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THIS SPECIAL COMMISSION WORKSHOP DATED MONDAY, OCTOBER 27TH, 2025 FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

AND WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY HERE. SO WE'LL GO STRAIGHT INTO THE AGENDA.

[1. PUBLIC COMMENT]

ITEM 1 IS PUBLIC COMMENT. MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? OKAY. NOW, ARE THESE PRESENTERS THAT ARE REPRESENTING ON THE REQUEST FOR THE GRANTS,

[2. TOPICS]

OR ARE THESE CITIZENS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE REQUEST FOR THE GRANTS? I'M NOT SURE IF I WOULD KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, BUT ONE IS FROM FRIENDS OF ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

ONE'S FROM MAYPORT COASTAL SCIENCE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

ONE'S FROM FLETCHER BAND. AND THEN THERE'S. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S THE ORIGINAL PRESENTERS.

EVERYBODY'S WELCOME TO SPEAK. WE'LL LISTEN TO EVERYBODY, AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHAT DIRECTION.

OKAY, SO CALL THEM OUT, PLEASE. YEP. OKAY. STEPHANIE.

I MESSED IT UP LAST. TREFRY. TREFRY. YEAH. WELL DONE.

OKAY. SO I'M NOT SURE IF I'M SPEAKING IN THE RIGHT PLACE, BUT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD.

SO GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF FRIENDS OF ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

I'M HERE TO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'VE APPLIED FOR THROUGH THE ARTS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL GRANT, WHICH I THINK IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR THE WORKSHOP.

OUR REQUEST IS FOR $10,000 TO SUPPORT THREE IMPORTANT AREAS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT ALL OF OUR 500 STUDENTS AT ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY, OUR STEM CLASSROOM, THE ROBOTICS TEAM, AND OUR MUCH NEEDED ART SUPPLIES.

THESE FUNDS WILL GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS HANDS ON CLASSROOM MATERIALS THAT ENHANCE OUR CURRICULUM.

THINGS LIKE SCIENCE LAB KITS, ROBOTIC COMPONENTS, AND ART SUPPLIES FOR EVERY GRADE LEVEL.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR SCHOOL RECEIVES VERY LIMITED FUNDING FOR ART.

I THINK I MENTIONED THIS ONCE BEFORE, BUT WE ONLY RECEIVE ABOUT $200 PER YEAR FROM DCPS.

THAT BARELY COVERS THE BASIC MATERIALS. SO WITH YOUR SUPPORT, EVERY CHILD WILL HAVE ACCESS TO A RICHER, MORE ENGAGING ART EXPERIENCES. ALSO, OUR DEDICATED STEM CLASS BEGAN JUST LAST YEAR AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IMPRESSIVE RESULTS. OUR STUDENTS FAST SCIENCE SCORES HAVE INCREASED BY 14 POINTS, SHOWING THAT HANDS ON, PROJECT BASED LEARNING TRULY DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

ALSO, OUR ROBOTICS TEAM HAS ALSO TAKEN OFF, AND IT'S SPARKING EXCITEMENT FOR SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING AMONG STUDENTS WHO MAY NEVER HAVE IMAGINED THEMSELVES IN THOSE FIELDS.

SO WITH THE FUNDING, WE CAN COVER COMPETITION FEES AND PROVIDE MATERIALS NEEDED TO CONTINUE BUILDING ON THAT SUCCESS.

SO, IN SHORT, THIS GRANT WILL HELP US CONTINUE TO INSPIRE CREATIVITY, CURIOSITY, AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR STUDENTS THAT ALIGN BEAUTIFULLY WITH ATLANTIC BEACH COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY ENRICHMENT AND EDUCATION.

WE TRULY APPRECIATE THAT THE ARC COMMITTEE DID RECOMMEND US FOR OUR FULL FUNDING OF $10,000, AND WE THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS INVESTMENT IN OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORTING THE NEXT GENERATION OF THINKERS, MAKERS AND ARTISTS AT ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

THANK YOU MISS TREFRY. THANK YOU. AARON LAKATOS.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSION, I-M AARON LAKATOS, SOME OF THE PRINCIPAL OF MAYPORT COASTAL SCIENCES MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE ARE THE OFFICIAL MIDDLE SCHOOL IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. FOR OVER 5 YEARS NOW THIS COMMISSION HAS AWARDED US A GRANT MONEY FOR OUR STUDENTS DURING TRANSITION AND ENRICHMENT CAMP.

THIS TAKES PLACE THE SECOND TO LAST WEEK OVER THE SUMMER, WHEN THAT SUMMER LAG IS HITTING AND STUDENTS ARE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.

IT EASES WITH ANXIETY, BUT IT ALSO HELPS THEM GET TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE GOING.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HIGH SCHOOL IS A LOT MORE DIFFERENT THAN ELEMENTARY TO MIDDLE.

AND SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS NOW WE HAVE BAND.

NOW WE HAVE SPORTS. NOW WE HAVE THE PROGRAMS. BUT WHAT WE SEE ARE THE INCOMING SIXTH GRADERS DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EXPOSED TO THAT. AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE AN ENRICHMENT CAMP BASED ON ARTS AND RECREATION.

SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. SEWING, PICKLEBALL, DEBATE, TABLE TENNIS, BOARD GAMES, CHESS, COOKING, FRENCH CULTURE, YOGA, BOOK CLUB, LINE DANCING, SYMPHONIC BAND, MINDFULNESS, AND MORE. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.

AND SO WHEN OUR STUDENTS COME IN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO GO AFTER. AND SO EXPOSING THEM TO THIS DURING THE ENRICHMENT PROGRAM OVER THE SUMMER HELPS THEM GET PREPARED FOR THE SCHOOL YEAR.

IT HELPS EASE THE ANXIETY. IT EASES THE PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY'S MIND THAT MY CHILD IS GOING SOMEWHERE POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

I KNOW THAT THIS THIS COMMITTEE IS LOOKING FOR TEENS AND TWEENERS, AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE WITH OUR STUDENT POPULATION AT THE

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MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND SO WE HAVE THE STUDENTS THEY'RE READY TO GO.

AND IT'S ALMOST INFUSING THIS INTO OUR STUDENT POPULATION THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR STUDENTS. WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR MAYBE MAYBE PEOPLE WILL COME TO THIS. MAYBE THIS IS AN EVENT THAT WE CAN SPONSOR, THAT PEOPLE MAY COME. WE ALREADY HAVE THE STUDENTS. YOU HAVE THEIR CAPTIVE AUDIENCE.

AND SO THE FUNDING REALLY IMPLEMENTS IT INTO THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT MAKES THE THE FAMILIES REALLY FEEL CONNECTION.

IT MAKES IT FEEL CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY. IT MAKES IT FEEL CONNECTED TO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO BY BUILDING A BROADER BASE FOR STUDENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT SUPPORT.

WE'VE BEEN IN A SCHOOL FOR 5 YEARS NOW, AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF ESSENTIALLY PROGRAMS LIKE THIS AND THE COMMUNITY COMING AND FILLING THOSE GAPS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE ALSO HAVE AN AMAZING ROBOTICS CLUB THAT ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS.

