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          WELCOME RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS. I GET WORRIED SOMETIMES WHEN I HAVE THIS MANY OF
OUR POLICE OFFICERS HERE. 
          [CALL TO ORDER]
I'M. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE LAW, I PROMISE. I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN KEEP. 
          I'M. I'M DRIVING A TESLA NOW AND IT KEEPS ME ON TRACK ON ON SPEED. 
          SO I'M. I KNOW I'M IN WITHIN THE LAW. BEFORE WE OPEN THE MEETING,
AS IS CUSTOMARY, WE'LL HAVE THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE COMMISSIONER. 
          RING. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR WHOM WE FIRST SERVE. WE GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO THOSE WHO RISK THEIR LIVES IN
PUBLIC SAFETY TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE PRAY A SPECIAL DIVINE HEDGE OF PROTECTION OVER THEM ALONGSIDE OUR ARMED FORCES
SERVING OUR COUNTRY ABROAD. 
          BLESS THIS MEETING AND GIVE US GUIDANCE FOR A PATH FORWARD TO THE BETTERMENT OF OUR
COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. 
          MAY YOUR GRACE, MERCY AND PEACE REST UPON US. 
          AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE
REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. RING. THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DATED MARCH 9TH, 2026, WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. 
          DONNA, CAN YOU DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER BOLE. 
          PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GRANT. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RING. PRESENT. MAYOR FORD. 
          PRESENT. THANK YOU. DONNA. WE'LL OPEN THE AGENDA WITH ITEM 1. 
          [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF MINUTES. SPECIFICALLY, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION
MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 23RD, 2026. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS CHANGES? THEN THE MINUTES WILL STAND AS SUBMITTED. 
          WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM 2 COURTESY OF THE FLORIDA VISITORS. 
          [2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS]
AND WE'LL START WITH A SPECIAL CELEBRATION TODAY. 
          AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY OFFICER HARDING, YOU HAVE BEEN ON OUR FORCE FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS
I'VE LIVED IN ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          AND I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME. AND BEFORE I FAIL TO SAY WHAT SO MANY OF US KNOW. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS. EVERY TIME I SEE YOU IN YOUR CAR,
ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET, IN FRONT OF OUR SCHOOL OR ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY IT IT BRINGS A SMILE TO MY FACE. YOU ARE A DELIGHT TO HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          YOU ARE MOST DEFINITELY PART OF THE FABRIC OF ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE TODAY. BUT FIRST MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, OFFICER HARDING. BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF GUALILLO. 
          I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE NOT NOT HOW OLD YOU ARE,
HOW OLD I AM, BUT HOW WIDELY RESPECTED AND APPRECIATED YOU ARE FOR OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR COMMUNITY, YOUR EXEMPLARY PROFESSIONALISM AS A MODEL AND HAS BEEN FOR FOR DECADES. 
          FOR ALL THE POLICE OFFICERS, YOU'RE THE GOLD STANDARD OF A COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICER. 
          AND MAN, I SURE DO APPRECIATE YOU. CHIEF GUALILLO,
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. 
          MAYOR COMMISSIONER. ROBBIE, CAN YOU STAND UP NEXT TO ME,
PLEASE? I'M NOT GOING BY MYSELF. SO WHEN I CAME HERE 35 YEARS AGO. 
          I THINK YOU HELPED TRAIN ME. AND I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE GROWN TO RESPECT YOU AS A FELLOW
OFFICER AND A FRIEND AND SOMEONE I CAN ALWAYS LEAN ON. 40 YEARS IS MORE THAN A CAREER TO LIFETIME,
BROTHER. 
          40 YEARS OF SERVICE. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S VERY MANY CHIEFS OF POLICE WHO CAN
RECOGNIZE ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS FOR 40 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THEIR COMMUNITY. 
          ROBBIE, THAT'S AN EXCEPTIONAL, EXCEPTIONAL THING TO SAY. AND I,
I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY THE MOST WELL-KNOWN OFFICER BY NAME IN THE, IN THE AGENCY. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE HEARD,
BUT I KNOW ROBBIE HARDING. 
          SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT KNOW YOU OUT THERE. 
          AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE RECEIVED COMPLIMENTS ON YOU. YOU'RE PROBABLY,
AGAIN, OVER THE YEARS, THE TIMES I'VE RECEIVED COMPLIMENTS JUST FROM PEOPLE OUT OF THE OFFICE
STOPPED TO CHANGE MY HELP ME CHANGE MY TIRE. 
          THE OFFICER HELPED ME CATCH MY DOG. THE OFFICER WENT BY MY HOUSE AND CLOSED MY DOOR FOR ME
BECAUSE I LEFT IT UNLOCKED. 
          I, I CAN'T TELL YOU, ROBBIE, HOW MANY OF THOSE SMALL THANK YOUS I'VE RECEIVED. 
          AND IT WAS YOU EVERY TIME. AND IT WAS THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE US A GREAT DEPARTMENT. 
          I TELL THE OFFICERS AT WORK HERE. WE EARN OUR REPUTATION ONE CALL AT A TIME. 
          WHEN YOU GO ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST TO CALL YOU OUT AND HELP PEOPLE IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIVES? AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT. THAT'S WHY THEY KNOW YOUR NAME,
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. THE GUIDANCE YOU PROVIDED PEOPLE HELPED SHAPE THE 
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CAREERS OF A LOT OF YOUNG OFFICERS, INCLUDING MINE. 
          SO NOT JUST THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE WORKED AS A PATROLMAN,
YOU WORKED AS A DETECTIVE, YOU'VE BEEN ON OUR SWAT TEAM, YOU'VE BEEN IN A TRAFFIC UNIT. CAN'T THINK OF ALL THE THINGS YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU'VE
ALWAYS BEEN THERE. 
          AND EVERY TIME I'VE EVER ASKED YOU FOR ANYTHING,
IT'S BEEN NO PROBLEM, I GOT IT. I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. IT'S BEEN A YES ALL THE WAY. 
          AND THAT MAKES THE AGENCY RUN, BECAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO JUST GET THINGS DONE
FOR YOU. 
          YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU'VE DONE THAT FOR 40 YEARS. 
          THE EXCELLENCE YOU'VE SERVED COMMUNITY WITH HAS MADE A LASTING IMPACT. YOU PROTECT OUR
CITY, BUT YOU ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE WHO FOLLOW IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS AND WHO CALLED YOU
FRIEND, THOSE PEOPLE WHO CALLED YOU FRIEND. I'M SURE FOR MANY,
MANY YEARS. 
          I'M NEVER GOING TO FORGET YOU, BROTHER. SO FOR YOUR FOUR DECADES OF EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE,
YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU AS PROBABLY THE FINEST OFFICER I'VE EVER HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH. THANK YOU. ROBIE. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A LOT. IT'S IT'S AN HONOR. 
          WE HAVE I THINK WE HAVE THE BEST CITIZENS THAT RECIPROCATE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE HERE FOR THAT LONG. 
          EVERYBODY'S, I JUST EVERY, WE GOT GREAT EMPLOYEES. 
          WE GOT A GREAT COMMAND STAFF. BUT OUR CITIZENS ARE WHAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT KEEPS US
GOING. 
          SO, THANK YOU ALL. SO YOU ALL CAN GIVE YOURSELVES A ROUND OF APPLAUSE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF
A TWO FOLD SITUATION. 
          BUT THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE 40 YEARS. 
          YES, SIR. OFFICER HARDING, THE CITIZENS ARE SO GOOD BECAUSE THEY MIRROR WHAT YOU BRING TO
EVERY INTERACTION. 
          IT'S YOU THAT MAKE OUR CITIZENS AS GOOD AS THEY ARE. 
          SO THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO COME DOWN OFF THE DAIS FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I WANT TO PRESENT
YOU WITH THIS. 
          SO CAN WE DO THAT? AND THEN AS SOON AS WE PRESENT IT,
WE'LL HAVE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS COME DO A PHOTO. 
          OKAY? OKAY. 
          TURN THIS AROUND, OFFICER HARDING, IF YOU WOULD. 
          YOU'RE SO TALL, YOU CAN STAND HERE. OKAY THERE'S NOT MUCH SAID ON THIS,
BUT NOT MUCH NEEDS TO BE SAID. 
          THIS CERTIFICATE, WHICH I HOPE WILL END UP IN A BETTER FRAME. 
          CAN WE DO BETTER? CAN WE? OKAY. BUT THIS IS FOR 40 YEARS OF SERVICE. 
          WITH GRATITUDE. WE THANK ROBERT HARDING, I KNOW. 
          IS ROBBIE OFFICER ROBBIE FOR HIS DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
SIGNED BY THE MAYOR, CURTIS FORD, MYSELF AND KEVIN HOGENCAMP, CITY INTERIM CITY MANAGER. 
          AND I WE WE OWE YOU MUCH MORE THAN THIS. BUT PLEASE JUST KEEP ON GOING. 
          KEEP ON DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          THAT WAS THE LONGEST STANDING OVATION IN LIKE 3 YEARS. 
          CAN I GET YOU GUYS ON THIS SIDE JUST SO I DON'T HAVE THIS PODIUM IN THE MIDDLE? LIKE, HOW ABOUT YEAH, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. ALRIGHT. 
          123. THANK YOU. 
          I YOU KNOW, I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE HAVING OUR ENTIRE WELL,
NOT OUR ENTIRE, BUT MUCH OF OUR POLICE FORCE HERE. 
          BUT YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SIT THROUGH THE ENTIRE MEETING. 
          AND IF YOU WISH, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO EXIT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. YES. THAT'S 
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FOR THE PARKING. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO OUR COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO VISITORS. 
          AT WE'VE GOT 4. OKAY. SO FOR OUR VISITORS THAT WISH TO SPEAK IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED IN,
GO AHEAD AND SIGN IN. 
          BUT WE HAVE, WE HAVE 5 MINUTES FOR EACH SPEAKER UP TO 5 MINUTES. 
          AS IS A CUSTOM HERE, WE'LL USE THE GAVEL, BUT I WON'T GAVEL YOU AT EXACTLY 5 MINUTES. 
          BUT AT 5 MINUTES AND FIVE SECONDS, YOU'LL GET THE GAVEL. 
          SO DONNA. RACHEL KRISEMAN. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, RACHEL KRISEMAN. AND ALONG WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER,
MELODIE JOYCE NELLEN, WE OWN KIDS CHILDREN'S BOUTIQUE IN THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER. 
          AND WE'VE HAD THE HONOR OF OWNING THAT SHOP FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS. 
          WE DEAL WITH CUSTOMERS EVERY SINGLE DAY, LOCAL AND VISITORS FROM OUT OF TOWN AND ALL OVER
THE METROPLEX. 
          WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT THE CITY PAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING RATE INCREASES IN
THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER. 
          SINCE THE MOST RECENT INCREASE, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN NOTICEABLE CHANGES IN CUSTOMER
BEHAVIOR. 
          MANY CUSTOMERS HAVE OPENLY TOLD US THAT THE HIGHER PARKING COSTS DISCOURAGE THEM FROM
VISITING AS OFTEN AS THEY ONCE DID. 
          OUR SALES DATA IS ALSO REFLECTING A CONTINUED DECREASE. 
          AND WHILE RETAIL IS INFLUENCED BY MANY FACTORS,
THE TIMING AND CONSISTENT FEEDBACK FROM CUSTOMERS ABOUT PARKING MAKES IT CLEAR THAT PRICING AND PAYMENT COMPLICATIONS ARE PLAYING A ROLE. 
          SO WE ARE ALSO HEARING FROM CUSTOMERS THAT FEEL RUSHED WHILE SHOPPING BECAUSE THEY ARE
WORRIED ABOUT RECEIVING A TICKET IF THEY GO EVEN A FEW MINUTES OVER THEIR PAID TIME. 
          SO NO MATTER HOW MANY HOURS THEY PAID FOR IT,
2 MINUTES AND THEN THEY GET A $60 FINE. 
          SO WE'VE SEEN THAT IT HASN'T BEEN VERY POSITIVE. 
          SO PARKING MONITORS ARE FREQUENTLY PRESENT. AND INSTEAD OF ENJOYING THE DISTRICT,
VISITORS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO WATCH THE CLOCK. 
          SO BEACHES TOWN CENTER OPERATES WITH VERY LIMITED PARKING,
SERVING DOZENS OF BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS AND BEACH VISITORS, SO EVEN SMALL CHANGES CAN SIGNIFICANT HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON VISITATION? SO WEEKEND VISITORS ARE ESPECIALLY CRITICAL TO SMALL RETAIL BUSINESSES LIKE OURS,
PROPOSALS THAT WOULD INCREASE PARKING RATES 100% FOR THESE CRUCIAL WEEKEND SHOPPERS. FROM $2.50 TO $5 PER HOUR,
THEY RISK DISCOURAGING THE VERY FAMILIES AND VISITORS WHO SUPPORT THIS DISTRICT. AS WE ARE STILL RECOVERING FROM THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS FROM THE SURPRISE PRICE
HIKE A FEW MONTHS AGO, SO THE CURRENT 25% INCREASE IS ALREADY SUBSTANTIAL,
AND WE RESPECTFULLY BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE EVALUATED FOR AT LEAST A FULL YEAR BEFORE CONSIDERING ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES. WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING TO REGAIN CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT
AND FOOT TRAFFIC THAT WAS IMPACTED FOLLOWING THAT CHANGE. 
          BEACHES TOWN CENTER THRIVES WHEN IT REMAINS WELCOMING,
WALKABLE, AND ACCESSIBLE WHEN VISITORS BEGIN CHOOSING OTHER AREAS BECAUSE OF COST OR PRESSURE ON PARKING. SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE FIRST TO FEEL THE IMPACT AND WE HAVE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO CONSIDER THE PERSPECTIVE OF LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO
EXPERIENCE THESE IMPACTS FIRSTHAND. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RACHEL, IS IT CHRIS KRISEMAN? YEAH. KRISEMAN. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SARAH BOREN. 
          SARAH BOREN, I LIVE ON 8TH STREET IN OLD ATLANTIC BEACH,
AND I'M HERE TO GIVE ESC UPDATES. 
          1ST, I'M HOPING YOU'RE AWARE OF THE MINECRAFT CHALLENGE THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. 
          THE 1ST PHASE IS ALL OF ALL SCHOOLS IN DUVAL COUNTY ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE INITIAL
CHALLENGE THAT GOES THROUGH MARCH 20TH AND ALL THE. THE WINNERS FROM THAT PHASE WILL ADVANCE TO THE
FINALS, WHICH. IT WILL INCLUDE OUR MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER AS A FINAL CHALLENGE. 
          AND THAT IS THE CHALLENGE WILL BE HOW TO MAKE IT AS A RESILIENCE HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
THAT THAT EVENT IS HAPPENING ON APRIL 17TH DOWNTOWN AT THE WJCT STUDIOS, IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE. 
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IT IS QUITE AN EVENT. THEY'VE GOT THE BIG GREEN SCREEN AND THE COUNTDOWN AND THE 2
ELEMENTARY TEAMS AND 2 MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAMS, 2 HIGH SCHOOL TEAMS AND 2 COLLEGE TEAMS COMPETE FOR LIVE FOR THE FINAL PRIZE. 
          AND THERE'S MONEY. SO ANYWAYS, WE'RE EXCITED TO SCALE EDUCATION AT THE AT THE YOUTH LEVEL
ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCE AND BRINGING IT HOME SECOND. 
          ON THIS PAST SATURDAY, MARCH 7TH, WE HAD AN AMAZING TURNOUT FOR NATIVE PLANTING AND HOW
PARK 28 VOLUNTEERS GOT THEIR HANDS DIRTY. 
