[CALL TO ORDER]
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THIS JOINT MEETING COMMISSION WORKSHOP WITH THE ESC AND THE CITY COMMISSION IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER FOR MONDAY, APRIL 14TH, 2025. DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL OR LADAYIJA? CALL].
[1. PRESENTATION BY ESC CHAIR]
OKAY. PRESENTATION BY ESC CHAIR. WE KNOW WHO THAT IS.SARAH, COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING.
PLEASE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. YES. THANK YOU. SO THANKS FOR LETTING US PRESENT.
WE HOPEFULLY RESPONDED TO YOUR REQUEST TO NARROW OUR NUMBER OF PRIORITIES DOWN.
SO WE'LL KIND OF, I'LL JUST REALLY QUICKLY.
YOU'RE ALL GOOD. NO WORRIES. THERE YOU GO.
OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO PLOW THROUGH THIS PRETTY FAST.
THAT WE CAN DO AFTER OUR, FOCUSING ON THE FIVE PRIORITIES.
AND THEN WE'RE RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS ABOUT LEED RECERTIFICATION.
SO YOU ALL KNOW-- DO YOU WANT TO CONTROL IT, DONNA? DO YOU WANT ME? WHATEVER'S EASIEST FOR YOU. OKAY, GREAT.
SO WE ALL KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THE ESC. BASICALLY, WE STUDY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND RESPOND TO REQUESTS ABOUT THE MARITIME, FOREST, PARKS AND OPEN SPACES, BEAUTIFICATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES, AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. AND OUR PURPOSE, NUMBER TWO, IS TO ACT AS A MOTIVATING AND COORDINATING BODY TO PROMOTING THESE PURPOSES.
SO OUR TOP FIVE PRIORITIES THAT WE ARE HOPING THAT THE COMMISSION WILL CONSIDER ARE THE THING THAT'S OKAY. ARE THE THINGS THAT NEED FUNDING OR SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME.
FOUR OF THE FIVE PRIORITIES ARE ABOUT TREES. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, JUST TO KIND OF KEEP WORKING ON OUR TREE CANOPY, IT TAKES SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY THROUGH THE TREE MITIGATION FUND.
SO WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE YOU APPROVE THE TREE MITIGATION FUND 2025-26 ACTION AND SPENDING PLAN.
HELP KIND OF WELCOME OUR CHAPTER 23 REVISION REVISIONS AND DECIDE YAY OR NAY DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH US TO FIND INCENTIVES FOR PROTECTING MATURE TREES AND CREATING A TREE REPORT BOTH QUARTERLY AND KIND OF STATE OF THE TREE ANNUAL REPORT. AND THEN OUR FIFTH IS TO WORK TOWARDS THE 2050 GOALS AND LEED RECERTIFICATION.
THE 2050 GOALS WAS PASSED IN OUR COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN IN 2022.
YOU KNOW, AS A PLAN. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE GET YOU'LL DIRECT STAFF TO HELP US IMPLEMENT THAT, NOT ESC. THE WHOLE CITY. ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO, KEEPING THIS SIMPLE. DO YOU HAVE ANY HEARTBURN WITH ANY OF THESE PRIORITIES? COMMISSIONER NOT HEARTBURN, BUT WHAT? WHAT WOULD THE TREE REPORT DO FOR US? SO IT'LL GIVE US DATA THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY.
WE DON'T HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF HOW WE'RE LOSING OUR TREES.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE LOSING THEM THROUGH. WE KNOW SOME ON PERMITS, WE KNOW SOME ON ARBORIST LETTERS.
BUT THE ARBORIST LETTERS COME IN VERY VAGUE. THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DATA.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE LOSING FROM STORMS. AND WE DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY ABOUT DISEASE ET CETERA.
SO IT'S A MORE FULL ACCOUNTING. IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN STREAMLINE THINGS, LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE FUND. SO HOW MUCH CAN WE STRATEGICALLY PLAN, HOW MUCH WE'RE LOSING, HOW MUCH WE NEED TO REPLANT. YOU KNOW, CAN WE WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND HOW MANY MATURE TREES WE HAVE LIKE THAT? WE JUST NEED TO START GETTING BETTER DATA. SO AS AN ADD ON TO THAT QUESTION, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU ENVISION HIRING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO
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COMPLETE OR SOMEHOW GETTING IT DONE THROUGH? I DON'T KNOW HOW CITY STAFF WOULD DO THAT.SO THIS IS WHERE IT'S NOT MONEY, BUT IT'S SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME.