AND SO THE FUNDING AND THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING GO DIRECTLY TO ARTS AND RECREATION IN OUR SCHOOL COMMUNITY, WHICH MAKES OUR COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, PRINCIPAL.

DABNI MCCRARY.

HI. MY NAME IS DABNI MCCRARY. I'M ONE OF THE FUNDRAISING CHAIR PEOPLE FOR THE FLETCHER MIDDLE BAND.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF ALL THE STUDENTS AND PARENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM. IF WE.

THIS WAS THE FIFTH YEAR THAT WE HAD APPLIED FOR THIS GRANT FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. WE ACTUALLY DID IT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE WE WERE NOTIFIED BY THE CITY THAT THERE WASN'T A PROGRAM AT FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL THAT WAS BEING FUNDED AT ALL FOR THE ARTS AND RECREATION GRANT.

AND SO WE APPLIED FOR IT. THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

OVER THE YEARS THE ARTS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE HAS GONE TO PRINCIPAL LEDFORD AND SAID, WHICH ARTS AND RECREATION PROGRAM AT FLETCHER SHOULD BE FUNDED? AND HE CONFIRMED, YES, IT IS THE BAND. THEY ARE THE KIDS THAT NEED THIS FUNDING.

AND THE REASON THAT WE ASK FOR FUNDING THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THE TAXPAYERS SUPPORT IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS.

I WAS TOLD BY JORDAN THAT YOU GUYS GOT A COPY OF OUR FINAL REPORT FROM LAST YEAR.

WE PROVIDE OVER 650 HOURS OF PROGRAMING PER STUDENT OVER THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY SPEND IN SCHOOL.

SO THERE ARE BAND CLASSES DURING SCHOOL, AND THAT'S WHAT'S FUNDED BY YOUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

IT'S WHAT HAPPENS AFTER SCHOOL. AND IT'S WE ADD UP ALL THE HOURS AND PUT IT IN OUR FINAL REPORT, AND IT'S OVER 650 HOURS PER STUDENT. THE FLETCHER BAND, I THINK THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THIS UNLESS YOU'RE KIND OF IN THE BUBBLE, THAT IT'S UNIQUE IN DUVAL COUNTY. IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, ACTUALLY, ON NOVEMBER 8TH, THE BAND IS GOING TO GO TO STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, WHICH HAS BEEN AN HONOR FOR THE FLETCHER BAND, FOR MY THIS IS MY EIGHTH YEAR AS A BAND PARENT.

I'VE GOT 5 KIDS WITH 11 YEARS BAND, SO I'M GOING TO BE IN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.

AND THEY'RE ALL BAND KIDS. BUT THIS IS THE EIGHTH YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS, AND IT'S A LONG STANDING TRADITION. AND FOR THE YEARS BEFORE MY KIDS WERE INVOLVED, THEY DID STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS. TELL ME ANOTHER PROGRAM AT FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL THAT GOES TO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP EVERY YEAR. AND YOU? IT MIGHT BE WRESTLING.

I'M NOT SURE. BUT IT'S ALSO THE ONLY BAND IN DUVAL COUNTY THAT DOES THAT.

WE'VE GOT OTHER PROGRAMS IN NASSAU COUNTY, CLAY COUNTY, SAINT JOHNS COUNTY THAT FUND THEIR ARTS PROGRAMS IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN DUVAL COUNTY IS ABLE TO DO, BECAUSE IT'S SO BIG THAT DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO WE REPRESENT DUVAL COUNTY EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

THERE'S NOT ANOTHER PROGRAM LIKE THAT, EXCEPT THE ONE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR BEACHES KIDS BECAUSE OF SUPPORT FROM PROGRAMS LIKE YOU GUYS.

SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS IN THAT 650 HOUR, AND PRINCIPAL [INAUDIBLE] CAN SPEAK TO THIS.

WE SPEND AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME SUPPORTING MIDDLE SCHOOL BANDS, AND ESPECIALLY FOR MAYPORT THIS LAST YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN OVER THERE MENTORING AND PROVIDING INSTRUCTORS AND TEACHERS AND STUDENT SUPPORT AND ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BAND PROGRAM CONTINUES BECAUSE IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO INVEST TIME IN THOSE KIDS.

FINALLY, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE BAND BUBBLE IS THAT AND THIS IS NOT AN ABNORMAL YEAR, OUT OF OUR SENIOR CLASS LAST YEAR THOSE KIDS EARNED $1.2 MILLION IN SCHOLARSHIP MONEY.

SOME OF IT, AND PROBABLY A GOOD THIRD OF THEM, MAYBE.

MAYBE 40% OF THEM WENT ON TO DO MUSIC IN COLLEGE.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEIR LONG STANDING THEIR LONG STANDING DEVELOPMENT, AND IT GOES ON INTO THEIR COLLEGE CAREER, TOO.

SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS OUR FIFTH YEAR APPLYING.

IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST BAND. IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A CLASS IN SCHOOL.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE FOR OUR BEACH KIDS.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS MCCRARY.

YEAH. WELL, I THOUGHT SINCE WE DIDN'T DO THAT WITH THE OTHERS, LET'S GO THROUGH ALL OF THEM AND THEN WE CAN CALL THEM BACK.

IS THAT OKAY? MARLINA VINCENT. SENT. HI, I'M MARLINA VINCENT. I'M A RESIDENT IN ATLANTIC BEACH, AND I LIVE AT 1130 SEMINOLE ROAD.

AND I'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, EMAILED YOU AND BEEN HERE IN THE COMMISSION MEETINGS BEFORE TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING THE SCHOOLS.

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AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO ITERATE THAT AGAIN. AS A VOLUNTEER WHO HAS VOLUNTEERED IN ALL THREE OF THE SCHOOLS AND MY ALL MY CHILDREN HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THREE.

MY HUSBAND, HIS SIBLINGS, LIKE, OUR FAMILY'S BEEN HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH FOR LIKE, OVER 40 YEARS NOW.

SO THERE'S A REASON WHY FAMILIES CONTINUOUSLY STAY AND THEIR CHILDREN COME BACK AND THEY STAY, AND IT'S THAT QUALITY OF LIFE. SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER ALL THREE OF SCHOOLS ALL THREE SCHOOLS, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR YOUNGEST RESIDENTS IS ALSO IMPORTANT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COME UP HERE IN SUPPORT OF ALL THREE SCHOOLS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS VINCENT. MAYOR, I RECEIVED THREE MORE SLIPS WHILE THE OTHERS WERE OKAY.

IS THAT OKAY? LET ME CALL THEM OUT. SURE. OKAY.

HEATHER OLSEN. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS HEATHER OLSEN, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE MAYPORT ROBOTICS CLUB.

I WANTED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF CONTINUING TO INCLUDE OUR PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH GRANT PROGRAM.