          PLANTED OVER 300 NATIVE PLANTS, INCLUDING 11 DIFFERENT SPECIES THAT PROVIDES BERRIES AND
BLOOMS. SPECIAL THANKS TO CITY STAFF WHO ALSO SUPPORTED THE DAY,
INCLUDING AMANDA, ASKEW, KRYSTAL, KIRSTEN, TRAVIS AND MATT. THEY HELPED UNLOAD AND ORGANIZE PLANTS FOR EACH PLANTING ZONE. 
          DELIVERED MULCH, HELPED CLEAN UP EMPTY PLANTING POTS,
SUPPORTING WATERING UNTIL ESTABLISHED AND WERE VERY GENERALLY WAS A GREAT PART OF THE SPIRIT OF THE DAY. FOR THE LIGHTS OUT NORTH FLORIDA MAYOR I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR OR
WANTS TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SIGNING THE PROCLAMATION. ELIZABETH PHILIP I THINK I'M GETTING HER NAME WRONG. 
          UNFORTUNATELY COULD NOT MAKE IT TONIGHT. SHE WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU. AND THIS IS
ABOUT PROTECTING OUR MIGRATORY BIRDS AND OUR SEA TURTLES, AND THE SEASON IS FROM MARCH 15TH THROUGH MAY 15TH,
AND THEN SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH NOVEMBER 15TH. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY AND GETTING THAT WORD OUT IN EDUCATION. 
          AND THEN TO PROMOTE ONE EVENT APRIL 2ND ESC IS HOSTING A SPEAKER SERIES WITH ELIZABETH
ABOUT LIGHTS OUT IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA HERE IN THE CHAMBERS STARTING AT SIX. 
          I ALSO WANTED TO, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THE WORKSHOP ON THE SECOND,
BUT I HEARD THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A TOWN HALL ON APRIL 11TH. 
          IT'S FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THE TREE CANOPY. 
          SO THAT'S SUPER EXCITING. AND WE'LL WORK HARD TO GET THE WORD OUT ON THAT. 
          AND THEN TAKING OFF MY ESC HAT AND PUTTING ON MY HAT. 
          ONE IDEA ON THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE THAT I HEARD CAME UP IN THE WORKSHOP WAS OR ONE IDEA IS
PART OF THE ISSUE IS SMALL LOTS IS THIS PARKING ISSUE. RIGHT? AND I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T BE CREATIVE AND I
DON'T WANT TO BURDEN A BUILDER OR DEVELOPER TO HAVE TO SUBMIT ANOTHER THING LIKE A PARKING PLAN. BUT I THINK IF WE CAN HAVE THEM PARK AROUND THE CORNER
RATHER THAN ON THE FLARES, THE TREES. I'VE SEEN CITIES SET UP DESIGNATED LIKE TEMPORARY CHALK IN THE STREET. 
          I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULDN'T WORK ON SOME OF OUR ARTERIES,
BUT ON OTHERS. SO I'M THINKING IF WE CAN JUST PUT OUR CREATIVE HATS ON, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS. AND THAT'S IT. THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. SARAH. NANCY STOTZ. THAT'S QUICK. HI, EVERYONE. GREETINGS, NANCY STOTZ. EVERYTHING'S ON RECORD. 
          WELL, IT'S WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, SO HAPPY WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH TO THE LADIES. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GO BACK IN TIME. A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN LEAH'S,
WHO IS CURTIS'S WIFE, HELD A LARGE GROUP MEETING CALLED WOMEN ON WATER. 
          THIS WAS BACK IN THE SPRING. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE,
BUT AROUND THE SPRING TO SUMMER OF 2023, WHEN WE FIRST WERE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING EXTRA WATER FOR NEPTUNE BEACH. 
          AT THAT MEETING AND SUBSEQUENT MEETINGS WITH THE WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF MANY WONDERFUL
WOMEN, AS IT TURNED OUT, I THINK MOSTLY WOMEN SHOWED UP TO THE MEETING. 
          BUT THERE WERE SOME REALLY WONDERFUL QUESTIONS GENERATED FROM THAT MEETING. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO TO TAKE A LOOK BACK BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD OF
THIS PROPOSED SO-CALLED FIRE LINE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THE COST OF ADDING THIS EXTENSION IS ESTIMATED BETWEEN 270 AND $280,000,
BUT THIS WAS BACK IN JUNE OF 23 NUMBERS. SO I'M ASSUMING WE'RE LOOKING AT MID THREES BY NOW AT LEAST. 
          THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THE QUESTION AND ANSWERS ABOUT PRECEDENT IN BACK
IN THE 80S, THERE WAS A TRILATERAL AGREEMENT AS OPPOSED TO JUST AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY
OF AB, CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH AND THE DEVELOPER. AND IT WAS A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEY
PROVIDED WATER AND SEWER. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT A MORE OPEN ENDED STRICTLY FIRE SUPPRESSION,
APPARENTLY WITHOUT ANY INCOME POTENTIAL. 
          AND I JUST FEEL THAT MOST CITIZENS ARE NOT AWARE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE MOST OF US
REALLY THOUGHT THERE WAS SUCH PUBLIC OUTCRY OVER IT 
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THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS WAS REALLY NOT GOING TO PROCEED. 
          WHAT'S VERY EVIDENT TO ME AND TO ANYONE REALLY LOOKING AT THIS COMPLETELY HONESTLY ON THE
SURFACE, IS THIS IS NOT HELPING THE CITIZENS OF NEPTUNE BEACH. 
          IF IT WERE, I WOULD BE AMONG THE 1ST PEOPLE TO RAISE MY HAND AND SAY,
YES, WE SHOULD HELP THEM IF THEY NEED IT FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION, IF THEY NEEDED IT FOR POTABLE WATER, IF THEY NEEDED IT FOR SEWAGE. 
          WHAT WE'RE HELPING, WE'RE ASSISTING TRIBRIDGE,
THE DEVELOPER, TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE ASSISTING THEM TO BE ABLE TO SELL THIS PARTIAL, WHICH THEY BOUGHT, UNFORTUNATELY, WITHOUT DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE,
IT SOUNDS LIKE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM. AND SO WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $2,500 ON THE FEASIBILITY. 
          WE'RE ONGOING ATTORNEY FEES AND STAFF FEES. ET CETERA. 
          IT'S A $280,000 TO 300 AND WHATEVER THOUSAND. 
          NOW TO DO IT AND DOWN THE ROAD MAINTENANCE. WHAT ARE THE WHAT ARE THE POTENTIAL PITFALLS,
AS YOU SAID. 
          MAYOR COMMISSIONER FORD IN THE LAST MEETING,
WHENEVER YOU GO INTO AN AGREEMENT, THERE'S RISK, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER AND SIGN IT WITH A LAWYER. YOU'RE BOTH
TAKING A RISK, BUT I'M UNCLEAR WHETHER THIS CAN BE DONE. JUST BETWEEN CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH AND US. 
          DO WE NEED TO BRING IN THE DEVELOPER? IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF SKIN IN THE GAME, SO I JUST HAVE MORE QUESTIONS THAN THAN ANSWERS. 
          I WOULD APPRECIATE MORE TRANSPARENCY. I THINK KEVIN'S NOTE IN ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH
THE IN RUSSELL PARK, WITH THE EQUIPMENT, WHEN THE CITIZENS ARE A LITTLE BIT BLINDSIDED,
IT'S NOT AS GOOD AS IF WE'RE GIVEN A LITTLE BIT OF A HEADS UP. 
          AND I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT ISSUE WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SORT OF TRANSPARENCY,
GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT BEFORE WE DUMP ANY MORE MONEY INTO IT. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO USE MY LAST MINUTE TO SAY THAT I WOULD LOVE ALL THESE
DOCUMENTS TO BECOME PART OF THE RECORD, BY THE WAY. I'LL GIVE THESE TO YOU, DONNA. THAT KEVIN,
YOU'RE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB. 
          I HEAR NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU, WHICH IS HARD TO DO IN THIS DAY AND AGE. 
          I THINK YOU STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS TO PROVE GOING FORWARD AS AS WE ALL KNOW,
AND IF THE DECISION IS TO CONTINUE THE SEARCH. 
          I HOPE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS. THIS IS NOT TO SAY WE WOULDN'T BE DELIGHTED. 
          WITH KEVIN, GIVEN WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE OR WHAT OTHER CHOICES WE HAVE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR EXCELLENT JOB THAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR. 
          IT'S A LOT GOING ON AND HAVING TO DEAL WITH A LOT OF CHANGES QUICKLY IS DIFFICULT. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU, REALLY I DO. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DOCTOR STOTZ. JENNIFER BOSMA. 
          HELLO. MY NAME IS JENNIFER BOSMAN. I'M FROM NEPTUNE BEACH AND I RODE MY BIKE HERE. 
          I TELL YOU, IT IS REALLY FUN TO GET TO RIDE AROUND. 
          1ST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO BEING THE UNSUNG HEROES THAT YOU ARE. 
          I AM HERE REPRESENTING KIDS. IT IS JUST THE COOLEST LITTLE BOUTIQUE AND I CAN WALK THERE
BECAUSE I LIVE IN NEPTUNE BEACH. 
          BUT I AM REALLY COMING TO YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FRONT PARKING SPOT,
AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO PARK IN A FRONT PARKING SPOT AT A REDUCED AT THE 250 PLEASE, BECAUSE I AM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN CUSTOMERS COME IN,
WE TALK ABOUT THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING LOCAL IN THE BIG WORLD OF THE AMAZON AND THE BEST BUYS AND ALL THE THINGS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME LOCAL. 
          WE WANT THEM TO FIND A FRONT PARKING SPOT OR ANY FRONT PARKING SPOT. 
          WE WANT THEM TO COME AND NOT BE PENALIZED FOR THE HIGH RATE. 
          I HAVE SEEN THE FRUSTRATION OF THE STROLLERS WITH THE MAMAS AND THE KIDS RUSHING. 
          THEY WANT TO RUSH IT TO GET OUT BECAUSE THEIR PARKING IS DUE. 
          AND I'VE EVEN HEARD PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 5 MORE
MINUTES ON THE PARKING METER AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE CHARGED MORE. 
          IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHEN THINGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE,
WE WANT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. 
          WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE COMING OVER THE DITCH TO COME TO KIDS. 
          I WOULD REALLY RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO KEEP IT AT THE MINIMAL RATE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN
PRICES GO DOWN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO RUSH OUT AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO TRY ON THE OUTFIT OR, YOU KNOW, AND KIDS, Y'ALL KIDS TAKE A WHILE TO MAKE THE DECISION. 
          AND MOMS COME IN VERY PICKY ABOUT THEY WON'T WEAR THAT,
THEY WILL WEAR THAT. 
          BUT IF THEY GET A CHANCE TO TRY ON SOMETHING,
I AM JUST COMING TO ASK YOU ALL TO REALLY THINK ABOUT NOT RAISING THE PRICE SO WE CAN GET THE WALKABILITY, WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO DRIVE,
AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO PARK AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THEIR PRICE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND I USED TO BE A TEACHER,
AND THIS IS FUN TALKING IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU JENNIFER. 
          JENNIFER. DID YOU GET HER NAME? IS IT BOWSER? B O S M A. YEAH, THAT'S. THANK YOU. JENNIFER. 
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OKAY. JACKIE BECKENBAUER. GOOD EVENING. COMMISSIONERS MAYOR CITY STAFF. I HAD A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO CHAT ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          THE 1ST BEING I WAS REALLY PLEASED WHEN I SAT IN ON THE ESC COMMISSION MEETING TO LISTEN
IN ON THE PRIORITIES THAT OUR MARINE FOREST IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. I THINK THAT'S SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 
          WITH THE TREES, THE IMPROVING OUR AIR QUALITY,
FLOOD CONTROL, WIND MITIGATION, ALL OF THAT. 
          I DID WANT TO COMMENT KIND OF ON YOUR COMMENT. 
          MAYOR FORD, I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH THESE POSTAGE STAMP LOTS THAT WE HAVE THE 50 BY
100, YOU WERE SUGGESTING MAYBE THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THE CITY STAFF TO GIVE PEOPLE LENIENCY ON
EITHER FRONT AND BACK FOOTAGE, HOW FAR THEY NEED TO BE FROM,
FROM THE FRONT AND THE BACK OR POTENTIALLY ELIMINATING ON SITE WATER STORAGE. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST RATHER THAN MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO OVER BUILD
ON A LOT OR TO GO TO THE MAX. 
          THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT MAYBE GOING TO A 35% COVERAGE,
WHICH WOULD ELIMINATE ON SITE WATER STORAGE ALTOGETHER. 
          WOULD POTENTIALLY PROTECT TREES THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO ELIMINATE. 
          AND BASED ON CHATGPT, YOU ON A 50 BY 100 LOT WITH A 35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AND A 35% COVERAGE LIMIT, YOU COULD STILL BUILD A 5250 SQUARE FOOT HOME,
WHICH IN MY OPINION, IS A PRETTY GOOD SIZE HOME, AND ANYBODY OUGHT TO BE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT. 
          BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GO DOWN RATHER THAN THAN MORE LENIENT WITH DEVELOPERS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO TO MAKE THOSE COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS. 
          SECONDLY I ALSO LIKE THE COMMISSION TO HOLD OFF ON SPENDING MONEY ON A ON A SEARCH. 
          I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE MR. HOGENCAMP HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE HIMSELF TO GET
THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS AND TO. 
          I THINK SO FAR HE'S DEMONSTRATED, YOU KNOW, GREAT COMMUNICATION WITH FOLKS IN THE CITY,
GREAT ACCESSIBILITY WHEN YOU NEED TO SCHEDULE A MEETING. 
          AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER,
WHY NOT HAVE THAT PERSON BE IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO STEP INTO THE ROLE OF THE CITY MANAGER? TO ME, THAT JUST MAKES LIKE A VICE PRESIDENT AND A PRESIDENT,
YOU WOULDN'T DO A SEARCH FOR A VICE PRESIDENT IF THE PRESIDENT GOT SHOT. 
          ALTHOUGH IN OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, I MIGHT RETHINK THAT. 
          BUT SO I WOULD LIKE TO I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          I'D LOVE TO SEE KEVIN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVE HIMSELF. 
          WE SHOULD REALLY GET THROUGH THIS NEXT ELECTION CYCLE. 
          SO WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE THE CITY MANAGER WILL KNOW WHO THEY'RE WORKING FOR,
AND IT WOULD SAVE THE CITY SOME SOME MONIES TO NOT BE SPENDING THAT ON A SEARCH WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY NOT IN THE POSITION THAT WE WILL BE IN NINE
MONTHS FROM NOW. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, I ALSO WANTED TO COMMENT, AS DOCTOR STATS DID,
ON THE NEPTUNE BEACH WATER SITUATION, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A FINISHED ISSUE. I WAS ACTUALLY SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT WE WERE BACK
TALKING ABOUT SELLING OUR WATER OR SETTING UP A WATER AGREEMENT WITH NEPTUNE BEACH. I DON'T SEE,
AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VALUE OF THAT IS TO THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. NEPTUNE BEACH IS NOT A WELL RUN CITY. 
          US SELLING THEM WATER DOES NOT BENEFIT THEIR CITIZENS IN ANY WAY. 
          WE WOULD STRICTLY BE HELPING A DEVELOPER, WHICH AGAIN,
I DON'T THINK THAT'S OUR ROLE. 
          WE SHOULDN'T BE IN A PLACE WHERE WE'RE HERE TO JUST SUPPORT DEVELOPERS. 
          AND IF IT WAS TO NANCY'S POINT, IF THIS WAS GOING TO HELP THE CITIZENS,
IT WAS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, FURTHER THEIR WATER PRESSURE OR HELP PROTECT THEIR HOMES,
I'D BE ALL FOR THAT. 
