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TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. OKAY. THIS BUDGET WORKSHOP DATED MONDAY, JUNE 23RD, 2025 FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

[1. PUBLIC COMMENT]

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AND WE'LL OPEN UP OUR MEETING TODAY WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO WHO DO WE HAVE TO SPEAK? WHAT? SPEAKER. MAYOR.

OKAY. IT'S MITCH REEVES. MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS.

I JUST WANT TO COVER A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WAS LOOKING.

I WAS REVIEWING THE WORKSHOP BUDGET TONIGHT, AND I KNOW YOU HAD ANOTHER BUDGET.

I WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE. ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THAT I THINK WOULD BE NICE FOR NOT JUST THE CITIZENS OF ATLANTIC BEACH, BUT EACH OF YOU, TOO. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS A BUDGET THAT SHOWS EVERYTHING IN THEIR ESTIMATES AND STUFF THAT'S BEEN GIVEN TO YOU.

I MIGHT BE WRONG ON THAT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO ME IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR EACH OF YOU AS YOU HAVE EACH OF THESE WORKSHOPS, AND IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON A LITTLE BIT IS YOU HAVE GREAT SLIDES LIKE, LET'S JUST TAKE PLANNING AND LET'S TAKE PLANNING, ZONING, RESOURCES ALLOCATIONS.

YOU HAVE TWO COLUMNS, THREE COLUMNS, REALLY. YOU HAVE 2025 AND THEN YOU'RE ASKED AND THEN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR 2026, WHICH IS NOT THERE. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE PAST.

OR IT WAS WHEN I WAS MAYOR WAS THERE WAS TWO OTHER COLUMNS THAT SAID WHAT THE ACTUAL ESTIMATED ACTUAL FOR THIS YEAR, 2520, I MEAN, 24-25 AND WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS FOR 25-26.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IT MAKES YOU EACH OF THESE WORKSHOPS MUCH EASIER TO KIND OF REFRESH YOUR MEMORY AGAIN.

SO YOU LOOK AT THAT AND GO, OKAY. PLANNING AND ZONING RESOURCES ALLOCATION.

IT SHOWS A 22.52% INCREASE. IT'D BE NICE IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT SAME PRESENTATION AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

JUST A RECOMMENDATION. THINK IT MAKES IT, IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND I THINK IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT AND EASIER FOR YOU BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY TO FOLLOW THE BUDGET.

THE OTHER THING THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL WORK THROUGH THIS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, IS MY LAST COMMENT. I'LL BE REAL QUICK IS I AM CONCERNED THAT THERE'S A COUPLE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TWO ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS, UTILITIES, AND WE HAVE ONE UNDER I THINK IT'S PLANNING OR ONE OR THE OTHER, THE ENTERPRISE ACCOUNTS. AND YOU CANNOT USE ENTERPRISE MONEY.

YOU CANNOT MOVE ENTERPRISE MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND TO BE USED.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COMMISSION CAN'T BORROW MONEY FROM THE ENTERPRISE AND THEN PAY IT BACK WITHIN THAT YEAR.

YOU CAN'T USE THAT MONEY TO DO YOUR BUDGET. WHAT? I'M THE REAL THING I'M LOOKING AT, AND I COULD BE READING IT WRONG.

IS THIS THE FIRST TIME THAT I RECALL THAT ANY BUDGET HAS COME FORWARD? THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY A POSSIBILITY BASED ON ALL THE NEW HIRES? I GUESS WE DID, OR THE NEW DEPARTMENT OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE ACTUALLY MAYBE MOVING SOME GENERAL FUND MONEY INTO AN ENTERPRISE, MONEY TO SUPPORT IT, TO MAKE IT SURVIVE. WELL, WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE BECAUSE WE'VE DONE REALLY WELL MANAGING THE ENTERPRISE MONEY BECAUSE IT'S MONEY COMING IN. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN.

THIS IS NOT EASY TO DO A BUDGET. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THINGS YOU GUYS CAN CONTROL IN HERE.

IT'S JUST OUT OF YOUR CONTROL ON SOME OF THEM. I GET THAT, BUT I JUST THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TRANSPARENT AND EASIER FOR US.

LAYMAN OUT IN THE FIELD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE.

AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MAYOR REEVES.

OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE'S NOBODY ELSE, AND WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO TOPICS.

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ITEM TWO, A BUDGET WORKSHOP. NUMBER TWO PRESENTATION.

WHOEVER'S PRESENTING. I WILL START. OKAY.

WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT. WHETHER WE FINISH EXACTLY ON TIME, EARLY OR LATE, WE'LL TAKE A 5 TO 10 MINUTE RECESS.

SO EVERYBODY IS READY FOR THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF TO 2.5 HOURS.

OKAY. I LIKE THE FIRST NUMBER BETTER THAN THE SECOND.

GIVE A RANGE. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

DONNA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COMMISSION. THIS IS THE SECOND WORKSHOP.

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WE'RE GOING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY. AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE REVENUE NUMBERS YET.

AND THEN ON THE FIRST PRESENTATION, WHAT WE SHOWED WAS THE OPERATING EXPENSES COMPARED TO LAST YEAR'S REVENUE AND EXPENSES.

AND AT THAT TIME, RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDER. AND SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.

I DON'T EXPECT WE'LL STAY UNDER BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ENHANCEMENT REQUESTS.

AND AT SOME POINT YOU WILL MOVE SOME OF THAT INTO THE BUDGET.

BUT AS WE GO FORWARD, THE AGENDA. SO TONIGHT IS NEIGHBORHOODS.

ON JULY 14TH, WE WILL DO PUBLIC WORKS. AND THEN ON JULY 28TH PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THEN ON AUGUST 11TH, PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND THEN THE 25TH.

WE WILL DO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT THAT'S WHEN WE'LL RECONCILE THE ENHANCEMENTS WITH THE REVENUES.

WE'LL HAVE GOOD REVENUE NUMBERS BY THEN. IF WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO YOU ASKED SOME QUESTIONS LAST TIME. ONE OF THEM WAS ABOUT THE REPLACING THE KVM WITH THE KVM.

IT IS A KEYBOARD. VIDEO MONITORS. THEY'RE IN OUR SERVER ROOM UPSTAIRS, AND IT'S ONE MONITOR KEYBOARD COMBINATION THAT CAN PLUG INTO ALL FOUR SERVERS WE HAVE AND MONITOR ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME.

THE SEPTIC TO SEWER THE HOMES. THAT'S PHASE ONE.

RIGHT NOW, THE LEGISLATURE HAS APPROPRIATED THE FUNDS.

WE'RE WAITING TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO LET THEM GO THROUGH.

