May 11, 2026 Commission Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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WELCOME RESIDENTS, NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS. THIS IS ALMOST OVERWHELMING.

I WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS FEW. THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]. WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS LITTLE IN THE CHAMBERS FOR A WHILE, BUT ANYWAYS BEFORE WE OPEN THIS MEETING, WE'LL HAVE AN INVOCATION AND PLEDGE LED BY COMMISSIONER RING.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER TONIGHT TO DO CITY WORK.

FATHER, BUT REMIND US WHY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US STEPPED UP TO THIS ROLE, TO BE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, TO BE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE, TO LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, TO HEAR OUT OUR CITIZENS, AND TO HEAR OUT EACH OTHER.

BE WITH US AS WE AS WE CONVERSE OVER CITY BUSINESS AND BE WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS LORD. ALSO BE WITH OUR ARMED SERVICES.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

BEFORE I OPEN THIS MEETING, I JUST WANT TO LET COMMISSIONER GRANT KNOW OUR HEARTS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY IN THE PASSING OF YOUR FATHER.

MAY HE REST IN PEACE. I DID NOT KNOW HIM, BUT.

BUT ANYTIME ONE LOSES A PARENT, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT EVENT.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I, I'M SURE IF TONIGHT WAS YOU WERE NEEDED IN LOUISIANA YOU'D BE THERE, BUT THANK YOU. THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING DATED MAY 11TH, 2026 FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, WILL COME TO ORDER.

DONNA ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BOLE. PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER GRANT. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RING. PRESENT. MAYOR FORD.

PRESENT. THANK YOU DONNA. SO. THANKS BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE AGENDA ITEMS, WE HAVE A LITTLE CHANGE AND APOLOGIES TO ANYBODY WHO IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS, BUT WE WERE, WE HAD NOTICED THE REPLAT MATTER FOR 0 SEMINOLE ROAD AND IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S NOT THERE.

THIS IS ITEM. LET'S SEE. OR THE. SO THE APPLICATION NUMBER IS PLAT 25-0002.

THIS IS GOING TO BE DEFERRED AND RE NOTICED FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT? MAY 26TH.

OH I'M SORRY. MAY. MAY 26TH. SO APOLOGIES IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT.

AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO SPEAK ON THAT COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TONIGHT AND YET AGAIN ON THE 26TH.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TWO READINGS ON THAT SO THAT WE'LL, THERE'LL BE A FOLLOW UP MEETING AFTER THAT FOR THE FINAL READ.

ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO SAY ON THAT, COUNSELOR? NO, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE THERE'S TWO READS ON THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ORDINANCE. IT'S JUST A RE PLAT.

SO I THINK IT'LL JUST BE HEARD ON MAY 26TH.

BUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK TO IT AT THAT TIME, OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. SO TONIGHT AND MAY 20TH OR I'M SORRY.

MAY. YEAH. MAY 26TH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 1, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

[1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES ]

DO WE HAVE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE.

THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED. SO WE'LL OPEN UP COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO VISITORS.

[2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS ]

TOO MANY CONSONANTS. RIGHT. [LAUGHTER]. NOT AN EASY ONE.

MY NAME IS ROY SCHLEICHER. I'M 80 BEACH COTTAGE LANE ATLANTIC BEACH UP ON SEMINOLE.

I REALIZED I CAME HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE PLAT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELD OFF TO THE 26TH AND I, HOPEFULLY I CAN COME, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A FEW COMMENTS WITHOUT GOING INTO A LOT OF DETAIL AND WASTING A LOT OF YOUR TIME.

BUT MY CONCERN IS I MOVED INTO ATLANTIC BEACH FROM PONTE VEDRA 20 YEARS AGO OR SO, AND I'VE SEEN SO MUCH OVERDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.

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WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THE TREE CITY, USA. BUT EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND, WE'RE CUTTING DOWN MORE TREES AND THAT PLAT THAT WE'RE.

THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON 26TH, WHICH I STILL LIKE TO REFERENCE, IS THE FACT THAT THAT PLAT HOUSES NOT JUST A LOT OF TREES THAT ARE WELL OVER HUNDREDS OF YEARS OLD BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY A MARITIME FOREST.

AND I PULLED THAT UP IN ATLANTIC BEACH MARITIME FOREST AN EXPLANATION EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S GOT WATER IN THERE. IT'S GOT TREES. IT'S GOT LIKE LIVE OAKS THAT ARE PROBABLY WELL OVER 100, 200 YEARS OLD. WE WERE, WE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT THAT A WHILE BACK ABOUT PEOPLE BUYING IT.

AND THEN WE, THEY WANTED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

WE PROTESTED IT. THEY DIDN'T DO IT. NEW PEOPLE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, AND THEN WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WE SAW THE PLAT COME OUT.

I THINK JANUARY 20TH WAS THE MEETING, AND OUR PRESIDENT OF OUR ASSOCIATION CAME UP TO TALK ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR PLAQUE.

AND HE WAS BASICALLY CUT SHORT, LIKE, ARE YOU DONE TALKING NOW? AND KIND OF LEAVE, LEAVE. SO HE DIDN'T FIGHT BACK.

HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. SO I THOUGHT ON MY BEHALF, BECAUSE I USED TO BE A BOARD MEMBER OF THE GROUP.

WE HAVE SEVEN TOWNHOUSES RIGHT THERE ON 80 BEACH COTTAGE AND ALL THE ONES ON THE SOUTH SIDE FACE THIS, THIS PROPERTY. WE GET TO SEE FOXES ALL THE TIME.

THEY HAVE DENS IN THAT PROPERTY. WE GET TO SEE OWLS.

THERE'S OWLS FLOATING AROUND IN THERE, HAWKS, OTHER BIRDS.

I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF REPTILES AND INSECTS, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, SINCE THEY STARTED BUILDING THE TWO HOUSES OFF OF BEACH AVENUE AND THEY'VE CUT DOWN EVERY TREE THERE IS THE FOXES HAVE TAKEN AT LEAST ONE OF THE DENS HAS COME TO OUR POOL AND THEY THEY'RE UNDERNEATH OUR POOL DECK, WHICH IS GOING TO CAUSE A PROBLEM FOR US SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. WE CALL ATLANTIC BEACH. THERE'S NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. THEY TOLD US TO CALL WILDLIFE. WE DID. THEY GAVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS. WE'RE TRYING THOSE SUGGESTIONS. NOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HARM THE FOXES BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING DRIVEN OUT OF THEIR HOME. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE THAT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO COST US MONEY DOWN THE DOWN THE ROAD.

AND LIKE I SAID, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE TREE CANOPY ITSELF IS PROTECTION FOR THE WHOLE AREA BECAUSE OF HURRICANES AND THINGS THAT IT CUTS DOWN THE WIND.

THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE GONE. AND IF I THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD LEAVE SOME OF THE TREES UP AND MAKE A PRESENT, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WAS STILL SOME OF THE OLD TREES LEFT, THAT WILL BE FINE.

BUT I DON'T SEE THAT WHAT THEY DID ON PEACH AVENUE, THEY DESTROYED THE AREA.

THEY, THEY JUST PLOWED EVERYTHING OUT. ALL THE TREES ARE GONE.

AND I HAVE, I'M WORRIED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT ON THE SEMINOLE SIDE.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST A SHAME. EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND A 20 YEARS, I, I'VE JUST SEEN SO MANY CONCRETE STRUCTURES GOING UP AROUND HERE.

I MEAN, THIS USED TO BE A, YOU KNOW, NICE LITTLE HOMES OR GOOD SIZED HOMES, BUT THEY, BUT THEY WERE NEVER LIKE THEY ARE NOW.

AND IT JUST, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THAT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, ATLANTIC BEACH IS I DON'T WANT IT TO BE.

IT MIGHT BE THE TREE CITY, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE CONCRETE JUNGLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TURNING IT INTO. AND I REALLY THINK THAT SOME MORE, MORE CONSIDERATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT THAT.

I THINK MORE THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT INTO IT INSTEAD OF JUST AGREEING.

I WORK FOR CITIES. I WORK FOR THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. I WORK FOR STATE OF MARYLAND.

SO I KNOW HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS. I KNOW HOW THESE THINGS GET PUSHED ALONG AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING, BUT IT MEANS SOMETHING TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA.

SO I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT. AND IF I CAN BE HERE ON THE 26TH, I WILL COME BACK ON THE 26TH AND ADDRESS IT WITH THAT GROUP.

BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT ATLANTIC BEACH NOT BEING A BEACH TOWN ANYMORE.

IT'S, IT'S A METROPOLIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MR. SCHLEICHER. WE'RE WORRIED TOO.

[LAUGHTER]. ELLEN GLASSER.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'M ELLEN GLASSER. NORMALLY I JUST SAY MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE, BUT I LIVE AT 2060 BEACH AVENUE.

JUST A COUPLE OF LOTS NORTH OF THIS LOCATION WHERE THE REPLAT WILL BE CONSIDERED ON MAY 26TH.

BUT BEFORE I GET TO THAT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY FIRST, MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU, COMMISSIONER GRANT, ON THE LOSS OF YOUR FATHER. THAT'S ALWAYS VERY HARD.

AND I JUST LEARNED BEFORE THE MEETING THAT SOMEBODY THAT I PRESENTED THE KEY TO THE CITY TO GREG FRANEK WHO SAVED LIVES IN A FIRE ON LONG BEACH AVENUE BACK IN 2022. HE PASSED AWAY. I CONSIDER HIM, LIKE A VERY SPECIAL CITIZEN OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO RECOGNIZE HIM.

HE LIVED A VERY SIMPLE LIFE, RODE HIS BICYCLE AROUND TOWN, BUT HE SAVED AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE BEFORE THE JFRD CAME WITH ALL OF THEIR EQUIPMENT AND DID THEIR THING AND PUT THAT FIRE OUT. AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT I WILL MISS GREG, AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR WHAT HE DID FOR OUR CITY.

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I CAME TO THE TOWN HALL, SO I SORT OF WARNED YOU THAT THIS WAS ON MY RADAR.

AND I TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH WATER WITH RESPECT TO REPLATTING.

SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THERE HAS BEEN PLENTY OF TIME. WE WERE SENT A LETTER AND I'M ON BEACH AVENUE, SO I DON'T ALWAYS GET THE, THE SIGNAGE THAT WAS THE SIGNAGE WENT UP ON 0 SEMINOLE FOR THE CDB.

SO I NEVER SAW THAT. SO I WOULD HAVE COME OTHERWISE.

SO YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF PLATTING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER THE NEW PLAT IS GOING TO BE COMPLIES WITH STORMWATER REGULATIONS, ZONING REGULATIONS AND WHEN I READ THE STAFF REPORT AS THIS WENT BEFORE THE CDB, I GUESS I DIDN'T KNOW THIS, BUT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WAS REDUCED FROM 75 FOOT WIDTH TO 40 FOOT WIDTH ALONG BEACH AVENUE.

SO WHERE THE INITIAL OWNER WAS GOING TO BUILD ONE HOUSE, THEN IT CHANGED TO TWO HOUSES AND NOW THEY ARE ABLE TO BUILD 4 HOUSES.

SO WHERE I LIVE, THERE'S A BUILD RIGHT NOW THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NEXT DOOR, SAME SIZE LOTS, HUGE BOX HOUSES. I'M SURE THEY WILL BE LOVELY WHEN THEY'RE DONE, BUT THE PICTURE THAT I'VE PROVIDED TO YOU IS, IS OF THE DRAINAGE ON ONE OF THOSE LOTS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE MAY SEE WITH THIS REPLATTING REQUEST AS WE PUT 4 BIG BOX HOUSES ON THESE LOTS. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE BUILDS CAN BE SUPPORTED BY OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

THIS PLACE HAS GOT SAND THAT THE BILL THAT'S GOING ON HAS IT'S GOT SANDBAGS ON IT.

THERE'S A HUGE GULLY THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ENCROACHING ON THE FOUNDATION.

AND WHILE I DON'T QUESTION THAT THE CDB DID ITS JOB AND THAT YOU WILL DO YOUR JOB IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN CONCERT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I DO THINK THIS SHOULD BE REVISITED BECAUSE THERE THAT THESE LOTS CANNOT HANDLE THE WATER.

I'M ALSO GOING TO SAY THAT THEY'RE BUILDING THESE LOTS UP WHERE THEIR RETENTION WALLS, WHERE THEY'RE HIGHER THAN THE LOTS NEXT DOOR.

AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THIS AREA CAN SUSTAIN IT.

I LIVE ON A LOW LOT AND IT DRAINS TO THE BACK.

AND, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY, I HAVEN'T HAD ISSUES WITH STORMWATER IN MY HOUSE, BUT IT'S BECAUSE I PLANNED FOR IT.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE BASEMENTS IN THESE HOUSES THAT ARE GETTING BUILT, THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THEM.

AND I RESPECTFULLY WOULD ASK YOU TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW STORMWATER REGULATIONS ON THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS TO SEE IF THEY CAN BE SUSTAINED IN THAT LOT. I ECHO WHAT ROY HAS TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE LOSS OF TREES.

THAT'S A REAL THING, BUT I KNOW THAT. I KNOW THAT THE LOTS ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.

I MEAN, I'M NOT SO NAIVE TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY TREES, BUT I THINK THIS BEARS SOME REVIEW BECAUSE IT IS HAVING A DELETERIOUS EFFECT.

IN TERMS OF THE MOVEMENT OF WATER ON MY STREET.

AS I SAID AT THE TOWN HALL, WATER ALWAYS WINS.

SO LET'S NOT BUILD HOUSES AND SELL THEM AND THEN HAVE THE FOUNDATIONS FAIL.

SO WITH THAT SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE BACK ON THE 26TH, BUT YOU'VE HEARD ME SPEAK TWICE TO THIS, SO I HOPE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT THAT AREA OF TOWN, THERE'S STILL SANDBAGS THERE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.

LOTS OF LOTS OF DIRT BEING MOVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MAYOR GLASSER. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

OKAY. THEN AT THIS TIME, I'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE TO ITEM 2.A NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK PROCLAMATION.

MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MAYOR FORD. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL RECOGNITION OF THE INCREDIBLE VALUE THAT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND WHAT THEY DO HAS TO OUR COMMUNITY. I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH NEXT WEEK AND PRESENT IT TO TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE SORT OF THE NUCLEUS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S CHRIS BARRON, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COORDINATOR, AND ANGELA IRIZARRY, WHO'S OUR PUBLIC WORKS INSPECTOR AND OUR GIS COORDINATOR.

OKAY. AND I'LL TAKE YOUR PICTURE IF YOU DO THAT.

OKAY.

[3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS ]

OH.

GREAT. [LAUGHTER]. WE BREAK IT, THEY FIX IT. ALRIGHT.

NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH.

IN RECOGNITION OF NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

I'VE GOT THE RIGHT ONE. YEAH. WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR CITIZENS EVERYDAY LIVES.

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AND WHEREAS THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND COMFORT OF THE COMMUNITY GREATLY DEPENDS ON THESE FACILITIES AND SERVICES, AND WHEREAS THE QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS THEIR PLANNING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS VITALLY DEPENDENT UPON THE EFFORTS AND SKILL OF PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS.

AND WHEREAS, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE QUALIFIED AND DEDICATED PERSONNEL WHO STAFF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS MATERIALLY INFLUENCED BY THE PEOPLE'S ATTITUDE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE WORK THEY PERFORM. AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S THEME, ROOTED IN SERVICE POWERED BY COMMUNITY, SPEAKS TO THE ESSENTIAL NATURE OF PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES IN SUPPORT OF EVERYDAY QUALITY OF LIFE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, CURTIS FORD, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH THROUGH MAY 23RD, 2026 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, AND CALL UPON ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE ISSUES INVOLVED IN PROVIDING OUR PUBLIC WORKS AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS MAKE EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT AND QUALITY OF LIFE. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS 11TH DAY OF MAY 2026. SHALL WE? YES.

WE'LL GET TO YOU THANK YOU. MR. HOGENCAMP, NOW ON TO ITEM 3.A ACCEPT THE 90-DAY CALENDAR.

ANY. COMMISSIONERS ANY CHANGES TO THE 90-DAY CALENDAR? YES. A QUESTION AND I KNOW I ALREADY TALKED TO INTERIM CITY MANAGER KEVIN ABOUT IT, BUT THE, WE SHOULD BE STARTING BUDGET WORKSHOP SOON AND WHEN WE HAVE THOSE DATES.