          BUT I REALLY FEEL LIKE FOR US TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH NEPTUNE BEACH TO HELP A DEVELOPER, JUST TO ME DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE OR AS A CITIZEN. 
          SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO REALLY RETHINK MOVING FORWARD WITH DOING THAT,
BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION MAY DECIDE IT'S JUST FOR FIRE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTION. THE NEXT COMMISSION MAY GO,
WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE A LINE HOOKED IN. 
          WHY NOT JUST SELL THEM WATER AND THEN WE'RE IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT PLACE. 
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SO I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. AND AGAIN,
THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. 
          I THINK YOU YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS JOB, AN IMPORTANT ONE FOR ALL OF US CITIZENS. 
          AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU JACKIE. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE TO
CITY MANAGER REPORTS. 
          [3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS]
MR. HOGENCAMP, THANK YOU. MAYOR FORD MAYOR COMMISSION. 
          FIRST, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO ACCEPT THE 90 DAY CALENDAR. 
          ANY CHANGES? CORRECTIONS? YES. JUST ONE. THAT SATURDAY OR. 
          I'M SORRY, THE SUNDAY AFTER MARCH 8TH. I THINK THERE'S A TYPO THERE. 
          AT LEAST MINE SAYS MARCH 8TH TWICE SLASH 15. ALRIGHTY. 
          WE'LL WE'LL FIND THAT AND CORRECT THAT. THANKS. OKAY. 
          IF THERE ARE NO OTHER CORRECTIONS DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS? OKAY, YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR. HUNDRED. THANK YOU. 
          MOVING ON. AND AS PART OF THIS NEXT ITEM, WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU BY THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT. 
          TODAY OUR STAFF PUBLISHED A STRATEGY REPORT ON E-BIKE SAFETY AND INTEGRATED POLICY. 
          THIS DOCUMENT OUTLINES OUR PROACTIVE, MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH TO MANAGING E-BIKE USAGE,
FOCUSING ON PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH RIGOROUS OVERSIGHT. 
          WE'RE UTILIZING EXPANDED LEGAL AUTHORITY. WE'RE REGULATING E-BIKE SPEEDS AND PEDESTRIAN
PEDESTRIAN ZONES. 
          WE HAVE STEPPED UP ENFORCEMENT AND ARE STEPPING UP OUR MESSAGING WITH CLEAR WITH CLEAR
TARGETED MESSAGES TO PARENTS. 
          AMONG OTHER TARGET GROUPS. OUR STRATEGY, WE THINK BALANCES NECESSARY ENFORCEMENT WITH WITH
PUBLIC EDUCATION AND ALSO THEIR SIGNAGE AS PART OF THIS. AND WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
WHO'S GOING TO COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO I THINK ALL OF US ARE AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT A UNIQUELY ATLANTIC BEACH PROBLEM. 
          AS MANY OF YOU HAVE SEEN, THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS ADDRESSING THIS NOW AT TALLAHASSEE. 
          SO I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS GREAT. 
          BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S ACROSS THE STATE. 
          THESE BIKES HAVE BEEN A AN ECONOMIC BOOM FOR THE RETAILERS. 
          BUT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT BEEN READY FOR THEM. 
          SO WE'RE RESPONDING AND REACTING TO SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE RETAIL WORLD THAT'S NOW
AFFECTING OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          I'VE ASKED THE LIEUTENANT JAMISON TO COME UP AND DO THE PRESENTATION. HE HAS SPEARHEADED
THE PATROL RESPONSE FOR THE PAST YEAR AT LEAST TO E-BIKES AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM OUR CITIZENS AND THINGS WE'VE SEEN ACROSS OUR CITY AND THE BEACHES AND IN GENERAL. 
          SO I'M GOING TO ASK HIM IF HE WOULD PLEASE PRESENT THIS AND HE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN LONG BEACH ALSO. 
          GOOD EVENING, CHASE JAMISON. I'M THE PATROL LIEUTENANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AS LEILA SAID, E-BIKE USAGE AND POPULARITY HAS REALLY EXPLODED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          IT'S BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY NOW. IT'S, IT'S,
WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE IMPLEMENTATION, USE OF E-BIKES BY CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE AREA AT ALL AGES. WITH THAT COMES SOME CHALLENGES AND SOME CONCERNS AS YOU HAVE ALL ADDRESSED. 
          AND AS THE COMMUNITY HAS EXPRESSED MULTIPLE TIMES SPEEDS ARE A LOT FASTER AND THEY'RE MORE
CAPABLE OF HITTING HIGHER SPEEDS. 
          TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY OUTPACED LEGISLATION AND REGULATION. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT LIMITED TO JUST E-BIKES,
BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT ANY KIND OF TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION AND SAFETY IS A CONCERN, ESPECIALLY AS THE SPEEDS GO FASTER, INJURY SEVERITY INCREASES. 
          SO SOME OF THE SAFETY TECHNOLOGY, LIKE HELMETS THAT MIGHT BE NORMAL FOR BICYCLES,
DON'T AREN'T AS EFFECTIVE AT THOSE HIGHER SPEEDS. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WITH E-BIKES. 
          1 OF THE BIG THINGS LATELY THAT HAS REALLY BEEN A BIG THING IN THE NEWS IS CRASHES,
PARTICULARLY FATAL CRASHES WITHIN ATLANTIC BEACH ITSELF. 
          OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS, WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE CRASH DATA THAT WE HAVE. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STATISTICS UP THERE 17 CRASHES IN 2024 INVOLVING BICYCLES,
E-BIKES, OR PERSONAL MOBILITY DEVICES, THINGS LIKE SCOOTERS THAT ARE ENCOMPASSED IN THAT,
THAT UMBRELLA, BUT NOT NECESSARILY A BIKE OR E-BIKE, THAT HAS COME DOWN SINCE. 
          IN 2025 WE WENT FROM 17 TO 13. ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES EXCEPT FOR PMD'S WENT DOWN AND PMD
ONLY WENT UP BY ONE FROM 1 TO 2. 
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WE'VE SEEN THE AVERAGE AGE OF RIDERS INVOLVED IN THE CRASHES ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER
EXCEPT FOR E-BIKES. 
          WE'VE NOTICED THOSE ARE INVOLVING MORE YOUNGER FOLKS. 
          STILL NOT SOLELY JUVENILES BUT CERTAINLY YOUNGER RIDERS COMPARED TO BICYCLES. 
          WE DO HAVE A COUPLE JUVENILES IN EACH YEAR. AND WHEN I SAY JUVENILE,
THAT'S 18 OR YOUNGER, LOOKING AT THE DATA, IT'S GENERALLY TEENAGERS,
NOT, NOT REAL YOUNG KIDS, BUT GENERALLY TEENAGERS. 
          AND LUCKILY FOR ATLANTIC BEACH, WE'VE HAD NO SERIOUS INJURIES AT ALL. 
          EVERYTHING'S BEEN EITHER MINOR OR POSSIBLE WHERE THEY'RE COMPLAINING OF PAIN,
BUT THERE'S NO OBVIOUS INJURY OBSERVED. 
          SO 52, ABOUT HALF OF CRASHES ARE THE FAULT OF THE BICYCLISTS,
THE NON MOTORIST IN THESE CRASHES. 
          1 OF THE BIGGER CONCERNS FOR US IS SOME OF THE NEW BIKES AND TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING OUT, WHERE THEY'RE NOT REALLY MEETING THE DEFINITION STATUTORILY OF WHAT AN E-BIKE IS,
AND THEY'RE MORE OF BASICALLY ELECTRONIC MOTORCYCLES. 
          STATE LAW DEFINES WHAT AN E-BIKE IS AS LESS THAN 100 OR 750W,
HAS A MAXIMUM SPEED OF 228 MILES AN HOUR OR LESS, DEPENDING ON THE CLASS. THERE'S THREE CLASSES. THEY HAVE TO HAVE PEDALS,
AND THEY CAN CHANGE BASED OFF OF HOW THE THROTTLES ARE USED OR HOW FAST IT'LL GO WITH ELECTRONIC MOTORCYCLES OR MOTOS. 
          THEY ARE GENERALLY OVER 750W, OFTEN 1000 OR 2000. 
          I'VE SEEN SOME THAT ARE 5000W OF POWER. THEY GO IN EXCESS OF 28 MILES AN HOUR. 
          WE'VE SEEN SPEEDS OF 40 TO 50 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE ON SOME OF THOSE. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE PEDALS OR THE PEDALS ARE JUST NONFUNCTIONING. 
          THEY'RE JUST KIND OF THERE. AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THESE MANUFACTURERS ARE BUILDING KITS
JUST TO STICK ON THERE TO KIND OF MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE E-BIKES. 
          AND THEY'RE ADVERTISED AS ELECTRONIC BIKES, BUT THEY ARE NOT E-BIKES. 
          THEY DON'T MEET ANY OF THE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A GRAY AREA WITH THOSE
STATUTES. 
          FLORIDA STATUTE HASN'T REALLY CAUGHT UP WITH THOSE E-MOTORS VERSUS E-BIKES. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT WITH SOME OF THE PENDING STATE LEGISLATION. BUT
AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY MOTOR VEHICLES. THEY'RE MOTORCYCLES, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE RIDING THEM WITHOUT PROPER REGISTRATIONS,
WITHOUT DRIVER'S LICENSES. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE SEEING MORE OF THOSE. SO FAR TO DATE,
WHAT HAVE WE KIND OF DONE IN 2025? YOU ALL PASSED A NEW ORDINANCE 20 1-107 REGULATING BICYCLES,
E-BIKES, AND PERSONAL MOBILITY DEVICES THAT KIND OF IMPROVED THE LAWS LOCALLY WITHIN ATLANTIC BEACH, WE IMPLEMENTED SOME SPEED LIMITS ON THE ROADWAYS,
SIDEWALKS, MULTI-USE PATHS, SET RESTRICTIONS ON WHERE THEY CAN RIDE SPECIFICALLY IN SOME OF OUR PARKS AND HOW THEY DO
THAT. 
          AND CREATED SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFE OPERATION,
THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES AND IMPLEMENTED A $50 FINE FOR VIOLATIONS. 
          AND IT REALLY IMPROVED ON THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS IN STATE STATUTE THAT WHICH STILL ALL
THESE BICYCLES AND E-BIKES HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. 
          THEY STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE STATE LAWS. BUT IT EXPANDED THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE
THAN AND MADE IT A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ON SOME OF THOSE THINGS, PARTICULARLY SPEED LIMITS. 
          WHICH AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THESE THINGS GO FAST. 
          WE'VE REALLY DONE A LOT IN THE POLICE 1EPARTMENT. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF EDUCATION
INITIATIVES WITH AND PARTICULARLY PARTNERING WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL A, B, E AND WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE SAFETY EVENTS UP THERE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH UF HEALTH AND THE
DUVAL COUNTY COMMUNITY TRAFFIC SAFETY TEAM TO PROVIDE BICYCLE SAFETY EDUCATION. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT E-BIKES WITH ALL THE
KIDS. 
          WE ALL WE DID WITH THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADES. 
          SO EACH TIME WAS ABOUT 275 KIDS. SO WE'VE DONE THAT A FEW TIMES. 
          WE'VE DONE SOCIAL MEDIA AND TIP CARDS, CONTACT WITH CITIZENS AND KIDS ON A PERSONAL LEVEL
WHEN WE'RE DOING ENFORCEMENT AND TALKING WITH FOLKS, AND WE'VE ALSO STARTED A HELMET DISTRIBUTION PROGRAM FOR KIDS WEAR
THAT FOR HELMETS THAT WE'VE PURCHASED AND ALSO RECEIVED DONATIONS FROM CITIZEN GROUPS SUCH AS THE ROTARY CLUB THAT PROVIDED US HELMETS TO DISTRIBUTE. 
          AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE STATISTICS. 
          I'LL LEAVE THAT UP THERE FOR A SECOND. IN 2025 WE STARTED TRACKING EXACTLY HOW MANY STOPS
WE MADE FOR BICYCLES OR E-BIKES. 
          WE USE A SPECIFIC SIGNAL. AND IN 2025, WE MADE 388 BICYCLE STOPS. 
          AND OF THOSE STOPS, WE WROTE 44 CITATIONS, 14 OF WHICH WERE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE MUNICIPAL
ORDINANCE THAT WAS PASSED IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR. 
          WE ISSUED 112 WRITTEN WARNINGS AND 233 VERBAL WARNINGS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE MADE 9 ARRESTS BASED OFF OF NOT NECESSARILY AN E-BIKE VIOLATION,
BUT FROM THE STOP, WE'VE UNCOVERED SOME SORT OF CRIMINAL CONDUCT WHERE WE'VE MADE AN ARREST. 
          IN 2026 FOR JUST FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY, WE'VE MADE 52 STOPS,
ISSUED 8 CITATIONS. 
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AND YOU CAN SEE THE STATS THERE AND TWO ARRESTS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO KEEP TRACKING THAT AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU WHAT
WE DID LAST YEAR AND WHERE WE'RE AT SO FAR THIS YEAR. JUST FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS, I TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIPS. WE WORKED WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES HERE AT THE BEACH,
INCLUDING NEPTUNE BEACH AND JAX BEACH. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER GROUPS FDOT, TRAFFIC SAFETY TEAM, UF HEALTH, AND AS WELL AS THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO ON SOME OF
THESE INITIATIVES. 
          AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHAT, WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST
YEAR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IN 2026 IS CONTINUE THAT EDUCATION. 
          WE WANT TO DEVELOP ADDITIONAL EDUCATION MATERIALS,
HANDOUTS. 
          WORK ON SOME ADDITIONAL SOCIAL MEDIA AND PSA CAMPAIGNS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THAT STRATEGIC
INITIATIVE THAT CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP MENTIONED. 
          WE ALSO WANT TO CONTINUE DOING DIRECTED ENFORCEMENT. SO THAT'S TARGETED ENFORCEMENT
CAMPAIGNS AND PATROLLING CERTAIN AREAS, DEPLOYING OUR BIKE TEAM OFFICERS TO GET OUT AND BE A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE IN THAT AND
DOING ADDITIONAL DEPLOYMENTS. 
          WHILE WE STILL WANT TO EMPHASIZE EDUCATION AND VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE,
WE, WE WILL BE PICKING UP OUR ENFORCEMENT AS WELL. 
          NOT A 0 TOLERANCE LIKE EVERYBODY, ANYBODY DOING ANYTHING IS GOING TO GET A TICKET. 
          WE STILL WANT TO FOCUS ON EDUCATION, BUT DO A LITTLE MORE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL. 
          CONTINUING THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WITH ALL THOSE GROUPS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT,
THE TPO, OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY PARTNERS SUCH AS UF HEALTH AND
CITIZEN GROUPS CONTINUING THAT DONATION PROGRAM OR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY FROM CITIZEN GROUPS TO CONTINUE THOSE. 
          CITY MANAGER. HOGENCAMP MENTIONED THE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY IS WORKING ON AND
HAS IMPLEMENTED AND STARTED THAT'S KIND OF LOOKING AT A HOLISTIC APPROACH FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES, FROM PLANNING, FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT,
FROM ENGINEERING, FROM THE CITY OF PUBLIC WORKS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. WE'VE KIND OF DEVELOPED THAT INTO FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS THAT WE ARE
LOOKING AT. 
          THAT INCLUDES LEGISLATIVE ENFORCEMENT. FRAMEWORKS ARE IMPROVING AND ENHANCING OUR LOCAL
LEGISLATION. 
