THIS COMMISSION WORKSHOP DATED MONDAY, JUNE 16TH, 2025 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.
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WE HAVE ONE PIECE OF BUSINESS TODAY, AND THAT IS UPDATES TO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN.[2. UPDATES TO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN]
I BELIEVE AMANDA, YOU WOULD KICK THIS OFF? YES.HI. GOOD EVENING, AMANDA ASKEW, THE DIRECTOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TONIGHT. AND IT WAS COMMISSIONER RING DID NOTICE THAT YOU DID NOT GET THE PLANS UNTIL THE VERY, VERY LAST MINUTE. AND SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH STAFF WAS MAKING LAST MINUTE TWEAKS AND CHANGES AND RELYING SOME ON OUR CONSULTANTS.
BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THIS IS NOT THE FIRST OR LAST MEETING.
WE'LL BE HAVING A COUPLE MORE MEETINGS. SO WE ARE SOLICITING INPUT.
BUT THIS IS AN UPDATE TO OUR EXISTING COASTAL VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN.
THEY CAN BOTH BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE AND THIS IS JUST UPDATES TO THOSE PLANS.
WE ARE USING THE SAME TECHNICAL CONSULTANTS, JONES EDMONDS.
THEY'RE INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH OUR MODELING AND THE MODELING.
I WANT TO GIVE THANKS AS STAFF TO BOTH STEVE SWANN, OUR CITY ENGINEER, AND GABRIELLE GENEST, OUR CITY PLANNER, WHO HAVE WORKED REALLY TO MAKE THIS DOCUMENT COME INTO FRUITION.
AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE PUBLIC MEETING.
ESC HAS DISCUSSED THIS AT TWO DIFFERENT AGENDAS.
THEY DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE INCORPORATING.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC MEETING IS GOING TO BE ON JUNE 25TH.
WHAT IS COASTAL VULNERABILITY? AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN FIND THESE DOCUMENTS ARE EXISTING DOCUMENTS ON OUR WEB PAGE, BUT IT HELPS A COMMUNITY WITH STRUCTURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSETS AND LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF COASTAL FLOODING AND SEA LEVEL RISE.
THERE IS A DEFINITION THAT THE STATE USES. IT'S THE POTENTIAL FOR LOSS OF, OR HARM OR DANGER TO EXPOSED ASSETS, LARGELY DUE TO COMPLEX INTERACTIONS AMONG THE NATURAL PROCESSES, LAND USE DECISIONS, AND COMMUNITY RESILIENCY.
WE LOOKED AT UPDATING THE FUTURE CONDITIONS OF TIDAL STORM SURGE, RAINFALL AND FLOOD MAPPING.
WE IDENTIFIED THE VULNERABLE AND CRITICAL COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND WE ALSO DID A AS PART OF THIS, A BASELINE FOR THE MARSH.
SO WE WANTED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THE MARSH IS LOCATED, AND WE CAN USE THAT FOR FUTURE TO SEE IF IT'S ERODING OR IF IT IS RETREATING. JUST SO I KNOW WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG IN YOUR POWER.
THIS IS JUST A A POWERPOINT. OKAY? SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS POWERPOINT.
THIS PLAN UPDATE WAS 94%, GRANT FUNDED WAS $162,000, AND THE CITY CONTRIBUTED $10,000 OF THAT CAME FROM TWO DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND THE FDEP FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION RESILIENT GRANT PROGRAM. THE NICE THING ABOUT GETTING THESE DONE IS THIS WILL MAKE US ELIGIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION DOLLARS.
SO WE HOPE TO USE THIS FOR BUDGETING IN THE FUTURE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED ASSETS WISE TO PROTECT, BUT THEN HOPE TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR GRANT FUNDING.
YES. COMMISSIONER. RING. I ACTUALLY JUST SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CITY MANAGER THIS MORNING.
AND THE CITY ENGINEER, ACTUALLY, IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND ONE, BUT ABOUT THE MARSH BASELINE SURVEY.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING HERE. WHEN YOU SAY THE SURVEY WENT OUT AND WAS DONE AND THEN YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET APPLY FOR GRANT MONEY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT ASSESSMENT? SURVEY? I COULDN'T BREAK IT OUT.
TOTAL COST WITH ALL THREE OF THEM WERE OR $162,000.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE ACTUAL THREE OF THEM, WHICH INCLUDES THE THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, THE ADAPTATION PLAN, AND THE MARSH BASELINE STUDY.
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SO THE MARSH WAS SEPARATE. YES, BUT IT'S ALL INTERRELATED.OKAY. RIGHT. THREE TOTAL. SO. AND THEN ONE 60 TWO THAT EACH WAS THERE.
ONE DONE. IN 2018, THERE WAS A COASTAL VULNERABILITY STUDY DONE IN 2018.
IT SPILLED OVER INTO 19. IT WAS APPROVED IN 2019, BUT IT DIDN'T ADDRESS THE MARSH.
NO, THE MARSH IS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSION HAS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY.
BUT BUT BEFORE WE WENT IN AND STARTED DOING PROJECTS, WE KIND OF WANTED TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BENCHMARK, WHERE WE ARE TODAY, SO THAT IN IN A FEW YEARS WE CAN GO BACK AND BENCHMARK IT AGAIN AND WE'LL JUST HAVE SOMETHING ON RECORD SO THAT WE KNOW WE ARE LOSING OUR MARSH, WE'RE GAINING OUR MARSH, SO WE'RE LOSING THE MARSH.
SOMETHING TO MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS FROM. SO WE WANTED THAT BASELINE.
SO YOU HAD AN EIGHT 2018 SURVEY DONE? NO, NOT ON THE MARSH BASELINE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THE MARSH BASELINE.
OKAY. OKAY. I, I WOULD HAVE HAD THESE QUESTIONS PRIOR.
OH THAT'S FINE IF I HAD THIS POWERPOINT PRIOR.
YES. SO WE WILL BE MAKING ANOTHER PRESENTATION TO YOUR POINT, ON JUNE 25TH.
