEY-HORN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

COMMISSION. SO, AS THE TITLE SAID, THIS IS A $20,000 WHICH IS CURRENTLY APPROPRIATED AS AN EXPENDITURE IN THE BUDGET FOR TREE PLANTINGS ON SARASOTA, SARATOGA AND FORRESTAL CIRCLE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE ON MARCH 12TH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THE TREE PLANTINGS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON THE TWO STREETS.

BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS LACK SUFFICIENT TREE CANOPY, AND PUBLIC WORKS WERE OVERSEEN WITH WATERING OF THE TREES UNTIL THEY WERE PROPERLY ESTABLISHED. CHAPTER 23 REQUIRES THE COMMISSION APPROVAL FOR EXPENDITURE FROM THE TREE CONCENTRATION FUND FOR THESE PLANTINGS.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-28.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO ADOPT. RESOLUTION NUMBER 25-28.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION.

HOW MUCH IS THIS FOR? 20,000. HOW MUCH IS LEFT IN THE TREE FUND? ABOUT 100. AND. 80. SOMEWHERE IN THERE. ISH. OKAY.

OKAY. HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO ITEM 8.B A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,

[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 25-29]

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB CAME TO US AND ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS ON THE INSIDE OF OUR FACILITIES. WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COMPLIED WITH STATE LAWS AND B THAT WE HAD ACCESS TO THEM IN THE EVENT THAT THERE WAS SOME INCIDENT, AND WE NEEDED TO REVIEW IT FOR ANY KIND OF POLICE ACTION. AND SO CHIEF WORKED WITH THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND WITH JASON.

WE CAME UP WITH THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND WE THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-29.

I ALSO HAVE THE CHIEF HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, SO I MOVE WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-29.

THAT'S READ. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

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ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I. I. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

[9.A. ORDINANCE NO. 75-25-29, Public Hearing and Final Reading]

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. COUNTY OF DUVAL, STATE OF FLORIDA.

CREATING WITHIN CHAPTER 21, NEW ARTICLE EIGHT REGULATION OF BICYCLES, ELECTRIC BICYCLES AND PERSONAL MOBILITY DEVICES OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR ADOPTION OF SAID AMENDMENTS.

PROVIDING FOR PURPOSE AND INTENT, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MAYOR.

SO, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF THE E-BIKE ORDINANCE, AS IT'S KIND OF JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

IT'S TEN MILES AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT ON THE SIDEWALK, SPEED LIMIT OF THE ROAD IF YOU'RE ON THE ROAD.

AND AS THE BILL IS DRAFTED RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED ON E-BIKE PROPULSION.

THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED ON SELF-PROPULSION, I THINK, ON UNPAVED RIGHT OF WAYS, MULTI-USE PATHS AND THE BEACH.

IT DOES HAVE A PROVISION FOR A CIVIL FINE OF $50.

AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 75-25-29.

AND THE CHIEF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DO WE WANT TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? YEAH.

SO MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER FORMS. OKAY. THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

I MOVE, WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 75-25-29 AS READ.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CHIEF, CAN I GET YOU UP FRONT? I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAD OFF THE CONVERSATION. I ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T ASK IT, AND I SHOULD HAVE. ON THE LAST READING, WHAT, IF ANY INJURIES HAVE BEEN REPORTED OR ACCIDENTS OR ENGAGEMENTS WITH E-BIKES HAVE OCCURRED ON THE BEACH THAT YOU KNOW, OF.

VAGUELY. THE CHIEF OF POLICE ON THE BEACH. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, SIR.

OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? YES. I SAW IN THE NEWS. Y'ALL WERE DOING AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION THIS WEEKEND.

SO HOW DID THAT GO? I DIDN'T GET ANY DATA FROM THAT.

I GAVE THAT LITTLE LEEWAY TO THE SERGEANTS TO WORK WITH NEPTUNE BEACH OR JAX BEACH TO DO SOME BICYCLE ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER AREA PRIMARILY.

SO THEY WERE DOING BICYCLE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS VEHICLES, PEDESTRIANS, IF ANYTHING CAME UP, THEY WERE JUST GOING TO GO OUT AND DEAL WITH IT.

