DONNA, ARE WE READY? WE ARE. OKAY. WELCOME. RESIDENTS,
NEIGHBORS AND GUESTS. 
          [CALL TO ORDER ]
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BEFORE I OPEN THIS MEETING, WE'LL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION AND A PLEDGE LIST LED BY
COMMISSIONER RING. 
          HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL AUGUST DAY IN ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROTECTION AND YOUR PROVISION OVER OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFF AND
OUR PEOPLE. 
          FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOUR SPIRIT REST UPON US TONIGHT,
THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH US IN OUR DELIBERATIONS AND OUR DISCUSSIONS. 
          FATHER, THAT WE WOULD HEAR THE PEOPLE CLEARLY. 
          IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE,
WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER RING. THIS CITY COMMISSION MEETING OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, DATED AUGUST 10TH, 2026 WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. 
          LET'S SEE. DONNA, CAN WE DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER BOLE. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GRANT. 
          PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KELLY. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER RING. 
          PRESENT. MAYOR FORD. PRESENT. THANK YOU DONNA. 
          WE'LL MOVE DIRECTLY INTO THE AGENDA ITEM ONE,
SPECIFICALLY 1A APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON 
          [1. APPROVAL OF MINUTES   ]
JULY 13TH, 2026. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES? HEARING NONE. THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED. 
          ITEM ONE BE APPROVED. MINUTES OF THE TOWN HALL HELD ON JULY 18TH,
2026. 
          ANY CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES THERE? HEARING NONE. 
          THE MINUTES STAND AS PRESENTED AND THEN FINALLY 1C APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE BUDGET
WORKSHOP HELD ON JULY 20TH, 2026. ANY CORRECTIONS TO THESE MINUTES? HEARING NONE,
THEY WILL STAND AS SUBMITTED. 
          [2. COURTESY OF FLOOR TO VISITORS  ]
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM TWO, COURTESY OF THE FLOOR TO VISITORS. 
          IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY FILLED OUT A CARD, GO AHEAD AND DO IT. 
          IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AND PRESENT IT TO DONNA AT THE END OF THE DAIS. 
          TODAY HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? DONNA? SIX. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON HERE. 
          I THINK WE'VE BEEN RUNNING PRETTY GOOD AT THREE MINUTES,
SO WE'LL HOLD TO THREE MINUTES TODAY. 
          AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOUR FIRST CONTESTANT. JOE WHEATLEY. 
          YEAH. HI. GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT SURE IT'S 6:00. 
          WHAT IT IS. THE REASON I'M HERE IS I WANTED TO ADDRESS A TREE ISSUE. 
          I KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND ON. 
          I WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE LAST MEETING. PERSONAL REASONS. 
          I DID REVIEW THE VIDEO AND I CONCUR WITH MOST EVERY SPEAKER SOME DEGREE. 
          NOW IT'S MY PERSONAL THOUGHT THAT DEVELOPERS COME INTO ATLANTIC BEACH RAPED OLD GROWTH
TREES. 
          MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE THE LITTLE FRONT APPENDAGE CONSIDERED REMOVAL,
MUCH LIKE THE IRREPLACEABLE TREES DRIPPING FROM THE EARTH. 
          A BIT DRACONIAN, BUT SO ARE THE REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO MY HOUSE. 
          WE'VE BEEN THERE 40 YEARS. WE HAVE OLD GROWTH. 
          WE WENT TO PAINS TO KEEP THE OLD GROWTH TREES THERE 40 YEARS INTO IT. 
          WE HAVE PALM TREES THAT ARE AT LEAST 40, 60,
MAYBE 100 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT WE HAVE TREES THAT ARE POISED TO DROP ON OUR HOUSE ANYTIME I CONSIDER A TREE,
I HAVE TO GET PEOPLE IN THERE. 
          IT COST ME A LOT OF MONEY YEARS AGO. THERE'S A GUY WHO,
WHEN HE WASN'T IN JAIL, HE RODE HIS BICYCLE AROUND, HAD A CHAINSAW ATTACHED TO IT. HE'D COME, HE'D CUT YOUR TREES AND,
YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW. 
          AND WE MAINTAINED A LOT OF TREES. I MEAN, USING THIS GUY,
IT WAS GREAT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY HE'S GONE. THE CURRENT GUYS WANT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. 
          THE PERMITTING PROCESS. THEY WANT ME TO NAME THE TREE. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TREES WE HAVE ON OUR PROPERTY. 
          I COULDN'T NAME THEM. I'D HAVE TO GET A TREE EXPERT AND PAY HIM MORE MONEY. 
          THE MITIGATION. PLANNING. WE HAVE NO ROOM TO PLANT MORE TREES. 
          WE HAVE TOO MUCH SHADE. WE, THE TREES SIMPLY WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE. 
          AND THEY WOULDN'T GROW BECAUSE THE SHADE WE HAVE,
YOU KNOW, WE ARE YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN. 
          YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS CUTTING OLD GROWTH TREES TO ME AND COMPLETELY IMMORAL SHOULD NOT BE
DONE AT ANY PRICE. 
          IF YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. $100,000 A TREE,
MAKE IT REALLY, REALLY HURT. 
          IF NOT, SIMPLY TELL THEM, NO, YOU CANNOT DO IT SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BUILD A
BUILDING. 
          THE TREE STAYS. BUILD A TREE HOUSE, I DON'T CARE. 
          THE, A LOT OF THE FOLKS WHO TALK ABOUT THE TREES THAT THEY A WHILE BACK,
THE STREET COMMITTEE PEOPLE, BUT MOST EVERY ONE OF THEM HAD A FEW WEEDS IN THE YARD CALLED PALM TREES,
THAT IF A HURRICANE CAME, I WOULDN'T TOUCH THEIR HOUSE. I'M NOT LIKE THAT. 
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MANY PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NOT LIKE THAT. PLEASE CONSIDER THE WHOLE PICTURE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO COME UP WITH A PROBLEM WITH A SOLUTION. 
          BIFURCATE. TREAT PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY. TREAT EXISTING HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE TREES THAT MAY
ENDANGER THE HOUSE DIFFERENTLY THAN DEVELOPERS THAT COME ALONG AND JUST WANT TO RIP THEIR PROPERTIES. SINCE I HAVE 36 SECONDS LEFT PLAZA IN MAYPORT,
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING $9 MILLION, PROBABLY MORE ON SHORTENING MAYPORT ROAD, PROBABLY PEOPLE,
MORE PEOPLE SQUEEZE THEIR RED LIGHT, MAKE IT MORE DANGEROUS. WE KNOW A LADY WHO WAS HIT. 
          ACTUALLY, WE SPOKE AT LUNCH. WE HAD LUNCH WITH A LADY WHO REPORTED THE ACCIDENT. 
          AND IT'S THAT INTERSECTION HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOREVER. 
          WE'VE COME UP A DIME, PROBABLY $10 MILLION TO TO TO BICYCLE PATH TO NOWHERE. 
          CAN'T WE FIND THE MONEY TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION SAFE? IT JUST SEEMS THAT THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. THANK YOU. 
          AND I'M GOING TO PREVENT THIS. OKAY. MR. WHEATLEY,
YOU CAN'T. 
          YOU CAN'T SPEAK TO THE AUDIENCE. YOU GOTTA SPEAK TO US. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WHEATLEY. MY APOLOGIES,
I MISSPOKE. 
          HIS NAME IS JIM WHEATLEY. YES. THANK YOU. HE'S KNOWN FAR AND WIDE. 
          NEXT JEN LAGNER. 
          GOOD EVENING, I'M JEN WAGNER. MY ADDRESS IS ON RECORD. 
          THE ONLY TWO ITEMS I WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON TODAY WAS. FIRST IS THE DG MARKET. 
          THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA. THERE IS A FOOD DESERT OUT THERE,
AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP THE FAMILIES OUT THERE HAVE ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD THAT THEY DESPERATELY NEED AND ALSO WILL PROBABLY WILL
CREATE A FEW JOBS. 
          THE OTHER IS THE MILLAGE RATE. SO REGARDING THAT,
IF THE COMMISSION DOES DECIDE TO APPROVE A RATE HIGHER THAN THE ROLLBACK RATE, IT'S ENCOURAGED TO USE THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE. I THINK IT'S ABOUT 630 000 TO PAY OFF SOME
DEBT, AS OPPOSED TO GETTING SOME SHINY NEW TOYS THAT WE ALL LOVE,
BECAUSE BEING DEBT FREE IS REALLY PRUDENT FOR ALL OF OUR TAXPAYERS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WAGNER. DOUG CONKEY. 
          775 777 BAYMEADOWS ROAD, JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA WITH THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT
DISTRICT. 
          I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A SHORT UPDATE SINCE YOU KNOW,
WE'VE HAD SOME RAINS HELPING THE GRASS GROW GREEN, GET THE MOWERS OUT. HOPEFULLY IT'S HELPING REDUCE PEOPLE'S NEED TO FEEL,
USE IRRIGATION OR FILL THEIR, KEEP FILLING THEIR POOLS WITH WATER EVEN THOUGH IT IS HOT AND HUMID. 
          BUT THE SITUATION ACTUALLY BELOW OUR FEET, ABOUT 400FT,
WHERE WE'RE GETTING OUR, OUR DRINKING WATER IS MUCH MORE DIRE THAN MOST PEOPLE THINK. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OUR MOJO IN INTENSITY TOWARDS WATER CONSERVATION AND
UNDERSTAND THE DIRE POSITION THAT WE DO FIND OURSELVES IN. 
          I MEAN, WE ARE GETTING IS NICE, BUT IT IS NOT MEETING THE NEED OF FILLING THE AQUIFER. 
          A GOOD STAT IS TO THINK DURING THE MONTH OF JULY,
ON AVERAGE, WE ARE EVAPORATING OVER FIVE INCHES OF RAIN. 
          SO IF YOU SAY I GET SEVEN INCHES OF RAIN, THAT'S ONLY A NET OF TWO. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY NOT DOING MUCH MORE THAN MAYBE PUTTING A LITTLE EXTRA WATER IN THE
PONDS, THE STORMWATER POND, GREENING UP THE GRASS. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE FIRST CHART,
WHICH COMES OFF, WE ARE CONSTANTLY MONITORING. 
          YOU CAN SEE ON THE TOP SLIDE THAT IS FROM JULY 15TH TO AUGUST 6TH,
YOU CAN SEE THE AQUIFER IS GETTING WORSE, ESPECIALLY UP IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA. AND WHAT'S MORE POIGNANT IS WHEN YOU GO DOWN,
WE ACTUALLY PUT A NUMBER ON A SCALE OF 0 TO 100 ON WHERE THE AQUIFER IS FROM OUR WELLS IN EACH COUNTY. BAKER OBVIOUSLY IS BAD. 
          NASA IS BAD. DUVAL IS BAD AT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU PUT THIS AS A NEEDLE ON YOUR GAS
GAUGE IN THE CAR, YOU ARE FRANTICALLY LOOKING FOR A GAS PUMP RIGHT ABOUT NOW. 
          OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T DO THAT. WE NEED MOTHER NATURE,
SO WE NEED TO TRAIN PEOPLE. 
          AND IF I PUT IT ON A SCALE OF HOW MUCH WATER DO WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY NEED TO GET OUT OF
THIS DROUGHT? THAT'S THE NEXT PAGE. AND YOU CAN SEE FOR THE UPPER TIER OF FLORIDA WHERE WE ARE OVER 30IN
OF RAIN. 
          SO OVER PROBABLY ABOUT A THREE MONTH PERIOD,
SO WE CAN GET SOME GOOD REPLENISHMENT OF THE AQUIFER. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR ATTENTION AS YOU ARE GREAT LEADERS IN THE
ENVIRONMENTAL, AS ARE YOUR CITIZENS IN PRESERVING THAT ENVIRONMENTAL. 
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AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH RAIN THAT THE BLACK CREEK RESOURCE PROJECT IS
ACTUALLY RELEASING WATER INTO ALLIGATOR CREEK AND INTO LAKE BROOKLYN TO HELP RECHARGE. 
          SO THAT IS A GREAT THING. BUT STILL MORE ATTENTION. 
          AND I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS ONE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MR. BRINKLEY HARRELL. 
          GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, STAFF. Y'ALL PROBABLY THINK I'M GOING TO GET UP HERE TO
TALK ABOUT MILLAGE RATES AND BUDGETS. 
          BUT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN FROM SEMINOLE ROAD ON TO
STURTEVANT AND THE LENGTH OF STURTEVANT TO SEE THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY'RE DOING TO PUT IN A MULTI-USE SIDEWALK? IT IS AWESOME. WAY PAST DUE. DON'T KNOW WHY IT TOOK US THIS LONG,
BUT IT IS A VERY, VERY GOOD JOB. 
          I RIDE MY BIKE DOWN THERE EVERY DAY JUST TO SEE WHAT THE PROGRESS WAS THEY MAKE ON A DAY
TO DAY BASIS. 
          WELL, BECAUSE I HAVE THAT KIND OF TIME. BUT REALLY VERY SOON THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO START
WORKING ON THE SECTION OF AHERN STREET BETWEEN EAST COAST DRIVE AND OCEAN BOULEVARD THAT I EXPECT TO BE AN EQUALLY AMAZING PROJECT. 
          BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT WITHOUT SAYING WE REALLY DO NEED A FOUR WAY STOP AT THAT
INTERSECTION. 
          IT'S THE ONLY INTERSECTION FOR BLOCKS AROUND THAT DOES NOT HAVE A FOUR WAY STOP. 
          AND WITH THE GRAND AT NUMBER 42 EAST COAST DRIVE,
THE NEW THREE STORY BUILDING, THERE IT IS. 
          THERE'S IT'S JUST WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO GET RUN OVER THERE AFTER DARK BECAUSE CARS TURN
THE CORNER OFF OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD ON THE EAST COAST, AND THEY THINK IT THEY CAN HIGHBALL STRAIGHT DOWN THERE. 
          AND YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE JAYWALKING LIKE CRAZY BECAUSE IT'S NOT A FOUR WAY STOP. 
          SO WITH THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, YES, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT BUDGET MILLAGE RATES. 
          YOU'LL SEE ON ITEM EIGHT, CHARLIE, I BELIEVE IT IS THE FORM DR 420 THAT COMES FROM THE
DUVAL COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT MILLAGE RATES AND THIS AND THAT AND TOTAL TAX,
TAX ASSESSED VALUES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. 
          AND WHAT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE IS, WHICH IS THE SAME MILLAGE RATE THAT WE USED LAST
YEAR. 
          NOW, KEEP IN MIND, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE ROLLBACK RATE IS A TAX INCREASE OF ABOUT
$700,000. 
          NOW, INTERESTINGLY, WITH THE REFERENDUM COMING UP IN NOVEMBER,
THAT WILL GREATLY INCREASE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH HASN'T BEEN CHANGED IN OVER 25 YEARS. I THINK IT IS FROM THE CURRENT 50,000 UP TO
$250,000. 
          NOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE A NET EFFECT ON ON OUR BUDGET BY ABOUT $1.1 MILLION. 
          SO WE NEED TO START NOW. IF YOU USE A ROLLBACK RATE NOW,
THAT'S ROUGHLY $700,000 LESS SPENDING THIS YEAR. 
          AND IF YOU USE ROLLBACK RATE AGAIN NEXT YEAR,
THAT WILL BE ANOTHER $700,000. 
          BOOM. WE'VE JUST MADE UP FOR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS REFERENDUM. 
          THAT IS SURE TO PASS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A HIGHER HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION RATE
AND PAY FEWER TAXES. 
          BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON, FROM 2024 TO 2026,
OUR TAX REVENUES BASED ON THE MILLAGE RATES THAT WERE USED, RATE INCREASED REVENUES WAS $1.2 MILLION OVER A TWO YEAR PERIOD,
2024 TO 2026. 
          FOUR OF Y'ALL WHO'S WHO I CAN TEXT TO. I SENT YOU MY GRAPHICS THIS CHART,
AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SHARE IT WITH THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE IT QUITE YET. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HARRELL. DOCTOR NANCY STOTTS. 
          GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF MEMBERS. 
          FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK COMMISSIONER RING FOR HAVING THE COURAGE TO REVISIT A DECISION
THAT WAS MADE BY FOUR OF THE FIVE PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, NAMELY THE DECREASE IN MINIMUM LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT FROM 75FT TO 40FT IN ONE PART OF TOWN
AND TO 50FT IN A DIFFERENT PART OF TOWN. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND FOLKS THAT WE STILL HAVE NOT ANSWERED SOME OF THE KEY QUESTIONS. 