IT'S A OPEN STYLE FORMAT. SO IT'LL BE COMING IN COMMUNITY ASKING QUESTIONS.
BUT PLEASE, IF YOU THINK OF ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO GO AHEAD AND EMAIL US AND WE CAN GET RESPONSES READY AND PERHAPS COVER THOSE RESPONSES ON THE 25TH. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO, AT THIS POINT, HAND THIS OVER TO GABRIELLE GENEST, OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, WHO HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY ON THIS WITH JONES, EDMUNDS AND STEVE.
GOOD EVENING, GABRIELLE JONES, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
HAPPY TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION. SO STARTING WITH STATE STATUTE 380.093, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN EFFORTS TO STANDARDIZE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS ACROSS THE STATE.
ULTIMATELY, THE STATE IS GOING TO CREATE A STATEWIDE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.
SO IN ORDER TO GET GRANT FUNDING AND WE HAVE TO UPDATE TO MEET THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION GUIDELINES, WHICH ARE ESTABLISHED BY THIS STATUTE. SO TO RECAP WHAT AMANDA BEGAN PRESENTING IN 2019, WE DID OUR FIRST VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT.
IT ONLY APPLIED TO WHAT WAS WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.
SO IN 2021, WE EXPANDED UPON THAT TO OUR SERVICE AREA, WHICH GOES NORTH INTO THE MAYPORT AREA AND IDENTIFIED CRITICAL FACILITIES WITHIN THAT AREA, SUCH AS OUR LIFT STATIONS. THOSE WERE 100% GRANT FUNDED BY THE FLORIDA RESILIENT COASTLINE PROGRAM, WHICH IS TODAY THE FLORIDA THE RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR COLORS? 2044 2069 2019? WHAT IS THAT? SO WE DID DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SO WHEN YOU'RE DOING THESE KINDS OF STUDIES YOU PROJECT, YOU'RE LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE TO SEE WHAT YOUR FUTURE FLOODING RISKS ARE GOING TO BE.
SO AT THE TIME IT WAS A 25, 50 YEAR PROJECTION AND A 100 YEAR PROJECTIONS.
ADDITIONALLY, WE USE THE NOAA 2017 INTERMEDIATE HIGH SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTIONS.
SO TO IDENTIFY THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT WE PREVIOUSLY DONE AND OUR UPDATE TODAY.
THE PLANNING HORIZONS AND OUR OLD VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT IS THE 2044, 2069 AND 2119 TODAY.
UNDER THE NEW STATUTE, WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT TO BE 2050 AND THE 2080 PLANNING HORIZON.
SO THIS IS A 25 YEAR AND A 55 YEAR PROJECTION OUT.
AS I MENTIONED, WE USED IN THE PAST THE 2017 INTERMEDIATE HIGH NOAA SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTIONS.
WHY IS THAT? I BELIEVE IT'S BECAUSE THE INTERMEDIATE HIGH HAD MORE MORE FLOODING. AND IT'S RIGHT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT.
SO IN 2019 WE WERE LOOKING AT AN INTERMEDIATE HIGH.
AND THEN JUST WHAT SIX YEARS LATER WE'RE NOW LESSENING IT TO JUST LOOKING AT INTERMEDIATE LOW.
YEAH. AND I HAVE SOME MAPS COMING UP IN THE PRESENTATION TO SHOW THOSE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
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WE DID A CRITICAL ASSET INVENTORY, BUT THAT LIST HAS BEEN EXPANDED BY THE STATE.SO WE MADE SURE TO COMPILE ALL OF THE UPDATED CRITICAL ASSETS.
AND THEN IN 2019, THE AVAILABLE LIDAR IMAGERY WAS FROM 2007.
AND NOW THE STANDARD IS TO USE THE 2018 SO THAT THAT CAPTURED THE CAPTURES THE TIME PERIOD WHEN, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTRY CLUB WAS BUILT. A LOT OF THAT IMAGERY WASN'T AVAILABLE IN 2007 BEFORE THAT WAS BUILT OUT.
SO NOW WE'RE SEEING A MORE ACCURATE, IMPERVIOUS CALCULATIONS AND LAND COVER WITH THIS UPDATED LIDAR.
SO THE DATA COLLECTION IN OUR COMMUNITY ASSETS THE STATE IDENTIFIES THIS LIST OF CRITICAL ASSETS.
WE HAVE 33 THAT WE SERVICE MAJOR ROADWAYS, 83 PARKS.
WE HAVE 16 PARKS AND THEN SURFACE WATERS, WE HAVE ABOUT 38 PARCELS IS WHAT THEY COLLECTED.
AND THEN WETLANDS 109. SO THOSE ARE THE HIGHEST AMOUNTS OF CRITICAL ASSETS WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE SCATTERED IN AND ULTIMATELY WE OUR INVENTORY DOES INCLUDE 350 COMMUNITY ASSETS WITHIN OUR MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES AND OUR SERVICE AREA. SO IN ADDITION TO THE UPDATED DATA REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S SOME MORE IN DEPTH MAPPING REQUIREMENTS. MINTS INCLUDING THE SCENARIOS THE DIFFERENT MAPPING AREAS THAT WE HIT, SUCH AS THE NUISANCE FLOODING. SO YOU'RE SUNNY DAY FLOODING, THINGS THAT YOU SEE WHEN IT'S A NORMAL, NORMAL DAY OUTSIDE THE FLOODING THAT YOU EXPERIENCE STORM SURGE FLOODING AND THEN OUR RAINFALL INDUCED FLOODING.
IT'LL MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE. SO OUR SEA LEVEL PROJECT, SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTIONS FOR 2050.
THIS MAP SHOWS THE FIVE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT NOAA MAPS FOR.
SO THIS IS WHAT WAS THE DATA THAT'S COLLECTED AT THE MAYPORT GAUGE JUST NORTH OF THE CITY, WHICH WE USE FOR OUR DATA. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THIS IS THE 2050 PROJECTIONS.
SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. THIS IS THE RAINFALL INDUCED FLOODING FOR THE 100 YEAR 24 HOUR STORM EVENT.