SO HE GAVE ME SOME POSSIBLE DATES, BUT I KNOW IT'S SUMMER AND VACATIONS ARE SO SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THANKS. IF I MAY I AM PREPARED TO ADD, ASK YOU TO ADD THE DATES TO THE 90-DAY CALENDAR FOR THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

HOWEVER, YOU MAY NEED MORE TIME TO GO OVER THEM.

A COUPLE OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN WITH. WE'VE TENTATIVELY ESTABLISHED A BUDGET WORKSHOP DATES AS BEING MONDAY, JUNE 29TH, MONDAY, JULY 20TH, AND WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 19TH.

THESE WORKSHOPS WOULD BE AT 6:00 P.M. AND OF COURSE, IF ANY OF YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE DATES, WE'LL TRY TO WORK AROUND THEM AS BEST WE CAN.

I'M SORRY. CAN YOU READ IT AGAIN? YOU BETCHA.

MONDAY, JUNE 29TH. MONDAY, JULY 20TH AND WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 19TH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WOULD ANY OF YOU, LIKE, MORE TIME OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND ROLL WITH THOSE TONIGHT? AND IF, IF YOU'D LIKE MORE TIME, WE'LL ASK YOU TO ACCEPT THE 90-DAY CALENDAR WITHOUT THOSE DATES AND WORK ON THOSE DATES LATER.

MONDAYS. THEY'RE ALREADY RESERVED FOR CITY BUSINESS.

YEAH. SO THE LAST ONE IS A WEDNESDAY THOUGH? IT IS.

AND IT'S 6:00 P.M.? YES. THOSE DATES WORK FOR ME.

NO, THAT'S GOOD. I'M IN. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONERS CONSENSUS? YES. OKAY. YOU HAVE YOUR CALENDAR.

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AND IF YOU HAVE NOT YET RSVP, PLEASE CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE WITH DEPUTY CITY CLERK NICHOLS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND IF I MAY, COMMISSIONERS WHO CANNOT BE THERE? YOU CAN'T BE THERE? I'M SORRY.

OKAY. EXCELLENT. THIS IS AS IS IN THE PAST WE ACTUALLY ARE JOINT HOSTING THIS WITH THE OTHER TWO BEACH CITIES, BUT WE'RE USING ATLANTIC BEACH TO HOST IT THIS YEAR INSTEAD OF ONE OF THE OTHER BEACHES.

SO WE'RE ON STAGE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I MAY CONTINUE.

I'M AT 3.B ON YOUR AGENDA. MY FIRST REPORT. NOW, THIS REPORT PROVIDES AN UPDATE ON SOME PRIMARY ADMINISTRATIVE AND COMMUNITY FOCUSED INITIATIVES UNDERWAY IN OUR OFFICE AS A REPORT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND IN SOME CASES, THIS REPORT IS ABBREVIATED IN MY REPORT TO THE COMMISSION.

IT'S POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AT WWW.COAB.US/CITYMANAGER.

TREE PROTECTION CODE UPDATE. FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR DISCUSSION AT THE RECENT TOWN HALL, STAFF INTENDS TO PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE BY JUNE 8TH, FOCUSING ON THE IMMEDIATE PRESERVATION OF OUR OLD GROWTH MARITIME FORESTS, SPECIFICALLY ON OUR ICONIC LIVE OAKS.

THIS REPRESENTS THE FIRST PHASE OF A TWO PHASE APPROACH, WHICH INCLUDES AUTOMATICALLY DESIGNATED.

DESIGNATING ALL MARITIME TREES, PERHAPS LIMITED TO LIVE OAKS.

YOU ALL WILL DECIDE THAT ALONG THE WAY OVER A CERTAIN DBH, AS PROTECTED LANDMARK TREES AND ULTIMATELY, STAFF WILL NEED YOUR YOU TO DEFINE THIS SPECIFIC SIZE REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDMARK TREES.

WE REQUEST THAT THE CITY COMMISSION PROVIDE ANY ALTERNATE DIRECTION OR ALTERNATIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF BY YOUR MAY 26TH MEETING.

IF YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO PROCEED WITH A PLAN DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT I'VE JUST OUTLINED.

SO IF I MAY CLARIFY AGAIN. MAY 26TH, YOU'RE GOING TO PRESENT WHAT YOU'RE CALLING A DRAFT ORDINANCE BUT.

ACTUALLY WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'LL HAVE A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON MAY 26TH OR ON JUNE THE 8TH.

BUT BY MAY 26TH, IT'LL BE NICE TO GET DIRECTION FROM YOU IF IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.

SO, SO OUT OF FAIRNESS, SO THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOUR STAFF PUTS TOGETHER.

WELL BEFORE THAT, SO THAT I KNOW. I MEAN, ASSUMING THAT YOU BRING AN ORDINANCE, I DON'T WANT TO JUST PUNT ON IT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO CORRECT THINGS ON THE FLY SO.

I MIGHT NOT HAVE EXPLAINED MYSELF VERY WELL BY JUNE 8TH THERE WOULD BE A DRAFT OF AN ORDINANCE.

NOT AN ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION YET. IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BY MAY 26TH, WE WILL.

BUT BY JUNE 8TH, SOMETHING TO Y'ALL TO NOODLE ON.

SURE. AND THEN IF I GET YOU CORRECTLY, YOU'D LIKE TO WALK OUT OF THAT WITH ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES.

SO AGAIN, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT IT IN THE AGENDA, WE COULD AT LEAST BE PREPARED FOR THAT.

RIGHT ON. OKAY. PRECISELY. THANK YOU WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DEFINE AS THAT THOSE TREES THAT WE'RE PROTECTING? SO WE'VE SEEN FROM OTHER CITIES, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO PROTECT TREES THAT ARE 30" DBH OR GREATER.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER, BUT START, YOU KNOW, EDUCATING YOURSELF ON THAT AND GET READY FOR THAT DISCUSSION.

SO WOULD WE BE OPEN TO PROTECTING A SMALLER SIZE OF TREE? WE COULD. OKAY? I'M ASKING THAT WE NOT DO THAT.

AND THE REASON WHY IS I WANT TO PASS SOMETHING.

AND I THINK IF WE GET IN THE WEEDS ON EVERY TREE, SMALLER TREES, BIG TREES AND SO ON, I'M GOING TO WANT THAT TREE STUDY BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING. SO WE GOT A TREE STUDY THAT STILL WON'T BE DONE FOR MANY MONTHS.

AND OF COURSE, THE TREE STUDY THAT WON'T BE DONE IS FOR TREE.

WE LEARNED THAT THE. YEAH, WE LEARNED THAT AT THE RECENT WORKSHOP OR NOT WORKSHOP, BUT TOWN HALL THAT THOSE ARE ONLY THE TREES IN CITY RIGHTS OF WAY, NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT NONETHELESS, IT STILL INFORMS. SO I KIND OF, IN MY MIND, I ENVISIONED THAT WE DO A QUICK PASSAGE OF SOMETHING TO PROTECT TREES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE TREE ON 4TH STREET THAT IS THERE'S ACTUALLY SEVERAL ON THAT LOT THAT WE WERE INFORMED AT THE TOWN HALL THAT ASSUMINGLY, THE NEW OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, IS GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE HOUSE AND BUILD.

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AND THEN I THINK BRING ALL THE REST OF IT TOGETHER FOR A FINAL REWRITE OF CHAPTER 23 AT A LATER DATE.

THAT'S JUST MY THINKING. BUT HAVE AT IT YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER PROPOSALS.

28. 29 AND SO IS 30 THE RIGHT NUMBER FOR A DBH? I DON'T KNOW.

DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT. YES, MA'AM. SO JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DRAFT, POSSIBLY BY THE 26TH, IF NOT DEFINITELY BY JUNE 8TH.

THE DRAFT WE WILL NOT VOTE ON. WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAMMER OUT THE DETAILS.

SO COME READY ON NEXT COMMISSION MEETING AT CORRECT. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT.

STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE STAFF IS COLLABORATING WITH OUR CONSULTING PARTNER TO FINALIZE THE DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE STORMWATER MASTER PLAN UPDATE, WHICH IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL BRING THE SCOPE TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL BEFORE WE ISSUE AN RFP.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE THE PROJECT INVOLVES FEDERAL HMGP FUNDING, WE ANTICIPATE INITIATING A COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS VIA AN RFQ TO ENSURE FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE. THE CENTER IS ENTERING ITS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PHASE WITH THE J.HOWARD CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING WORK THIS WEEK ON PARKING LOT REPLACEMENT AND SITE CLEARING. THIS PHASE INCLUDES REMOVING OLD FENCING AND VEGETATION TO BETTER INTEGRATE THE CENTER WITH THE PARK.