I DIDN'T GET ANY RESOUNDING EMAILS, SO I'M ASSUMING IT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY MUNDANE.

IT'S NOT BROKE. YEAH. OKAY. YES, COMMISSIONER.

YEAH. I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK FROM THAT, AND IT WENT WELL.

SO I GUESS THERE WERE SOME CARS THAT WERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CLUB ON CLUB DRIVE AND SOME MARINA, SOME E-BIKES WERE GOING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN, SO HE PULLED THEM OVER AND TOLD THEM, HEY, IT'S COMING. WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE, WHICH IS GOOD.

I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. AND I GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM EMAILS THAT WE MAY HAVE ALL GOTTEN SOME ABOUT PROTESTING THE USE OF E-BIKES IN PARKS. AND I WENT BACK AND JUST SAID, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING TO TREAT THESE, AT LEAST IN MY MIND AS A MOTORCYCLE, YOU KNOW, AS, YOU KNOW, SLOW, SLOWER MOTORCYCLE, BUT ESSENTIALLY A POWERED VEHICLE THAT CAN DO A PRETTY GOOD SPEED. AND DO YOU REALLY WANT TO MIX THOSE WITH, YOU KNOW PEDAL, PEDAL POWERED BIKES? WAS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT YOU CAN MAKE ON THAT JUST AS TO THE, YOU KNOW, FURTHER RATIONALE WHY WE PERMITTED THAT OR NOT ALLOWING THEM TO RIDE THERE? SO, THERE ARE MANY PARKS THROUGHOUT THE US, FLORIDA, TOO, OBVIOUSLY, THAT DESIGNATE PARTICULAR TRAILS FOR PEDESTRIANS ONLY.

OKAY. I'D SAY IT PROBABLY HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE DESIGN OF THE TRAIL NETWORK.

IF THEY ARE DESIGNED TO HANDLE BOTH MODES OF TRANSPORTATION IS PROBABLY FINE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT MUCH THOUGHT WENT INTO OUR TRAIL.

NETWORKS ARE PRIMARILY MEANT FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC.

OKAY. SO AGAIN, IF WE MIX VEHICLES THAT GO PRETTY FAST, IF YOU PUT A LITTLE BIT AND PUSH A BUTTON THE ABILITY TO NAVIGATE THOSE TRAIL SYSTEMS SAFELY WITH PEOPLE AND DOGS ON LEASHES AND MOVING DEVICES LIKE E-BIKES, I THINK WE NEED TO ASK OURSELVES AS A COMMUNITY IF THAT WAS OUR INTENT FOR OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS. AND THERE ARE EVEN DAYS ON SOME PARKS THAT DESIGNATE A PARTICULAR TRAIL SYSTEM ONLY FOR PEDESTRIANS AND E-BIKES

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SO, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, IS THAT THE BEST USE OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS, THE WAY THEY'RE DESIGNED? IS IT THE SAFEST ASPECT? AND WHAT ARE WE LOSING? THERE IS AN EXCEPTION IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT SAYS, LOOK, IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE YOUR E-BIKE UNDER HUMAN POWER, YOU'RE WELCOME TO RIDE YOUR BIKE THROUGH OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS. IT'S JUST UNDER POWER THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. MAYBE LONG WINDED HERE, BUT AS A MATTER OF ENFORCEMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT THERE LOOKING RIGHT FOR THESE THINGS AND WE'LL GET COMPLAINTS AND SAYS, HEY, THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE OR SOMEONE THAT COMES THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY ABOUT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND AN OFFICER OUT, BUT IT'S COMMON SENSE IF A BIKE'S GOING ABOUT TEN MILES AN HOUR OR LESS AND SOMEONE'S PEDALING, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO CHALK THAT UP TO THEY'RE PROBABLY UNDER HUMAN POWER.

YEAH. IF SOMEONE'S ZIPPING ALONG LIKE YOU GUYS SAW ON THE SIDEWALK AT 15 MILES AN HOUR, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO TELL THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT HUMAN POWER.

YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE IN THE PARK. YEAH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY TALK TO THAT PERSON. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YES, COMMISSIONER. SO DURING THAT SURVEY, DID THAT HAPPEN ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY THAT YOU WERE, AND YOU WERE JUST PARKED OUTSIDE WHERE? ATLANTIC.

AND I GUESS THAT'S OCEAN MEET. I'M NOT AWARE OF WHICH DAY THE OFFICERS WERE OUT THERE.

WE ASKED THEM TO GO AHEAD AND GO OUT AND DO SOME DIRECT ENFORCEMENT FOR PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE.

I DIDN'T. ALL PEDESTRIAN BIKING OR JUST E-BIKES.

OH, OKAY. AND WHAT WERE SOME OF THE TICKETS YOU WROTE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY TICKETS THAT WERE WRITTEN. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY REPORT BACK FROM THE WEEKEND.

I JUST GOT BACK IN TOWN; I APOLOGIZE. OH. IT'S OKAY.

IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR. YES. SO I TALKED TO COMMANDER CAMERON THIS AFTERNOON, AND HE WASN'T AWARE THAT WE WROTE ANY TICKETS HERE OR IN JAX BEACH.

SO THAT ISSUE THAT CAME THROUGH THAT'S ACTUALLY FIRST AND SECOND STREET.

JAX BEACH. OKAY. THE ONLY THING HE WAS AWARE OF IS THAT THEY WERE STOPPING PEOPLE AND GIVING THEM WARNINGS.

OKAY. BUT THEY WEREN'T ACTUALLY ISSUING TICKETS.

RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, BLOWING THROUGH A STOP SIGN ON AN E-BIKE, GOING 15 MILES AN HOUR IS ONE THING.

YOU KNOW, COASTING THROUGH ON A BICYCLE THAT'S HUMAN POWERED.

IT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION, I THINK EVEN CHIEF VICK, YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN YOU FIRST PROPOSED E-BIKE ORDINANCE TO US THAT WE'RE ALL SORT OF GUILTY OF THAT. SO BUT I LIKE THAT YOU SHARED THAT YOU WOULD USE YOUR DISCRETION.

CLEARLY, IF YOU ARE AN OFFICER PARKED OUT LOOKING FOR SUCH THINGS, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR RECKLESS DRIVERS AND RECKLESS OPERATORS OF THE E-BIKES. TRY TO USE SOME COMMON SENSE. YES, AND A LITTLE GOOD JUDGMENT.

SO IF SOMEONE ROLLS THROUGH NICE AND SLOW AND THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO VEHICLES AT THE OPPOSING INTERSECTIONS.

I THINK THE OFFICERS CAN HAVE A LITTLE MORE LENIENCE THAN IF THERE ARE CARS WAITING TO GO THROUGH OR BIKES WAITING TO GO THROUGH, AND SOMEONE CLEARLY VIOLATES SOMEONE'S RIGHT OF WAY, JUST AS THEY WOULD IF IT WERE A CAR. I SEE.

PERFECT. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STATE WHY I BROUGHT THE CHIEF UP AND ASKED THE QUESTION I DID.

I RECEIVED COMMUNICATION FROM SEVERAL CITIZENS OVER THE PAST WEEK OR SO OBJECTING TO THE EXCLUSION OF E-BIKES ON THE BEACH.

AND SPECIFICALLY, THESE WERE OLDER CITIZENS. I DON'T WANT TO SAY ELDERLY BECAUSE I MIGHT BE IN THAT CATEGORY, BUT THEY STRUGGLE PEDALING OCCASIONALLY THROUGH SOFT SAND AND SO ON, AND THEY USE THEIR E-BIKES ON THE BEACH, AND THEY KNOW OF NO INSTANCE WHERE THERE'S AN ISSUE.

THEY DON'T SEE ISSUES WITH THE CRAZY E-BIKE BEHAVIOR ON THE BEACH.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU, DO WE HAVE ANY HISTORY OF PROBLEMS? AND THEN FINALLY I REACHED OUT TO MY COUNTERPART, THE MAYOR OF NEPTUNE BEACH, TODAY, AND SHE KNOWS OF NO ISSUE AND NO MOVEMENT TO ADD E-BIKES TO THE EXCLUSION IN THEIR ORDINANCE FROM THE BEACH.