          THAT IS, WHAT WAS THE ORIGIN AND REASONING BEHIND THIS DECREASE? WHY WASN'T IT HIGHLIGHTED TO THE CITY COMMISSION BY STAFF IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE
FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WE COULD HAVE SIMPLY CONVERTED EVERYTHING TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WHILE MAINTAINING THE 75
FOOT MINIMUM. 
          WE DO NOT DID NOT NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO 40FT. 
          THE TWO ISSUES ARE SEPARATE. 75FT IS ACTUALLY ON THE LOW END FOR ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          IN TERMS OF MINIMUM WIDTHS, WE HAVE SOME WITH 90,
SOME WITH 100. 
          SO THIS WAS A BIG ROLLBACK. I'VE HEARD THE REASON WE CANNOT CHANGE THIS DECISION IS DUE TO
A SENATE 
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BILL 180 PASSED IN RESPONSE TO HURRICANE AFFECTED AREAS. 
          AND THE RATIONALE FOR THIS BILL WAS ACTUALLY TO PREVENT MUNICIPALITIES FROM MAKING IT MORE
DIFFICULT FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD AFTER A HURRICANE. 
          SO THEY WANTED TO PREVENT THAT. SO THEY PREEMPTED IT WITH THIS LAW THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T
CHANGE ANYTHING. 
          HOWEVER, IN LOOKING BACK, WE ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PROCESS WELL BEFORE THAT LAW WAS PASSED
BACK IN 2023. 
          AND I KNOW THERE ARE LEGAL HURDLES, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT EVERYONE SITTING ON THIS DAIS
WOULD AT LEAST COMMIT TO ROLLING BACK THOSE LOT WIDTH MINIMUMS TO THEIR ORIGINAL NUMBER OF 75FT WHEN IT BECOMES LEGALLY FEASIBLE. 
          IN CLOSING, DECREASING THE LOT SIZE MINIMUM HELPS. 
          ONLY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT I CAN COME UP WITH THAT IS DEVELOPERS,
AND IS EXPRESSLY AGAINST THE STATED PURPOSE OF OUR CHARTER, OUR MISSION, AND THE DESIRES OF OUR CITIZENS. 
          AND I'LL JUST READ FROM OUR PURPOSE OF OUR LAND USE REGULATIONS TO PROVIDE FOR THE ORDERLY
GROWTH, TO ENCOURAGE THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF LAND,
TO PROTECT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, TO PROTECT AND CONSERVE THE VALUE OF PROPERTY, TO PREVENT THE OVERCROWDING OF LAND, TO PROMOTE AND IMPROVE THE HEALTH,
SAFETY, COMFORT AND APPEARANCE. 
          ET CETERA. ET CETERA. FINALLY, I WOULD AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT MAYPORT ROAD NEEDS A
GROCERY STORE. 
          I DO WISH IT WAS A REAL GROCERY STORE. HOWEVER,
SOMETHING THAT ALL RESIDENTS OF ATLANTIC BEACH WOULD LOVE TO USE LIKE A TRADER JOE'S. 
          IF I COULD MAKE A PLUG. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO. 
          THANK YOU, DOCTOR MITCH REEVES. MITCH REESE. MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I WAS GOING TO READ FROM MY NOTES. I DO, SO I DIDN'T FORGET ANYTHING,
BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT. I'M GOING TO TALK FROM THE HEART AND ALSO FROM MY, SOME KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE OF BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE THERE'S AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          STEVE WILLIAMS HAS BEEN WANTING TO DO IT. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO IT SINCE 2017. 
          IS WE NEED OUR OWN STREET CLEANER. THE MACHINE ALL THOSE PEOPLE DO IS RIDE AROUND,
AND THE ONLY THING YOU COULD JUSTIFY IS A GPS. 
          OKAY, THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE PUTTING WATER IN IT OR THEY'RE REALLY
RUNNING, IT JUST TELLS YOU WHERE THEY WENT. WASTE OF MONEY. 
          GOOD FOR YOU. WHOEVER MADE THAT DECISION SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE A LONG TIME BY WILLIAMS. IT REALLY SHOULD HAVE. BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGEMENT. SECOND OF
ALL, I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT IS. IS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY A ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENT,
MR. NIX, ABOUT A FOOD. AS YOU WELL KNOW, I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE MAYPORT WATERFRONT,
AND WE OUR BIGGEST CONCERN OUT THERE IS A FOOD DESERT IN THE MAYPORT AREA. 
          WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AND LOOKING. WHEN I WAS MAYOR,
I LOOKED FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND NO STORE WOULD COME BECAUSE IT COST TOO MUCH FOR THE. 
          FROM THAT I THINK THEY HAVE AN IDEAL. I WANTED TO SELL THAT PROPERTY ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S
SURPLUS. 
          USE THAT MONEY TO PAY THE DEBT DOWN AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING. 
          IT'S NO REASON TO KEEP IT. I SUPPORT THAT TONIGHT. 
          AND MATTER OF FACT, ON WEDNESDAY, MR. I'VE INVITED MR. NIX TO COME BEFORE OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS GIVE US A PRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL,
AND WE WILL SUPPORT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO OUT THERE BECAUSE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A FOOD DESERT LAST. IN MY LAST MINUTE AND 26 SECONDS. 
          I WILL I WANT TO COVER THE BUDGET A LITTLE BIT,
AND THIS IS FROM MY MEMORY, WHICH IS NOT REAL GOOD BECAUSE I CARRY A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH A PICTURE ON IT. SO SOMETIMES I CAN LOOK AT IT AND FIGURE OUT WHO I AM. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING IS, IF I RECALL, IN 2016 AND 2017,
IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND IT IN THE BUDGET. 
          AND ON OUR WEBSITE, OUR BUDGET WAS AROUND 36 MILLION. 
          I COULD BE OFF A COUPLE OF MILLION, BUT IT WAS AROUND 36. 
          HOW DID WE GET UP TO 80 TO 50? SOME 50 PLUS MILLION IN TEN YEARS. 
          INFLATION WASN'T THERE. DID WE JUST WASTE OUR TAXPAYERS MONEY AND GET BUILDING GOVERNMENT
AND GOVERNMENT LIKE WE JUST DID LAST YEAR WITH A NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY NEED? SO I REALLY WANT TO LOOK FOR THAT AND MEETINGS BACK. 
          THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP SOMETHING AND I, I WATCHED ALL OF YOU UP THERE BECAUSE YOU WATCHED BY
YOUR FACES. 
          I THINK YOU ALSO KIND OF SUPPORTED THIS. HE SUGGESTED THAT WE REDUCE THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR
BY HALF $1 MILLION TO PREPARE IN CASE THE PROPERTY TAX. 
          AND IF IT DIDN'T TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT TOWARDS THE DEBT,
WE DON'T PAY THE DEBT. 
          WE JUST TAKE THE MONEY AND DO IT FOR OTHER THINGS. 
          AND I WOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT. AND THE OTHER THING,
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A MILLAGE REDUCTION BECAUSE THAT TAKES THAT TAKES FOUR VOTES. 
          AND UNDER THE STATE LAW, IF WE IF YOU WANT TO RAISE,
IT TAKES FIVE OF YOU TO DO IT. 
          THANK GOD THEY PASSED THAT. SO MY SUGGESTION IS REDUCE THE BUDGET IN-HOUSE BY A HALF A
MILLION. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR REEVES. I HAVE MAYOR. 
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OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE COURTESY OF THE FLOOR AND MOVE TO CITY MANAGER REPORTS. 
          [3. CITY MANAGER REPORTS  ]
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MR. HOGENCAMP. THANK YOU,
MAYOR FORD. 
          TO THE CITY COMMISSION, TO OUR RESIDENTS. A FEW HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR COMMUNITY UPDATE,
WHICH IS PUBLISHED ON THE CITY WEBSITE, INCLUDING THE RELATED LINKS. AND ALSO, THERE'S A HARD COPY ON THE TABLE BY THE DOOR HERE
REGARDING THE SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND PARKING COMMITTEE. BACK IN 2024 THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPTED A RESOLUTION
ACCEPTING THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE COMMITTEE. THE RESOLUTION DIRECTED THE STAFF THAT IS THE CITY MANAGER,
CITY ATTORNEY, PUBLIC WORKS AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO TRANSLATE THE OPPOSE THE APPROVED CONCEPTS INTO ENFORCEABLE MUNICIPAL CODES,
POLICY GUIDELINES, OPERATIONAL BUDGETS, AND PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE DOING JUST THAT ON THE AUGUST 24TH AGENDA
WILL ADVANCE THIS DISCUSSION WITH A PROPOSED PATH FORWARD. THE NEXT ITEM IS A TREE DASHBOARD THAT THAT WE HAVE UNVEILED AND MISS ASKEW. 
          ARE YOU PREPARED TO SHOW THAT OFF? SHE'S APPROACHING IN JULY,
THE CITY LAUNCHED A B TREES, WHICH IS AN URBAN FORESTRY DASHBOARD. BORN FROM A RESIDENT INSPIRED VISION AND CODED
IN-HOUSE BY OUR CIO WITHOUT WITHOUT ANY SOFTWARE PURCHASES OR ANYTHING. AND THIS WAS TO COINCIDE WITH THE CELEBRATION OF OUR
CENTENNIAL MILESTONE. 
          RESIDENTS WILL BE ALREADY CAN ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE THROUGH THE PORTAL BY APPLYING FOR FREE
TREES, NOMINATING HERITAGE TREES, AND EXPLORING INTERACTIVE MAPS OF FOLIAGE. 
          THE CITY WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND THE SITE TO INCLUDE HISTORICAL RECORDS,
DETAILED PUBLIC TREE DATA AND PHOTOS, AND ULTIMATELY REAL TIME DATA ON LOCAL CANOPY HEALTH WILL BE PROVIDED. 
          MRS ASKEW. REAL QUICKLY. YEAH, DEFINITELY. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED,
CHECK IT OUT. 
          PLUG TO OUR IT DEPARTMENT. AMAZING, AMAZING JOB THEY DID FOR US. 
          SO IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND YOU COME OVER TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE UNDER ENVIRONMENT,
YOU'LL CLICK ON THIS RIGHT HERE WHERE IT SAYS TREE DASHBOARD. 
          IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO THIS. IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS. 
          OUR FORESTRY PROGRAM THIS AND I THINK KEVIN ALLUDED TO THIS WAS AN IDEA THAT BUBBLED UP
FROM ESC AS WELL. 
          IT ALLOWS YOU TO MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR A FREE TREE IN YOUR FRONT YARD. 
          WE HAD THAT, BUT YOU HAD TO MAKE A PAPER APPLICATION. 
          THIS IS DIGITAL. IT COMES IN VIA EMAIL TO OUR STAFF. 
          YOU CAN DESIGNATE A HERITAGE TREE ON YOUR PROPERTY. 
          AGAIN ALL ONLINE HERE. AND THEN OUR CENTENNIAL TREE CAMPAIGN. 
          YOU CAN COME HERE, YOU CLICK ON IT. IT TELLS YOU HOW MANY TREES WE'VE PLANTED SO FAR. 
          OUR PROGRESS. OUR GOAL WAS 100 TREES FOR OUR 100 YEARS. 
          A MAP THAT YOU CAN ZOOM INTO AS WELL. WE ARE,
AS THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, GOING TO BE PUTTING ADDITIONAL DATA ON THE BOARD. 
          WE WILL HAVE A LINK THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR ACTIVE TREE PERMITS. 
          YOU CAN FIND THAT ON OUR WEBSITE. NOW IT'S JUST KIND OF BURIED AND HARD TO GET TO. 
          AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE A LINK THAT WILL GIVE US THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION THAT WILL HAVE
WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE IN THE TREE FUND AND WHAT WE'VE SPENT THE MONEY ON. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS. 
          WELL, SINCE YOU'RE HERE ARE YOU GIVING THOUGHT TO MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR MOVING
FORWARD WITH MORE BIGGER TREES OUT OF OUR TREE FUND? THAT IS ONE POSSIBILITY. ALTHOUGH SOME SPECIES DO BETTER WITH A SMALLER
TREE, THEY'RE LESS STRESSED. SO IT WILL PROBABLY BE A SPECIES BY SPECIES DISCUSSION AND
PLACEMENT. 
          BUT YES, THAT IS AN OPTION TO SPEND ADDITIONAL MONEY TO GET A NICER TREE. 
          IF I MAY ELABORATE ON THAT. THE, THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP ON AUGUST
19TH, YOU'LL SEE MORE ABOUT OUR PLAN TO DIG INTO THE TREE PRESERVATION FUND AND GET TREES IN THE
GROUND. 
          YEAH. GOOD DEAL. THANKS. OKAY. THANKS. THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE OF FIVE DIFFERENT PORTALS THAT OUR IT DIRECTOR RON BAUTISTA HAS,
HAS DEVELOPED IN HOUSE. 
          WE HIGHLIGHT THE OTHERS IN THE MANAGER'S REPORT AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AND WE'LL SHOW
OFF REAL SOON AT A MEETING, SOMETHING CALLED OPEN A B, WHICH WILL BE OUR PROJECT TRACKING SYSTEM THAT WILL ENABLE
RESIDENTS TO TRACK OUR PROJECTS IN REAL TIME. 
          NEXT, NEXT ITEM ON THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT IS OUR TREE PROTECTION CODE PHASE TWO UPDATE. 
          SO FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF THE TREE PROTECTION CODE UPDATE IN JULY,
STAFF IS PROCEEDING WITH THE PROSPECTIVE PHASE TWO 
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OF THIS TREE PROTECTION CODE. UPDATE. WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH A PROPOSED PATH FORWARD
BY A SEPTEMBER MEETING. 
          AND THESE THESE CHANGES, REGULATORILY AND POLICY WISE,
WOULD DIRECTLY INTEGRATE WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED PUTTING TREES IN THE GROUND BECAUSE WE HAVE A HEALTHY TREE PROTECTION FUND, AS YOU ALL KNOW,
OF MORE THAN $600,000 AND WITH WITH OUR NEW TREE PORTAL. 
          SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT DOING ALL THINGS TREES THROUGH THIS PORTAL AND BEING TRANSPARENT
ABOUT IT. 
          THE NEXT ITEM IS, IS A MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER UPDATE. 
          FIRE LINE INSTALLATION AT MARSH OAKS IS COMPLETE AND IS NOW UNDERGOING PRESSURE TESTING
AHEAD OF A CITY OF JACKSONVILLE FIRE INSPECTION. 
          MAJOR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETE WITH ACTIVE UTILITIES WHILE THE CONTRACTOR
COMPLETES THE FINAL INTERIOR, INTERIOR DETAIL WORK AND EXTERIOR COSMETIC TOUCH UPS. 
          ONCE THE INSPECTION CLEARS, CONTRACTORS WILL BEGIN INSTALLING THE CONCRETE DRIVEWAY,
SIDEWALKS AND THE TURF BLOCK PAVERS, AND OVERALL BUILDING COMPLETION AND SITE PAVING REMAIN TARGETED FOR COMPLETION AHEAD OF
THE OCTOBER OPENING, AND STAFF WILL MEET WITH THE CONTRACTOR THIS WEEK TO FINALIZE THE TIMELINE,
AFTER WHICH THE COMMUNITY GARDEN INSTALLATION CAN BEGIN. 
          THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE IS ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE YOUTH COUNCIL,
AND I'LL CALL MISS ASKEW BACK UP. 
          CITY STAFF IS ADVANCING. PROMOTE A PROPOSED COMMISSION LEGISLATION WHICH WILL BE VETTED BY
THE ARTS, RECREATION AND CULTURE COMMITTEE. WE'VE GIVEN YOU AND THE COMMUNITY A EARLY LOOK AT WHAT
WE HAVE IN MIND JUST TO GET A COMMUNITY DISCUSSION GOING. 
          THIS WOULD REPEAL THE TEEN COUNCIL PROVISIONS THAT THAT CURRENTLY ARE IN PLACE. 
          AND OFFICIALLY DISSOLVE THE TEEN COUNCIL AS A FORMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND MISS ASKEW HAS MORE EXPLANATION, I GUESS. 
          SO THIS ACTUALLY STARTED OUT IN A PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE TAKE A
LOOK AT THIS. 
          WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH ATTENDANCE WITH THE YOUTH COUNCIL BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE
REGULATIONS. 
          THESE ARE YOUNG HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. THEY WANT TO MEET AFTER SCHOOL. 
          AND WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT AND WITH SUNSHINE REGULATIONS,
WE HAVE TO POST THE MEETING. 
          IT'S NOT AS SPONTANEOUS AS THE YOUNG KIDS WOULD LIKE TO BE. 
          SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN STILL GET THEIR INPUT. 
          WE STILL THE SAME MISSION. WE WANT THEM TO COLLABORATE WITH US,
WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND GET FEEDBACK FROM OUR YOUTH AS TO WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          PROGRAMING IT GIVES THEM VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES,
ALSO ALLOWS THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GOVERNMENT. 
          SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE TRANSITION THIS TO A CLUB VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S SPELLED
OUT IN RESOLUTION. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS ASKEW? NO, BUT BUT I HAVE A COMMENT. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE COMMISSION. 
          I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR THE LAST ALMOST FOUR YEARS AS MAYOR. 
          AND WE'RE UNDER INDEXED ON THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT CLUB FOR THE REASONS YOU STATED. 
          THIS IS SPOT ON. I HOPE WE GET GOOD BUY IN AND SUPPORT THROUGH BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB ON IT,
BUT IT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH. JUST ONE MORE ITEM THAT I'LL GO OVER NOW. 
          AND THAT IS JUST AN UPDATE ON ADVANCING OUR AUGUST 19TH BUDGET WORKSHOP. 
          WE INDEED ARE MAINTAINING A KEY EYE ON, ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF AMENDMENT THREE. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE DETAILED MATERIALS PUBLISHED ONLINE THIS WEEK TO HELP PREPARE THE COMMISSION
FOR ITS DISCUSSION NEXT WEEK AND, AND ENABLE THE PUBLIC TO DIG IN AND SEE, SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN
TERMS OF EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES. 
          AND I HAVE OTHER ITEMS ON MY REPORT THAT'S PUBLISHED AND OTHERWISE AM AVAILABLE NOW AND
LATER TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS. 
          THANK YOU. YES. ARE WE GOING TO DO THREE A AND THREE B OR DID I MISS. 
          DID YOU DO IT AND I MISSED IT? NO. NO. YES. WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. 
          AND I'M SORRY. OKAY. YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND DO THAT? SURE. PLEASE. CITY COMMISSION, IF YOU WILL CONSIDER ACCEPTING THE 90 DAY CALENDAR BY
CONSENSUS. 
          THERE'S NO. NO CHANGES. THAT'S A SURPRISE. OKAY,
YOU GOT A CALENDAR? BUT AND FINALLY, IF YOU WILL JUST BE AWARE OF THE MONTHLY BUILDING REPORT,
AND I SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S NEW. 
          AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN MY CITY MANAGER REPORT CADENCE. 
          SO FAR AND I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT IT WAS NEW AND I JUST SPENT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LOOKING
AT IT. 
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SO IT GAVE US A YEAR OVER YEAR COMPARISON, BUT IT ALSO GAVE US THE MONTH TO DATE,
I THINK. 
          SO THAT'S BRAND NEW. AND SO COMMISSIONERS, I THINK THAT'S VALUABLE DATA TO LOOK AT. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE SINCE WE'RE NOT AT THE END OF THIS,
IT WAS THAT CALENDAR YEAR BASED, NOT FISCAL YEAR. 
          IT WAS MONTH TO MONTH. WELL, BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE YEAR OVER YEAR 2025 TO 2026,
I THINK IT WAS CALENDAR. 
          BUT ANYWAYS, YES, IT LOOKED TO BE TRACKING THIS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE SAME YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          YES. YES. YEAH. SO VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANKS. OKAY, SO WE'RE BACK TO ITEM FOUR NOW. 
          [4. REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS ]
REPORTS AND OR REQUESTS FROM CITY COMMISSIONERS. 
          SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM FOUR A COMMISSIONER RING YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS LOT SIZE. 
          YES I DO. SO BACK IN 2023, WE LOOKED AT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 2024. 
          AND THE PREMISE BEHIND THAT WAS, I BELIEVE, MOSTLY PUTTING OURSELVES IN COMPLIANCE WITH
OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH DID INVOLVE THE FLUME AS WELL. SO FAST FORWARD TO JUST MAYBE A MONTH AGO. 
          WHAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE OUR COMMISSION WAS AN INTERESTING SITUATION WITH SPLIT LOT SIZES
ON BEACH AVENUE. 
          THE HOUSE WAS PACKED AND IT WAS AT THIS TIME THAT I,
AND MAYBE YOU ALL AS WELL LEARNED THAT IN 2023, WE IN FACT, PUT OR VOTED TO CHANGE TWO DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS OF LOT SIZES FROM THE 75 OVER THE 75 AND 100 OVER TO 50 BY 100. 
          AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER ONE WHERE IT'S R G, M FROM 75 TO 100. 
          IT WAS SWITCHED TO 40. SO WE CUT SUBSTANTIALLY ON THOSE TWO. 
          AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. MAYBE THAT WAS PART OF. 
          THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF CHANGES THAT WE MADE AS A COMMISSION BACK IN 2023. 
          THERE WASN'T POSSIBLY ANY WAY FOR US TO UNDERSTAND ALL OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES,
BUT THIS SENT A RED FLAG BEFORE ME, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT SENT A RED FLAG BEFORE THE REST OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS,
BUT I WANTED TO AT LEAST HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT. 
          AND HAVE I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH AMANDA ASKEW? SHE MET WITH ME IN WHICH SHE BROKE IT DOWN FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
DOWN TO THE FLUME, DOWN TO THIS AND NOT JUST THE BEACH AVENUE SITUATION,
BUT OTHER SITUATIONS AS WELL, AND HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT US OVERALL. 
          SO I ASKED AMANDA TO SHARE THAT SAME PRESENTATION THAT SHE SHARED WITH ME ALONG WITH YOU,
AND I'D ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER AT LEAST HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. 
          SURE. SO ARE YOU BRINGING UP AMANDA? I'VE ASKED HER TO. 
          YEAH. OKAY. AS SHE APPROACHES, I HOPE WHAT I ASKED HER TO DO IS IN CONFLICT WITH WHAT YOU
ASKED HER TO DO. 
          I ASKED AMANDA TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW. AND OF COURSE MR. GABRIEL IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, PARTICULARLY PERTAINING TO THE MATTERS THAT HE
BROUGHT UP. 
          I WILL HOPEFULLY BE QUICK, BUT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND GO OVER EVERYTHING WE DID. 
          YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THEN OUT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
YOU HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          THERE'S STATE STATUTE REQUIREMENTS FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT SAYS EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS
TO HAVE ONE, AND THERE'S VARIOUS ELEMENTS IN THERE. AND ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT YOU FIND IN THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS DENSITY RELATED TO LOT DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS SOMETHING, AND IN PARTICULAR WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. 
          A COUPLE OF AREAS OF TOWN ARE HIGH FOCUS. AND THIS WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM MULTIPLE
PRESENTATIONS THAT WE GAVE AT PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          AND COMMISSIONER RING IS CORRECT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES GOING ON TO CHAPTER 24. 
          THOSE MEETINGS GOT LONG. I'M SURE SOME THINGS GOT BURIED OR JUST KIND OF GLOSSED OVER FOR
SOME SOME RESIDENTS. 
          SO WE ARE LOOKING PRIMARILY THE CONVERSATION STARTED ON THE WEST SIDE OF MAYPORT ROAD. 
          THAT'S WHERE STAFF STARTED NOTICING SOME ISSUES WITH OUR EXISTING LOT SIZES RELATED TO THE
DENSITY. 
          SO THESE WERE THE PRIMARY AREAS THAT WE LOOKED AT ALONG MAYPORT ROAD. 
          THIS IS SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT COULD BE DONE. IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL FROM THIS PICTURE. 
          BUT THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR TOWNHOMES THAT LOOK LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES,
BUT THEY'RE CONNECTED IN THE BACK. 
          THOSE WOULD MEET CODE, WHEREAS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD NOT MEET CODE TO BE ALLOWED TO
BE DEVELOPED. 
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THIS WAS A SLIDE THAT WAS TAKEN FROM THE PRESENTATION. 
          THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES RESIDENTIAL AREAS OF
THE CITY INTO TWO DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY IS THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THE ZONING CODE ESTABLISHES THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR NEW LOTS WITHIN DIFFERENT ZONING
DISTRICTS. 
          THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES SHOULD CORRESPOND TO THE DENSITY ALLOWED FOR THAT DISTRICT. 
          SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE GREEN MATCHES FOR THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THE RED DOES
NOT. 
          SO THE FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY,
THE SINGLE FAMILY ZONING CODE SAID 7500 MINIMUM SQUARE FEET FOR LOT SIZE. AND SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          BUT IN OUR TWO FAMILY AND OUR MULTI-FAMILY, WE WERE NOT CONSISTENT. 
          SO WE WERE PROPOSING LOOKING AT MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN THE MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY SO THAT
THEY WOULD CORRELATE TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          THIS IS A SLIDE I, WE TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. 
          AND WHEN I SAY CURRENT, THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE CHANGES IN 2024. 
          IF YOU HAD 100 BY 100 FOOT LOT IN YOUR TWO FAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY,
YOU WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD A DUPLEX, WHICH IS TWO UNITS ON ONE PARCEL, BUT YOU WERE NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE OF LOT WIDTH
REQUIREMENTS TO BUILD TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          SO THE CHANGES, WHILE THEY DID CHANGE THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH,
DID NOT CHANGE THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THIS IS ULTIMATELY WHAT STAFF HAD PROPOSED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY TO BUILD THE TOWNHOME OR BUILD TWO
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND OUR MULTIFAMILY OR HIGH DENSITY, THE SAME LOT. AND THIS IS WHAT KIND OF WE WERE LOOKING AT ON
THE SEMINOLE ROAD SCENARIO IS THAT PARTICULAR ONE, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF IT COULD HAVE BUILT FOUR TOWNHOMES BUT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
BUILD A SCENARIO DIFFERENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH IT WOULD BE LOT LESS DENSITY. SO STAFF PROPOSED TO CHANGE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE TO
ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. I GUESS THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE. 
          WE DO HAVE FLORIDA LAW THAT STATES IN THE STATE STATUTE THAT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MUST
BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR ZONING REGULATIONS. 
          SO THAT WAS THE INTENT OF STAFF IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE CONSISTENT. 
          NOW COMMISSION CAN LOOK AT POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND OR THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO MAKE LARGER LOTS OR LESS ALLOW LESS DENSITY. AND THEN THE ZONING CODE COULD FOLLOW. 
          SO ALWAYS YOU START WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
AND THEN YOU DRILL DOWN INTO YOUR LOCAL CODES AND ORDINANCES, AND THAT'S HOW YOU SUPPORT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO JUST TO PUT IT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS,
BECAUSE YOU HAD A WHOLE LOT OF PLANNING ZONING JARGON THERE, BUT WHAT IT STATES IS, AND, AND IT'S MISSING ONE OF YOUR CHARTS. 
          I REALLY HELPED ME UNDERSTAND IN OUR CONVERSATION,
THE CHART THAT I ASKED A CITY MANAGER TO HAVE YOU SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSION SHOWS THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILIES ARE STAYING THE SAME. 
          IT'S 100 BY 100 FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE ONE IS 75 BY 100. 
          RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TWO IS 75 BY 100. BUT IT'S ONLY THE CHANGE IN G AND G M. 
          SO IN THOSE AREAS WHERE IT'S POSSIBLE YOU HAVE THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE TOGETHER. 
          AND NOW YOU CAN PUT TWO WHERE THERE WAS ONCE ONE. 
          I THINK AS A WHOLE EVERYONE CAN PRETTY MUCH GRASP WITH A COMPREHENSION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
IS THE VISION OF THE PEOPLE, RIGHT. AND WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE WANT? DO THEY WANT MORE WHERE THERE WAS ONCE LESS. 
          AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT TO CHANGE THIS NOW BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AND ALSO BACK TO THE WAY
THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE, AND THOSE ZONING SECTIONS ARE, WOULD MEAN WE'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE FLUME AND THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          I THINK BASED OFF OF MANY CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH PEOPLE WHO WILL JUST ASK ME A VERY
SIMPLE QUESTION, HOW IS IT THAT 80 YEARS HAVE GONE BY AND THIS TINY LITTLE HOUSE HAS BEEN HERE ON THIS LOT, AND NOW I SEE 2 OR 3 WHERE THERE ONCE WAS ONE. 
          AND IF YOU COULD JUST PUT THAT WHAT WE JUST DID IN 2023. 
          DID WE MAKE THAT WORSE? I WOULD I WOULD ARGUE NO,
BECAUSE IT'S STILL THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          SO IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU COULD DEVELOP IT AS A TOWNHOUSE,
WHICH WOULD BE TWO UNITS. 
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OR YOU COULD IN THE PAST ONLY PUT A HOME THERE. 
          SO YOU WERE REDUCING DENSITY. AND UNDER THE CURRENT CODE,
IT'S STILL TWO UNITS, WHETHER IT'S A TOWNHOME OR WHETHER IT'S TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO YOU DID NOT INCREASE DENSITY. WE WERE ACTUALLY REDUCING PEOPLE'S DEVELOPMENT
RIGHTS BY LIMITING THE LOT WIDTH. SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT LOT WITH THE 75 OR 100,
YOU ARE MORE LIKE THE RS ONE ZONING DISTRICT OR A MUCH HIGHER ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO ZONING DISTRICTS, IF YOU LOOK IN THE CHART THAT YOU LOOKED AT,
YOU GO FROM THE LARGEST LOTS TO THE RGM, WHICH IS THE THE SMALLER, MOST DENSE, SO YOU FOLLOW THAT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. 
          THEREFORE, YOUR LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS KIND OF YOU START AT THE LARGER LOTS AND THEN YOU GO
TO YOUR SMALLER LOTS WITH SMALLER DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO MAY I. WELL, SO THE TIMES HAVE CHANGED. AND SO WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF
NEW HOMES ON BEACH AVENUE OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS WHAT STARTED OUT AS A A MULTI UNIT DESIGNATED HIGH DENSITY ZONING PEOPLE DECIDED THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES
ON BEACH AVENUE, ESPECIALLY MAYBE NOT SO MUCH ON THE OTHER END OF THESE THROUGH LOTS. 
          AND AND I REALIZE EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS ZONING,
NOT JUST FOR BEACH AVENUE AND SEMINOLE ROAD. 
          BUT ALSO FOR PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY UNDER THE SAME ZONING. 
          BUT I GUESS MY POINT IS THIS EVERY CITY HAS ZONING DIFFERENCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          THE CITY MAKES DECISIONS TO ACCOMMODATE HIGH DENSITY,
MEDIUM DENSITY, LOW DENSITY, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE GO TO NON OCEANFRONT OR NEAR OCEANFRONT
PROPERTY, THE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD HOMES ON, ON LOTS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD. 
          SO HAVING HIGHER DENSITY AFFORDS MORE HOMES. AND WE NOW ARE AT A POINT IN TIME WHERE THAT
MAY BE IN CONFLICT WITH A DESIRE TO PRESERVE TREES, IF IN FACT THAT'S A RESULT OF REDUCING DENSITY. 
          BUT THE THE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ILLUSION BACK WHEN WE APPROVED THIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          WE WERE MATCHING OFF TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MAKING IT WORK BECAUSE YOU HAVE PLENTY
OF HOMES ALONG BEACH AVENUE. 
          THESE THESE, BY THE WAY ON BEACH AVENUE ARE TYPICALLY 50 FOOT BY WHATEVER LENGTH BECAUSE
THEY GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO SEMINOLE. 
          BUT YOU, IF YOU'RE GOING TO STICK WITH 75FT AS THE REQUIREMENT THEN YOU CAN'T PUT A SINGLE
FAMILY, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE TWO LOTS TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          AND THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ALONG THERE. 
          NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO
THE ZONING MAP TO SEE WHERE, BUT YOU'VE GOT MANY STREETS OF THIS HIGH DENSITY ZONING. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONDOMINIUMS AND THE TOWNHOUSES ALONG SEMINOLE ROAD,
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT MORE UNITS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES OR PROJECTS THAN WHAT WE HAVE RECENTLY ADDRESSED WHEN WE WERE ADDRESSING THE REQUEST FOR THE
THE VARIANCE ON THE DOUBLE LOT THAT ENDED UP REVERTING BACK TO DECISIONING BY CITY STAFF. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS IT OUR DESIRE? AND UNDER WHAT BASIS AND BENEFIT IS IT OUR DESIRE AS A COMMISSION TO CHANGE THE ZONING? AND I BET YOU WE WOULDN'T BE CHANGING IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS. 
          WE'D BE CHANGING IT TO SOMETHING BRAND NEW. SO THE QUESTION IS,
IS THIS A DESIRE TO SAVE TREES THEN? SO STATE IT. IF IT'S NOT IF IT'S JUST ABOUT DENSITY,
WE'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT THERE IS NO MORE DENSITY THROUGH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE THAN WHAT WAS ALLOWED BEFORE. NOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET SIDEWAYS TONIGHT. 
          YOU CAN GET INTO SETBACKS AND SO ON. AND THERE ARE SOME SLIGHT NUANCES THERE THAT COULD BE
A FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. 
