READY? YES, SIR. WELCOME, RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS.
[CALL TO ORDER]
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WE'RE GOING. BEFORE WE OPEN THE MEETING, WE'LL START WITH INVOCATION AND PLEDGE.COMISSIONER GRANT. GRACIOUS GOD, AS WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO DISCUSS IMPORTANT MATTERS, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND WISDOM.
HELP US TO LISTEN ATTENTIVELY TO ONE ANOTHER WITH OPEN HEARTS AND MINDS.
IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMISSIONER BOLE.
PRESENT. COMISSIONER GRANT. PRESENT. COMISSIONER KELLY AND COMISSIONER RING.
PRESENT. MAYOR FORD. PRESENT. WE'LL START ON THE AGENDA WITH ITEM ONE.
[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
1.A IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETINGS HELD JANUARY 12TH AND JANUARY 26TH, 2026. DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES? CORRECTIONS? OKAY.HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? WELL, I'LL TAKE A MOTION.
WELL, NO, WE'LL JUST ACCEPT THE MINUTES BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CHANGED. MOVING TO ITEM 1.B APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 24TH, 2026 TOWN HALL MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS HEARING? NONE. THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED. WE'LL MOVE INTO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS COURTESY OF THE FLORIDA VISITORS.
[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]
DONNA, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? NO ROUGH NUMBERS.NINE. NINE. NINE. OKAY. DO WE HAVE OTHERS COMING UP? OKAY. USUALLY AT THAT LEVEL, I. I REDUCE IT TO THREE MINUTES.
BUT I'M GOING TO ASK NOW DO I HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS FROM THE FROM THE GALLERY.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH THAT. THEN WE'RE GOING TO RUN WITH THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT.
AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL OUR FIRST PRESENTER. OKAY.
DAVID PUGH. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, DONNA COMISSIONERS KEVIN, THE ACTING CITY MANAGER, WHICH IS? YOU GOT THE BEST CITY MANAGER IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
I HOPE YOU KNOW, AND ATTORNEY JASON. I DIDN'T KNOW YOUR NAME EXACTLY.
OKAY. TIME OR TIME AFFLUENCE. TIME IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN LIFE HERE ON EARTH.
TIME WITH YOUR LOVED ONES. TIME TO MAKE YOUR POINT.
THAT'S IN THE MATERIAL. MAKE YOUR POINT FIRST.
FIRST, WHEN TALKING, ESPECIALLY WRITING, THE NAVY HAD TO TEACH US OFFICERS HOW TO WRITE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IN THE I'M REALLY DATING MYSELF NOW.
IN THE EARLY 70S, WE MARCHED INTO THE HALL AND AND BIG SURPRISE.
IT'S BECAUSE THE ADMIRALS WERE FED UP WITH OFFICERS IN THE US NAVY DID NOT KNOW HOW TO WRITE, MAINLY THE JUNIOR OFFICERS LIKE ME. I ACTUALLY KNEW HOW TO WRITE BETTER THAN THE OTHER OFFICERS.
I CAN EXPRESS MYSELF IN WRITING MUCH BETTER THAN SPEAKING OR TALKING.
AND TIME TO MAKE YOUR POINT. FIRST, IT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
OKAY? AND SO BEFORE I WASTE ANY MORE OF YOUR VALUABLE TIME, THANK YOU.
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BUT I KNOW HOW OLD IT IS. HEY, IF THIS [INAUDIBLE] IS FIRST, I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN TROUBLE.[INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU, JIM WHEATLEY.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I AM HERE TO ADDRESS THE FINE LINE, WHICH I THINK MAYBE NOT SO FINE WITH ME IN A LOCAL INDIAN LOCAL AGREEMENT. AM I CORRECT THAT THIS IS THE LINE THAT NEPTUNE BEACH NEEDS TO PROCEED WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT? IS THAT A CORRECT ASSUMPTION? I'M SORRY. THE FIRE LINE.
I KNOW THAT EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL ARE ETHICAL INDIVIDUALS.
DOES ANYBODY REALLY WANT MORE CROWDING, MORE TRAFFIC, HIGHER TAXES, AND LIKELY MORE CRIME? THANKS TO DESANTIS 2021, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER PAYS ZERO.
THAT IS ZERO. THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
IT ALL FALLS ON THE TAXPAYERS, THE EXISTING TAXPAYERS AND THE NEW TAXPAYERS.
AND WITH THIS NEW FIASCO PLAN, GOD KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT.
TYPICALLY, DEVELOPERS GREASE MANY LOCAL PALMS IN IN MANY, SOMETIMES DIFFERENT WAYS, SOMETIMES OVERT.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE TURN RED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE CARS AGO.
SPEAKING OF ROUND TERMS, THEIR MILLAGE RATE IS 3.4.
JACKSONVILLE BEACH 4.0. [INAUDIBLE] BEACH IS 2.8 AS A COMPARISON.
THIS WAS NOTED THE OTHER EVENING AT THE BEACHES COMMITTEE FOR THE BETTER BEACHES.
IT'S NOTED THAT THE JACKSONVILLE BEACH REALTOR MAYOR CANNOT SELL OFF JACKSONVILLE BEACH FAST ENOUGH.
UNDER HER DOMAIN. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT. WHY DO THEY HAVE HIGH TAXES? TOO MANY PEOPLE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEPTUNE BEACH ATTORNEY MAYOR DRIVEN TO FOLLOW SUIT.
I SEE THIS THIS FURTHER DEGRADATION AS UNCONSCIONABLE.
BUT IT IS VERY APPLICABLE. MANY PEOPLE CAN. I COME FROM NEW YORK AND ORLANDO? AND YOU GOT CROWDED AND CROWDED AND CROWDED. I MEAN, LIFE IS NOT GOOD.
AT SOME POINT YOU GOTTA STOP. AND I'VE SEEN FLORIDA BEACHES JUST OVERWHELMED WITH PEOPLE.
I'M A REALIST. I REALIZE TIME AND TIME AGAIN CITY COMMISSIONS CAN RATIONALIZE IT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN RATIONALIZE GIVING INTO THESE LAND RAPISTS IN GOOD CONSCIENCE.
PS. KEVIN SHOULD BE CITY MANAGER HE IS THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON FOR THE JOB, PERIOD.
THANK YOU, MR. WHEATLEY. KEN SIMON.
THREE MINUTES. MAYOR, COMISSIONERS, I'M HERE TO TALK TODAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION PROJECTS AND THE ONGOING BUSINESS, AND SHARE SOME OF MY CONCERNS. FIRST, MY WIFE AND I, WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR REALLY PROUD RESIDENTS OF ATLANTIC BEACH.
WE'RE EQUALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE CITY HAS A DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THOSE PLANS ARE CARRIED OUT IN A MANNER THAT WE PROTECT OUR CITIZENS, KEEP THEM SAFE, KEEP THEIR PROPERTY SAFE, AND PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES DURING THOSE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
I BELIEVE TONIGHT ON THE DOCKET, WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS OVER A RESOLUTIONS THAT AFFECTS SOME LIFT STATIONS, AND IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT WE DO RESIDENT NOTIFICATIONS IN THOSE PLANS.
SO PLEASE I EMPHASIZE IF WE CAN EXECUTE THOSE PROPERLY, AS THAT HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN AN ISSUE.
THIS WEEK I HAD A MEETING WITH OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, AND I BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE HERE, OR AT LEAST THE COMISSIONERS, HAVE RECEIVED AN IMPACT ASSESSMENT OF THE PROJECTS ON 20TH STREET.
MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS WERE AT LEAST OVERVIEWED AND YOU WERE COMMUNICATED WHAT WAS BEING LOOKED AT.
THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT WE KNOW WEREN'T IN THERE, AND SOME DETAILS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING, AND I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THOSE TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS THE FACT THAT PERMITS WERE PULLED ON THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION,
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AND UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE INCORRECT. THEY WERE INCOMPLETE.THEY LACKED INFORMATION AND SPECIFICATION AS A PERMIT WOULD REQUIRE.
SO SO THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION. YET IT WAS SIGNED, APPROVED.
I REALLY ASKED THIS COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THEY LOOK AT THAT TO A GREAT DEGREE, AND THAT'S LOOKED INTO TO POSSIBLY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, AS ACCOUNTABLE AS YOU WOULD HOLD RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.
ANOTHER ISSUE OF CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS THAT WE HAD SOMEONE ATTENDING THAT WAS A NON CITY EMPLOYEE, RICK CARPER. DON'T DON'T KNOW WHO THAT, WHY THAT PERSON WAS THERE.
IT WAS EXPLAINED THEY MIGHT BE THERE FOR SOME CONSULTATION SERVICES.
HE WAS A NON CITY EMPLOYEE. BUT WE'RE CONCERNED THAT WHY WASN'T THE CITY ENGINEER OR OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THESE PROJECTS, POSSIBLY AT THAT MEETING, BEING INVOLVED IN EXECUTING SOME OF OUR CONCERNS.
MAKE SURE I COVER EVERYTHING HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE A RESOLUTION 2623 ON THE DOCKET.