OUR ROBOTICS CLUB HAS HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF RECEIVING SUPPORT THROUGH THESE GRANTS IN THE PAST, AND I CANNOT OVERSTATE HOW IMPACTFUL THAT THEY HAVE BEEN.

WITH THE SUPPORT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE OUR STUDENTS FROM A SMALL LOCAL TEAM ALL THE WAY TO COMPETING AT THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL FOR SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW.

IN FACT, AT LEAST ONE TEAM FROM OUR CLUB HAS PLACED FIRST IN ONE OF THE DIVISIONS AT THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

OUR SUCCESSES SHINE A LIGHT ON ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND AS WE'RE CELEBRATED IN THE MEDIA, WE'VE HAD NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, WE'VE BEEN ON THE NEWS WE'RE BRINGING ATTENTION TO ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH. THESE EXPERIENCES CHANGE LIVES.

THEY OPEN DOORS FOR OUR STUDENTS, GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO SEE THAT THEIR HARD WORK, CREATIVITY, AND TEAMWORK CAN TAKE THEM FURTHER THAN THEY EVER IMAGINED.

BUT THE IMPACT DOESN'T STOP WITH THESE STUDENTS.

THESE YOUNG PEOPLE BRING BACK WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED AND INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY MENTOR YOUNGER KIDS, THEY INSPIRE THEIR PEERS, AND THEY CARRY WITH THEM A SENSE OF PRIDE IN REPRESENTING ATLANTIC BEACH ON A GLOBAL STAGE. WHEN OUR KIDS SUCCEED, OUR COMMUNITY SUCCEEDS.

AS YOU PREPARE TO DETERMINE WHO WILL RECEIVE GRANTS, I WANT TO RAISE AN IMPORTANT POINT.

SCHOOL PROGRAMS, INCLUDING OURS, APPLIED IN GOOD FAITH AND MET ALL THE STATED QUALIFICATIONS DURING THE SUBMISSION PROCESS.

IT FEELS UNFAIR TO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS AFTER THE FACT, ESPECIALLY WHEN SO MANY GROUPS FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES AS THEY WERE GIVEN.

SO TONIGHT I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING MAYPORT MIDDLE SCHOOL PROGRAMS KEEP INVESTING IN OUR KIDS BECAUSE WHEN WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO THRIVE, THEY TURN AROUND AND MAKE OUR COMMUNITY STRONGER, PROUDER, AND MORE CONNECTED THAN EVER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MICHELLE FORCIER. GOOD JOB. THANKS. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL MARCHING BAND AS WELL.

CAN YOU CAN YOU PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME, PLEASE? FORCIER. REALLY? YOU GOT IT. YEAH. WELL DONE.

VERY IMPRESSIVE. I AM THE OTHER HALF OF THE FUNDRAISING COORDINATOR BOARD MEMBER.

I WANTED TO COME UP BECAUSE WHEN I WAS HERE PRESENTING THE PRESENTATION, I WAS ASKED, WHAT OTHER FUNDRAISING DO WE DO? WELL, CURRENTLY, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON, BUT I WANT TO COME SPECIFICALLY INVITE YOU GUYS TO COME OUT ON SATURDAY TO MPA, WHICH IS MUSIC PERFORMANCE ASSESSMENT. THE DISTRICT 17 IS REQUIRED TO DO.

FLETCHER IS HOSTING. THERE'S 22 BANDS COMING.

IT IS A BIG EVENT, BUT WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME AND SEE FLETCHER AND WHAT THEY DO AND WHAT YOU'RE INVESTING IN.

OUR PROGRAM IS MORE THAN JUST MUSIC. IT TEACHES OUR KIDS LEADERSHIP, COMMUNICATION, ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT GOES MORE THAN JUST THE MUSIC. AND THIS PROGRAM IS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE STUDENTS AT FLETCHER.

BUT SATURDAY AT 8>30 FLETCHER TAKES THE FIELD.

WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO COME OUT AND SEE US. IT IS ALSO A BIG FUNDRAISER AS WE RUN CONCESSIONS, SO THAT IS A BIG MONEY MAKER FOR US AS WELL. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU SEE HERE AND THERE.

WE NEVER STOP. BUT THANK YOU GUYS. AND THIS SATURDAY IS THAT THE SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGE.

SATURDAY. SO IT IS THAT THE SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE RENAMING OF THE FIELD.

NO SATURDAY IS MPH JUST ABANDONMENT OKAY. IT'S DISTRICT 17, EVERY SCHOOL IT'S 22 BANDS THAT HAVE TO PERFORM.

THANK YOU MISS FORCIER. MELISSA BALAGUER.

SHE GOT MY LAST NAME RIGHT, TOO. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I WANTED TO COME UP AS A RESIDENT OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND ALSO SPEAK ABOUT FLETCHER HIGH BAND.

WE CALL THE FLETCHER HIGH BAND THE PRIDE OF THE BEACHES BECAUSE IT IS A COMMUNITY OF ALL THE BEACH KIDS.

THERE ARE KIDS FROM ATLANTIC BEACH, JAX BEACH, NEPTUNE BEACH, AND WE JUST HAPPENED TO LIVE IN ATLANTIC BEACH.

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AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT MY SON DECIDED TO JOIN THE FLETCHER BAND BECAUSE IN, SINCE MAY, HE HAS BEEN DEDICATED AND TO THE POINT WHERE HE WAS SICK THIS WEEKEND AND THEY HAD A PRACTICE AND HE WANTED TO SHOW UP.

AND I SAID GO BACK TO BED. SO THAT'S HOW DEDICATED THESE CHILDREN ARE.

THEY SHOW UP, THEY GIVE THEIR TIME. THEY SHOW.

THEY SHOW RESPONSIBILITY. I HAVE WATCHED MY CHILD GROW IN RESPONSIBILITY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, JUST IN LEADERSHIP WITHIN THE BAND, AND I THINK THAT'S PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THE PROGRAM ITSELF AND THE.

AND SO I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AND SEE HOW GREAT AND WONDERFUL OUR PROGRAM IS AND HOW INVESTING IN OUR PROGRAM IS ALSO GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP LEADERS THAT ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO LIVE AND MAYBE ONE DAY SIT IN THE SAME SEATS YOU'RE SITTING IN TODAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OKAY. MAY I HAVE THE SPEAKER CARDS, PLEASE? LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION.

FIRST, BEFORE WE ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.

I KNOW THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO GO THROUGH FOR A $5,000 GRANT OR A 1000 OR A 10,000.

AND WE PUT YOU THROUGH THE PACES. APOLOGIES FOR THAT.

WE ARE SHIFTING GEARS THIS YEAR, AND WE'LL SEE HOW THIS GOES NEXT YEAR.

BUT I, I WANT TO KIND OF PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES. THE RULES ALWAYS ALLOWED FOR THIS COMMISSION TO HAVE FINAL SAY ON WHETHER WE AGREED WITH THE AMOUNT BEING GIVEN.

SO IF YOU APPLY FOR 5000, DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET 5000, ALTHOUGH MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY IT'S KIND OF GONE.

