Apr 06, 2026 Priority Setting Meeting

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ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. IT'S CRAZY. WELCOME, EVERYONE.

[CALL TO ORDER ]

ALRIGHT. THIS MEETING WILL NOW COME TO ORDER.

THIS IS OUR COMMISSION PRIORITY SETTING, SETTING, MEETING FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH DATED MONDAY, APRIL 6TH, 2026. WELCOME TO OUR ESTEEMED PANELIST TONIGHT, OUR COMMISSION AND OUR GUESTS. BEFORE WE REALLY GET GOING, WE'LL HAVE A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU'LL JOIN ME.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU. AND BEFORE I ACTUALLY MOVE ON, I WANT TO THANK LINDA LANIER FOR JOINING US YET AGAIN.

AND I WAS REMINDED TODAY, THIS IS OUR NINTH YEAR OF DOING THIS, AND WE SO APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SO NOW YOU GOT TO GO FOR THE 10TH NEXT YEAR TO MAKE IT AN EVEN TEN.

[2. PUBLIC COMMENT ]

YES. OKAY. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IS A LITTLE STRANGE ON THE SETUP.

SO THIS CHAIR UP HERE WILL BE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M ASKING TO LIMIT TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER ACCEPTABLE GUYS.

OKAY, THEN LADAYIJA WHO'S OUR FIRST CONTESTANT? SARAH BOREN. THIS ONE, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THAT'S YOU. HI, EVERYONE. SARAH BOREN.

3888 STREET. LINDA, THANK YOU AGAIN. I JUST HAD A COUPLE COMMENTS ON THE THE FRAMING OF YOUR PRIORITIES IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN THEMES.

I AM HOPING THAT MAYBE NOT TONIGHT, BUT BEFORE YOU DECIDE BUDGET THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER REFINING THE VISION AND STRATEGIC THEMES FOR CLARITY, ONE, DEFINING WHAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER MEANS.

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS FLOATING OUT THERE, AND I THINK IT LEADS TO CONFUSION.

TWO ADDING PROTECT AND PRESERVE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND PROPERTY THROUGH ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AS A STRATEGIC PLAN THEME.

I WENT BACK TO THE VISION. I COUNTED 21 WORDS THAT APPLY TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IN THE VISION, BUT I WAS TOLD BY THE FORMER CITY MANAGER BECAUSE IN THE VISION IT DIDN'T HAVE AN ACTIVE VERB BEFORE THOSE WORDS.

IT DIDN'T BECOME A STRATEGIC PLAN THEME. BUT I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THEN I HAVE WATCHED LINDA DO THIS AMAZING PROCESS OVER SEVERAL YEARS AND ONE THING THAT KEEPS COMING UP IS OR TWO IS COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. SO IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN THEME, OTHER UNDER SUSTAINABILITY OF FINANCIAL, FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY AND KIND OF UNDER ORGANIZING ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, YOU WOULD ADD FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY, COMMUNICATIONS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A CONTINUAL THEME.

SO IT'S KIND OF HOW TO RUN A GOOD ORGANIZATION.

AND THEN IT LOOKS LIKE BASED ON WHAT KEVIN HAS PUT HERE BEFORE YOU.

THANK YOU, KEVIN, FOR CAPTURING S MAIN PRIORITIES, WHICH ARE MATURE LANDMARK TREES, OBVIOUSLY TREE CANOPY, ANYTHING WE CAN DO BOTH IN PROTECTING THE THE BIG LANDMARK ONES, BUT ALSO CONTINUING TO PLANT AND EXPAND OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE CANOPY STORMWATER MARSH PILOT. AND THEN IT'S KIND OF THROUGHOUT KEVIN'S COMMENTS, BUT COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IS A BIG THEME THAT ALSO KEEPS COMING UP. AND THEN FINALLY JUST TO BEG, I KNOW IT'S NOT BUDGET TIME, BUT TO SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FOR THAT COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH WHETHER IT'S THROUGH STAFF BUDGETS OR WHEREVER AND OR LIKE THE AWARDS, WHICH I THINK KEVIN IS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT. SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. THANK YOU. MIKE WALSH.

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AND I'M HERE TODAY JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN SHERRY AND SPECIFICALLY SPEEDING.

AND MY NEIGHBOR MICHAEL IS GOING TO COME UP HERE AND SAY A FEW WORDS.

HE'S DONE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF RESEARCH, AND I KIND OF SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT HE'S DONE IN TERMS OF SOME OF HIS FINDINGS.

AND FOR ME, WE HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS WHO ARE EIGHT AND 12, AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER FAMILIES ON SHERRY THAT HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN.

OUR DAUGHTER'S AGE OR EVEN YOUNGER AND A LOT OF BIKES, A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE WIDE SIDEWALKS AND THE SCHOOL BEING NEARBY ON SHERRY, THERE'S JUST A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF FLOW OF PEOPLE CONSTANTLY WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

AND SO THAT MAKES SPEEDING EVEN MORE OF AN ISSUE OF A SAFETY ISSUE WITH A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN.

AND I THINK THAT PART OF THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID A BAD EVENT FROM HAPPENING WITH SOME OF THE SPEEDING AND SOME OF THE AGGRESSIVE DRIVING.

I KNOW THAT FOR MYSELF, THAT EVEN WHEN I'M PULLING IN MY DRIVEWAY, IF I'M WAITING FOR A BIKER OR A PEDESTRIAN TO GO BY, CARS WILL QUEUE UP BEHIND ME AND TRY TO START PASSING GOING THE OTHER WAY.

AND IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. YOU COULD PROBABLY ASK ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE STREET AND THEY'LL TELL YOU THE SAME THING.

SO IT'S JUST GOTTEN A LOT WORSE OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, AT LEAST.

AND THERE'S USUALLY NOT TOO MUCH OF A POLICE PRESENCE EITHER.

SO THAT KIND OF ALLOWS PEOPLE TO SPEED THROUGH CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOT ANY RISK OF GETTING PULLED OVER OR GETTING A SPEEDING TICKET.

IT SEEMS LIKE IN A LOT OF CASES. AND THE ONE OTHER THING TOO, THAT WE'VE SEEN MORE OF LATELY IS THAT THERE'S MANY TRUCKS THAT ARE KIND OF COMING THROUGH AND USING SHERRY AS A BYPASS TO GET TO MAYPORT ROAD IS LIKE A CUT THROUGH.

SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF LARGE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

MICHAEL EVEN HAS PICTURES OF IT AND HAS IT WELL DOCUMENTED.

HE'S GOING TO KIND OF SPEAK ON THAT. SO I THINK IN SUMMARY, REALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WE JUST WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE CANNOT, AS A COMMUNITY, TAKE A VERY AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO TRY TO CURB THIS PROBLEM AND REALLY CREATE A VERY SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES AND FOR ALL OF OUR CHILDREN WHO ARE BIKING AND WALKING UP. SHERRY, ON A VERY REGULAR BASIS.

AND I THANK EVERYBODY FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WALSH. FRED JONES.

HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING THIS EVENING? AM I ON? THANK YOU.

FRED JONES, 392 SEVENTH STREET. FORMER MEMBER OF THE CITY'S PARKING, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT MET PROBABLY ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.

I'M ALSO HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SHERRY DRIVE SITUATION, THE, THE, THE PERCEIVED AND OR REAL CONCERNS RELATED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY THROUGH HERE. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW THE CITY ALSO RECENTLY PROVIDED SOME COMMENTS ABOUT OR AT LEAST AN ASSESSMENT OF TRAFFIC CONDITIONS THERE. I WON'T BELABOR THE SHORTCOMINGS OF THAT STUDY.

BUT I WILL TALK, I WILL SAY THAT IT'S REALLY JUST AN ISSUE OF VALUES.

AS A COMMISSION, YOU GUYS HAVE THE FULL AUTHORITY TO DO, TO DESIGN, TO PLAN AND CHANGE THE OR THE GEOMETRY OF SHERRY DRIVE HOWEVER YOU WISH.

IT'S NOT A CITY OF JACKSONVILLE ROAD. IT'S NOT AN FDOT ROAD.

IT'S PRIMARILY A RESIDENTIAL STREET ALL, THERE'S A NUMBER OF HOMES THAT FRONT IT AS WELL AS A SCHOOL.

SO I JUST SAY I DON'T WANT TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

I WE'VE THOUGHT A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THAT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SOLUTIONS FOR HERE, BUT I THINK WE REALLY JUST NEED A, A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO MOVING FORWARD TO PREVENT ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING.

A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE DO IN THIS SPACE IS WE WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO GET HURT BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION.

THERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THAT THAT JUST HAPPENED ON PENMAN ROAD.

YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE OF THE FIVE WAY. I WAS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN NEPTUNE BEACH, AND WE RECOMMENDED DOING A ROUNDABOUT THERE IN 2019.

IT TOOK A NINTH GRADER TO DIE FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE TO FINALLY PRIORITIZE THAT PROJECT WHICH IS 20 MILLION IN THE CIP.

SO I WILL JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL MONEY THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED AND TO LOOK AT DOING SOME TRAFFIC CALMING THROUGH THERE.

AND THAT'LL BE IT. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. MIKE COOLEY.

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THE SHERRY DRIVE MATTER. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BACK AT THE PODIUM SEVERAL TIMES.

BUT THANKS FOR YOUR CONTINUED, YOU KNOW, PURSUIT OF THIS TALKING WITH COJ AND PUSHING THAT BALL DOWN THE FIELD. BUT IN SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DEFINITELY HELPFUL TAKEAWAYS FROM THAT MEMO. I THINK ESPECIALLY HOW THEY IDENTIFY HOW THE CURRENT ROADWAY DESIGN IS INFLUENCING BEHAVIOR.

IT'S THE SECOND MEMO, BUT I WILL SAY IT DOES NOT FULLY ADDRESS THE CORE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, THE PETITION WAS NEVER REALLY ABOUT JUST SPEEDING OR, OR WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE STREET.

YOU KNOW, THE PETITION WAS MORE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW SHERRY IS FUNCTIONING OVERALL RIGHT NOW.

AND RIGHT NOW IT'S FUNCTIONING IN A WAY THAT FEELS UNSAFE, RIGHT? WE SAW A LOT ABOUT DATA, 85TH PERCENTILE, THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE, THE CITY'S MEMO.

BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF ONE LAYER OF THE ONION WITH THE ISSUE.

THE MEMO ITSELF TELLS US WHY, RIGHT WIDE LANES, LONG SIGHTLINES AND LACK OF HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION ARE SOME OF THE THINGS MENTIONED.

THESE ENCOURAGE HIGHER SPEEDS AND I MENTIONED IT BEFORE.

IT'S JUST KIND OF NATURALLY WHAT HAPPENS AS A DRIVER DRIVES.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A, I WOULD SAY, BEHAVIORAL ISSUE AS MUCH AS IT IS A DESIGN ISSUE.

HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THAT THROUGH DESIGN, THE CONCLUSIONS IN THE MEMO LARGELY ACCEPT SPEEDS AS NORMAL. AND, YOU KNOW, ON A COMMUNITY STREET, THAT'S AN ISSUE.

WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, 30, 30 MILES AN HOUR AND ABOVE, SOMEBODY GETTING HIT HAS A DRAMATICALLY HIGHER LIKELIHOOD OF BEING KILLED.

SO, AND I'LL KIND OF, I'LL SPEED THIS UP, BUT THE ANALYSIS FOCUSES IN THE MEMO HEAVILY ON SPEED CRASH HISTORY, AS FRED MENTIONED, THAT'S KIND OF A REACTIVE LOOKING BACK WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT RISK BY LOOKING AHEAD.

YOU KNOW, THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS RELY HEAVILY ON PAINT AND SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, AND RESPECTFULLY PAINT IS NOT PROTECTION. IT DOES NOT SLOW DISTRACTED DRIVER AND IT DOES NOT PREVENT A MISTAKE FROM BECOMING A SERIOUS INCIDENT.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES ON BOTH SIDES. YOU KNOW, THOSE WALKING AND THOSE DRIVING. WHAT DOES WORK AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER ARE PHYSICAL DESIGN BASED SOLUTIONS. THINGS LIKE SPEED TABLES, RAISED CROSSINGS, CURB EXTENSIONS AND OTHER PROVEN TOOLS THAT ACTUALLY CHANGE BEHAVIOR WHILE SUPPORTING EMERGENCY ACCESS. YOU KNOW, THE OBSERVATIONS, AGAIN, THOSE THAT JAY IS CONCURRING WITH ARE BASED ON VERY LIMITED WINDOWS OF OBSERVATION. IT DOESN'T INCLUDE LIKE REALLY HOW THE COMMUNITY LIVES.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A, I THINK IT'S LIKE A 9 TO 5 WINDOW ON, ON WEEKDAYS.

WELL, WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE 9:00 SCHOOL, RIGHT? WHAT HAPPENS ON WEEKENDS ARE THE EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY BASED FUNCTIONS THAT WE HAVE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE THAT'S BEING OVERSIMPLIFIED.