THE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS ARE PRIMARILY FUNDED BY CDBG FUNDS AND ARE EXPECTED TO TAKE 60 TO 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE.

AND WHILE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION WRAPS UP, THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INTRODUCE A NEW COMMUNITY GARDEN.

IN PREPARATION FOR THE GRAND OPENING OF BOTH THE SEPTEMBER RESIDENTS WILL SOON BE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN WORKSHOPS TO HELP DEFINE THE PROGRAMING AND OPERATIONAL STRATEGY FOR THIS NEW FACILITY. MAY I ASK THOSE WORKSHOPS, DO WE HAVE LIKE A PER PROJECTED TIME WHEN THOSE WILL BE HELD? WE DON'T. I WILL COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMISSION OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND ENSURE, ESPECIALLY COMMISSIONER RING, THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE WORKSHOPS SO.

AND HOW WILL YOU DO THE INVITATION JUST THE SAME WAY, OR WILL THOSE IN THE AREA OF MARSH OAKS RECEIVE LIKE A PAPER INVITATION? I KNOW THAT WILL DIRECTLY NOTICE THE RESIDENTS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, BUT WE'LL BLITZ IT LIKE WE BLITZ THINGS THAT ARE OF MAJOR IMPORTANCE TO THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THROUGH ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS PLATFORMS. WILL THEY BE HELD HERE AT THE WORKSHOPS? YES.

OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. THANKS. IN OTHER REPORTS, FARMER'S MARKET OPERATOR STAFF HAS SUCCESSFULLY NEGOTIATED THE FRAMEWORK OF AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NONPROFIT DIG LOCAL NETWORK THAT IS SLATED TO BE PRESENTED FOR CITY COMMISSION CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. A SUCCESS STORY ON A MULTI-STATE MISSING PERSON RECOVERY.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SUCCESSFULLY LOCATED A MISSING ADULT RECENTLY FOLLOWING A MULTI-STATE, VERY COMPLEX SEARCH OPERATION. WE USED OUR FLOCK LICENSE PLATE READER TECHNOLOGY TO HELP BRING THIS PERSON TO SAFETY. THIS OUTCOME IS A TESTAMENT TO THE VITAL ROLE THAT THIS ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY AND ALSO INTERAGENCY COOPERATION PLAY IN ENSURING THE SAFETY OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS. JACK RUSSELL PARK COURT CLOSURES AND RESURFACING PROJECT.

WE HAVE WE ARE CLOSING THE BASKETBALL AND TENNIS COURTS AT JACK RUSSELL PARK.

JACK RUSSELL PARK'S TENNIS COURTS, 4 OF THE 6 COURTS WOULD BE CLOSED.

AND THE SCHEDULE IS IN THE REPORT. I'D LIKE TO NOTE A STAFF ACHIEVEMENT.

RECREATION ASSOCIATE VERONICA OUELLETTE WAS THE AMONG THE INAUGURAL COHORT OF PROFESSIONAL STATEWIDE TO EARN THIS CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATOR CREDENTIAL. VERONICA'S CREDENTIAL UNDERSCORES OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO ENSURING OUR RESIDENTS ARE WELL INFORMED AND THEIR VOICES ARE HEARD.

TWO UPCOMING THINGS ON THE CALENDAR. DANCING IN THE STREET THIS SATURDAY FROM 11:00 TO 09:00, IN BEACHES TOWN CENTER AND OUR COMMUNITY'S BEACHES WIDE MEMORIAL DAY CEREMONY AT 9:00 A.M.

ON MEMORIAL DAY. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

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YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

YES, COMMISSIONER. WE PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET BEFORE I THINK WE BUDGETED.

I'M GOING BACK IN TIME NOW TO ABOUT $100 GRAND PREVIOUSLY.

SO WOULD THIS BE A NEW BUDGET LINE OR WOULD WE BE REFERENCING THE OLD BUDGET? WE HAVE $100,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. AT FIRST GLANCE, THAT LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE A LITTLE SHORT TO, TO GET OUR, OUR PART OF THE PROJECT DONE, AND IF ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NEEDED, WE'LL COME TO YOU.

WE'LL COME TO YOU ANYWAY FOR APPROVAL BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY.

YOU ARE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION THAT WE CAN MOVE IT TO ACTUAL APPROVAL AND START WITHIN THIS FISCAL YEAR? YES. YEAH. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GRANT, IS THAT GOOD? SINCE YOU'RE NOW REPRESENTING ON BEACHES TOWN CENTER AGENCY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO CITY MANAGER RECRUITMENT UPDATE AND WE'LL OPEN IT WITH

[4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS ]

IF NOT, PROBABLY BY THE LATEST NEXT WEDNESDAY THAT SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE GRAPH AND SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING.

ONE OF THE UPDATES. KIND OF INTERESTING. IT AFFECTS US BECAUSE IT'S LOCAL.

SOME OF YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF THIS IS THAT JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, IT'LL ONLY TAKE ABOUT 30S.

FERNANDINA BEACH LOST THEIR CITY MANAGER AND THEY HIRED A SEARCH FIRM.

THAT SEARCH FIRM BROUGHT IN A CANDIDATE FROM TENNESSEE.

HE LASTED FIVE WEEKS UP THERE. THAT AFFECTS US BECAUSE THE ORANGE PARK CITY MANAGER MOVED TO FERNANDINA BEACH AND IS NOW CURRENTLY, BY ALL ACCOUNTS, DOING A GREAT JOB IN FERNANDINA BEACH, ORANGE PARK ORANGE PARK HIRED A SEARCH FIRM AND FOR A NEW CITY MANAGER AND LASTED 4 MONTHS.

AND THAT'S VERY RECENT. SO I ONLY MENTION THAT THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE ARE RELEVANT FACTS THAT AFFECT FLORIDA CITY MANAGERS, LOCAL CITY MANAGERS, AND COULD VERY WELL AFFECT US.

SO I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY GETTING THOSE NAMES INTO BOB.

THANKS. SO I GUESS I WASN'T CLEAR IN MY OWN MIND.

I WAS THINKING THAT WE WOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT OUR RANK ORDERING THIS MEETING SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE SOME INVITATIONS TO A SHORT LIST TO PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. BUT IF WE DO WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO CREATE A COME TO A CONSENSUS ON SHORT LIST AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH MEANS THE FOLLOWING MEETING WOULD BE WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO SOME INTERVIEWING.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, COMMISSIONER. I THOUGHT I REMEMBERED ASKING BOB TO COME BACK WITH SOME PARAMETERS, MAYBE BREAKING IT DOWN INTO A MATRIX OF I KNOW I THE NUMBERS THAT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME FROM 8 OUT OF 15 UNDER ONE CATEGORY. AND THEN THE STAFF NUMBERS, WHO WAS STAFF 1, 2 AND 3.

SO I THOUGHT BOB WAS HERE WHEN I ASKED FOR HIM TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO COMMENTS FROM EACH OF THE 3 EVALUATORS, AND MORE SO GIVING. I KNOW I READ THROUGH ALL THE PROPOSALS, BUT ALSO HAVING THEIR EXPERTISE OF READING THROUGH ALL THE PROPOSALS, AND THEN I. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TONIGHT.

YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU WERE CONVEYING, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HEARING ANYTHING DEFINITIVE ON THAT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO FAULT BOB ON THAT, BUT FOR, FOR HIS STAFF TO NOW TAKE THAT ON AND BE READY IN TWO WEEKS WITH COMMENTS ON ALL 7. DID WE HAVE 7? YEAH. DID WE HAVE 8? THAT'S A LOT OF WORK. I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARILY GOING TO HAPPEN.

DO YOU WANT TO STUDY THE MATRIX WHILE WE MOVE ON AND THEN COME BACK AND? IT'S FINE. IT'S FINE. I'M JUST READY TO.

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OH WELL. WELL, I THINK THEY DID PUBLISH THAT. WELL THEY, I GOT THE EMAIL.

BUT IN ANY CASE. YES. YEAH. WELL. IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT.

I COULD GIVE MY 3 TODAY. YEAH. BUT COULDN'T WE GO AHEAD AND AT LEAST NARROW IT TO 3 AND THEN GIVE IT TO HR INSTEAD OF GOING TO 7? TODAY? NARROW TO? NO NEXT FRIDAY. WE. FRIDAY OR WEDNESDAY. WE COULD DO THAT.