SO WHEN WE OR SOME STAFF TIME. SO WHEN WE JUST HAVE TO KIND OF SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT YOU KNOW WHAT, MONEY'S COMING IN FOR MITIGATION.
WHEN WE CAN USE IT. WHERE DOES IT COME FROM AND WHY? AND THEN, LIKE, ON THE ARBORIST LETTERS WE HAD A VOLUNTEER CATALOG, BUT MAYBE WE CAN REQUIRE A BIT MORE REGULAR INFORMATION ON THOSE ARBORIST LETTERS. SAME WITH GETTING THE TREE PERMITS ONLINE SO IT REDUCES STAFF TIME.
SO YOU JUST SPITS OUT A CSV AND WE CAN WORK WITH THAT DATA.
I DON'T ENVISION A CONSULTANT THIS YEAR. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT THERE'S DIFFERENT SYSTEMS TALKING TO EACH OTHER, AND WE CAN GET A CLEARER PICTURE. THEY ALREADY DO A PRETTY GOOD QUARTERLY REPORT.
IT'S JUST NOT PALATABLE. IT'S NOT EASY TO READ, AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE I CAN, YOU KNOW, A SITE THAT MITIGATES MAY NOT CLOSE OUT FOR 2 TO 3 YEARS. SO IT'S LIKE THE TIMING, THE DELAY. SO WE JUST NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME TO KIND OF FIGURE IT ALL OUT AND HOW TO PRESENT IT AND ACTUALLY KNOW THAT WE CAN TRUST THE DATA.
SURE. WELL, YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE, RIGHT? RIGHT. YES. COMMISSIONER. HEY, SARAH. I AGREE WITH ALL THE PRIORITIES THAT THE FIFTH ONE, THOUGH, CONCERNED ME A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT DOES REFER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY REPORT, AND IT DOES COVER A BROAD SPECTRUM OF THINGS.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO TACKLE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE LINE ITEMS IN THERE, OR IS THAT JUST A GOOD REPORT THAT LISTS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN, BUT WHO'S REALLY IS IT REALLY GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, ESCS RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY AND MAKE THEM HAPPEN? BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY I READ IT. NO. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DISCONNECT WAS IN THE PAST.
OKAY. SO IN THE IN 2018, THE COMMISSION MADE IT A PRIORITY TO GO FOR LEED CERTIFICATION.
AND IT IS TOWARDS 2050. RIGHT. IT'S NOT IN THE NEXT YEAR.
RIGHT. AND WHAT THE PLAN ASKS IS THAT THE WHOLE CITY WORKS ON IT.
AND IT'S THE DEPARTMENTS AND IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH.
IT'S NOT. IN FACT, ESC WOULD JUST BE THAT ADVISORY GUIDANCE ROLE.
OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. YES, COMMISSIONER. I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CHAPTER 23 REVISIONS.
I DON'T SEE THEM. AND WHERE ARE THOSE? AND I KNOW YOU HAVE WORKED ON THEM IN ESC.
AND WHAT WAS THE VOTE ON ALL OF THOSE? YOU UNANIMOUS TO BRING THEM TO YOU? ALL OF THEM. YEAH. OKAY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO GET YOU A COPY.
YES. YEAH. I JUST I WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN WAITING TO COME TO YOU, BUT I THINK THERE'S BEEN OTHER PRIORITIES, LIKE CHAPTER 24, AND THERE'S OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, I DEFER TO THE CITY MANAGER WHEN THINGS COME TO YOU.
SO WE'RE JUST HOPING TO GET THIS DONE THIS YEAR.