AND THIS IS THE 2050 INTERMEDIATE USING THE INTERMEDIATE SEA LEVEL RISE CONDITIONS.
YES. BOTH OF YOU HAVE KIND OF AN OFF THE WALL QUESTION.
PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT FLOOD INSURANCE GOING UP.
I KNOW I'M PERSONALLY INVOLVED AS THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, THE STATE, ETC.
ETC. WHAT DO THEY USE AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, PROJECTED FLOODING.
SO THEY USE THE FEMA, FEMA'S PROJECTIONS WHICH IN TWO SLIDES YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A MODEL THAT THAT CLOSELY RELATES TO WHAT THE FEMA MAPS LOOK LIKE COMBINING OUR RAINFALL FLOODING AND OUR STORM SURGE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK AT. AND FEMA DOES THE STUDIES THEY UPDATED PERIODICALLY.
OUR LAST ONE WAS DONE IN 2018. SO WE EXPECT THEY SHOULD BE UPDATING IT IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF A BIGGER QUESTION, BUT IN MY OTHER JOB FEMA'S BUDGET IS BEING HAMMERED.
DO YOU GUYS AWARE THAT THEY POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, COULD PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS? I KNOW THERE'S A BIG QUESTION DON'T NEED TONIGHT.
THEY'RE FACING SOME SEVERE CUTS. AND ANYWAY. OKAY, YOU GUYS KNOW THAT.
OKAY, SO OUR FIRST MAP IS THE RAINFALL INDUCED FLOODING.
THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. THEN WE HAVE OUR STORM SURGE FLOODING.
THIS IS THE 100 YEAR STORM SURGE UNDER THE 2050 INTERMEDIATE SEA LEVEL RISE CONDITIONS.
AND THEN OUR NEXT MAP IS THAT COMBINED FLOODING SHOWING THE PROJECTED FLOOD DEPTHS.
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AND THIS IS WHAT CLOSELY RELATES TO THE FEMA MAPS.SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE PROJECTING OUT IN 2050 WHAT THE FEMA MAPS WILL LOOK LIKE.
AND THEN 2080. SO TO COMPARE OUR PREVIOUS STUDY VERSUS OUR UPDATED ONE AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER IN 2007, THE LIDAR LEADER DIDN'T REFLECT THE COUNTRY CLUB AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONE ON.
SO WE SEE THAT REFLECTED IN OUR UPDATED MAPPING.
THE THE 2044 INTERMEDIATE HIGH NOAA 2017 SEA LEVEL RISE PROJECTION.
SO THIS MAP REFLECTS THAT WHERE THE WHERE IT'S PINK.
A LITTLE BIT BEYOND THAT BLUE AREA WAS THE 2024 MODELING.
AND NOW UNDER THE BLUE WE'RE SEEING A SLIGHTLY REDUCED EXTENT OF THAT STORM SURGE PROJECTION.
SO THE PINK IS WHAT THE PINK IS. OUR OLD SO 2021 DATA.
BUT THEY'RE NOT. NO. THEY'RE NO LONGER IN DANGER. WITH THE REVISED SCENARIO.
SO WE USED THE INTERMEDIATE HIGH. NOW USING THE INTERMEDIATE WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT REDUCED.
SO IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, BUT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A REDUCTION IN THOSE NUMBERS OR AREA.
OKAY. SO ALSO WITH OUR GRANT FUNDING, WE COMPLETED THE MARSH BASELINE STUDY.
IT'S STILL BEING FINALIZED BY OUR CONSULTANTS.
BUT THE PURPOSE, AS AMANDA MENTIONED, IT'S TO MONITOR OUR OUR MARSH OVER TIME.
SO WE'RE WE'RE STARTING WITH OUR MARSH BASELINE STUDY.
AND WE'LL PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO TO MODEL OUR, OUR MARSH SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IMPACTS SEA LEVEL RISE IS HAVING ON THAT. SO USING CAN WE PAUSE HERE. SO SO YOU HAVEN'T STARTED IT YET.
NO. IT'S IT'S 99% DONE. WE JUST WENT BACK TO OUR CONSULTANTS AND ASKED THEM TO ADD A FEW MORE SPOTS THAT WERE MISSED THE FIRST GO AROUND. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? LIKE, I MEAN, HAVE THEY BEEN COMING OUT? SO THEY JUST LOOK AT LIKE THEY FLY A DRONE AND GET HIGH RESOLUTION IMAGERY WHERE THEY CAN IDENTIFY THESE DIFFERENT HABITATS THAT MAKE UP THE MARSH.
OKAY. SO THEY'RE PROVIDING US ALL OF THAT GIS DATA SO WE CAN HAVE IT IN OUR RECORDS.
SO WHEN WE FLY IT OUT, LET'S SAY IN ANOTHER FIVE TO HOWEVER LONG WE CHOOSE TO DO IT IN TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, WE CAN LAYER THEM OVER EACH OTHER AND SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
SO IT'S GOING TO GIVE US AN IDEA ON WHAT EROSION IS OCCURRING.
AND THEN FROM THAT NEXT DATA COLLECTION, WE CAN COME UP WITH PROJECTS TO MITIGATE THE EROSION.
AND THAT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT, WHICH WE CAN'T GET UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE SURVEY.
RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. AND I MEAN MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS THAT A NEIGHBOR OF MINE CAME IN AND PRESENTED ABOUT THE OYSTER REEFS.
SO THAT'S LIKE ONE THAT'S AN OPTION THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE LOOKING.
IN FACT, TROUT RIVER JUST IS IMPLEMENTING ONE THAT THEY WROTE THROUGH A GRANT WITH NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST ALONGSIDE UNF AND RIVERKEEPER, SAINT JOHNS RIVERKEEPER. SO THEY WERE PART OF THAT THAT I BELIEVE MIGHT HAVE MORE TO DO WITH POLLUTION IN THE WATER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF MARSHA'S OUR MARSH STUDY IS LOOKING AT THAT, BUT IS IT GOING TO LOOK AT LIVING SHORELINES LIKE RIPRAP AND A MIXTURE OF THAT CREATING SORT OF LIKE A BULKHEAD TO STOP THE EROSION? EROSION IS HAPPENING AT THE BEACH SIDE.
WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THE THE DREDGING THAT THEY DO TO RESTORE THERE, BUT NOTHING IS HAPPENING OVER THERE SO THAT NO RESTORATION PROJECTS. SO THIS IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO FIND THE GRANT OR APPLY FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT FOR PROJECTS LIKE THAT. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES.
SO THIS IMAGERY SHOWS THE DIFFERENT HABITATS THAT MAKE UP OUR MARSH.
SO ONCE WE GO BACK FOR ANOTHER DATA COLLECTION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPARE HOW MUCH OF THAT HABITAT IS LEFT, OR, LET'S SAY, REGAIN SOME. WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT DIFFERENCE.
QUESTION. MAYBE. YEAH, SURE. MAYBE BILL WILL BE A BETTER CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.
RIGHT. FOR US OBVIOUSLY ON BOTH SIDES. WHAT'S WHAT'S THEIR OUTLOOK ON THIS?
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I MEAN, ARE THEY AGGRESSIVELY FUNDING GRANTS OR OR TAKING A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN A VACUUM HERE.YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK TO OUR NORTH OR SOUTH. I MEAN, YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR.
WHAT ARE THEY DOING? SO THEY HAVE THEIR PROBLEM IS MUCH LARGER THAN OURS, RIGHT? IN THE SENSE OF YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF TRIBUTARIES AND SAINT JOHNS RIVER AS WELL AS THE INTRACOASTAL.
SO AND NEARLY ALL THE BULKHEADS IN THE CITY ARE PRIVATELY OWNED.
SO THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE PUBLICLY OWNED ARE THE ONES DOWNTOWN.
THEY WEREN'T THERE WHEN I LEFT. SO, YOU KNOW THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHOICES.
SO, LIKE THE OYSTERS, THOSE MAY BE THE RIGHT.
THEY'RE NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE TO PREVENT LIKE THE WEST BANK SHORELINE EROSION.
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING BECAUSE OF WAVE ACTION, BUT THEY MAY BE THE RIGHT ANSWER.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE AND YOU SEE THAT TRIBUTARIES GOING BACK TO THE WESTERN SHORE, WE DO HAVE SOME EVIDENCE THAT THOSE ARE GETTING WIDER.
AND THAT IS MOST LIKELY DUE TO WATER EROSION AND WAVE ACTION DUE TO BOATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT PREVENTING THOSE FROM GETTING EVEN WIDER. THAT MIGHT BE AN EXAMPLE WHERE, LIKE A PUTTING IN AN OYSTER BANK WOULD BE A PRODUCTIVE THE MARSH SYSTEM IN AND OF ITSELF IS A LIVING SHORELINE. IT'S WHAT PROTECTS US FROM FROM THE INTERCOASTAL WHEN THE WAVES AND WATER ACTION PICK UP.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS WE'RE NOT JUST SEEING AN AERIAL VIEW OF WHERE THE TRIBUTARIES ARE, BUT WE'RE SEEING THE ACTUAL ECOSYSTEM. SO WHAT TYPE OF PLANT MATERIALS ARE THERE? WE HAVE UNF DOING A STUDY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE MANGROVES COME BACK.
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE MANGROVES AND MANGROVES ARE VIABLE.
NOW. THAT MIGHT BE A REAL SHORELINE. LIVING SHORELINE THAT WOULD PROTECT AGAINST EROSION.
BUT THOSE THOSE ARE HIGHLY CLIMATE DEPENDENT.
BUT IF WE GET WARMER, THEN THEY WILL MIGRATE NORTH AGAIN.
YEAH. OKAY. THANKS. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT BILL, ABOUT THE MANGROVES? THEY FOUND MANGROVES IN ATLANTIC BEACH OR IN THIS AREA? IT'S A IT'S IN THIS AREA. UNEP IS DOING A STUDY.
OH, WOW. YEAH. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE MONITORING THEM RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ON OUR IT'S ACTUALLY ON. HOW DO THEY MIGRATE HERE? EXCUSE ME. THEY HAVE SEED PODS THAT ARE ABOUT THIS LONG THAT FLOAT.
AND SO THEY DROP AND THEN THEY FLOAT. AND DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THEY TAKE TO GROW? YEARS, RIGHT? BUT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY ARE MIGRATING NORTH AGAIN.
SO THERE WAS A TIME, MY UNDERSTANDING, IN WHICH MOST OF WHAT WE SEE AS SPARTINA TODAY WAS AT ONE TIME MANGROVE, AND THEN IT GOT TOO COLD FOR THEM. AND SO THEY THEY DIED BACK.
BUT APPARENTLY THE CLIMATE IS BECOMING CONDUCIVE TO IT.
AND THEY MIGRATED UP THROUGH SAINT JOHNS AND NOW THEY'RE BACK HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH.
THERE'S A LITTLE FOOTHOLD THAT UNF IS STUDYING.
SO THEY WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW QUICKLY IT REPOPULATES WHERE IT'S AT AND THE RATE OF GROWTH.
AND UNF IS STUDYING ON THEIR OWN, NOT BECAUSE WE ASKED THEM TO.
THEY CAME TO US AND ASKED BECAUSE IT WAS ON CITY PROPERTY.
SO THEY'RE NOT PLANTING THEM. THEY'RE NOT PLANTING THEM? NO. THEY'RE OBSERVING THE THE NATURAL. I DON'T WANT TO SAY REFORESTATION.
THAT SOUNDS WRONG ON WETLAND, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE NATURAL REGROWTH OF THEM.