          MESSAGING AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. AND THEN THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. SO
THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THOSE FOUR KEY AREAS I'LL GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE. AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN I REFERENCE THOSE KIND OF ALREADY MENTIONED THAT ENFORCEMENT FRAMEWORK
AND CURRENT LEGISLATION. 
          SO WE'LL KIND OF MOVE PAST THAT 1 ON TO THE NEXT ONE. 
          FOR ENHANCING LOCAL LEGISLATION, THERE ARE A FEW OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT RIGHT NOW IN
THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE. 
          AT THE STATE LEVEL, THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED CHANGES THAT ARE COMING OUT RIGHT NOW. 
          THE PRIMARY ONES LEGALLY AS FAR AS REGULATION IS IMPOSING A TEN MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT. 
          WHENEVER A BIKE COMES WITHIN 50FT OF A PEDESTRIAN ON A SIDEWALK OR SHARED PATH,
AND AS WELL AS BIKE RIDERS HAVING TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS AND GIVE SOME SORT OF SIGNAL BEFORE PASSING THEM ON MULTI-USE PATHS. OUR ORDINANCE ALREADY HAS THAT IN PLACE BASED OFF
OF THE WAY WE WROTE IT. 
          SO THOSE CHANGES REALLY DON'T AFFECT ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER OPTIONS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
IMPROVING SOME CRASH REPORT DATA BY REQUIRING SOME E-BIKE SPECIFIC TRACKING AND THEN A, CREATING A STATE TASK FORCE TO STUDY ISSUES AND DEVELOP SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STATE
LEGISLATURE. 
          THERE WAS AN INITIAL PROPOSAL TO HAVE SOME LICENSING REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO E-BIKE USAGE
AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CLASSIFICATION CHANGES. 
          HOWEVER, THOSE WERE PULLED FROM THE ACTUAL BILL AND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE CURRENT
LEGISLATION AS OF TODAY. 
          I THINK IT'S MADE IT THROUGH THE SENATE AND IS NOW PENDING A VOTE IN THE HOUSE BEFORE
MOVING ON. 
          THAT'S WHERE THAT THAT LEGISLATION IS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART,
THAT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. 
          THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR ENHANCEMENTS TO THE
CITY'S ORDINANCES. 
          THESE ARE ALL JUST EARLY IN EARLY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THEY'RE NOT ANY KIND OF FORMAL PROPOSALS. THEY STILL NEED SOME CITY VETTING STAFF VETTING
AND SOME LEGAL REVIEW FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE ANY OF THIS ACTUALLY MAKES IT TO YOU GUYS FOR DISCUSSION. BUT THESE ARE SOME IDEAS THAT HAVE KIND OF POPPED UP IN OTHER PLACES. 
          AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF THROWING THIS OUT HERE SAYING,
HEY, HERE'S SOME IDEAS THAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER LOCATIONS THAT MIGHT WORK HERE AND THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER. SOME OF THOSE ARE SOME MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENTS FOR RIDING AN
E-BIKE AS WELL AS POSSESSION OF A GOVERNMENT PHOTO ID. THOSE ARE ALLOWED PER STATUTE AND UNDER CURRENT STATUTES THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS
MAY SET A MINIMUM AGE REQUIREMENT. 
          AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE 14 OR 16 YEARS OLD TO RIDE AN E-BIKE BASED ON CLASSES. 
          AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UP FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION AND REVIEW. 
          ALSO STATE LAW PROHIBITS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SET REQUIREMENTS THAT ANYONE RIDING OR
OPERATING AN E-BIKE HAS A GOVERNMENT ISSUED PHOTO ID WITH THEM WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, SIMILAR TO A MOTOR VEHICLE, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING A CAR,
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE. THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS FOR EMPOWERMENT. 
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I MENTIONED THOSE ELECTRONIC MOTORCYCLES. IF WE FIND THOSE TYPE OF VEHICLES OR I'M SORRY
BICYCLES AND RIDING AROUND, THEY'RE NOT LEGAL. THEY'RE NOT AN E-BIKE, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY IMPOUND THOSE SIMILAR
TO WHAT WE WOULD DO IF SOMEONE'S OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE WITHOUT PROPER REGISTRATION, PROPER DRIVER'S LICENSE, THOSE THINGS. 
          IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS BASICALLY OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE THAT'S NOT
REGISTERED. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE LICENSING. THAT'S WHAT WE DO IF SOMEONE WAS DOING THAT WITH A VEHICLE. SO
THAT IS AN OPTION. 
          THERE'S STILL A LOT OF LEGAL STUFF WE'VE GOT TO LOOK INTO ABOUT THAT. 
          SO POINT OF SALE DISCLOSURE THAT TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPING A FACT SHEET FOR FOLKS THAT
PURCHASE E-BIKES WITHIN THE CITY THAT EXPLAIN SOME OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, PART OF THAT EDUCATION AS WELL. 
          AND THEN DOING SOME STUFF WITH PARK RULES VIOLATIONS OUTRIGHT PROHIBITING E-BIKES WITHIN
PARKS, NOT JUST UNDER POWER AS OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS. 
          AND MAYBE IT'S STREAMLINING SOME OF THOSE ORDINANCES RELATED TO ENFORCING PARK RULES AND
HOW THOSE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES GO. 
          1 OF THE KEY COMPONENTS IS MESSAGING AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. 
          CITY MANAGER ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BRIDGE THAT GAP
BETWEEN REGULATION AND BEHAVIOR. AND WE WANT TO DO SOME CAMPAIGNING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON ANY NEW OR EXISTING LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE REGULATING E-BIKES. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN INCREASE COMPLIANCE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE OPERATING THESE THINGS SAFELY
AS THEY RIDE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          SOME EXAMPLES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS A HASHTAG BUYSMART AB CAMPAIGN,
WHERE WE FOCUS ON THREE C'S, WHERE CLASS, WHERE YOU'RE KNOWING WHAT YOUR BIKE IS,
COMPLIANCE, KNOWING WHAT THE LAWS ARE, PARTICULARLY THAT SPEED LIMIT LAW AND THEN COURTESY,
MAKING SURE WE'RE RIDING WELL WITH, WITH ALL THE OTHER ROAD USERS AND PEDESTRIANS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT POINT OF SALE DISCLOSURE, I MENTIONED RESPECTING THE SPACE MESSAGING,
MAKING SURE. 
          HEY, LET'S BE NEIGHBORLY. LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND RIDE SAFELY TO WHERE WE'RE ALL HAVING
FUN AND ENJOYING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER. 
          PARTICULARLY SOME YOUTH AND SCHOOL OUTREACH WHERE WE WORK AND TALK WITH KIDS ABOUT THE
SAFETY COMPONENTS AND THE DANGERS OF E-BIKE USE, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S DONE UNSAFELY AND WHAT CAN RESULT IF YOU DO GET IN A CRASH. 
          AND THEN THAT TARGETED PARENTAL OUTREACH THAT CITY MANAGER MENTIONED EARLIER WHERE WE'RE
TRYING TO MAKE SURE PARENTS UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES IN E-BIKES. 
          WHY SAFETY INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT, SUCH AS THE INCREASED RISK OF INJURY AND INVOLVING AN
E-BIKE CRASHES, AND HOW THESE BIKES WEIGH 50, 60, 70 POUNDS COMPARED TO A STANDARD BICYCLE. 
          AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE LIABLE AS PARENTS,
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THESE CONSEQUENCES IF THEIR KIDS ARE OUT DOING THINGS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING. LAST IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ENHANCEMENTS. 
          WE'VE JUST TOUCHED BRIEFLY ON THIS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME SIGNAGE THAT'S COMING. 
          WE'VE ALREADY DEVELOPED AND ARE WORKING ON INSTALLING SOME BIKE AND E-BIKE SPEED LIMIT
SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THOSE HAVE BEEN ORDERED. WE'VE GOT SOME PROPOSED SITES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND THOSE
SHOULD BE INSTALLED ONCE THE SIGNS ARRIVE, WHICH SHOULD BE ANY TIME. WE ALSO HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING PARK SIGNAGE ABOUT NO MOTORIZED USE
WITHIN OUR CITY PARKS TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, HEY, YOU YOU CAN'T USE AN E-BIKE UNDER POWER WITHIN THE PARKS THERE. 
          THE SIGNS ARE OFTEN VERY DOT LIKE, VERY OFFICIAL LOOKING. 
          WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THOSE A LITTLE MORE. ORIENTED TOWARDS THE PARKS HERE. 
          LIKE MOST OF OUR OTHER SIGNS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON DEVELOPING THOSE NOW. 
          AND THEN JUST HAVING SOME GENERAL SAFETY MESSAGE SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          EXPLAIN SOME OF THESE PARTICULAR PARTICULAR SAFETY RULES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE. 
          THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION,
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. COMMISSIONER. 
          FIRST OF ALL, GREAT BRIEF. OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE E-BIKE BRIEFS THAT
I'VE SEEN. 
          AND I'VE SEEN THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND SOME OTHER ONES,
BUT GOOD JOB ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE ONE QUESTION I KNOW THE CHIEF HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE I WON'T SAY APPREHEND, BUT YOU STOP A MINOR,
RIGHT? YES. WHETHER YOU KNOW THEY'RE UNDER 14 OR ETCETERA. 
          WHERE DO YOU GO TO THE PARENT? WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP THERE? FOR OUR OFFICERS, WE REALLY EMPHASIZE TRY TO DO EDUCATION. 
          WE HAVE ALMOST EVERY TIME, NOT ONLY EDUCATED THE MINOR TALKED TO THEM,
BUT ALSO MADE CONTACT WITH THE PARENTS. 
          MAKE SURE THE PARENTS UNDERSTAND, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WAS GOING ON. 
          HERE'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING, HERE'S WHAT THE LAW SAYS AND WHY THEY CAN'T DO THAT. 
          AND WE, ESPECIALLY IN A COMMUNITY THIS SIZE,
A LOT OF OUR OFFICERS KNOW WHO THEY'VE TALKED TO BEFORE AND HOW MANY TIMES THAT WE'VE CONTACTED THEM, WHO YOU ARE. AND YOU KNOW, WE,
WE TRY TO GIVE WARNINGS, YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES, 
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BUT EVENTUALLY THERE ARE SOME JUVENILES THAT WE HAVE ISSUED CITATIONS TO BECAUSE THEY CAN
REPEATEDLY VIOLATE THE RULES. 
          IF THEY DO SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AGAINST THE RULES. 
          DO DO YOU GUYS CALL THE PARENTS OR DO YOU YOU KNOW,
I UNDERSTAND A VERBAL WARNING AND WRITTEN. 
          BUT AT WHAT AT WHAT LEVEL DO YOU, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE PARENTS A CALL. 
          ARE WE ALWAYS, ALWAYS CALL THE PARENTS? I DON'T WANT TO SAY EVERY TIME. 
          THERE ARE SOME TIMES WHERE WE MIGHT JUST HAVE A QUICK INFORMAL TALK WITH THE WITH THE
JUVENILE. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE MAKE CONTACT WITH THE PARENT. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONTACT THE PARENTS IN THAT WHATEVER ELSE,
WE THINK THEIR INSURANCE COULD BE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. WE DON'T RELY ON THE THE JUVENILE TO TELL THEIR PARENT THEY GOT IN
TROUBLE. 
          THANKS AGAIN. SO I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO GO ON FOR
A WHILE BECAUSE E-BIKES ARE HERE TO STAY. 
          MUCH OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED TODAY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ON THIS DAIS IS GOING TO DISAGREE
WITH THE EDUCATION COMPONENT AND SO ON. 
          AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ISSUE WARNINGS. YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO WRITE A CITATION. 
          I'M BETTING THAT WHAT I'M SEEING THAT I'M ABOUT TO,
TO DISCUSS, I'M BETTING IT'S REALLY JUST A HANDFUL OF DISRESPECTFUL YOUNGSTERS. 
          SO I KNOW WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IF I WAS PULLED OVER BY A POLICE OFFICER. 
          I'M SHAKING IN MY BOOTS. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THEM TALKING TO MY PARENTS. 
          I'M IN TROUBLE. RIGHT. BUT WE HAVE A SMALL CONTINGENT OF YOUTH IN THIS CITY THAT DO NOT
RESPECT YOU OR ADULTS, AND THEY'RE REPEAT OFFENDERS, I'M BETTING. BUT YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          BUT WHEN THEY RIDE 2, 3, 4 ABREAST IN BOTH LANES ON OCEAN BOULEVARD WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC
COMING, THAT THEY ONLY SWERVE OUT OF THE WAY WHEN THEY FINALLY GET TO THEM AND THEY'RE POPPING
WHEELIES. 
          THIS IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. AND IT I THINK IT'S A SMALL GROUP. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S A HUNDRED CHILDREN IN ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          AND SO THERE'S WHERE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN WRANGLE THAT IN AND GET
CONTROL OVER IT. 
          SO MAYBE I'LL JUST STOP THERE AND SAY, AND BY THE WAY,
I'M ASKING CITIZENS TO TAKE VIDEOS. 
          I HAVE ONE THAT I SHARED WITH THE CITY MANAGER TODAY AND THEY GIVE THEM THE BIRD. 
          THEY'RE FOUL MOUTHED. IT'S JUST YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          OH, HOW DO HOW DO WE GET OUR ARMS AROUND THAT. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A CHALLENGE. YOU'VE GOT TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND TRY TO INFLUENCE THEM
TO OBEY THE LAW. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT SEGMENT THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO,
THEY'RE THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          NO MATTER WHAT THE CONSEQUENCE IS. NOW THERE COULD BE,
YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I WILL SAY, EVEN THROUGH OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS WITH ADULTS AND WITH JUVENILES, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THINK IT'S,
IT'S KIND OF TRIVIAL. 
          WHY, WHY ARE WE EVEN MESSING WITH THIS? AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE'VE TALKED TO PARENTS,
THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, IS THIS REALLY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING? DON'T YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER TO DO? CLEARLY THIS IS A MAJOR COMMUNITY ISSUE. 
          IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE. THERE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN NOT NECESSARILY ATLANTIC BEACH,
BUT IN THE NORTH FLORIDA REGION SEVERAL FATALITY CRASHES INVOLVING E-BIKES. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A CONCERN. AND SO WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO EDUCATE FOLKS ON WHAT THE LAW
IS, WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT, WHY THEY SHOULD OBEY THE LAW AND CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND WE RAMP THOSE CONSEQUENCES UP, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE REPEATEDLY MAKING. 
          WE'RE MAKING CONTACT WITH SOMEONE REPEATEDLY. THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING OR. PARTICULARLY IF
IT'S AN EGREGIOUS VIOLATION. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE DOING THE RIDING AN ONCOMING TRAFFIC AND PLAYING CHICKEN WITH A CAR,
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST GIVE THEM A WARNING AND WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE THEM CITATIONS AND,
AND TAKE MORE STRINGENT ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. 
          SURE. AND I'LL TAKE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS,
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE REVISITING THIS SOMETIME SOON AS A BODY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ACTUAL ADDITIONAL LEGISLATION. SO WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE 14 AT AGE 14 OR 16,
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THIS COMMISSION COULD DO IS AS SOON AS WE OPEN THIS UP FOR FURTHER LEGISLATION IS GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT ILLEGAL UNDER 14
TO OPERATE AN E-BIKE AND PUT THE CHILDREN AND THE YOUTH OF THIS CITY ON NOTICE. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO 16 IF WE DON'T CAPTURE THE
PEOPLE UNDER IT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE 14 AND 15 YEAR OLDS DON'T COMPLY,
THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO 16. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE TO START OFF SO HEAVY HANDED TO JUST OUTLAW IT. 