          AND IF YOU CHANGE IT AND NOW REQUIRE 75 FOOT LOTS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME,
IT'S NOW TOTALLY INCONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING AROUND IT. 
          AND YEAH, YEAH. GO AHEAD. QUESTION. I READ WHAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY PUT OUT. 
          IF WE EVEN IF WE WANTED TO CHANGE THIS. RIGHT. 
          WE COULD NOT DO THAT UNTIL OCTOBER 27TH. IS THAT CORRECT? I WAS BRINGING THAT UP AS A CAUTIONARY NOTE. I MEAN,
I DO THINK ARGUABLY SENATE BILL 180 WOULD PROHIBIT MAKING MORE RIGOROUS DEVELOPMENT 
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STANDARDS. SO I YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S A POLICY CALL. 
          IT'S A POLICY DISCUSSION I SHOULD HAVE AND GO. 
          BUT I WOULD, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THE LEGALITY OF WHAT. 
          YEAH. I MEAN, I DID BRING THAT UP AS PART OF THE COUNCIL THAT YOU SHOULD TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THAT THERE'S THAT STATUTORY RULE THAT APPLIES. 
          OKAY. THANKS. YES, COMMISSIONER. DID YOU WANT TO ADD. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, AMANDA, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW,
LOOKING AT THIS AND I'M, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE, WHERE THE CONTENTION IS OR CONCERN OVER THIS BECAUSE TO ME,
YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALREADY ABLE TO BUILD A TOWNHOME COMPLEX OF TWO UNITS AND TWO TWO FAMILIES CAN LIVE IN THOSE,
RIGHT? VERSUS, YOU KNOW, TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE SAME PLOT OF LAND,
RELATIVELY SAME LOT COVERAGE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT LOSING LOSING PERMEABILITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
WHICH IS GOOD. 
          SO TO ME, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M A HOMEOWNER OR,
YOU KNOW, WANT TO BUILD A HOME. 
          I'D PREFER TO HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IF I COULD,
YOU KNOW AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME, IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS IN THE AREA, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU GOT PEOPLE ON BEECH AVE WITH 50 FOOT FRONTAGE. 
          YES. RIGHT. YES. AND YOU GOT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. 
          NO, NO NO. I WANT YOU TO HAVE 75. I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHY THERE'S ANY
CONCERN OVER THAT. 
          AND YOU WOULD ALSO. AND GOING BACK WHERE'S THE NEXT THE THE SLIDE IT HAS THE FOUR PLEX. 
          SO HERE YOU HAVE LIKE YOU MENTIONED AGAIN, WHICH I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF IS THAT,
YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING FOUR TOWNHOMES, WHICH TO ME,
I DON'T KNOW FROM THIS PICTURE IF IT'S RELATIVE. 
          BUT YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE LOSE COVERAGE. 
          IT WAS JUST AS YOU THINK IT'S THE SAME LOT COVERAGE. 
          IT, IT IS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE. OKAY. 
          SO FOR THE FOURPLEX VERSUS THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES,
AGAIN, WE DON'T LOSE ANY PERMEABILITY, RIGHT? CORRECT. WELL, MAY MAY I JUST ADD TO THAT? YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK YOU DO BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE THE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS,
YOU HAVE 15FT OF SIDE SETBACKS, WHICH IS 30FT IN TOTAL FOR THAT SAME SIZE PARCEL. 
          WHAT ARE THE SIDE SETBACKS ON THE FOUR ATTACHED UNITS? SO YOU STILL HAVE THE MAXIMUM OF 45%. SO 45% COVERAGE. 
          COVERAGE. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN MORE THAN LIKELY WHEN YOU DEVELOP THE TOWNHOME IS YOU HAVE
NARROWER DRIVEWAYS AND YOU HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT POTENTIALLY. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HOW MUCH SIDE SETBACKS ARE REQUIRED ON THAT FOUR UNIT BUILDING? IT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING DISTRICT. IT COULD BE A TEN ON ONE SIDE AND 15 ON THE OTHER. 
          SO YOU HAVE LARGER SIDE YARD SETBACKS AND I KNEW THAT. 
          THANK YOU. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE 25FT OF SIDE SETBACKS ON THAT FOUR UNIT ATTACHED BUILDING,
BUT YOU WOULD HAVE 30FT OF SETBACKS ON THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO YOU ACTUALLY WENT YOU WENT THE WRONG DIRECTION IF YOU'RE TRYING TO KEEP
GREEN SPACE. 
          I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT. SO ANYWAYS, BUT BUT YOU'RE GOING FROM FOR A DENSITY OF FOUR
HOMES TO TWO, WHICH AGAIN SEEMS LIKE A WIN THERE. I GUESS WE LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF PERMEABILITY,
BUT I THINK THE DENSITY, YOU KNOW, MAKES UP THE LACK OF DENSITY MAKES UP FOR THAT. 
          AND IN MY MIND. AND, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO BE EDUCATED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW,
YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT, I WASN'T HERE FOR ALL THIS, BUT WHAT,
YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE, THE HUGE LOT THAT WE HAVE ON RUNS FROM SEMINOLE TO BEACH AVE,
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PARTS OF TOWN THAT THIS WOULD CRITICALLY IMPACT? LIKE THE OTHER AREAS YOU HAD CIRCLED IS THAT IS THAT IT IMPACTS THOSE AREAS PREDOMINANTLY. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE HAD SEEN A TREND. AND IF YOU DRIVE BY,
YOU'LL SEE IT'S A TOWNHOME. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND IT'S CONNECTED IN IN THE REAR. 
          IT'S VERY ODD. I'M GOING TO CALL IT A BREEZEWAY OR CONNECTION. 
          SO PEOPLE ARE SMART. THEY FIGURED OUT A WAY AROUND THE,
THE, THE CODE AND THEY STILL COULD GET TWO UNITS ON THERE VERSUS IF THAT CAME DOWN, THEY WOULD ONLY AT THE TIME BE ABLE TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. 
          SO THIS JUST AFFORDS THEM THE SAME DEVELOPMENT,
THE SAME DENSITY. 
          BUT WITH THE REMOVAL OF THAT RESTRICTIVE LOT WIDTH,
YOU COULD NOW DEVELOP IT AS TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES VERSUS A DUPLEX OR A TOWNHOME, WHICH IS, I GUESS WHAT WOULD HELP ME IN, IN,
IN COMING TO A BETTER DECISION ON THIS IS THE THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING AREAS, LIKE, AND YOU KNOW, HOW MANY LOTS OUT THERE STILL HAVE,
YOU KNOW, 100FT LOT 100 FOOT FRONTAGE LOTS IN THIS GENERAL AREA THAT COULD 
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POTENTIALLY BE DIVIDED THIS WAY. WHAT, WHAT I GUESS WHAT'S THE YOU KNOW,
THE TRUE IMPACT? CAN WE QUANTIFY THAT SOMEHOW WITH UNDERSTANDING HOW MANY ARE THESE SIZED LOTS ARE OUT
THERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CONVERTED INTO THIS, THIS CONCERN THAT WE HAVE. I WANT TO, IF I MAY,
I WANT TO ADD ON I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SAME. 
          AND NOW REMEMBER, YOU GOT TWO DIFFERENT AREAS. 
          AND FORGIVE ME IF WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT AREAS,
BUT THE GM ZONING, YOU HAVE IT WEST OF MAYPORT ROAD AND YOU HAVE IT EAST OF OF MAYPORT ROAD ON SEMINOLE SLASH BEACH. HOW MANY 50 FOOT PARCELS EXIST TODAY THAT ARE UNDEVELOPED
THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY A CHANGE? BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH. 
          BUT IF THERE IS, I, I NEED TO KNOW THIS. I THINK IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY BUILT OUT. 
          BUT AND THEN WHAT'S THE BENEFIT FOR, FOR DOING THAT? IF IT'S THE BENEFITS FOR TREES, THEN IT'S SO STATE THAT AND HOW IT SAVES TREES BECAUSE
WE'VE JUST TAKEN A RIGOROUS EFFORT TO MODIFY OUR TREE ORDINANCE TO PROTECT 20 INCH D.B.H TREES. SO IS IT TREES? IS IT GREEN SPACE? IS IT I DON'T WANT MORE DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR DOING THAT? NOW, MY LAST QUESTION. 
          MAY I CONTINUE ON THIS? IN ORDER TO KIND OF BRING SOME CLOSURE,
IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT. 
          THE ZONING CHANGE IS TO 40 FOOT WIDTH. SO YES,
IT DEPENDS ON THE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          THE RG WAS 75 TO 50 AND THE RG M WAS 75 TO 40. 
          SO IT WENT DOWN. YEAH. BUT THE, WHAT WE DEALT WITH RECENTLY THAT WE TURNED BACK OVER TO
YOUR DEPARTMENT TO ADMINISTER ON WAS TWO DOUBLE, 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS THAT WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND THEY REQUESTED VARIANCE TO I BELIEVE
THAT WAS A VARIANCE. 
          IT WAS A ZONING. OH, I'M SORRY, THEY REQUESTED A PLAT. 
          THANK YOU. BASED ON 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS. AND THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY SO CHOSE. 
          OR BASICALLY IF YOU TOOK 50 TIMES TWO, THAT'S 100FT,
YOU COULDN'T HAVE PUT FOUR HOMES THERE. 
          SO BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU COULD NOT HAVE PUT FOUR HOMES THERE OR EVEN THREE. 
          THEY COULD ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO ZERO SEMINOLE,
THE ONE THAT WE DEALT WITH THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP A FOUR UNIT TOWNHOME THERE, BUT I'M TALKING SINGLE FAMILY, RIGHT. SO UNDER THE OLD CODE,
BECAUSE OF THE LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENTS, THEY, THE MOST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN WOULD BE TWO ONE THAT WOULD FACE
SEMINOLE AND ONE THAT FACED BEACH BECAUSE OF THAT MINIMUM LOT 75 FOOT LOT WITH THANK YOU. AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE FOR A SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE OR WAS AND IS. LET'S GO BACK TO THE A LITTLE OVER 7700 ZERO SQUARE FEET,
I BELIEVE. 
          YES. THEY THAT ZERO SEMINOLE EXCEEDED THAT. BECAUSE THEY WERE SO DEEP THEY,
THEY. 
          WELL AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE ON THE REMAINING INVENTORY OF THE
COUPLE OF LOTS THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED. 
          WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT REQUEST THAT WE REFERRED BACK THOSE LOTS WERE LIKE 8000 9000FT². 
          SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE JUST DEALT WITH,
WE WERE NOT OVERBUILDING OR OVERDEVELOPING THAT PROPERTY. 
          IN FACT, THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST DENSITY ANYWHERE IN THAT AREA FROM BEACH TO SEMINOLE. 
          FROM 20TH STREET BACK TO PROBABLY 18TH STREET. 
          THOSE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST LOTS THAT I'VE SEEN IN THAT AREA. 
          AM I WRONG? THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE VERY DEEP LOTS. 
          THEY'RE VERY DEEP LOTS. THEY'RE NOT AS WIDE AS SOME OF THEM. 
          AND SOME OF THEM ARE 50 FOOT LOTS. YOU KNOW,
A LOT OF OLD ATLANTIC BEACHES DEVELOPED AS 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS. 
          AND HOW AND EXCUSE ME IF. YES, PLEASE. AND, AND SOME OF THE BEACH HOMES THAT ARE BEING
BUILT, SOME OF THEM ON THE OCEAN. HOW ARE THEY GETTING AROUND THE YOU KNOW,
THEY ARE ABOUT 200FT DEEP. 
          THEY'RE REALLY PRETTY DEEP. THE ONES ON THE OCEAN. 
          NO, I GET THAT PART. BUT THE SIDE SETBACKS ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED IN SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO
DO THAT. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING LOT, IT'S CONSIDERED A LOT OF RECORDS,
SO IF IT WAS A LOT, IT'S NEVER BEEN BUILT, BUT IT'S BEEN PLATTED. YOU'RE NOT CREATING A NEW LOT. 
          AND IT'S LESS THAN 75FT OR LESS THAN WHATEVER THE ZONING DISTRICT IS. 
          YOU'RE GRANDFATHERED IN OKAY, WITH THE PROVISION THAT YOUR NEW HOME MEETS ZONING CODE. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO MEET THE FRONT YARD SETBACK AND THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS. 
          OKAY. THAT'S GREAT EXPLANATION. AND THEN WHAT HAS THE LARGE LOT UP HERE IN SEMINOLE,
WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT SHIP SAILED, RIGHT? WE'VE ALREADY. 
          WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH THAT? YEAH. THEY MEET MEET CODE,
THEY MEET ALL THE MINIMUMS AND THEY EXCEED THE MINIMUMS FOR THE, 
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THE AREA. AND THEY ARE ABLE TO DEVELOP FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THAT'S BEEN DECIDED. 
          THE PRE PLANNING IS YES. MOVING FORWARD, COMMISSION TASKED STAFF WITH LOOKING AT IT. 
          THEY MET CODE. SO STAFF ISSUED APPROVAL FOR TALLAHASSEE'S FOR STATE LAW STATE LAW OR STATE
LAW. 
          OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. KELLY. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT,
YOU KNOW, GIVEN THIS MAP WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, THE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING ON BEACH. THIS IS SO THERE,
THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT AND I DIDN'T INCLUDE IT HERE,
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP AS WELL THIS IS ZONED R G UP IN THIS AREA RGM AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE THE LOT SIZES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE CHANGE IS THAT THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTHS WERE REDUCED TO ALLOW THE
SAME DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT IT'S PRIMARILY FOCUSED IN THIS AREA ON MAYPORT
ROAD, THIS LITTLE POCKET RIGHT HERE. BUT THERE IS A A POCKET NORTH OF AROUND 19TH STREET WHERE
IT TRANSITIONS TO G M ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO THAT AREA IS INCLUDED. THERE'S A LOT OF CONDOS UP THERE. 
          YEAH. WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOUSES OR CONDOS, THERE'S A LOT OF ATTACHED HOUSING. 
          YES. SO IT JUST MY FINAL POINT ON IT IS, AGAIN,
I'M OPEN. 
          I, I'M AGNOSTIC. I DON'T LIVE THERE. AND I, I WANT TO DO WHATEVER THE COMMUNITY WANTS
DONE, BUT TO CHANGE IT THERE AT THIS LATE STAGE IN THE GAME,
I'M NOT SEEING WHAT THE THE BENEFIT IS OTHER THAN TO STOP PEOPLE FROM GETTING REASONABLE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY. 
          AND I'M AGAINST THAT. SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOTHING FURTHER. 
          THANK YOU. OKAY. WHERE ARE WE? THANK YOU FOR B. 
          OH, OKAY. THAT'S ME. SO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL. I'M GOING TO ASK RYAN NIX TO COME UP AND SPEAK
TO THIS. 
          SOME OF YOU HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO THE AGENDA AND THIS IS A PROPOSAL,
A POSSIBLE SOLUTION. 
          I HOPE IT BECOMES A SOLUTION OF TO SOLVE THE FOOD DESERT ON MAYPORT ROAD. 
          BUT I'M GOING TO LET MR. NIX PRESENT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION. 
          AND I'M GOING TO STICK TO MY HEARTFELT NOTES,
IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          SO GOOD EVENING, MAYOR FORD. COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS RYAN NIX. 
          I LIVE AT 1525 SELVA MARINA DRIVE HERE IN ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          TONIGHT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PROBLEM A LOT OF US ALREADY KNOW ABOUT,
AND THE SOLUTION THAT I BELIEVE IS SITTING RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. 
          THIS PROPOSAL IS TO SOLVE THE MAYPORT ROAD FOOD COURT,
MAYPORT ROAD. 
          CORRIDOR. FOOD DESERT. LET'S START WITH THE PROBLEM. 
          MAYPORT ROAD IS A FOOD DESERT. WE ALL KNOW THIS. 
          THE NAS MAYPORT COMMISSARY IS RESTRICTED TO MILITARY FAMILIES. 
          FOOD LION CLOSED BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2012. TERRY'S COUNTRY STORE CLOSED IN 2022. 
          SINCE THEN, RESIDENTS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR HAVE BEEN RELYING ON CONVENIENCE STORES AND DRUG
STORES FOR GROCERIES. 
          SO THE GOAL HERE IS SIMPLE FRESH FOOD ACCESS ON THE CORRIDOR. 
          RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T EXIST. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA AND NEARBY POINTS OF
INTEREST THAT REPRESENT GROCERY STORES. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE ALL THOSE ARE. I WON'T ELABORATE ON THAT,
BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW SPREAD OUT THE EXISTING OPTIONS ARE AND HOW MUCH OF THIS MAP HAS NOTHING IN WALKING OR SHORT DRIVING DISTANCE TO FRESH GROCERIES. 