TO HEAR THAT IT DOES WORK, BUT THANK YOU. SO AS A RESULT OF THE UPDATE TO OUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, WE'RE ALSO UPDATING THE ADAPTATION PLAN. AND THE REASON THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAN IS TO IDENTIFY THE GOALS AND STRATEGIES TO BEST MINIMIZE RISK AND ESTABLISH A PROCESS TO IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES. SO WE'RE USING THE UPDATED MODELING FROM THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE EXPOSURE AND THE
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SENSITIVITY IS OF OUR CRITICAL ASSETS. AND FROM THAT WE'RE EXPANDING ADAPTATION STRATEGIES WITHIN THE FOCUS AREAS OF THE ADAPTATION PLAN.SO WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT FOCUS AREAS. THE FIRST ONE IS CITYWIDE.
RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO PROPOSED ADDITIONAL ADAPTATION STRATEGIES.
THE NEXT ONE IS AREAS OF WEST OF MAYPORT ROAD.
THERE'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO PROPOSE RAISING ROAD SEGMENTS ABOVE THE PROJECTED FLOODING AND STORM SURGE TO PROTECT THAT AREA. GO AHEAD. SO I JUST HAVE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN ELSE I'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO, BUT PLAZA, WEST PLAZA THAT GOES, YOU KNOW, IN ONE OF THE PENINSULAS THAT YOU SAW IN THAT MAP, IT FLOODS ON A REGULAR RAIN. THE WHOLE ROAD DOES FLOOD.
SO THAT WOULD BE ONE. BUT I WAS CURIOUS, WHAT OTHER ROADS DID YOU LOOK AT? OR ARE WE GETTING THERE? THERE'S A TABLE IN THE VULNERABILITIES.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 88 OF YOUR PACKET THERE'S A LIST OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS WEST OF MAYPORT ROAD THAT WERE ADDED. IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE.
OH THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. I'LL LOOK AT THAT NOW.
THE NEXT FOCUS AREA ARE MAJOR DRAINAGE WAYS. AND THERE'S SOME PROPOSED BACKFLOW PREVENTION SYSTEMS AND STORMWATER PONDS ALONG HOPKINS CREEK AND SHERMAN CREEK. FOR OUR CRITICAL UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE FROM THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT, THERE WERE TEN LIFT STATIONS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH AND HIGHEST PRIORITY, READY TO BEGIN ADAPTATION EFFORTS. SO THAT IS INCLUDED AS WELL AS CRITICAL PUBLIC FACILITIES.
IT'S IDENTIFIED THAT CITY HALL, COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING ARE ALL HIGHLY VULNERABLE TO STORM SURGE AND RAINFALL INDUCED FLOODING. SO IT'S MARKED AS A PRIORITY TO BEGIN ADAPTATION.
SO COULD WE THROW THAT IN THERE OR NOT? ABSOLUTELY.
DO WE WANT THEM TO THROW THAT IN THERE AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS? WE'RE HARDENING IT. IT HAS BEEN HARDENED TO 140 MILE AN HOUR WIND STORM.
I THINK MAYBE THE BIGGER ISSUE IS WHAT'S THE ELEVATION RELATIVE TO THESE NUMBERS? I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS PURCHASING IT IN THE LATE AUBREY.
I'LL SEE IF SHE CAN FIND IT, BUT WHEN WE WERE APPROACHING HIS PURCHASING IT, I WENT TO THE NOVA SITE AND SLID THE SEA LEVEL RISE UP TO TEN FEET AND IT WAS DRY. NOW WE WOULD HAVE TO PUNCH A HOLE OUT TO MAYPORT ROAD BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET TO IT FROM THE BACKSIDE ANYMORE, BUT YOU COULD GET TO IT FROM MAPLEWOOD. THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WE'RE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED AS APPENDICES. AND I CAN SEND THOSE OUT BECAUSE THERE'S MORE DATA ABOUT THE RANKING, AND IT INCLUDES THE ELEVATION OF ALL OF OUR CRITICAL ASSETS.
SO THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD LANGUAGE IN THE ADAPTATION PLAN ABOUT THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE COMMISSIONER. SORRY. SO AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE, IF WE GET THE IMPLEMENTATION GRANT, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD PAY FOR THINGS LIKE RAISING THE ROADS.
EXACTLY. IT'S ONE WAY. YEAH. AND FOR EXAMPLE, ON PAGE 99 AND 98 THERE'S SOME ACTIONS THAT ARE LISTED IN OUR ADAPTATION PLAN, AND WE LIST NEAR NEAR TERM, MID TERM AND LONG TERM. SOMETHING LIKE CREATING THE RESILIENCY HUB AT THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER CAN BE IN ONE OF THOSE ADAPTATION STRATEGIES. SO NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROCESS, WE'RE STILL COMPLETING THE OUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN UPDATES COLLECTING INPUT.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC MEETING WILL BE ON JUNE 25TH.
IT IS A WORKSHOP TO SOLICIT FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
OUR CONSULTANT WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.
WE WILL BE BRINGING THIS TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL ON JULY 14TH.
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ONCE WE FINISH SOLICITING INPUT IN OUR UPDATES TO THE PLANS.SO I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR. OKAY, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
DO YOU KNOW IF OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH ARE.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'VE DONE THEIR MOST RECENT VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT? I DO NOT KNOW. OKAY. CAN WE FIND OUT? NEPTUNE IN JAX BEACH? SURE. BECAUSE WHAT I'D LOVE TO SEE IS WHERE WE HAVE LIKE, IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS, WHERE WE SHOWED THAT THE MAPS AND THE UPDATES.
I'D LOVE TO SEE THE CONTINUATION OF THOSE MAPS AND UPDATES, AT LEAST INTO NEPTUNE BEACH TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THE DATA, BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT. RIGHT? BUT IF THEY HAVE IT, I'D LOVE TO SEE IT.
YES. GO AHEAD. SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING ASKED BY THE STATE TO DO SOMETHING WITH TREATED WATER. HOW DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT WATER DO FOR US NOW IN TERMS OF HELPING US PUSH BACK SALT WATER? PUT IT INTO THE ASSUME WE'RE PUTTING IN JUST GOING UNDER ALL THE MARSH INTO A FIGHT AND INTERCOASTAL.