AND I WILL SAY ALSO THAT THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE A CROSSWALK, THEY'RE BASING THAT ON, YOU KNOW, LOW OBSERVED USE. IN REALITY, THE CROSSING IS INCOMPLETE AND DOES NOT CONNECT TO A SIDEWALK.

SO I THINK I EMAILED YOU ALL EARLIER TODAY A MORE COMPLETE ANALYSIS, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. COOLEY. OF COURSE, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS WANTED TO HAVE.

THANK YOU TO EACH OF THE SPEAKERS. SO A FEW OF YOU MIGHT BE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD.

HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO OUR PRIORITY SESSION? FIRST OF ALL, IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT THAT ANYONE WISHES AT ANY TIME. THAT BEING SAID, IT COULD BE IN YOUR PRIORITIES.

PROBABLY NOT AS A SPECIFIC JUST THAT STREET, BUT A FOCUS ON TRAFFIC CALMING.

AND THAT COULD BE WHAT WAS THAT? BUT ANYWAYS THAT COULD BE THE FIRST PROJECT OF THE YEAR ON TRAFFIC CALMING. SO AGAIN, I THANK THE THE PRESENTERS TODAY FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.

[3. FY 2025-26 PRIORITIES REVIEW AND FY 2026-27 PRIORITIES OUTLOOK (CM HOGENCAMP) ]

WHO'S DOING THE REVIEW OF 2026-27? ARE YOU DOING THAT? YES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY.

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO THANK LINDA LANIER FOR DONATING HER TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THIS VERY CRITICAL EXERCISE.

NOW THE NINTH YEAR. SO GRATEFUL TO LINDA AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE OF THESE YET THAT HASN'T HELPED US PREPARE FOR OUR BUDGET PUTTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER. AND THAT'S INDEED WHAT TONIGHT IS.

IT'S THE KICKOFF. ALTHOUGH WE'RE BARELY INTO THE THIRD QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THIS KICKS OFF THE FISCAL YEAR 26-27 BUDGET PROCESS.

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WE'LL START WITH YOUR CITY COMMISSION BUDGET WORKSHOPS BY JUNE OR JULY, IF NOT SOONER.

OF COURSE, THE BUDGET ADOPTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT BEGINS OCTOBER 1ST.

THIS IS SEPTEMBER. I'D LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY REMIND YOU OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25-26 PRIORITIES.

AGAIN, WE'RE JUST IN THE SEVENTH, SEVENTH MONTH OF EXECUTING THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THAT THE CITY NANAGER IMPLEMENTED WITH THE, WITH YOUR GUIDANCE WE, WE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR.

I MEAN, THIS YEAR, WE CATEGORIZED THE PRIORITIES UNDER UNDER STRATEGIC THEMES THAT ARE INFORMED BY OUR VISION, BY OUR MISSION AND OUR VALUES AND UNDER CREATE A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING AND SAFETY.

WE HAD TWO ITEMS RECREATION WEBSITE UPDATE, CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SURVEYS, AND TO PRESERVE COMMUNITY CHARACTER, WE HAVE MATURE TREE PROTECTION AND SOME INITIATIVES UNDER THAT AND TO CONNECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES WITH STORMWATER MAINTENANCE AND TO PROMOTE SOCIALLY LINKED COMMUNITY THROUGH GREEN SPACES, ACTIVE LIFESTYLES, PARKS AND PROGRAMING, AND DOG PARK UPGRADES AND DOG PARK IMPROVEMENTS.

AND UNDER MAINS, MAINTAIN A STRONG FINANCIAL CONDITION SUITABLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE CITY'S VISION, WE HAVE LIABILITY REDUCTION, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, WATER METERING AND ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS ON ON NEARLY ALL OF THE THESE, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, SOME ARE EARLY IN PROGRESS, OTHERS ARE MODERATELY COMPLETED.

AND IN ADVANCE OF YOUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE MEMO DATED TODAY FROM ME TO HELP.

I HOPE TO HELP INFORM SOME OF YOUR DISCUSSIONS AND, AND OUTCOMES TONIGHT.

AND WHAT I'VE DONE IS CATEGORIZED BY THE PRIORITY AREAS.

THE SEVEN PRIORITY AREAS. IT'S IT'S A COALESCENCE OF, OF STAFF'S IDEAS OF WHAT, WHAT YOU MIGHT BE THINKING ABOUT.

IT'S HAS YOUR INPUT INCORPORATED? THE INPUT YOU PROVIDED.

ALSO THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE'S INPUT AND THE PUBLIC'S INPUT.

AND IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME REAL QUICKLY AGAIN AND I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH MY MEMO STARTING WITH 1 AND 1.A, UNDER UNDER ONE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT RESILIENCY AND THE MASTER PLAN AND MODELING A, FINALIZED THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE UTILIZING NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL HYDRAULIC MODELING TO ESTABLISH ONSITE STORAGE REQUIREMENTS, 1.B INFRASTRUCTURE AND FLOOD PROOFING TO EXECUTE PRIORITY CIP PROJECTS AND FLOOD PROOF THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY ENSURING THAT ALL OF OUR LIFT STATIONS CAN WITHSTAND MAJOR FLOODING. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS CONTINUATION OF A PRIORITY THAT WON'T BE COMPLETED IN FY 26-27, BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS. UNDER OPERATIONAL INNOVATION TO PRIORITIZE TURF LOCK INSTALLATION AND PERMEABLE TECHNOLOGY.

AND ALSO WORTHY OF ITS OWN ITEM IS TO SECURE FDEP CONCURRENCE FOR RECLAIMED WATER AUGMENTATION TO PROTECT HARDWOOD FORESTS AND SALT INTRUSION. THAT, OF COURSE, CORRELATES TO SENATE BILL 64 COMPLIANCE UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

I'M AT 2.A NOW TREE CANOPY PROTECTION TO STRENGTHEN THE TREE PROTECTION CODE, TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TREES PLANTED AND PRESERVED ANNUALLY THROUGH EXPANDED CITY PROGRAMS AND TO WORK WITH NON-PROFITS IN TERMS OF SEEING IF SOME LAND PROCUREMENT CAN, CAN CAN BE PART OF SAVING OUR TREE CANOPY. UNDER SCIENTIFIC MONITORING.

THIS IS AN ONGOING DISCUSSION THAT YOU'LL HAVE BEEN PART OF.

TO INCREASE THE USE OF GIS IN ENVIRONMENTAL MONITORING, I'LL REMIND YOU OF OUR TREE CANOPY ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH YOU TO GUIDE OUR DECISION MAKING REGARDING THE BEACH, THE MARSH, AND OUR TREE CANOPY.

THE MARSH RESTORATION. I'D LIKE TO SEE NOW TO FUND THE SALT MARSH RESTORATION PILOT PROGRAM AND TO EXECUTE TWO MAJOR MARSH FRONT PROJECTS TO COMBAT EROSION AND UNDER CONSERVATION EDUCATION TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY GARDENS, WHICH OPENS IN SEPTEMBER, AND TO EXPAND RESIDENT EDUCATION REGARDING FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND HABITAT PRESERVATION UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES.

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I'M AT 3.B NOW, SYSTEM RELIABILITY TO FOCUS ON INFLOW AND INFILTRATION REDUCTION AND UPGRADING OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS TO REDUCE PARTICLE OUTPUT AND ENSURE WATER SUPPLY SUSTAINABILITY UNDER RIGHT OF WAY STEWARDSHIP TO MAINTAIN A RIGOROUS AIR SCHEDULE FOR ROADS AND SIDEWALKS, WHILE PRIORITIZING THE REMOVAL OF OBSTRUCTIONS FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY AND UNDER STRATEGIC ASSET MANAGEMENT.

CONTINUATION OF THE CURRENT PRIORITY TO FULLY LINK THE TEN YEAR CIP TO THE NEW ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.

[INAUDIBLE] 4.A BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY TO CONDUCT FOCUSED ENFORCEMENT AND EDUCATION IN HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS, SCHOOL ZONES, AND BEACH ACCESS POINTS, AND TO PARTNER ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY DATA DRIVEN SAFETY SOLUTIONS AND THEIR UNDER TRAFFICKING, E-BIKES, E-BIKES, IMPLEMENT SAFETY TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND CRAFT E-BIKE LEGISLATION WITH A FOCUS ON SAFETY, EDUCATION, AND ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT UNDER CYBER AND YOUTH SAFETY TO DELIVER SAFETY PRESENTATIONS AND LOCAL SCHOOLS ADDRESSING ONLINE SAFETY AND SOCIAL MEDIA USE, AND TO INVEST IN REQUIRED DATA PROTECTION SOFTWARE FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE, INFORMATION SYSTEM COMPLIANCE.

AND 16TH STREET WALKOVER TO FULLY FUND REPLACING THE STRUCTURE TO MEET MODERN SAFETY CODES AND THE PARKS AND PROGRAMING MASTER PLAN AND CONNECTIVITY TO UPDATE THE PARKS MASTER PLAN THROUGH TO 5.B [INAUDIBLE] AND COMMUNITY SPACES.

TO FINALIZE [INAUDIBLE] FOR OUR SEPTEMBER OPENING, AND TO DEVELOP INCLUSIVE, MULTI-GENERATIONAL PROGRAMING THAT INCLUDES YOUTH, ADULTS, SENIORS, VETERANS, AND ADAPTIVE THAT REFLECTS COMMUNITY INPUT.

PARK UPGRADES TO FAST TRACK THE DONER BASEBALL IMPROVEMENTS AND SPLASH PARK ENHANCEMENTS, AND TO MANAGE DOG PARK UPGRADES UNDER FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY POLICY AND RESERVE GOVERNANCE. TO CODIFY A COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICY MANUAL AND ADOPT A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET POLICY.

I'M AT 6.P PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY LAUNCH AND OPEN DATA TRANSPARENCY.

TOTAL PORTAL FOR REAL TIME SPENDING TRACKING.

I'M SORRY. SPENDING, TRACKING AND PUBLISHED INDIVIDUAL BUDGET AND BRIEF SUMMARY FOR RESIDENTS.

THIS IS THE BEST SET THAT MANY OF OUR SISTER COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA HAVE IMPLEMENTED AND UNDER GRANT AND RISK OVERSIGHT TO MAINTAIN AN AGGRESSIVE, AGGRESSIVE STANCE ON GRANT AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY AND TO ESTABLISH A FORMAL AUDIT SCHEDULE FOR GRANT COMPLIANCE.

AND FINALLY, UNDER COMMUNICATION CUSTOMER SERVICE 7.A DIGITAL TRANSPARENCY TO STREAMLINE OUR PERMITTING AND PLANNING THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE'VE GOT A BIG HEAD START ON WITH OUR ERP ROLLOUT TO LAUNCH PUBLIC FACING ONLINE DASHBOARDS AND DATA SHARING.

FOR EXAMPLE, PERMIT TURNAROUND TIMES TO ENSURE PROCESS TRANSPARENCY UNDER STRATEGIC OUTREACH TO STRENGTHEN STRENGTHEN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER FUNCTION, WHETHER THAT'S STAFF OR OUTSOURCING OR A COMBINATION THEREOF TO MANAGE SOCIAL MEDIA AND NEWSLETTERS AND PSA'S, AND TO PROVIDE TIMELY SAFETY PROJECT AND PROGRAM UPDATES.

AND FINALLY, ON THE WORKFORCE EXCELLENCE TO ESTABLISH A FORMAL EMPLOYEE TRAINING PROGRAM.

AND ALSO AND THIS IS NEW IN TERMS OF ANYTHING, WE PROPOSE TO LAUNCH A CITIZEN'S ACADEMY TO FOSTER RESIDENT UNDERSTANDING OF CITY OPERATIONS AND MAYOR. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS EXERCISE AND THANKS FOR THIS.

GREAT. THANK YOU. COMPREHENSIVE. OKAY. I GUESS GUESS.

NEXT UP, MISS LANIER. YOU DID THAT CITIZEN ACADEMY A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

[4. OVERVIEW OF NOMINAL GROUP PROCESS, SMART FRAMEWORK FOR GOAL SETTING AND URGENT/IMPORTANT MATRIX (LINDA LANIER, FACILITATOR) ]

THAT COVERS OVER THREE OR 4 OR 5 MONTHS. YOU KNOW, HIT A BUTTON BACK HERE.

YEAH, I THINK. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK IT. THANK YOU.

KEVIN, THAT WAS A GREAT REPORT. AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRIORITIES I HOPE THAT YOU'LL JUMP IN AND, AND GIVE US A REALITY ON SOME THINGS THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE IN PROCESS.

SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL DO ALL THAT. YOU BETCHA. OKAY.

OKAY. SO HELLO. GOOD EVENING. SO HAVE WE TORN OURSELVES AWAY FROM THE ARTEMIS?

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SO EXCITING. YEAH. SUCKER FOR THAT. SO AS A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, THIS IS OUR NINTH YEAR DOING THIS AND I'M LOOKING AROUND, COMMISSIONER KELLY. DO YOU WANT TO JUST STAND UP HERE AND DO IT? YES. AND. YES. AND YOU'RE AT SIX. SO I DON'T FEEL A BIG NEED TO GO INTO LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD DO SOME KIND OF PRELIMINARY THINGS OF LET'S, YOU KNOW, HOW WE WANT TO THINK THIS.