          BUT WE GOT TO GET THEIR ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE ARE DEATHS OCCURRING NOT YET IN THIS
COMMUNITY. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE THE MAYOR OF ATLANTIC BEACH WHEN ONE HAPPENS. 
          I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. PLUS, IT'S REALLY UNNERVING TO THE ADULTS WHO SEE THIS
REGULARLY. 
          AND I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH ONE FINAL ONE. AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS TOO. BUT I WANT
EVERYBODY TO HEAR THIS IS ON APPROACH INTO BEACHES TOWN CENTER ON ATLANTIC BOULEVARD. 
          ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS I'VE HAD EBIKES RACING AROUND ME WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC. 
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THEY'RE. THEY'RE PLAYING CHICKEN IN A HIGHLY TRAFFICKED AREA WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT. 
          IT IS SO RIDICULOUSLY BRAZEN THAT I'M LIKE, WELL,
HOW DO THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH THAT? AND SO MY CHALLENGE, MY CHARGE, IF YOU WILL,
FOR YOU TO TALK TO YOUR CHIEF WHO'S SITTING RIGHT BEHIND YOU IS. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESENCE BY POLICE,
AND I DON'T MEAN. 
          VISIBLE PRESENCE. YOU. I THINK YOU NEED TO JUST CATCH THEM RED HANDED WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW
YOU'RE THERE, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THEY'LL PAY ATTENTION IF THEY SEE THE POLICE CAR. 
          BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE A REAL CRACKDOWN ON THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY IN BEACHES,
TOWN CENTER AND ON MAJOR ARTERIES LIKE OCEAN BOULEVARD. SO. COMMISSIONERS. ANY. YES. COMMISSIONER. 
          RING. WELL FIRST OF ALL, THAT WAS A WONDERFUL BRIEF. 
          THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE IT'S VERY THOROUGH,
VERY DETAILED. 
          AND YOU LAID OUT ALL OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP ACROSS THE BEACHES,
WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN SOME BECAUSE YOU REACHED OUT TO FDOT AND TPO. 
          I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT CITATION. SO IF YOU'RE GIVING IT TO THEM WHEN THEY'RE 14
OR UNDER, IT'S NOT GOING ON THEIR PARENTS POINTS OR IT'S BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST A PIECE OF PAPER THAT
THEY RIP UP. 
          I KNOW EVERYONE KNOWS HERE, IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A DRIVER AND YOU DON'T PAY THAT TICKET,
YOU LOSE YOUR PRIVILEGE TO DRIVE. 
          AND SO I'M, I, I WANT TO KNOW AS WE'RE LOOKING AT 14 OR 16,
YOU KNOW, JUST HOW MANY OF THOSE PIECES OF PAPER JUST GET THROWN AWAY IF IT'S A 16 YEAR OLD, DOES IT GO ON THEIR, THEIR RECORD? YOU KNOW,
IT DOESN'T AFFECT AN ACTUAL DRIVER'S LICENSE BECAUSE THESE ARE MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS. IT WOULD NOT AFFECT EVEN AS AN ADULT ANY KIND OF DRIVING RECORD. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY REALLY STATE STATUTE VIOLATIONS. 
          SO IF WE ISSUED THEM A TRAFFIC TICKET FOR A STATUTE VIOLATION,
LIKE A NORMAL RUNNING A STOP SIGN THAT WOULD GO ON A POTENTIALLY A, A, A UNIFORM TRAFFIC CITATION AS OPPOSED TO A MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE VIOLATION. 
          THOSE ARE SOMETHING THAT'S STRICTLY WITHIN ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          THERE'S OPTIONS THAT WE'VE EXPLORED THAT WITH SOME OF OUR PARKING CITATIONS AND ANIMAL
CONTROL CITATIONS FOR OTHER WAYS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE THROUGH EITHER SOME SORT OF COLLECTIONS PROCESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          BUT IT DOES NOT AFFECT LIKE A DRIVING RECORD OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I'M GOING TO BE THE 3RD ONE TO SAY I TIP MY HAT TO YOU ON THAT
PRESENTATION. 
          THAT WAS COMPREHENSIVE. THAT WAS WELL DONE AND I APPRECIATE IT. 
          CAN WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO REVISIT AND TALK ABOUT ACTUALLY
LEGISLATING SOME OF THESE THINGS? CERTAINLY, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE'LL SKIP A STEP AND,
AND BRING PROPOSED LEGISLATION TO YOU. 
          I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT. AND ONE THING TO ADDRESS IN THAT IS NOT JUST EMPOWERING BECAUSE
IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU TO, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUT IS PUTTING IN A MECHANISM FOR COLLECTIONS BECAUSE I'M BETTING IF
DID YOU SAY THERE WERE 80 CITATIONS LAST YEAR. 
          OH, 300. WE HAD 388 STOPS. I WANT TO SAY 44. IT'S OFF OF MEMORY CITATIONS. 
          OKAY. SOME OF THOSE WERE STATE STATUTE. WE ISSUED A UNIFORM TRAFFIC CITATION AND OTHERS
WERE JUST MUNICIPAL. 
          WELL, THE THE OBVIOUS OPPORTUNITY HERE IS TO SEE WHAT PULL THROUGH WE HAVE. 
          ARE THEY PAYING THEM? ARE THEY SAYING, YOU KNOW,
FORGET IT. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          WELL DONE. LIEUTENANT. OKAY. EVERYBODY GOOD? YEAH. 
          THANKS, LIEUTENANT. THANKS, CHIEF. THANKS, CHIEF. I'M SORRY,
I. 
          I PROBABLY DIDN'T SAY WE DON'T APPLAUD IN THE CHAMBER. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASM, BUT HOLD THE APPLAUSE,
BECAUSE WE ALSO DON'T BOO IN THE CHAMBER, SO WE DON'T APPLAUD OR BOO. GOOD. THANKS, MAYOR AND COMMISSION. 
          THANKS FOR INDULGING US ON THE LENGTH OF THAT PRESENTATION. 
          THAT MAY BE THE LONGEST ONE THAT YOU GET FROM US. 
          BECAUSE THE TOPIC COMES UP EVERY MEETING BECAUSE IT'S A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT
THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH IT AND IT'S GOOD. I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT TENANT IN CHIEF. 
          FOR THEIR EFFORTS TONIGHT AND OTHERWISE CONTINUING WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT WHICH BY
THE WAY, ARE IS PUBLISHED ON THE WEB AND IS ALSO AVAILABLE AT THE DOOR FOR THESE MEETINGS. 
          I'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR BEACHES TOWN CENTER PARKING PROGRAM UPDATE,
ACKNOWLEDGING IT'S PROBABLY CERTAINLY NOT AS MEATY AS WHAT SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE WISH IT WERE. HOWEVER, THERE'S Q&A AFTERWARDS FOR ALL OF THIS THAT COMMISSION HAS
WITH ME AND, AND CERTAINLY ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE. SO AT ITS MARCH 2ND MEETING,
THE NEPTUNE BEACH CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED THE PROSPECT OF INCREASING PARKING RATES DURING 
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PEAK HOURS PER HOUR, PAID PARKING IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH NEPTUNE BEACH. 
          ATLANTIC BEACH MUST BE CONSULTED BEFORE ANY CHANGES ARE IMPLEMENTED. 
          CITY MANAGER PIKE AND I ARE NEGOTIATING A NEW AGREEMENT WHILE DISCUSSING THE IMPLICATIONS
OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES. 
          THIS IS A FLUID DELIBERATION AND AS I'VE DONE BETWEEN MEETINGS AND DURING MEETINGS,
I'LL KEEP YOU POSTED. 
          WE COULD BE HEADED TOWARD YOU ALL HAVING TO MAKE A DECISION ON WHETHER TO KEEP UP WITH A
RATE INCREASE AT NEPTUNE BEACH RUNS WITH. 
          OKAY, YES, JUST A AND I'M SURE YOU GUYS HAVE RESEARCHED THIS. WELL,
YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP AND ALSO NOT TONIGHT, BUT A COST THAT IT WOULD COST US TO GET OUT OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, FOR US TO HAVE OUR INDEPENDENT PARKING,
RIGHT. 
          WE ARE EVALUATING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO BE INFORMED A LOT BY THE VERY GOOD DATA THAT THE
CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH IS GETTING WITH THIS NEW VENDOR. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST 2 PLUS MONTHS INTO THAT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP AND WE ARE NOW ABOUT
TO START DOING BUSINESS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WITH THE SAME VENDOR. SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DATA TO ACCUMULATE TO
LEARN WHAT EXACTLY IT COSTS. 
          THE CITY OF NEPTUNE NEEDS TO RUN THIS PROGRAM OR WHAT IT MIGHT COST FOR US TO,
TO TO RUN THE PROGRAM ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET. 
          YEAH. YES. COMMISSIONER. RING. IF THEY INCREASE,
DO WE HAVE TO INCREASE? NO. YES. COMMISSIONER. GRANT. THANK YOU. SO,
KEVIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AND STAFF TO REMIND FOLKS IN NEPTUNE BEACH THAT THIS PARKING, THE PAID PARKING PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED. 
          IF I'M, IF I'M CORRECT IN CURBING PARKING ON THOSE AREAS FOR PEOPLE GOING TO THE BEACH
THAT WAS THE INITIAL INTENT. 
          YES. IT WASN'T, IT WAS NEVER ESTABLISHED TO GENERATE REVENUE. 
          OKAY. AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM PARKING,
YOU NEED DATA, YOU NEED SOME SORT OF FEE STUDY TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW,
WHAT, WHAT OCCUPANCY LEVEL ARE THOSE SPOTS AT? WHAT TIMES ARE THEY BUSY? WHAT TIMES ARE THEY NOT? INSTEAD OF JUST RANDOMLY PULLING, YOU KNOW, COST FIGURES HOURLY NUMBERS OUT OF THIN AIR,
WHICH MAYBE THEY HAVE, MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T, BUT NONE OF THAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH US. 
          IF THEY INDEED DID SOME SORT OF COST STUDY. BUT REALLY YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNTIL YOU HAVE
PRICING THAT'S BEEN IN, IN IN PLACE FOR A FULL YEAR TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE SEASONALITY OF THAT,
OF THAT PARKING, THOSE PARKING HABITS AND HOW THEY IMPACT THE MERCHANTS DOWN THERE. 
          AND SO MOST OF THE FOLKS I'VE BEEN TALKING TO ON THIS SUBJECT HAVE SAID,
WE NEED TO LEAVE IT ALONE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR WHERE IT IS NOW, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND REALLY GO LOOK. 
          GET INFORMATION FROM THE MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION. 
          DIFFERENT DATA FROM THEM. THE BEACHES, TOWN CENTER AGENCY,
I THINK THEY'RE IN LOCKSTEP TO, TO, YOU KNOW, JUST HOLD THIS DOWN FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          SO THAT THAT'S SEEMS LIKE THESE THINGS HAVE,
HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT NEPTUNE BEACH FOLKS ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT AND IT'S, AND IT'S TOO BAD, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BE IN MY OPINION. 
          SO LET ME JUST MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THEY'RE
NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          I THINK THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THEY'LL MAKE IS THAT UP UNTIL
THIS MOST RECENT CHANGE TO THE 250 PER. 
          IS IT 250 PER HOUR? YEAH. YEAH. UP UNTIL THAT CHANGE,
THERE HADN'T BEEN A CHANGE SINCE INCEPTION OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS 7 OR 8 YEARS AGO. SO INTUITIVELY, THERE MIGHT REASONABLY BE A CHANGE. 
          BUT IS IT REASONABLE TO GO TO $5 AN HOUR, $4 AN HOUR? I'M NOT THE EXPERT THERE. WHAT I DO KNOW IS I AGREE WITH YOU,
COMMISSIONER GRANT THAT WE NEED MORE DATA AND TIME WILL AFFORD THAT IN THE ACTUAL LOCATION WHERE WE'RE OPERATING. SO WE DID GET THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AND WE WERE PRESENTED THAT
STUDY THAT LOOKED AT DATA FROM OTHER CITIES. 
          AND THAT'S INFORMATIVE. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, OVER TIME,
WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE DATA IN OUR TWO CITIES, NEPTUNE AND ATLANTIC BEACH. SO HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. 
          I WHAT I RIGHT NOW WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON PAID PARKING WITH THE CITY OF NEPTUNE
BEACH THAT EXPIRED A YEAR AGO, GIVE OR TAKE. THEY ARE DISCUSSING AND WILL AND MR. HOGENCAMP YOU MIGHT UPDATE ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE THE DISCUSSION WAS,
BUT I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN DISCUSSING A NEW CONTRACT WITH THE ATLANTIC BEACH. 
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THAT WOULD CHANGE THE SPLIT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS A POST UP EXPENSE SPLIT OR JUST A
PRE, BECAUSE THE OLD AGREEMENT WAS A GROSS, A SPLIT ON THE GROSS AND IT WAS 70% OF THE PAID
PARKING IN ATLANTIC BEACH WOULD GO TO ATLANTIC BEACH, THEREFORE ALLOWING FOR THE 30% TO COVER THEIR COSTS. 
          AND SO I BELIEVE THEIR DISCUSSION IS SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT COVERING THEIR COSTS,
SO THEY NEED A BIGGER SPLIT FOR THEM. 
          HERE'S WHAT I'M PROPOSING, AND I WANT THIS COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT IT FOR THE NEXT
MEETING IS I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO GIVE US A 1 YEAR EXTENSION ON THE OLD AGREEMENT, WHICH IS 70% OF THE GROSS ON THE PARKING SPACES IN ATLANTIC BEACH,
TO ALLOW US TIME TO ANALYZE DATA AS WELL AS THEM. AND I'M GOING TO BE VERY BOLD ON SAYING THAT ONE OF THE
OPTIONS, AND I THINK YOU'RE ALLUDING TO THAT. COMMISSIONER BOLE IS THAT WE MAY RUN OUR OWN PROGRAM. 
          WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. AND IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME,
WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER THAT IS SOMETHING REASONABLE OR FEASIBLE, BECAUSE RUNNING OUR OWN PROGRAM IS NOT TO SUGGEST THAT I WANT TO COMPETE WITH THEM AND
HAVE LOWER COST PARKING ON THE NET. 
          ATLANTIC BEACH SIDE OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD. I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC,
AND I'M HOPING THAT WE NEVER DO THAT. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME PARKING FEES ON BOTH SIDES. 
          BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE CAN'T IF IF IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE BETTER SERVED RUNNING OUR
OWN PARKING PROGRAM, BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE GOT 18TH AND 19TH AND WE STREET AND WE COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL PAID
PARKING IN THE FUTURE. 
          THAT MAY BE WHERE WE NEED TO GO, BUT I'D LIKE A ONE YEAR MORATORIUM ON WRITING A NEW
SCRIPT, IF YOU WILL, ON AN AGREEMENT, AND SIMPLY EXTEND THE OLD AGREEMENT FOR 1 YEAR AT 70% SPLIT. 
          COMMISSIONER BOLE. JUST JUST TO ADD THAT I SPOKE TO KEVIN THIS WEEK. 
          IT FOUND DID SOME DIGGING AND FOUND SOME INTERESTING THINGS THAT PARKING WHEN YOU PAY FOR
PARKING, IT'S ACTUALLY A TAX WRITE YOU GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH YOUR. 
          IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING. AND THE MONEY USED BY THAT. 
          KEVIN, YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE MONEY USED BY THAT,
YOU KNOW, THE GROSS GOES BACK IN TO GUESS WHERE BEACHES TOWN CENTER IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND LIKE WE CAN'T SPEND IT ON BUILDING PLAZA,
YOU KNOW, OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO. 
          I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT THAT AND I'LL PUT COMMISSIONER KELLY IN AND I ON REPORT,
I KNOW WE WERE WE WERE HERE. 