SO THAT'S PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO IS ALSO. WHICH IS NOT IT'S IN YEAR 27 FOR OUR CIP IS AN ADDITIONAL $375,000. IF YOU ASK WHAT IT COSTS TO HOOK UP, IT'S VARIABLE BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE METER IS AND WHERE THE HOUSE IS. RIGHT. AND SO IT'S A, IT'S VARIABLE DEPENDING UPON A NUMBER OF FACTORS.

SO I COULDN'T GET AN ANSWER ON THAT. IT JUST, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE ALIGNMENT OF WHERE OUR FACILITIES ARE IN THE HOUSE. WHAT'S A GUESSTIMATE? WE HAVE A GUESSTIMATE.

REALLY. WE DIDN'T GET A GUESSTIMATE AT ALL. YEAH I MEAN I CAN PUSH IS IT $6,000, $20,000, 30,000. I MEAN, YEAH, IF I HAD TO JUST GUESS AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THE GUESS, IT'S PROBABLY AROUND $1,500, BUT I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET AN AVERAGE FOR YOU.

THAT'D BE GREAT. BUT SORRY. MAY I ASK A QUESTION OVER THERE? WOULD THAT BE THE COST TO THE CITIZEN? TO THE HOMEOWNER? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THAT'S THE HOOKUP FEE.

THAT WOULD BE NOT. NOT THE FEE TO THE FOR PLACING THE PUMP.

YEAH. SO WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN BIG SEWER PIPES.

WE CAN'T DO A GRAVITY FEED SYSTEM HERE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE TO DO A PUMP SYSTEM.

SO IT WOULD BE EACH HOUSE WOULD HAVE A SMALL PUMP THAT WOULD PUMP THE SEWER TO A LOCATION THAT COULD BE GRAVITY FED.

AND WOULD YOU PUT, LIKE, A REQUIREMENT OR A DEADLINE TO THAT HOMEOWNER TO MAKE THAT PAY THAT TO PAY THAT AMOUNT IN ORDER TO HOOK UP? A LOT OF I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT YET, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GET THE APPROPRIATION. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES DO. SOME OF THEM MAY AMORTIZE THE COST IF WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO HOOK UP TO AMORTIZE THE COST OVER TIME, AND IT JUST SHOWS UP IN THEIR BILL. OKAY. THAT'S PROBABLY THE LOWEST, CHEAPEST, NOT CHEAPEST, BUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE LEAST IMPACTFUL WAY TO DO IT, RIGHT? BUT YEAH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT YET. I KNOW THE STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY IS JUST TO HAVE THEM PAY WHEN WE DO IT, BUT I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT WE AMORTIZE IT OVER SOME PERIOD OF TIME, WHETHER IT'S 24 MONTHS OR WHATEVER, AND JUST INCLUDED IN THEIR WATER SEWER BILL. DID YOU MENTION THAT THE 14 HOMES WERE INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ARE IN JACKSONVILLE SIDE? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WERE SOME. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THE CAT STEER, THAT'S A REPLACEMENT THAT HAS MULTIPLE TIERS.

SOMEBODY ASKED WHETHER IT WAS A REPLACEMENT. IT IS A REPLACEMENT.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS LEAN LETTER REVENUES, $4,700.

I THINK THAT INCLUDES SOMETHING ELSE AS WELL.

BUT IT'S THAT FUND COLLECTS $4,700 ANNUALLY IN REVENUE.

AVENUE, THE TOWN CENTER MAINTENANCE IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

DONNA. SO WE HAVE 65,000. THIS BASICALLY COMES FROM THE PARKING THAT IS GENERATED THROUGH THE TOWN CENTER.

IT'S WHAT PAYS FOR THIS. SO 75 AND HOLIDAY LIGHTING 23,000 IN PALM TREE TRIMMING, 5600 IN REPLACING DAMAGED TREES,

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2500. AND BRICK AND CONCRETE REPAIRS 5000 IN STRIPING 8000 IN UTILITY WORK AND 3000 IN IRRIGATION REPAIRS AND $600 SET ASIDE FOR ELECTRIC. YOU WILL SEE IN THE ENHANCEMENTS WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC WORKS IS TO REPLACE THE LIGHTS, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET THERE. OKAY. IF WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO YOU ASKED ALSO JUST A SPREADSHEET OF THE GRANTS.

SO THE WAY GRANTS WORK IS WE DON'T THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T. WE KNOW WHAT PROGRAMS ARE OUT THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE FUNDED OR NOT UNTIL WE GET A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY. AND WHEN WE GET THAT NOTICE, THAT'S WHEN WE START THE GRANT PROCEDURE.

SO THESE ARE THE GRANTS THAT WE'RE PURSUING RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE ISSUED A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A I CAN GET STEVE HERE IF YOU WANT TO GO TO SPECIFIC ONES, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES WE'RE CURRENTLY PURSUING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE'LL GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

NEIGHBORHOODS CONSISTS OF PLANNING, BUILDING CULTURAL ARTS AND REC AND THEN PARK MAINTENANCE.

IT'S A DEPARTMENT THAT STRIVES TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH OUR RESIDENTS, THROUGH SAFE, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES AND THROUGH ACTIVE PARKS.

WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO TOTAL EXPENDITURES BY A DIVISION.

WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS PLANNING AND ZONING AS A 22% INCREASE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS. A LOT OF THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IS A FUNCTION OF THE REORGANIZATION.

IT'S NOT A CHANGE IN TOTAL DOLLARS, BUT IT'S A CHANGE IN WHERE THOSE DOLLARS RESIDE.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT BUILDING A CODE IS A 643 THIS CURRENT YEAR, AND THEN 670 IS THE PROPOSED. CULTURAL ARTS IS 531,000. AND THEN CURRENT PROPOSED IS 617 785. AND THEN PARKS MAINTENANCE. THIS IS A BIG ONE.

BUT THIS IS AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE MONEY IS BEING MOVED.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEW MONEY. IT'S 1.4 MILLION BASICALLY TO $2.2 MILLION.

CAN YOU BREAK ANY OF THAT DOWN. I WILL. WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE DIVISIONS.

SO I'M PLANNING PERSONNEL SERVICES, SO SALARIES AND ALL OF THAT, IT WAS A 15% DROP.

SO PART OF THAT IS WE'RE COST ALLOCATING OUT AMANDA'S SALARY TO RECREATION AND PARKS TO PRO RATA SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTORS PAID THROUGH ALL THE DIVISIONS THAT WORKED FOR HER.

SO THE ONLY ENTERPRISE FUND THAT IS WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS IS A BUILDING AND ZONING, AND IT'S USED STRICTLY TO FUND BUILDING AND ZONING.

SO WE DO COST ALLOCATE SOME SALARIES OUT OF IT FOR SUPERVISION RESPONSIBILITIES.

BUT EVERYTHING IS GOES STRAIGHT TO BUILDING AND ZONING.

SO THE COMMISSION WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL SERVICES AND I KNOW THERE'S REORGANIZATION, WE HAD THE EVENTS EVENT'S COORDINATOR ADDED. BUT WE DID LOSE OUR RECREATION DIRECTOR.

YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, THOSE NUANCES.

HOW MANY POSITIONS DO WE HAVE THAT WERE ADDED AND THEN HOW MANY? ARE WE LOOKING TO ADD? AND THIS BUDGET, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ADDING ANY.

NO OKAY. SO AND THOSE OTHER DIVISIONS WE'LL GET TO.

OH JUST A MINUTE. I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT PLANNING ZONING RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S WHAT THESE NUMBERS ARE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING AND ZONING THERE WEREN'T ANY NEW PERSONNEL SERVICES. BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE.

BUT WE DID LOSE BRIAN. RIGHT. BUT SO WE REPLACED BRIAN WITH ABIGAIL, WHO DID THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT, AND THEN WE FILLED HER VACANCY WITH A NEW PLANNER TO THE CITY.

HIS NAME IS KEVIN. OKAY. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HIM.

KEVIN. YEAH. WE NEED ANOTHER KEVIN. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HIM.

SO IF YOU'VE SEEN A GUY WATERING THE RAISED BEDS OVER HERE IN THE AFTERNOON.

HE'S PLANTED SOME WATERMELON AND SOME OTHER THINGS OVER THERE.

SO YOU PUT HIM IN CHARGE OF THE RAISED GARDEN BED? I THINK HE VOLUNTEERED FOR THAT. SO IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL SERVICES, IT WENT DOWN LARGELY BECAUSE WE'RE COST ALLOCATING OUT SOME OF THE SALARIES TO THE TO BUILDING REC AND TO PARKS MAINTENANCE.

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YOU'LL SEE A INCREASE IN OPERATING EXPENSES. WHAT THAT IS ALMOST IN ITS ENTIRETY IS A $200,000 GRANT MATCH THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. SO, REMEMBER, YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED A RESOLUTION FOR VISION ZERO, WHICH MADE US ELIGIBLE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS TO IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

CITIES OUR SIZE. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ROUGHLY GETTING $1 MILLION.

IT REQUIRES A 20% MATCH. SO WE'RE PUTTING $200,000 AND TO MATCH THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT BIG INCREASE THERE.

IT TOOK THE TOTAL GRANT IS HOW MUCH? 1 MILLION IF WE GET IT.

SO WITH A 20% MATCH. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THE INCREASE OF $200,000 THERE IS TO MATCH FOR THAT GRANT.

AND THEN WE HAD SOME INCREASES TO PRINTING AND PUBLISHING AND MEMBERSHIPS, GASOLINE AND THE DECREASE IN COMPUTERS.

SO BUILDING CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL SERVICES ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME.

IT'S A 3% INCREASE. WE HAVE ADDED A BUILDING OFFICIAL.

AND THAT IS SO. WE ADDED HIM. WE TENTATIVELY HAVE A UNIVERSAL.

WE HAVE UNIVERSAL IN THE BUDGET. AND THEN WE WILL WORK THROUGH WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO USE THEM AS WE GO THROUGH.

I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT BETWEEN JOSH AS OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE ABILITY TO USE PART TIME, WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE PART TIME PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO PART TIME.

THEY'RE LICENSED BUILDING INSPECTORS. WE THINK WE CAN HANDLE THE WORKLOAD, BUT WE DO NEED TO COVER JUST IN CASE.

SO WE HAVE UNIVERSAL, THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT WENT UP $20,000. THAT IS BASICALLY, IT'S A SOFTWARE.

I THINK THAT'S ADOBE LICENSES. THEY WERE UNDER BUDGETED, SO THEY WERE $20,000 UNDER BUDGETED.

SO WE'RE JUST MAKING THE BUDGET REFLECT THE ACTUAL COST.

AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A DECREASE IN CAPITAL OUTLAY.

THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A DECREASE IN COMPUTER EQUIPMENT THAT WAS ISSUED.

BUT THE OVERALL EXPENSES, THE CHANGE WAS 4%. OKAY.

IF WE GO TO CULTURAL ARTS AND RECREATION, I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE PICKED UP AN EVENTS COORDINATOR THERE. JORDAN, I'VE BEEN HEARING A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS FROM OUR PROGRAM SINCE HE STARTED. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S GONE UP ABOUT 15%.

$41,000. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAD A PART TIME ASSISTANT.

WE'RE CONVERTING THEM TO FULL TIME. AND YOU'LL SEE.

THE OPPOSITE HERE. SO WHILE WE DECREASE PLANNING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALL OF THE DIRECTORS, TIME IS SPENT IN PLANNING.

SO SOME OF IT'S NOW SPENT HERE. WE INCREASED THE ALLOCATION TO THE DIRECTOR FROM A RISK DIVISION.

YOU ALSO SEE THAT OUR OPERATING EXPENSES WENT UP $50,000.

STAFF WAS PROGRAMED $50,000 FOR CENTENNIAL CELEBRATIONS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. AND THEN EIGHT OTHER AGENCIES IS THE SAME.

THAT'S THE $75,000 THAT MARK MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON.

AND THEN COMMISSION GRANTS THAT THEY GET DIRECTLY.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY THE 81 IF IT'S 75, PARK MAKES A RECOMMENDATION ON 75.

I THINK THERE'S SOME DIRECT GRANTS THAT THE COMMISSION THEN ISSUES.

ONE SECOND. CAN YOU REMEMBER WHAT THOSE DIRECT GRANTS WERE THIS YEAR THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF OUR GRANTS? YEAH. HI. KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

ACTUALLY, THAT OTHER 6000, IT GOES TO ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? YES. SO. I SHOULD KNOW THIS, BUT HAVE WE BEEN RUNNING THAT SEPARATE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT? WELL, NO, WE SKIPPED A YEAR, DIDN'T WE? I SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED MORE.

THAT'S NOT FOR GRANT. THAT'S FOR LANDSCAPING.

OH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S NOT A GRANT.

IN OTHER YEARS, WE'VE GIVEN IT SPECIFICALLY UNDER ELLEN.

WE GAVE MONEY TO DIAL A RIDE, AND WE GAVE MONEY TOWARD COLD NIGHT SHELTERS.

YES. I RECALL THAT'S ELSEWHERE IN YOUR BUDGET.

IF IT'S IN THE BUDGET. NOT NOT. NOT. THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR IN THE COMMISSION BUDGET ITSELF.

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OKAY. YES. SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PERSONNEL SERVICES HERE IN THE CULTURAL ARTS? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS JUST VERONICA. AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S JUST SO MANY CHANGES IN THE REORGANIZATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU TAKING ONE LIKE PETER FROM PETER? PUT IN PAUL SO YOU CAN PUT IN MORE? I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF THOSE.

SO WE TOOK THAT POSITION AND KIND OF BUSTED IT INTO A POSITION AND A HALF.