OKAY. SURE. SO ONCE WE DO AGREE ON THESE FIVE, WHEN WE SAY THE SECOND WE'RE WE'LL BE GIVEN THE CHAPTER 23 THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM ALL OR HOW WILL THAT. YEAH. IT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHAT TO ACCEPT OR NOT TO ACCEPT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I AGAIN, I DEFER TO STAFF WHEN IT COMES TO YOU, BUT BASICALLY, SORRY.
OKAY. I SEE. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BILL, THE MAYOR COMMISSIONER.
YES, IT'D BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BILL IN WHICH WE WOULD BRING TO YOU.
AND THEN YOU GUYS WOULD DEBATE IT AND YOU WOULD EITHER APPROVE IT OR AMEND IT OR DENY IT.
AND GOOD LUCK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A HARD ONE.
HOW TO THREAD SOME IDEAS. OKAY. CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THEM.
YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I DO HAVE ONE. THE SECOND QUESTION IS IF YOU IF OUR PRIORITIES DON'T MAKE IT INTO YOUR PRIORITIES, ARE WE STILL ALLOWED TO WORK ON THEM? BUT KNOWING THAT WE WON'T GET ANY FISCAL SUPPORT OR SIGNIFICANT STAFF TIME.
YES, PLEASE. SO THE COMMISSION MAY FEEL OTHERWISE.
SO THAT, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY LAST TIME THEY'RE DONE IN JANUARY, RIGHT, BUT DONE IN JANUARY.
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SO THIS SESSION, I'M DOING IT JUST BEFORE WE START THE BUDGET PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THE PRIORITIES IN IN THIS BUDGET SESSION, RATHER THAN JUST HAVING A BUNCH OF SHEETS AND PLAYING THE DOT GAME.IT IS STILL BE THE DOT GAME BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT THE PLAN IS YOU HAVE TO EXPEND SO MANY DOTS IN THIS CATEGORY, SO MANY DOTS IN THIS CATEGORY, SO MANY DOTS IN THIS CATEGORY. THAT WAY THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONE PRIORITY FOR ESC, AT LEAST ONE PRIORITY FOR ART, AT LEAST ONE PRIORITY FOR WHATEVER OTHER CATEGORIES WE HAVE THERE.
SO THAT'S AT LEAST MY PLAN IS THAT ESC IS NOT JUST ESC, BUT THE COMMISSION IS TASKED OR CHALLENGED WITH IDENTIFYING PRIORITIES IN MULTIPLE CATEGORIES.
OKAY, SO JUST TO PEEL THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
IF WE WERE TO FIND A, I DON'T KNOW, A GRANT TO COVER LEADS OR RECERTIFICATION COSTS OR WHATEVER, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT? WELL, I THINK YOU PRESET THE, THE REASONING IF YOU DON'T NEED CITY STAFF AND YOU'RE DOING IT AS A BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY THINGS YOU'RE WORKING ON OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AND OR DECADES.
OKAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT.
THE CAUTION ALWAYS IS HOW MUCH RESOURCES DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR COMMITTEE? AND IF THE COMMITTEE IS NINE, NOT 11 OR 11, NOT 13, IS IT ENOUGH STAFF TO KEEP ON TRACK WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DOING? THAT'S YOUR CALL? YES. YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE A GRANT, I MEAN, THE FIRST STEP IS YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION AND GET THE GRANT APPROPRIATED. BUT ASSUMING THAT HAPPENED, THEN I WOULD ARGUE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PERMISSION.
THAT WOULD BE. I'M SORRY. THE PERMISSION. OKAY.
YEAH. OKAY. I JUST YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LIKE WE UNDERSTAND WE WON'T GET FUNDING OR STAFF SUPPORT NECESSARILY, BUT THAT WE CAN KEEP MARCHING ON. SURE. ABSOLUTELY.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS KIND OF ONCE WE'VE FOCUSED ON THE FIVE PRIORITIES CAN WE KIND OF KEEP MARCHING ON WITH WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO? SO I'M SORRY FOR THE AUDIENCE, BUT IT WAS TOO MANY SLIDES TO SHOW THE LIST.