BUT AND THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, ETHANOL IN LOUISIANA, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE SOLUTION TO PUSH BACK SALTWATER IS TO SOMEHOW INTRODUCE FRESH WATER INTO THOSE AREAS TO HELP PROMOTE THE REGROWTH OF MARSH POSSIBLY COASTLINES NATIONALLY VALIDATED FOR THEIR SOLUTION. RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE AN OPTION OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR IF Y'ALL GET A FEEL FOR IT, DOES IT HELP US HURT US? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A. SENATE BILL 64 HAS US.
WE CAN'T DUMP IT INTO THE SURFACE WATERS OF THE INTRACOASTAL.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS SENATE BILL 64 PREVENTS US FROM DOING.
WHERE'S IT GOING? IT'S GOING INTO THE INTRACOASTAL.
IT GOES INTO PIPE FLOW. IT COMES KIND OF COMES DOWN LIKE GO IS THE PIPE IS WELL UNDER.
WELL, IT'S IT'S NOT A YOU MAY BE THINKING ABOUT DEEP WELL, IT'S NOT BEING DEEP.
WELL IT'S IT'S FLOWING KIND OF. IT CROSSES ATLANTIC BOULEVARD I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE AND KIND OF GOES NORTHWEST UNTIL IT GETS TO THE TIP OF THE PENINSULA AND THEN IT DUMPS INTO INTERCOASTAL.
BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE NUTRIENTS THAT ARE THAT ARE IN IT.
EVEN MEETING OUR TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD THAT THE STATE DOESN'T WANT IT IN SURFACE WATERS ANYMORE.
BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING AND WHAT WE'VE MADE OUR FIRST EFFORT TO DOING, BECAUSE THE COST OF DWELLING INJECTING IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IS WE'VE KIND OF DONE AN INITIAL LOOK AT USING IT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN OUR FRESHWATER WETLAND SYSTEMS. SO TO PUT THE WATER THERE, TO PUSH OUT THE SALTWATER INTRUSION INTO OUR FRESHWATER SYSTEMS, TO PROTECT THOSE ECOSYSTEMS AS WELL AS THOSE ECOSYSTEMS, WILL THEN FILTER THE WATER, IT WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE ITS WAY BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT, BUT IT WILL BE FILTERED BY THE VEGETATION THAT EXISTS IN THE FRESHWATER WETLAND SYSTEM.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT HAS TO BE COVERED IN THE FUTURE.
YEAH, IT WILL. IT WILL BE INLAND. I MEAN, WE HAVE A I THINK YOU SAID 109.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WE HAD THAT MANY WETLAND SYSTEMS. YEAH, WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE THAT WE HAVE A STRONG SUSPICION THAT THE PLANT SPECIES ARE DYING DUE TO SALTWATER INTRUSION.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS AN ARGUMENT TO EXPEL OUR TREATED WATER THERE.
PUSH BACK THE SALTWATER AND PROTECT FRESHWATER ECOSYSTEMS. SO NOTHING WE DO NOW HAS AN OPTION TO TREAT THAT WATER TO SO THAT IT WOULD BE MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE MARSH.
WE CAN BUT AGAIN, THAT THAT'S EXPENSIVE AND I DON'T MAYBE I THINK THE DEEP WELL IS PROBABLY LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE MECHANICAL TREATMENT, BECAUSE WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO REVERSE OSMOSIS ON ALL OF OUR WATER.
COMMISSIONER. SO JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE REASON BEHIND PART OF US LOSING THE THE EROSION OUR LAND AND THE MARSH SIDE AND UP AND DOWN THE SAINT JOHNS RIVERS. BECAUSE OF THE DREDGING THAT INITIALLY OCCURRED IN THE 80S AS THEY DREDGED OUT INTO THE INTRACOASTAL FOR JAXPORT.
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IT BROUGHT IN MORE SALT WATER, WHICH THEN KILLED OUR VEGETATION.AND WE KNOW THAT VEGETATION HOLDS THE LAND, IT HOLDS THE LAND.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO PHIL BEFORE.
WHY ISN'T JAXPORT HAVING TO PAY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE CREATED, EVEN IF IT WAS 40 YEARS AGO? WELL, I WOULD THAT'S A LEGAL QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
THROW THAT ONE OUT THERE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH. JUST MAYBE FOR AMANDA ALSO. SO WE GET ALL THIS GOOD DATA AT THE END OF THIS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE ALL BEEN THROUGH THIS WHEN THEY CLOSE THE BRIDGES, RIGHT? WE'RE AN ISLAND, SO I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, PUBLICIZE AND SHOW, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, THE VULNERABLE AREAS, RIGHT? BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, INTUITIVELY, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE I THINK THEY ARE, BUT YOU GUYS WILL HAVE THE DATA AFTER THIS.
I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I LIVE IN THIS SECTION OF TOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE BRIDGES OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DAY AWAY, YOU KNOW, ALERT, ALERT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HARD HEADED AND THEY WILL THEY WILL STAY THROUGH THESE. I SAW WHAT KATRINA DID AND I JUST I JUST MAKING AWARE WHEN YOU GET THIS DATA, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD ENCAPSULIZE IT SO THAT YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN GOES, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT IN A GREAT AREA WHEN YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S A DAY OUT OR WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT IN PLAIN ENGLISH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO DECIPHER.
JUST JUST A STATEMENT. THANKS, COMMISSIONER. GO AHEAD.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE MAY BE. OKAY.
THANK YOU ALL. GOOD LUCK. YEAH. I, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
I SAW IT SOMEWHERE HERE. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CDBG.
FOR WHAT AREA? NOW I CAN'T FIND IT. MAYBE IT WAS ON ONE OF THE SLIDES IN THE BEGINNING.
PARDON? OH, THERE IT IS. I'M SORRY. WHAT IS THAT FOR? FLORIDA CDBG MONEY OR WHAT AREA IS IT? 87. IT WAS FROM THE FLORIDA COMMERCE IS WHERE WE OBTAINED THAT GRANT FUNDING. SO THAT'S 87,000 IS WHAT I'M READING.
YES. SO THAT'S SAYING THE GRANT WE GOT. SO THE PROJECT IS 94% GRANT FUNDED.