OKAY, SO THAT CREATED JORDAN'S POSITION. AND AND WHAT IS HIS POSITION? TITLE EVENT COORDINATOR? I THINK IT'S A YEAH, THE EXACT TITLE.

IT'S RECREATION MANAGER. RECREATION MANAGER. KEVIN MAY HAVE SOMETHING FOR RECREATION MANAGER.

AND THEN YOU. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT VERONICA'S POSITION? IS THAT A PART TIME POSITION? NOW VERONICA'S POSITION IS A FULL TIME POSITION.

THAT POSITION HASN'T CHANGED. WE HAD A PART TIME WORKING WITH HER.

WE CHANGED THAT TO A FULL TIME POSITION. OKAY, SO NOW THERE'S TWO.

NOW THERE'S THREE PEOPLE, THREE FULL TIME. BEFORE THERE WAS TWO AND A HALF FULL TIME.

NOW THERE'S THREE FULL TIME. COMMISSIONER. YEAH.

SO WHEN ARK PRESENTED TO US LAST, THEY MENTIONED THAT ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY HAD BEEN RECEIVING A $10,000 GRANT, BUT THEY HAVE NOT QUALIFIED FOR IT. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR IT WAS LAST YEAR OR WHATNOT.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH LIKE, RECTIFYING THAT OR I DID I DID INVESTIGATE SOME THINGS AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, THE DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD DOES MAKE IT CUMBERSOME FOR THEM TO REPORT EXPENDITURES, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A GRANT. AND SO THEY WERE TURNING OVER THOSE DUTIES TO FRIENDS OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND ELEMENTARY. AND I WANT TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S NOT A WAY FOR US TO DONATE THAT MONEY, MAKE THAT GRANT TO THEM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THEY'LL MAKE GOOD USE OF IT, AND THEN THEY'LL THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE US ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT WITH OTHER GROUPS FOR LONG.

I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF YOU KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IF IT'S PTA MONEY, MONEY, IT GETS SWEPT OUT IF IT'S NOT USED.

IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS PTA MONEY PER SE.

THIS IS THE FRIENDS OF ATLANTIC BEACH THERE. NO.

THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. OH, NO. THEY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT.

THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY ON DIFFERENT THINGS. OKAY, THEN THAT'S DIFFERENT. YEAH.

I THINK CONSOLIDATED FROM PTA TO FAB AND FAB IS A NONPROFIT ENTIRELY.

SO THERE'S NO PTA ANYMORE. OKAY. THERE YOU GO.

YEAH. AND THE MONEY FOR PTA HAD TO STAY WITHIN THE SCHOOL BOOKKEEPING.

YEAH, AND I THINK BABIES LIKE BAND PARENTS. I THINK IT'S OUTSIDE.

YES, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU EVERYONE. YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT THE CHAIR OF ART WANTED TO TAKE AB OUT OF THE 75 AND HAVE THAT HERE.

YEAH. I BASICALLY TOLD THEM NO. THEIR JOB IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IF THEY CHOOSE TO RECOMMEND.

NO. AND THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO IT. BUT THAT'S THE COMMISSION'S DECISION.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN CVB MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT A VARIANCE AND THEN THE VARIANCE COMING HERE.

AND YOU GUYS MAKING A DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT.

YEAH I'D FEEL GOOD ABOUT DOING THAT. OTHER YOU KNOW I JUST FEEL YOU KNOW IT IS OUR SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW OTHER YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL BAD. THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING WOULD BE $6,000.

AND ON MAINTENANCE, I FEEL LIKE I MEAN, MAYBE THE THING IS TO GET PAID TO APPLY AS OPPOSED TO THE SCHOOL.

FAIR ENOUGH. COMMISSIONER. SO JUST TO TELL YOU, COMMISSIONER GRANT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ONE.

ATLANTIC BEACH IS PART OF DUVAL COUNTY AND THEY ALREADY GET LAWN CARE.

SO THE EXTRA 6000 IS FOR BEAUTIFICATION JUST TO TOP IT OFF.

SO THAT'S AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS YOU PAY FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND CAVEAT TO THAT AND I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CHAIR AND EVEN THE CHAIR BEFORE THIS CURRENT CHAIR.

THE ISSUE IS REGARDING WHETHER THEY CAN RECEIVE THE MONEY TO DO THESE GREAT THINGS THAT THEY DO WITH THE MONEY.

THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT THEY NEVER PROVIDED RECEIPTS OR TRACKING OF OF WHERE THE MONEY ALL WENT.

AND THAT WAS YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR. SO I DO UNDERSTAND FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU GOT YOU HAVE TO PLAY BY THE RULES IF YOU'RE GOING.

YEAH. WELL I JUST EXPLAINED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT WE DON'T WANT TO PROBABLY DONATE OR GIVE A GRANT TO A SCHOOL PER SE DIRECT ANYMORE.

YOU BETTER GIVE IT TO FAITH BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER PREPARED TO ITEMIZE AND PROVIDE RECEIPTS AND THOSE THINGS WHICH THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN.

YEAH. RIGHT. AND AND THEY DID. THEY SUBMITTED A GRANT REQUEST.

IT'S IN THE QUEUE. YES. SO I'M A PARENT. GRANDPARENT AT ABBEY.

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SO TAKE THIS MY PERSPECTIVE. BUT ANY KID THAT LIVES WEST OF MAYPORT ROAD DOES NOT GO TO ABBEY.

AND WE'RE GIVING MONEY, CITY MONEY TO, WHAT, 60% OF OUR KIDS AND THE OTHER.

THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. MY CHILDREN DO GO TO ABBY BECAUSE THEIR SCHOOL CHOICE SENT TO THEM.

I KNOW A LOT OF NEIGHBORS DO. SO YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL CHOICE TO GO TO ABBY, AND THAT'S LIKE A WHOLE SIDE OF IT.

AND THEY COULD BE GOING OTHER PLACES TOO. BUT BUT I KNOW, BUT BUT THEY'RE ZONED IF YOU'RE ZONED FOR NEPTUNE BEACH.

AND WE'RE GIVING MONEY ONLY TO THE KIDS WHO GO HERE.

WE'RE KIND OF LEAVING OUT, WHAT, 40, 30% OF OUR KIDS.

YEAH. AND NEPTUNE BEACH ELEMENTARY IS OPEN. AND I'VE HEARD THIS ARGUMENT BEFORE PRESENTED TO AKA THAT NEPTUNE BEACH ELEMENTARY IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO PUT IN A REQUEST FOR THAT GRANT WHEN THEY DO THAT. BUT WE'RE GIVING THEM A BLOCK GRANT, RIGHT.

REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY APPLY TO THE LANDSCAPING.

YES OR NO, THE MONEY THAT KEVIN SAID WE GIVE THEM DIRECTLY.