AND SO AS OF THE LAST MEETING WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS, IT CERTAINLY WAS NOT LOST ON ME THAT ON THIS TRANSITION YEAR, IF IN FACT, THIS IS A TRANSITION YEAR, WE'RE TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL AND THOUGHTFUL TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T JUST RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER THOSE WHO HAVE HAVE HAD SOME FAITH IN IN WHAT THIS CITY PROVIDES FOR THESE PARTICULAR ENDEAVORS.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK.

SOME OF YOU THE THIRD TIME TO SPEAK. AND WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP.

IF COMMISSIONERS, IF I KNOW YOU ALREADY HAVE A QUESTION FOR ONE.

SO I'LL JUST START WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER RING.

YEAH. YEAH THEY DO. IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET THE RECORDING.

SO THE QUESTION, I HAVE. MY MIC ON. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND GRANTING MONEY TO THE FLETCHER BAND IS WE'RE THE OTHER CITIES IN MEETING OUR OR MATCHING OUR DONATION.

I GUESS WE HAD THE PERCEPTION THAT IN YEARS PAST THEY HADN'T.

AND SO WHAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT, WRONG AND DIFFERENT.

WE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US HAD THAT. AND SO WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT NEPTUNE BEACH AND JACKSONVILLE BEACH WERE AT LEAST BEING ASKED AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZED TO MATCH, YOU KNOW.

THEY HAVE BEEN. PUTTING UP. HOWEVER ATLANTIC BEACH IS UNIQUE AND HAVING A GRANT PROGRAM THAT FOCUSES ON ARTS AND RECREATION.

IF THERE, YOU CAN BE ASSURED THAT IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR FUNDS FOR THE OTHER CITIES, THAT WE WOULD BE FIRST IN LINE. WE DON'T LEAVE ANY STONE UNTURNED.

WE GET ALL SORTS OF STUFF. LET ME ADDRESS THAT NOW BECAUSE THEY DON'T.

UNFORTUNATELY FOR OUR COMMUNITY, NEITHER OF THE OTHER TWO CITIES HAVE A FORMAL GRANT PROGRAM.

WE DO. BUT SPECIFICALLY, IT WAS TWO DAYS AGO I CONFIRMED WITH MAYOR BYLUND IN NEPTUNE BEACH THAT IF YOU WILL MARCH ON DOWN TO NEPTUNE BEACH, THEY WILL PRESENT YOU WITH A CHECK.

OH, AWESOME. AND I'VE TALKED TO CHRIS, AND SHE THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THEIR BUDGET PROGRAM, AND SHE DOESN'T SEEM. OKAY, HOW LONG AGO? MAYBE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE'S. OLD NEWS. SHE'S. OLD NEWS.

I'VE BEEN. YES, I'VE BEEN LOBBYING ALL OF HER COUNCIL PEOPLE.

OKAY. YOU SHOULD GO. YOU SHOULD GO EITHER DIRECTLY TO MAYOR HOFFMAN OR GO TO ANY OF THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS THEY ARE READY TO TALK ABOUT AND POTENTIALLY FUND A MATCH. OKAY, I WILL SHOW UP TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND TALK TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME.

THIS TIME. COMING. IN NEPTUNE BEACH THERE IS NO FORMAL PROCESS.

SO I WOULD REACH OUT TO CITY MANAGER RICKY PIKE.

OKAY IF YOU DON'T REACH HIM, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO THE MAYOR COREY BYLUND.

BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE MATCH AND MAYBE TWO.

SO GOOD LUCK. AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT WE'RE RATIFY THE THE 5000 TODAY THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED BEFORE.

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RIGHT. YOU'LL SEE THAT SHORTLY. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT I REALLY DO HAVE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED IT LAST TIME.

IT'S NOT A MATTER OF NOT WANTING TO FUND. IT'S A MATTER THAT WHEN IT COMES TO FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL, WE'RE HOLDING OUR SISTER CITIES ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE A GRANT PROGRAM WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED TODAY AND, YOU KNOW, I EVEN RECOGNIZED JACK'S SPEECH, COUNCILMAN. WHO WAS HERE LAST TIME WHO CAME IN.

SO I KNOW THEY HAVE. YEAH. AND THEY ARE A BAND, SO HE KNOWS HOW THIS WORKS.

SO JUST AS YOU'VE BROUGHT IT ON HERE, WE ARE ASKING, OR AT LEAST I AM, THAT YOU DO THE SAME WITH THE OTHER TWO.

AND THAT'S WITH THE FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL BAND.

I MEAN, IN CONTINUUM, YEAR OVER YEAR, WE HAVE PROVIDED, WHAT, 10,000? I THINK YOU SAID FOR 5 YEARS IN A ROW. IT'S FOUR YEARS IN A ROW, THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH IN A ROW.

AND IT IS MONEY WELL SPENT. AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IS FOR OUR SISTER CITIES TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE, TOO.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE HAD TWICE WITH US OVER AT NEPTUNE BEACH AND AT JAX BEACH.

AND THEY CAN. ABSOLUTELY. AND MAYOR CHRIS HOFFMAN WAS AN ALUMNI, BAND MEMBER ALUMNI.

MAYOR BYLUND HAS A SON OR A CHILD WHO GOES TO FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL, AS DO I.

SO WE'RE ALL PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. AND SO JUST NOT TO BEAT THE DEAD HORSE HERE THAT COMMISSIONER GRANT AND MAYOR FORD HAS ALREADY MENTIONED.

THIS REALLY ISN'T A MATTER OF HOLDING BACK FROM YOU.

IT'S A MATTER OF HOLDING THE OTHER TWO TO THAT SAME STANDARD.

I APPRECIATE THAT, AND I AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS NOT PENALIZE THE KIDS FOR WHAT THE OTHER TWO CITIES WILL OR WON'T DO. I'M SORRY THAT YOU SEE IT AS A PENALTY.

NOT A PENALTY. I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HOLD THE OTHER TWO CITIES ACCOUNTABLE, THAT YOU MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION WITHOUT IT BEING BASED ON WHAT OTHER TWO CITY GOVERNMENTS DECIDE TO DO BECAUSE THE BAND KIDS DON'T HAVE.

I MEAN, WE WILL GO AND ABSOLUTELY ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF THERE IN REHEARSAL 650 HOURS A YEAR, SO. YEAH, YOU KNOW, AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT ISN'T A PENALTY AT ALL.

IT'S NOT A PENALTY AT ALL. BUT THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED ANY ZERO.

SO ARE THEY PENALIZING? WOULD YOU SAY THAT TO THEM_ THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN AVENUE TO DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT. THEY DO JUST THE SAME FORUM THAT YOU BROUGHT IT HERE, YOU COULD BRING IT THERE. AND THEY HAVE JUST AS MUCH REASON TO INVEST IN FLETCHER HIGH SCHOOL AS WE DO. SURE.