OKAY, 87 K CAME FROM OKAY. NOW, NOW I GOT IT.
THANK YOU. SO THE 65 K, WHAT DID THAT DO THAT THAT CAME.
OKAY. ANOTHER ONE CAME FROM PHIPPS RESILIENT FLORIDA PLANNING GRANT.
OKAY. AND THOSE TWO GRANTS COMBINED PAID FOR THE PROJECT.
YEP. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. YES, COMMISSIONER.
OKAY, SO AFTER THAT 18 SLASH 19 SURVEY, WE CREATED THE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN TO PRIORITIZE.
YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE WHERE THE MOST HIGH, MOST VULNERABLE.
VULNERABLE SPACES WERE. AND AND THAT'S WHERE PRIMARILY STEVE CREATED THE COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DO THAT AGAIN AND UPDATE AND TAKE OFF THE ONES WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND PUT ON THE LATEST.
ABSOLUTELY. AND SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS MAY NOT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY QUALIFY FOR THE OTHER GRANTS, BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE YOU GUYS ON THE PRIOR ONE USED INTERMEDIATE HIGH, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO THERE MAY BE THERE MAY BE PROJECTS THAT SHOW UP THAT ARE EXCEEDING THE CRITERIA.
BUT THIS THIS ARE YOU GOING THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SCRATCH THEM OFF.
IT JUST MEANS THEY MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE FUNDING.
AND I, I THINK WE THREW SOME OTHER DREAM STUFF IN THERE, TOO, BESIDES, YOU KNOW, SOME RECREATION STUFF AND SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER THING. SO. BUT WE'LL NEED TO UPDATE IT.
OKAY. YES. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PURPLE PART? IT'S LIKE WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING THE THE ROADS.
I THINK THOSE WERE LIKE IMPLEMENTATION IDEAS OF PROJECTS.
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YEAH. RIGHT THERE. AND PROPOSED UPDATES. SO I DID NOT.MOST OF THESE ARE WHAT TO DO WHEN IT FLOODS. I DON'T SEE WHAT TO DO TO STOP THE EROSION.
SO THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT ADAPTATION STRATEGIES.
ONE IS TO PREVENT, ONE IS TO RAISE THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF DEFINED IN OUR ADAPTATION PLAN, THE WAYS YOU CAN APPROACH DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. SO FOR EXAMPLE THE BACKFLOW PREVENTION AND THE STORMWATER PONDS, THAT'S A WAY TO, CHOOSE TO COLLECT YOUR WATER AND HAVE YOUR WATER FLOW BETTER.
RAISING THE ROAD IS ANOTHER WAY. I MEAN, THESE ARE GREAT WHEN IT'S FLOODING.
I'M JUST SAYING. WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO STOP THE EROSION? I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL FOR STOPPING THE EROSION FROM HAPPENING? THEY DID THAT COME OUT OF THE STUDY AT ALL? AGAIN, BLACK BACKFLOW PREVENTION SYSTEMS CAN ENCOURAGE THAT BETWEEN YOU AND BILL.
RIGHT. BETWEEN YOU AND BILL, YOU ADDRESSED EXAMPLE IS THE MANGROVES.
WE DON'T COMMISSIONER. WE DON'T HAVE A LONG TERM MARSH SIDE EROSION CONTROL PLAN THAT YET.
AND WE CAN SEE THAT THE TRIBUTARIES THAT ARE COMING INTO THE SHORELINE ARE GETTING WIDER.
SO LIKE MY I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT. WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT BULKHEADS? BULKHEADS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. THEY THEY DO SOLVE THE PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY, BUT NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD ONE.
HAVE NOT YOU KNOW THAT? OR HOW ABOUT THIS? HOW ABOUT GO TO DUTTON ISLAND AND LOOK ACROSS THE WAY TO QUEEN'S HARBOR? YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT WORRIED. RAISING ALL OF THE ROADS.
IT'S GREAT. I LOVE THIS IDEA, BUT THAT DOES NOT STOP THE WATER FROM COMING.
AND WE CAN ASK OUR CONSULTANTS IF SOMETHING LIKE A BULKHEAD IS SUITABLE FOR THIS AREA.
YEAH, BUT CAN I MAKE A. I THINK THIS IS OBVIOUS, BUT MAYBE NOT.
IS A BULKHEAD WITHOUT BACKFILL TO RAISE, THE ELEVATION OF THE LAND IS OF LITTLE HELP.
UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A BULKHEAD LIKE A DIKE AROUND THE ENTIRE ISLAND.
OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP FLOODING IF SEA LEVEL RISE CONTINUES, THE WATER IS GOING TO COME IN FROM THE SIDE, THE REAR SOMEWHERE. SO SO TO THE POINT ABOUT RAISING THE STREETS, THAT IS FOR SAFETY.
THAT'S FOR EVACUATION AND ACCESS AND EMERGENCY AND SO ON.
BUT THE OTHER THING, AND I KNOW IT CAME UP RECENTLY WHEN WHEN WE RESOLVED THE CONFLICT IN THE CODE ON THE 2.5FT OR FIVE FEET ABOVE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. IF YOU RAISE HOUSES UP, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MORE RESILIENT AGAINST FLOODING.
YEAH. AND SOMETHING CAME IN OUR WATER BILL AND I ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR IT TO FEMA.
BUT NOW I HEAR WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLE WAS MENTIONING ABOUT FAMOUS.
AND I PERSONALLY APPLIED FOR THAT. BUT GOOD COMMISSIONER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH MARSH, YOU'VE LOST OVER THE COURSE OF TIME? NO, WE HAVE NO FEEL FOR THAT AT ALL.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE STUDY, IS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE STARTING TODAY? YEAH. AND WE'RE RIGHT. IN 50 YEARS, WE'LL GIVE YOU AN ANSWER ON THIS.
IF YOU HANG AROUND MAYBE FIVE. OKAY. FIVE. HANG AROUND.
WOULD YOU FIND THAT DRONES ARE USEFUL IN IN SURVEYING? YES, THEY'RE VERY USEFUL. THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY WITH DRONES.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE GOT OUR MARSH BASELINE DATA.