NO, NO, THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THAT. THEY APPLY FOR THE LANDSCAPING GRANT.

NO NO NO NO NO, THAT'S TAKE THAT OUT OF YOUR THINKING.

THEY HAS THEY HAVE HAS HISTORICALLY GOTTEN A GRANT OUT OF THAT 75.

OKAY. YES. WHICH IS WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT THEY WOULDN'T PROVIDE RECEIPTS ON HOW THEY SPENT IT.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE CRITERIA FOR REAPPLYING.

YES. IT'S OUR GRANT MONEY. SO BEFORE WE LEAVE THIS SUBJECT, I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO CONSIDER THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WHEN WE ACTUALLY GET THE REQUEST FROM FROM ARK.

AND BY THE WAY, DID WE CHANGE IT FROM ARK OR WE STILL ARK? YES. BECAUSE YOU'RE REFERENCING CULTURAL ARTS AND.

WELL, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE DIVISION, NOT THE NAME OF THE. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ANYWAYS, I MENTIONED IT RECENTLY THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT US CONTINUING TO GIVE THIS LARGE GRANT TO THE FLETCHER BAND, AND THAT'S MY ALMA MATER. SO PLEASE KNOW THAT I LOVE MY MY BAND AND MY SCHOOL, BUT THAT'S A $10,000 GRANT.

AND SO I ATTEMPTED TO GET AGREEMENT FROM ONE CITY MAYOR TO THE SOUTH OF US TO, TO MATCH THAT.

THE ANSWER WAS NO. NO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE ANSWER WAS? NO. AND THEN THE SECOND CITY MANAGER WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES.

BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO REMEMBER WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I'M NOT INTO CONTINUING THESE LARGE GRANTS OUTSIDE THE CITY TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IF WE CAN'T GET OTHERS WHO ACTUALLY OWN THE SCHOOL IN THEIR CITY TO PUT UP ANYTHING.

SO JUST JUST KNOW THAT. AND BUT IT BUT IT DOES KIND OF GO INTO THE CONVERSATION THAT COMMISSIONER KELLY HAS BROUGHT UP IS WE HAVE CHILDREN AT AT NEPTUNE BEACH.

SO DO WE ACTUALLY EXPAND OUR GRANT WRITING FOR SCHOOLS VERSUS REDUCE IT? IT'S PROBLEMATIC. THIS IS NOT NORMAL FOR SMALL MUNICIPALITIES LIKE ATLANTIC BEACH TO BE FUNDING THIS KIND OF GRANT ALLOCATION, ESPECIALLY TO SCHOOLS. IT'S JUST NOT NORMAL. SO IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, DO IT.

BUT BUT WE'RE GOING TO HIT A WALL HERE. OKAY.

I KNOW WE CAN BRING IT ON TO PARKS MAINTENANCE.

SO ON PARKS MAINTENANCE YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A 31% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL SERVICES.

THAT IS PARTLY DUE TO THE ALLOCATION THE COST ALLOCATION, SALARY ALLOCATION FROM THE DIRECTOR TO PARKS MAINTENANCE.

IT IS ALSO WE TOOK A PARKS SUPERVISOR AND CONVERTED IT TO THE PARKS ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP MAINTENANCE MANAGER POSITION, WHICH IS AN AWFUL LONG TIME. AND THEN THERE WERE, IF WE LOOK AT IT, OPERATING SUPPLIES.

IT'S A BIG NUMBER THERE. BUT THIS IS WHERE WE COME INTO THE SPLIT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THE OPERATING EXPENSES, A LOT OF THE OPERATING EXPENSES THAT WERE ACTUALLY PARKS MAINTENANCE WAS IN PUBLIC WORKS PROPER.

SO I HAD A DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS, NEIGHBORHOODS.

SIT DOWN AND WITH MYSELF AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR.

AND WE WENT THROUGH THEIR OPERATING BUDGET, THEIR OPERATING EXPENSES AND AND DELINEATED.

OKAY. THESE SHOULD BE IN PARKS MAINTENANCE. THIS SHOULD BE IN PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THE MONEY THERE WHEN WE GET TO PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD BE A A NET ZERO.

I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GET MORE DOWN IN THE WEEDS HERE, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION ANYWAY. I KNOW WE BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK. SO OUR FOR PROFITS, LIKE OUR FRIENDS AT THE FARMERS MARKET FOR BAIT.

AND WE KNOW THERE'S MAINTENANCE ON THE PARKS DO SPECIFICALLY FOR FOR PROFITS, RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY WALK OVER TO GRASS OR WHATEVER. I'M.

I'M SURE OUR PUBLIC WORKS CAN TALK TO THAT. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, HAVE WE TAKEN A LOOK AT WHAT'S THIS COSTING THE CITY TO OPERATE THESE FOR PROFITS AND

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MAYBE INCREASING THE COST TO THEM. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I TALKED I BROUGHT FORTH THE TO THE COMMISSION WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS TO GIVEN THAT THE FARMER'S MARKET WAS ESSENTIALLY A CITY PROGRAM THAT WE WERE SPONSORING, WE IMPLEMENTED IT THROUGH AN EVENT PERMIT, BUT IT WAS IT'S A FOR PROFIT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT AN RFP FOR THAT. AND THEN AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO NEGOTIATE OUT WITH THE MAINTENANCE.

THE COSTS ARE BUT THE CURRENT PROVIDER HAS PERMITS OUT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'LL PUT OUT THE RFP AND HAVE IT GRADED AND HAVE SOMEBODY READY FOR NEXT.

RIGHT. NOT NEXT FISCAL BUT NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, BECAUSE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF TERTIARY THINGS THAT GO ON, YOU KNOW, PARKING. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BETTER THAN THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS STRUCTURED.

I CAN ONLY GO AFTER DIRECT EXPENSES TO THE CITY.

I CAN'T GO AFTER ANYTHING ELSE. BUT YES, WE ARE.

SO THAT'S NOT CONSIDERED IN THE BUDGET CURRENTLY, BUT WE ARE CONSIDERING THAT AS PART OF THE RFP PROCESS.

AND I WOULDN'T STOP AT JUST THE FARMERS MARKET.

THERE'S OTHER FOR PROFITS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

WHAT IS THE CAPITAL OUTLAY. SO THAT'S A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

OKAY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE IS ACTUALLY ON BREAK THAT DOWN.

IT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE. PARDON ME. YOU'LL BREAK DOWN WHAT ALL THE CAPITAL OUTLAY IS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

OKAY. AND THEN FOR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SERVICES I SEE A CHANGE HERE.

IT WAS LIKE THE INCREASE IN SALARY ALLOCATION FOR DIRECTOR.

IS THAT BECAUSE NOW THE FORMER PLANNING DIRECTOR IS NOW OVER MORE.