BUT BASICALLY, THE QUESTION ON THAT ON THE KIND OF WHAT I CALL THE PERMISSION LIST IS, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THOSE THE ADDITIONAL PRIORITIES, THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE WANT TO MAYBE BRING TO YOU OUR EVENTS, KIND OF OUR ONGOING ITEMS THAT WE TYPICALLY DO. IS THERE ANYTHING ON THAT LIST YOU DO NOT WANT US TO WORK ON IN 25 OR 26? YES. COMMISSIONER, I THINK SOME OF THAT WOULD DEPEND, SARAH, ON WHAT WE END UP WITH OUR OVERALL PRIORITIES.
YES. YOU KNOW, AND SO IF LIKE WE'VE ALREADY DONE TO OUR DRIVE.
SO DO SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN OKAY.
THAT WAS THE ONLY THAT THAT'S THE AMENDMENT I WOULD THINK WOULD HAPPEN.
SO KIND OF A SLIGHT REALIGNMENT ONCE WE KNOW.
YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. MAKES SENSE. MR. KILLINGSWORTH, WHEN DO YOU ESTIMATE THAT WE WOULD ADDRESS AND IDENTIFY THE PRIORITIES PRIOR TO THE FIRST BUDGET SESSION. I'M PLANNING IN MAY. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING.
FINALLY, WE WILL ACTUALLY BE MOVING FORWARD GETTING SOMETHING DONE ON THAT.
SO, WE'LL GET THAT. I GUESS MY FURTHER POINT IS I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER EVERYTHING TODAY.
AND I'LL CERTAINLY HAVE FEEDBACK. BUT WE'LL BE ADDRESSING IT IN MAY SO THAT'S GOOD.
THE PRIORITIES. AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT YOU TO WORK ON OKAY.
BUT FIRST GLANCE. OH, I THINK, MAJOR, I THINK YOU DID A FABULOUS JOB ON IT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. I WAS JUST LOOKING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
YES. AND KIND OF ITS COST, ET CETERA. SO, BRIEFLY IN THE HISTORY THE COMMISSION IN 2018 PUT IT ON THEIR PRIORITIES. SO IN 2019 WE GOT CERTIFICATION.
AND THEN IN 2022 WE GOT ACTUALLY KIND OF A GRANT FROM THE BANK OF AMERICA AND USGBC TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE, THE, THE, THE KIND OF FULL VERSION, MORE ROBUST VERSION.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO ELEVATE OUR SCORE TO 2022.
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AND THAT CREATED THE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN. THE BENEFITS THAT IT HAS GIVEN US YOU KNOW, IT IN HIGH LEVEL TERMS, IT BASICALLY IS VERY GOOD GOVERNANCE.IT GIVES US A FRAMEWORK. IT TELLS US WHERE OUR GAPS ARE AND IDENTIFY OUR GAPS.
IT LETS US KNOW WHERE OUR RISK IS. PARTICULARLY WITH RESILIENCY.
IT MEASURES PERFORMANCE. IT FOSTERS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS ABOUT IT.
IT IMPROVES COMMUNICATIONS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BREAK DOWN SILOS OF DEPARTMENTS.
YOU'RE ALL KIND OF MOVING FORWARD, MEASURING THE SAME THING IN THE SAME WAY.
WE HAVE CERTAINLY AS A CITY DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, FIRST IN THE WORLD TO GET TO RECERTIFY AND UNDER, UNDER THE PILOT AND THE AND 4.1 VERSION. IT CAN REDUCE INSURANCE RATES LIKE IT HELPS.
IT WILL TIE INTO OUR COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.
MAY I JUST STOP YOU? BECAUSE I WANTED TO HEAR AN EXAMPLE.
CAN YOU GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT WOULD IMPROVE INSURANCE RATES? SO IT SHOWS SO ON THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM, THERE'S LIKE A SCORE FROM 0 TO 10.
RIGHT. AND THERE'S LIKE SEVERAL THINGS THAT A COMMUNITY CAN DO.
AND PART OF THAT, SOME OF THOSE POINTS ARE ABOUT SHOWING A PLAN THAT YOU HAVE A RESILIENCE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE KIND OF READY. YOU'RE READY FOR WHAT'S COMING.
AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT LEAD DOES FOR YOU. SO PARDON MY IGNORANCE.