AND I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS. IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT YOU'VE BEEN FUNDING, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STAND UP A WHOLE MIDDLE SCHOOL GUARD PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FUND WITHOUT THE FUNDS FROM ATLANTIC BEACH. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH, YOU GOT A QUESTION JUST FOR NOT NOT TO YOU.

OKAY. CONVERSATION. YEAH. I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT THIS COMMISSION VOTED TO LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE THIS YEAR OR NOT THE THE SAME MILLAGE RATE AS LAST YEAR.

AND I BRING THAT POINT UP BECAUSE I'M FOR ALL THIS STUFF.

I WOULD LOVE TO FUND EVERYTHING. I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD AN ISSUE ABOUT WHAT DUVAL COUNTY THEORETICALLY SHOULD FUND AND WHAT THEY SHOULDN'T.

SO MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE TO THE CITY MANAGER, SHOULD WE GO THROUGH WITH THESE PROGRAMS? I'D LIKE TO RACK AND STACK AGAINST THE PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY SET.

IN OTHER WORDS, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THEM ALL.

LET'S PUT A NUMBER ATTACHED TO THEM SO THAT WHEN WE DO FUND THEM, WE KNOW WHICH PRIORITY IT IS.

BUT I'M LIKE I SAID, I'LL GO ON RECORD THAT I THINK THIS STUFF IS GREAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND PUT THEM IN THE QUEUE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE VOTED ON. THANKS. OH YEAH. SO THE COMMISSION SET ASIDE $20,000 FOR THE SCHOOLS AND THEY HAVEN'T, AS AT THIS POINT, ALTERED THAT. SO THERE'S $20,000 THAT'S BUDGETED IN THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S NOT ALLOCATED TO A SPECIFIC GRANT YET.

SO THIS WON'T IMPACT POTENTIAL CAPITAL PROJECTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND YOU'LL SEE IF WE GET TO THE ACTUAL BUDGET PART OF IT.

ACTUALLY, THAT WHAT THE COMMISSION DID WAS WE HAD FLETCHER IN THERE AS A STANDALONE, AND WE TOOK THAT OUT AND MADE IT PART OF THE 20,000 FOR SCHOOLS OVERALL.

OKAY, THANKS. SO WE DID DO THAT. THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION.

I THOUGHT THE STANDALONE FLETCHER HIGH BAND NUMBER WAS STILL IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET BEFORE WE STARTED PLAYING WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXCESS. AND WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE 20.

SO THAT THAT WAS PULLED IN WE 100% POSITIVE OF THAT.

YEAH. SO YEAH THERE'S THERE'S 20,000. THERE ISN'T 5000 IN WHAT WE WERE CALLING THE ENHANCEMENTS FOR FLETCHER ANYMORE.

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IT'S 20,000 FOR ALL SCHOOLS. OKAY. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER. TO ASK FLETCHER MIDDLE SCHOOL OR I'M SORRY, MAYPORT MIDDLE SCHOOL TO COME UP.

I THINK THE TWO ARE SEPARATE. ONE IS SHARK BITES AND THE OTHER IS ROBOTICS.

BUT THEN I'M THROWN OFF BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS REPRESENTING WHAT.

YEAH, BUT DID WE. SO WE'RE FUNDING THE SHARK BITES, EVERYTHING BESIDES THE 1000, AND THEN THE ROBOTICS EVERYTHING BESIDES THE FOUR. AND SO WHAT WOULD THE 1000 BRING YOU, PRINCIPAL.

WOULD THAT BE THE SHARK BITES? I BELIEVE SO, SO IT USED TO BE A LUMP SUM, AND THEN WE SEPARATED IT AND WE TOOK THAT ALLOCATION OF MONEY AND WE GAVE IT TO ROBOTICS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED SOME FOR THEIR TRAVEL EXPENSES.

AND SO WE KIND OF TOOK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE TRANSITION CAMP TO THE ROBOTICS.

SO SO WE'RE APPLYING FOR THE KIND OF SAME GRANT BUT JUST TWO ENTITIES ESSENTIALLY.

AND THEN FOR THE ROBOTICS, THAT'S A HUGE DIVE FROM 1 TO 4000.

THAT WOULD BE, AND WHAT WOULD WHAT IS THAT COSTING YOU THIS YEAR TO NOT HAVE THAT EXTRA 4000? SO WE'VE ESTIMATED THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE ABOUT $20,000 TO GET OUR TEAM TO INTERNATIONALS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PAY ALL THE FLIGHT COSTS HAVE GONE UP, ALL OF THE GRAND RENTAL COSTS HAVE GONE UP, ALL OF THE HOTEL COSTS HAVE GONE UP. IT'S AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND. SO THE DISTRICT PAYS FOR THE REGISTRATION FEE, BUT THEN TRANSPORTATION, HOTEL, AIRFARE IS ON THE TEAM TO PAY FOR THAT.

SO IT'S 4000 LESS THAN WHAT YOU HAD THERE. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE KIDS WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT REGIONAL.

IS THAT WHAT. I'M NOT SURE. WE'RE STILL SEEKING OUT CORPORATE SPONSORS.

WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE. YEAH. EVERY BIT HELPS US GET ONE STEP CLOSER TO TAKING EVERYONE TO INTERNATIONAL.

AND YOU'RE JUST NOW FINDING OUT. AND DID YOU BANK ON THAT THIS YEAR? TO TAKE THE KIDS? YES. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF AND THEY DO A LOT OF FUNDRAISING AND RECRUITING.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES FOR THE ROBOTICS THAT COME IN, THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT. OKAY. SEE THANK YOU.

AND I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE FELLOW COMMISSIONERS I'M MORE INCLINED TO.

I'M MORE INCLINED TO SUPPORT THEM FROM THE 4000 IN FULL, BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THERE ISN'T JACK'S BEACH THAT'S FEEDING INTO IT. THERE ISN'T NEPTUNE BEACH THAT'S FEEDING INTO IT.

I LOOK AT OUR ENHANCEMENT LIST AND I SEE TENS OF THOUSANDS GOING TO ALL SORTS OF THINGS. YOU KNOW, EVEN THE 250 CELEBRATION, WE'RE DOING 20,000.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE 4000 FULL.

WE'LL GET TO THAT. HOW MUCH DID YOU RECEIVE LAST YEAR? 2000 FOR THE ROBOTICS? I THINK IT WAS THREE FOR ROBOTICS.

IT WAS 7000 FOR THE ENRICHMENT CAMP AND THEN 3000 FOR THE ROBOTICS.

OKAY. I BELIEVE IS WHAT WE WERE AWARDED. AND I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT ROBOTICS IS MUCH SMALLER GROUP, RIGHT? THERE'S A 6TH, 7TH AND 8TH GRADE TEAM CONSISTING OF ABOUT FOUR EACH, SO ABOUT 16 TO 20 MEMBERS ON THE TEAM.

YEAH. AND BY THE WAY, I'VE FORGOT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

YOU HAVE A REALLY GOOD ROBOTICS CLUB. BUT I DO HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW MANY ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS ARE IN THE ROBOTICS CLUB? I AM SO SORRY, I DON'T. I DID NOT LOOK THAT UP BEFORE I CAME HERE.