YEAH. SO? SO THERE. WHAT'S THAT. SO WHAT WE DO IS, NOT JUST THIS, BUT LIKE IN PUBLIC UTILITIES.

WE TAKE THE DIRECTOR'S SALARY AND WE DIVIDE IT UP AMONGST THE PEOPLE THAT THE DIRECTOR SUPERVISES.

SO. AND DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION PAYS A PART OF THEIR SALARY.

THE BUILDING CODE DIVISION PAYS PART OF THE SALARY.

RECREATION PAYS PART OF THE SALARY, AND MAINTENANCE PAYS A PART OF THE SALARY.

THAT'S A PRETTY STANDARD PROCESS. IT COSTS. ALLOCATE YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO THE PUBLIC.

WORKS WILL HAVE THEIR OWN PRESENTATION WITH THAT PORTION THERE.

RIGHT. BUT PROBABLY YOU WON'T SEE THE DIFFERENTIAL IN PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CHANGE.

WELL ACTUALLY YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE DECREASE IN THAT. YEAH. FROM THE DIRECTOR FROM SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT MOVE OVER.

YEAH. BUT IT'S NOT THE, IT'S NOT THE POSITION TO CHANGE THE POSITIONS.

BUT IN THE DIRECTOR'S POINT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN POSITIONS.

IT'S A CHANGE IN WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEY MANAGE, WHAT THEIR REQUIRED OR THEIR DUTIES ARE.

RIGHT? OKAY. WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP MAINTENANCE MANAGER POSITION? I KNOW, SO THEY OVERSEE THE PARKS MAINTENANCE AND THEY LOOKING AT HOW WE MAKE OUR PARKS MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY SUSTAINABLE. WHEN DID WE WHEN DID WHEN DID THAT? WE DID THAT AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THE PARKS SUPERVISOR, AND WE WE GAVE IT A LITTLE BUMP AND CHANGED THE TITLE TO ADD NEW REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

THAT'S ANDRE IS THE. YEAH, THOSE ARE THE PARKS.

DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO BE UNDER NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT PUBLIC WORKS? WELL, SO THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN ONE SECTION SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.

IF YOU REMEMBER, IN THE PRESENTATION, WE HAD PARKS PLANNING AND PLANNING.

WE HAD RECREATION AS ITS OWN DEPARTMENT, AND THEN WE HAD PARKS, MAINTENANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO WE HAD ALL THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS IN THE PARKS WAS BEING DONE BY THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

SO THE IDEA AND THERE WAS COMMUNICATION ISSUES BETWEEN THE THREE DIFFERENT.

SO THEN YOU MOVED TO RECREATION UNDERNEATH NEIGHBORHOODS AND PART OF THE PARKS.

BUT WON'T THIS SUCH A LONG TITLE? I DON'T. THIS IS ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP MAINTENANCE MANAGER POSITION.

WON'T THEY NEED TO BE WORKING IN VERY CLOSELY WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR? THEY DO. THEY WORK. WHY AREN'T THEY WORK THEN? WITH PUBLIC WORKS? PARDON? SO WHY AREN'T THEY UNDERNEATH THEM? I GUESS BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POSITION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

SO THEY ARE. THAT POSITION OVERSEES ALL THE PARKS MAINTENANCE PEOPLE.

SO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO EMPTY THE GARBAGE CANS, MOW THE YARDS, PAINT THE BATHROOMS REPLACE.

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MAINTENANCE ITEMS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE INSPECTED AND DON'T NEED PERMITS.

THEY DO ALL OF THAT. THEY DO THE BEAUTIFICATION.

THEY HELP FACILITATE EVENTS. SO THEY SET UP TENTS.

THEY SET UP WHATEVER SCREENING WE MIGHT NEED FOR AN EVENT.

SEEDING WE MIGHT NEED FOR AN EVENT. THEY DO ALL THAT.

SO WHEN YOU SAY ADDED THOSE TWO POSITIONS, YOU DON'T MEAN YOU ADDED THEM.

YOU JUST CHANGED THE TITLE. THEY WILL HAVE THE TITLE OF EXISTING POSITION.

YEAH. AND DID IT COST MONEY? BECAUSE WE HAD WE TOOK THE DIRECTOR'S POSITION AND THEN DOWNGRADED IT ESSENTIALLY ZERO DIRECTOR POSITION. I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION.

TWO QUESTIONS. YOU PROBABLY EXPLAIN THIS, BUT YOUR STYLE ON THE BUDGETING IS TO HAVE WHAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AND THEN ENHANCEMENTS.

IF WE WANT TO DO SOME ALA CARTE SWAPPING OUT AND SO ON.

BUT WHO IS IDENTIFYING THE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET ITEMS AS NEEDING TO BE IN THE BUDGET.

IS THAT YOU? YEAH. SO THE CAPITAL WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL, THOSE ARE WHAT IS FOR YEAR 26 ALREADY APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT IF IT WASN'T IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, THEN IT BECOMES AN ENHANCEMENT. OKAY, THAT'S THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS HAVE YOU YET DETERMINED OR DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ON WHAT WE WILL ADD TO THE RESERVES AND THE GENERAL FUND FROM NOT HAVING SPENT EVERYTHING THIS YEAR? NO, I DON'T.

OKAY. WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE AUDIT GETS DO WE KNOW? OKAY. DO WE KNOW WHAT OUR PERCENTAGE OR DOLLAR AMOUNT WHICH THEN CONVERT TO A PERCENTAGE.

EXCESS RESERVES IS. IT'S OVER 10%. WHAT? WHAT? OUR LAST RESERVE NUMBER WAS FOR RIGHT AROUND 47%.

I THOUGHT. OH, I'M SORRY, 47%. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH.

SO WE HAVE 25% SET ASIDE AND A DEDICATED RESERVES ACCOUNT.

YES, THAT'S LISTED AS GENERAL FUND OPERATING RESERVES.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOMETHING LESS THAN 25% IN JUST RESERVES IN GENERAL.

YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT.

BACK ON TRACK. YEAH. LET'S GO ON TO THE INCLUDED CAPITAL.

SO HERE YOU'LL SEE STATEN ISLAND DOG PARK WASTE BAGS, FOUNTAINS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

TRASH BINS AT THE ENTRANCES, PLAYGROUND, EQUIPMENT UPGRADES, CITYWIDE TABLES AT THE CORNER, SPLASH PAD, PICNIC TABLES, TENNIS COURT AND BASKETBALL COURT, RESURFACING BALLPARK BIKE RACKS AND REMOVING THE BERM SO THAT OUR MUSIC FEST AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ORIENTED MORE TOWARDS THE PARK.

KAYAK LAUNCH AT TIDE VIEWS. STATEN ISLAND WAY FINDING.

A RIDE ON SPREADER FOR THE BALL FIELDS. AND THEN MORE UPGRADES, PARK EQUIPMENT, SPECIFIC UPGRADES AT MARVIN GARDENS.