I THINK YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY THERE. SO I THINK WE CAN SAVE SOME TIME.

AND I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS JUST ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND WHAT IS A PRIORITY.

PRIORITY IS A TOPIC THAT WILL RECEIVE PARTICULAR, UNUSUAL AND SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION DURING A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 26-27 FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE REASON, OF COURSE, THAT YOU NEED TO ESTABLISH PRIORITIES IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA, BECAUSE OF THE SUNSHINE RULES THAT YOU CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS.

SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON DURING THESE PRECIOUS MOMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TOGETHER.

AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS YOU NEED TO CLEARLY COMMUNICATE TO STAFF WHAT YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO WITH THEIR TIME AND THE RESOURCES THAT YOU AFFORD TO THEM.

SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED PRIORITIES. AND HERE WE GO ON YEAR NUMBER NINE.

SO I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY GETTING ME THEIR IDEAS AND WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH THEM ONE AT A TIME.

I DO KNOW WHO SUBMITTED WHICH IDEA. SOMETIMES THERE'S TWO PEOPLE WHO HAD KIND OF THE SAME THING.

SO I SORT OF MERGED THEM TOGETHER. BUT IF IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY IN PARTICULAR ABOUT YOUR IDEA THAT YOU PROPOSED, WE, WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. SO THE FIRST ONE ACTUALLY CAME FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY SO IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WITH YOUR NINE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, MY LAST HURRAH. RIGHT, YES. YOUR LAST HURRAH.

I NEED TO START WITH YOU THAT BY DECEMBER 1ST, 2026 TO CREATE A CONTRACT FOR A DRAINAGE BASIN LEVEL SURVEY AT THE GEOLOGICAL LEVEL. NOT, NOT SO NOT ABOUT PROPERTY LOSSES, BUT MORE A BIGGER, A BIGGER LOOK AT THAT, RIGHT? IS THERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? WELL, WE'VE BEEN BATTING THAT AROUND FOR A WHILE.

SO I THOUGHT, LET'S PUT A DATE ON AT LEAST GET IN THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW? OKAY. THAT SEEMS REASONABLE. BY DECEMBER WE SHOULD HAVE A CONTRACT.

AND THEN ALL THE OTHER STORMWATER THINGS WE WANT TO DO SHOULD FLOW OUT OF THAT.

OKAY. BUT AND SO I'M JUST GOING TO JUST WANTED IT TO TO GET DOWN ON PAPER INSTEAD OF FLOATING AROUND.

OKAY. SO CAN WE COMMENT AS WE GO, PLEASE? OKAY.

I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER KELLY. I KNOW THAT SURPRISES YOU.

BUT I WOULD THINK WE COULD DO THAT SOONER THAN DECEMBER 1ST, SO I WOULD PRIORITIZE THAT FOR SOONER THAN DECEMBER 1ST FOR JUST GETTING TO CONTRACT.

BUT ON THE ISSUE OF GEOLOGICAL, WE CAN DECIDE THIS ONCE WE ACTUALLY START ENGAGING FIRMS. IT'S NOT JUST GEOLOGICAL BASED ON AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, BUT WE HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS.

LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE AREA. WHERE IT DRAINS.

OH, OH, YOU'RE SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT. YEAH. WHERE GEOGRAPHICAL THINGS INTO HOGAN'S CREEK THEN FLOWS INTO WHATEVER.

THEN WE'RE ACTUALLY ON IN SYNC ON THAT. YOU KNOW, WHO'S ON A DOOM? WHO'S NOT? YEAH. OH, OKAY. THAT TOO. YEAH. OKAY.

NEXT. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE. JUST, CONTINUE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE.

AND THAT ACTUALLY CAME FROM COMMISSIONER BOLE AND COMMISSIONER RING.

IS THERE ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? JUST, JUST A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE STORMWATER STUDY AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

SOME OF THESE PRIORITIES WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WILL BE AFFECTED BY THAT STUDY.

IN OTHER WORDS, IT WILL TELL US, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD, THE BAD I'VE.

I UNDERSTAND THE FIRST ONE. I'M WORRIED THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THE THE GUY OR GAL THAT DOES THE STORMWATER STUDY MAY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE WEAVE THAT IN.

SURE. AND YOUR PROCESS. BECAUSE IT STARTS SO FAR AHEAD AND BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE THINGS LIKE STUDIES AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PACE TO THAT. IT'S KIND OF AN ITERATIVE PROCESS, ISN'T IT? IT SORT OF INFORMS ITSELF AS IT MOVES ALONG. SO THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE PART OF THAT, UTILIZE A ROW.

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SO WE STARTED IN, IN 2025 AND WITH THOSE INCENTIVES.

SO ONE TO UTILIZE THE RIGHT OF WAY TO CREATE MORE DRAINAGE DITCHES, CURRENT DITCH CLEANING CYCLE.

WE PUT THAT ON A CYCLE LIKE WE DO WITH ROADS CLEANING OUT THE RETENTION PONDS, INCENTIVES.

SO ALL OF THESE COME UNDERNEATH THAT BIG BULLET, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

OKAY, LET ME ADJUST THAT THEN. SO, SO THEY'RE NOT ALL SEPARATE, MAYBE JUST COMMAS REALLY, OR LIKE A LIST. SO YOU COULD DO A COLON AND THEN COMMA.

YEAH, UTILIZE THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES OF PRIORITIZING THAT STORMWATER DRAINAGE THAT WE CAN DO OKAY IN HOUSE.

SO THE VOTING WOULD HAPPEN AT THIS LEVEL RATHER THAN FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.

RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO JUST MAKE THAT THE BIG HYPHEN RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN I'LL REMIND YOU ALL WHEN YOU'RE VOTING THAT YOU WOULD BE VOTING FOR THIS RATHER THAN THESE INDIVIDUAL THINGS.

JUST A QUESTION, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN THROUGH IT, BUT ARE WE GOING TO VOTE ON SPECIFIC? YEAH, I SEE WE'VE ONLY GOT GREEN THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE NO, YOU YOU EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT COLOR.

OH OKAY, I GOT IT. SO WE'RE GOING THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

OKAY. YEAH. JUST JUST VOTES. TEN VOTES. YEAH.

YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION. AND LIKE I SAID, I KNOW CANDACE HAS BEEN THERE.

I WAS THINKING ON A MORE PRAGMATIC LEVEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP WITH SOME PRIORITIES, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE I THINK THE CONNECTION AND WE FOUND THIS OUT THIS YEAR IS THOSE PRIORITIES SHOULD MATCH WHAT WE AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO TAKE OUR PRIORITIES AND PUT.

OH, THAT'S A ONE. THAT'S A TWO. THAT'S A THREE AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

SO AS WE SAW THIS YEAR, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WANTED THAT WEREN'T IN THE BUDGET, BUT THEY WERE ON OUR PRIORITY LIST.

I THINK EVERYBODY CAN POINT FIVE DOTS. BUT THEY WEREN'T RIGHT.

THEY WERE FIVE DOTS. SO, YOU KNOW, HEY, IF WE KEEP THE MILLAGE RATE THE SAME, I GET IT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, YOU KNOW, AS THOSE MATCH UP TO THE YEAH, THE BUDGET.

AND ALSO HERE'S ANOTHER KIND OF WEIRD IDEA WHEN WE GET WHEN WE GET A AGENDA AND WE'VE GOT RESOLUTIONS AND, AND, AND OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE THAT WAS ON THE PRIORITY LIST, LIKE A LITTLE ONE OR A LITTLE TWO? I KNOW, FAR FETCHED, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD GIVE US A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE VOTE IN REAL TIME AND WE MAKE DECISIONS IN REAL TIME, SOMETIMES HALFWAY OR THREE QUARTERS OF THE YEAR.

I'M THINKING, MAN, WASN'T THAT ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD PUT ON THE LIST? IT'S JUST A BIGGER PERSPECTIVE. YEAH. YOUR PRIORITIES USED TO BE LAMINATED AND AT YOUR DESK.

ARE THEY STILL THIS YEAR? OKAY. I HAVE ALL THE OLD ONES UP THERE.

BACK TO THE ONE PAGER. YEAH, BUT I'M GUILTY OF NOT LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, AND JUST LOOKING. OKAY.

YEAH. SO YOU'RE RIGHT. THE WHOLE FULL CIRCLE THING.

THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT TONIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT.

THIS IS HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL CARRY THROUGH FOR THE YEAR AND USE IT AS YOUR TEMPLATE.

TO BRUCE'S POINT, HOW FAR? SO THIS IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF PRIORITY SETTING.

HOW FAR DO WE GET JUST TO REMIND US, DO WE GET BEFORE WE FINALIZE IT? DO WE. HOW MANY MONTHS? WELL, 30 DAYS COME COME TO YOU UNLESS YOU GUIDE US DIFFERENTLY NEXT MONTH WITH A RESOLUTION AND AND AND THESE PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

SO, OKAY, SO WE'LL FINALIZE THE, THE PRIORITIES IN 30 DAYS OR SO, BUT I'M REFERRING BACK TO THE MEETING WHERE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING OVER THE BUDGET AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO THE BRASS TACKS ON THINGS AND WE, WE CUT SOME THINGS. WE ADD SOME THINGS. HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD IS THAT? YES, SO WE HAVE OUR WORKSHOPS. YEAH. IN IN JULY.

SUMMER. SO WE'LL, WE'LL FINISH THE WORKSHOPS BY AUGUST IN ADVANCE OF THE TWO MEETINGS IN SEPTEMBER WHERE YOU'LL APPROVE A BUDGET AND A MILLAGE RATE.

YEAH. SO THESE WILL BE AT YOUR THIS WILL BE AT YOUR SIDE.

THIS DOCUMENT GUIDING ALL OF YOUR CONVERSATIONS.

IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, WE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PASSED.

SO THINGS DO CHANGE. AND BRUCE DOESN'T WANT US TO CHANGE OUR MIND, BUT SOME THINGS DO.

SOME THINGS ARE FLUID. AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE MISS, RIGHT? WHERE WE FIVE DOTS AND DIDN'T DIDN'T EVEN GET ADDRESSED IN IN THE MONEY SETTING.

OKAY. AND IN FAIRNESS TO DRAW, I THINK A MORE COMPLETE PICTURE AFTER THIS EXERCISE, AFTER MAY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF CITIZEN INPUT, RIGHT? THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO YEAH. YES, IT THIS THIS THIS IS PART OF THE I MEAN, IT'S THE DOCUMENT ITSELF ISN'T FLUID, BUT YOUR DECISIONS ARE. THIS JUST HELPS INFORM THEM.

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BUT THAT'S WHY YOU ARE ALL ELECTED IS TO MAKE WISE DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS.

ALRIGHT. THE LAST ONE ON THIS PAGE IS COMPLETE A STORMWATER STUDY AND UPDATE THE CODE FOR RESIDENTIAL.

I ASSUME THAT'S RESIDENTIAL. THAT WAS THAT WAS YOU MAYOR.

YEAH. THE BUILDING CODES. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, WE COULD DECIDE TO ADDRESS COMMERCIAL AS WELL, BUT MY STATEMENT WAS RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. AND SO THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE AT THE TOP BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHEN TO GET THE STUDY DONE, BUT I WANT, I WANT US TO DRIVE HARD TO STAND BEFORE OUR CITIZENS IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND UPDATE CODE. YOU WANT TO PUT A DATE ON THAT? I WANT IT WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR.

YEAH. SO THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 30TH. OKAY, 2027.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE MORE.

THANK YOU. IMPROVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, MOVE THE BURDEN AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

[5. REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF COMMISSION MEMBER PRIORITIES WITHIN THESE PRIORITY AREAS (LINDA LANIER/GROUP) ]

SO IF I CAN ASK, DO YOU MEAN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PRIORITIZE ELIMINATING ON SITE STORAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR TO MOVE THE BURDEN AWAY BY FOCUSING EQUALLY ON CITY INFRASTRUCTURE TO MOVE SOME OF THE BURDEN AWAY? WOW. YEAH. SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CLARIFY THIS A LITTLE BIT? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? I THINK IF YOU WERE GOING TO CLARIFY IT FOR VOTING PURPOSES, IT'S TO PUT A STRONGER FOCUS ON CITY INFRASTRUCTURE. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YES. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THINGS ALREADY IN CIP THAT LEND THAT LEND THEMSELVES TO THAT.

I WAS AT A PICNIC LAST NIGHT WITH A RESIDENT OF AQUATIC GARDENS WHO IS DELIGHTED.

YEAH, THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT ONE IS PROPERTY SLASH INFRASTRUCTURE. EXCELLENT.

BY THE WAY, I FEEL THAT I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING THAT IF YOU SEE MISSPELLED WORDS HERE.

IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL, BUT WHEN I'M DOING THIS AND WHEN I'M QUITE FRANKLY SPELLING THESE MARKERS SEVERAL HOURS, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW TO SPELL SOMETHING. SO IF YOU SEE ANYTHING, JUST PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GRACE OVER THAT ONE.