DUE TO JUST MY RECENT MEETINGS WITH THAT, WITH THE PERSON INVOLVED IN THAT RESOLUTION, THE REQUEST FOR A CITY MANAGEMENT POSITION, I CAN'T AT LEAST SAY THAT THE PEOPLE IN THAT ROOM IN THAT MEETING HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO EXECUTE AN ADAPTATION PLAN WITH TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FUTURE PROJECTS. IT REQUIRES A HIGH LEVEL OF TECHNICAL EXPERTISE.
IT REQUIRES A BACKGROUND IN SOME OF THESE ADAPTATION PLANS POINT OF ORDER.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. SIMON.
YES, SIR. NO, WE HIT THE LIMIT. THANK YOU. BRENDA.
SIMON. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS AS I TRY TO SCROLL THROUGH ON MY PHONE. FIRST TIME I'VE HAD TO DO THAT.
I'M MARRIED TO KEN, AND I'M HERE ABOUT THE LIFT STATION AS WELL.
WE'RE STILL WAITING TO MEET WITH ONE MORE COMISSIONER.
AND THE PROPANE TANK WAS GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON 12 INCH BY 12 INCH BLOCKS.
THAT'S WHERE THE PROJECT STARTED. WE'RE IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PLACE NOW.
NOTHING. SO WE'RE HERE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
TO NOT HAVE TO TAKE UP THE TIME HERE AND COME EVERY WEEK.
WE WOULD RATHER WORK DIRECTLY WITH STAFF WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, KEVIN, BECAUSE THIS WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND I DID FEEL A CERTAIN AIR IN THE ROOM AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE.
THERE COULD BE LEARNINGS. AND THEN IT JUST FELT UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO I'M JUST GOING TO THROW OUT TO YOU GUYS. I FIND IT VERY HARD TO MOVE THROUGH OBJECTIVELY, GET THINGS DONE WHEN YOU HAVE THE FOX IN THE HENHOUSE.
AND I GUESS THE MAIN POINT I'LL HANG MY HAT ON IS WE PRESENTED A LOT OF EVIDENCE.
WE HAD A LOT OF EVIDENCE OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT DONE CORRECTLY. WERE THEY MISTAKES? MAYBE. WERE THEY DONE INTENTIONALLY? I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S NOT MY JOB, BUT MY JOB IS TO PRESENT IT.
AND I WOULD EXPECT THAT SOMEBODY WOULD DO A FULL REVIEW TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT WRONG.
THE ONLY WAY YOU LEARN TO GET BETTER AND TIGHTEN UP YOUR PROCESSES, IF YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR WEAK LINKS ARE AND IT DIDN'T COME UP AS AN ACTION ITEM, SO I DO [INAUDIBLE] KEVIN. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, ON YOUR SUMMARY.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT I FEEL LIKE WE NEED A REALLY STRONG CITY MANAGER.
WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO CAN COME IN HERE, TAKE CHARGE THAT THAT HAS A FRESH EYE, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDS EVERY ASPECT OF THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE IF NOT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY IN LETTING EVERYBODY DO WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO AND JUST APPROVING IT OR JUST DELEGATING, AND THIS IS NOT WORKING. THIS PROCESS WITH THE SOLICITATION IS SO BROKEN THAT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND,
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BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU ONLY KNOW THREE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, FIVE MORE MINUTES.AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SIMON.
MITCH REEVES. MAYOR, AS MAYOR SINCE YOU RUN THE MEETING AND EVERYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I GO OVER. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND JUST LET ME KNOW, AND I'LL SHUT UP.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
I CALL IT THE PREMATURE RESOLUTION THAT WAS HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY A COMISSIONER BOLE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND IT'S 26-33 AND I'M NOT HERE BECAUSE I'M AGAINST KEVIN OR ANYTHING.
KEVIN'S GOT TEN YEARS OF HERE, BUT I WANT TO JUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME EXPERIENCE THAT I HAD WHEN WE WERE PLACING ONE IS, I WENT TO KEVIN WHEN HE WAS OUR INTERIM, AND I SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THE CITY MANAGER? HIS EXACT WORDS WAS TO ME WAS, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU ASK ME, BUT NO, SIR, I THINK YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
FIND THE RIGHT ONE. YOU'LL FIND SOMEBODY THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER THAN I AM.
I THINK HE SUPPORTS THAT TODAY. I DON'T THINK HE CHANGES THAT.
SO I HAVE TO SAY SO I'M NOT. IT'S NOT ANYTHING I'M SAYING IS AGAINST KEVIN.
WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THE HIRING THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, AND AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ALL IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND IT'S YOUR FIVE.
THE MISTAKE I MADE AS MAYOR IS I ALLOWED HR TO GET INVOLVED, TO TAKE ALL THE APPLICATIONS, TAKE CHARGE BECAUSE I WAS THINKING OF AN HR DEPARTMENT IN A COMPANY.
I, I RECOMMEND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL RECONSIDER THAT AT THIS POINT AND GO AND HAVE ALL RESUMES SENT DIRECTLY TO ONE OF THE EMPLOYEES THAT REPORT TO YOU DIRECTLY, WHICH WOULD BE THE CLERK.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS THIS THE BUDGET HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH.
WHEN I WAS MAYOR, IT WAS ONLY AROUND 31, $31 MILLION.
YOU'RE AT YOU'RE AT $56.7 MILLION. I KNOW THAT'S TEN YEARS, BUT YOU'RE, YOU HOLD A RISK, I THINK YOU HOLD A RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL OF US AS TAXPAYERS TO GO OUT AND FIND THE BEST PERSON.
AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, A SMALL AMOUNT FOR A GOOD SEARCH FIRM IS A PEANUTS COMPARED TO THE BUDGET WE HAVE EVERY DAY. SO LET'S GO GET THE RIGHT ONE. AND THEN MAYBE AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A 5 OR 6 OR 7, IT COULD BE A SEVEN MONTH PROCESS. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHO ELSE WOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITIES TO BE SITTING IN THE SEAT AS A CITY MANAGER AND MAKE RESPONSIBILITIES TO SHOW YOU ON THE JOB TRAINING AND WHAT HE'S CAPABLE OF DOING.
THAT IS A PLUS FOR KEVIN THAT'S A PLUS FOR YOU, BECAUSE IF YOU EVER HIRED AN EMPLOYEE 90 DAYS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET UNTIL AFTER 90. THAT'S ALL.
AND LET ME GO BEFORE. THANK YOU. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE QUESTIONED BY THE COMMISSION.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. MICHAEL KULICH.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMISSIONERS, CITY STAFF AND CITY MANAGER.
MY NAME IS MIKE KULICH AND I LIVE ON SHERRY DRIVE.
I THINK WE SHARED THAT LAST MONTH. AND THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE RECENT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING REPORT, I MEAN, I TRULY APPRECIATE IT. AND I THINK OTHERS REFLECT THAT SENTIMENT.
I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT AND REITERATE WHY SOME OF US FEEL THE REPORT THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC SAFETY REPORT I THINK THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT WENT OUT AND COMPILED I THINK SOME OF US FEEL THAT WHILE IT'S DEFINITELY HELPFUL AT ESTABLISHING A BASELINE WE.
I DO FEEL THAT IT DOES NOT FULLY ADDRESS THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT PROMPTED THE PETITION.
THE ISSUE ON SHERRY DRIVE IS NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEDESTRIANS CROSS.
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IT UNDERSCORES HOW THE CURRENT DESIGN OF THE ROAD LEAVES LITTLE MARGIN FOR ERROR.AND TRUTHFULLY, WITH THE INCREASED VOLUMES AND SPEEDS, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE BEACH COMMUNITY STREET WHERE THERE'S SCHOOLS, CHURCHES AND WHERE OUR NEIGHBORS WALK THEIR DOGS.
THE REPORT ITSELF RELIES HEAVILY ON 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED METHOD AND SHORT DATA COLLECTION WINDOWS.
NATIONAL GUIDANCE. I'M SORRY. THIS APPROACH, IN MY OPINION, CAN MASK THE REAL RISK, ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE AVOID CROSSING AT OUR CROSSWALKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE BECAUSE THEY FEEL UNSAFE. LOW PEDESTRIAN COUNTS CAN OFTEN MEAN AVOIDANCE, NOT LOW DEMAND. THE REPORT DOES SHOW HOW THERE IS SERIOUS SPEEDING AND ITS AND ITS LIMITATIONS, EVEN EVEN SO, ON JULY 20TH 5TH OR 2025, WE HAD 85TH PERCENTILE SPEEDS OF 36 MILES AN HOUR.
SURVIVAL RATES DROPPED SHARPLY AS SPEEDS INCREASE.
WE KNOW THAT AND DISTRACTED DRIVING AGAIN AS WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY.
IT,WE'RE LUCKY WE AVOIDED SERIOUS INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE, BUT ON LUCK ALONE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE SAFETY STRATEGY. SO OVERALL, YOU KNOW, PAINT AND SIGNS WILL NOT ADDRESS OUR ISSUES.
DESIGN BASED SOLUTIONS ARE PROVEN TO REDUCE SPEEDS AND CRASHES SUCH AS RAISED CROSSWALKS, SPEED TABLES, CURB EXTENSIONS, AND SPEED CUSHIONS. IN CLOSING, WHILE THE REPORT OFFERS HELPFUL BASELINE INFORMATION, IT DOES NOT FULLY CAPTURE SAFETY ISSUES, AND I ASK THAT THE CITY PURSUE A DESIGN BASED SOLUTION BEFORE SERIOUS INJURY OCCURS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. KULICH. BRINKLEY HARRELL.
GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COMISSIONERS. STAFF. ATLANTIC BEACH IS A RELATIVELY SAFE COMMUNITY.
AS YOU KNOW, I WAS ON THE STOCK COMMITTEE, AND THEN I CONTINUED ON A LITTLE BIT LONGER AS A SMALLER GROUP WHEN THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO CAME IN, AND, YEAH, WE HAVE WE STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH SPEEDS PARTICULARLY ON PLAZA AND ON SHERRY DRIVE.
ONLY A FEW OF THOSE STREETS HAVE BEEN CORRECTED.
YET THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL STREETS WITH 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON THEM.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE 20 MILES AN HOUR. MOST OF THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ENACTED.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, MOST RECENTLY, ONE YEAR AGO, THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO CAME IN WITH 16 KEY ITEMS. THEY THEN I MET WITH THEM, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE OTHER HOLDOVERS FROM THE STOCK COMMITTEE, AND THEY INCREASED THAT TO 20 ITEMS. PARTICULARLY THEY WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIVE WAY RIGHT HERE AND THE INTERSECTION AT AHERN STREET AND EAST COAST DRIVE IN FRONT OF THE NEW BUILDING THAT HAS A ZERO LOT LINE SETBACKS BECAUSE IT'S COMMERCIAL.
LIKE, TAKE THE MOST RECENT ISSUES ON SHERRY DRIVE.
SHERRY DRIVE IS VERY, VERY WIDE, SO PEOPLE GO FAST.
IF SHERRY DRIVE WAS, THE LANES WERE NARROWED AND PUT A BIKE LANE ON ONE, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE THERE'S ALREADY A MULTI USE PATH ON THE EAST SIDE. PUT A BIKE LANE ON THE WEST SIDE.
MAKE BOTH THOSE LANES THINNER, NARROWER. THAT HAS BEEN SHOWN IN ALL THE STUDIES THAT THAT SLOWS TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'VE GOT A REALLY WIDE LANE LIKE ON SHERRY AND PLAZA FROM SAILFISH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAYPORT ROAD.
THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE THE LANES ARE REALLY WIDE.
IT'S A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED. PEOPLE DO 35 AND 40.
OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, PUT UP THE BIKE LANES, NARROW THE LANE, NARROW, NARROW THE TRAFFIC LANES, PUT IT IN CONSONANCE WITH THE CONNECTIVITY PLAN FROM.
MIGHT NOT SOLVE ALL OF THEM, BUT IT'S A START.
THE OTHER THE OTHER ONE THAT THAT JUST A YEAR AGO THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTED, NORTH FLORIDA TPO TALKED ABOUT MOVING THE STOP LINES ON THE FIVE WAY, AND THAT WOULD GREATLY IMPROVE THE FIVE WAY BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE IS DONE.
AS FAR AS A ROUNDABOUT OR A PEANUT OR WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO CALL THAT.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, AND WE'RE WAY PAST TIME OF DOING THOSE THINGS.
AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MISTER HAROLD. NANCY STOTZ.
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, COMISSIONERS MAYOR COMISSIONER.I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH BRINKLEY AS I ALWAYS DO.
WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THE MONEY. LET'S LET'S GET IT DONE.
THE REST OF MY COMMENTS ARE REALLY GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS AND ALSO THE CITY MANAGER, SINCE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. FIRST, I'M VERY SORRY TO HEAR OF ALL THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS THE FOLKS ON 20TH STREET ARE GOING THROUGH.
I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST AND WE SHOULD DO THAT.
FOR FOLKS LIKE MYSELF AND [INAUDIBLE], WE TRY TO GET TO ZERO ERRORS.
SIX SIGMA, RIGHT? BUT HOW DO YOU FIND YOUR ERRORS? YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIGURE IT OUT. AND THEN I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMMENTS I FIND DISTRESSING WHEN SOMEONE SAYS WE NEED A STRONG WE NEED THE RIGHT ONE. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT KEVIN ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE? KEVIN HAS SO MUCH SUPPORT IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS, FRANKLY, PRETTY DIVIDED ON A LOT OF ISSUES.
AND THIS IS SOMEONE WHO, TIME AFTER TIME, GETS INCREDIBLE ACCOLADES AND POSITIVE FEEDBACK.
AND HE DESERVES A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE HIM 6 TO 9 MONTHS THAT WOULD TAKE US TO DO THIS ANYWAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ONE OVERNIGHT. IT'S GOING TO TAKE 6 TO 9 MONTHS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF ELECTION SEASON. AND THERE WILL BE MANY, MANY ELECTIONS. SO JIM HANSEN CAME AND HE'S AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD AND TOLD US EXPECT IT TO TAKE THAT LONG.
AND SINCE WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES RECENTLY, I THINK IT'LL TAKE AT LEAST THAT LONG.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND LET'S WORK ON PRIORITIES LIKE CITIZEN ISSUES, STORMWATER STUDY, TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A BREATH.
WE DON'T HAVE TO FILL MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES RIGHT NOW.
LET'S LET'S JUST YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH SOMEBODY I THINK THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. DOCTOR STOTZ, LISA HAROLD.
LISA HAROLD, HOW ARE Y'ALL TONIGHT? GOOD. I'M HERE.
REALLY? I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP MY THREE MINUTES.
I'M GOING TO REALLY AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBOR MIKE WHO SPOKE VERY SUCCINCTLY AND PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT INTO HIS PERUSAL OF THE REPORT AND HIS COMMENTS ABOUT THE REPORT.
AND SO HE HAS A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM NOT JUST ME, BUT SEVERAL NEIGHBORS ON SHERRY.
THE OTHER THING IS, I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH DOCTOR STOTZ.
I THINK KEVIN IS AN ASSET TO OUR CITY AND HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME.
HE'S A UNIFIER. HE GETS THINGS DONE. HE'S AN EXCELLENT COMMUNICATOR.
QUITE FRANKLY, OUR TRACK RECORD WITH CITY MANAGERS IS NOT IDEAL.
IT'S JUST NOT. AND SO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE THAT NOT ONLY KNOWS AND WORKS WELL WITH THE STAFF, BUT KNOWS AND WORKS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT IS VITAL.
SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. THANKS.
THANK YOU, MISS HAROLD. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THAT'S ALL VERY GOOD.
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I WILL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS MR. HOGENCAMP. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSION, COMMUNITY.[00:30:07]
I'M CLARIFYING FOR THE RECORD THAT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS COMISSIONER BOLES AGENDA ITEM DID NOT HAVE ANY PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF IT UNTIL THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE PREPARED TO PUBLISH THE AGENDA.AND THEN, OF COURSE, I SAW IT AS I DO ALL AGENDA ITEMS, I DID NOT SIGN THE AGENDA ITEM, AS IS CUSTOMARY IN CITY MANAGER INITIATED ITEMS TO ENSURE THAT I DIDN'T ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBLE FOR A PROPOSAL FROM WHICH I WOULD DIRECTLY BENEFIT.
AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE JANUARY 26TH MEETING, I'M MINDFUL OF THE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS.
AND THUS THE COMMISSION IS WORKING DIRECTLY WITH OUR HR DIRECTOR TO ENSURE THAT THIS THIS PROCESS IS INDEPENDENT OF MY OFFICE. MY GOAL, AS I'VE SAID FROM DAY ONE, IS TO PROVIDE STABLE LEADERSHIP AND OPERATIONAL CONTINUITY UNTIL YOU ALL DECIDE THE PROCEDURAL PATH TO TAKE.
SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS DURING OR AFTER THE MEETING, FROM A PEER OR FROM THE COMMUNITY, I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM. IN TERMS OF MY REPORT, WHICH IS PUBLISHED ON OUR WEBSITE AND AVAILABLE AT THE DOOR HERE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBER, THE BUDGET PROCESS BEGINS WITH OUR ANNUAL PRIORITY SETTING SESSION.
THAT'S FACILITATED EACH YEAR BY LINDA LANIER.
AND AS SUCH WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR PRIORITY SESSION SETTING ON SESSION ON APRIL 6TH, UNLESS THE COMMISSION SAYS THAT THAT DOES NOT WORK FOR THEM.
IN TERMS OF BEACHES, TOWN CENTER PARKING AND EARLY OF THIS YEAR, THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH LAUNCHED A NEW PARKING MANAGEMENT PARTNERSHIP WITH T2 SYSTEMS TO MODERNIZE THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER PARKING PROGRAM.
THIS TRANSITION RESOLVES PREVIOUS INEFFICIENCIES AND PROVIDES ADVANCED REPORTING CAPABILITIES INCLUDING REVENUE TRANSPARENCY, OCCUPANCY AND ANALYTICS, AND ENFORCEMENT AUDITS.
THESE THESE THIS REPORTING WAS PREVIOUSLY UNAVAILABLE.
AND THESE DATA POINTS WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL AS THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH NEGOTIATE OUR NEW INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR BEACHES, TOWN CENTER PARKING SERVICES FOR THE ATLANTIC BEACH ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION, A NEW FACILITY USE AGREEMENT FOR THE YOUTH BASEBALL PROGRAM AT RUSSELL PARK WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AT THE NEXT MEETING, FOR CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION BY RESOLUTION.