SO THEY DO NOT CURRENTLY REGULATE E-BIKES ON THE BEACH.

AND I KNOW, COMMISSIONER RING, YOU HAD ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.

SO BEFORE I MAKE ANY MORE COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU, DO YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT INFORMS YOU THAT WE SHOULD, IN FACT, LEGISLATE E-BIKES ON THE BEACH? MY CONCERN WAS THOSE WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE OPERATORS OF AN E-BIKE, IN PARTICULAR SENIOR CITIZENS OR EVEN RESPONSIBLE ADULTS GOING AT A DECENT SPEED.

AND I'VE SPOKEN TO MULTIPLE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DISABLED AND UTILIZE E-BIKES AS A RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY.

AND THEY DO SO WISELY. THEY DO SO WITHOUT HARM TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND HARM TO PEDESTRIANS WALKING AROUND THE BEACH AREA OR IN THE PARKS. HOWEVER, I AM AWARE ALSO OF THOSE WHO ARE BAD ACTORS OF E-BIKES AND ZIPPING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, IRRESPONSIBLY AND RECKLESSLY. AND I THINK ABOUT THE HARM OF A CHILD OR EVEN, YOU KNOW,

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SO I'M REALLY MULLING IT OVER. AND I CONSIDERED BRINGING TO THE COMMISSION MAYBE DESIGNATED TIME FRAMES OF E-BIKE USAGE ON THE BEACH, WHICH WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER BEACH CITIES DO FOR DOGS.

THAT WAY THEY COULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION OR EVEN LOOKING AT AGE.

BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU COULD REGULATE AN AGE ON THE E-BIKE WITHOUT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THE WAY SOMEONE.

YEAH. AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THAT MENTAL EXERCISE, BECAUSE I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT.

COULD YOU REGULATE BASED ON AGE? AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT VERSUS A BLANKET PROHIBITION.

I'M WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK THOUGH, IS I'M GOING TO ASK THIS COMMISSION FOR SOMEBODY TO MOVE FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE BEFORE WE PASS IT, TO ELIMINATE IT OR STRIKE IT FROM THE ORDINANCE TODAY FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.

NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE A COMPLETE STUDY DONE FOR THE THREE BEACH CITIES BY THE TPO ON E-BIKES.

IS IT? IT'S BICYCLE SAFETY AND E-BIKES, IS IT NOT? IT'S E-VEHICLES. OH. IT'S E-VEHICLES. OKAY, SO WE WILL HAVE THAT STUDY TO REVIEW, AND WE CAN AMEND OUR ORDINANCE.

I STILL SAY WE SHOULD BE WILLING TO AMEND ORDINANCES AS WE LEARN.

BUT HEARING OF NO ISSUES CURRENTLY, I WORRY ABOUT LEGISLATING A PERCEIVED ILL THAT DOESN'T EXIST. AND SO I'M ASKING FOR ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I'M NOT ABLE IN THIS CHAIR TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR AN AMENDMENT TO THIS AND PASS IT FOR NOW, WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT WE'LL REVISIT AFTER WE GET THAT E-BIKE STUDY NEXT YEAR.

BECAUSE IT I BELIEVE IT WILL NOT BE JUST THIS ISSUE, BUT THERE WILL BE OTHER LEARNINGS THAT WILL OCCUR OVER THE NEXT YEAR THAT WILL INFORM OUR REVISIONS, IF YOU WILL, OF THE ORDINANCE. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO THAT. WE AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 75-25-29 TO REMOVE THE PORTION OF REGULATING E-BIKES ON THE BEACH. AND THAT WAS I ACTUALLY HAD IT A MINUTE AGO.

WHERE IS IT NOW? IT'S ON PAGE 95. SO IT'S. OH, IT WOULD BE EVERYTHING OR INCLUSIVE OF BEFORE AND AFTER.

WHERE IS IT? I CAN NEVER SEE IT. THIS IS. I'M NOT LOOKING AT 95.

IS IT HERE? OH. OH, YES. OKAY, THAT'S ON PAGE 93 OF THE ORDINANCE.