OKAY. THANK YOU. QUESTIONS? THANKS. THANK YOU.
DID WE HAVE. OH. ARE WE. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
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YEAH. OKAY. ONE CARD. SARAH BOREN.[00:45:07]
GOOD EVENING. SARAH. I LIVE ON EIGHTH STREET IN OLD ATLANTIC BEACH.I WANTED TO PRESENT TWO MOTIONS FROM ESC. AND THEN TAKE OFF MY ESC HAT AND PUT ON MY PERSONAL HAT.
SO THE FIRST. SO ESC MET LAST WEDNESDAY AND MADE TWO MOTIONS.
ONE TO PASS ON TO YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER. THE FIRST ONE IS ESC RECOMMENDS THAT THE MASTER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN BE INTEGRATED INTO THE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT AND ADAPTATION PLAN.
AND THIS WAS YOU KNOW, BASED I THINK WE THOUGHT THAT MORE ROBUST DATA WILL LEAD TO MORE INFORMED DECISIONS AND HELP WITH PRIORITIES AND HELP THE CITY OPERATIONALLY. AND IT WILL HOPEFULLY SHED LIGHT ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT GOING ZONE BY ZONE.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. THAT WAS SIX ZERO. WE HAD THREE MEMBERS THAT WERE ABSENT ON TRAVEL.
AND THEN MOTION NUMBER TWO, ESC RECOMMENDS WAITING THAT THE COMMISSION WAITS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE MASTER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN BEFORE CHANGING CHAPTER 24 AND REMOVING THE 400FT TRIGGER FOR ON SITE RETENTION IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THAT PASSED 5 TO 1. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IT'S AN IMPERFECT TOOL.
IT'S NOT A GREAT TOOL, BUT IT'S WITH KIND OF.
I WOULD SAY THERE'S MORE EDUCATION NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THROWS UP THE SWALES, BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY OTHER OPTIONS TO USE.
IT'S JUST SWALES ARE THE CHEAPEST. SO AND, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT WE KIND OF JUST NEED ALL THE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE BEFORE WE START ELIMINATING THEM. PLUS IT, YOU KNOW, STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, ALSO WANTS TO LEAVE THIS TRIGGER IN UNTIL THEY GET MORE DATA. SO I'M TAKING OFF MY HAT AND PUTTING ON MY HAT.
AND TO KIND OF ADD TO THAT ARGUMENT I WENT BACK TO THE EDMUNDS JONES EDMUNDS STUDY IN 2018, THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN. AND IT SAYS IN THERE THAT WHEN THEY KIND OF.
ESTIMATED FOR 2030 TO 2045, THE 2030 DATA, WHICH IS FIVE YEARS AWAY, ADDED 12 ACRES OF IMPERVIOUSNESS IN THIS LEFT BASICALLY EAST OF SEMINOLE.
THAT'S A LOT. AND IT BASED ON ADDITIONAL CONCERN.
SO THEY THEY BASICALLY FORECASTED CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION, REBUILDS, REDEVELOPMENT.
YES. OKAY. YEAH. SO AGAIN, THAT'S YOU KNOW, WE NEED WE NEED UPDATED DATA TO MAKE YOU KNOW, KIND OF INFORMED DECISIONS AND MORE NUANCED AND GRANULAR DECISIONS.
I DID JUST EMAIL YOU ALL THE POWERPOINT AND RECORDING OF AN AB RESIDENT.
THAT AND A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON WETLANDS AND MARSH WHO CAME TO OUR SPEAKER SERIES, WHO WAS OUR SPEAKER, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR THE MARSH.
AND HE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT WANTING TO BE ON RECORD, KIND OF KIND OF SAID IT'S GOING TO TAKE A COMBINATION OF A FEW DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE SILVER BULLET. SO I RECOMMEND YOU GUYS LISTENING AND LOOKING AT THAT.
AND THEN I WANTED TO SHARE KIND OF JUST OUR SUGGESTION THAT WE KIND OF CROSSWALK.
AND SO JUST KEEPING AN EYE ON ALL THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND INTEGRATING IT INTO WHAT WE HAVE.
I WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT COMMISSIONER KELLY SAID.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A CIP SIP BEFORE THIS FIRST STUDY, AND IT HAS REALLY GOTTEN US FOCUSED AND HELPFUL.
AND IT'S LED TO GREAT, I THINK, VERY ASTUTE PURCHASES TO GET OUT AHEAD OF WHAT'S COMING.
AND I KNOW MY TIME IS ALMOST UP, SO I'M GOING TO SAY I'M FROM CALIFORNIA IN SANTA MONICA AREA, AND SANTA MONICA ACTUALLY SENT ALL THEIR WATER TO BE TREATED BEFORE IT WENT OUT INTO THE BAY.
AND IT WAS MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO THERE'S THAT DATA POINT.
AND THEN FINALLY A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY, BUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE UP THERE WAS LIKE THE CITY'S ROLE IN A CITY'S FACILITY. AND YOU KNOW, SC THINKS ABOUT THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
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SO JUST TO DROP A SEED YOU KNOW, A VOLUNTARY GREEN BUILDING AND RESILIENCE ORDINANCE TO START GETTING OUR BUILDING STOCK UP TO DATE TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE IN 20 TO 25 YEARS. THAT'S IT.THANK YOU. SARAH. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? OKAY. FINAL QUESTIONS.
CONVERSATION. SO WE HAVE TWO MORE OF THESE REVIEWS.
OKAY. WE HAVE BOTH DATES OR. NO. AMANDA ASKEW, THE MEETING ON THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH IS OPEN TO EVERYONE. SO IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING, SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO COME TO THAT.
AND THEN THIS WILL BE BROUGHT BEFORE COMMISSION ON JULY 14TH.
GOT IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS.
THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED. SABLAN COMMISSIONER.
GOOD TIMING. WE GOT NINE MINUTES. WE GOT NINE MINUTES? YEAH. FOR YOUR DATE.
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