ON THE TOPIC OF AHERN STREET TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, A CHANGE ORDER IS IN PROGRESS TO INSTALL IN ROADWAY LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE AT EAST COAST, AND AHERN AT THE CROSSWALK THERE. AND WHILE CONSTRUCTION BY THE SELECTED CONTRACTOR, FLORIDA INFRASTRUCTURE IS PENDING MATERIAL, LEAD TIMES AND A POWER POLE RELOCATION.
OUR STAFF IS COORDINATING WITH THE HOA IN THE MEANTIME.
ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY HAS REQUESTED TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SERVICES FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE TO TO EVALUATE FURTHER PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS AT THIS INTERSECTION. AND CONCURRENTLY, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR THE 400 TO 600 BLOCK OF SHERRY DRIVE FOR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SERVICES FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. MEANWHILE. YES, MAY I ASK? I'M NOT SURE I GOT DATES. SO FOR THE AHERN EAST COAST, WHEN, WHEN IS SO.
SO YOU GAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS TO DO. WHEN WOULD THAT BE IMPLEMENTED? THERE, THERE'S THERE'S A CONTRACTOR ON THE JOB NOW.
YES. WE'RE AND WE HAVE WE'VE MADE THE REQUEST TO THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING SERVICES TO TO GIVE US AN EVALUATION OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. THAT'S WOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT.
THAT'S A NEW CONVERSATION. SO THE CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY ARE ON DECK RIGHT NOW, IS INDEPENDENT OF THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR REBUILDING AHERN STREET? CORRECT? OR IS IT TIED INTO THAT? NO, THAT'S THAT'S TIED INTO THAT.
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OH, IT IS OKAY. THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. THANK THANKS.MEANWHILE, WE'RE ACCEPTING BIDS THROUGH WEDNESDAY FOR WIDENING OF STURDIVANT AVENUE.
THE SIDEWALKS TO EIGHT FEET. SO THAT THAT PROJECT IS, IS RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AS WELL.
IF AWARDED, THIS WOULD EXPAND THE MASTER PLAN UPDATE FROM 2018 THE BUDGET TO $400,000, WHILE REDUCING OUR INTERNAL OBLIGATION TO $100,000. THIS INCREASED FUNDING WOULD ALLOW FOR A HIGHER FIDELITY OF MODELING TO ANALYZE COMPLEX DRAINAGE SCENARIOS WITH GREATER PRECISION.
YOU ALL, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST UPDATE YOU'VE HAD ON THIS PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, BUT BECAUSE THE GRANT DOES NOT PERMIT RETROACTIVE REIMBURSEMENT, THESE ENHANCEMENTS ARE CONTINGENT UPON THE AWARD AND CAN'T BE FUNDED UNLESS YOU DO DECIDE TO REACH INTO THE CITY RESERVES IN THE MEANTIME. I'LL UPDATE ON THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT CONSULTANT WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, WE HAVE CLOSED AN RFP FOR CONSULTING SERVICES.
MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. I GUESS I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVE TO GET THIS.
DOES OUR OUR CURRENT MAYOR OF JACKSONVILLE, WHO'S A RESIDENT OF ATLANTIC BEACH, REALIZE THE POSITION SHE'S PUT US IN IS TO TO SPEND MONEY? YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TO TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE WHERE YOU THINK WE'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THAT.
SHE WOULD DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT HER HOMETOWN THAT SHE LIVES IN IS, IS. LOOK, I'M NOT SAYING INFLUENCE THE THE THE ILA IN OUR FAVOR.
JUST COME TO THE TABLE AND LET'S, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS AND HAMMER THIS OUT.
WHY DO WE NEED, YOU KNOW, SOME LOOKS LIKE SOME SORT OF BINDING ARBITRATION WE'RE LEADING TO IT.
YEAH. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT. SINCE I'VE MET WITH THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND WHAT IS MIKE'S POSITION? MAYBE CAO? CAO? IT THIS IS UNDER PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER KILLINGSWORTH.
HE AND I MET WITH THEM WELL OVER A YEAR AGO, AND WE AGREED TO DO EXACTLY THIS PROCESS.
SO WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO OR NOT, THAT'S WHAT WE AGREED TO.
AND HERE WE ARE A YEAR PLUS LATER, AND WE ARE ONLY JUST GETTING TO THE POINT OF HAVING A CONSULTANT, AS YOU JUST HEARD, THAT WE RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE TO THE RFP.
THAT WAS NOT A FAILING OF THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.
WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN, I BELIEVE, TWO PRIOR LAWSUITS WITH REGARDS TO OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IN DECADES PAST, SO VERY LIKELY TO BE CONTENTIOUS. AND SO ALL THE PARTIES THAT SAT AT THE TABLE BELIEVED THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO AT LEAST START AND APPROACH THIS.
IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SOMETIME LATER AND WE HAVEN'T MADE MORE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FARTHER ALONG, BUT WE ARE IN THE QUEUE FOR THIS. AND WHAT INTERIM CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP JUST SAID IS IT'S IN THEIR COURT NOW TO REVIEW AND GIVE US THEIR RESPONSE AS TO WHETHER THEY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CONSULTANT THAT DID PLACE A BID AND WE'RE DOING THE SAME.
AND BASED ON THAT, THE CITY WILL MAKE A DECISION HOPEFULLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT IF NOT IN COLLABORATION. SO IT BECOMES MORE COMPLEX THAN JUST WHAT I'VE TOLD YOU.
HERE'S PART OF THE COMPLEXITY IS EVERY YEAR WE ALL GO THROUGH A BUDGET SEASON, AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW ENTERING THE BUDGET SEASON FOR CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, AND THEY'RE ENTERING THE BUDGET SEASON FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.
SO FINALLY, I CAN TELL YOU, I SPOKE AS RECENTLY AS LAST WEEKEND TO MAYOR DEEGAN, AND SHE'S FULLY AWARE OF WHERE WE STAND, AND I THINK SHE WILL GIVE US SUPPORT. BUT BUT IT'S AT THIS POINT IT'S GOING TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
UNLESS THIS COMMISSION DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
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SO THAT'S ALWAYS YOUR OPTION IF YOU WANT TO PURSUE THAT.BUT RIGHT NOW THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. THANK YOU COMISSIONER.
THANK YOU MAYOR. IN TERMS OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR A FIRE LINE EXTENSION INTO NEPTUNE BEACH, CITY ATTORNEY GABRIEL AND STAFF ARE FINALIZING A DRAFT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM REGARDING THE FIRE LINE EXTENSION.
THIS AGREEMENT IS EXPECTED TO BE PRESENTED TO BOTH CITIES GOVERNING BOARDS FOR APPROVAL IN MARCH.
AND THIS AGREEMENT FACILITATES POTABLE WATER SERVICE FOR FIRE PROTECTION TO A SPECIFIC REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT BECAUSE THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH CURRENTLY CANNOT MEET THE REQUIRED FIRE FLOW STANDARDS. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO NUMBER SIX.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT RFP? HOW MUCH WILL IT COST US? I KNOW WE'RE SPLITTING THE BILL WITH COJ. IF IF THIS CONSULTANT IS SELECTED, THEIR PRICE WAS A LITTLE LESS THAN $90,000, WHICH PRESUMABLY WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.
DID THEY GIVE US A TIMELINE? YES. THERE. THEIR REPORT WOULD BE OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD.
OH, WOW. 12 MONTHS. OKAY. AND TO PUNCTUATE THE THE COST SHARING IT'S ONLY VERBAL, SO THINGS CAN CHANGE, BUT IT WAS VERBALLY AGREED TO THAT IT WOULD BE SPLIT EQUALLY BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES.
HAVE WE COLLECTIVELY APPROACHED AS A GROUP THE BEACHES? YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. THE COLLECTIVE BEACHES VERSUS DUVAL COUNTY, CITY OF JACKSONVILLE.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, JACKSONVILLE BEACH DID NOT WISH TO PURSUE ANYTHING.
NEPTUNE BEACH, I THOUGHT WAS NOT GOING TO PURSUE, BUT I'M OF THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVE HAD SOME DIALOG REGARDING THEIR INTERLOCAL, BUT THEY CHOSE TO DO THAT UNILATERALLY WITHOUT COLLECTIVISM.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS, INCLUDING THE FIRE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN NEPTUNE.
YES. COMISSIONER. YEAH. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT AS WE'RE OPENING UP THE FIRE SERVICES, BECAUSE THEY THAT CONTRACT ENDED IN JUNE OF 24, I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE WHOLE THING.
JACK'S BEACH JUST RECENTLY SOLD THEIR SERVICES FOR FIRE TO JFRD IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO THEY'RE JUST GETTING STARTED. OKAY, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
OKAY. JUST I WAS JUST THINKING THAT THAT WOULD BE WHY WE WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT SITUATION HAPPENING IN OUR BEACH THAN NEPTUNE OR JACK'S BEACH, FOR A REASON OF WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALTOGETHER, AND NOT JUST THE FIRE SERVICES. YEAH. SO JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT, EACH BEACH HAS A DIFFERENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. FOR THE CITIZENS HERE, IT SHOULD BE NOTEWORTHY THAT NEPTUNE BEACH DOES NOT PAY FOR FIRE SERVICES AT ALL.