SORRY. SO. OKAY, SO THE SENTENCE THAT SAYS UPON ANY CITY TRAIL NETWORK, COMMA, UPON ANY UNPAVED PORTION OF A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR UPON THE BEACH.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT? WE REMOVE THE WORDS OR UPON THE BEACH.

YOU'RE ON PAGE 9393, AND IT'S THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN.

IT'S SECTION 21-107 SUBGROUP AN B, AND THEN PART B, PART B, PART B, OKAY.

SO AND WE'RE JUST TAKING OUT OR UPON THE BEACH, WHICH IS THE LAST FOUR WORDS OF THAT.

OKAY. SO I MOVE THAT WE AMEND ORDINANCE NUMBER 75-25-29 AMENDING THE REMOVAL OF OR UPON THE BEACH TO SECTION 21-107 SUBPART B.

GOOD. DO WE HAVE A SECOND ON THAT, COMMISSIONER? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO, WE'LL VOTE FIRST ON THAT, AND THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE.

ANY DISCUSSION? YES, COMMISSIONER. I WORKED WITH A LOT MORE 14 YEAR OLDS THAN 70 YEAR OLDS.

YEAH. AND IF THERE IS WHO'S ON THE BEACH WHEN SCHOOL LETS OUT THE 14 YEAR OLDS? AND I'M SORRY, BUT IF I WAS 14, I'D BE GOING HELL BENT FOR LEATHER.

AND I THINK IF AS POTENTIAL LITTLE LADY ON THE BEACH.

IF, IF I WAS PUTTERING ALONG AT TEN MILES AN HOUR, I WOULD NEVER I WOULD NEVER CONDONE BREAKING THE LAW, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY DISCREETLY TURN MINE ON AND PUTTER ALONG.

CORRECT. YES, YES. COMMISSIONER. AND I THINK THIS COMES BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER ABOUT STOP SIGNS AND ROLLING BICYCLES, ROLLING THROUGH A STOP SIGN AT FIVE MILES AN HOUR VERSUS AN E-BIKE BLOWING THROUGH AT 15 MILES AN HOUR.

[01:25:03]

THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN ABOUT CARELESS OPERATION.

THAT WOULD APPLY. AND MAYBE I NEED TO CLARIFY MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT.

MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DATA THAT SAYS THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS ON THE BEACH. WE HAVE PLENTY OF COMPLAINTS. YES.

OVER THE LAST 3 OR 4 YEARS NOW, THERE. NOT EVERY WEEKEND, BUT THEY ARE.

THEY HAVE HAPPENED. BUT I THINK WE'VE HOPEFULLY MITIGATED MOST OF THAT.

YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THAT POSSIBILITY AND THAT REALITY, ALTHOUGH I'M ALSO THINKING IN TERMS OF NOW, WE GOT TO HAVE ONE OF YOUR SQUAD CARS ON THE BEACH PATROLLING.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IF IT DOES HAPPEN, THEN WE NEED TO FUND THAT.

SO WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT DISCUSSION. I'D JUST LIKE TO PAUSE.

I'M JUST ASKING FOR A PAUSE ON THAT PORTION UNTIL WE HAVE MORE FEEDBACK.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, CHIEF IS GOING TO HAVE PLENTY TO KEEP HIM BUSY ENFORCING THE SIDEWALK PORTION AND THE REST OF IT IN ON THE CITY STREETS.

SO HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NAY.

OKAY. WE HAVE THREE AYES AND ONE NAY. THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL VOTE ON THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NAY.

OKAY. WE HAVE THREE AYES AND ONE NAY. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. CHIEF. MOVING TO 9.B ORDINANCE NUMBER 57-2025-25, PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL

[9.B. ORDINANCE NO. 57-25-25, Public Hearing and Final Reading]

COUNTY OF DUVAL, STATE OF FLORIDA. AMENDING SECTION 13 DASH TWO CAMPING AND OBSTRUCTING PUBLIC STREETS.

PUBLIC PLACES PROHIBITED. PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION, PROVIDING FOR APPLICABILITY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO, THIS IS THE SECOND READING OF WHAT'S CALLED THE CAMPING ORDINANCE.