          THIS IS THE SITE 2880 MAYPORT ROAD. IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. 
          IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. SO THIS IS KIND OF A THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          THIS IS VERY HEARTFELT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREETS THAT SURROUND IT WONDERWOOD. 
          DRIVE. APOLLO. DRIVE. REGULUS. DRIVE. DARLENE. 
          DRIVE. BYRNE. DRIVE, PIONEER. DRIVE. THESE AREN'T ABSTRACT LINES ON A MAP. 
          THESE ARE FAMILIES THAT THIS STORE WOULD SERVE. 
          THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN A FEW BLOCKS OF A PIECE OF LAND THAT CURRENTLY SITS VACANT. 
          AND HERE'S THE OPPORTUNITY. THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH ALREADY OWNS THE SITE. 
          IT'S A 1.25 ACRE PARCEL. DG MARKET HAS EXISTING BUILDING DESIGNS AT APPROXIMATELY 8000
9000 AND 10,000FT², WHICH GIVES THEM REAL FLEXIBILITY TO COMFORTABLY FIT A STORE ON THIS EXACT PARCEL WITHOUT
NEEDING TO ASSEMBLE ADDITIONAL LAND OR GO LOOKING SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO WHAT EXACTLY IS A DG MARKET? IT'S A DOLLAR GENERAL EXPANDED FORMAT GROCERY CONCEPT
BUILT SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO FULL SERVICE SUPERMARKET. AND IT BRINGS FRESH FOOD INTO THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS EVERYDAY ESSENTIALS AT
PRICE POINTS DESIGNED TO HELP FAMILIES STRETCH THEIR BUDGET. 
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THIS ISN'T A STARTUP. DOLLAR GENERAL HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 85 YEARS. 
          FOUNDED IN 1939 WITH CURRENTLY 38.7 BILLION IN ANNUAL SALES,
THIS IS A COMPANY WITH A TRACK RECORD AND THE BALANCE SHEET TO DELIVER ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS. DG MARKET ISN'T A TRADITIONAL GROCERY STORE,
BUT IT'S NOT A CONVENIENCE STORE EITHER. 
          IT OFFERS AN EXPANDED ASSORTMENT OF FRESH FOOD ALONGSIDE THE EVERYDAY LOW PRICES DOLLAR
GENERAL IS KNOWN FOR. 
          THEY DEVELOP THEY'RE BETTER FOR YOU PROGRAM WITH A REGISTERED DIETITIAN THAT INCLUDES A
RECIPE LIBRARY AND AT SHELF NUTRITION LABEL, SO SHOPPERS CAN MAKE INFORMED CHOICES AND STRETCH THEIR BUDGET FURTHER. 
          I WANT YOU TO PICTURE WALKING INTO ONE OF THESE STORES. 
          FRESH PRODUCE, MEAT AND DAIRY CASES, COLD DRINKS AND EVERYDAY GROCERY ITEMS. A FRESH, AFFORDABLE BAKERY STOCKED DAILY. A BRIGHT,
FULLY STOCKED STORE THAT'S READY TO SERVE CUSTOMERS FROM DAY ONE. 
          THIS IS WHAT RESIDENTS ALONG MAYPORT ROAD WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER
A DECADE. 
          WHO ACTUALLY BUILDS THIS? TARA MOORE DEVELOPMENT IS THE CONTRACT BUILDER AND DEVELOPMENT
PARTNER FOR DOLLAR GENERAL AND DG MARKET PROJECTS ACROSS THE ENTIRE SOUTHEAST. 
          THEIR TEAM HANDLES SITE SELECTION, DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION FROM START TO FINISH. 
          THEY KNOW HOW TO EXECUTE THIS. THEY'VE BUILT OVER 700 STORES TO DATE FOR DOLLAR GENERAL. 
          BEYOND JUST GROCERIES, HERE'S WHY THIS MATTERS. 
          LOCALLY, EVERYDAY LOW PRICES ON FOOD AND HOUSEHOLD ESSENTIALS. 
          CLOSE TO HOME ROUGHLY 70% OF EMPLOYEES AT OR ABOVE THE LEAD SALES ASSOCIATE LEVEL WERE
PROMOTED FROM WITHIN, MEANING THIS CREATES A REAL PATH FOR HIRING LOCALLY AND ADVANCEMENT,
NOT JUST ENTRY LEVEL JOBS. 
          LOCAL NONPROFIT SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES CAN ALSO APPLY FOR GRANTS THROUGH DOLLAR GENERAL
LITERACY FOUNDATION. 
          A FULLY STOCKED STORE ON THIS CORNER MEANS ONGOING,
TANGIBLE IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT A ONE TIME ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          NEXT, DOLLAR GENERAL INVEST IN THE TOWNS THAT OPERATES IN. 
          SERVING OTHERS IS THE MISSION OF THE. THE COMPANY WAS BUILT ON,
AND IT'S STILL THE GUIDING FORCE TODAY. 
          DOLLAR GENERAL LITERACY FOUNDATION AWARDS GRANTS EVERY YEAR TO SUPPORT ADULT FAMILY,
YOUTH AND SUMMER LITERACY PROGRAMS. SINCE 1993, THE FOUNDATION HAS AWARDED $238 MILLION. 
          ENHANCING THE LIVES OF NEARLY 20 MILLION INDIVIDUALS. 
          THIS IS A COMPANY THAT SHOWS UP IN ITS COMMUNITIES WELL BEYOND JUST RUNNING A STORE. 
          NEXT, WE'RE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO EXPLORE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH TARA MOORE DEVELOPMENT
TO WORK TOWARDS A DG MARKET THAT SOLVES MAYPORT ROAD CORRIDOR, FOOD DESERT ONCE AND FOR ALL. WE'RE NOT ASKING TO APPROVE CONSTRUCTION TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU, THE GREEN LIGHT, TO LET THE CITY AND TARA MOORE BEGIN A REAL
CONVERSATION ABOUT TURNING THIS VACANT, CITY OWNED PARCEL INTO THE GROCERY STORE THIS COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR SINCE FOOD
LION CLOSED NEARLY 14 YEARS AGO. 
          LET'S BRING FRESH FOOD ACCESS BACK TO MAYPORT ROAD. 
          MY NAME IS RYAN NIX. MY PHONE NUMBER. SORRY. NEXT,
MY PHONE NUMBER AND EMAIL ARE ON THE SCREEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO REACH OUT TO ME FOR ANYTHING, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, MR. NIX. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR SOME QUESTIONS,
BUT I WANT TO START BY FILLING IN A COUPLE BLANKS. 
          SO I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW TO SOLVE THIS
PROBLEM. 
          AND YOU BROUGHT A SOLUTION. WHETHER THIS COMMISSION ADOPTS IT OR NOT WILL BE UP TO THE
COMMISSION. 
          BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW THINGS. HE HAS ADVANCED IT FAR ENOUGH THAT TARA MOORE HAS
ACTUALLY SENT AN OFFER TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY FOR $875,000. SO THIS IS NOT A GIVEAWAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR RESIDENTS,
MANY OF WHICH LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH. 
          THIS IS A AN OFFER TO SELL AT FAIR MARKET VALUE,
A PARCEL THAT CURRENTLY STANDS UNUSED, ITS SURPLUS PROPERTY. 
          IT ACTUALLY WAS ACQUIRED AS PART OF THE BUCCANEER SERVICE DISTRICT IN THE BUCCANEER
INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH INCLUDED THE THE LIFT STATION AND THE VACANT LOT AT THE INTERSECTION OF WONDERWOOD
AND MAYPORT ROAD. 
          BUT THIS PARCEL WAS ACQUIRED. I LOOKED IT UP AND I FINALLY GOT THE DISCOVERY TODAY. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY THE DEED IS IS DATED SEVERAL YEARS AFTER THE THE ACQUISITION OF BUCCANEER. 
          BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE OF A TITLE ISSUE OR SOMETHING. SO IT ACTUALLY WAS PART OF BUCCANEER. 
          AT LEAST MY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION WITH STAFF IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DESIGN OR,
OR USE FUTURE USE FOR IT. 
          NOW ALL LAND THAT THE CITY OWNS POTENTIALLY HAS FUTURE USE. 
          AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD NOT GIVE AWAY LAND OR SELL LAND WITHOUT
CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. 
          I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS TODAY BECAUSE AT THE END OF THIS,
IF WE GET FAVORABLE ANSWERS TO SOME QUESTIONS, 
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I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE AGENDA ON TO GIVE CONSENSUS TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE
CITY ATTORNEY TO ENGAGE WITH TARA MOORE AND SEE IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A CONTRACT THAT ULTIMATELY WOULD ONLY BE RATIFIED BY THIS COMMISSION. 
          SO IF WE DO THAT TODAY, IT'S NOT A FINAL DECISION. 
          IT'S A DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THERE'S THERE ARE THINGS THAT MUST BE DISCUSSED,
LIKE DO WE DO A PROPERTY APPRAISAL TO VALIDATE THE SALES PRICE? WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULD DO A PROPERTY APPRAISAL OR TWO. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE NEGOTIATED BASED ON COUNCIL ENGAGING ON THAT. 
          WHAT CONDITIONS DO WE PUT IN? ONE THING THAT WAS MENTIONED TO ME TODAY IS DO YOU PUT A
CONDITION TO ENSURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY DEVELOP IT AS A DG MARKET? IMAGINE IF WE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO AN ENTITY AND THEY TURNED AROUND AND FLIPPED IT FOR A
PROFIT. 
          THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT. SO THESE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP IT OCCURS TO ME THAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY,
BUT THAT IT'S IT'S NOT HELPING. 
          ATLANTIC BEACH IT'S IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. WHY WOULD WE DO IT? AND I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK FOR ME AND YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. 
          I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND BELONG TO THE CITY,
OR THEY'RE OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          AND WHETHER THEY'RE CITIZENS DIRECTLY OF ATLANTIC BEACH OR NOT,
THEY INTERACT, THEY WORK HERE, WE WORK THERE. AND THEN FINALLY IS I THINK IT'S JUST AN UNBELIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY TO
ACTUALLY SOLVE A PROBLEM FOR MAYPORT VILLAGE. 
          MAYPORT VILLAGE, THEIR CLOSEST OPPORTUNITY FOR GROCERIES IS THE NEW ALDI'S,
WHICH WAS WINN-DIXIE. 
          SECOND BEST WOULD BE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO MONUMENT ROAD ON WONDERWOOD. 
          AND THAT'S EVEN FARTHER AWAY. AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A COMMISSARY THAT SERVES THE BASE,
THE COMMISSARY HAS LIMITED HOURS TO ACCESS. SO IF IT'S 7:00 AT NIGHT AND YOU NEED TO RUN,
GET SOME GROCERIES FOR THE FAMILY. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE COMMISSARY. SO THIS IS A SOLUTION THERE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT TO DISCOVER ON THIS. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT BECAUSE THAT'S
YOUR DOING, AND I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR THE CITY AND FOR YOU. 
          BUT LET'S OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. YES, COMMISSIONER. 
          SAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. NIX, FOR THIS PROPOSAL. 
          VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. FROM THE SECOND I STEPPED IN IN 22. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD THE MOST IN MY AREA WAS THE DESERT. 
          THE FOOD DESERT. SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT CAOJ AND THEIR ZONING. 
          ARE THERE ANY HICCUPS WITH THAT? IS IT ZONED FOR GROCERY? AND IT, THE FACT THAT IT IS A GROCERY BECOMING A GROCERY HOW BIG IS THE LOT SIZE ITSELF? SO THE LOT WILL IT FIT IN THOSE? I'LL START THERE. 
          THE LOT SIZE IS 1.25 ACRES. SO IT'S LIKE 5500 APPROXIMATELY SQUARE FEET. 
          THE WHAT WAS THE FIRST ZONING? THE ZONING CODE. 
          ZONING IS NOT CURRENTLY ZONED FOR A GROCERY STORE. 
          OKAY. HOWEVER, WHEN THE DEVELOPER LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY,
THEY, LIKE I MENTIONED, THEY'VE BUILT 700 AND SOMETHING STORES OVER THE LAST 1015 YEARS. 
          BUT THEY THEY SAW NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER BECAUSE YOU HAVE CG TWO ZONING SURROUNDING THE
PROPERTY. 
          SO IT'S REALLY ZONED THE WAY IT IS BECAUSE NO ONE'S ASKED TO CHANGE IT AT THIS POINT. 
          WE EXPECT ZERO WOULD TEAR ZERO PUSHBACK. AND LET ME LET ME ADD TO THAT. 
          THERE NOW DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR LIKE A MOBILE HOME. 
          YEAH. WHO WANTS ANOTHER MOBILE HOME PARK ON MAYPORT ROAD? BUT I ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO MAYOR DEEGAN LAST WEEK TO GET HER INVOLVED IN THE EVENT THAT
WE MOVE FORWARD, SHE'LL ENSURE THE VOICE COMES FROM HER TO HER DEPARTMENT. 
          BECAUSE THAT'S AN EASY CHANGE ON THE ZONING. OKAY. 
          YEAH. I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WOULD BE A HICCUP THERE IF WE DO ALL OF THIS. 
          AND OF COURSE, COUNCIL, I'M SURE YOU'VE LOOKED INTO IT. 
          YEAH. AND TO MAYBE PIGGYBACK ON THIS, THE TWO THINGS ON THAT WE WOULD DO TO PRESERVE THE
RIGHTS AND THE, OBVIOUSLY THE PROTECTIONS OF ATLANTIC BEACH NUMBER ONE,
BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND IT'S IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. 
          WE'RE BASICALLY IN THE STATUS OF JUST A REGULAR PROPERTY OWNER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
JURISDICTIONAL, YOU KNOW, VALUE OVER THAT. SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT THE ZONING. IT IS CITY OF
JACKSONVILLE, BUT WE WOULD DO TWO THINGS. ONE, WE WOULD IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS,
I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF, BUT IF WE DID THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULD COME TO, WE WOULD PUT THE ONUS ON THE BUYER TO GET ALL THE ENTITLEMENTS FROM THE CITY OF
JACKSONVILLE. 
          SO THAT'D BE ONE THING TO TO DO A SUPERMARKET OR A GROCERY STORE. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND THING WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD WE WOULD REQUIRE AS A TITLE OWNER THAT'S
SELLING TO ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER, A USE RESTRICTION. SO IN ADDITION TO THE ZONING,
WE WOULD WANT FOR THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH AND EASTER [INAUDIBLE], 
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BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS THING IS THE GROCERY IS A GROCERY
STORE. SO WE WOULD PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE USE WOULD BE, WHICH WOULD BE BEYOND THE ZONE. AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. I KNOW I HEARD MAYOR SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE PART
OF THE INTENT. 
          THEY HAVE $2 STORES ON MAYPORT AS IT IS. THEY DON'T NEED THAT. 
          THEY NEED PRODUCE. THEY NEED FRESH MEAT. THEY NEED A GROCERY STORE. 
          AND WITH 1.2 ACRES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LARGE ONE. 
          SO THIS IS A QUESTION I'M CURIOUS, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE CLOSEST DG GROCERY STORE IS? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN IN ONE, I DO THE CLOSEST IS ACTUALLY ON NORMANDY BOULEVARD,
NORMANDY. 
          OKAY. JUST CURIOUS, I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN AND SEE IF I MEAN,
THE PICTURES LOOK FANTASTIC. 
          AND I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE, I HEARD A CITIZEN COME UP HERE AND SAY A REAL GROCERY STORE. 
          BUT I THINK WHEN PEOPLE SEE THESE PICTURES AND MAYBE MAYBE HEAR D DG,
THEY MAYBE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DOLLAR GENERAL WITH SOME SNACKS, BUT BASED ON YOUR PICTURES, THAT'S MUCH MORE THAN THAT. 
          IT'S AN ACTUAL GROCERY STORE FITTING THIS DEMOGRAPHIC JUST PERFECTLY. 
          AND LET ME JUST SAY, I'VE ALREADY DONE MY OWN FIELD TRIP. 
          THEY JUST OPENED THE DOORS A MONTH AGO IN EAST PALATKA. 
          AND I WENT TO THAT STORE AND I WAS AMAZED WHEN I WALKED IN. 
          THEY HAVE SHELVES WITH BANANAS AND BROCCOLI AND OTHER PRODUCE PRODUCE. 
          SO THAT'S A KEY DISTINCTION BETWEEN A DOLLAR STORE AND A A. 
          A D I'M SORRY, A DOLLAR GENERAL AND A DG MARKET. 
          BUT THEY HAD ALL KINDS OF FOOD IN THIS STORE. 