          OKAY. AND WHAT WE FAILED TO DO AS A COMMISSION AND PROBABLY MAYOR IS THAT HOLD THEM
ACCOUNTABLE AND HAVE A 6 MONTH OR YEARLY UPDATE AND SEE WHERE WE WERE AT BECAUSE WE BLINDLY, I GUESS FOR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF YEARS AND I'LL DEFER TO
COMMISSIONER. 
          KELLY. WE THOUGHT, HEY, IT'S ALL GOOD, RIGHT? WE WEREN'T THERE REALLY TO MAKE MONEY. BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH,
AND KEVIN, PLEASE CORRECT ME, THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO WHERE IT'S COLLECTED,
AM I RIGHT? I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS THIS. AND WE'LL WANT TO PUT CITY ATTORNEY GABRIEL ON THE TASK OF
RESEARCHING THIS. 
          AND YES WHAT I FOUND IN MY RESEARCH WITH I DON'T THINK WE SHARED IT WITH WITH JASON. 
          IS THAT INDEED THE MONEY COLLECTED SHOULD BENEFIT THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE MONEY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHAT HOW I THINK THE LAW READS. 
          I READ IT VERY CLOSELY IN THE LAST YEAR, AND SO WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON ON THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER. BOLE. OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          IT'S IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A LONG CONVERSATION YET TO COME,
BUT I, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON TWO THINGS AS WE END THIS. 
          THERE WERE 2 MAJOR SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS BY THE SELECTION OF A NEW VENDOR BY THE CITY
OF NEPTUNE BEACH. 
          ONE WAS THE DATA COMPONENT. THEY DID GIVE US A REPORT RECENTLY. 
          IT WASN'T. I MEAN, IT WAS ROBUST COMPARED TO NOTHING IN THE PAST,
BUT IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT OUT MORE. 
          AND THEY KNOW THAT. BUT THAT'S A GREAT START. 
          AND THE OTHER COMPONENT WAS ADDITION OF COLLECTION CAPABILITIES BECAUSE IN GETTING PEOPLE
TO PAY TICKETS, CITATIONS, ANY OF THESE THINGS WHERE THERE'S NO PENALTY BECAUSE THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT,
IT LEADS TO DISASTER. 
          AND I THINK WE ARE WELL AWARE THAT WASN'T IT,
OVER 300,000 IN OUTSTANDING CITATIONS. 
          PARDON? 8. OKAY, 800,000. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT'S A HALF $1 MILLION? SO ANYWAYS GOOD CONVERSATION ON THAT. AND BACK TO YOU,
KEVIN. 
          THANK YOU. MY NEXT ITEM IN MY REPORT ALSO ISN'T VERY MEATY,
BUT PERHAPS TO THE CHAGRIN OF SOME FOLKS IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS TO DO WITH THE FIRE LINE EXTENSION. ILA. THE AGREEMENT IS NOW SCHEDULED TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU AT YOUR MARCH
23RD MEETING. 
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AND INDEED, THE THE DEVELOPER IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT JUST TO,
JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          SO THIS, THIS AGREEMENT IS ABOUT POTABLE WATER SERVICE FOR FIRE PROTECTION FOR THE NEPTUNE
BEACH REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, AND WE'LL GET A DRAFT AGREEMENT ON YOUR AGENDA WHEN IT'S READY. 
          AND INDEED, WE'LL, WE'LL, WHEN OUR DRAFT AGENDA AS IS DONE,
WE'LL, WE'LL PUBLISH IT AS WELL SO THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS IT. 
          SO THANK YOU. AND I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT ON THAT. 
          AND THIS ISN'T UP FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE CITIZENS THAT BROUGHT THIS,
BUT WE, WE TABLED IT THE, THE LAST TIME BECAUSE WE NEVER GOT A FORMAL REQUEST FROM THE,
THE MAYOR OF NEPTUNE BEACH TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THAT. 
          WELL, WE, I THINK WE GOT A KIND OF A QUASI FORMAL REQUEST AT THE END,
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE. 
          WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR THIS. AND A COUPLE OF SALIENT POINTS IS WE DO ALREADY SELL WATER TO
BOTH RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. SO LET'S NOT FORGET THAT. 
          SO IF THE INTENT BY RESIDENTS IS TO BUY THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST IT IS TO STOP THE
DEVELOPMENT, THEN I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A MEANS TO THE END. BUT BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROVIDING FIRE
SUPPRESSION. 
          WE ARE NOT PROVIDING ACTUAL WATER UNLESS IN FACT THERE'S A FIRE. 
          AND SO HERE'S THE QUESTION, AND I BROUGHT IT UP AT THE LAST MEETING IS DO WE,
IF THIS AGREEMENT COMES BACK TO THIS BODY FOR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 23RD AND ALL IT HAS IN IT IS THE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE WOULD PAY FOR THE COSTS OF INSTALLING THIS AND THE TAP FEES FOR
HOOKING UP. 
          THEN THAT'S A ONE TIME FEE. AND WHAT I BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT DOESN'T GIVE US
ANYTHING INTO THE FUTURE. 
          NOW, WHY DO WE NEED ANY FEE AFTER THE INITIAL HOOK UP? BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY PROVIDING WATER AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT ATTORNEY THAT'S
MASSAGED THIS AGREEMENT TO WHERE THERE'S NO RISK, BUT THAT'S WHERE I BROUGHT UP THE POINT THAT THERE'S ALWAYS SOME RISK,
SOMETHING CAN GO WRONG. 
          BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK HERE'S WHERE I REALLY WANT TO LAND ON THIS IS WHAT'S THE
INCENTIVE TO STOP USING OUR WATER AS THEIR FIRE SUPPRESSION IN THE FUTURE, I.E. THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH,
SOLVING THEIR WATER ISSUES AND PROVIDING THAT THAT PRESSURE FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION SO THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A ONGOING AGREEMENT. WHAT INCENTIVE EXISTS? AND THE ONLY INCENTIVE I CAN THINK OF IS A MONETARY INCENTIVE,
WHEREBY WE ARE CHARGING X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS PER YEAR TO THE RECIPIENT OF, OF THAT FIRE SUPPRESSION SERVICE. AND THEIR INCENTIVE IS TO,
TO HOOK UP TO NEPTUNE BEACH ONCE THEY SOLVE THEIR OWN INTERNAL YOU KNOW, PRESSURE PROBLEMS AND STOP USING ATLANTIC BEACH SUPPRESSION,
THEREFORE SAVING WHATEVER THAT FEE IS. 
          I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER,
BUT I THINK THERE'S A NUMBER. 
          COMMISSIONER. BOLE. I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
NEPTUNE BEACH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT PUTS ANOTHER I WOULD SAY,
PROBABILITY INTO THE EQUATION. 
          OKAY. I'M PROBABLY NOT THE SMART GUY TO DO THAT,
BUT I DO KNOW IF YOU LOOK OVER, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO 30, 40 YEARS BACK AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE,
YOU LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AND JUST IF YOU JUST SOLELY LOOK ON DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THIS,
I THINK WE TAKE A RISK ON NEPTUNE BEACH'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, CALCULATED ON OUR END. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IMPACTS FIRE SUPPRESSION. 
          THIS IS WATER THAT IS SENT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD,
AND THEN THEY TAP INTO IT AND IT ONLY COMES ON IN THE EVENT OF NEED. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST QUESTION,
DOES THAT GO BOTH WAYS? YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY, BUT OKAY, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT US. 
          I'M WORRIED ABOUT COMMISSIONERS 10 YEARS FROM NOW,
THE MAYOR 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WHATEVER. 
          AND IF THEY WANT TO VOID THE AGREEMENT, I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          OKAY. BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE. AND I'M SURE OUR ATTORNEYS GONE THROUGH THIS A SAFETY
CLAUSE FOR US BECAUSE WE DO INCUR SOME INHERENT RISK. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP AT THE RISK OF OF DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT
BE CORRECT. 
          YOU COULD ALWAYS PUT A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THE AGREEMENT IS IN AVAILABLE IT. 
          YOU KNOW, NOT NOT TO BE SO RIDICULOUS THAT THEY CAN'T MEET IT,
BUT IF YOU PUT A 5 YEAR LIMIT ON IT OR SOMETHING, IT GIVES NEPTUNE BEACH 5 YEARS TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AS A BODY BEFORE WE RATIFY ANY AGREEMENT. 
          [01:15:05]
AND I DO KNOW WE'LL BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ON THE 23RD. 
          SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          IS HE HERE TO SAY ANYTHING? MR. HARRIS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON ANY OF THIS OR. YEAH. 
          COME ON UP, STEVE. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. MAYOR STEVE DEBONO,
1 INDEPENDENT DRIVE, SUITE 1200. 
          I REPRESENT THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE THE FORMER KMART. 
          AND JUST A COUPLE OF JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS. 
          THE 1ST 1 IS THAT IF FIRE SUPPRESSION SERVICES ARE NOT PROVIDED IN THE WAY THAT'S
DESCRIBED IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR THE DRAFT AGREEMENT THEN THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY PROBABLY WILL EITHER FIGURE OUT HOW
TO TIE INTO THE EXISTING TANK THAT'S IN NEPTUNE BEACH ALREADY. OR THEY'LL SEEK TO PERMIT THEIR OWN. 
          SO THE NOTION THAT STOPPING THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WILL PREVENT DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE
IS JUST SIMPLY NOT TRUE. SO THERE WILL BE A WAY THAT THE PROPERTY WILL EVENTUALLY FIRE SUPPRESSION WILL NOT
BE THE REASON THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NOT DEVELOPED. THE SECOND THING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE HAD,
AND I, I WATCHED YOUR COMMISSION MEETING 2 WEEKS AGO AND I DECIDED TO COME TONIGHT SINCE IT WAS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS WILLING TO PAY WHATEVER THE
RATIONAL TAP FEE IS OR WHATEVER THE, THE, THE, THE AMOUNT IS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER THE CODE. 
          AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT I WAS HERE,
MAYBE EIGHT MONTHS AGO, WHICH IS AS LONG AS THERE'S A BASIS FOR THE FEE THE DEVELOPER, WHOEVER THAT MIGHT BE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD,
IS WILLING TO PAY IT. 
          BUT THE NUMBER CAN'T BE JUST ONE THAT IS MADE UP OUT OF WHOLE CLOTH OR BASED ON SOMETHING
THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED EITHER IN THE CODE OR THE FLORIDA STATUTES THAT WOULD BE DEEMED AN ILLEGAL EXACTION. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING, MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO PAY,
WILLING TO PAY WHATEVER THE REASONABLE AMOUNT IS. 
          THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED BY THE LAW. AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AT A LATER TIME,
BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO AVOID PAYING ANYTHING. 
          THE 3RD THING I WANTED TO SAY IS FOR FUTURE USE AND,
AND THE INCENTIVE TO GET OFF. 
          THAT, THAT THEN BECOMES A CHALLENGE BECAUSE REMEMBER,
THIS IS FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION SERVICE. 
          SO THIS IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS EARLIER ASKED,
WELL, IF I'M OKAY WITH THIS, IF THIS IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. WELL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS FOR. 
          THIS IS YOU SAID AND HAS BEEN REPEATED MANY TIMES IN THIS CHAMBER. 
          THIS IS NOT FOR POTABLE WATER. THIS IS FOR WATER THAT WOULD BE ON STANDBY AND AVAILABLE
FOR FIRE SUPPRESSION IF THE WORST HAPPENS AND THERE HAPPENS TO BE A FIRE. 
          SO IT IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. THIS ISN'T WATER. 
          THAT'S FOR CONVENIENCE. THIS ISN'T WATER THAT ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THIS IS SIMPLY A WAY OF, OF SOLVING AN ISSUE THAT IS A DISCRETE ISSUE FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD
OF TIME. 
          LAST POINT I'LL MAKE IS, IS THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM YOUR TEAM HAS BEEN EXTREMELY
RESPONSIVE. 
          NEPTUNE BEACH. THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED DRAFTS ALONG THE WAY AND THEY HAVE HAD COMMENTS
ALONG THE WAY AS WELL. 
          SO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THE IMPRESSION I KNOW IT WAS NOT YOUR INTENT,
AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE MY INTENT TO LEAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT NEPTUNE BEACH IS JUST KIND OF STANDING BY WAITING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT ATLANTIC BEACH DOES. 
          THEY'VE BEEN ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN LAWYER. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR OWN COMMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CALL LATER THIS WEEK IF ANYONE WOULD
LIKE A COPY OF THE AGREEMENT THE WAY IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND IF THEY WOULD LIKE ANY VERSION FROM THE BEGINNING TILL TODAY FEEL FREE TO CALL ME OR
TEXT ME OR EMAIL ME AND I'LL JUST SAY IT QUICKLY ON THE RECORD. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WATCH ON TV,
BUT AGAIN, MY NAME IS STEVE DEBONO. 
          MY CELL PHONE NUMBER IS 90498244259049824425. 
          MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS VERY EASY, IT'S SD SO IT'S MY INITIALS SD@DRIVERMCAFEE.COM. 
          DRIVER, JUST LIKE IT SOUNDS. MCAFEE LIKE THE SOFTWARE COMPANY. 
          SO. SD AT D R I V E R M C A F E E.COM. AND IF YOU'RE SHY AND YOU DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE
DOING THAT, HAVE A FRIEND REACH OUT. I'LL EMAIL YOU ANY,
DRAFT, ANY DOCUMENT, WHATEVER VERSION YOU WANT. 
          MY EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE IS ALL PUBLIC RECORD WITH BOTH CITIES. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO
COMMENT THIS EVENING. 
          THANK THANK YOU, MR. DEBONO. YES. COMMISSIONER. 
          [01:20:02]
SO WHAT YOU'RE BORROWING FOR US IS, IS VIA SUPPRESSION. 
          WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR POTABLE WATER? NEPTUNE BEACH HAS SUFFICIENT POTABLE WATER AND SEWER
CAPACITY AVAILABLE TO SERVE THE PROPERTY. 
          SO WHAT THEY UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE AND YOU MAY REMEMBER SEVERAL YEARS AGO THE PRIOR
OWNER REACHED THIS POINT AND THERE WAS AN IDEA OF MAYBE DOING A LOOP INSIDE THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO BOOST WATER PRESSURE. THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TRYING TO FIGURE THAT
OUT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IDEA, THERE IS NO ENGINEERING WAY TO SOLVE THE WATER PRESSURE ISSUE
FOR THIS PROPERTY EXCEPT MAYBE 3 WAYS. 
          ONE IS THE WAY THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, WHICH IS BRINGING WATER ACROSS THE STREET UNDER
ATLANTIC BOULEVARD. 
          THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE NEPTUNE BEACH INVESTING IN A FIX TO THEIR WATER SYSTEM THAT WOULD
BRING EITHER AN ADDITIONAL LINE OR A NEW LINE OR SOME OTHER CONFIGURATION THAT IS THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE,
BUT EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. 
          THERE ARE NO PLANS TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THE THIRD WAY WOULD BE TO CONNECT TO THE
EXISTING TANK OR TO, I GUESS, BUILD A NEW TANK. SURE. YEAH. I KNOW THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. 
          NO, IT'S A GOOD ANSWER. OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. DEBONO,
THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. AND COUNCIL,
CAN YOU LOOK INTO THIS BECAUSE I HEAR MR. DEBONELE, ON THE ISSUE OF UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES,
WE MAY NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHARGE A FEE THAT IS NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ACTUAL PROVISION OF THE WATER OR SOME OTHER SERVICE. HOWEVER,
THERE IS A SERVICE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          WE STILL HAVE STAFF THAT MUST STAY INVOLVED OVER THE YEARS. 