BUT I'D NEVER HEARD ABOUT THIS FOR REGULAR HAZARD INSURANCE FIRE COVERAGE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FIRE COVERAGE. SO WHEN YOU SAY INSURANCE RATE, WHICH INSURANCE RATES? FLOOD. FLOOD. WELL, OKAY. SO WE ALREADY GET RELIEF FROM FEMA WHEN WE DO THINGS LIKE RAISE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.
RIGHT. AND SO, YOU'RE SAYING FEMA ALSO USES. NO, NO, NO.
LEAD HELPS WITH THAT ARGUMENT FOR RELIEF FROM FEMA AND OUR CRS.
YEAH, I NEED TO KNOW MORE, BUT NOT TONIGHT. THANKS FOR SHARING.
SURE. AND THEN AS FAR AS COST EVERY FIVE YEARS, THERE'S A RECERTIFICATION FEE.
THEY DO REQUIRE A GREENHOUSE GAS INVENTORY. AND THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET PRO BONO.
WE ALSO THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF CITY OF JACKSONVILLE'S MEMBERSHIP WITH ICLEI KIND OF MAYBE LEVERAGING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. SO WE THINK THAT'S GOOD.
AND THEN THE STAFF TIME WAS THE BIG. THE STAFF TIME WAS THE BIG I THINK QUESTION.
AND I DID TALK COMMISSIONER RING I DID TALK TO SHANE.
OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER, AND HE'S LIKE, HE REITERATED THAT HE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS THAT MUCH TIME.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET ALL THEIR DATA, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DATA THAT LEED USES WILL BE DUVAL COUNTY, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T MEASURE AT A GRANULAR LEVEL.
SO, WE ARE ESTIMATING, YOU KNOW, 60% LESS STAFF TIME.
AND THEN SINCE WE'RE OUT AHEAD, I THINK WE CAN GET A, A STAFF INTERN, A STUDENT INTERN YOU KNOW, ESC MEMBERS CAN DONATE TIME, BUT ALSO LIKE PARTNERING WITH UNIVERSITIES FOR, LIKE, A CLASS TO ADOPT.
I KNOW A JEW PROFESSOR WHO IS VERY INTO THIS, AND HE'S READY TO SIGN UP HIS CLASSES.
OKAY. IF I MAY, MAYOR. YES. SO IN 2018, THE COMMISSION SET THAT PRIORITY FOR LEAD IN PARTICULAR.
THEN IT TOOK OFF IN 2019. SO IN 2026, SINCE WE PAID FOR FIVE YEARS, THAT'S WHEN IT SHOULD CONCLUDE IS THAT THAT'S WHEN IT SHOULD CONCLUDE BECAUSE IT SAYS 8000 FOR FIVE YEARS IN 2027. IN 2027.
CORRECT. OKAY. SO THEN 22 WHAT ELSE HAS HAPPENED IN 23 AS FAR AS.
SO IN 23-24 WELL, WE'RE JUST A FEW MONTHS INTO 25 AS FAR AS THE BENEFITS GOES.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE THAT COMES OUT OF IT. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I WOULD SAY THAT WE BECAUSE THE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN ACTIVELY IMPLEMENTED AS MUCH AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN.
ESC WAS STARTING TO TRY TO DO THINGS WHERE IT DIDN'T TAKE STAFF TIME OR MONEY.
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RIGHT. SO, ONE OF THE THINGS UNDER TRANSFER HERE, I'M GOING TO GO I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY ADVANCE I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK.ALL YOU GUYS ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THIS LEAD FRAMEWORK.
SO LIKE UNDER TRANSPORTATION YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE, OKAY, LIKE DO A FLEET ASSESSMENT.
SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO KIND OF TACKLE A FEW THINGS THAT THAT WOULDN'T TAKE MONEY OR STAFF TIME.
SO TO PAUSE THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFF TIME.
CITY MANAGER, WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALLOCATE OUT TO EACH DIRECTOR TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT ON HOW MUCH TIME LEAD DID TAKE? SO FROM THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO PUBLIC UTILITIES TO PUBLIC WORKS? DO YOU WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN TO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHICH DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE LEADS DOES GO INTO EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT ITSELF.