AND THAT WAY THEY WOULD HAVE A FINITE NUMBER THAT THEY COULD GO AHEAD AND BRIEF US ON.

AND AGAIN, THIS WILL EXTEND THE TIMELINE. BUT IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO? SO LET'S COME BACK AND, AND IDENTIFY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IF WE SEND THEM INFORMATION THIS WEEK. RIGHT.

WITH. ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT THEY COULD BE PREPARED TO TALK ON THAT? YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY NEED ANOTHER WEEK. OKAY.

ANALYZE THAT AND BRING IT BACK. I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE IMPORTANT DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO RUSH THIS, BUT I AM TRYING TO KEEP IT ON A TIMELINE.

INFORMATION, IS SO THAT WE CAN DISTILL DOWN TO A SHORT LIST, SO THAT WE CAN INVITE X NUMBER OF FIRMS. AND IT COULD BE 3, IT COULD BE 4 TO PRESENT VIA ZOOM OR TEAMS. SO NOW THAT'S GOING TO ADD EVEN ANOTHER MEETING IF WE'RE DOING THAT.

SO COMMISSIONER GO AHEAD. NO, I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE WHAT COMMISSIONER BOLE WAS SAYING.

IF WE EACH BRING 3, THEN WE COULD HAVE A BETTER NARROWED DOWN PRESENTATION FROM HR ON THOSE 3.

AT LEAST IF WE CAN'T HAVE IT ON ALL 8 SO. REMEMBER THAT HR HAS ALREADY RANKED THIS.

OKAY? THEY'VE ALREADY COME OUT. NOT. WHEN YOU SAY HR REMEMBER, IT'S A PROCUREMENT OFFICER, ETC. ETC. THOSE 3 PEOPLE, THEY'VE ALREADY RANKED THEM.

OKAY. BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INPUT TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE 3 THAT WE RANK, RIGHT? AND NOW WE WANT TO ANALYZE. THAT'S AT LEAST MY IMPRESSION.

SO, BUT HERE'S MY CHALLENGE ON THIS AGAIN, IS IF WE TELL THEM THIS AT THE NEXT MEETING, AND THEN THEY COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH INFORMATION THAT WE THEN ACT ON, IT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING MEETING BEFORE WE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE CANDIDATES ON THAT SCREEN THAT WE'RE TALKING TO.

SO NOW YOU'RE A MONTH AND A HALF FROM NOW AND YOU STILL HAVEN'T SELECTED A SEARCH FIRM SO THIS IS.

LET THEM COME IN THE NEXT MEETING. PUT IT ON THE SCREEN.

GO. HERE'S HOW YOU GUYS RANKED THEM, RIGHT? YOU RANKED A, B, AND C, IF A HAS 5 AND B HAS 3.

AND THEN WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN, AT LEAST TO THAT, IF NOT MY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S A PERSONAL THING, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY RANKED THEM. THEY'VE DONE THEIR ANALYSIS.

I RESPECT THE STAFF'S ANALYSIS. NOW WE'RE GOING TO INPUT TO THAT.

WE PUT THE BIG CHART. AND REMEMBER THIS IS NOT WHO WE'RE PICKING.

THIS IS THE FIRM. AND THE REASON I WENT TO THE HISTORY AROUND HERE THERE ARE FIRMS THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO KNOW LOCALLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH. SO WE EITHER DELAY IT ONE MEETING OR WE DELAY TWO MEETINGS, AT LEAST FROM WHERE I AM AT OKAY. SO WHAT'S TODAY'S DATE? THE 11TH. SO WHAT I'M HEARING, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THE SOONEST WE COULD SELECT OR THE SOONEST WE COULD INTERVIEW ANY OF THESE FIRMS IS THE SECOND MEETING OF JUNE.

WHY CAN'T WE INDIVIDUALLY INTERVIEW THESE FIRMS? WELL, RIGHT. THAT'S A THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WERE GOING TO INTERVIEW THEM AS A GROUP.

IT. COMMISSIONERS IS THAT A PREFERENCE TO INTERVIEW THEM INDIVIDUALLY? I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. I MEAN. I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT EITHER.

I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU MY, AND I WOULD.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY, BUT HAVE, HAVE EACH ONE OF THESE FOLKS COME IN SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO COME IN MULTIPLE TIMES TO TALK TO STAFF, TALK TO EACH ONE OF US. HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER CAN BE HERE.

GREAT. TO INTERVIEW THEM. AND IF YOU CAN'T BE THERE, YOU KNOW, LOG, YOU KNOW, LOG INTO A ZOOM CALL AND LISTEN AND ASK YOUR QUESTION THAT WAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY. NO YOU CAN'T.

OUTSIDE OF THIS NOTICED MEETING, WE CAN'T BRING US TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

YEAH. YOU COULD EACH INDIVIDUALLY ZOOM OR TEAMS MEETING ANY OF THESE, BUT YOU CAN'T.

OKAY. COME TOGETHER AS 3 OF US, 4 OF US OR FIVE OF US.

I'M HEARING TWO PEOPLE THAT DON'T EVEN NEED TO DO THIS.

I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM COMMISSIONER KELLY, BUT.

NO, I'M, I AGREE WITH A. COMMISSIONER RING. COMMISSIONER GRANT AND.

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NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT EVEN ONCE YOU SHORTLIST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SELECT ONE.

THEY'RE NOT. OH WELL, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY ACTUALLY HAVE GIVEN A NUMBER ONE RATING.

I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO INTERVIEW THEM, BUT AS I MENTIONED THE LAST MEETING, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE STAFF AT MINIMUM INTERVIEW THESE FOLKS, WHATEVER TOP 3 WE, WE DEEM OR DECIDE ON TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAY TO GO INSTEAD OF JUST USING THE NUMBERS.

THAT WAS MY POINT. AND I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THERE TO INTERVIEW THEM.

BUT I THINK AT MINIMUM STAFF SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU SHOULD WANT TO.

OKAY. SO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IS ALREADY OCCURRED AND IT'S VERY LITTLE MEANING SOME REFERENCES AND SO ON.

COMMISSIONER. YEAH. SO IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER GRANT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE EACH GIVE STAFF OUR 3 EITHER USING WHAT STAFF HAS ALREADY RANKED THEM AT OR IN OUR, OR OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS THAT WE'VE DRAWN FROM READING THE PROPOSALS AND THEN WE GIVE THEM ALL OF, WE GIVE STAFF OUR RANKING INDIVIDUALLY BY FRIDAY AND COME THE NEXT MEETING, WE HAVE EACH OF THEM RANKED.

SO WHATEVER SLAVIN GETS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE OTHER ONES GET, EACH OF THEM WILL BE RANKED BY US INDIVIDUALLY, OUR TOP 3. AND THEN THEY TAKE THOSE TOP 3 AND THEN THEY INTERVIEW THEM, STAFF INTERVIEWS THEM.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH YEAH BECAUSE I AM NOT FOR GOING. NO OFFENSE TO THE STAFF WHO INTERVIEWED THEM.

I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL THEIR TOP 3. WHAT ENDED UP BEING THEIR TOP 3 IS NOT MY.

TWO OF THEM WORKED, BUT ONE WAS NOT ON THERE.

OKAY. I NEED TO HEAR THAT SO YOUR INPUT WOULD BE OF VALUE HERE. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT.

IF. DO YOU HAVE CERTAIN QUESTIONS, LIKE FOR EACH OF THE FOLKS, THE SAME QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF THEM? NO. AND IF YOU DON'T, THEN THAT THIS WOULDN'T WORK.

BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU AGREED ON WHAT IT IS, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK EACH OF THEM THEN THAT WAY, EVEN IF IT WAS ONE COMMISSIONER ASKING THE QUESTIONS TO THEM, LIKE ON A ZOOM CALL.

COULD WE NOT RECORD THAT AND THEN SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY IF ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER IS INTERVIEWING THEM? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR JASON, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT.

SO COMMISSIONER THINK IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BUYING, YOU KNOW, LIGHT POLES, OKAY? WHERE WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT WE NEED. AND, YOU KNOW, I CAN SEE YOU DON'T NEED TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE TO BUY A LIGHT POLE, BUT THIS IS SORT OF A, A VERY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

AND I JUST CAN'T I'M JUST, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY THEY DON'T STAFF DOESN'T WANT TO INTERVIEW AND GET TO KNOW BETTER WHO THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH BEFORE THEY PULL THE TRIGGER ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS VERSUS JUST LOOKING AT A KPI REPORT OR NOT KPI, BUT DIFFERENT METRICS OF THEIR PROPOSAL AND SAY, OKAY, YOU'RE NUMBER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH YOU.