ALRIGHT. ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. COMMISSIONER BOLE YOU PUT BEACH MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP.

WAS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFIC? WELL, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW THE THING.

LOOK AT WHAT EVERY 3 OR 4 YEARS IS TO THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT ALONG WITH THE PLANTS, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE QUALITIES OF, OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

YEAH. AND SO I KIND OF GROUP THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE MARSH SIDE ALSO, BUT SOMETIMES I DON'T THINK WE TALK ENOUGH ABOUT THE BEACH MAINTENANCE AND WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO SEE. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANY MORE WORDS TO THIS OR DOES EVERYBODY KIND OF GET THAT? JUST A, YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THE FUNDING FOR THE YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE PLANTS.

THAT. THE SEA OATS. YEAH. LOSING IT. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP A FOCUS ON THAT.

I'M GOING TO JUST WRITE SEA OATS HERE. OKAY. SECOND ONE IS MAYOR, DEVELOP OR AND PASS A HERITAGE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE. RIGHT? VERY SPECIFIC. I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE OVERALL TREE CANOPY.

I SIMPLY WANT TO FOCUS ON HERITAGE TREES AND PASSING SOMETHING THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN REGULAR ORDINANCE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ASK ABOUT. MAYOR YOU SAYING THAT THERE'LL BE JUST HIGHER MITIGATION FEES TO TAKE OUT? I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT THAT SMART. I JUST KNOW THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GROW A 250 YEAR OLD TREE.

YEAH, IT TAKES 250 YEARS. YES IT DOES. SO THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENT THAN A TREE THAT WAS PLANTED 25 YEARS AGO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER RING. YOU SAID TREE CANOPY PROTECTION.

SO YOU SAW THAT AS SORT OF A MORE OVERARCHING ISSUE.

SO THIS WAS IN I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN YOU GOT MY EMAIL, IT IT'S, IT'S BULLETED UNDER.

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AND THIS WAS MY IDEA ON HOW TO DO JUST THAT WORK WITH THE NON NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION TO PRESERVE CANOPY THROUGH LAND PROCUREMENT, DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST DOES.

AND MY THOUGHTS WERE OVER BY WEST FOURTH STREET THERE WAS THAT LARGE OAK TREE OVER 200 YEARS OLD THAT HAD WE HAD KNOWN, HAD THE CITY HAD KNOWN.

PERHAPS WE COULD HAVE PURCHASED IT SOMEHOW AND MADE IT PART OF THE PARK.

THAT'S RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS TIED VIEWS PRESERVE.

HAD WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? WE COULD HAVE SAVED THAT TREE.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T GO BACKWARDS. THIS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT SAVANNAH DOES.

SO THE CITY OF SAVANNAH WORKS ALONGSIDE A NONPROFIT TO PROTECT THEIR TREE CANOPY.

AND IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED THROUGH THIS, THE STREETS OF SAVANNAH, AS BUSY AS A TOWN AS IT IS, IT'S ABLE TO PRESERVE ITS TREE CANOPY THROUGH OPEN GREEN SPACES.

AND THEY DO THIS WITH THE HELP OF A NONPROFIT SO THAT SO THE TWO GO TOGETHER.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC NONPROFIT THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF.

BUT SOMETHING LIKE. THERE IS. LAND TRUST. THERE IS ONE.

AND YOU SHE'S PRESENTED TO ALL OF US. HER NAME IS HOLLY WATERS.

AND I THINK IT'S FRIENDS. YES. COMMUNITY KEEPERS.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT.

OKAY. SO THEN WE'D GO DOWN TO THIS IS COMMISSIONER KELLY DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN TO PRESERVE AND SUSTAIN THE COASTAL FOREST ECOSYSTEM.

SO ARE YOU TALKING SPECIFIC A SPECIFIC AREA OF ATLANTIC BEACH OR THE WHOLE COASTAL? I MEAN, I THINK I'VE HEARD IT DESCRIBED AS COASTAL FOREST THOUGH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT MASTER PLANS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE AND WE'VE GOT BITS AND PIECES.

SO PERHAPS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON MAKING. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RING, MARSH SHORELINE PROTECTION.

AND THERE ARE WHAT IS THERE, TWO STUDIES RIGHT NOW AND GRANTS AND I MISSED I MISSED THE PRESENTATION THAT NO, I, I GOT TO HEAR IT, BUT I'LL I'M EXCITED TO I DID, I DIDN'T ZOOM IN DURING IT, BUT I DID WATCH THE RECORDING AFTERWARDS THAT STEVE SWANN WAS ABLE TO GET THAT GRANT THAT WOULD HELP OUR SHORELINE.

SO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT ARE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

I BELIEVE ONE IS THE OYSTERS, ANOTHER POSSIBLY MANGROVES, BUT IT STARTS WITH THE STUDY.

SO ALL I COULD POSSIBLY DO TO SUPPORT THAT EFFORT IN THE MARSH SHORELINE.

IT'S NOT JUST BEACH RENOURISHMENT THAT IS NECESSARY AS WE ARE DOING DUNE RENOURISHMENT AND THE SEA OATS WERE LOSING GROUND LITERALLY FROM BOTH ENDS. AND THE INTRACOASTAL SIDE AND OUR BARRIER ISLAND NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED JUST AS MUCH.

SO MAYOR, YOU HAD EXECUTE ON TWO MARSH FRONT ENVIRONMENT PROJECTS.

SAME THING. OKAY. YEAH. THERE'S TWO THAT MR. SWANN IS.

WELL, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW.

ACTUALLY, I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT IT TODAY. MIGHT BE OLD NEWS ON THE MANGROVES, BECAUSE THIS RECENT FREEZE MAY HAVE SET US BACK 30 YEARS.

SO WE'LL SEE ON THAT. BUT CERTAINLY THE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ENGAGE ON TWO PROJECTS, AND WE KNOW THE ONE THAT COMMISSIONER RING MENTIONED ABOUT THE THE OYSTERS IS SOMETHING THAT MR. SWANN IS ALSO ENGAGED ON AND ALREADY HAS IT TEED UP FOR, FOR A PILOT.

SO YEAH, I THINK. CAN I PUT THESE TWO TOGETHER? YES. YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. TOGETHER. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'LL KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, YOU JUST VOTE FOR, PUT ONE DOT.

CREATE, AND THIS IS FROM COMMISSIONER GRANT, CREATE INCENTIVES FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO SELL HERITAGE TREES TO CITY OR PRIVATE ENTITIES FOR THEIR PRESERVATION EFFORTS. SO YES. SO YEAH.

THIS ONE. YEAH. OKAY. SO I THINK MY NOTE WAS REFERRED TO OUR PRIVATE ENTITIES.

YEAH. SO SO I MEAN, THOSE WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE THE SAME.

OKAY. SO I, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

DOES THAT MEAN. SO THE WHOLE 50 BY 100 FOOT LOT THAT HAS THE TREE ON IT.

YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING A DIFFERENT WAY.

JESSICA SAID, I'M TRYING TO GET SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW CREATE INCENTIVES TO HAVE PRIVATE

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I'M NOT THERE YET. OKAY, SO THEN I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK I MISINTERPRETED IT BECAUSE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT AN ORGANIZATION THAT MIGHT SELL, THAT MIGHT PURCHASE A 200 YEAR OLD TREE.

AS IT ESSENTIALLY CARVED OFF FROM THE PROPERTY AND THAT TREE IS PROTECTED OR NO, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS A YEAH, THAT THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. WHAT MY THOUGHT WAS IF A PRIVATE IF A PRIVATE SELLER WAS LOOKING TO SELL AND WILLING TO SELL AT A LESS LESSER RATE, BUT KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED AND PRESERVED AS A PUBLIC SPACE THAT THEY WOULD BE.

AND I LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE SOME WAY TO CENTRALIZE IT VERSUS SELLING IT TO A DEVELOPER WHO'S GOING TO KNOCK IT DOWN AND BUILD, YOU KNOW, SIDE TO SIDE. OKAY. SO WHEN YOU'RE VOTING.

LET'S SEE, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS. OKAY, SO LET'S PUT THIS AS ONE AND THIS AS TWO.

AND THESE ARE ALL PART OF THIS. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE, YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THIS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THESE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO YES, BUT I, I THINK I'M NOT OUT OF TURN TO TALK WHILE WE'RE ON THE SUBJECT.

SO THIS IS CHAPTER 23. THIS IS CHAPTER 20. PARDON? YES. YEAH. THIS CHAPTER 23. SO WHEN WE GET DONE WITH ALL THESE CHARTS, WE GOT TEN OF THESE.

OKAY. THAT IS A SUBSET OF THE OVERARCHING NEED TO REVIEW CHAPTER 23 AND USE THIS COLLECTIVE BODY TO LEGISLATE CHANGES BASED ON OUR FEEDBACK FROM OUR CITIZENS AND ANY OTHER SOURCE, WHETHER WE HIRE A FIRM TO DO SOMETHING OR NOT.

SO I DON'T SEE PUTTING MY BUTTON ON THAT BY ITSELF BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

WELL, WHAT WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUR BUTTON ON IS OVERHAULING CHAPTER 23.

BUT WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT. WELL, I KNOW, BUT SO LIKE, I WOULDN'T, I WOULD PUT MY BUTTON ON A NEW THING.

YEAH. OKAY. THEN YOU, THEN YOU CAN USE YOUR BUTTON.

I'M JUST SAYING, BUT WE'LL FINISH THE FLIP CHART AND THEN SEE HOW FAR YOUR TEN DOTS GO.

YEAH. OH, GOOD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT THE REASON I AGREE WITH YOU 100%, THE REASON I INCLUDED THIS IS POTENTIALLY CREATING A, A, SOME SORT OF FUND TO PARTNER WITH AN NPO TO PURCHASE LAND, WHICH IS A LOT DIFFERENT, I THINK, FROM SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR CHAPTER 23.

YEAH. THAT'S WHY IT'S A MONETARY, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATION.

AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT SO IT WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT.

AND I HEAR YOU BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW WE AS A CITY, WILL CREATE A FUND THAT CAN BUY MORE THAN A TREE OR TWO, IF EVEN THAT. BECAUSE THE LOT, LIKE THE LOT THAT YOU MENTIONED ON ON FOURTH STREET, THAT LOT PROBABLY SOLD FOR 7 OR $800,000. OKAY. SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE A TREE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT IS I DON'T WANT TO GET THAT GRANULAR NOW BECAUSE WHAT I WANT, THIS IS ME PERSONALLY, I WANT THE TREE STUDY.

AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER WE HAVE 70, 700 OR 7000 OF THESE OLDER TREES THAT I'M REFERRING TO AS THE HERITAGE TREES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE. ONCE WE KNOW OUR INVENTORY, THEN YOU CAN START TO ALIGN WITH WHATEVER A NONPROFIT MIGHT WANT TO DO AND SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE A DENT IN THE OPPORTUNITY. BUT TO VOTE ON THAT TODAY, I THINK WOULD BE PREMATURE.

I WOULD JUST DISAGREE ONLY BECAUSE I THINK WE CAN ATTACK THIS AT MORE THAN ONE ANGLE.

SO ONE IS THROUGH CHAPTER 23, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR.

THAT'S PART OF IT, WHICH STARTS WITH THE SURVEY.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE LOST, WE LOST THAT BIG TREE ON FOURTH STREET AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING.

AND ALL OF DUTTON, WHAT YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU SEE DUTTON OR SILVA PRESERVE IS THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN WE OBVIOUSLY PURCHASED AND YEAH, I'M JUST SAYING YOU WOULD NEED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO AFFECT ANYTHING VISIBLE RIGHT FROM YOUR POINT OF

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IT WOULD COME FROM AN NPO. AND THERE MAY VERY WELL BE CITIZENS WHO ARE WILLING, JUST LIKE NORTH FLORIDA LAND TRUST, TO DONATE THESE PROPERTIES TO THE CITY. POSSIBLE.

IT'S DUTTON ISLAND IS THERE FOR THAT REASON. OKAY.

DO YOU WANT. ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH THE WAY? OKAY. QUICK QUESTION. SURE. YOU KNOW, AS WE DID THE MATH AND THE MAYOR, YOU TALKED ABOUT TEN. DID YOU COUNT HOW MANY TOTAL THERE ARE? I'M JUST DOING THIS IN MY HEAD. NO. OKAY. NO. AND THE REASON THAT THERE'S ONLY TEN IS AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS EVERY YEAR.

NOBODY LIKES THIS, BUT IT'S FORCED CHOICE, RIGHT? OKAY. SO IT FORCES YOU TO PRIORITIZE. IT'S LIKE I HAVE THIS MUCH MONEY.

AM I GOING TO GO ON HOLIDAY OR AM I GOING TO BUY A REFRIGERATOR? YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES IN OUR LIVES AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE CHOICES TOO.

YEAH. OKAY. PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES. LET'S SEE.

COMMISSIONER BOLE. YOU HAD A PRIORITY FOR LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE.

CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING? YEAH, IT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.

AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY NEED TO LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT NEPTUNE AND UNDERSTAND.