AND THEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT MARVIN GARDENS.

THIS IS TRUE, BUT THAT'S WHAT ALBERT WAS LISTED IN THE CIP, I SUSPECT.

SO IT JUST GOT CARRIED FORWARD. BUT AGAIN, I'LL TRACK 45,000.

FOR WHAT? YEAH. MARVIN GARDENS IS A PARK THE SIZE OF THIS ROOM.

YEAH. IT'S UPGRADE TO EQUIPMENT FOR NEW TIRE.

YES. SO DON'T GO THERE. THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

WHAT? I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT? SO. GOOD EVENING.

AMANDA ASKEW, THE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE IS NOT SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT EARMARKED, BUT I CAN TELL YOU I HAD STICKER SHOCK WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

IT IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. IT WOULD BE SMALLER IN NATURE.

IN ADDITION TO THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. ABOUT 20% OF THE COST OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT INCLUDES THE SHIPPING OF IT AND THE INSTALL.

SO IT IS EXPENSIVE TO GET IT HERE. IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE EXTREMELY ACTIVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

YOU KNOW, NOT ALL THE 45,000. SO, COMMISSIONER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE.

I WAS LOOKING AT IT TOO. SO WE HAVE NO CITY GRADE EQUIPMENT THERE.

SO WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PURCHASE EQUIPMENT THAT MEETS PLAYGROUND STANDARDS, WHICH IS FALL ZONES.

AND WILL LAST A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT. DO ME A FAVOR.

WHEN YOU GET A LIST OF THAT, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S IN WHAT'S GOING ON.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T CHOSEN THE SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT YET, BUT WE HAVE SOME IDEA.

I'LL BE GLAD TO, BUT THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER.

SHARE IT. WELL, YEAH. AND I'M GOING TO JUMP ON THAT BECAUSE WITHOUT DOING THAT, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE GOING TO GO FIND EQUIPMENT THAT EQUIVALENTS $45,000.

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AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT FOR THAT LITTLE POSTAGE STAMP.

I DON'T THINK SO. SO WE SHOULD NOT WASTE A LOT OF TIME GETTING A LOT OF BIDS ON THAT.

YES. WELL, WHY IS IT JUST DESIGNATED SEPARATELY FROM THE UPGRADE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT CITYWIDE? IT WAS LISTED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT WAY ON THIS SHEET IT SAYS INCLUDED CAPITAL OUTLAYS UPGRADE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT CITYWIDE 180.

AND THEN THERE'S A SEPARATE ONE FOR ASHBY PARK.

AGAIN, IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT WAY.

AND ALL OF THOSE PARK RELATED THINGS CAME OUT OF THE PARKS MASTER PLAN SO SPECIFICALLY.

PREVIOUSLY IT WAS AT MARVIN GARDENS PARK, BUT NOW IT IS ASHBY'S PARK.

DO WE KNOW AMANDA? WHAT? CITYWIDE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE.

WHAT? SPECIFICALLY? WE ARE LOOKING AT JACK RUSSELL PARK.

WE'RE KIND OF REACHING THE END OF LIFE WITH THE PLAYGROUND HERE.

AND THEN ALSO AT JORDAN AGAIN. JORDAN, THAT'S NOT REALLY A LOT OF MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

IF YOU LOOK AT JACK RUSSELL PARK, THAT THE ONE PLAYGROUND FOR THE LARGER KIDS, THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO RUN AROUND $120,000.

OH, WOW. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. AND YOU SAID END OF LIFE.

SO DO YOU HAVE, LIKE, A FORMULA YOU FOLLOW? IT'S LIKE TEN YEARS.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. THAT'S WHAT MY NEW PARK'S ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP MAINTENANCE MANAGER IS DOING.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND CATEGORIZING ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT.

SOME OF IT YOU CAN REPEAT, REPLACE A PIECE OF IT.

SOME OF IT. IT'S LARGER, THAT'S BROKEN, THAT'S JUST UNSAFE, THAT WE NEED TO RETIRE IT AND AND ADD NEW TO IT.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WE HAVE AN INFORMAL BUT WE ARE FORMALIZING A RANKING SYSTEM FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

OKAY. SO WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND I DON'T THE SPLASH PADS ON HERE TOO, IT SAYS YOU'RE GOING TO GET COVERED.

TWO NEW COVERED PICNIC TABLES FOR DINNER AND THE SPLASH PAD ITSELF.

THE CONCRETE CUTS THE CHILDREN'S FEET. I'VE WITNESSED IT MYSELF, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT, BUT I'D LOVE TO ADD IT A SQUISHY PAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, BUT I OR EVEN LIKE, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME KIND OF THING THAT THEY USE AT HANNAH PARK SPLASH PAD OR THE ONE IN JAX BEACH, LIKE A COATING. OR MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING. YEAH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I'LL SEE THAT. YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. YEAH.

AMANDA, CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE KAYAK LAUNCH REPLACEMENT? I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU NEEDED A LAUNCH TO LAUNCH A KAYAK. I THOUGHT YOU JUST HAD A DOCK.

AND JUST THEN YOU DO HAVE A DOCK, BUT IT'S KIND OF A FLOATING THING THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE DOCK.

SO YOU STEP DOWN A COUPLE OF STEPS. IT'S GOT TWO V'S IN IT, SO YOU CAN PUT YOUR KAYAK IN THERE AND IT'S STABLE WHILE YOU GET IN THE KAYAK, AND THEN YOU CAN PUSH YOURSELF OUT INTO THE WATER.

VERY WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

IF WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE PARK MASTER PLAN OR THE CIP.

THE ASK AND THESE ARE RANKED BY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE COME TO THE END, I WILL THEN LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A WHAT STAFF RANK OF COLLECTIVE UNIT IS JUST LIKE LAST TIME AND THEN THE COMMISSION WILL. BY THAT TIME WE WILL KNOW HOW MUCH WE ARE FROM.

UNDER OUR RESERVES, UNDER OUR NOT OUR RESERVES, SORRY, UNDER OUR ESTIMATED REVENUE.

AND SO WHAT THE GAP IS BETWEEN OUR EXPENDITURES AND REVENUE.

MY EXPECTATION IS IT WILL BE A POSITIVE GAP SO WE CAN ADD TO THE BUDGET, WHICH WOULD BE SOME OF THESE THINGS.

I THINK AMANDA IS PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE OF THESE AND WHY SHE RANKED THEM THE WAY SHE DID.

IF YOU WOULD CARE FOR THAT. IF NOT, THAT'S FINE.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT PLEASE COME ON UP, AMANDA, BECAUSE I DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIMPLE ANSWER ON THIS.

BUT FAIRWAY VILLAS IS A COMMUNITY OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

YES. SO HOW ARE WE DOING THERE? ZERO SCAPING AND SIGN ENTRANCE.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE FORGOTTEN PARK UP THERE. AS YOU TURN INTO THE NEIGHBOR.

THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE ANSWER. THERE'S A PARCEL THAT WAS KIND OF LEFT OVER BY THE DEVELOPER, WHO GAVE IT BACK TO THE CITY AS A PARK. RIGHT NOW THERE'S JUST A BENCH THERE, AND IT IS KIND OF A FORGOTTEN PARK.

IT DOESN'T RECEIVE AS MUCH LOVE AS IT SHOULD.

SO THIS DID COME FROM THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN TO CREATE SOME ZERO SCAPING, WHICH IS, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT,

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VERY LOW MAINTENANCE LANDSCAPING. IT NEEDS ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED, IT NEEDS VERY LITTLE WATERING.

BUT TO HELP BEAUTIFY THAT AREA AND KIND OF ACTIVATE IT DURING THE PARK'S MASTER PLANNING PROCESS THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T COME OUT AND SAY, WE WANT TO SWINGSET. WE WANT TO ACTIVATE IT. THEY JUST WANTED KIND OF A SERENE AREA TO TO CHILL AND HANG OUT.

WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ZERO SCAPE IT AS WELL TO WE HAVE A HOMELESS POPULATION SOMETIMES IN THAT AREA THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH AND GETTING IT NICER LANDSCAPED AND SOME OF THE UNDERSTORY ADJACENT TO THE FENCE WILL HELP US HELP CONTROL SOME OF THE HOMELESS.

SO THE SIGN AND ENTRANCES FOR THE PARK OR FOR THE COMMUNITY? FOR THE PARK? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. GO ON TO THE LAST SLIDE.

SO, UNDER NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE COMMISSION PRIORITIES, THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. DONNA PARK BASEBALL FIELD UPGRADE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET FOR THAT.

BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE UPGRADES YOU'RE LOOKING AT US DOING THERE.

I THINK STAFF'S IDENTIFIED THAT WE NEED LIGHTING UPGRADES THERE.

I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HESITANT TO DO A LOT OF FIELD UPGRADES, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT OVER TO THE BASEBALL, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO JUST DO IT AGAIN. RIGHT.

WHAT ABOUT THE DUGOUT? IS THAT WHAT THEY CALL IT? I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BASEBALL. DO WE DO WE HAVE A LIKE A ANY INPUT FROM THE THE THE PARK GUY? YES. WELL, RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S IT'S THE LIGHTING AND THE LIGHTING FOR SURE IN THE SCOREBOARD.

WE JUST WE JUST REPLACED IT. OKAY. JUST. THOSE ARE THE TWO.

I HEARD THE SCOREBOARD. OR WAS THAT THE FLAG? FOOTBALL IS.

WE HAVE A MOBILE SCOREBOARD THAT WE CAN USE FOR FLAG FOOTBALL AND FOR THE BASEBALL FIELD THERE.

OKAY. IS THE DUGOUT OKAY? DO WE NEED PARKS UP HERE? JUST KIND OF TELL US, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE DUGOUT? IT COULD USE SOME LOVE. I MEAN, IT IT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TORN DOWN AND REBUILT, BUT IT IT COULD USE SOME NEW BENCHES IN THERE AND SOME UPGRADE.

IT'S WOODEN IN THERE. SO. AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT LIGHTING AND AND UPGRADING THE DUGOUT.

AND WOULD WE NOT WANT TO PUT IN A NEW SCOREBOARD.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ONE HERE, JACK RUSSELL WE DO HAVE A PERMANENT SCOREBOARD AT RUSSELL AND WE DON'T WANT ONE OVER THERE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET. BUT WE DID HAVE ONE A LOWER AMOUNT THAT WE COULD USE.

IT'S ON WHEELS, SO IT CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE THINGS AT THE PARK.

BUT IF THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE.

OKAY. YEAH. BUT WE'LL LOOK AT IT. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES BACK AROUND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT.

AND THEN WE ALLOCATED $10,000 FOR DOG PARK UPGRADES, WHICH WAS BOTH DOG PARTS.

IT WOULD BE BOTH DOG PARKS. RIGHT. THE ROSE PARK.

YEAH. ROSE PARK IS KIND OF KIND OF A SMALL, LIKE MY DOG DOESN'T LIKE LIKE IT.

NO, IT'S JUST DIRT. I IMAGINE YOUR DOG WOULD JUST COME OUT LOOKING LIKE A BALL OF MOSQUITO.

YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. AGAIN, WE WOULD LOOK FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM COMMISSION.

ROSE PARK IS VERY SMALL TO ADD. TOO MUCH EQUIPMENT, TOO.

WE HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT AT THE OTHER DOG PARK, BUT IS IT MORE AGILITY? IS IT MORE? YES. YOU KNOW, AGILITY. AGILITY AND AND TURF.

YEAH. BECAUSE THE IT'S JUST A MUD PILE. YES, JUST A QUESTION.

SO THE FEES THAT YOU PAY TO GO TO THE AQUATIC DOG PARK, DO THEY GO BACK TO THE PARK OR WHERE DOES THAT MONEY? I THINK THEY GO TO THE GENERAL FUND. I'M NOT 100% JUST GOES INTO THE BECAUSE WE JUST PUT IN A NEW TRACK AND IT'S KIND OF DISINTEGRATING A LITTLE BIT.

BUT YEAH, IT'D BE NICE IF THAT DOG PARK MONEY WENT TO THE DOG PARK.

BUT WE HAVE, I BELIEVE, IN PUBLIC WORKS BUDGET, 90,000 EARMARKS IN THERE BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR ENHANCEMENTS, BECAUSE THAT'S ALSO A STORMWATER PROGRAM.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DOG PARK. WE HAVE A LOT OF EROSION THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL IN THE FLOODING. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. I HAVE A WALL OF AGILITY RIBBONS, AND AGILITY IS ADJUSTABLE BY THE SIZE OF THE DOG.

SO IF WE TRIED TO PUT IN ONE SIZE FITS ALL, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT.

IT'S ONLY GOING TO FIT THE DOGS OF THAT HEIGHT.

SO YOU MIGHT HAVE, LIKE, OBSTACLES AND STUFF THAT THAT GENERAL GENERIC DOGS COULD RUN ON.

BUT I WOULDN'T ADVISE TRYING TO DUPLICATE THE ACTUAL AGILITY EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD NOT.

IT'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL. OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALL SHOULD HAVE THE SPREADSHEETS

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THAT SHOW THE DESCRIPTION, THE 25 YEAR APPROVED BUDGET, THE 26 RECOMMENDED BUDGET, AND THEN THE PERCENT CHANGE FOR EACH OF THE DIVISIONS WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. AND WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, ON ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMISSIONERS AND.

ALL RIGHT. THEN WE WILL ADJOURN AND TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS AND CONVENE ON TIME FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.