I MEAN, THAT JUST SEEMS VERY LAZY TO ME.

I KNOW THAT STAFF. THAT WAS A.

LET ME YEAH, LET ME HELP CLARIFY. I THINK STAFF DID WHAT THEY COULD DO WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF WE ACTUALLY OWN THIS, NOT STAFF. WE'RE KIND OF IN THAT PURGATORY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE UTILIZING STAFF TO DO A FUNCTION WHEN THIS ISN'T A STAFF DECISION, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVING US SOME PRETTY GOOD FEEDBACK.

BUT BY THE WAY THEY'RE BUSY, THEY'RE BUSY. SO WE NEED TO BE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO.

AND I NOTED IN LOOKING AT THE MATRIX THE ONE THING THAT WAS.

THAT WEIGHTED THE FINAL NUMBER, NUMERICAL NUMBER THAT GAVE THEIR RANKINGS OF 1, 02, 3, 4, AND SO ON.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT AFFECTED THE NUMBER WAS IF YOU DID BUSINESS WITH PLACEMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR IF THAT WAS YOUR PREDOMINANT BUSINESS, I FORGET WHICH IT HOW IT WAS STATED. SO IF YOU DIDN'T, YOU GOT A VERY LOW NUMBER AND THEREFORE YOUR NUMBER 6, 7 OR 8 ON THE LIST. AND THAT MAY BE PERFECTLY JUSTIFIED.

YES. THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. YES. OKAY. IF YOU LOOK AND YOU DO THE ANALYSIS AND YOU LOOK AT OUT OF STATE FIRMS.

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THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. WE DO OUR HOMEWORK.

OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD AS SAYING STAFF HAS DONE WHAT I BELIEVE IS A GOOD JOB.

I'M NOT HERE TO BE AT ALL CRITICAL. AND I RECALL MY COMMENT.

I DIDN'T MEAN. NO, NO, NO, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I. BUT I THINK WE COULD BE INSTRUCTIONAL BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING AND ASK THEM TO DO MORE.

REFERENCES. OKAY? AND ACTUALLY CALL SOME OF THE CITIES THAT HAD PLACEMENTS.

SO THEY, I KNOW ON SLAVIN OR I DON'T KNOW IF I PRONOUNCE IT SLAVIN OR SLAVIN, BUT ON THAT FIRM, THEY HAD SEVERAL REFERENCES OF PLACEMENTS THAT STILL WORK WITH THE CITY OR, OR ACTUALLY WITH WHATEVER CITY THEY PLACED.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ON ALL OF THE TOP 3 OR 4 CANDIDATES.

SO, MAYOR, MAYBE, MAYBE THIS. COULD WE GIVE BOB AN EMAIL FROM EACH ONE OF US WHO HAS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, ANALYSIS. LET'S GET THAT TO BOB THIS WEEK BY FRIDAY WITH ALONG WITH OUR PICKS AND SAY, HEY, BOB, LET'S YOU AS THE HR PROFESSIONAL, SORT THIS OUT, ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND HAVE HIM PREPARE EITHER A REPORT OR AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT BACK. SO IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF THEIR YOU KNOW, QUANTIFIABLE ATTRIBUTES THAT THEY WANT TO PUBLISH.

YEAH OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE SUGGESTION. COMMISSIONERS? JUST WONDERING. SO THEN WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT MAY 26TH? ARE WE LOOKING AT DECIDING OUT OF THE 3, THE TOP 3 THAT CAME ABOUT? WHO THE ONE IS? OR ARE WE LOOKING AT SETTING UP.

CONS, ETC. MAKE IT DEMOCRATIC, PUT IT OUT THERE, HAVE BOB IN HERE, HAVE A PROCUREMENT OFFICER IN HERE.

SO FRAMEWORK. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH MAKING THAT ATTEMPT.

IF WE HAVE ENOUGH ACTIONABLE INFORMATION, WE MIGHT MOVE FORWARD WITH A SELECTION, BUT THIS GROUP COULD ALSO VOTE TO PUNT FOR ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO DO ONE OF TWO THINGS, EITHER MORE INFORMATION OR ACTUALLY BRING IN FOR INTERVIEWS.

BUT LET'S GET IT ON THE AGENDA. LET'S SO I DO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, TALK TO OUR PROFESSIONALS, LET THEM TAKE A LOOK, ETC.

ETC. AND GET BACK TO US.

I DID LISTEN TO THE. WATCH THE MEETING AFTER THE FACT FROM YOUR LAST MEETING, AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A CLEAR CONSENSUS.

SO THAT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WOULD REITERATE AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE A CONSENSUS.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT GUIDANCE FROM DIFFERENT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

BOLE'S RECOMMENDATION THAT EACH OF US SENDS A EMAIL TO BOB WITH OUR ASKS, AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF IT IS REDUNDANT.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET MORE TESTIMONIALS FROM CITIES THAT HAVE PLACEMENTS FROM EACH OF OUR TOP 3 OR 4 FIRMS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GLAD WE USED X, Y, Z.

WE STILL HAVE THAT CITY MANAGER WORKING HERE OR THAT EMPLOYEE, WHATEVER LEVEL IT WAS, AND SO ON.

MAYOR? YES. TO THAT END. YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP GOOD POINTS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT FERNANDINA AND ORANGE PARK.

DO WE KNOW WHAT [INAUDIBLE] THEY USED? YEAH WE DO.

OKAY. AND I WILL TELL THAT TO BOB. OKAY, GOOD.

BUT ONE OTHER POINT COMMISSIONER GRANT BROUGHT UP.

WE HAVE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION IN THE BEACH CITIES.

NEPTUNE HAS GONE THROUGH THIS. JAX BEACH HAS GONE THROUGH THIS.

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BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A PUBLIC RECORD REQUEST. YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO TO EACH ONE OF THESE CITIES, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT BOB KNOWS THOSE COMPANIES BY NAME.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, DO WHATEVER YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE, BUT EACH ONE OF US, IT'S ON YOU.

IF YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO HR, TO BOB, THEN HE CAN ACT ON THAT.

WITH OUR 3. IT'S NOT SIMPLY YOUR 3, IT'S YOUR QUESTIONS.

YOU COULD HAVE 4 I'M NOT LIMITING IT. WE WE'RE NOT DECIDING ANYWAYS.

OKAY. PERSONALLY, I HAVE 4. [LAUGHTER] OKAY? YOU GO WITH YOUR 3.

BUT I WILL LET BOB KNOW WHAT MY QUESTIONS ARE AND WHAT I'D LIKE FOR HIM AND HIS STAFF TO ACCOMPLISH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT THE PART ABOUT EXPECTING BOB TO BE HERE, AND.

WE WANT BOB TO RESPOND AND IS THAT PART OF YOUR CONSENSUS? PART OF OUR CONSENSUS IS WE'RE GIVING BOB DIRECTION ON WHAT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW, BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT BETWEEN 5 COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY? SO HE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE BASED ON WHAT HE'S HEARING THROUGH FIVE EMAILS, ASSUMING HE GETS FIVE WHAT HE NEEDS TO WORK ON.

AND IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE DELIVERY OF THAT INFORMATION AT THE NEXT MEETING, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

OKAY. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? IF I COULD CLARIFY SOMETHING REAL QUICK.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE INDIVIDUAL INQUIRIES TO BOB WITH THE QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO MAYBE 3 OR 4 OF THE.

YES. OF THE VENDORS THAT EACH OF YOU CHOOSE. AND THAT'S FINE.

SO THEN BOB WILL GET THAT AND THEN HE WILL, I SUPPOSE, INQUIRE IN THAT TIME FRAME.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND TOO. SO BOB WILL THEN COME ON THE MAY 26TH MEETING.

YES. TO HOPEFULLY GIVE PUBLIC GIVE THE PUBLIC AND YOU INFORMATION BACK.

THAT WAS RELATIVE TO THOSE INQUIRIES, IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU GUYS WILL DECIDE WHAT'S NEXT.