AND THEN SERIOUSLY AND UNDERSTAND, I ANYWAY, SO.

BUT I WANT TO KNOW, ARE YOU ASKING THAT WE MOVE UP SOME OF OUR CIP ITEMS SOONER? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO SAY LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE? WELL, LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE TO ME IS, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW.

NEW ITEMS. CITY ENGINEER AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE FUND WHAT'S COMING UP SOONEST.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME LINKS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO FAIL, RIGHT? AND, AND I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND IF WE GIVE, IF WE MAKE THAT A PRIORITY AND THEN WE INSTRUCT THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC UTILITIES OR PUBLIC WORKS TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT. WHAT, HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT THEY DID WHAT WE WANTED? WHAT, WHAT IS THE THING THAT WOULD TELL US THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL ON THAT? WELL, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S INFORMATION OUT. I, I GO BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER. I'M NOT SMART ENOUGH TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE HIM COME UP AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER SEEN THIS.

WHAT ARE OUR WEAK POINTS? OKAY, WHAT? WHAT ARE WHEN WE'RE STRESSED FOR THE HURRICANE OR ANOTHER EVENT OR JUST, YOU KNOW INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS WATER, SEWER.

WHAT'S THE WEAKEST POINT? AND MAKE SURE WE PRIORITIZE THAT.

MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S MORE OF A, A THEME THAN IT IS A SPECIFIC DOLLAR SPEND.

OKAY. WE DO HAVE THAT. THE VULNERABLE, THE VULNERABILITY STUDY, IT GAVE US THE RED, GREEN AND YELLOW POINTS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU JUST WANT THIS TO STAY ON THE RADAR.

YOU DON'T EVER WANT US TO NOT. I MEAN, THAT IS THE JOB OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

YEAH, THE SAME THING WITH ROADS AND SIDEWALKS.

YEAH, YEAH. COMMISSIONER KELLY, YOU HAVE EVALUATE THE NEED FOR A RATE STUDY FOR SEWER, WATER AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

I REALIZED THAT I COULD PROBABLY HAVE PUT IN PARKS AND PROGRAMING, BUT IT WAS ALL TOGETHER.

AND TO ALIGN THOSE COST OR THOSE FEES WITH THE MAINTENANCE COSTS.

AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE, DONE THAT COMPREHENSIVELY IN RECENT, WITHIN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, I THINK DIDN'T, DIDN'T THE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, DID THEY DO THAT A COUPLE? IF THEY DID, THEY DIDN'T SHARE IT WITH US. THEY TRIED TO DO IT AND THEY JUST DIDN'T.

THAT WAS IT. OKAY, ALRIGHT, OKAY. COMMISSIONER RING, CHANGE THE WAY TO REPAVE ROADS, DITCHES AND CURBS, NEW ROAD PROJECTS.

SO THIS WAS. I THINK IT WAS QUESTION. THIS WAS WHEN THIS WENT WITH MY STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE.

SO AS WE ARE REPAVING ROADS AND HAVING PUTTING IN NEW CURBS TO PRIORITIZE STORM WATER MOVEMENT DOWN THE PATH, SO THIS THIS BELONGED WITH THE OTHER SIDE AND, AND THE BULLETED SECTION.

SO WHERE I DID THE COLON AND BULLETED THIS IS THE WAY SORT OF COMMAS NEXT TO IT, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

FOR EXAMPLE STANLEY ROAD, THAT WHOLE ROAD WAS REPAVED WITH STORMWATER IN MIND.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS COMMISSIONER GRANT, EXPLORE WAYS TO REDUCE PARTICLE OUTPUT FROM THE WATER PLANT.

I KNOW I RAISED YEAH, THAT'S FINE HERE, BUT SO SAY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING.

YEAH, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOT OF STEPS AND MEASURES TO DO THAT BASED ON RECENT OPPORTUNITIES WE'VE HAD OVER THERE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE HAVE WE REACHED THE END OF THAT IMPROVEMENT OR IS THERE OTHER WAYS TO IMPROVE THAT?

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COME UP WITH A PLAN TO UPGRADE WATER PUMP STATIONS SO THAT THERE IS MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS AS OPPOSED TO.

AGAIN, I THINK WE, I THINK WE, WE DEALING WITH THE 20TH STREET STATION AND, AND ALL THE BACK AND FORTH THAT WE'VE SEEN ON THAT.

I THINK IF WE HAD LIKE A, YOU KNOW, SORT OF A TRANSPARENT PLAN ON HOW TO HANDLE THINGS WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT THOSE PUMPS TO RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THOSE PUMPS HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS KIND OF IRONED OUT AND PLANNED.

AND IF IT, YOU KNOW, COST EXTRA MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIDE THEM BETTER OR PREPARE THEM, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY TO, TO MINIMIZE THEIR IMPACT TO THE CITIZENS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING INSTEAD OF HAVING LIKE, WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THAT 20TH STREET STATION GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH RESIDENTS.

IT'S JUST LIKE, SO IF WE'D HAVE BEEN UP, IF WE COULD HAVE HAD A PLAN AND SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, FEEL LIKE WE COULD HAVE, IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE BETTER. MAY I SUGGEST A CHANGE TO PLAN TO UPGRADE LIFT STATION, LIFT STATIONS WITH MINIMAL IMPACT? BECAUSE LIFT STATIONS, THESE ARE LIFT STATIONS FOR SANITARY SEWER WATER.

YEAH, YEAH. NO, I. LIFT STATION. YEAH. NO, I.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT.

OH WELL THE STATIONS, LIFT STATIONS. OKAY. YEAH.

ALRIGHT. GOT IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER IDEAS? IF NOT JUST ONE? YOU KNOW, I KNOW MINE WAS KIND OF AN OVERARCHING BIG PICTURE THING, BUT SOMETIMES I'VE SEEN US KIND OF GO DOWN A ROAD AND WE'VE GOT SMALLER ISSUES, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A MACRO LOOK SOMETIMES AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT LIFT STATION OR YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE BUILD, IT MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, THAT SOME CITIZENS MAY NOT LIKE.

I THINK SOMETIMES WE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE 200 OTHER FAMILIES THAT THAT AFFECTS, ESPECIALLY IN HURRICANE SEASON.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S YEAH, THERE'S STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR CITIZENS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE 200 PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THIS ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT ISSUE. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER GRANT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

WHEN WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ONE, IS IT ABOUT THE LIFT STATION SO MUCH, OR IS IT A POLICY OR PLAN IN PLACE FOR UPDATING OUR CITIZENS ON PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, FROM COMMUNICATIONS TO WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROJECT AND THAT IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE, OR IS IT JUST DESIGNATED FOR LIFT STATIONS IN GENERAL? WELL, WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ADDRESSING THE LIFT STATIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY, WE'RE DOING THINGS WITHOUT PERMITTING. I THINK IF YOU DO THAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THAT'S NOT VERY TRANSPARENT. I DON'T THINK SO. WE SHOULD PERMIT THESE THINGS EVEN THOUGH WE'RE MAYBE NOT REQUIRED TO.

THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WENT ON WITH THIS WITH THIS LIFT STATION.

SO I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENT BROUGHT UP SOME GOOD POINTS.

AND I THINK IF WE CAN JUST GET OUT IN FRONT OF ALL THAT AND HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A PLAN AND POLICY WITH REGARDS TO FUTURE PUMP STATIONS, THE KIND OF ACCOUNTS FOR AS MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN THINK OF.

THEN WITHIN REASON THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN.

SO WOULD THAT BE UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES OR WOULD IT BE UNDER THE COMMUNICATIONS? NO, I THINK IT'S STILL, IT'S, IT'S HOW YOU DO THE WORK.

RIGHT? YEAH. HOW TO DO IT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. KEVIN HAS GONE ALONG. HAVE THERE. HAVE IT.

HAVE THERE BEEN THINGS THAT YOU THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLARIFIED OR ADDED? PARTICULARLY A MATTER OF LIKE THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN, WHERE WE MAY BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE MAY WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN PAST PUTTING THE SCOPE TOGETHER AND HIRING A FIRM.

I THINK THAT IN CASES WHERE IF YOU ALL HAVE IDENTIFIED FIVE 26-27 PRIORITY AND WE'VE HAD THE THE GOOD FORTUNE TO COMPLETE IT ALREADY BEFORE THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINS.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD THING. THERE'S THAT THAT COULD THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THAT THAT IS THE CASE, WE EXPECT TO HAVE A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN CONTRACT SIGNED BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHERE UNDER IN THIS CATEGORY, A LOT OF THE ITEMS WERE ACTUALLY UNDER STORMWATER MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION VERSUS PLANNING. AND SO THAT'S THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN WILL BE.

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THAT'S RIGHT. SO EASILY THAT COULD BE COMPLETED WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR AT LEAST FUNDING WISE.

YEAH. THAT'S A FEW OTHER THINGS. YES. AND ANOTHER IS TREE CANOPY LEGISLATION.

I THINK THAT BEFORE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BEGINS, WE WILL HAVE CROSSED THAT BRIDGE.

I THINK WE HAVE LEGISLATION IN PLACE IF THAT SO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER, WHETHER YOU ALL THINK, OKAY, THAT'S NOT A WAY TO SPEND ONE OF MY TEN DOTS BECAUSE REALLY MOST LIKELY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

AND THAT'S ALSO IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WITH MONEY.

YEAH. I WAS TALKING PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE LEGISLATION PART.

OF US LEGISLATING? OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD MARK THOSE SO PEOPLE DON'T WASTE A DOT.

WOULD THAT WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? IF THE COMMISSION SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IF I RECAP, THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY IN MOTION, IF THEY DON'T GET A DOT ON THEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT. YES. THEY'RE THERE.

I WILL SAY THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS. THERE'S NO WAY TO KNOW WHETHER IT'LL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT I JUST IDENTIFIED.

IF YOU'D LIKE, I'LL DO MY EXERCISE. OKAY. AND WE'LL SEE.

SO IF YOU COULD PUT MAYBE A BLUE CHECK BY ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THOSE THINGS AND THEN YOU ALL WILL KNOW, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT A DOT THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK PART OF THE COST, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND KEVIN'S POINT.

BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PRIORITIZE THINGS, WE ALSO PRIORITIZE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S TIME AND ENERGY, LIKE CHAPTER 23. SOME OF THESE THINGS. SO BY PRIORITIZING THEM, WE WANT TO PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT OF STAFF RIGHT TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN. SO SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, I MAY PUT A GREEN DOT THERE JUST TO PRIORITIZE THE EFFORT AND TO FOLLOW THROUGH.

LIKE MY FRIEND COMMISSIONER GRANT SAID, THINGS CHANGE AND THERE ARE ISSUES AND BUDGETS CHANGE.

YEAH. IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE THE UPDATE CODE COMPONENT OF THE MAYOR'S SUGGESTION HERE THAT, THAT, THAT IS, THAT WOULD BE IN THE, THAT KIND OF BIFURCATED FROM ADOPTING A STUDY, YOU KNOW, YES. HAVING A STUDY. SO THIS, THIS IS, THIS BONFIRE UPDATE CODE IS ITS OWN ITEM INDEPENDENT OF COMPLETE.

YOU WANT TO MODIFY THAT, THEN STRIKE THROUGH THE FIRST PART OR YES.

YEAH. YES. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE.

YEAH. IS THERE ANY OTHER ONE THAT YOU WANT TO? I THINK THERE WILL BE 1 OR 2. OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN STILL GO BACK OVER THIS. YEAH. OKAY. NEXT ONE, PUBLIC SAFETY.

ONE, AND YOU HEARD THIS WELL, NOT SPECIFICALLY INSTALL NEW STREET LIGHTS AT TOWN CENTER.

RIGHT. THAT'S FINE. AND YEAH, AND THAT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE $100,000 IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR FOR DOING THAT.

OKAY. BUT WE ARE NOT MOVING. OKAY. AND I'M SORRY, I'M NOT PICKING ON INTERIM CITY MANAGER HOGENCAMP, BUT THAT IS IS STALLED. OKAY. BUT SO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO INJECT A LITTLE ENERGY IN THAT, RIGHT? I WANT IT TO GET DONE. WE'VE BEEN TRYING AS A X BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY GUY.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING THAT FOR. SO IT ALWAYS WASN'T ATLANTIC BEACH.

IT WAS ALSO NEPTUNE. YEAH. AND BACK AND FORTH.

AND WE I THINK KEVIN REMEMBERS THIS. WE'VE SAT IN OUR PAST TWO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND DISCUSS THIS VERY THING.

YEAH, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO DO IT, GO AHEAD.

SO I HAVE A MANDATE TO GET THIS DONE. AND WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE INTERNAL DISCUSSION.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE ON AT THE SAME TABLE WITH THE CITY OF NEPTUNE BEACH AND BEACHES, TOWN CENTER THAT FALLS INTO THE CATEGORY OF.

YEAH. I THINK WE WILL HAVE CHECKED THAT BOX BY THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT.

WELL, NO. YES. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. IF WE CAN SAVE AND USE MY DOT SOMEWHERE ELSE, THEN I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

BUT ALSO REMEMBER, WE JUST HAD THIS LAST MEETING.

SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SHOULD GO TO THE BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT OUR NEW RESTAURANT. I'M TALKING ABOUT PARKING, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

AND KEVIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO THERE'S FUNDING THAT SHOULD BE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.

WELL AGREED. YEAH. WHAT ARE WE TALKING JEA ABOUT? ABOUT BUYING THE THE STREET LIGHTS. YES. WITHOUT GETTING THE FANCIEST ONES, THAT IS.

I MEAN, THERE'S ALL BEEN IN THERE. YEAH. IT IS A VERY IT'S A THREE WAY DISCUSSION.

IT'S NOT JUST US. OKAY. NEXT ONE IS MAYOR, CRAFT E-BIKE 2.0 LEGISLATION.

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MAYBE MULTIPLE, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE THAT DONE IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT I PUT IT ON THERE BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T PUT IT ON AS A PRIORITY WHEN WE CREATED THIS CURRENT YEAR'S PRIORITY.

OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST A QUESTION. AND I KNOW JESSICA AND I WERE AT THE IT WAS A BIG TOPIC AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, STATE OF FLORIDA'S HOLDING US BACK ON SOME OF THAT LEGISLATION.

RIGHT. CAN'T BE MORE. THEY JUST GAVE US NEW LEGISLATION.

I AGREE, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE. I'M FOR THIS.

OKAY. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I JUST KNOW. BUT I HEAR YOU.

BUT WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, AT LEAST FROM MY CHAIR, I CALLED FOR NOT OVERREACHING ON THE FIRST PASS, AND WE REMOVED A REQUEST BY MANY THAT WANTED LEGISLATION ON THE BEACH, AND WE REMOVED THAT THERE WITH OR WITHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA LEGISLATING. WE COULD DO THAT TODAY IF WE SO CHOSE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'VE NOW HAD ENOUGH TIME ON E-BIKE 1.0 TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP AND DISCUSS WHAT MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD OR DELETE FROM OUR ORIGINAL LEGISLATION.

I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A YEARLY UPDATE FOR AT LEAST A FEW YEARS, BECAUSE IT'S A CONSTANTLY EVOLVING ISSUE.

AND ALSO THE THE FREQUENCY OF UPDATING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WOULD SHOW THE CITIZENS THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL WITH CITIZENS AND, AND DOESN'T MEAN EVERY CITIZEN OUT THERE WANTS MORE REDUCTION OF RIGHTS.

SOME WANT US TO BACK OFF AND LET IT BE. BUT I THINK OUR CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD SHOULD COME OUT AND SHOW US THE SPECTRUM THAT WE.

BECAUSE BECAUSE WE HEAR, RIGHT? OF WHAT, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US AS A CITY TO DO? YEAH. SO I, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO PUT A DOT BY THAT ONE.

BUT BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE TWO POINTS.

AGREED. COMMISSIONER KELLY, REQUEST A TRAFFIC STUDY BY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FOR SHERRY DRIVE AND ATLANTIC BEACH OR ATLANTIC BOULEVARD INTERSECTION. SO THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT INTERSECTION.

NO. THAT ACTUALLY WOULD BE DONE BY FDOT. OKAY.

CONSIDER THAT DONE. I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE.

OKAY. NEXT PRIORITY. I ALWAYS GO AROUND BECAUSE IT'S TOO IT'S TOO AWFUL.

IT'S A MESS, ISN'T IT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S BEEN DONE? [INAUDIBLE], THOUGH. OH, THE REQUEST IS DONE.

YES. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S. WELL, I WILL, JUST FOR CLARITY.

I WILL MAKE THIS FDOT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO WASTE A DOT ON BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF.

YEAH, THAT'S MY THOUGHT. THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S THIS IS ALSO COMMISSIONER KELLY INVESTIGATE CIRCUIT TRAM, NAVY GOLF CART SLASH SLASH SLASH TRANSPORTATION AROUND TOWN CENTER DURING PEAK HOURS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN PARK A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OUT, YOU KNOW, SAFELY AND, AND RIDE TO WHEREVER THEY WANT.

WE USED TO USE BEACH BUGGY FOR THAT. AND I, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE STILL IN BUSINESS.

THEY ARE ARE THEY? BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, BEFORE YOU PULL THAT OFF WE HAVE, WE STILL HAVE THREE.

I THINK WE HAVE THREE OF OUR SPEAKERS TODAY THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE IF WE WANTED TO ADD COMPLETE A TRAFFIC CALMING STUDY FOR SHERRY DRIVE. WITH THAT, MAYOR, WOULD THAT INCLUDE SHERRY AND THE FIVE WAY STOP? WELL, NO THE FIVE WAY STOP IS INDEPENDENT. THAT'S BEING HANDLED THROUGH TPO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

SO BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT ELIMINATES, I DON'T THINK THE THE ROUNDABOUT OR THE, THE PEANUT, AS WE CALL IT FOR FIVE WAY STOP MEANS THAT WE CAN'T PROCEED WITH SOMETHING ON SHERRY.

AND NOW THAT WE HAVE CITY MANAGER AGREEING THAT HE'S PRIORITIZING WITH OR WITHOUT OUR DOT, THE INTERSECTION OF SHERRY AND ATLANTIC WITH FDOT.

WE, WE, I MY SENSE IS THAT WE FIRST OF ALL, AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE THIRD PERSON WHO I DID NOT KNOW BEFORE YOU SPOKE TONIGHT, BUT TWO OF THE THREE THAT SPOKE ON THIS ISSUE TODAY HAVE A PEDIGREE IN TRAFFIC PLANNING.

YES. SO I THINK WE OUGHT TO PAY ATTENTION AND UTILIZE THAT THAT INSIGHT FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT I, MY SENSE IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING DONE UNLESS WE DO A STUDY OUTSIDE OF OUR OWN LIMITED SCOPE WITHIN OUR CITY, AND I APOLOGIZE. CITY MANAGER IT'S NOT NO DING ON YOU OR THE REST OF THE STAFF, BUT I THINK THERE THERE'S MEAT TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

AND SO WE NEED TO AGREE THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO REALLY FLESH THIS OUT.

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AND WE HOPE THAT NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL COMPLETE TRAFFIC CALMING ON SHERRY DRIVE.

WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH STUDIES IN THE MEANTIME.

SO I, I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT KNOW THAT I, I KNEW THAT WE DID THE LIMITED STUDY THROUGH COJ.

YES. ARE THEY DOING FURTHER OR IS SOMEBODY ELSE IS DOING SOMETHING? NO, WE HAVE WORK TO DO IN THE COMMUNITY. OKAY.

AND AND GET SOME MORE NEW DATA. ALRIGHT, COOL.

COMPREHENSIVE DATA. SO, I MEAN, IT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD COMPLETE THE TRAFFIC CALMING, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO WOULD YOU. ARE YOU OKAY CHANGING THIS TO? I'M OKAY, SURE. CALMING ON SHERRY DRIVE RATHER THAN STUDY IT.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, I THINK SO. OKAY. I'M GOOD TO STUDY IT.

THEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT. JUST DO IT. YEAH. ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. PARKS AND PROGRAMING. THIS ONE'S GOOD.

IT'S ALWAYS FUN. COMMISSIONER BOLE ALWAYS HAS THE PRIORITY OF PARKS, UPKEEP AND MAINTENANCE. ANYTHING NEW? I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT LAND FOR TREES.

WE HAVE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE ACREAGE IS, BUT THE.

IS IT 20? HOW MANY PARKS IS IT? YOU CAN SAY 18, 18.

YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AND AND, YOU KNOW, KEEPING OUR TREES OBVIOUSLY IN THE PARKS AND THE UPKEEP AND ALL THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON.

I, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS PUT THAT UP THERE JUST BECAUSE I'M A PARKS GUY.

COMMISSIONER KELLY YOU SAID DEVELOP. I PARAPHRASED YOURS A LITTLE BIT, BUT DEVELOP NEW ADULT PROGRAMS FOR MARSH OAKS.

YOUR EMPHASIS IS ON NEW BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT. JUST DON'T JUST MOVE YOGA OVER THERE AND SAY, DONE, RIGHT. YEAH. AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, WHICH WAS MULTI-GENERATIONAL PROGRAMING, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS IT SPECIFICALLY MARSH OAKS.

IT WAS OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS AT ALL OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THIS? GOT IT. OKAY, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER COMMISSIONER KELLY THAT THAT WERE BROADER NEW PROGRAMING AT MARSH OAKS TO INCLUDE ADULT PROGRAMS. WAS THIS YOUR THING? THAT WAS MINE. WELL, BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE KID STUFF HAPPENS AT AT BAKER AND DONNER, AND SO I DIDN'T WANT THEM JUST TO MOVE YOGA AND TAI CHI OVER TO TO THE NEW BUILDING AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE WE'RE DONE BECAUSE THAT WE'VE ADDED TO OUR, OUR ACREAGE.

SO LET'S ADD TO OUR PROGRAM. OKAY, SO NEW YOU WANT NEW STUFF? I DO. OKAY. AND ADULT YES. GROWN UPS. ALRIGHT.

AND MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER KELLY BOTH CAME UP WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I SORT OF MERGED THEM.

UPDATE MASTER PARK'S PLAN AND LISTEN TO YOU. YOU GUYS ARE YOU ARE SCARILY ALIGNED LATELY.

I DON'T LIKE WHERE THIS. YOU'RE WORRIED. YEAH.

ALRIGHT. UPDATE MASTER PARK'S PLAN. MASTER PARK'S PLAN COMMUNITY, NEW USES AND NEWER TRENDS. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT ONE FOR WELL, YOU KNOW, BUT WITHOUT WITHOUT SAYING THE WORD PICKLEBALL, IT PROBABLY RAISED HIS UGLY HEAD AND WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.

MAYOR DID YOU HAVE? I'M GOOD WITH THAT. GOOD.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER KELLY EVALUATE JORDAN PARK PROGRAMING BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY JUST KID STUFF.

I FEEL LIKE JORDAN IS UNDERUTILIZED. IF IF IF IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

WELL, IT'S PRETTY, BUT THERE'S NEVER ANY PEOPLE THERE.

AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THAT BUILDING IS ONLY USED BY THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR AFTER SCHOOL.

SO LIKE, AGAIN, IT'S MORE REAL ESTATE THAT WE COULD BE USING BETTER IN MY OPINION.

AND THEN ALSO COMMISSIONER KELLY PURSUE COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS FOR PROGRAMS, PROJECTS AND RESOURCES, SORT OF LIKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT OTHER.

YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT THE VETERANS TO HAVE A, HAVE AN OFFICE THERE.

IT'S IN BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS.

SO IF THEY WANT A ROOM THERE, THEY SHOULD FURNISH IT.

YEAH. YEAH. MAYOR, WALK, GET A WALK OVER AT 16TH STREET.

I DON'T KNOW THAT BEFORE AND. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D PRIORITIZE THAT.

I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO MR. SWANN ABOUT THAT TODAY, AND THAT'S MOVING ALONG.

HE'S. THE BIGGER PROBLEM IS DOWN ON FIFTH, 15TH, THE TWO PROPERTIES.

THIS IS THE BIG ONE. OH, THAT'S A BIG ONE. OH. YOU OKAY? YOU CALLED 16. OKAY, SO ONE IS OKAY. BIG ONE.

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YEAH, I ALWAYS READ IT IS SECOND GUESS MY OKAY, I'M WITH I'M GOOD WITH IT.

SO SO THE ELEVATOR IT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS OF FOR CITY ENGINEER.

HE'S WORKING ON A GRANT REQUEST AND SO ON. THE ISSUE ON THAT ONE WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE ISSUE.

TWO PROPERTY OWNERS. PARDON? THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS ON EITHER SIDE.

THAT'S THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE IS NOT AN ISSUE PER SE.

THE ONE ON I'M SORRY, THE REVERSE THAT THE ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE IS NOT AN ISSUE PER SE.

IT'S THE ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. BUT BUT YOU, I KNOW ARE INVOLVED IN THAT MR. HOGENCAMP. AND SO IS A CITY ENGINEER. SO DO WE DO WE NOT PUT THAT ONE ON THERE OR DO WE LEAVE IT? DO YOU WANT TO PUT A JACKET? I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THAT WHEN I COME TO YOU, AT LEAST AT THE MOMENT, MY THOUGHT IS WHEN I PRESENT MY BUDGET TO YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ME ASK YOU.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A NUMBER. HOWEVER, WE ARE BANKING ON THE THE HOPE, THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING WILL COME IN GRANT FUNDS. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD LEAVE THAT ON AND POSSIBLY PRIORITIZE IT.

JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE REALLY FOCUS BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG DEAL.

I THINK YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY LEAVE IT ON BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A MONEY THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE AND YOU GO, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S TIME AND EFFORT. THAT'S GOING TO BE MONEY FROM THE CITY.

YEAH, THAT'S MONEY. FOR REAL MONEY. YEAH. OKAY.

ALRIGHT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER RING YOU HAD THREE THAT WERE SPECIFIC TO DONNER PARK.

ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT THIS SHOULD BE A COLON AFTER 2025.

AND, AND BECAUSE THESE WERE MY LAST YEAR AND I'D LIKE TO SEE ONE THAT DONNER PARK BASEBALL FIELD UPGRADE AND I THINK IT'S A SQUASH. NO, IT'S SLASH SLASH.

IT'S IT'S A SPLASH PAD. YEAH. IT'S A SQUASH PAD FOR THE SPLASH PAD.

OH, OKAY. GOTCHA. GOTCHA. SO IT'S CONCRETE. IT'S CONCRETE.

THE GROUND IS CONCRETE AND IT SCRAPES UP THE KIDS FEET.

AND WHEN THEY GET TO RUNNING AND THEY FALL, IT'S HORRIFIC ON THEIR KNEES A LOT.

OKAY, SO. AND IT CUTS UP THEIR LITTLE FEET. SO THEY HAVE SQUASH OR SQUISH PADS FOR, FOR THE SPLASH PADS.

I'M INTERESTED IN THIS, BUT I HAVE TO ASK CITY MANAGER QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE DOING ON THE SPLASH PAD AS WE'RE BACK IN SEASON? AND IS IT OPEN? HAS IT HAD MORE DOWNTIME THAN UPTIME? I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT WE'VE OPENED IT THIS SEASON.

OH, WE HAVE NOT. I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVEN'T. I HAVEN'T HEARD WE ARE.

IF WE HAVE, I'M NOT ON TOP OF IT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE ONLY ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP THAT I KNOW OF IN TERMS OF SAFETY OR OR IMPROVEMENTS, INDEED ARE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SQUISH PADS. CANOPY.

YOU PROMISED US OF CANOPY THE DAY IT OPENED AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT.

HE DID THAT FOR MOMS. YOU DID THAT? OH, I DON'T KNOW THAT HE DID, BUT.

WE'LL CHECK IT OUT. YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW I'M FAVORABLY INCLINED.

NOT SURE I'LL USE MY DOT, BUT I'M FAVORABLY INCLINED.

BUT WHEN WE GET TO BUDGET TIME, I WANT TO KNOW THAT THING IS UP AND RUNNING AND PERFORMING, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF DOWNTIME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'LL ASK JESSICA THIS, IS THAT A LIABILITY ISSUE TO THE CITY? I MEAN, NOT HAVING THE SQUISH. IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT A SAFETY ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, THEN YOU GOT TO TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE I, I WAS OUT THERE, YEAH, A FEW, QUITE A FEW TIMES LAST SEASON AND IT SCRAPES UP THEIR FEET PRETTY BAD, BUT I DON'T RUN ON CONCRETE ANYMORE.

SAFETY ISSUE. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A PRIORITY.

SO I'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AND AS FAR AS DOWNTIME LAST YEAR, CUMULATIVELY, I THINK IT WAS LESS THAN THREE WEEKS IN OUR VERY FIRST YEAR OF THE SPLASH PAD. OKAY. YES. OKAY. DOG PARKS. ROSE AND AQUATIC.

AND THAT WAS YOURS? YES. WHAT WAS IT? SO I KNOW THAT AQUATICS.

I'M SORRY. THE AQUATIC TURF AGILITY OBSTACLE COURSES.

YES. AND I, I THINK A LOT OF UPGRADES HAVE HAPPENED WITH AQUATIC.

I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK SINCE ALL THOSE UPGRADES, BUT I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT.

THE ROSE PARK COULD STILL USE ROSE DOG PARK THERE.

IT COULD STILL USE A LOT OF UPGRADES. IT'S BASICALLY JUST DIRT MOUND.

SO EITHER TURF THAT ONE'S FREE. THAT'S FREE, I BELIEVE. I'VE, I'VE I'VE NEVER PAID TO GO IN.

NO. AND IT'S HEAVILY UTILIZED. I PASSED BY IT MULTIPLE TIMES EACH DAY.

YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE WITH THEIR DOGS MULTIPLE TIMES AND IT'S JUST DIRT.

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OKAY. THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND WOULD THIS ALSO THEN ENHANCEMENTS LIKE TURF AGILITY AND OBSTACLE COURSES? YES. DOESN'T MEAN THE MISSION WOULDN'T WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT AS A PRIORITY.

AND THE ANSWER IS YES, IT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED.

WHETHER IT MAKES THE MASTER PLAN, I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. WELL CONSIDERATION OF IT. AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE GET INTO DISCUSSING THE ACTUAL BUDGET, YOUR MEMORY IS NEVER SHORT. IT'S LONG. SO YOU GO BACK AND SAY, IS THAT $35,000 ENOUGH TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS? EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN BIG DRAMA AT THE AQUATIC DOG PARK.

YEAH, I'M QUITE FAMILIAR. I THINK HE HEARS IT FIRST.

OKAY. THESE ARE ALSO PARKS AND PROGRAMING. SO THE DOG PARK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER GRANT DEDICATE RESOURCES TO THE NEW MARSH MARSH OAK CENTER. YEAH, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

WE'RE. I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE SHORT FOR OPPORTUNITIES.

OKAY. WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY LISTING, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BUT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW MAKING SURE OF A RESOURCE IS UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, THAT WE MAKE SURE THERE'S PLENTY OF THINGS THERE FOR THEM TO, TO TAKE PART IN. WHICH GOES BACK TO YOUR POINT OF LET'S NOT JUST MOVE THE YOGA CLASS.

YUP. COME UP WITH SOME NEW THINGS. RIGHT. AND THEN ALSO YOURS, COMMISSIONER GRANT WAS FIND PRIVATE FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE DONNER.

WELL, I THINK I SAID AND OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT EITHER WE DO IT OR I DO BELIEVE THERE'S PRIVATE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DO IT, WHICH WOULD SAVE US, I THINK. I HEARD A FIGURE AROUND 70 GRAND TO PUT IN A, A ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD OVER THERE, WHICH DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY MAINTENANCE WHICH IS KIND OF NICE.

AND IT'S YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LOCKING IT UP AND WORRYING ABOUT MESSING UP A PITCHER'S MOUND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND IT PERMEABLE. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO INFRINGE ON OUR PERMEABLE REGS.

SO JUST MAKE LET'S MAKE SURE WE DO THAT FIRST.

BUT IF SOMEHOW PRIVATE FUNDING DOESN'T COME THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO.

OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR PARKS AND PROGRAMS? CAN WE CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THESE? LIKE I WOULD BE FINE WITH ADDING THAT ONE FROM GRANT TO MINE BECAUSE I JUST SAYS THE BASEBALL FIELD AT DONNER AND IT COULD BE I UTILIZING PRIVATE FUNDS OR PRIVATE DONATIONS.

BUT I'LL REMIND YOU THAT SOMETIMES THE [INAUDIBLE] WE CALL THEM UP.

YEAH, WE, WE WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. CLEAN THEM UP.

YEAH. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS THAT YOU WORK WITH? OKAY. THIS ONE IS INTERESTING. BECAUSE WHAT I WAS, WAS ANTICIPATING THAT AS WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, THAT YOU ALL WOULD COME UP WITH SOME THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPECIFY FOR, FOR THIS PRIORITY. SO THAT WAS MY RATE STUDY.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU PUT IT. THAT'S RIGHT.

AND FRANKLY ON, ON SIX A THROUGH C ON THE HANDOUT ON THE, ON THE PRESENTATION I GAVE YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE THAT. WHAT I MEANT TO DO AND DIDN'T COMMISSIONER KELLY YOU BROUGHT UP WAS 6.D, WHICH IS MODERNIZED RATES AND FEES CITYWIDE, BUT WE'VE ONLY DONE THAT WITH BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEES.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT.

THAT. SO WHAT KELLY ACTUALLY HAS, HAS ON HERE SOME RATE.

RATE STUDY WAS RIGHT HERE. YEAH. I WOULD THINK SO.

WHAT, WHAT DO WE STILL NEED TO DO? SEWER, WATER.

REC FACILITIES. WHICH ONE'S THOSE THREE? ALL OF THE ABOVE.

OKAY. YEAH. POTENTIALLY GARBAGE AND AND STORMWATER.

I DIDN'T SAY GARBAGE BECAUSE WE HAD DONE THAT ONE NOT TOO LONG AGO.

OKAY, BUT IT CAN STAY IN THERE. BECAUSE THE RATES AND FEES CITYWIDE IS AS THE ONLY WAY TO MAYBE SCRATCH THAT OUT AND PUT IT UNDER THAT. SURE.

IT'S FINE. OKAY, THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF HERE.

OKAY. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE VOTING ON FOR THOSE.

I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE. MAYBE YOU HAVE IT ON A DIFFERENT SLIDE, BUT I KNOW WE'VE HAD IT IN PAST YEARS AND I THINK I PUT IN IS HIGHER AND MAINTAIN QUALITY

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BUT THAT THAT DIRECTLY FINANCIAL STABILITY. IN OTHER WORDS, US BEING ABLE TO HIRE AND MAINTAIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE? YOU KNOW? YEAH, IT'S ON CUSTOMER SERVICE I THINK.

BUT WE MAY, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, WE MAY WANT TO TINKER WITH THAT WORDING A LITTLE BIT SO THAT IT ALSO ADDRESSES THIS.

ALL RIGHT. AND YOU HAD YES, ON THE HANDOUTS SIX A THROUGH C I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE [INAUDIBLE] PUT THOSE UP UP HERE. I'M PREPARED TO WELL, YOU SEE THEM THERE SO YOU CAN DECIDE WHETHER ANY OF THEM.

YEAH. SO SOMETHING IMPORTANT DEFINITELY SUPPORT A OH YEAH, I APPRECIATED B THE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY LAUNCH AN OPEN DATA TRANSPARENCY PORTAL. I'M UP FOR C.

ALL RIGHT. SO A, B AND C. YEAH. [INAUDIBLE] BENEFITS IN OTHER WAYS.

I'M AGAIN DOING. SEE YOU ALL ALONG. RIGHT. BUT IF IF SOMEBODY LEAVES THIS CITY.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT. YEAR OR TWO. YEAH.

WE NEED THAT GUY TO DO THE GRANTS BECAUSE THAT PAYS FOR MORE THAN ITS WEIGHT IN GOLD.

YEAH. THAT ONE. SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. I DID ADD LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY TO THAT AS WELL.

AND THAT THAT CONNECTS TO OUR LOBBYIST AND ALSO OUR NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR CONSULTANT WORKING ON GETTING CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FUNDING. OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

YEAH. OKAY. SO SHALL WE START WITH A, COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL POLICY MANUAL AND ADOPT A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET

[6. DISCUSSION AND SECOND ROUND OF VOTING (IF NEEDED) TO WORK THROUGH PRIORITIES IN EACHPRIORITY AREA AND GENERATE COLLECTIVE, AGREED UPON 2026-27 PRIORITIES (LINDALANIER/GROUP)]

DO YOU WANT THEM IN THE SAME BULLET? I WOULD RECOMMEND IT AGAIN.

THIS IS THEIR EXERCISE AND. YES. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU DEFINE A STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET POLICY? YES, WE HAVE A BUDGET POLICY. AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY IMPROVED IT AND WE HAVE A FINANCIAL POLICY MANUAL AS WE HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AND BETTER AT GRANT ADMINISTRATION. WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO IMPROVE THOSE POLICIES, BOTH OF THEM FOR OUR CANDIDACY FOR GRANTS AND FOR ADMINISTRATION OF GRANTS.

AND SO JUST KIND OF CODIFYING THAT AS, AS PRIORITIES IS, IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING POTENTIALLY BE ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES. SO THEN THANK YOU.

AND SO BACK TO THE MAIN BULLET DEFINE RESERVE GOVERNANCE.

YOU'VE GOT POLICY AND RESERVE GOVERNANCE. HOW WE HOW WE MANAGE OUR RESERVE FUNDS.

OKAY. SO ARE WE SPEAKING ONLY ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, OR ARE WE? NO. NO, NO. SO WHEN YOU SAY RESERVES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THE.

25 MILLION. OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, ANY OF THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL CONSISTENT WITH OUR, OUR, HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING TOWARD BEING A MORE POLICY DRIVEN ORGANIZATION. OKAY. SO THAT IS A THIRD THING UNDER THIS BULLET.

NO, I DON'T, I DON'T I DON'T THINK SO, NO. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE NEXT BULLET WOULD BE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY AND OPEN DATA TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.

YEAH. YEAH, I WOULD CALL, I WOULD JUST PUT THE BULLET AS OPEN DATA TRANSPARENCY AND MAYBE ASK YOU A QUESTION.

CAN WE BE AUDITED FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THAT SEND US THE GRANT? I KNOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY DO THAT. CERTAINLY WE'RE MORE WE ARE WE ARE MORE THAN EVER SUBJECT TO BEING AUDITED BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH GRANT MONEY WE'RE GETTING.

RIGHT? THERE'S $1 MILLION THRESHOLD THAT WE'RE NOW GOING TO CROSS.

AND LIKE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THAT. YES. FOR SURE.

THAT WITH OUR GRANTS TO THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE RECREATION COMMITTEE, THEY AUDIT THE GRANT RECIPIENTS.