I APOLOGIZE, I MEANT TO. SO LAST YEAR IT WAS ZERO.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE. THERE WERE SOME IN.

ATLANTIC BEACH AND HIS SON WAS ON THE TEAM LAST YEAR.

AND WAS THAT, THAT'S IN ZIP CODE 32233, BUT IS IT ATLANTIC BEACH? YES. WHERE IS? EVEN OUR SCHOOL, OUR ADDRESS IS ATLANTIC BEACH AS WELL.

NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. IN JACKSONVILLE. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BEFORE I CAST A VOTE ON ANYTHING IS I'M SPENDING MY CITIZENS MONEY.

AND SO MY CITIZENS MONEY TYPICALLY DOES NOT GO TO EDUCATION ENDEAVORS THAT MOST CITIES.

SO IF I AM SPENDING MY CITIZENS MONEY, I KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OF MY CITIZENS ARE ATTENDING THE SCHOOL AND IN THE CLUB.

I WILL SAY THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY, THOUGH, IS DEFINITELY FELT.

AND OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE GRADUATED CONTINUE TO MENTOR THE YOUNGER STUDENTS.

AND SO YOU SEE A GENERATION OF KIND OF EXPLORERS.

YOU'VE SOLD ME ON THE MERITS. I GET IT. EDUCATION IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ONE FOR THEM, BUT I DO HAVE ONE FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BILL, I REMEMBER US REDUCING ARTS BUDGET, GRANT BUDGET.

WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER? SO WE TOOK A $10,000. THEY WERE ORIGINALLY AT 70.

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THAT IT'S NOT ARTS BUDGET, BUT IT'S THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY FUNDS AND GRANTS.

75. 75,000. WE TOOK 10,000, OKAY. AND APPROPRIATED ANOTHER 5 AND TOOK THE FLETCHER 5 AND PUT $20,000 IN THE COMMISSION'S BUDGET FOR SCHOOL GRANTS. OKAY.

AND HOW MUCH DID THEY ACTUALLY END UP BOOKING OR COMMITTING TO? THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED 65,000. AND THIS COMMISSION PASSED A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE 65.

RIGHT. SO WE'VE GOT THE INDIVIDUAL, NOT JUST THE 65,000, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL AWARDEES.

SO, TEAM, I WANT YOU GUYS TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 60,000 PLUS NOW 20,000.

OH, WAIT, WAS IT 65? 65 PLUS 20, WHICH IS 85.

WHICH IS 10,000 MORE THAN IT WAS EVEN ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.

SO WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND THIS, WE SEEM TO BE LOSING SIGHT OF THE NUMBER.

SO TODAY YOUR NUMBER IS 20,000. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT IN THE BUDGET.

OR LEAVE IT THE SAME. IN WHICH CASE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THESE REQUESTS? BECAUSE YOU HAVE 25,000? YES. UNDERSTOOD. BUT BILL DIDN'T.

WHAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE SENT TO ALL SCHOOLS, WHETHER IT'S MAYPORT, ABE OR FLETCHER LAST YEAR? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN 20 OR RIGHT AT 20, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T EVEN GIVE ANYTHING TO ABE LAST YEAR.

THEY DID NOT GIVE ANYTHING TO ABE. IT WAS 10,000 TO FLETCHER.

IT WAS 10,000 TO MAYPORT MIDDLE. AND THAT WOULD BE IT.

THAT WAS IT. OKAY. SO IT WAS 20,000 IN TOTAL.

AND SO WHILE I'M TRYING TO, MY MISSION IS NOT TO KILL THE PROGRAM THAT'S UP TO THIS BODY OF 5 PEOPLE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO.

AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONE ON RECORD TO KILL FUNDING FOR EDUCATION.

BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO GROW IT. I THINK WE'RE UNIQUE IN SMALL CITIES OF 13,000 RESIDENTS TO HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY GOING TO EDUCATION. SO YOU GUYS NEED TO TO PUT YOUR ARMS AROUND THIS AND COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION, SO. MAYOR, EVEN AS IT STANDS, WE WOULD STILL BE AT 25 AT THE AMOUNT THAT'S RECOMMENDED, THE 10,000 TO ABE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT'S RECOMMENDED. I'M NOT ACCEPTING RECOMMENDED.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. YES. YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT.

SO WHAT HAS BEEN ASKED IS 35,000. THAT'S BEEN WHAT, THAT IS WHAT'S REQUESTED.

BUT WHAT IS RECOMMENDED IS THAT 25,000. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE WITH THAT. BECAUSE MAYPORT HAS ASKED FOR 15 AND THEN FLETCHER HIGH HAS ASKED FOR 10.

IT'S THE HIGHLIGHTED. SO I'M GOING TO JUST COMMENT ON THE FLETCHER HIGH.

THE FLETCHER HIGH ULTIMATELY MAY BE 10 THROUGH THE MATCH FROM NEPTUNE BEACH, AND IT ACTUALLY MAY GROW BY 50% TO 15,000 IF THEY GET JAX BEACH ON BOARD. SO FOR OUR PURPOSES WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DELTA BETWEEN.

WE HAVE A DELTA BETWEEN WHAT'S RECOMMENDED AND WHAT WAS REQUESTED WHICH IS 5000.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 30 AND 25, I BELIEVE. AND THEN WE HAVE A DELTA BETWEEN WHAT WAS REQUESTED AND WHAT WE, AND WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED AND WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE BUDGETED OF UP TO 10,000 BECAUSE WE BUDGETED 20.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THOSE $20,000 IN THE CITY COMMISSION'S BUDGET TO TO GIVE OUT GRANTS TO SCHOOLS. SO DID YOU SAY THAT WE DID PROVIDE MAYPORT MIDDLE WITH 10,000 LAST YEAR, NOT 15.

SO THE REQUEST THIS YEAR IS FOR 15, BUT LAST YEAR THEY MADE IT ON 10.

THAT'S CORRECT OKAY. YOU HAVE THE NUMBERS KEVIN.

YES. JUST A SLIGHT CORRECTION TO THAT NUMBER.

LAST YEAR. I'M KEVIN HOGENCAMP, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

MAYPORT MIDDLE RECEIVED 7500 FOR SHARK BITES AND 3500 FOR ROBOTICS.

OTHERWISE, FLETCHER BAND. SO IT'S 11 TOTAL FOR MAYPORT MIDDLE LAST YEAR? YES, AND ANOTHER 10 FOR FLETCHER. 21 TOTAL FOR SCHOOLS.

OKAY, THANKS. THANKS. SO WE COULD GO AHEAD AND JUST START OFF AND TAKE ONE AT A TIME AND SAY WHAT NUMBER AND THEN GET TO THE END.

AND IF WE'RE OVER, THEN COME BACK AND DO IT AGAIN.