          AND SO I'M USED TO GOING, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN IN DOLLAR STORES,
WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR GENERAL OR A DOLLAR STORE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL HAVE MILK AND THEY'LL HAVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE REFRIGERATED AND
THEY'LL HAVE CEREAL AND THAT TYPE OF THING. 
          THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT CONCEPT. AND I THINK THE PHOTOS THAT YOU SHOWED WERE PRETTY
GOOD. 
          BUT YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM BLOWN UP. YOU'D START TO SEE ALL OF THE THE PRODUCE THAT'S
EXISTING IN THE STORE. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER. YEAH. SO I LOVE THE CONCEPT. 
          IT GETS RID OF THE FOOD DESERT. I ALSO THINK I LOVE THE COMMUNITY ASPECT. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY A NICE SHOT IN THE ARM FOR MAYPORT MIDDLE IN TERMS OF,
YOU KNOW, FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY GRAVITATE TOWARDS IS
HELPING CHILDREN WITH LITERACY AND, AND WHATNOT. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT A DG MARKET WAS,
YOU KNOW, A WEEK AGO I MENTIONED IT TO MY JUST IN THE HOUSE AND MY WIFE GOES, WELL, NO, THERE'S ONES UP IN KINGSLAND, GEORGIA WHERE WE,
WE HAVE FAMILY UP THERE. 
          SO SHE AND I GO UP THERE QUITE A BIT AND SHE HAD BEEN IN THAT ONE. 
          IT'S VERY NICE, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTS THE PICTURES THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED. 
          THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW,
IF YOU COULD ELABORATE AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY DG MARKET, WHY NOT A WALMART MARKET OR,
YOU KNOW, SMALLER VERSION OF THE PUBLIX, WHICH WE HAD WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE TWO WE GOT TWO PUBLIX IS UP THERE. 
          YOU KNOW, AN ALDI. YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE STORES REQUIRE A MUCH LARGER FOOTPRINT THAN
WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          BUT IF YOU COULD KIND OF COMMENT ON WHAT YOU'RE REALLY WOULD FIT,
WHAT OTHER MARKETS COULD POTENTIALLY FIT THERE? YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT,
THERE'S NOT ANOTHER COMPANY THAT HAS A SMALL SCALE GROCERY STORE MODEL. 
          THEY JUST, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW OF TERRY'S COUNTRY STORE. 
          TERRY'S COUNTRY STORE WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE. AND BUT,
BUT THE, YOU KNOW, AN ALDI'S IS 20,000FT². 
          A WALMART MARKET IS 20. YOU KNOW, THEY NEED 3 TO 5 ACRES TYPICALLY TO DEVELOP THAT PROVIDE
RETENTION PARKING. 
          YEAH. ACCESS. THERE'S A LOT OF PROBABLY WHEN WE GET DIG INTO THE SITE PLANNING OF THIS. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INPUT INTO PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AS WELL,
AND WALKING WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THE STORE. 
          AND SOME PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE DON'T DRIVE. YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING FROM MINDANAO,
LIKE DOWN MAYPORT ELEMENTARY, WALKING WITH GROCERY BAGS TO WALGREENS, GOING DOWN THE SIDEWALK EVERY DAY. 
          YEAH. SO IF WE ISSUED SOME SORT OF RF P OR WHATNOT FOR THAT PROPERTY YOU KNOW,
WE WOULDN'T HAVE MANY TAKERS. 
          IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE TO ME, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE ANY TAKERS THAT HAVE A SMALL
SCALE GROCERY CONCEPT. 
          YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LIMITING IT TO MAYBE GROCERY,
SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO PUT A WAREHOUSE THERE. 
          YEAH. SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT THE BASE. 
          YEAH. BUT NO DOLLAR GENERAL, JUST FOR SOME SCALE,
THEY HAVE 2100 $0 GENERAL OR DOLLAR 2000 STORES IN THE 48 STATES FIVE YEARS AGO, WHEN THEY STARTED DEVELOPING THE DOLLAR GENERAL MARKETS. 
          TO DATE, THEY HAVE 2000 OF THEM IN THE COUNTRY. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY KIND OF THEIR DIRECTION, BECAUSE THERE WAS A POINT WHERE DOLLAR
GENERAL'S GROWTH WAS TREMENDOUS. 
          THOUSANDS OF STORES OVER IN A YEAR. AND NOW,
AS SOMETHING THAT I DO IS SITE SELECTION FOR TERAMAR AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER, 
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IS TRY TO FIND NEW PLACES TO PUT A STORE AND IT'S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE. 
          IT REALLY, REALLY IS. AND THE REASON YOU FIND PLACES WHERE THERE ARE NO STORES IS BECAUSE
THERE'S NO LAND. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO. COMMISSIONER BOLE. 
          YEAH, ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT A MAP IN THE AREA THAT SURROUNDS
THAT SOMEONE THAT GOES TO THE COMMISSARY, RIGHT? WHAT DO YOU SEE OUT FRONT REGULARLY? THE FLEET LANDING BUS IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP. 
          RIGHT. FLEET LANDING RESIDENTS WOULD BE LOCALS TO THAT STORE. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE GENERAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF IT AND THEY GO THERE,
THEY COME OUT OF THE BUS AND YOU WOULD THINK, HEY, ALL THEIR FOOD IS SERVICED AT A LOT OF THEM GO AND THEY VISIT LOCAL GROCERY STORES. 
          SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A PLUS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ATLANTIC BEACH RESIDENTS. 
          YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING PROBABLY WITHIN, ACCORDING TO MY MAP,
WITHIN A MILE OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE. 
          SO I THINK THAT WOULD WOULD SERVE US ANOTHER GROUP. 
          YEAH. COMMISSIONER. RING. JUST ONE MORE THING. 
          AND THIS IS PROBABLY FOR COUNCIL OR MAYBE CITY MANAGER IF HE KNOWS THAT YET. 
          WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AS FAR AS HOW MUCH WE COULD GET OFF OF THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE DEBT WE
COULD PAY DOWN. 
          THAT'S A GREAT POINT. WELL THEY OFFER RIGHT NOW IS 875,000. 
          OKAY. 850. AND IF WE WROTE A CONTRACT, A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO AN
APPRAISAL WE WIN OR LOSE ON THAT DEPENDING UPON WHETHER THE APPRAISAL CAME IN ABOVE OR BELOW. 
          BUT THAT PROBABLY IS THE PRUDENT WAY TO APPROACH IT. 
          REAL QUICK, WHAT ARE THE TAXES ON THAT PROPERTY? WELL, WE DON'T PAY ANY TAXES AS A CITY, SO I'M SORRY. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS. DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT? I DON'T MEAN TO NEGOTIATE RIGHT HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD I WOULD PROPOSE BECAUSE
YOU'RE YOU GUYS ARE BRINGING UP THESE POINTS, VERY GOOD POINTS. AND IT'S JUST SORT OF INSPIRING SOME THOUGHTS. 
          YOU COULD DO SOMETHING IN THERE WHERE THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED PURCHASE PRICE THAT LOOKS
LIKE THAT. 
          WE WOULD WRITE INTO THAT, BUT THEN THERE'D BE A REQUIREMENT FOR AN APPRAISAL. 
          IF THAT APPRAISAL CAME IN WAY HIGHER, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE PURCHASE PRICE CAME IN WAY
LOWER THAN WOULD CHANGE. 
          RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE TRICKY PART OF IT. I REMEMBER WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR,
BUT THIS WAS US PURCHASING LAND AND MARSH OAKS AREA FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER. SO YES. COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, AGAIN,
I'M GOING BACK IN TIME HERE. 
          WHEN WE PASSED THE CHARTER, DID WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WE COULDN'T SELL PARKS LAND? CORRECT. WE DID. I THINK THAT'S A LEGALITY THAT WE MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO IS A LAND SALE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO THERE ARE I WAS LOOKING IN OUR SO THERE'S STATE LAW WHICH
REALLY IS OPEN ENDED FOR CITIES. 
          COUNTIES ACTUALLY HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS TO PUT AN RFP OUT OR WHAT HAVE YOU. 
          CITIES HAVE A LITTLE MORE FREEDOM. HAVING SAID THAT,
YOU'VE GOT TO FIND A PUBLIC BENEFIT, PUBLIC PURPOSE. 
          SO THEN THE NEXT STEP IS YOUR CHARTER AND YOUR CODE. 
          AND THE ONLY THING I COULD SEE WAS WHAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP. 
          SO I, YOU KNOW, AND I LOOK AT IT AGAIN, BUT IS THAT IS THIS A DESIGNATED PARK PROPERTY? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T KNOW, BUT BUT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF I WOULD
CALL THEM YOU KNOW, THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND THAT THAT'D BE ONE OF THEM. I DON'T FROM A FIRST BLUSH,
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WOULD APPLY, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY HATE TO SEE A CHALLENGE FROM SOMEONE TO THE CHARTER AND THEN
GOING, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK IT CAME UTILITY PURCHASE. 
          YES IT DID. YEAH. THAT WAS PART OF THE BUCCANEER. 
          YEAH. OKAY. GREAT QUESTIONS. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ON IT,
CAN I GET A CONSENSUS FROM THE COMMISSION TO AT LEAST HAND THIS OFF TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO DISCUSS AND EVEN NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT TO
BRING BEFORE THIS BODY FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND FURTHER AND POTENTIAL RATIFICATION. YES. COMMISSIONER. 
          QUESTION WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME FRAME OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN,
YOU'VE GOT EXPERIENCE IN THIS. SO THE TIME FRAME AND THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO I DIDN'T REALLY GET TO THIS WHEN JESSICA'S QUESTION, BUT THEY THE THE TIME. 
          SO I SHOULD CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT EXACTLY TO ACTUALLY BE OPEN. 
          EXACTLY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM PROBABLY 2 OR 3 MONTHS TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 30 DAYS AND IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE TEN
MONTHS. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR, 12 TO 14 MONTHS BEFORE IT'S OPEN. YEAH. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. SORRY. I THINK I JUST HAVE TO MAKE THIS COMMENT. 
          AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS CONCEPT, ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS,
YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S JUST A SPECULATOR TRYING TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY AND DO A GOOD THING, AT? WHAT'S THE DEPTH AND THE STRENGTH OF THAT ENTITY? WHEN I THINK ABOUT A DOLLAR GENERAL AND THIS IS THEIR CONCEPT,
THE DG MARKET, THEY'VE DONE HUNDREDS OF THESE. 
          THEY ALREADY HAVE PLANS ON THE SHELF. THEY HAVE TO ENGINEER THEM TO LOCAL CODES AND OF
COURSE, FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND SO ON. BUT THEY CAN THEY COULD TAKE A PLAN OFF A SET OF PLANS
OFF THE SHELF AND BE READY TO GO WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS, 
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DEPENDING UPON THEIR ZONING REQUESTS AND SO ON WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. 
          SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS COULD, I THINK, MOVE? I'M NOT I THINK YOU'RE AGGRESSIVE ON YOUR
TIMELINE, BUT I THINK IT COULD MOVE PRETTY DARN FAST. YEAH. 
          THEY THEY HAVE PLANS READY TO GO. SO THE, THE DELAY OR ANY DELAY THAT WOULD COME FROM
GETTING THE PROPER ZONING CHANGES. 
          YEAH. WOULD BE SHORTENED BY 90 DAYS FROM YOUR TYPICAL DEVELOPER WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO HIRE
AN ENGINEER AND ARCHITECT OR DESIGNER OR ANY OF THAT, ALL THAT IS DONE. SO IT'S JUST THAT PRELIMINARY WORK AND THEN SUBMITTING THE THE BUILDING
PLANS TO THE CITY. 
          GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. SO CAN WE BRING SOMETHING BACK? OH,
BRING BACK A REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING. 
          YOU MAY NOT BE READY TO BRING AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT,
BUT. 
          SURE. I MEAN, I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO NEXT IS KEVIN AND I WILL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER,
START PLANNING. 
          I THINK THERE'D BE A DISCUSSION OF A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT DRAFT THAT WE WOULD HAVE, AND WE'LL HAVE TO JUST NEGOTIATE THAT UNTIL IT'S READY. 
          BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MR.. MR. NIX. THANK YOU SIR. YEP. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          ITEM SIX. SPECIFIC, ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE
ROUTINE. 
          THE COMMISSIONERS REPORTS. DID I MISS THAT? I,
I YEAH, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD COME BACK TO THAT. 
          LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH YOU, MR. BOLE. THANK YOU. 
          ON THE FOOD TOPIC I HAD CIRCLED HERE LONG BEFORE THIS,
THAT I THINK THAT OUR FARMERS MARKET IS A BIG SUCCESS. 
          IT IS WALK OR WALK AROUND THERE ON SUNDAY AND YOU SEE A LOT MORE FOOD,
YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          SO EVERYONE THAT I TALKED TO, IT'S BEEN A SPENT SOME TIME. 
          THEY'RE REALLY POSITIVE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER GRANT. COMMISSIONER KELLY. OH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR KEVIN. 
          WE GOT SOMEONE WHO WAS DENIED OR NOT SELECTED ON A COMPETITIVE BID. 
          AND THEY THEY WROTE US AND SAID, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE,
THAT'S NOT FAIR. 
          SO YOU CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? CERTAINLY AGENDA ITEM EIGHT A IS WHAT THE THE THE COMPANY THAT IS DISPUTING OUR SELECTED CONTRACTOR IS ADDRESSING WE DID NOT, WE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDING THE LOW BIDDER IN THIS
CASE. 
          THIS HAS TO DO WITH OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE EXISTING THE SECOND HIGHEST BIDDER AND OUR
EXPERIENCE WITH THE LOW BIDDER. 
          AND WE I READ THAT CAME IN LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND DID SOME DUE DILIGENCE AND STEADFASTLY
STAND BY OUR RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST BID ON THIS PROJECT. 
          YEAH, I KNOW THE GOVERNMENT USES THE TERMS BEST VALUE AND LPTA LOWEST PRICE TECHNICALLY
ACCEPTABLE. 
          DO WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN OUR RFI? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU WOULD
WANT TO DO, WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED IS BEST VALUE, RIGHT? CITY PICKED THE BEST VALUE CONTRACT, NOT LPTA BECAUSE LPTA COULD GET YOU RIGHT. 
          WE WE DO, WE DO. AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE JARGON YOU DO,
WE DO PUT IN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SELECT BECAUSE I THINK THE LOWEST PRICE. YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING,
I MEAN, THERE'S DIFFERENT ACRONYMS THAT OBVIOUSLY, AND MILITARY IS PROBABLY EVEN MORE. BUT I KNOW PATTY DRAKE IS VERY GOOD ABOUT ESTABLISHING
IN THE RFP OR RFP OR WHATEVER IT IS, THE STANDARDS, SOMETIMES IT'S BEST PRICE, SOMETIMES IT ISN'T YADA,
YADA. 
          RIGHT. BUT THAT WOULD PROTECT US. YEAH, WE, WE'RE COVERED FROM THAT ASPECT AND,
AND AND THAT'S WE, WE LOOK AT EVERY BID CLOSELY. WE ALMOST ALWAYS BRING BACK THE LOW BID. 
          AND THIS IS ONE OF THE RARE CASES WHERE IT'S NOT THE LOW BID. 
          THANKS, THANKS. AND THE, THE GUN ISSUE THAT THAT JASON WAS LOOKING INTO. 
          YES. COMMISSIONER KELLY IS REFERENCING A COMMUNICATION WE RECEIVED REGARDING THE OPEN
STATE OPEN CARRY LAW. 
          WE INDEED SEE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO UPDATE OUR CODE AND WE'RE DOING THAT ACCORDINGLY. 
          AND, AND CONCURRENTLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TAKING APPROPRIATE ACTION TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING IN CONFLICT WITH STATE LAW. 
          DID I DESCRIBE THAT WELL? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO THERE IS A MEMORANDUM THAT WAS ISSUED
IMMEDIATELY THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT WE'RE FULLY PREEMPTED BY THE STATE, WHICH WE ARE IN TERMS OF FIREARMS SPECIFICALLY THE OUR CHIEF OF POLICE HAS ALREADY PUT OUT
A MEMORANDUM TO THAT EFFECT AND DO EXPECT A, AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL STRIKE THROUGH AND CLEAN. 
          IT'S A IT'S A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN SITTING ON OUR BOOKS FOR A LONG TIME. 
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AND LAWS HAVE CHANGED OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AND SO I DO THINK YOU'LL BE SEEING PROBABLY AS SOON AS THE NEXT MEETING,
A STRIKE THROUGH THAT CLARIFIES THAT. 
          BUT IN THE INTERIM, THE MEMORANDUM HAS STOPPED THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT PARTICULAR
PROVISION. 
          ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M DONE. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER RING. OH, I WENT FIRST. 