          INSPECTIONS. IF SOMETHING DID BREAK ON EITHER SIDE,
THAT WAS, THAT WAS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          SO WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS, DO WE HAVE THE LEGAL ABILITY TO CHARGE ANY FEES BEYOND A
NORMAL STATUTORY, NORMAL CODIFIED TAP FEE? YEAH. AND I THINK THE,
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, BUT, AND I THINK THE DEVELOPERS COUNCIL IS ACTUALLY AGREEING. 
          THE KEY THOUGH, IS TO HAVE A NEXUS, A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE AND
WHAT THE SERVICE, THE ADMIN COSTS AND THAT SORT OF THING WILL BE. 
          CERTAINLY THE FEE SHOULD AND CAN BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE THE CITY HALL FOR WHAT IT'S
PROVIDING, EVEN IF IT'S JUST THIS ONGOING WAIT PERIOD, LET'S SAY. 
          BUT YEAH, THE QUICK ANSWER IS WE CAN, WE JUST NEED TO PUT OUR,
YOU KNOW, HEADS TO WHAT THAT RATIONAL COST WOULD BE THAT IS RELATED TO THE ACTUAL SERVICE PROVIDER, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT, WE ARE MOVING QUICKLY TO FURTHER ENHANCE THE JACK RUSSELL PARK PLAYGROUND FOLLOWING
THE REMOVAL OF THE VINTAGE AND DARE I SAY ICONIC AND VERY, VERY POPULAR TIRE TRACK. WHILE UPDATES WERE NECESSARY TO MEET MODERN
SAFETY AND HEALTH STANDARDS, WE RECOGNIZE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS WE HEARD FROM FROM AT LEAST AT LEAST AT LEAST 8
ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS DIRECTLY BY EMAIL. 
          WE NEED MORE CHALLENGING EQUIPMENT. WE'VE BEEN CONVINCED FOR ELEMENTARY AGE KIDS AND AND
TO BRIDGE THIS GAP. 
          WE'RE SOON GOING TO PUBLISH DESIGN OPTIONS TO RESTORE THE AGILITY AND THE HOPPING PLAY
VALUE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S LACKING THERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SO USING MODERN SAFETY
OBSTACLES. 
          WE'RE ALSO IMPLEMENTING A NEW PUBLIC COMMUNICATION MANDATE. 
          WE HEARD OUR RESIDENTS THERE FOR ALL UPCOMING PROJECTS TO ENSURE RESIDENTS ARE FULLY
INFORMED BEFORE ANY FUTURE BIG PROJECTS OCCUR. 
          MAYOR. YES. COMMISSIONER. YES. CITY MANAGER. YOU KNOW,
I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS. 
          I, I DID HAVE, YOU KNOW, MY PHONE DID BLOW UP ABOUT THE TIRES BEING REMOVED. 
          I SHARED THOSE COMMENTS WITH YOU. GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE USED THOSE TIRES. 
          I THINK THAT AND I, I UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE TIRES WERE REMOVED. 
          THEY HAD BELTS POKING OUT. THERE WAS A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THOSE EXISTING TIRES. 
          NOW I'D LIKE TO THINK THERE'S SOME SORT OF SOLUTION OUT THERE THAT MIMICS AND RESEMBLES
TIRES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT BRING SOME SORT OF YOU KNOW, MEMORY OR,
OR, OR VERY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAD BEFORE. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO TURN THE PLACE INTO A SUPERFUND
SITE WITH, YOU KNOW, 12 TIRES IN A, IN A CIRCLE, AS SOME HAVE HAVE SUGGESTED. 
          BUT I DO, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR. 
          AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO THAT COMPANY I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THAT DOES PROVIDE HAS
PROVIDED EQUIPMENT TO OTHERS IN THE, 
          [01:25:04]
IN THE REGION, JACKSONVILLE BEACH AND NEPTUNE BEACH FOR EQUIPMENT. 
          SEE IF MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMETHING. SO BUT ANYWAY,
I'D LIKE US TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL IN WHAT WE DO NEXT. 
          THERE. THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT REPORT IS ON THE SHERMAN CREEK RESTORATION AND
FLOOD MITIGATION FUNDING THAT WE ARE WE ARE CURRENTLY PURSUING WITH OUR MILLION DOLLAR FY 26 FEDERAL DUNE WALKOVER FUNDING
REQUEST PENDING. 
          WE'RE SHIFTING FOCUS TO OUR FY 27 COMMUNITY PROJECTS REQUESTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND THAT IS DREDGING SHERMAN CREEK. AND THIS,
OF COURSE, IS OUR COMMUNITY'S MAJOR DRAINAGE ARTERY. 
          AND WE HAVE WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A $1.5 MILLION PROJECT PLAN. 
          AND WE'RE JUST IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF PLANNING THAT PROJECT AND WE ALREADY HAVE A
FUNDING REQUEST INITIATED. 
          AND FINALLY, UNDER OTHER REPORTS. YES. COMMISSIONER. 
          NO. COMMISSIONER I HAD YES. SO IS THIS IS THIS THE,
THE, THE, THE RESTORATION OF SHERMAN CREEK BEYOND THE TWO AREAS WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED? YES. MEANING THE, THE THIS IS FROM THE LAGOON TO THE COUNTRY CLUB. 
          OKAY. AND WHAT ABOUT THE AREA THAT THE COUNTRY CLUB AND THOSE HOMEOWNERS TOUCH? ARE WE ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT YET? THE AREA BEYOND THE,
THE SOUTHERNMOST PART OF THE COUNTRY CLUB. 
          YEAH. I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW. I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. 
          AS FAR AS I KNOW IS AS IS TO THE COUNTRY CLUB. 
          I'LL GET YOU. I'LL GET YOU. YEAH. SO IT'S A BIG QUESTION,
RIGHT? IT'S IT'S BEEN LINGERING OUT THERE FOR, I MEAN,
EVERY TIME WE'VE ASKED AND IT'S WE THINK WE KNOW AND MAYBE WE DON'T, I, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY. I JUST BUT I DO THINK WE,
WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF SHERMAN'S CREEK FOR, FOR SOME SORT OF DREDGING. AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE,
THE, THE CLUB IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THE COURSES GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH A MAJOR RESTORATION PROBABLY WON'T GET STARTED TILL 30. 
          THAT'S NOT TOO FAR AWAY. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING AND,
AND ALL THOSE THINGS, AND IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO DO IT RIGHT. WHILE THE COURSE IS UNPLAYABLE. 
          AND WHILE THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK AND I MEAN,
I SEE THAT PLACE, YOU KNOW, I, I, IT NEEDS SOME HELP, I THINK. AND SO IT JUST, WE'VE DREDGED ON EITHER SIDE OF IT,
YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING IN THE MIDDLE? SO WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S, YOU KNOW,
I, I, IT'S A WATERWAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'D BE,
I'VE NEVER HEARD OF HOMEOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR DREDGING LIKE THAT, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF I KNOW EVEN SHERMAN CREEK FROM PLAZA TO THE COUNTRY CLUB. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY PRIVATE PROPERTY. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH,
THE, THE CANAL ITSELF IS OKAY. 
          IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TRICKY. AND I'LL GET BACK TO,
TO YOU ALL THE INSURANCE QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. YES. COMMISSIONER JUST LIKE TO CALL OUT UP STEPH. 
          YOU CAN THANK OUR CITY ENGINEER. AND KEVIN, MAYBE YOU COULD ADD ON TO THIS. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT AT SOME OF THESE REQUESTS FOR FUNDING,
GRANTS GO DOWN AND SHAKE STEVE'S HAND BECAUSE KEVIN, YOU CAN PITCH IN HERE. I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE. 
          HE'S AN INVALUABLE ASSET TO THIS CITY, AND HE DOES A LOT THAT YOU'RE NOT SEEING HERE AND A
LOT IN THE FUNDING AREA. 
          JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          OKAY. JUST A FEW MORE ITEMS. THE MARY STREET DRAINAGE PROJECT THAT'S ON YOUR CONSENT
AGENDA. 
          IT INVOLVES A COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS ALONG MAYOR MARY AND STUART STREETS
JUST SOUTH OF DUTTON ISLAND ROAD. 
          THIS IS DESIGNED TO MITIGATE FLOODING BY EXPANDING EXISTING PIPE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          75% OF THAT WORK IS GRANT FUNDED, SECURED BY THE AFOREMENTIONED STEVE SWANN. 
          BOTH OF THOSE STREETS ARE ALSO WITHIN THE CATCHMENT AREA OF SHERMAN CREEK. 
          JUST AGAIN, JUST A FEW MORE AND I'LL JUMP DOWN TO MENTIONING THAT WE HAVE A NEW DISCUSSION
AT CITY HALL ABOUT DEVELOPING A POLICY FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. A TURF BLOCK RESIDENTIAL COST SHARING PROGRAM,
WHICH WOULD COMBINE CITY FUNDS AND PRIVATE FUNDS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE TO IMPROVE ESTHETICS AND TO IMPROVE PUBLIC PARKING IN FRONT OF HOMES,
PARTICULARLY IN OLD ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          AND SO STAY TUNED. I'LL HAVE SOMETHING ON THAT FOR YOUR NEXT AGENDA. 
          AND, AND FINALLY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO JUST NOTE THE HOWELL PARK PLANTING THIS WEEKEND AND
ALL THE WORK THAT OUR VOLUNTEERS 
          [01:30:03]
AND STAFF HAVE TEAMED UP TO DO. HOWELL PARK IS JUST A,
A DIFFERENT PLACE TO WALK THROUGH THAN IT WAS 6 MONTHS AGO. 
          IT'S, IT'S STUNNING. AND I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GET ON OUT TO THAT PARK. 
          WHEN YOU CAN. AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING
ELSE. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANKS. LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 4. COMMISSIONER REPORTS. 
          [4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS]
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH COMMISSIONER. BOLE. 
          YEP. I'VE ALREADY PROBABLY TALKED TOO MUCH TONIGHT,
BUT JUST AN UPDATE AS I DO EVERY MEETING. 
          THE RP IS OUT FOR THE EXECUTIVE SEARCH FIRM. WE'LL REPORT TO YOU BACK. 
          EVERY MEETING AND ALSO WE'VE ADVERTISED AND I THINK WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE,
BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S OUT ON THE STREET, SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. I CAN'T REMEMBER. 
          DID WE DECIDE WHO'S GOING TO RECEIVE THOSE RESPONSES? IT'S, IT'S A PROCUREMENT. IT GOES THROUGH THE REGULAR CITY. 
          YEAH. WE DECIDED SORRY PATTY WOULD HANDLE THAT,
BUT ONCE THAT'S DONE WHO IS GOING TO COORDINATE IF WE. 
          I ASSUME WE'LL THIS BODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT THOSE. 
          I MEAN, PROCUREMENT CAN GO AHEAD AND SCREEN THEM FOR COMPLIANCE. 
          BUT WHAT WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND GET THIS ON THE AGENDA IS WHERE I'M GOING. 
          OKAY. OKAY. SO SO WOULD WE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY RESPONDENTS MIGHT BE 2 MIGHT BE
20. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. I THINK MAYBE WE GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETING. 
          FOLLOWING THE CLOSURE, WHATEVER THAT DATE. SO WE'RE 30 DAYS OUT FROM A FEW DAYS AGO. 
          YEAH, WE, I THINK WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE APRIL 13TH. 
          NO. I'M SORRY. PROBABLY THE MAY 11TH. RIGHT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT PENCILED IN ON
THE CALENDAR. 
          AND THEN BASED ON THE RESPONSES THAT WE'RE GETTING,
DECIDE HOW MUCH TIME THAT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE MAYBE IT HAS TO BE DONE SEPARATELY FROM A REGULAR MEETING. 
          I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW. PLENTY OF SEPARATE MEETINGS,
BUT. 
          BUT WE NEED TO PLAN, RIGHT? AND I DO TELL YOU THAT AS A COMMISSIONER. 
          I'M DOING RESEARCH ON THESE COMPANIES. I THINK I MENTIONED THIS. 
          THERE'S MIXED RESULTS, YOU KNOW. TALK TO YOUR YOUR NEIGHBORING CITIES AND YOU CAN KIND OF
SEE WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THEM. 
          YEAH. BUT YES. AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED THE CITIZENS COMMITTEE AND A FEW OTHER THINGS. 
          SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CODIFY THAT AT THAT MEETING. 
          BUT I THINK MY REPORT BACK TO YOU IS WE HAD A DISCUSSION IF THE RFP WAS OUT. 
          I'M JUST ALL I'M SAYING TONIGHT IS I KNOW. THANK YOU. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER KELLY. 
          I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. COMMISSIONER. 
          RING. YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I APPRECIATED THE ESC WORKSHOP AND OUR PRIORITY WORKSHOP AND
HAVING THAT TIME SET ASIDE, ESPECIALLY FOR ESC. I DID TAKE AWAY SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO BRING HOME AS MY PRIORITY. 
          I KNOW WE'RE DOING PRIORITY SETTING IN APRIL,
BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN. 
          MARSH RESTORATION PILOT PROGRAM I. LOVED SEEING THAT. 
          AND THANK YOU TO STEVE SWANN FOR HIS HARD WORK IN THAT ALONG WITH HUNTER. 
          AND I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON HIS LAST NAME AND THE OYSTERS. 
          I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT. AND DONNER PARK. WOW. 
          SO MARCH OR NO, IT WAS FEBRUARY 23RD. THE TIME'S JUST GOING FAST. 
          I. IT'S LIKE DEJA VU BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT I HAD RAN DRILLED IT IN LAST YEAR THAT
DONNER PARK. 
          WAS ONE OF MY TOP PRIORITIES AND HERE I'LL MAKE IT AGAIN. 
          AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'LL HAVE TO. SAY THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          BUT I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT HERE WE ARE. A YEAR LATER AND I'M HAVING TO PUT IT RIGHT
BACK ON. 
          SO HOPEFULLY NEW YEAR. BUT DIFFERENT. IF IT HELPS. 
          IF IT HELPS, YOU'LL GET A SECOND ON THAT FOR ME. 
          ALRIGHT, SO DONNER PARK AND OF COURSE THE MARSH I DID WANT TO JUST HARP ON THAT A BIT. 
          I WOULD LOVE AN UPDATE ON MAYPORT ROAD. I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL. 
          I DID RESPOND TO IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO REGARDING SOME ISSUES ON MAYPORT. 
          I WOULD LIKE I KNOW THAT SHOULD BE ROLLING OUT HERE SOON. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY TIME AND I KNOW THAT IS FDOT COMPLETELY,
BUT I DON'T WANT TO JUST DRIVE OUT IN FRONT OF ME PORT ROAD AT 8 A.M. TO GET MY CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND REALIZE THAT IT'S ALL SHUT DOWN. 
          SO BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD. 
          SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION GOES AHEAD OF THAT? WE WILL WORK WITH FDOT TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC WHEN,
WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION IS IMMINENT. 
          WE DID GET A REPORT THIS WEEK THAT THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING HAS BEEN POSTPONED TO MAY
21ST, 
          [01:35:07]
SO IT'S GOING TO BE WELL AFTER THAT BEFORE THEY BEFORE THEY TURN ANY DIRT ON MAPLE ROAD. 
          OKAY. SO WAY AFTER ME. YES. I THINK AT LEAST JULY NOW,
I'M AFRAID. 
          DID THEY HAVE A REASON? I, I JUST KNOW THEIR,
THEIR TIMELINE IS PUSHED BACK AND THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS MAY 21ST. 
          AS IS TYPICAL WITH GOVERNMENT PROJECTS. RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. 