THEY OBTAIN THEIR FIRE SERVICES THROUGH OUR STATION HERE.
AND WE GET. WELL, WE USED TO GET REIMBURSED FROM COJ FROM JFRD.
ONCE WE AMENDED AND MOVED FORWARD ON THIS LAST YEAR'S AGREEMENT, WE SIMPLY, THERE WASN'T A SEPARATE FEE TO GET REIMBURSED ON, BUT SO THAT'S THAT. AND THEN CITY OF JACKSONVILLE BEACH THEY PAY FOR FIRE, BUT THEY ALSO GOT A SWEETHEART DEAL ON NO TIPPING FEES FOR SOLID WASTE. SO EACH CITY HAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION, AND WE'LL ONLY ASSUME THAT JACKSONVILLE BEACH IS LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR BEST INTERESTS AND NOT OPENING UP WHAT MIGHT BE A CAN OF WORMS. AND BUT AS TO THE THE FIRE AGREEMENT, I ALSO WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS.
IT IS MY DESIRE THAT ONCE WE GET INTO THIS NEGOTIATION BASED ON THE CONSULTANT, THAT WE WRAP OUR JFRD AGREEMENT INTO THE MAIN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
AND I HOPE EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS BELIEVES THAT THAT IS A COUNTY SERVICE.
AND IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, RESCUE WAS CLEARLY IDENTIFIED IN THE ILA, BUT THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, FIRE AND RESCUE MERGED TOGETHER.
NO WE'RE NOT. WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR FIRE, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE PAYING THAT.
MY MY OPINION, OF COURSE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. YOU MAY HAVE REMEMBERED THIS.
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IT WAS ABOUT MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. TWO YEARS? WE HAD THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE CITY COMISSIONERS OVER IN A PUBLIC HEARING.AND I REMEMBER I WAS SITTING NEXT TO OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER OR CITY MANAGER.
AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING THAT WHEN WE BROUGHT UP THE FACT OF DUVAL COUNTY TAXES, WHAT YOU GET AS A DOLLAR AS AN ATLANTIC BEACH CITIZEN AND WHAT YOU GET IN SERVICES FROM DUVAL COUNTY, THERE'S A HUGE, IN MY OPINION. AND I THINK OTHER PEOPLE'S THERE'S A DISPARITY THERE.
THEY REALLY DODGED THAT ONE AND DID NOT WANT I THINK I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE PULLING BIG HORSES TO THE CENTER HERE, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEM TO COME TO THE TABLE, BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT DEAL WITH IT, AND I UNDERSTAND MAYOR TO MAYOR. NO, NO, IT'S IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT WE EXECUTE WELL ON THIS.
BUT AGAIN, IT WAS THE BELIEF OF THOSE INVOLVED THAT THE SMART PLAY, AT LEAST INITIALLY, IS TO DO SOMETHING THAT BOTH SIDES AGREED UPON AND THAT WAS A CONSULTANT. WE CAN ALWAYS GET TOUGH IF THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT I, I THINK WE WE SHOULD EXPECT THAT WE WILL GAIN SOME TRACTION AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY END UP WITH THE VERY BEST INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE CAN, BUT BUT TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE BY COMISSIONER RING.
RIGHT. SO WE GET THAT IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE A YEAR.
AND I THINK WE'LL KNOW WELL UNDER A YEAR WHAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE INTEND TO TAKE BASED ON THE INFORMATION COMING TO US, SO, OKAY. BACK TO YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANKS.
GOOD QUESTIONS. THANKS FOR THAT DIALOG. NEXT MY FINAL THREE ITEMS TO RESOLVE, ENVIRONMENTAL VIOLATIONS THAT THE CITY HAS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR EFFLUENT LIMIT EXCEEDANCES BETWEEN 2021 AND 2025, THE CITY'S IMPLEMENTING CORRECTIONS AND A MANDATED $30,655, $30,655 IN-KIND ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECT. BY OPTING FOR THIS IN-KIND PROJECT VERSUS WRITING A CHECK AND PAYING A FINE INTO THE STATE'S GENERAL FUND, THE CITY ENSURES THAT THESE FUNDS ARE REINVESTED DIRECTLY INTO LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVES.
IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PLATFORM THAT REPLACES OUR 1980S LEGACY SYSTEM TO INTEGRATE OUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, UTILITY BILLING AND HR SERVICES. AND WHILE THIS INITIAL LEARNING CURVE MAY PRESENT SHORT TERM CHALLENGES FOR OUR STAFF AND CUSTOMERS, REALLY STARTING TODAY THE TRANSITION WILL DELIVER SIGNIFICANT LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS IN DATA INTEGRITY, OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. AND FINALLY, IN THIS REPORT THE CITY'S $1 MILLION PLUS DUNE WALKOVER PROJECT FUNDING REMAINS SECURED. AND THE RECENTLY SIGNED FY 26 COMMERCE JUSTICE SCIENCE APPROPRIATIONS BILL.
AND OTHER THAN ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE 90 DAY CALENDAR, THAT COMPLETES MY REPORT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
ALL RIGHT. DO DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON ACCEPTING THE 90 DAY CALENDAR? YES. YOU HAVE YOUR 90 DAY CALENDAR. THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4. A I'M SORRY. NO.
[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]
OH, YEAH. 4.A CITY MANAGER RECRUITMENT UPDATE.MR. BOLE. YEP. I'LL START WITH THAT AND THEN FOLLOW UP MY COMMENTS.
YES, PLEASE. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK BOB AND HR.
I WANT TO THANK THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO ARE INTEGRAL IN THIS PROCESS.
JUST I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT FOR THE CITY MANAGER REQUIREMENTS.
I, I PUT MYSELF ON THIS TO UPDATE SO THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, MISS ANY PLACES ALONG THE LINE WHERE WE'RE NOT TRANSPARENT AND WE KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW. WE KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER'S DOING. SO I OWE YOU BACK A TIMELINE, WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT MEETING ALONG WITH A BUDGET.
NEXT MEETING. I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR RESOLUTION 2623.
UNTIL WE GET THERE. OKAY, A QUESTION I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING TIMELINE.
SO ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS CREATE AN RFP. PRETTY MUCH.
YEAH. RIGHT. SO WE SHOULD HAVE ONE TODAY. WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ONE YET.
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CAN WE NOT AGREE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AN RFP DONE IMMEDIATELY, SOONEST? RIGHT. WELL, NO. CAN WE DEFINE SOON? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK BOB TO COME UP HERE.BOB, CAN WE CAN WE PUT TOGETHER AN RFP THIS WEEK? BOB LANAKILA, DIRECTOR OF HR. SO WE HAVE A DRAFT RFP, BUT I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A DIRECTION OR A WORD FROM THE COMMISSION TO INITIATE IT.
YEAH, WE CAN SAY YES AND BRING IT TO YOU. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. HOLD ON. YOU HAVE IT. DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE A DRAFT? YES. OKAY, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK.
CAN WE HAVE THAT DRAFT? SURE. YEAH, WE COULD HAVE HAD THAT TONIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS COUNTING ON FROM YOU. WELL, I DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY, MAN.
OKAY. SO. ALL RIGHT CAN YOU FURNISH THAT, PLEASE? TO COMISSIONER BOLE. AND HE'LL FURNISH IT TO THE CITY CLERK, AND SHE CAN SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE COMISSIONERS.
BUT I'D LIKE TO ACT ON THAT ON THE NEXT MEETING.
AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE PLAN ON THE NEXT MEETING TO TAKE PREPARE IN ADVANCE BASED ON THE DRAFT AND BE SUCCINCT IN, IN YOUR REQUESTS. AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN CRANK OUT AN RFP BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE LOSING TIME.
UNLESS IT IS THE INTENT OF THIS COMMISSION NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
NO, WE, I'LL BE BY TOMORROW, BOB. THANK YOU. NEXT ON MY LIST.
REMEMBER, WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR A CITIZEN NOMINEES FOR OUR DISTRICTS.
SO THINK ABOUT THAT. ALSO WE KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST TIME.
AND LIKE I SAID, I'LL SAVE MY OTHER COMMENTS FOR WHEN WE GO THROUGH RESOLUTION 2623.
I WOULD LIKE TO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO MY REGULAR COMISSIONER COMMENTS.
I SAT DOWN WITH THE CITY ENGINEER AND SPOKE TO HIM AT LENGTH ABOUT THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION.
I THINK I HAVE A MUCH BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT PROVIDES.
AND THAT'S ONE OF MY NOTES HERE, IS I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS IN BEFORE THE NEXT HURRICANE SEASON.
I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE POWER AFTER HURRICANE YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SEWAGE, THERE'S NO PEOPLE COMING BACK TO THAT AREA. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPERATIVE.
AND I MENTION IT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT WE DO A PRIORITY SETTING, WE TALK INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE TALK STORMWATER, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER NOT PUT THAT IT'S LIKE NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO ON OUR LIST.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE ISSUES ABOUT THE PROCESS.
I UNDERSTAND THERE'S ISSUES ABOUT THE LOCATION, ALL THOSE THINGS.
BUT WHAT WE'RE NOT HEARING IS 100 FAMILIES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED BY HAVING THIS PUMP IN.
THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU COMISSIONER. COMISSIONER KELLY.
[INAUDIBLE] TO TOUR THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER THE OTHER DAY, PARTICULARLY COLD DAY.
I THINK THE ONE THAT'S COMPLETED THAT THE GREAT ROOM WOULD BE THE BIGGEST ROOM FOR RENT IN ATLANTIC BEACH, UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOTEL. SO I THINK IT'LL BE VERY POPULAR WITH, SINCE I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THERE ARE SO MANY OFFICES IN THERE. I, I ENVISIONED A COMMUNITY CENTER, NOT AN OFFICE SPACE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT 40% OF THE BUILDING IS OFFICES. SO I LIKE REALLY QUESTION WHY DO WE NEED SO MANY OFFICES OVER THERE? AND IF WE'RE MOVING RECREATION STAFF OVER FROM ADELE GRAVES, THEN WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THOSE SPACES? AND I DIDN'T VOTE ON AN OFFICE DUPLEX WE VOTED ON.
AND ALSO I ASKED KEVIN TO CHECK AND SEE SPRING BREAK IS COMING UP AND I WAS WONDERING IF BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS GOING TO BE OFFERING SOME KIND OF VACATION CAMP. YEAH. YEAH, SURE. I DID PRESENT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS.
WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ABOUT BRIDGING THAT GAP DURING SPRING BREAK, AND HOPE THAT WE CAN PULL THAT OFF.
ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMISSIONER COMISSIONER RING.
I ATTENDED THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION DAYS BACK IN JANUARY THE 27TH.
I WAS ABLE TO WALK ALONGSIDE NEPTUNE BEACH, THEIR MAYOR, TWO OF THEIR COMISSIONERS AND THEIR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, THEY DO NOT HAVE A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, SO I ASSUME THAT HE WAS THERE IN THAT STEAD.
SO IT WAS A FANTASTIC MEETING. I GOT TO MEET WITH [INAUDIBLE] AND A SMALL GROUP ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE DEAN BLACK AS WELL. AND IT WAS PACKED. IN FACT THE ELEVATOR BROKE QUITE A FEW TIMES TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY, AND THEY HAD A LOT TO SAY. SO THEY'RE IN WEEK FOUR RIGHT NOW.
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SO THAT MIGHT IMPACT OUR ORDINANCES, E-BIKES, ALL THEY DID WAS DO WHAT WE HAD ALREADY DONE, WHICH IS LIMIT THE SPEED THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DRIVE ON THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PEDESTRIANS.I WAS HOPING TO SEE SOME LEGISLATION ON DRIVER'S LICENSE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.
AND I WAS PRETTY PROUD OF MY CITY THAT WE BROKE GROUND WITH THAT BEFORE THE STATE DID.
I DID WANT TO BRING UP THE BEACHES WATCH, I ATTENDED ALONG WITH COMISSIONER KELLY AND OUR MAYOR JUST LAST WEDNESDAY ABOUT DEFUNDING OUR CITIES. IT WAS FANTASTIC. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND I WANT OUR CITIZENS TO KNOW THAT ACTUALLY, 39.9% OF OUR FUNDS COME OUT OF THE AD VALOREM.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT CUTTING A VERY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I IMPLORE ALL CITY CITIZENS HERE AT THE BEACHES ALTOGETHER TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT BEACHES, WATCH VIDEO TO LOOK AT THE POWERPOINT AND SEE HOW THEY BREAK IT DOWN.
WATCH WHERE YOUR MONEY GOES. AS A ELECTED OFFICIAL, I HEAR THAT FROM MY CITIZENS THAT THEY WANT MORE SERVICES, NOT LESS. SO 40% OF OUR FUNDS WOULD BE LOST WITH THAT.
ABOUT THE LIFT STATION. I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I KNOW THE PROCESS WAS ALWAYS THE ISSUE. CLEAR PLANS FOR CITIZENS.
ABOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY COMPONENT, ARE WE INSPECTING OUR OWN WORK WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CITY PROJECTS? WHO IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER? IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO GOING FORWARD? HAVE SEND OUR OWN GUYS TO INSPECT JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DONE TO CODE? AND WHAT IF IT'S NOT? SO I JUST GO AHEAD AND PASS ON TO MR. HOGENCAMP FOR THAT QUESTION. MAY I RESPOND? SO MAYOR, COMISSIONER, INDEED, THE DUE DILIGENCE OF HOW WE GOT HERE IS IS IS PART OF MY PART OF MY LOOKING INTO THIS AND REPORTING BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
AND THAT'S WAS A THEME OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THE [INAUDIBLE] THAT I'M I'M GOING TO LOOK AT IT OBJECTIVELY, THOROUGHLY, AND OBVIOUSLY LOOK FOR IMPROVEMENTS MOVING FORWARD.
IT IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPERATIVE, IN FACT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS PART OF A GRANT IN ORDER.
AND IT'S JUST IT'S NOT THE ONLY LIFT STATION THAT'S IN A VULNERABLE AREA.
THERE'S OTHERS. BUT FOR ANYONE ELSE NEXT TO ANY OF THE OTHER LIFT STATIONS, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT PROJECT, LOOK AT THE PLANS, I THINK THAT WOULD APPEASE A LOT OF CITIZENS.
BUT MOREOVER, IT WOULD SAVE THEM A TRIP DOWN TO CITY HALL AND US AND THEM ALL THE TIME.
I WOULD WANT TO KNOW, TOO, AND HOW IT WOULD AFFECT ME.
I DID NOT GET THAT TRAFFIC REPORT. I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAVE SPOKEN TO HERE AT THE COMMISSION TO BILL KILLINGSWORTH, WHO WHEN HE WAS HERE TO A RAISED PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK OR, SORRY, A RAISED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. I SEE ITS IMPORTANCE, BUT I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE REPORT.
I DID NOT GET A COPY OF THAT. SO IF WE COULD, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
AND I DID TOUR MARCIA OAKES. IT LOOKS GREAT. I WOULD SAY IT WAS MORE LIKE 60% COMMUNITY CENTER, 40% OFFICES. OH, OKAY. I MUST HAVE HAD THAT. YEAH.
BUT YEAH, WHAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE IS THE LANDSCAPING OFF TO THE SIDE, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE PART OF IT, TOO. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU MAYOR.
THANK YOU COMISSIONER. COMISSIONER GRANT. YEAH.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL BEATING THE SAME DRUM THIS THIS EVENING.
SO I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT 20TH STREET LIFT STATION FOR A MOMENT.
AND CITY MANAGER, I DON'T ENVY YOU IN, IN INHERITING THIS AND TRYING TO KIND OF PEEL BACK THE, THE THE ONION, IF YOU WILL, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, BUT, AND QUICK YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE, WE REALLY WANT TO SEE IS A PERMIT BEING PULLED.
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OKAY. AND I THINK OUR CONTENTION FOR A LONG TIME.WELL, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT FOR THEIR OWN WORK, OKAY? AND THAT'S FINE. BUT DO WE HAVE A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE TO MAYBE NOT HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT WE STILL HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY IN A WAY THAT WOULD MEET PERMIT STANDARDS.
RIGHT. YOU FOLLOW ME. AND SO THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION.
HAVE WE DONE THAT? DID WE DO THAT? THE CONTRACTOR THAT THAT IS DOING THE WORK.
WHAT IS THE SCOPE OF WORK LOOK LIKE? DO WE EVEN DIRECT THEM TO, TO, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD A PAD THAT MET THOSE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS? I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST SAYING BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN AND THEN I THINK IT CAME TO PASS THAT.
OKAY, WE DID FILE A PERMIT, BUT THEN IT WAS POINTED OUT THE PERMIT WAS INCORRECT.
OKAY. IT MISSED SOME THINGS. AND SO KILLINGSWORTH PULLED THE WHOLE THING TO THE SIDE AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS FOR NOW. WELL, THAT WAS AUGUST. OKAY.
AND SO NOW WE'RE STILL STILL WHERE WE WERE IN AUGUST.
OKAY. AND IF THAT MEANS BUSTING UP CONCRETE AND REDOING THE PAD, YOU KNOW, SO BE IT.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, BUT WE NEED TO START MOVING FORWARD AND DO THEM, DO IT CORRECTLY AND BUILD IT IN A MANNER THAT WE SHOULD AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE OTHER LIFT STATIONS THE SAME WAY.
OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL ANYBODY'S ASKING.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET THE THING BUILT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ALONG THE WAY TO MITIGATE SOUND AND SIGHT, THEN WE'LL DO IT. AND IF WE NEED TO TAKE EXTRA STEPS, LET'S DO THOSE TWO, WHICH WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT NUMEROUS TIMES, THAT WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT.
OKAY? ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. THE AGREEMENT WITH ABAA, I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO THAT ORGANIZATION A COUPLE TIMES THIS WEEK, AND I THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT STAFF IS ASKING FOR.
BUT I, I GUESS WE CONTINUE TO ASK FOR NO PLAY ON SUNDAY.
WHICH IS A IT'S A NONSTARTER FOR ME. SO WE NEED TO OVERCOME THAT.