AND SO NOT TO HAVE A PAST CITY MANAGER ANSWER FOR EVERY DIRECTOR, BUT TO HEAR ARE PRIMARILY, WHAT WERE THE BENEFITS AND COSTS PER DEPARTMENT? WE COULD GET THAT FOR YOU. I MEAN, MOST OF THAT IS WAS DONE BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WHAT WASN'T WAS COORDINATED THROUGH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
IT WAS I CAN GET YOU I CAN GET YOU SPECIFIC YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOURS WORKED AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T HAVE THOSE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. RIGHT.
OF COURSE. SO WHAT IF I MAY? WHAT I HEARD WHEN I TALKED TO AMANDA WAS WHEN BRIAN BRODELL WAS HERE.
HE SPENT SHE KIND OF PUT HIM ON IT FULL TIME FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
AND I SAID, WAS THAT LIKE A FULL EIGHT HOURS EVERY DAY? SHE'S LIKE, NO, NO, NO, NO, IT WAS JUST AN ACTIVE PROJECT.
AND YOU, I MEAN, SHE CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS FOR SURE, BUT THIS IS WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS.
AND SO WITH LEAD, WHAT TAKES TIME IS THE DATA GATHERING.
RIGHT. SO HE'D BE WAITING FOR OUR WASTE HAULER TO RESPOND ON DATA.
RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WE GET THE CERTIFICATION, BUT IT'S ABOUT CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.
SO IT'S LIKE ADOPTING THIS PROCESS, THIS FRAMEWORK, AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
DOES CITY OF JACKSONVILLE HAVE LEAD? THEY'RE GOING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
THEY'RE GOING FOR IT NOW. YEAH I SEE. AND I DID TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER OF JACKSONVILLE BEACH, AND IT'S ON HIS STRATEGIC PLAN TO DO IT AS WELL.
OH, OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK EXAMPLE, AND I KNOW MY TIME IS UP.
SO UNDER RESILIENCE PLANNING, WHICH WE ALL CARE ABOUT.
RIGHT. THERE ARE SEVERAL KIND OF THRESHOLDS THAT WE NEED TO MEET.
WE BASICALLY MEET ONE AND TWO. SO WE'VE DONE OUR VULNERABILITY AND CAPACITY ASSESSMENT.
WE HAVE A RESILIENCE PLAN. WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A FEW MITIGATION STRATEGIES, BUT WE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW ROCK WE'RE REALLY GOOD. WE ROCK IT ON AN ADAPTATION.
AND THEN THE RESILIENCE PROGRESS. SO THIS IS WHERE I'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT, LIKE, THIS IS WHERE ESC STARTS. WELL, MAYBE THERE'S SOME THINGS WE NEED TO START THIS YEAR IN PLANNING FOR THE RECERTIFICATION IN 2027.
SO WE HAVE TO TO GET RESILIENCE PROGRESS POINTS.
WE HAVE TO REDUCE VULNERABILITY IN AT LEAST TWO SIGNIFICANT THREATS.
SO FOR US THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FLOODING, MAYBE HEAT YOU KNOW STORMS, ET CETERA.
SO I THINK WE MEET THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE'RE MEASURING IT.
AND THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND START MEASURING. SO IT'S JUST IT'S KIND OF,
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YOU KNOW, GETTING AHEAD AND MARCHING FORWARD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.I TRIED TO GIVE A FAIRLY SO I GUESS THREE MINUTES LEFT.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT RECERTIFICATION? YES. ALONG THE RECERTIFICATION, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU IN YOUR LAST 2.5 MINUTES? WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP ESC OR I THINK WE ARE VERY OPEN TO FINDING WHERE WE ALIGN WITH YOU GUYS AND CHARGING FORWARD.
I DID THE VENN DIAGRAM ON THE BACK OF YOUR LEAD FRAMEWORK.
RIGHT. AND THAT FRAMEWORK COVERS A LOT OF THAT.
I THINK WE JUST NEED KIND OF PROACTIVE SUPPORT AND A LOT MORE COMMUNICATION IS WHAT I WOULD SAY.
THANKS. OKAY. SARAH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING CLOSED OF THE JOINT COMMISSION WORKSHOP.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.