ARE WE GOING TO. YES COMMISSIONER. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT DONNA JUST BROUGHT UP, THE INTERESTING THAT SHE WOULD ASK THAT IT'S NOT UP TO US TO SAY, BOB, COME. IT'S UP TO THIS GUY, THE CITY MANAGER, TO TELL HIS STAFF TO BE HERE OR NOT.

SO THAT WILL BE HIS CALL. CITY MANAGER. CERTAINLY.

THANKS. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THE 3RD PERSON ON THE PANEL TO COME? WELL, PATTY DRAKE. I WE WOULD, I WOULD. THANKS.

I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A PROBLEM FOR GETTING HERE. WON'T BE RELATED TO HER WORK.

I KNOW IT WON'T. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. JUST CONFIRM ONE THING.

YES. SO ARE WE NOT ASKING FOR BOB, TO COMPILE THE INFORMATION AND ACTUALLY PUT IT IN THE AGENDA PACKET? WELL, THANKS FOR ASKING BECAUSE THAT'S ON MY MIND TOO, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING FROM FIVE DIFFERENT EMAILS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SAY, BOB, THIS IS YOUR DIRECTION.

HE, HE CAN'T NECESSARILY COVER EVERYTHING. BUT WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK.

I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY DON'T WANT TO DIRECT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A PART OF THIS PROCESS HE'S HEARING FROM THE FIVE EMAILS AND BRING US SOME INFORMATION PRE-PREPARED THAT CAN BE IN THE AGENDA.

IF THERE'S IF ALL 4 OR 5 OF US ASK FOR THE SAME THING, THEN THERE'S NO REASON WHY THAT CAN'T BE SUPPLIED IN THE AGENDA.

OR ON A LEGAL STANDPOINT OF THAT. WOULD THAT BE OKAY IF HE COMPILES THEIR INPUT AND PUT IT IN THE PACKET? YES, HE CAN DO THAT HE CAN AGGREGATE THOSE. YEAH. AND THEN PUT IT IN THE PACKET.

YOU KNOW ONE TIME FOR EVERYONE TO CONSUME AT THE SAME TIME AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.

WE JUST DON'T WANT INFORMATION GOING BETWEEN COMMISSIONERS IN THE MEANTIME. OKAY.

I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS WHERE YOU WERE GOING WHEN YOU WERE ASKING THE INITIAL QUESTION. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND ONE THING I WILL ASK, BOB, IS FOR HIM TO WATCH THIS MEETING SO THAT HE GETS THE FLAVOR OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S GOING THROUGH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER.

OH I'M GOOD. YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. OR DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? THANK GOD YES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER KELLY.

OKAY. SO THANK YOU, KEVIN, FOR PUBLISHING THE PROPOSED CAMP SCHEDULES.

I KNOW THAT I SAW SOMEBODY CALL IN AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT ONE, TOO.

SO I THINK AS, AS EVERY PARENT NEEDS TO KNOW THE CAMP SCHEDULES SO THEY CAN GET RID OF THEIR, I MEAN, KEEP THEIR KIDS ENTERTAINED THROUGH THE SUMMER.

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SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE JULY 4TH AS THE DAY IT WAS WRITTEN THE FIRST TIME SOMEBODY WENT OUTSIDE AND READ IT TO THE WORLD WAS ON 8TH JULY.

SO SINCE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING A PARTY ON THE 11TH, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE DO THAT ON THAT DAY AND MAYBE HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO INDIVIDUAL PARTS SO PEOPLE COULD TAKE TURNS READING THE LIST OF GRIEVANCES.

TO THIS. THIS WILL BE THE ATLANTIC BEACH COMMISSIONERS ACT I.

ARE YOU THE DIRECTOR? I CAN DO THAT YEAH. I'M GOOD AT TELLING PEOPLE WHERE.

OKAY. ARE YOU IN? I'LL READ A BIT? YEAH. THERE'S THE AND THE GRIEVANCES ARE SOMETIMES THEY'RE ETERNAL, [LAUGHTER] SO.

OKAY. TAKE A LOOK AT THEM. AND ONE QUESTION FOR JASON.

ARE WE GOING TO CITY HALL SOON? I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT FOR MY BRILLIANT, YOU KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY'S PRESENTATION LATER.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I DID CONTACT THE CITY ETHICS OFFICE.

AND ACTUALLY THEY HAVE NOT PLANNED A DATE YET.

THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO COORDINATE THAT, SO I ASKED THEM TO LET ME KNOW IMMEDIATELY THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO DATE SET JUST YET.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO, AREN'T WE? WELL, [LAUGHTER] WELL, SO WE'LL PROVIDE OTHER TOOLS FROM FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MAKE YOUR FOR, YOU KNOW, THE FOR CREDIT HOURS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT IT'S ON MY RADAR THOUGH, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEETING I'LL CERTAINLY LET YOU KNOW IT'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY THAT IT MAY NOT BE IN JUNE AND IT MAY ACTUALLY BE IN THE FALL.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T HELP YOU FOR PURPOSES OF YOUR FILING YOU KNOW, PROGRAM IN CASE YOU WANTED TO GO. SO IT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR.

OKAY. WELL, THAT WAS NOT HELPFUL. [LAUGHTER].

THAT'S ON CITY OF JACKSONVILLE YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT I THOUGHT THE TOWN HALL MEETING WAS NOT THAT THEY AREN'T ALWAYS, BUT IT WENT REALLY WELL LISTENING TO CITY STAFF ALONG WITH CITIZENS, THEY CAME WITH NOT JUST THEIR CONCERNS, BUT TRUE IMPLEMENTATION OF SOLUTIONS. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A BEAUTIFUL REPRESENTATION OF WHY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS MATTER, YOU KNOW. WHY THEY'RE IMPORTANT, WHY WE SUPPORT LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TRY TO DO THAT IN TALLAHASSEE DURING STATE LEGISLATION WEEK.

AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GET TO THE ELEVATOR BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE.

SO I JUST APPRECIATED THAT. AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD DAY FOR OUR CITY.

ALSO, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR JASON WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DUE DATES FORMS, THE FINANCIAL FORM [INAUDIBLE] SHOULD BE DUE SOON.

SHOULD BE THAT INFORMATION BE COMING UP? YES.

THOSE ARE TYPICALLY DUE BY JULY 1ST. I THINK THERE'S A GRACE PERIOD AFTERWARDS.

YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING THIS ALL DIGITAL NOW, SO YOU SHOULD BE RECEIVING AN EMAIL IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.

HAVEN'T. YEAH. I, AND I GET ONE TOO. SO I HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT EITHER.

BUT THAT YOU KNOW, WE ARE MAY 11TH. SO THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE FORTHCOMING.

I'LL CHECK WITH THE STATE ETHICS COMMISSION JUST TO SEE WHEN WE ANTICIPATE THAT.

BUT I WOULD THINK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE GETTING SOMETHING. OKAY THANK YOU.

WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT. GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH. THANK YOU.

GOOD. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONER GRANT. YEAH. A COUPLE THINGS.

BEACH TOWN CENTER AGENCY TALKING ABOUT THE STREET LIGHTS.

I THINK THE DELTA IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 60 GRAND BETWEEN WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL OVER THE 100 IS KIND OF THE NUMBER I KEEP.

I'LL MAKE SURE THEY DIAL THAT IN AND MAKE SURE IF THEY HAVEN'T FORMALLY PRESENT IT TO YOU.

MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO THAT. YOU DID MENTION DANCING THE STREETS.

THAT IS THIS WEEKEND. THEY'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THIS DIFFERENT DRINK STATIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE HERE. I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN. DAUGHTER'S GRADUATING COLLEGE, SO I'LL BE IN BATON ROUGE FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD TIME.

AND THEN KEVIN AND I SPOKE ABOUT THIS, SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBORS BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS ETC. SO WE, WE FOUND AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE, IN THE CITY YARD.

WE HAVE BEEN DUMPING LOTS OF AGGREGATE AND STONE AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

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AND INSTEAD OF STACKING SOME OF THESE PILES SO HIGH, JUST KNOCK THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL.

AND THEN FROM THAT, YOU, YOU GOTTA KEEP THEM UNDER THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKE TWO PILES TO THE ONE.

SO HE WAS IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL SOLVE THE ISSUE.

BUT I DO THINK THERE'S ALSO CONCERN THAT OVER THE YEARS, THE BASE LEVEL FOR THE FOR THE YARD HAS CONTINUED TO GROW OF WELL ABOVE. GREAT. AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THAT TO, TO COMMENT ON IT.