AND YOU DID MENTION THAT ONCE WE GET THE ABAA A AGREEMENT IN PLACE, IT WOULD INFLUENCE THE RFP FOR THE FARMERS MARKET. SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE THINKING THAT WAY BECAUSE BECAUSE MY CONTENTION IS, AND MY HOPE OR DESIRE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ABAA WILL GET THEIR PLAY, BUT THE FARMERS MARKET'S GOING TO NEED, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE MORE IN FAVOR OF A PROPOSAL THAT PLACES THEIR VENDOR PARKING SOMEWHERE OFF SITE. I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE A BIG COMPONENT OF THE THE FARMER'S MARKET RFP TO REMOVE CONGESTION AND AND HELP US WITH THE PARKING. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT US HELPING THE FARMERS MARKET.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW. WE'RE WE'RE STILL, NOTHING'S HAPPENED YET.
SO WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE SOMETHING IN THAT DIRECTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND THEN LASTLY THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T STAY.
THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. I JUST GOT TO READ IT TODAY. I'VE BEEN ON I'VE BEEN OUT ON OUT OF TOWN FOR A WHILE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CATCHING UP. BUT THAT WAS A REALLY IMPRESSIVE WHITE PAPER.
AND HE BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS. AND WHILE THE, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK PUT IN BY THE POLICE TO, TO EXPEDITE THAT STUDY AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY THE STUDY MIGHT NOT WARRANT CERTAIN TRAFFIC CALMING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT, THAT MICHAEL BROUGHT UP THAT I THINK RESONATED WITH ME IN TERMS OF JUST THE THE OVERALL ACTIVITY THAT STREET GETS FROM BEING. IT'S SORT OF THE LIFELINE OF THE CITY WITH THE SCHOOL RIGHT THERE.
WE, A MAIN ARTERY RATHER IS A BETTER WORD FOR IT.
WE MIGHT, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF CALM THE TRAFFIC THERE IN WAYS THAT MAKE SENSE.
AND SO I, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE IN, IN SUPPORT OF THAT.
SO MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I GOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMISSIONER.
I'LL BE FAIRLY BRIEF. I, I ALSO WANT TO JUST CONGRATULATE MR.
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KULICK ON A FABULOUS WHITE PAPER. I READ IT SEVERAL TIMES, SO THAT'S A GOOD DIRECTION FROM A CITIZEN.I, I'VE LISTENED TO PRESENTATIONS NOW, I THINK 3 OR 4 TIMES IN THIS CHAMBER FROM THE SIMONS REGARDING THE 20TH STREET LIFT STATION, AND NO DISRESPECT TO COMISSIONER BOLE, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT BEFORE WE INSTALL SOMETHING WRONG. AND SO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED WITH.
BUT THIS IS NO DIFFERENT THAN LAST YEAR AND FIVE YEARS AGO AND TEN YEARS AGO.
SO WHAT WE AS FAR AS THE RISK TO ANYBODY OF FLOODING ON THIS ISLAND.
BUT BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING. THERE'S SIMPLE BEGINNING SOLUTION TO THE ISSUES THAT CONFRONT THIS LIFT STATION AND THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT TO THIS COMMISSION BY THE THE SIMONS IS HAVING A PROPER SITE PLAN.
WHAT IS DIFFERENT HERE AND NEEDS TO BE REALLY UNDERSTOOD, IS THIS ISN'T ABOUT GETTING A CHECKLIST FOR FOLLOWING CITY CODE, OR EVEN FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SO MUCH AS FOLLOWING FEMA'S REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS A FEMA GRANT FOR A HARDENING OF A LIFT STATION IN A FLOOD ZONE.
SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE NOT IN FLOOD ZONES.
THIS ONE'S IN A FLOOD ZONE. AND IMAGINE THE CONCERN OF THE FAMILY THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS, OF AN IMPROPERLY INSTALLED GAS TANK THAT BREAKS LOOSE IN A FLOOD AND CAUSES DAMAGE TO THEIR PROPERTY OR BLOWS UP OR WHATEVER.
SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES. THE FORMER CITY MANAGER DETERMINED, AFTER WE GOT INVOLVED IN THIS THAT WE WERE NOT PROPERLY WE WERE NOT PROPERLY COMPLIANT IN AT LEAST THAT PIECE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO EVERY PIECE. SO HE PUT IT OUT FOR THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT HAD DONE A PREVIOUS LIFT STATION, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ON WHEN BEGONIA, IT WAS ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR FLOWERS.
IT WAS CAMELLIA. OKAY. ONE OF OUR FLOWER STREETS.
SO WE I BELIEVE AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN ON THIS, BUT I BELIEVE WE INCORRECTLY ISSUED A PERMIT OFF IN INACCURATE, INCORRECT DATA. SO THE CITY MANAGER WENT BACK TO THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE USE AND ASKED, AND ACTUALLY IT WAS THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT HAD DONE THE OTHER SITE PLAN AND ASKED IF THEY COULD UPDATE THIS.
AND NOW MANY, MANY, MANY MONTHS LATER, WE HAVE NOTHING.
SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR DEPUTY CITY, INTERIM CITY MANAGER IS CAN WE TERMINATE THAT RELATIONSHIP AND MOVE TO A FIRM THAT WILL RESPOND TO THIS CITY, OR DO YOU KNOW YET BASED ON YOUR DISCOVERY? I THINK THAT IF WE CAN, WE WILL. I DON'T KNOW YET THAT WE CAN.
WE WE THEY'VE BEEN THEY PUT US ON HOLD TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM. AND, YES, I'M READY TO FISH OR CUT BAIT WITH WITH WITH ENGINEERING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. I, I JUST HAVE TO TELL THE CITIZENS AND ANYBODY THAT WATCHES THIS.
SO THIS IS MR. KILLINGSWORTH ATTEMPTED TO GET THIS DONE.
IT IS NOT DONE. MR. HOGENCAMP GETS TO PULL THE IRON OUT OF THE FIRE AND MOVE IT FORWARD.
BUT THAT IS THE FIRST STEP. ONCE WE HAVE THAT SITE PLAN, THEN WE CAN BACKFILL WITH ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS TO MEET FEMA AND MOVE FORWARD WITH A AN APPROVED PROJECT. WOULD YOU AGREE? YEAH. SO ALL RIGHT.
[6. CONSENT AGENDA]
SO WE'VE FINISHED ON THAT. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY COMMISSION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW.
THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. ITEM 6.A APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-16. OKAY.
OKAY, WE'LL PULL IT. YEAH. ITEM 6.B APPROVE RESOLUTION 26-17.
ITEM 6. C APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-19, 6.D APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-20 AND 6.E APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-22. OKAY. ACCEPTING ITEM 6.A, WHICH IS RESOLUTION 26-16, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 6.B, C, D, AND E AS A, UNDER CONSENT?
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I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SIX B, SIX C, SIX D AND SIX E.SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AND SO NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO 6.A WHICH I'M GOING TO NEED TO LOCATE.
[6.A. Approve Resolution No. 26-16]
BUT ONE OF THE POLES HAS AN OSPREY NEST. SO MY QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, IS THIS AN ACTIVE NEST? CAN WE SKIP IT? YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST TEARING DOWN YET ANOTHER TREE? THROUGH THE MAYOR GOOD EVENING, AMANDA ASKEW NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT. I HAD STAFF GO OUT AND LOOK.IT'S NOT ACTIVE CURRENTLY, SO WE'LL NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T GET ACTIVE, THOUGH, THROUGH THE PROCESS. OKAY. THANKS. OKAY, GOOD.
OKAY, SO WE NOW HAVE 6.A WHICH, LET ME READ IT IF I CAN FIND IT OKAY.
THIS WOULD BE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE DONNER PARK BASEBALL LED LIGHT REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY, TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION 26-16.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.
AYE. OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO ITEM 8.A RESOLUTION NUMBER
[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 26-18]
26-18, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE 2026 ANNUAL SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROJECT, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND AS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THIS REQUEST IS PART OF OUR 2026 CIP.
THE COST IS $104,212. IT'S BUDGETED. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE OUR SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR. JACKS UTILITIES MANAGEMENT. OKAY.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN DISCUSSION, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 26-18.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION? JUST BASED ON AN OLD DOCUMENT? ARE WE GOING? ARE THESE THE ONLY SIDEWALKS WE'RE GOING TO DO IS PEOPLE GOT.
IS THERE AN EVALUATION SYSTEM FOR SIDEWALKS? COMISSIONER.
I'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION AND MANY OTHERS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THIS INDEED ALREADY WAS ON THE LIST OF THE EVALUATION.
INCLUDES STAFF MEETING AND GOING BACK OUT TO THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND RANKING THE SIDEWALKS.
WE ARE GOING TO, IN THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, BE BRINGING A MORE UP TO DATE ENTERPRISING SOLUTION TO DETERMINING WHICH SIDEWALKS WE WORK ON NEXT. YEAH. OKAY. HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
[8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 26-23]
NEXT ITEM IS 8.B RESOLUTION, NUMBER 26-23, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DIRECTING STAFF TO EVALUATE THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR POTENTIAL PERMANENT APPOINTMENT AND PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION PRIOR TO ANY NATIONAL SEARCH.YOU WANT A DISCUSSION FIRST? NO, NO. THE MOVE.
YOU'VE MOVED IT. YEP. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? HEARING NONE.
THE MOTION FAILS. AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.A.