WE CAN DO THAT. DO YOU WANT ME. DO YOU WANT US TO RECOMMEND A NUMBER FOR EACH AT THE SAME TIME.

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I THINK YOU HAVE TO JUST GIVE A NUMBER TO EACH.

I'LL START. OKAY. START SOMEWHERE. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO TAKE THE 20 AND GIVE MAYPORT 7500.

ABE 7500 AND FLETCHER BAND 5000. AND THE REASON THE NUMBER FOR FLETCHER IS 5, BECAUSE WE ARE GIVING THAT WITH CONFIDENCE THAT OUR SISTER CITIES ARE GOING TO MATCH THAT, IN WHICH CASE THEIR TOTAL DRAW FROM THE CITIES.

AND THIS HAS BEEN RESEARCHED BY MAYOR FORD DILIGENTLY, I MAY ADD, THAT THEIR TOTAL CONTRIBUTION WILL GO FROM 10 TO 15, AS YOU JUST SAID, A 50% INCREASE. SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO COMMENTS, I'LL JUST COMMENT.

I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING MAYPORT MIDDLE AS WELL.

AND I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION ON ROBOTICS, BUT THE REQUEST HERE IS A THOUSAND, NOT 3000.

SO I GET IT. BUT ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY, I FEEL LIKE I'M A BROKEN RECORD.

IS THE ONLY DUVAL COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL LOCATED IN THE PHYSICAL VICINITY, THE BOUNDARIES OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

AND THE CITIZENS ACTUALLY USED THE SCHOOL GROUNDS.

THEY SKIPPED A WHOLE YEAR WITH NO FUNDING LAST YEAR.

WE ALL KNOW THE STORY, BUT THAT'S OLD NEWS. AND AND THE PERSON WHO'S MANAGING THAT TODAY IS SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US.

AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB ON PRESENTATION, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, BUT NOT BEING ABLE TO WAIT TO KNOW WHETHER WE WERE FUNDING, THEY'VE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY REFURBISHING THE TRACK THIS YEAR THAT WE ALSO HELPED FUND INITIALLY.

SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF REDUCING ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE OUR STARTING AND REFERENCE POINT IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE MONEY TO SCHOOLS, WE SHOULD FIRST TAKE CARE OF THE ONE THAT'S LOCATED IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

SURE. YES, SIR. JUST A COMMENT. COMMISSIONER GRANT, IF WE'RE GOING AROUND THE ROOM I AGREE WITH HIM IN IN PRINCIPLE.

I'M A 5000 MAYPORT, 7500 FLETCHER AND 7500 ABE.

THANKS.

YES. KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THAT SO WE CAN MAYBE SEE WHAT.

WELL, IN A MINUTE, WE'LL PROBABLY LIKE. WE'LL PROBABLY ENTERTAIN A MOTION SHORTLY.

SOMEBODY WILL NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. BECAUSE THIS, BECAUSE THIS HAS CHANGED JUST A TAD.

AND WITH MAYPORT HAVING RECEIVED 11,000. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM 11,000 THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR DESIGNATED MIDDLE SCHOOL. I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ABE OUR 10,000.

AND I WON'T REITERATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID MAYOR ABOUT ABE, BUT I AM IN COMPLETE ALIGNMENT WITH YOU IN THAT ONE.

OUR CITIZENS DO PAY TAXES, AND THEY UTILIZE THAT SPACE.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO FLETCHER BAND, I WANT TO SEE ALL OF THE ALL OF THE ZEST AND ZEAL THAT'S BROUGHT ON US AND THE PRESSURE TO BE BROUGHT ON TO OUR SISTER CITIES.

SO I WOULD GO WITH 5 FOR FLETCHER HIGH. MAYPORT MIDDLE 11 AND ABBY 10.

COMMISSIONER YOU HAVEN'T SAID A WORD. THAT DOESN'T ADD UP TO 20,000.

NO, IT ADDS UP TO 21. I WANT TO TAKE. THAT WAS 25 OR 26.

7. 10. 5. YEAH. THAT YOUR CARD IS DECLINED. WAIT.

NO. A LOVE. OH, YEAH. THAT WOULD BE OKAY. WELL, 11 AND THEN 21.

SO THEN 26. WHEN WE PULL THAT 26 SOMEWHERE ELSE.

SO I'M GOING TO BEFORE WE BEFORE WE GET THE FINAL COMMENTS AND THEN GET A MOTION.

I'M SORRY I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOU. YOU YOU'RE YOU HAVE REQUESTS FROM MAYPORT MIDDLE OF 15,000.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY EVER GETTING 15,000. SO THAT'S A REQUEST.

EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU PUT IT IN YOUR REQUEST AND YOU GET SOMETHING HOPEFULLY THAT'S CLOSE TO IT.

BUT THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING 15. AND AT TODAY'S DISCUSSION I DON'T THINK THEY'RE EXPECTING 11.

BUT JUST SAYING. FURTHER COMMENTS. YES, COMMISSIONER.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GRANT AND WHICH RESTATE WHAT YOU SAID THERE WAS 75, 75 AND 5000.

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OKAY. I REMEMBER. I WROTE IT DOWN. THIS IS NOT A VERY SOPHISTICATED METHOD HERE. SO YEAH.

SO. WELL, BUT ALSO BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE GOING FOR 11, YOU ALREADY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ARC FOR 10. I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO RESPECT THE FACT THAT THEY ALREADY DID THE WORK.

THEY ALREADY MET WITH THESE PEOPLE AND LISTENED.

NO. AND I AGREE WITH THAT, MAYOR. I JUST, I DO THINK THAT MAYPORT MIDDLE SCHOOL DOES DESERVE JUST AS MUCH CREDIT AS ABE, ALTHOUGH I DO SEE THAT ABE, THAT MAYPORT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LINES, BUT THAT'S OUR ZONED MIDDLE SCHOOL.

I GET IT. NO, THEY'RE 32233 ZIP CODE. THANK YOU PRINCIPAL FOR THAT.

I ALREADY KNEW THAT. WE'VE DONE A IF THEY'VE RECEIVED 11 LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WOULD BE ONLY FAIR TO GIVE THEM 11 AGAIN THIS YEAR.

IS THAT WHAT KEVIN HOGENCAMP JUST MENTIONED? 11? I THINK HE SAID THEY GAVE HIM 11, BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MATCH LAST YEAR.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT CUT THE PROGRAM TO ZIP.

OKAY. SO I THINK THERE'S CONCERN BY SOME THAT WE WERE TRYING TO CUT IT OUT ALTOGETHER, AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED THIS CONVERSATION.

THIS BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHANGES AS WE GO AND WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE, WE CAN CHANGE.

BUT WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST CUT YOU COLD TURKEY, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THEM.

YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO CUT AT ALL. YOU'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THEM AT 11 BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY GOT BEFORE.

YES. WELL, JUST AS A, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.

WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE 5000 THAT WAS CONTINGENT ON GETTING A MATCH FROM AT LEAST ONE OF THE OTHER BEACHES.