I HAVE SOME WORK TO DO. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND YEAH, WE, WE NEED TO BE AS GOOD NEIGHBOR AS WE CAN BE TO THOSE FOLKS.

AND IT DID, IT DID. REPORT BACK OUT TO YOU AFTER, AFTER WE.

YOU SEE LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS BIG DROP AND YOU'VE GOT THE, THE DRAINAGE ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT, THAT NORTH PORTION OF THE YARD. IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED HERE? HOW IS IT, HOW DID IT CONTINUE TO GROW? WELL ABOVE.

SO ANYTHING YOU PUT IN THERE IS NOW FAIRLY VISIBLE TO, TO OUR NEIGHBORS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS.

SO ANYWAY, I'LL LOOK FOR YOU TO. AND I WILL REPORT BACK OUT TO YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S IT, THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. IN FACT, PROBABLY ALMOST ALWAYS.

SO A MINOR ONE, BUT IT'S WORTHY OF, OF DISCUSSING IS PEOPLE THAT WANT TO REPAIR OR REPLACE THEIR DRIVEWAYS.

IF THEY ARE OVER 20FT AT THE STREET IN WIDTH, THEY CANNOT DO IT BECAUSE WE REDUCED IT FROM A MAXIMUM OF 22FT DOWN TO 20FT IN 2024. AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I WAS IN MR. HOGENCAMP OFFICE TODAY AND WE CALLED A CITIZEN THAT WAS NOT COMPLAINING, BUT INQUIRING BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE HAS.

SO SHE HAS A, A DRIVEWAY THAT'S 21.7FT WIDE, AND IT MATCHES UP TO THE ENTRANCE TO THE DOUBLE CAR GARAGE.

AND SHE WANTS TO KEEP THAT WITH WHICH SHE CAN DO WHEN IT'S THAT WIDTH FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO HER GARAGE, BUT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY EDGE THAT THE CITY HAS TO THE PAVEMENT CANNOT BE MORE THAN 20FT, SO IT HAS TO STEP DOWN. IT'S A IT'S A STUPID LOOK.

AND WHAT IT WHAT IT MAY END UP CAUSING HERE IS FOR HER TO LEAVE THE BROKEN CONCRETE IN THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S PART OF HER DRIVE BECAUSE SHE CAN'T. IF SHE REDUCES.

IF SHE REPAIRS IT, SHE. SHE HAS TO NARROW DOWN.

ANYWAYS, I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. HOGENCAMP WITH CONSENSUS TO ASK STAFF TO GIVE YOU A REPORT BACK ON WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE THERE.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE IF A CITIZEN WAS EITHER IMPACTED BY THE THE WIDTH CONSTRAINT OR IMPACTED BY A LOT COVERAGE CONSTRAINT, BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER WITHIN OUR LOT COVERAGE TOLERANCES THAT WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION USING OUR KNOWLEDGE OF PERMEABLE PAVERS AND TAKING INTO ACCOUNT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

SO IF SOMEBODY TOOK A SOLID CONCRETE DRIVEWAY AND REPAIRED IT WITH PERMEABLE PAVERS, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD DEED FOR THE CITY AS WELL AS THEMSELVES.

AND SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE MIGHT DISCUSS AND ACT ON AS A BODY.

WE WILL LOOK AT THIS WITH EYES WIDE OPEN, OURSELVES AND THE RESIDENTS OR PROPERTY OWNERS TO CHOOSE AS WE EVALUATE WHETHER THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES.

ARE YOU ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? I AM, I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE APPROVED PAVERS AND RIGHT OF WAYS TO HELP OUR PARKING SITUATION IT WOULD SEEM EXTREMELY LOGICAL TO LET THEM KEEP WHATEVER WIDTH, YOU KNOW, THEIR CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS.

BUT AT THAT RIGHT.

THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY INTERESTING. USE THE PERMEABLE PAVERS AND IT SEEMS LIKE A WIN WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

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KEVIN, WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH THAT, WOULD THAT BE A YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TONIGHT, BUT WOULD THAT BE A CHANGE IN THE CODE? JUST YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT YEAH. MAYBE NOT. MAYBE NOT. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. I'M GOING TO MOVE NOW ON THE AGENDA TO ITEM 4.B.

AND IS THIS GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO DONNA AND LADAYIJA? IT, IT IS. YES. YEAH. OKAY. SO DONNA AND LADAYIJA, WE'RE GOING TO DO A PHOTO OP AS SOON AS I FINISH READING THIS.

THIS IS A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH IN RECOGNITION OF PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK.

WHEREAS THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK, A TIME HONORED AND VITAL PART OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, EXISTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND WHEREAS, THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK IS THE OLDEST AMONG PUBLIC SERVANTS, AND WHEREAS, THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK PROVIDES THE PROFESSIONAL LINK BETWEEN THE CITIZENS, THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES AND AGENCIES OF GOVERNMENT AT OTHER LEVELS.

AND WHEREAS THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS HAVE PLEDGED TO BE EVER MINDFUL OF THEIR NEUTRALITY AND IMPARTIALITY, RENDERING EQUAL SERVICE TO ALL. AND WHEREAS, THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK SERVES AS THE INFORMATION CENTER ON FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS, PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS CONTINUALLY STRIVE TO IMPROVE THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE AFFAIRS OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERK THROUGH PARTICIPATION AND EDUCATION PROGRAMS, SEMINARS, WORKSHOPS AND THE ANNUAL MEETINGS OF THEIR STATE, PROVINCIAL, COUNTY AND INTERNATIONAL PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.

AND WHEREAS IT IS MOST. IS THE. IT IS MOST APPROPRIATE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE OFFICE OF THE PROFESSIONAL.

OH MY. MUNICIPAL CLERK. NOW, THEREFORE, I CURTIS FORD, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY VESTED IN ME AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 3RD THROUGH MAY 9TH, 2026 AS PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND FURTHER EXTEND APPRECIATION TO OUR PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS, DONNA BARTLE AND LADAYIJA NICHOLS, AND TO ALL PROFESSIONAL MUNICIPAL CLERKS FOR THE VITAL SERVICES THEY PERFORM AND THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THE COMMUNITIES THEY REPRESENT.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE OFFICIAL SEAL OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO BE AFFIXED THIS 11TH DAY OF MAY 2026.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND IF I CAN GET A PHOTO OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO ITEM 4.C. IT'S ANOTHER PROCLAMATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THIS ONE, BUT I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S THE NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK.

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION WHICH WE WILL PRESENT TO THE REQUESTER ON THAT.

SAFE BOATING IS IMPORTANT. AND ESPECIALLY IN A CITY LIKE ATLANTIC BEACH WITH AN OCEAN AND AN INTRACOASTAL AND TECHNICALLY THE RIVER AS WELL. MOVING TO. WELL, WE ALREADY DID OUR COMMISSIONERS.

OKAY, SO WE'RE DONE. PARDON? YEAH. WE'LL MOVE TO CONSENT.

[6. CONSENT AGENDA ]

THIS ITEM. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THIS ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY.

SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM AND THE ITEM IS.

6.A APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-63. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 26-63. SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE.

AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO ITEM 8.

[8.A. RESOLUTION NO. 26-69 ]

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF

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MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU, MAYOR FORD. IN PREVIOUS EMERGENCIES, COJ HAS ALLOWED THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH TO UTILIZE THE GIRVIN ROAD LANDFILL FOR DEBRIS MANAGEMENT. WE'VE DONE THIS JUST BY GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT UNOFFICIALLY.

THERE'S A NEW STATE LAW THAT REQUIRES SUCH AN AGREEMENT TO BE CODIFIED.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO THAT IN TERMS OF PASSING THIS RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MOU WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FOR DISASTER DEBRIS MANAGEMENT SITE USAGE. MOTION? MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WE ADOPT 26-69.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH AYE. AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM 11.

CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR REPORT. I HAVE NOTHING TO REPORT.

I'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THE, THE ONE ISSUE I DID HAVE.

THANK YOU. CITY CLERK. I HAVE ANYTHING OKAY. WE'LL START AT THIS END. COMMISSIONER RING.

NOTHING. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GRANT. NO. NOTHING.

COMMISSIONER BOLE. NADA. OH, MY. COMMISSIONER KELLY.

NADA. OH, MY. OKAY. CITY MANAGER. OKAY, I'M GOING TO KEEP IT CLEAN.

AND I HAVE NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO ADD EITHER. AND SO IF THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.