I THINK THAT'S A REASON THAT B AND C. AND THEN THE FOR C MAINTAIN AN AGGRESSIVE STANCE ON ON GRANT AND LEGISLATIVE ADVOCACY. AS FAR AS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE I GUESS I CAN CATEGORIZE IT AS GRANT AND ADVOCACY MANAGEMENT. OKAY. SEEMS LIKE, WEREN'T WE GOING TO GET A NEW.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET A NEW LOBBYIST? I'M NOT AWARE.

MAYBE WE ARE IN THE MARKET FOR A NEW LOBBYIST, BUT MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN.

SEEMS LIKE I'VE TALKED TO BILL ABOUT IT. YES, WE HAD, JUST FOR THE RECORD, AND THIS PROBABLY WAS IN A PRIVATE ONE ON ONE WITH THE

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SO THAT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE HAD.

YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, IT SHOULD BE HAD VERY PRIVATELY AND INTERNALLY BY THE CITY MANAGER RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE ONCE YOU MAKE IT PUBLIC, THEN YOU BEST TO TALK TO YOUR CURRENT LOBBYIST.

WELL, SO THIS IS JUST A MANUAL. DO YOU WANT DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A PRIORITY? THAT IS BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S THE I HAVE A LOT OF.

YEAH. AND FRANKLY, OF, OF, OF THE, OF THE FOR THAT ONE IS MORE MORE VAGUE AND LESS LESS LIKELY TO PUT A DOT ON.

AND YOU WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT NOW.

YEAH. DO IT ANYWAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. AND THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE VOTING.

YES. BECAUSE YOUR DOTS ARE, YOUR DOTS ARE PRECIOUS.

YOU ONLY HAVE TEN. AND THAT IS IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY OR THAT IT'S A ROUTINE PART OF THE DAILY WORK.

IF YOU SPEND YOUR DOT, YOUR DOT IS GONE. JUST, JUST I KNOW KEVIN KNOWS THIS, BUT YOU IF YOU FAIL AN AUDIT IN ANY OF THESE, THAT THAT'S BAD. I MEAN, BAD FOR THE CITY FOR MAYBE A DECADE.

OKAY. THIS IS OUR. OH, WELL, THIS IS OUR ALMOST LAST ONE, BUT I HAVE A SURPRISE ONE FOR YOU.

COMMUNICATION AND CUSTOMER SERVICE. NUMBER ONE, IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE.

OKAY, GENERAL. AND THAT'S FROM COMMISSIONER BOLE.

ALSO HIRE AND MAINTAIN QUALITY STAFF. OKAY. AND THEN MAYOR SAID, HIGH INTENSITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING THAT'S SEGMENTED.

WILL YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH. SO WE HAVE PART OF OUR STAFF IS CUSTOMER FACING AND PART OF OUR STAFF IS NOT.

SO THE TRAINING IS DIFFERENT. THERE ARE OVERARCHING THINGS THAT CAN BE THE WHOLE STAFF CAN BE TRAINED TO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE SPECIFIC. IF YOU ARE RECEIVING PAYMENTS IN CITY HALL FOR THE WATER BILL AND SO ON, YOU'RE CUSTOMER FACING, IF YOU'RE GOING OUT TO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY ON VIOLATIONS AND SO ON, YOU'RE PROBABLY CUSTOMER FACING. AND SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CONSISTENT AND, AND REALLY GOOD AT THAT. SO YOU'RE EITHER SERVING THE CUSTOMER OR YOU'RE SERVING THE PERSON WHO'S SERVING THE CUSTOMER.

YEAH. ONE OR THE OTHER, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEN IF IT WAS UP TO ME, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS GET SPECIALIZED DEPARTMENT HEAD TRAINING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO FLOW DOWNHILL ON US. AND HOW OFTEN HAVE WE SEEN IN OUR WORK WORLDS THE VERY, VERY BEST BEDSIDE NURSE BECOMES THE VERY WORST NURSE SUPERVISOR OR THE VERY BEST THIRD GRADE TEACHER BECOMES THE VERY WORST PRINCIPAL. YEAH. YEAH. SO THEY ARE DIFFERENT SKILL SETS.

OKAY. COMMUNICATION. THIS IS COMMISSIONER RING.

COMMUNICATIONS CONTINUE 2025. AND IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE, YOU PUT A COLON AT THE END OF 2025.

AND THOSE ARE MY TWO. OKAY. SO ONE TO DESIGNATE A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, THIS NOT NOT A SEPARATE POSITION, JUST ADD THAT TO SOMEONE AND THEIR SPECIFIC JOB WOULD ENTAIL EVERYTHING FROM WHERE WE ARE IN OUR PROJECTS AND TO SOCIAL MEDIA EVENTS. IT COULD BE PART OF JORDAN'S JOB.

AND I'M DRAWING A BLANK ON HIS LAST NAME. LESLIE.

YES. THANK YOU. MONTHLY MANAGER NEWSLETTER. I JUST THINK THAT THIS WOULD HELP WITH PUBLIC RELATIONS AND THE CITY MANAGER WITH THE CITIZENS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT BILL STARTED TO DO.

ACTUALLY, JOE GARRITY WAS DOING THIS PRETTY WELL.

AND I, I, I THINK PEOPLE ENJOY IT. I THINK THE CITIZENS ENJOY KNOWING WHO'S RUNNING OUR CITIES AND KNOWING LITTLE SPECIFIC THINGS FROM PROJECTS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES.

OKAY. THEN THE LAST ONE COMMISSIONER GRANT SHARE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATOR DATA.

YEAH. THIS WAS THIS WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS.

I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN LIKE, HEY. MY PERMIT'S, YOU KNOW TAKING TOO LONG OR MY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS TAKING TOO LONG.

IT'S BEEN A MONTH. WHAT'S GOING ON? SO IF THIS NEW ERP SYSTEM IS DOESN'T HAVE ALL THESE BELLS AND WHISTLES RIGHT NOW

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AND, AND IF WE SET RECOURSE FOR IT, LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS SHOULD, THIS SHOULD HAPPEN IN THIS AMOUNT OF TIME.

IF IT DOESN'T, THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO COME AND BANG ON OUR DOOR AND, AND GET SOME PRIORITY.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I'M LOOKING FOR WITH THAT.

ALRIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THIS PRIORITY HERE? RIGHT. SO I HAD ONE MORE. TWO MORE ACTUALLY. I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT THEM.

SO I CALLED THEM AND AND ONE IS FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY CONTINUE TO PURSUE BOUNDARY AND BUDGET ISSUES WITH DUVAL COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD TO ENSURE THE VIABILITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY.

LOVE THAT SCHOOL. AND THEN SO AND I I'M GOING TO TAKE LICENSE HERE AND JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH.

ERNIE? NO, BOARD CHAIR YOU KNOW. BOARD CHAIR KNOW, HE'S A SUPER DUPER. CHARLOTTE. CHARLOTTE.

YEAH. I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HER MULTIPLE TIMES THIS YEAR TO SCHEDULE OUR PERFUNCTORY ONE OF TWO ANNUAL MEETINGS THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN HER BECAUSE SHE COMMUNICATES BACK, BUT THEN SHE DOESN'T GET US THE DATE.

SO I DID SPEAK WITH APRIL CARNEY A WEEK AGO AND SHE'S ON IT.

SO WE'LL HAVE A DATE PRETTY SOON FOR THAT FIRST MEETING, IT MAY END UP BEING THE ONLY MEETING BECAUSE IT TAKES THEM ABOUT A YEAR TO SCHEDULE A MEETING. RIGHT. OKAY, SO I WAS. OH. GO AHEAD.

I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE BEACHES WATCH BECAUSE HE WAS THE SPEAKER FOR BEACHES WATCH.

AND I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE A YEAR AGO. DID YOU BRING IT UP IN THE FORUM? YES. WHERE OTHER PEOPLE HEARD IT. AND YEAH. WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? SO MY QUESTION WAS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ABOUT SCHOOL UTILIZATION, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET OUR KIDS BACK INTO ATLANTIC BEACH ELEMENTARY. YES. AND A YEAR AGO THE ANSWER WAS LIKE, NO, WE'RE CLOSING IT.

AND THIS TIME HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER YOU GUYS ASKING IT THAT LAST YEAR.

AND THE THE ANSWER AT THE TIME WAS NOT NO, THAT HE SAID THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS I WANT TO CONSIDER BEFORE I DECIDE.

AND THEN HE LISTED THEM AND I NEED TO GO BACK AND AND LISTEN TO THAT AGAIN.

SO I WANTED TO KEEP PUSHING HIM BECAUSE HE REMEMBERS THAT WE'VE ASKED.

YEAH, I DOCTOR BERNIER, I PULLED HIM ASIDE WHEN THEY WERE AT FLETCHER AT THE FIRST MEETING THAT THE MAYORS OF THE BEACHES SAT THROUGH.

I PULLED HIM ASIDE AND BROUGHT THIS UP AGAIN BECAUSE I WENT AND SPOKE AT THE SCHOOL BOARD LAST JANUARY.

NOT, YOU KNOW, 2025, AND THEN WE WROTE A RESOLUTION.

AND THEN WHEN I PULLED THEM, WHERE ARE WE ON? WHERE ARE WE AT ON THIS? HE SAID IT WAS AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF HIS LIST OF PRIORITIES.

IN FACT, IT WASN'T EVEN ON IT. SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT, HE SAID.

IT'S THERE'S OTHER THINGS. SO YEAH, I WASN'T TOO HAPPY WITH THAT RESPONSE.

WELL, HIS RESPONSE WEDNESDAY NIGHT WAS, WAS REASONABLE.

AND WE WOULD JUST NEED TO KEEP PUSHING SO HE DOESN'T FORGET US.

I USUALLY MAKE LITTLE NOTES WHO WROTE A PRIORITY AND I MISSED THIS ONE.

SO WAS THIS YOURS? HERE'S MINE. OKAY. SURVEY AND MARK 20% OF PARKING SPOTS IN BEACH RENOURISHMENT RENOURISHMENT MINIMUM REQUIRED COUNT FOR FIVE YEARS. UPDATE THEREAFTER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH, SO WE MUST HAVE X NUMBER. I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER IS 260 WHATEVER WITHIN SO FAR THE BEACH.

RIGHT. AND SO IT AS AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND, AND WE'VE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF IT IS, IS MARKING THE PARKING SPACES. SURE. SO I, I JUST PICKED 20% BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY AMBITIOUS.

BUT IF WE, IF WE, IF WE TRY TO MARK ALL THOSE 20, ALL THOSE 266 THEN OUR RENOURISHMENT MONEY IS ASSURED. SO WHEN YOU SAY MARK, WITH SIGNAGE, WHAT, WHAT DID WE DECIDE? OH, OKAY. I'M IN. I'M WITH HER. OKAY. THREE TIMES TODAY.

WOW. KELLY. MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A DRINK LATER.

I'M MOVING OVER. CAN YOU SLIDE DOWN A LITTLE? BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE PAINT. WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE TURF BLOCKS.

WE COULD DO SIGNS, I GUESS. SO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW.

SO IT GOES. IT SORT OF SUPPLICANTS. COMMISSIONER.

THANK YOU. THAT WORD COMMISSIONER. IT'S THE MARKERS.

COMMISSIONER BOLE, PLUS THE ONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BEACHES THERE.

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AT LEAST THE DEMARCATION OF PUBLIC PARKING SPACES NEAR THE BEACH.

THAT WAS A STAFF COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING AT THE NEXT MEETING ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, HOW WE MIGHT IMPLEMENT THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S FRONT AND CENTER.

A BIG TOPIC IF I MAY, ON THE TOPIC ABOVE THAT IS, IS FRANKLY CHANGING THE ZONE SO THAT EVERYONE IN ALL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN IN ATLANTIC BEACH ATTEND ABE.

IS THAT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF [INAUDIBLE]? YEAH. YES. YEAH. THANKS. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL I GOT FROM YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? YOUR LAST MOMENT. OKAY. KEVIN, COULD YOU MAYBE JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND JUST USE THE BLUE MARKER TO CHECK ANYTHING THAT THEY MAY NOT WANT TO WASTE A DOT ON BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY? AND IF YOU COULD GIVE HIM JUST A MOMENT TO DO THAT AND THEN GET UP, THIS IS YOUR WALK AROUND TIME WITH YOUR DOTS.

DO THE FORCE CHOICE. SO YOU KNOW, EITHER GET TO GO ON A HOLIDAY OR YOU GET TO BUY A NEW REFRIGERATOR.

GOT A DESIGN TO REMIND YOU THAT WE'LL BE STILL RECORDING DURING THIS.

IS THAT RIGHT? I WOULD PAUSE IT. WELL, WE'LL PAUSE THE RECORDING NOW WHILE YOU CAN.

YOU HAVE A SURPRISE SLIDE. I THOUGHT YOU HAD ANOTHER. THIS WAS A SURPRISE. OKAY.

AND BECAUSE I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO PUT IT.

YEAH. AND THAT PART. I'M SORRY. THIS PARKING OVER HERE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.