          NO. I'M GOOD. I HAVE NOTHING MORE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT, SO I'M GOOD TO. AND WE'LL MOVE TO CONSENT AGENDA. 
          [6. CONSENT AGENDA ]
ALL MATTERS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE BY THE CITY
COMMISSION AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION IN THE FORM LISTED BELOW. 
          THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS. IF DISCUSSION IS DESIRED, THAT ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WILL BE
CONSIDERED SEPARATELY. 
          SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED TO THE
CITY COMMISSION ON THESE ITEMS. ITEM SIX A APPROVED RESOLUTION NUMBERS 26-946B APPROVED. 
          RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-95 AND SIX C APPROVED. RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-99. 
          WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE THREE RESOLUTIONS FROM THIS CONSENT AGENDA? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26,
94, 26, 95, AND 26, 99. ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY WITH I. 
          I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BOLE. 
          [7.A.    Environmental Stewardship Committee Semi-Annual Report]
LET'S SEE. SEVEN AYE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE SEMIANNUAL REPORT. 
          COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. OH, DONNA,
DO YOU HAVE THE SLIDES FOR EVERYONE? THIS IS AMY PALMER, THE CHAIR OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU. 
          KEVIN. SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE THE SEMIANNUAL REPORT TO THE COMMISSION ON OUR
ACTIVITIES. 
          AND I'LL SHARE DETAILS FROM THE TIME PERIOD OF JANUARY THROUGH JUNE 2026. 
          SO LET'S SEE, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS IS OUR CURRENT ROSTER. 
          WE HAVE A FULL NINE MEMBER ROSTER RIGHT NOW. OUR NEWEST MEMBER MATT MATILLA JOINED IN
APRIL. 
          BUT NEARLY HALF OF OUR MEMBERSHIP WILL EITHER TERM OUT OR ROLL OFF AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WE'RE LOSING THREE OF OUR LONGEST SERVING MEMBERS SARAH BOREN,
DAN GIOVANNUCCI AND BRUCE ANDREWS, ALONG WITH THE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AMY FRANKIE. ALL FOUR ARE WORKING HARD TO COMPLETE THEIR
PRIORITY ASSIGNMENTS PRIOR TO THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          CONTINUING TO SERVE IN 2027 WILL BE ANASTASIA HOUSTON,
CHRISTINA KOLKHORST, MATT MATILDA, TODD MINOR, AND MYSELF. ACCORDING TO CHAPTER 23,
ESC MEMBERSHIP MUST INCLUDE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM EACH OF THE DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO THE GREATEST NEED IS FOR CANDIDATES FROM 1307 AND 1312. 
          IF YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW ANY STRONG CANDIDATES FOR THE SC. 
          SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE ESC'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE
TWO REQUESTS FOR SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION NEEDED BY THE SC TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR WORK. 
          FIRST HAS TO DO WITH CHAPTER 23. WE'RE SO PLEASED WITH THE RECENT PASSAGE OF THE LANDMARK
TREE ORDINANCE. 
          PART OF THE STATED PHASED APPROACH TO REVISING AND IMPROVING CHAPTER 23. 
          AND WE STAND READY TO SUPPORT THE COMMISSION WITH THE REMAINING PHASE TWO UPDATES TO
CHAPTER 23, WHICH WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD BY STAFF. AND THEN THE TREE FUND BUDGET. 
          SECONDLY, WE SEEK THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL OF THE TREE FUND BUDGET. 
          THE TREE FUND BALANCE NOW STANDS AT $600,000,
WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          THE ESC HAS THOUGHTFULLY PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THESE FUNDS,
WHICH STAFF WILL BRING TO YOU IN THE FORM OF A RESOLUTION AS SOON AS YOUR NEXT MEETING. AND INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED TREE FUND BUDGET ARE INCENTIVES,
SUCH AS A HERITAGE TREE GRANT PROGRAM TO SUPPORT CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF OUR MOST SPECIAL TREES PRESERVATION,
SUCH AS TREE INVENTORY SOFTWARE TO HELP US TRACK CANOPY LOSS AND GAINS. YOU JUST HEARD OF SOME IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS WOULD BE,
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME DATA. 
          THIS WOULD THIS WOULD MEAN BETTER DATA ALSO OUTREACH,
SUCH AS THE BIENNIAL STATE OF THE CANOPY REPORT. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS ARE TO GO TO TREE PLANTINGS,
INCLUDING IDENTIFIED AREAS IN THE RIGHTS OF WAY THAT DESPERATELY NEED SHADE ALONG 
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WITH TREE ESTABLISHMENT SUCH AS THE CRUCIAL COST OF WATERING NEWLY PLANTED TREES. 
          OKAY, SO NEXT SLIDE. SO JUST AS A REMINDER BY ORDINANCE,
THE ROLE IS TWOFOLD. 
          OUR FIRST PURPOSE IS TO RESEARCH AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          IN WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY'S MARITIME FOREST PARKS AND OPEN SPACES,
BEAUTIFICATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES AND ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. AND THEN NEXT SLIDE. 
          OUR SECOND PURPOSE IS TO ACT AS A MOTIVATING AND COORDINATING BODY TO ENCOURAGE JOINT
PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTICIPATION IN PROMOTING THESE PURPOSES. SO ESSENTIALLY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEPARTMENT PUT FORWARD A $2,500
REQUEST IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR OUTREACH ITEMS. THAT MIGHT INCLUDE THINGS SUCH AS A OYSTER WORKSHOP FOR RESIDENTS AS PART OF THE MARSH PILOT VERTICAL OYSTER GARDEN. 
          SO NEXT I'LL SHARE SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ESC'S WORK FROM THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE
YEAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. AND YOUR AGENDA PACKET INCLUDES A FULL CHRONOLOGICAL LISTING OF ALL THE
THINGS WE'VE DONE THE FIRST SIX MONTHS. 
          BUT I'M JUST GOING TO SHARE A FEW. SO WITH THE MARITIME FOREST,
OF COURSE, THE PASSAGE OF THE LANDMARK TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE YEAR. BUT ALONG WITH THAT IS THE CITY'S HIRE OF A STAFF ARBORIST. 
          AND THIS HAS BEEN A RECOMMENDATION OF THE ESC SINCE I JOINED THE COMMITTEE EIGHT YEARS
AGO. 
          AND ALREADY CHRIS DELK IS REALLY MAKING A DIFFERENCE,
FOR EXAMPLE, WITH, WITH HERITAGE TREE APPLICATIONS. 
          WE HAVE ALREADY HAD 11 DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR,
ALL ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS A BIG INCREASE. ALMOST EVERY MEETING WE SEE SOME HERITAGE TREE DESIGNATIONS. 
          AND THEN HE'S ALSO IMPLEMENTING ANOTHER ESC RECOMMENDATION. 
          WE WERE CALLING IT ARBORIST FOR DAY. CHRIS IS CALLING IT THE LEAF AND LIMB CHECKS. 
          AND SO WITH THIS, IF RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT A TREE,
CHRIS CAN COME AND LOOK AND HAVE A MASTER ARBORIST ASSESSMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, FREE FROM BEING WITH A TREE COMPANY,
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT MIGHT HAVE A PROFIT MOTIVE. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE ESC HAS A CAMPAIGN IN THIS CENTENNIAL YEAR TO PLANT 100 TREES FOR 100
YEARS THROUGH THE FREE FRONT YARD, TREE PLANTINGS AND MAYOR, I THINK. THANK YOU FOR SIGNING UP,
I BELIEVE YOU. 
          YES, I DO SIGNED UP AND MY TREES AND THESE WILL BE COMING SOON. 
          YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS IT IT COOLS OFF AGAIN. OKAY,
SO SECONDLY, PARKS AND OPEN SPACES. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO FOR THE MARSH PILOT PROJECT,
THE ESC HAS BEEN MEETING WITH THE CITY ENGINEER. 
          AND WE HAVE ALSO LINED UP AN OUTREACH PROJECT WITH A NONPROFIT CALLED JAX. 
          JAX. OYSTER. I'M SORRY, I'VE FORGOTTEN THE THE NAME,
BUT ANYWAY, WE WOULD WORK WITH RESIDENTS ON THE MARSH SIDE TO BUILD VERTICAL OYSTER GARDENS TO HANG FROM THEIR DOCKS AND TO HELP ENCOURAGE
OYSTER RESTORATION. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO, WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN TOWN HALLS AND WE WILL,
WITH UPCOMING CHARRETTES TO HELP INFORM THE NEXT PARKS MASTER PLAN. 
          WE'RE ALSO LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR VOLUNTEER FRIENDS OF THE PARKS GROUPS. 
          ONE EXAMPLE IS THROUGH ITS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FRIENDS OF HOWELL PARK ON A WEED WRANGLE
WHERE 35 VOLUNTEERS FILLED 50, 32 GALLON TRASH BINS FULL OF THREE DIFFERENT INVASIVE SPECIES,
AND THEN FOLLOWED UP WITH A NATIVE PLANTING OF 300 NATIVE PLANTS ADDING 11 NEW NATIVE SPECIES TO HOWELL PARK. OKAY. 
          AND THEN THIRDLY, BEAUTIFICATION OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SPACES. 
          A FOCUS ON FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND FLORIDA NATIVE PLANTINGS IS BECOMING AN IMPORTANT FOCUS OF
THE ESC AND LEADING BY EXAMPLE, THE CITY HALL CAMPUS UNDERWENT A REVIEW BY UF IFAS IN JUNE,
AS DID SOME ESC MEMBERS WITH THEIR OWN YARDS AND. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THESE REVIEWS IS TO IDENTIFY PRACTICES SUCH AS WATERING,
USE OF CHEMICALS AND PESTICIDES, AND PLANT SELECTION THAT WILL INFLUENCE THE HEALTH OF POLLINATORS,
BIRDS AND OTHER WILDLIFE AS WELL AS HUMANS. 
          AND I DID NOTE THAT ONE OF OUR ONE OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS DID TALK ABOUT THE DIRE
STATE OF THE 
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AQUIFER AND CHANGING OUR LANDSCAPE PRACTICES WILL DEFINITELY HELP WITH WATER USAGE. 
          I BELIEVE 50 OR 60% OF OUR POTABLE WATER ACTUALLY GOES TO WATER LAWNS IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA. 
          SO WE CAN WE CAN DO BETTER. THE PILOT FILM SERIES ALSO ADDRESSED THESE TOPICS. 
          AND THEN FOURTHLY, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. 
          ATLANTIC BEACH JOINED AUDUBON'S LIGHTS OUT CAMPAIGN THROUGH MAYORAL PROCLAMATION,
AND ALSO BY FEATURING THE TOPIC AT ONE OF ITS QUARTERLY SPEAKER SERIES, ALONG WITH THE BEACHES SEA TURTLE PATROL, WHICH ALSO NEEDS LIGHTS OUT ALONG THE BEACH. 
          SO BABY SEA TURTLES WON'T BECOME DISORIENTED AND LIGHTS OUT SEEKS TO PROTECT MIGRATORY
BIRDS FROM COLLISIONS WITH BUILDINGS, AND THE EFFORT IS ALSO PROTECTIVE TO EVENING POLLINATORS. 
          AND WE'D LIKE TO. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE EMPHASIZE OUR PARTICIPATION IN MINECRAFT. 
          SO MINECRAFT IS THE MOST PLAYED VIDEO GAME IN THE WORLD AND PLAYERS CAN EXPLORE AND BUILD
A VIRTUAL WORLD MADE UP OF BLOCKS. 
          IT EMPHASIZES CREATIVITY, PROBLEM SOLVING, AND COLLABORATION. 
          AND THIS LOCAL MINECRAFT OPPORTUNITY THAT THE ESC PARTICIPATED IN INVOLVED RAISING $5,000
IN SPONSORSHIPS IN ORDER TO INCLUDE A PROJECT FEATURING ATLANTIC BEACH AND THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE MAYOR'S MINECRAFT CHALLENGE. 
          SO ATLANTIC BEACH IS NOW IMMORTALIZED IN MINECRAFT THROUGH A PROJECT TO IMAGINE THE NEW
MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER AS A RESILIENCY HUB, WHICH IS A PLACE THAT PROVIDES CRITICAL NEEDS DURING AN EXTREME WEATHER EMERGENCY EVENT. 
          AND KIDS AROUND THE WORLD CAN NOW TRY THE MARSH OAKS COMMUNITY CENTER PROJECT IN
MINECRAFT, AND ESC MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF SPOKE AND SERVED AS VOLUNTEER JUDGES FOR THIS CITYWIDE
EVENT THAT WAS HELD AT WJCT, DURING WHICH THE FINALISTS FROM ACROSS DUVAL COUNTY COMPETED AND THE MARSHALL PROJECT WAS
AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROJECT. 
          AND THESE, THESE KIDS WERE TRULY AMAZING WITH WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH. 
          AND THE WINNING TEACHER AND ONE OF THE STUDENTS THEN CAME TO OUR ATLANTIC BEACH CENTENNIAL
CELEBRATION TO SHARE THEIR MINECRAFT EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THE ATLANTIC BEACH PROJECT, AND ALSO TO HELP RECRUIT PARTICIPANTS FOR ANOTHER LOCAL COMPETITION THAT ESC IS
GOING TO SPONSOR. 
          SO FINALLY COMING UP IN THE SECOND HALF OF 2026 A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT THE ESC WILL BE
FOCUSING ON INCLUDE THIS MORE MINECRAFT. AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A TRICK OR TREATERS GIVEAWAY THIS
FALL. 
          AND ALSO THE SECOND EDITION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL AWARDS. 
          SO LAST SLIDE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS INFORMATION TO YOU TONIGHT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE TREE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL PROVIDE A TREE PERMIT SUMMARY TO
YOU AT YOUR NEXT MEETING, AND I'LL BE BACK IN DECEMBER FOR A REPORT ON THE SECOND HALF OF OUR YEAR. 
          AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT ESC. 
          YES, COMMISSIONER. REAL QUICK ONE. YES, I JUST DID SOME QUICK MATH HERE. 
          THAT'S $600,000. MAYBE I SHOULD ASK KEVIN THAT'S INVESTED IN HOW AND IF IT'S A MONEY
MARKET THAT'S $24,000 A YEAR. 
          IS THAT MONEY INVESTED? ARE YOU ASKING IF THAT MONEY IS. 
          YEAH. WHERE'S THE 600,000? IS IT EARNING INTEREST RIGHT NOW? YEAH. YES, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          BUT I MEAN THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. YES. 
          YEAH. COMMISSIONER. RING. I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MONEY. 
          SO 600,000. WHAT IS OUR YEAR OVER YEAR? YOU KNOW,
HOW LONG HAS IT TAKEN US TO GET TO 600,000? DO WE HAVE TO SPEND IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR? WHAT DO WE SPEND IT ON? WELL, I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE THIS
PASSED IS THAT THE PROPOSED REFUND BUDGET WAS WAS NOT PASSED LAST YEAR. OKAY. AND SO I'M NOT SURE. SO THE MONEY CAME TO THE COMMISSION. 
          IT HAS IT HAS BEEN ACCRUING TO TO MY KNOWLEDGE,
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERIOD OF TIME IT TOOK TO GET TO, TO $600,000. BUT AND IT, IT SITS THERE THEN AND IT'S DEDICATED FUND,
IT DOESN'T GET SPENT ELSEWHERE. 
          THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. AND, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION AS WE DO EVERY YEAR,
ALLOCATE YOUR BUDGET MONEY HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE SITTING IN THE BANK AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ME BE
AGGRESSIVE ABOUT SPENDING IT DOWN AND GETTING TREES IN THE GROUND. 
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OKAY. AND I AM CURIOUS JUST HOW, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES IT DO WE,
YOU KNOW, GET EACH YEAR HERE? OF COURSE THAT THAT THAT IS NOT THE SAME FROM YEAR TO YEAR. 
          DEPENDS ON MITIGATION. AMANDA, DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER? YEAH. THE IT IT IT EBBS AND FLOWS. SO MONEY COMES INTO IT AS PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR THEIR
REQUIRED MITIGATION AND MONEY COMES OUT OF IT. THAT MONEY MOST RECENTLY I'M TRYING TO THINK WE DID THE FRONT YARD TREE
PLANTINGS, I BELIEVE IN APRIL. WE SPENT CLOSE TO $24,000 ON THAT AND PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS. 
          AND THEN WE DID A FALL PLANTING. AND THEN WE TYPICALLY DO ONCE A YEAR,
THE TREE GIVEAWAY WHERE YOU CAN COME IN AND IT'S IN THE PARKING LOT, IT'S REALLY EASY. YOU GET A TREE. WE DO REPLACE PUBLIC PLANTINGS IN PUBLIC PARKS. 
          THOSE ARE RELATIVELY EASY. THE ISSUE IN THE PAST THAT WE'VE HAD IS KEEPING THE TREES
WATERED. 