          COMMISSIONER. GREAT. THANKS, MAYOR. I DID TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT I WANTED TO CONVEY IN THE
CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          I I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RFP FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET. 
          IS THAT GOING OUT YET OR IS IT? WE'RE ABOUT TO WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? I THINK THAT COULD HIT THE STREET AS EARLY AS AS THE END OF THE WEEK,
HOWEVER. 
          I WANT YOU ALL TO LOOK AT IT FIRST. I HAVE A FINAL DRAFT ON YOUR ON MY DESK THAT I NEED TO
GET TO YOU ALL TOMORROW. 
          OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. AND THEN LASTLY YOU KNOW,
WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LIVE IN THE ONE OF THE BEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD AND, AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH,
I THINK IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND, AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE OPEN COMMENTS FROM OUR CITIZENS IN OUR COURTEOUSLY
COURTESY OF THE FLOOR SECTION. BUT TONIGHT SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT JUST DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH ME AND
I, I NEED TO CALL IT OUT. I'M, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE. 
          SO WE CELEBRATED THE, THE CAREER, 40 YEAR CAREER OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TONIGHT. 
          AND MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT MY, MY WIFE WAS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AS WELL. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND I, I MEAN, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW,
HE'S ONE OF THE MOST BELOVED POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE. 
          BUT LESS THAN 20 MINUTES LATER AND COURTESY OF THE FLOOR,
1 OF OUR CITIZENS MADE LIGHT REFERENCE TO THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ASSASSINATION AND SOMEONE HAVING TO REPLACE HIM IN OFFICE. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, IN TRYING TO DRAW PARALLEL WHY WE SHOULD PUT KEVIN IN OFFICE SINCE HE WAS
THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST DISGUSTING THINGS I'VE HEARD SINCE I'VE BEEN UP ON THIS DAIS. 
          AND IT WAS DONE IN EXTREMELY BAD TASTE. AND IN THE FUTURE,
I WOULD HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD TEMPER THEIR ACTIONS AND WORDS WITH WITH GREATER WISDOM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. 
          LET'S SEE. I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON MINE. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE TO WELL, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. 
          [6. CONSENT AGENDA]
SO CONSENT AGENDA, ALL MATTERS. THIS IS ITEM SIX. 
          CONSENT AGENDA. ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE
BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW. 
          THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE
CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. 
          SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE
CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. ITEM 6.A APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-396B APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-41 AND 6.C,
APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-42. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANY OR ALL OF THESE ITEMS TO DISCUSS? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT. AGENDA ITEM 6.A THROUGH 6.C AS WRITTEN SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION, AND SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I. 
          I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO ITEM 8.A. 
          [8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 26-44]
RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-44, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC
BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE RENEWAL OF 155 155 USER LICENSES OF MICROSOFT OFFICE. 
          365 GCC GOVERNMENT COMMUNITY CLOUD FROM S H I INTERNATIONAL CORP AT A PRICE OF $37,682.05, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025-26. 
          BUDGET ACCOUNT NUMBER 001-1011-516-. 40 600. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF
THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR.. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU MAYOR FOR TRANSITIONING TO OFFICE 365 TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY. 
          [01:40:02]
ENHANCED PRODUCTIVITY AND COLLABORATION AND INCREASED SECURITY. 
          THIS IS ON YOUR AGENDA, NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA BECAUSE WE ADDED IT TO THE FINAL AGENDA. 
          NO, FOR NO OTHER REASON. WE ASK THAT YOU ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2644. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? OH, YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. 
          BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. HOW'S OUR NEW SOFTWARE WORKING OUT? GOT TO SEE. 
          WE'VE WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF HICCUPS. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MORE GOOD STORIES TO TELL THAN BAD. 
          IT'S GOING OVERALL SWIMMINGLY. ALTHOUGH I COULD NAME TEN OF THOSE HICCUPS. 
          MAYBE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. IT'S A, IT'S A NEW ERA FOR US AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING
YET. 
          AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A REALLY GOOD REPORT. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD STORY TO TELL. 
          AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK THE RESIDENTS OF ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          AND, AND THE THE GRANT PROVIDER WHO HELPED FUND THIS FOR THIS,
IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO BE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY MUCH BETTER. 
          THANKS, COMMISSIONER. AND THE OTHER, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS,
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS GONE TO, TO MICROSOFT 365 DUE TO THIS SECURITY, PHISHING,
ETC., ETC.. 
          SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE GOLD STANDARD RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT. 2644. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND,
NOW WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. NO HEARING, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I. 
          I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 8.B RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-46. 
          [8.B. RESOLUTION NO. 26-46]
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA. AUTHORIZING AND RATIFYING THE CITY
MANAGER'S EXECUTION OF AN EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE WITH RING POWER CORPORATION FOR THE REPAIR OF A WATER PLANT GENERATOR PROVIDING FOR THE RATIFICATION OF AN EMERGENCY CONTROL PANEL
UPGRADE PURSUANT TO SECTION 338 OF THE CITY CODE, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE AND EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR.. HOGENCAMP. THANKS. THIS RESOLUTION WOULD FORMALLY RATIFY THE EMERGENCY ACTION THAT I
TOOK. 
          AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, THIS TOTAL EXPENDITURE WAS ALLOCATED FROM OUR FROM OUR PLANT
MAINTENANCE FUND, AND I RECOMMEND THAT YOU ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2646. 
          RECOMMEND WE ADOPT RESOLUTION 2646. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE. 
          OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. NOT LIKE WE CAN UNDO IT. 
          YEAH. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ALL THE WAY TO ITEM. 
          THERE'S NO ORDINANCES. SO WE'LL SKIP 9 AND MOVE TO 10. 
          [10.A. Environmental Stewardship Committee Priorities]
A ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE. PRIORITIES. 
          MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU. WE FOLLOWED UP WITH WITH YOUR THE COMMISSION'S REQUEST TO HAVE
THIS ON TODAY'S AGENDA. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S NECESSARILY ACTION TO TAKE,
BUT I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND AND ADVANCE OF YOUR PRIORITY SETTING SESSION STAFF IS GOING TO ADVANCE THE PRIORITIES THAT THAT REQUIRE FUNDING. 
          THE MARSH RESTORATION PILOT PROJECT. THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY PUBLIC LANDSCAPE PROGRAM ON,
ON, ON PUBLIC PROPERTY THE PARKS MASTER PLAN UPDATE MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE PUBLIC FUNDING. 
          WE DON'T KNOW YET, BUT WE ARE GOING TO ADVANCE HAVING THAT ADDRESSED IN THE NEXT FISCAL
YEAR. 
          AND SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD,
OF COURSE, WITH THE CHAPTER 23 UPDATES. 
          AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE ANY ACTION OR ADVISE ME ACCORDINGLY LET ME KNOW. 
          OTHERWISE YOU'LL SEE THIS BACK AT THE PRIORITY SETTING SESSION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE. I DO HAVE A COMMENT. 
          I I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOME, SOME ESTIMATED COSTS FOR IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF GETTING STARTED ON,
ON THE MARSH PROJECTS, BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT LIKE ON THE UPDATE OF THE, OF THE PARK'S MASTER PLAN, NOT UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I HAVE AN OPINION THAT THIS SHOULD BE OUTSOURCED TO A PRIVATE FIRM TO
DO A STUDY AT A COST, OR WHETHER THIS IS SOMETHING REASONABLY HANDLED BY STAFF. 
          SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE ONE SECOND BEFORE WE MAKE ANY
DECISIONS TO SPEND MONEY ON A AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. COMMISSIONER. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNOWS OUR PARKS BETTER THAN WE DO. 
          RIGHT. AND I, I DON'T SEE VALUE IN OUTSOURCING IT TO STRANGERS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW MANY
KIDS GO TO JACK RUSSELL OR WHATEVER. 
          I MEAN, THAT WE, WE CREATED THAT PLAN OUT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN,
AND OUT OF IT AROSE NATURALLY EASE. 
          AND I THINK NOW'S THE TIME FOR US TO GO BACK AND SAY,
ARE WE SURE WE STILL WANT TO DO THAT? OF COURSE. SO I, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON IT. 
          [01:45:01]
OKAY. PUT SARA ON IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. 
          [10.B. Beach Driving Request - Dune House]
YOUR LET'S SEE WHAT'S NEXT HERE. I CAN TURN THE PAGE. 
          OKAY. BEACH DRIVING REQUEST. REQUEST FROM DUNE HOUSE. 
          THAT'S MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU. I HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA SIMPLY TO ADVISE YOU THAT WE
HAVE A REQUEST FOR COMMERCIAL BEACH USE AND ACCESS AND VEHICLE OPERATIONS. SPECIFICALLY, IT'S FOR DUNE. THE REQUEST IS FROM DUNE HOUSE. 
          WE'RE WE'RE ANALYZING THAT REQUEST, AND I'VE DRAFTED A POLICY THAT ESTABLISHES GUIDELINES
THAT COULD MAKE THIS HAPPEN IF WE SO CHOOSE. YOU'LL SEE THIS AT AN UPCOMING ON AN UPCOMING AGENDA. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. YES. DO WE HAVE ANY CONTEXT INTO INTO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? SURE. IS THIS LIKE SOME FOUR WHEELER GOING OUT TO THE BEACH TO UNLOAD BEACH CHAIRS? PRECISELY. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING. YES. 
          OKAY. AND JUST A LITTLE FURTHER. THE CITY CODE GIVES ME THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT SUCH A
REQUEST. 
          I STILL MIGHT OPT TO BRING THAT TO YOU. OR MAY GRANT IT. 
          OR I MAY DENY IT. I'M REVIEWING THE REQUEST NOW. 
          OKAY. YES. COMMISSIONER. CITY MANAGER. DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULD BRING IT BEFORE THE
COMMISSION STILL? I KNOW THAT ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. 
          BUT BECAUSE I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR FOR ONE,
AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS. 
          I DID SPEAK TO CITY MANAGER LAST FRIDAY ABOUT IT. 
          NONE OF THOSE HOTELS OWN THE BEACH. AND RIGHT NOW AS IT STANDS,
MAYBE THERE'S LESS THAN 20. 
          BUT IS IT AS IT GETS RENOVATED? ARE WE LOOKING AT THEM GOING FROM 20 TO 40 TO 60 AND VERY
BUSY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE A TIKI LOUNGE. 
          APPARENTLY THEY'RE OPENING ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT'S,
YOU KNOW, NOT GOING TO BE A [INAUDIBLE] THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE THE TIKI LOUNGE, WHICH IS A POOL ON THE OTHER. 
          MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S LESS SPACE, AND I KNOW THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THAT
STRIVING. 
          BUT I DO WANT JUST, YOU KNOW, HOW FAR DO WE OPEN THAT THAT GATE UP? AND I HAVE ALREADY SHARED THOSE THOUGHTS WITH CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP ABOUT THAT. 
          THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I, I LIKE COMMISSIONER GRANT INITIALLY THOUGHT JUST A FEW GATORS ON
THE, ON THE BEACH BECAUSE RIGHT AS IT STANDS, IT'S NOT TOO BUSY,
BUT WITH THE RENOVATIONS THAT ARE COMING, JUST HOW BUSY WILL IT BE AND HOW MUCH WILL IT BE A TAKEOVER? WILL IT AFFECT OUR LIFEGUARDS? IT'S SANDWICHED BETWEEN 2 LIFEGUARD STATIONS AS IT IS. 
          SO THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. THANKS. 
          COMMISSIONER THROUGH THE MAYOR. OH, PLEASE. WELL,
DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FIRST? OH, SORRY. SURE. I'VE HEARD ENOUGH TODAY TO ASSURE YOU THAT I AM GOING TO BRING THIS BACK
TO YOU FOR YOUR YOUR APPROVAL. 
          AND ALSO, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. 
          AND THE APPLICANT, THE, THE REQUESTER WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS WELL. 
          OKAY. HE'S THE ONE. I BEG YOUR PARDON? COMMISSIONER. 
          GRANT. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK. HAVE WE HAD THE LIFEGUARDS TRAINING THAT WE HAD THE
LIFEGUARDS CHIME IN ON THIS? YES. YES. WE'VE CONSULTED WITH OUR LIFEGUARDS. 
          OKAY. YES. GREAT. OKAY. THE ACCESS. MAYBE YOU'RE GOING THERE. 
          THE LIFEGUARDS. DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS. 
          AND THE ACCESS WOULD BE ON ATLANTIC BOULEVARD ONLY NOT [INAUDIBLE]. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. GOOD CONVERSATION. POTENTIALLY. 
          YEAH. BECAUSE THE YEAR OF THE HURRICANE, WE WE BARRICADED THE BEACH ACCESS AND GOT IN
TROUBLE WITH CBP. 
          THAT HAPPENS. ALRIGHT WE ARE AT CITY ATTORNEY. 
          REPORT. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT, SIR. ALRIGHT. 
          THEN WE'LL MOVE DIRECTLY TO COMMISSIONER RING FOR FINAL COMMENTS. 
          [12. CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]
MY LAST COMMENT IS THAT I WILL NOT BE HERE. MEET MARCH 23RD. 
          I WILL BE AT MY SISTER'S WEDDING OVER THE POND. 
          OH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ATLANTIC. YES, WELL. 
          VERY NICE. NOT ACROSS THE DITCH. A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. YEAH. THAT'S IT. WELL,
IT COULD BE CONSTRUED. 
          SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'LL BE AN INTERESTING ONE WITH THE WATER DEAL,
BUT I WON'T BE HERE FOR THAT CONVO. 
          THANK YOU MAN. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER. GRANT. COMMISSIONER. 
          KELLY. NOTHING. COMMISSIONER. BOLE. NOTHING. OH,
MR.. 
          HOGENCAMP. OKAY, I HAVE ONE FINAL COMMENT. I I'M SO PROUD OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          [01:50:02]
I'M VERY PROUD OF OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE, CHIEF VICK. 
          THE IT'S, IT'S A VERY, IT'S A, IT'S MORE THAN A COLLEGIAL GROUP. 
          YOU GUYS ARE LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN ARMS. YOU SUPPORT EACH OTHER. YOU SHOW UP HERE IN COMMISSION. 
          SOMETIMES I WISH YOU'D STAY HOME BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE TO TO SEEK MORE FUNDING FOR MORE
PATROL CARS. 
          BUT YOU GUYS ARE A GREAT TEAM. AND, AND SO FOR OUR CITIZENS WHO DON'T KNOW IF YOU,
IF YOU WERE IN THE POLICE BUILDING, THEY HAVE WE'LL CALL IT THE WALL OF HONOR OR WHATEVER THEY HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS OF ALL THEIR
THEIR POLICE OFFICERS. 
          AND SO ROBBIE HAS PHOTOGRAPHS GOING BACK 40 YEARS AGO. 
          THE OFFICER ROBERT BUT THERE'S ALSO A PHOTOGRAPH. 
          THERE'S MULTIPLE PHOTOGRAPHS OF OUR CHIEF IN THERE. 
          AND I THINK 1 OF THEM LOOKS LIKE MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE 18 YEARS OLD. 
          THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME,
AND IT REALLY SHOWS IN THE WAY THE COMMUNITY RESPECTS AND RECEIVES AND ENGAGES. AND I ALWAYS PUT A PLUG IN AND CHIEF KNOWS THIS IS KEEP TELLING THE NEW GUYS,
ROLL THE WINDOW DOWN AND SAY HELLO BECAUSE WE, THIS CITY LOVES THAT. AND THAT'S WHY YOU GET SO MANY COMPLIMENTS ON OFFICER HARDING IS HE
TAKES TIME TO SAY HELLO UNLESS HE'S RUNNING TO A, YOU KNOW, CRISIS. BUT WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. THAT'S MY FINAL COMMENT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.