[9.A. Ordinance No. 5-26-74, Public Hearing and Final Reading]
ORDINANCE NUMBER 5-2674. PUBLIC HEARING AND FINAL READING.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, COUNTY OF DUVAL, STATE OF FLORIDA.
CREATING A NEW ARTICLE 9, CITY FEES, DIVISION ONE GENERAL ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, SECTIONS 2-450 THROUGH 2-499 AND DIVISION TWO BUILDING CODE FEES, SECTIONS 2-500 THROUGH 2-519.
IN CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION OF THE ATLANTIC BEACH CODE OF ORDINANCES.
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ARTICLE TWO BUILDING CODE SECTION 6-2026 SCHEDULE A BUILDING PERMIT FEES.ARTICLE THREE ELECTRIC CODE SECTION 6-37 SAME FEES.
ARTICLE FOUR PLUMBING CODE. SECTION 6-59. SAME FEES.
ARTICLE FIVE MECHANICAL CODE. SECTION 6-77 INSPECTION FEES.
CHAPTER SEVEN FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION.
ARTICLE TWO FIRE PREVENTION AND LIFE SAFETY. SECTION 7-30 FEES.
CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTRATION. ARTICLE SEVEN FINANCE.
SECTION 2-368 FEES AND CHARGES BY DELETING THE FEES IN THESE SECTIONS AND REFERENCING THE NEW ARTICLE NINE IN CHAPTER TWO WHERE THE FEES WILL BE RELOCATED. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT, FOR CODIFICATION, FOR APPLICABILITY, FOR CONFLICT, FOR SEVERABILITY, AND FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS ON THIS TOPIC OVER THE LAST TWO MEETINGS, INCLUDING WHEN YOU APPROVED THIS ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
AS THE TITLE STATED, WE'RE RELOCATING EXISTING FEES INTO A DIFFERENT INTO ONE SECTION OF THE CODE.
BUT MOST NOTABLY, WE'RE UPDATING OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEE SCHEDULE.
OUR GENERAL FUND HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZING THE THE BUILDING FUND.
AND WE'RE MODERNIZING OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES EFFECTIVELY.
OKAY WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED IN FOR THAT? DONNA, LET ME LOOK THROUGH IT AGAIN. MAYOR. I DO NOT THINK SO.
NO, SIR. OKAY, THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 5-26-74.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE.
OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. AND WE MOVE NOW TO CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS.
NO COMMENTS. SIR. CITY CLERK NO COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
[12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]
COMISSIONER BOLE, I THINK I'VE GOT ABOUT 11 MINUTES.JUST A COUPLE THINGS. I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO IMPLY THAT I DIDN'T WANT THE LIFT STATION DONE RIGHT.
WE ALL WANT THAT, RIGHT? WE ALL WANT IT DONE BY CODE, THE PROCEDURES, THE SAFETY.
I JUST THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME URGENCY.
MAYBE. MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD WORD, YOU KNOW, TO TO PUSH IT, YOU KNOW, TO TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
BUT TO GET IT DONE, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A GRANT.
MY OPINION. YEAH. ONE THING COMISSIONER GRANT BROUGHT UP YOU KNOW, I'VE, I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN THE THE FARMER'S MARKET AND BASEBALL ON A SUNDAY. I THINK HE'S GOT A GOOD IDEA ABOUT THE THE PARKING.
ONE THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND WAS YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT ATLANTIC BEACH BARBECUE, AND THEY, THEY GET THAT THAT CHURCH PARKING LOT, AND ADMITTEDLY, IT'S A SUNDAY, BUT THINGS LIKE THAT.
MAYBE WE CAN FIND SOME YOU KNOW, SOME MIDDLE GROUND AS FAR AS PARKING, BECAUSE THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. ALSO. MAYOR, JUST TO GO BACK TO ONE THING YOU SAID ABOUT A TIMELINE IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR ME TO DO A TIMELINE NOW THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS ORDINANCE 2623. THAT WAS PART OF MY LOGIC. I, I LIKE YOU AND WANT TO MOVE DOWN THE ROAD.
I JUST WANT TO THANK BOB AGAIN IN HR. ONE THING ABOUT BETTING IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, YOU DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK, THE ALL THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW, TAKES TIME AND AND SO WE WILL FRAME IT.
AND SO YOU'LL HEAR FROM MYSELF AND MAYBE BOB NEXT MEETING.
AS FAR AS THAT I, I LIKE YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE WENT THROUGH LAST TIME.
YEAH. I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT. I WANT TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
I WANT TO DO ALL THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE GOOD CITY MANAGER.
AND LIKE I SAID TODAY, TONIGHT'S THE ONE I BROUGHT UP WAS NOT A REFERENDUM ON KEVIN.
IT WAS REALLY A REFERENDUM ON WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND AND THE WAY FORWARD AND HOW WE WANT TO OPERATE.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. COMISSIONER KELLY.
I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. COMISSIONER RING. JUST, WHEN DO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE NAMES FOR THE PANEL? LIKE, LIKE TO GET THEM BY NEXT MEETING IF YOU HAVE.
SO YOU COULD GET THEM. BUT HERE'S WHAT I THINK WE DISCUSSED.
AND IF NOT, WE SHOULD CLARIFY IS IF, IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.
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WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK FOR THEM TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON FORMING A COMMITTEE.SO RIGHT NOW, I THINK REALLY ALL YOUR TASK TO DO IS HAVE YOUR NAME READY.
OKAY. BUT BUT WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT BECAUSE.
AND IT WAS TWO NAMES, WASN'T IT? NO. JUST ONE.
IT WAS ONE PER COMISSIONER FOR FOUR DISTRICTS AND THEN ONE AT LARGE FROM THE MAYOR.
OKAY, I SEE. MAYOR, CAN I JUST CHIME IN HERE A LITTLE BIT? I MAYBE I REMEMBERED IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK WHAT WE, WE SAID IS WE WANT A CITIZENS COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SEARCH FIRM GOES OUT THERE AND SAYS, HEY, HERE'S HERE'S YOUR RESUMES. RIGHT. WE REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THIS LAST TIME THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE WAS GOING TO WHITTLE THEM DOWN AND PRESENT THEM TO, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'LL DO.
THAT'S FINE. I'LL CODIFY THAT. SO, AND WE'LL WRITE IT DOWN.
I'LL GET TOGETHER WITH BOB AND YOU GUYS TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SAY.
BUT AGAIN THE ONE THING I THINK WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF, THERE ARE ELECTIONS IN NOVEMBER, RIGHT? THE AVERAGE CITY MANAGER LASTS 4.7 YEARS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
A CITY MANAGER'S JOB IS ONLY AS GOOD AS AS THREE VOTES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A FACT. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN THE MIX.
ALSO THOSE FACTS. THANKS. GOOD. NOW THAT'S IT.
OKAY. COMISSIONER GRANT. YES. JUST REAL QUICK.
YOU KNOW, THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT THAT COMISSIONER BOLE.
I MEAN, I AGREE WITH HIM. IT WAS REALLY JUST ABOUT PROCESS AND NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT KEVIN.
AND AND LOOK, I'M GLAD THAT KEVIN IS INTERESTED IN THE JOB.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE FANS OF KEVIN AND KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME, YOU KNOW, STOOD UP FOR HIM, I THINK. AND, AND AND IN A GOOD WAY AT THAT EMERGENCY MEETING, I THINK IT WAS OR WHATEVER MEETING WAS WHERE WE APPOINTED HIM INTERIM CITY MANAGER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE OPTIONS FOR US, EVEN THOUGH THE CHARTER SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO USE THE DEPUTY OR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S NEXT IN LINE, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANTED TO GO OUTSIDE LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME, I WASN'T PART OF THAT COMMISSION. WE COULD HAVE. BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GIVEN KEVIN AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO TO YOU KNOW, IMPRESS US BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE FINALLY GET THIS DECISION MADE. SO HE'S IN A GREAT SPOT, I THINK, TO TO GIVE HIMSELF THE BEST CHANCE.
BUT I AM IN FAVOR OF A PROCESS THAT THAT VETS, YOU KNOW, MANY CANDIDATES OR HOWEVER MANY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT APPLY TO THIS POSITION. AND AND WHOEVER GETS THE JOB IS, IS VALIDATED.
IF IT'S KEVIN, YOU KNOW, GOOD ON HIM. SO GOOD LUCK TO YOU, SIR.
I, I START WITH THE IDEA THAT WE HOLD OUR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO A LEVEL OF WE, WE HAVE TRUST, AND AND THEY HAVE INTEGRITY. AND INTEGRITY SAYS THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I COMMITTED TO A VERY, VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE THAT IF I WAS ELECTED MAYOR, I WOULD WEAR THIS HAT IN A COMMISSION MEETING.
THE LAST TIME I SAW MY GOOD FRIEND WAS IN JANUARY.
AND ON FEBRUARY 1ST, MY GOOD FRIEND ROB KNAPTON OF 51 YEARS OLD, DIED IN HIS SLEEP.
AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE WHILE HE WAS ALIVE TO FULFILL IT.
SO, ROB, I KNOW YOU'RE IN HEAVEN. YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN.
MY HATS OFF TO YOU, ROB. THIS ONE'S FOR YOU. MAY YOU REST IN PEACE.
WITH THAT. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.