YES. I MEAN, SO IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL, BUT IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, THEN YOU COULD, AS A BACKUP PLAN, APPROPRIATE OUT THAT ADDITIONAL 5000 TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT ADDITIONAL 5000.

SO IF THEY DON'T GET A MATCH FROM EITHER JAX BEACH OR NEPTUNE, THEN THOSE 5000 THAT YOU COULD AS A BACKUP PLAN DISCUSS TONIGHT AS WELL.

AND THAT MIGHT ADDRESS BOTH YOUR CONCERN AND COMMISSIONERS CONCERN.

YEAH. I'M GOING TO STATE IT FOR HIM. WHAT HE'S SAYING IS WE COULD APPROPRIATE OR WE COULD DESIGNATE $20,000 WORTH OF GRANTS.

WHICH INCLUDES POTENTIALLY THE FLETCHER 5000.

YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS HERE. BUT THEN IF FLETCHER DID NOT GET A MATCH, WE WOULD NOT BE OBLIGATED TO PAY THAT.

IN WHICH CASE WE COULD RE-APPROPRIATE THAT FOR PERHAPS MAYPORT MIDDLE.

YES. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RESOLUTION THAT. MOTION.

A MOTION. I'M SORRY, A MOTION TO CONSIDER MAYPORT 5000, FLETCHER 7500, ABE 7500, CONTINGENT ON THE MATCH FROM SISTER CITY. OKAY, BUT WHY WOULD YOU GO UP ON FLETCHER WHEN THEY'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO GET 15,000? IF THEY GET THE TWO MATCHES. MAKE ANOTHER. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? HEARING NONE. THE MOTION FAILS. THAT WAS QUICK.

ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE. COMMISSIONER GRANTS. I MOVE TO GIVE 75,000 TO MAYPORT MIDDLE, 75,000.

HUNDRED. SORRY. LET ME. THIS IS. THIS IS OF CONCERN.

A COMMA HAS BEEN INSERTED. 75,000, MR. GRANT.

YOU DO IT? YES. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GIVE MAYPORT MIDDLE 7500, ABE 7500 AND FLETCHER BAND 5,000. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

DISCUSSION. YEAH. IS THAT CONTINGENT ON THE MATCHING GRANT? THAT'S NO CONTINGENCY AT ALL. I DIDN'T HEAR CONTINGENCY, OKAY.

BECAUSE I WOULD JUST ASK HIM THE QUESTION. HERE'S MY FEELING ABOUT THAT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I DO WANT THEM TO PUSH.

I DO WANT TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW THE END OF THIS, WHETHER OR NOT THEY GOT IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO THINK HOLDING THEM, HOLDING A CONTINGENCY OVER THEIR HEAD AT THIS LATE DATE IN THE SCHOOL YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE BEST IDEA. WAIT, SO YOU'RE SAYING ELIMINATE THE CONDITION OF THE MATCHING GRANT? YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THAT. JUST BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE.

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WE'VE BEEN. IT'S OKAY. I HAVE USED THAT VERY WELL, I MIGHT SAY, IN GETTING TWO OTHER MAYORS ON BOARD.

WE'LL LEAVE IT IN THEN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE.

OKAY. ALRIGHT, I'LL GO WITH THAT SINCE YOU'VE BEEN DOING ALL THE WORK ON THAT SIDE. SECOND.

WELL, I THINK IT'S BEEN SECONDED. OH, WE CAN AMEND IT TO.

SO LET'S RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION THAT MAYPORT MIDDLE GET 7500, ABE GET 7500, AND FLETCHER BAND GETS 5000. WITH FLETCHER BAND HAVING A CONTINGENCY THAT THEY GET AT LEAST ONE MATCH FROM THE TWO SISTER SCHOOLS. HOW'S THAT? HOW ABOUT THEY GET A $5,000 MATCH? YEAH. FROM EITHER OF THE TWO ENTITIES? YEAH. OR BOTH. SO THAT FLETCHER BAND GETS THE 5000 AND THAT BETWEEN THE TWO SISTER CITIES GET AT LEAST $5,000 MATCH.

SECOND. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND DISCUSSION.

I REALLY JUST WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABE GET THE FULL 10.

I KNOW, ME TOO. SO THAT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE? NO. WELL I DON'T. WHY CAN'T WE PULL THE 2.5 SOMEWHERE ELSE OUT OF OUR ENHANCEMENT SHEET? SO IF THERE IS NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL START THE VOTING.

BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. NAY. SO THAT MOTION CARRIES. SO WE HAVE THE NUMBERS.

WE HAVE 7500 FOR ABE, 7500 FOR MAYPORT MIDDLE TO DECIDE HOW YOU WISH TO SPLIT IT, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT JUST NOW. FAIR ENOUGH. AND THEN 5000 FOR FLETCHER BAND AND FLETCHER BAND PEOPLE.

I'M IN YOUR COURT. AND AND I WILL DO MY DARNDEST TO ENSURE YOU'VE GOT AT LEAST THE MATCH.

BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU FOLLOW UP WITH JAX BEACH AND GET THE ADDITIONAL 5000, IF YOU CAN.

YES. THAT YOU GUYS DO WHAT YOU REQUIRE FOR HOW WE UTILIZE THE FUNDING. I HAVEN'T DONE THE PROCESS. OUR PROCESS? YES. THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. AND THANKS FOR ASKING.

AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT FOLLOW UP SO THAT WE'RE ELIGIBLE IN THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS.

AND, PRINCIPAL THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS TODAY DO CHECK.

AND IF YOU WOULD JUST LET ME KNOW HOW MANY CHILDREN, HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE IN ROBOTICS AND HOW MANY CHILDREN LIVE IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. AND I'M BETTING IT'S AT LEAST A COUPLE.

SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT FOR THE RECORD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS PAST. RIGHT. WE'RE DONE.

OKAY. WITH THAT, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED WITH THAT ITEM.

OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM. NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SCHOOL.

OH, NO. WELL, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH CHANGING THE ENHANCEMENTS AT ALL.

SO. OH. RIGHT. NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS CUT WAS, YEAH PLAZA.

RESULTS BACK. WE HAVE NOT THEY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE CORE SAMPLES TODAY, BUT GIVEN THAT IT'S RAINED, THAT PROBABLY HASN'T HAPPENED.

BUT I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT BY THE END OF THE YEAR THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COME UP WITH THAT MONEY.

IF NOT, WE'LL COME BACK WITH YOU AND WE'LL JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION THEN.

BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO.

BUILD THE.

THESE. YOU KNOW, MAYBE I LIKE PLAZA. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHERE DOES THIS FIT IN THE BIG FOOD CHAIN.

SO NEXT YEAR I'D LIKE THAT'S NUMBER ONE. THAT'S AN A, THAT'S A C WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

IT WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT ADDRESS ANY ENHANCEMENT CHANGES OKAY.

BEAUTIFUL. SO WE'RE GOOD. WITH THAT THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

AND WE'LL RECONVENE IN 10 MINUTES, GIVE OR TAKE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.