IT BRINGS OUR ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH CHANGES BY STATE STATUTE.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT CASE LAW, REPRESENTS BEST PRACTICE, AND RECOGNIZES THAT HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS NEED ACCESS TO SUPPORT SERVICES.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 5725-25, AND THE CHIEF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 5725-25, AND WE HAVE TO OPEN THE HEARING.

OH. OH, OKAY. SO YOU CAN TAKE A SECOND AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP TO SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THAT? I HAVE NO PUBLIC. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU. NOW, BACK TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IT WILL OPEN UP DISCUSSION. AND DO WE NEED CHIEF TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS? OKAY, THEN. CHIEF, YOU'RE FREE TO MOVE ABOUT THE CABIN FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES.

IF WE HAVE NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I.

I. OPPOSED? UNANIMOUS MOTION OR UNANIMOUS VOTE? THANK YOU. ITEM NINE, C ORDINANCE NUMBER 95-25-126.

[9.C. ORDINANCE NO. 95-25-126, Public Hearing and Final Reading]

TO ADD DISTURBING THE PEACE PROVISION TO AMEND THE RUNNING AT LARGE AND CITATIONS AND PENALTIES SECTIONS TO ADD A NEW IMPOUND AND BOARDING FEES PROVISION. PROVIDING FOR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

PROVIDING FOR PROHIBITIONS. PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT.

PROVIDING FOR CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY. PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION IN THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS, TOO, IS A SECOND READING.

IT'S ALSO LARGELY DESIGNED TO BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, THE STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 95-25-126.

AND THE CHIEF IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. OKAY.

WELL, WE'LL HOLD ON THAT FOR NOW, AND WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE, WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 95-25-126.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION.

OKAY. HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. 9 .D, ORDINANCE NUMBER 20-25-178.

[9.D. ORDINANCE NO. 20-25-178, Public Hearing and Final Reading]

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MR. KILLINGSWORTH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO BRING IN LINE WHAT OUR ACTUAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES ARE, REVENUES BEING GRANTS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING, AND THEN EXPENDITURES FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION FOR THREE PROJECTS.

THE FIRST BEING THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE REDESIGN AND REHAB OF THAT BUILDING, WHICH IS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE ACTUALLY INSIDE DOING SOME DEMOLITION WORK ON IT STARTING THIS WEEK.

STARTING TODAY. THE OTHER IS THE AQUATIC GARDENS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. IT'S NOT EVEN LATE YET.

LOOK ACROSS THE GARDENS CULVERT AND POND WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THERE.

AND THEN THE LAST IS A CUTLASS DRIVE CULVERT DESIGN.

WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVING ORDINANCE 20-25-178.

OKAY, WE'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? SPEAKERS? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE, WE APPROVE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 20-25-178 AS READ.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 11. CITY ATTORNEY.

WHAT SAY YOU? I DO NOT HAVE A REPORT TODAY, SIR.

OKAY. MADAM CLERK, WHAT A WONDERFUL SURPRISE HAVING YOU ON THE DAIS WITH US TONIGHT.

I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOURSELF STAYING, STAYING LATE.

AND THANK YOU FOR A JOB WELL DONE. THANK YOU.

ANY COMMENTS? NOPE. NO COMMENT. OKAY. NO RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CLEAN IT UP.

TIGHTEN IT UP. NO. OKAY. FABULOUS JOB. THANK YOU.

[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]

I HAVE NONE. COMMISSIONER KELLY. NONE. COMMISSIONER RING.

I HAVE NOTHING. MR. KILLINGSWORTH. NOTHING FURTHER? OKAY. I'LL JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT. I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

BACK IN MY DAY, I WILL BE LEAVING HERE TO DRIVE DIRECTLY TO TALLAHASSEE TO PARTICIPATE IN LEGISLATIVE DAYS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

IT WILL ALLOW ME TO GET THERE BEFORE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN TO ADVOCATE FOR HOME RULE, FOR SURE.

AND A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN COLLABORATING WITH OUR SISTER CITIES ON.

SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.