          SO ESC HAS TAKEN A LOOK AT AND HAS AGREED WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO HIRE A
PROFESSIONAL WATERING COMPANY THAT WANTS THE TREES GET IN THE GROUND. WE CAN GET THOSE WATERED SO THAT THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL AND WE CAN
GET MORE TREES IN THE GROUND WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON STAFF WHO'S ALREADY DOING OTHER STUFF TO WATER THOSE TREES. OKAY. WE'LL GET YOU SOME DATA ON HOW MUCH WE'VE COLLECTED IN
RECENT YEARS. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I JUST YES, I HAVE A THEORY IN TERMS OF WHY IT'S SO LARGE. 
          AND, AND THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE DID AT THE LAST MEETING WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE
IS THAT YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF LAND PARCELS OF LAND BEING CLEAR CUT. AND SO,
I MEAN, IDEALLY, WE DON'T WANT THIS TREE FUND TO EVER BE TOO, TOO BIG BECAUSE THAT MEANS PEOPLE ARE SAVING THEIR TREES,
NOT PAYING THE FEE. 
          RIGHT. SO THAT, I MEAN, THE FACT THAT IT'S AT 600 IS DISTURBING. 
          I MEAN, IT'S WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND WE WERE AND STILL ARE. AND THAT'S WHY WE,
YOU KNOW, IT WAS A FURTHER INDICATOR OF WHY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS CLEAR CUTTING OF LOTS. SO YEAH SOME SOMETIMES PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY WRITE A CHECK FOR 50,
$70,000 AND IT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET. 
          THAT'S NOTHING TO THEM. YEP. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU,
MISS AMY. 
          WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE PARTNERSHIP. 
          OKAY, GREAT. THANKS, EVERYBODY. OKAY. LET'S SEE. 
          [8.A.    RESOLUTION NO. 26-93 ]
OKAY, MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT, A RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-93,
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, AWARDING BID NUMBER 2526-13 FOR WATER TREATMENT. 
          PLANT NUMBER ONE INTERIOR PAINTING OF GROUND STORAGE TANKS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO
EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING FOR AN
EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR. HOGENCAMP, THANK YOU. WE RECEIVED EIGHT BIDS FOR THIS PROJECT AT WATER TREATMENT PLANT
NUMBER ONE. 
          IT INCLUDES INTERIOR PAINT PAINTING OF THE TWO STORAGE TANKS. 
          ALSO INCLUDES FURNISHING ALL LABOR MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. 
          THE TANKS ARE 200,000 GALLONS THAT ARE CONCRETE GROUND STORAGE TANKS. 
          THE LOWEST BID CAME IN AT 498,300. THE SECOND LOWEST BY TANK REHAB WAS 522,500. 
          STAFF PUT A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE THEY CONVINCED ME THAT WE SHOULD GO WITH THE
SECOND HIGHEST BID, WHICH WAS ABOUT 5% MORE THAN THE LOWEST BID. THIS THIS CITY THIS COMPANY,
UNLIKE THE, THE, THE LOWEST PRICE BIDDER IS BASED IN JACKSONVILLE. 
          WE'VE HAD SUPER EXPERIENCES WITH THEM, UNLIKE WITH THE SECOND LOW BIDDER OR THE LOWEST
BIDDER. 
          I'M SORRY. THIS WORK HAS TO BE DONE CORRECTLY. 
          IT'S REALLY CRUCIAL. AND WE DO REQUEST THAT YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVING THIS
RESOLUTION. 
          I'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT WAS $500,000,
AND WE WOULD REALLOCATE 22,500 FROM OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT NUMBER TWO DIESEL FUEL TANK PROJECT TO TO MAKE UP THE $22,500
DIFFERENCE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT NUMBER 2693. 
          SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY WITH I, I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU. ITEM EIGHT B RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-96. 
          [8.B.    RESOLUTION NO. 26-96 ]
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH,
FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE RENEWAL OF AN EMAIL SECURITY AND COMPLIANCE SERVICE, 
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BACKUP SERVER APPLIANCE SUBSCRIPTIONS, AND A WEB SECURITY GATEWAY SUBSCRIPTION THROUGH NH
AND AYE AT A TOTAL PRICE OF $36,496.10, WITH FUNDS ALLOCATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 526. 
          BUDGET ACCOUNT NUMBER 00110115164600. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE CONTRACTS AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH AND AS NECESSARY. 
          YES. OH YES. CITY CLERK CAME OVER HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT RESOLUTION
TITLE BEING READ. 
          I'M TERRIBLY SORRY, MAYOR. THE PAGE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE GOTTEN SWAPPED OUT. MAYOR. 
          OH, THEY MIGHT HAVE MISSED YOURS. WELL, NO, THERE WAS A PAGE LYING HERE,
BUT NOBODY TOLD ME THAT I HAD A SPECIAL PAGE. 
          I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T REALIZE I STILL NOT. OKAY,
WE HAVE ANOTHER. 
          OKAY. SCRAP WHAT I JUST SAID. LET'S GO TO THE REVISED RESOLUTION. 
          THIS IS ITEM EIGHT B, RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-96,
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA APPROVING STREET SWEEPING TRUCK LEASE PURCHASE. 
          AM I ON THE RIGHT ONE? YEAH. OKAY. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACTS
AND PURCHASE ORDERS IN ACCORDANCE WITH, AND IS NECESSARY TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR. HOGENCAMP. THANKS, MAYOR FORD, AND I APOLOGIZE. 
          IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALIZE IT WASN'T THE RIGHT RESOLUTION. 
          SORRY. NO WORRIES. WE'RE OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU ALWAYS SHOW A LOT OF GRACE WHEN I APPRECIATE
THAT. 
          SO WE HAVE FOR A LONG TIME OUTSOURCE STREET SWEEPING SERVICES. 
          WE ARE HAVE FOR A LONG TIME AND ESPECIALLY RECENTLY NOT BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE WE
GET. 
          WE HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS VERY CLOSELY. MATT KRUG,
OUR DEPUTY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WHO'S HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY, CAME TO ME. REALLY EXCITED TO SUGGEST THAT WE ENTER TO ENTER INTO A LEASE
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR STREET SWEEPER. AND I THOUGHT THAT WOULD MEAN A LARGER PRICE. 
          BUT NO, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ULTIMATELY,
EVEN AFTER WE PAY OUR EMPLOYEE TO OPERATE THE STREET, ACTUALLY A COUPLE EMPLOYEES, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT HIRING NEW EMPLOYEES FOR THIS. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME COSTS, SUCH AS FUEL AND ALL. 
          SO IF YOU SEE IN THE SUMMARY HERE, THIS CURRENT. 
          THE CITY CURRENTLY PAYS $86,000 A YEAR FOR CONTRACTED SWEEPING. 
          WE ARE GOING TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH YOUR APPROVAL AT AN ANNUAL COST OF $58,699
FOR THIS LEASE PURCHASE PER MONTH. 
          THAT'S THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND. NO, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE. THAT'S ANNUALLY. THAT'S ANNUAL. 
          YES. THAT'S. OH I'M SORRY. YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S OVER. 
          AMORTIZING THE EQUIPMENT OVER TIME. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THIS SAVES $28,000 BEFORE WE SPEND MONEY ON SOME OVERHEAD VARIABLES,
INCLUDING FUEL AND POTENTIAL OVERTIME. SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHIN OUR CURRENT WORKFORCE. 
          WE THINK THIS IS CRITICAL. NOW, STREET SWEEPING ISN'T JUST FOR ESTHETICS. 
          WE HAVE, WE HAVE OTHER REASONS THAT WE DO THIS. 
          IT'S REQUIRED TO FULFILL REQUIREMENTS OF OUR MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER PERMIT THROUGH
FDEP. 
          AND SO THIS IS A CRITICAL FUNCTION, WHICH I'VE ONLY LEARNED SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE OFFICE
I'M IN NOW. 
          AND WE HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. OKAY,
WE GOT A MOTION. 
          OKAY. MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2696. 
          SECOND. OKAY. THE SECOND BELONGS TO COMMISSIONER GRANT. 
          I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER. 
          RING. HOW OFTEN DO WE SWEEP THE STREETS? AND WHAT STREETS DO WE SWEEP? IF ON THE. WHICH STREETS DO WE SWEEP? QUESTION IF MR. CREW WILL COME UP WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE SWEEPING STREETS TWICE AS MUCH. 
          AND I DID MENTION THAT AS OUR CONTRACTED VENDOR DID. 
          AND HOW CAN YOU ADDRESS THE STREET WITH STREETS QUESTION? AS FAR, AS FAR AS WHICH STREETS WE ARE DOING,
WE DO ALL THE CITY STREETS ON ROTATION. 
          ON ROTATION. IT WAS DONE BY MONTHLY UNDER THE CONTRACT. 
          WE ARE GOING TO SWITCH IT UP TO BEING DONE MONTHLY OR AS NEEDED. 
          OH THAT'S GREAT. OKAY COMMISSIONER. SO I ADDRESSED THIS,
YOU KNOW, MONTHS AGO WITH THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE I USED TO SEE THAT THING COME THROUGH AND IT LOOKED LIKE TO ME,
THEY WERE JUST MOVING THE DIRT AND WATER AROUND. 
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AND I MEAN, NOT REALLY SWEEPING OR CLEANING ANYTHING. 
          YEP. AND AND HIS RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE DO IT. 
          WE ACKNOWLEDGE IT'S NOT REAL EFFECTIVE, BUT WE DO IT TO MEET TO GET CERTAIN CREDITS,
ENVIRONMENTAL, ENVIRONMENTAL CREDITS AND, AND WHAT ARE THOSE WORTH? DO WE KNOW? LIKE IF WE DIDN'T DO IT. WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF NOT DOING IT. 
          I, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL REPORT BACK TO YOU. EXACTLY. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS ON THE CREDIT ISSUE. YEAH. 
          BUT NOT DOING IT ISN'T AN OPTION. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A REPORT JUST OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD, HOW TO ANSWER THE CREDIT FALLS WITHIN NITROGEN REDUCTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          AS FAR AS HOW THAT APPLIES TO US. I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. 
          OKAY. SO, WELL, I, I JUST, I JUST, I'M JUST,
I MEAN, IF WE NEED TO GET IT, WE'LL GET IT. 
          BUT TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A COLOSSAL WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, WE JUST AREN'T REALLY CLEANING THE STREETS UP TO, IN MY MIND, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN NOW, MAYBE THIS NEW STREET CLEANER BE MUCH MORE
PRODUCTIVE. 
          AND BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, YOU CLEAN A STREET AND,
YOU KNOW, TWO DAYS LATER, IT'S PROBABLY BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW, WHAT ARE WE REALLY PULLING OUT OF THE STREET? TO GET THE NECESSARY CREDIT. BUT BUT ANYWAY,
THAT'S WHERE I GET YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE COMMUNITY AND ANSWER ON, ON, ON, YOU KNOW, WHITE PAPER ON WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          SO I MOVE THIS STUFF AROUND LIKE A ZAMBONI. YOU GET TO DRIVE. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I'M VERY HAPPY THAT MATT IS HANDLING THIS,
SO THANK YOU. 
          BUT I WANT TO HEAR SOME EXCITEMENT FROM YOU ON THIS ACTUALLY WILL KEEP OUR STORM DRAINS
CLEANER. 
          YES. AND THEREFORE LESS STREET FLOODING. OKAY. 
          THAT'S THAT'S A GOAL HERE. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE EXISTING STAFF. 
          AND THERE COULD ACTUALLY BE A NET COST REDUCTION BY NOT HAVING TO HIRE NEW STAFF AND
GETTING THIS DONE AT WHAT, 2000 LESS? SO YEAH, SO SO THE EXCITING PART ABOUT THIS IS IT IS A NON CDL TRUCK. 
          YEAH. SO ALL OF OUR CURRENT STAFF THAT WE REQUIRE TO HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE CAN OPERATE
THIS VEHICLE. YAY. 
          WE ARE HAVING TRAINING THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS. AND I BET YOU GOT SOME GUYS RAISING THEIR
HANDS. 
          YEAH, WE ALREADY HAD, WE HAD A FEW DEMOS LEADING UP TO THIS,
SO THEY WERE ALL EXCITED ABOUT OPERATING IT AND GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE IT. 
          WELL, YOU GOTTA TELL THEM IN ADVANCE THAT COMMISSIONER RING IS GOING TO BE SEEING IF THEY
MOVE THE MUD AROUND. 
          YEAH. OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR MUD ON THIS,
RIGHT? OH, I SAID RING I MEANT GRANT. LIKE, OR IS IT. 
          I GUESS IT'S GOT SOME SORT OF VACUUM. IT'S PULLING DIRT INTO A CONTAINER. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BE. YOU'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE,
YOU KNOW, HOW HOW, YOU KNOW, WE FILL THAT THING EVERY DAY WHEN WE MOVE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE STREETS OR. SO THIS PARTICULAR SWEEPER IS AN EIGHT CUBIC YARD TANK
ON THE BACK OF IT. 
          OKAY. SO HOW IT OPERATES, IT'S GOT TWO BROOMS ON THE SIDE. 
          YEAH. THOSE BROOMS PUSH ALL THE MATERIAL INTO THE CENTER AND IT'S LIKE A VACUUM. 
          THAT SUCKS IT ALL UP. EXCELLENT. IT WORKS REALLY WELL FOR LIKE,
THE FINE STUFF THAT WE HAVE AROUND SANDS AND LEAVES AND ALL THAT. 
          OKAY. THE ONLY DOWNSIDE, IT WON'T SUCK UP PALM FRONDS. 
          IT WON'T PICK BIG BRANCHES. SURE. WE SHOULDN'T BE SWEEPING THOSE UP ANYWAYS. 
          AND YOU'RE USING WATER TO HELP PUSH IT. YES. AND IT JUST IT'S GOT WATER ON ALL THE BROOMS. IT'S GOT WATER ON THE REAR. IT'S GOT WATER ON THE FRONT. THAT JUST KIND OF DRIPS DOWN AND
KIND OF CONTROLS THE DUST. OKAY. 
          OKAY, COOL. THANK YOU MATT. APPRECIATE IT. MATT'S EXCITED. 
          YES, I GOT THAT. I GOT THAT LEVEL. THAT INTENSITY LEVEL CAME RIGHT UP. 
          THANK YOU. YES, SIR. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I AYE. 
          OPPOSED NONE. MOTION CARRIES. NOW, WE DID HAVE A MOTION ON THAT. 
          WE DID. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. 
          LET ME CATCH UP. LET'S SEE. RESOLUTION, THIS IS EIGHT C RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-98. 
          [8.C.    RESOLUTION NO. 26-98]
AM I GOOD, DONNA, ON MY RESOLUTIONS? OKAY, I THINK THAT WAS IT. 
          MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. 
          ROLLED BACK RATE AND THE DATE, TIME AND PLACE FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARINGS TO
CONSIDER THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2020 627 MILLAGE RATE AND BUDGET AS REQUIRED BY LAW. DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO FILE SAID RESOLUTION WITH THE PROPERTY
APPRAISER OF DUVAL COUNTY. 
          PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA STATUTES AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR CONFLICTS AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR. HOGENCAMP THANK YOU. MAY I START BY MISS BARTLE? DID YOU PASS OUT OR OR OR MISS NICHOLS AYE AN UPDATED RESOLUTION TO THE COMMISSION? YES. THAT WAS 2696 ON 2698. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS A 
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SCRIVENER'S ERROR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA PACKET ITSELF VERSUS THE RESOLUTION THAT MAYOR FORD READ IN THE AGENDA PACKET, THE RESOLUTION SAYS FISCAL YEAR 2526. 
          THAT IS 26, 27. AND THEN IN THE FIRST WHEREAS AT THE END,
IT'S A 2026 TAXABLE VALUE. 
          SO WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION, IF YOU DO,
AND WE HOPE YOU DO PLEASE AMEND AMEND THE RESOLUTION. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, JASON? YES. EITHER AMEND IT TO CORRECT IT,
AS KEVIN HAS POINTED OUT, OR WHEN YOU, WHOEVER MAKES THE MOTION CAN JUST SAY THAT THAT IS PART OF THE THE MOTION. 
          OKAY. OTHERWISE, REGARDING THE RESOLUTION, THIS CODIFIES ACTION THAT STAFF HAS ALREADY
TAKEN TO TO TURN IN THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 2.7499 MILLS WHICH OF COURSE YOU CAN HENCEFORTH DECREASE BUT NOT INCREASE. SO WE AS A RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSION AT THE BUDGET MEETING,
WE, WE REPORTED THE NUMBER OF ESTABLISHING THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE. 
          WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE CURRENT YEAR ROLLBACK RATE. 
          WE SET THE COMMISSION'S SEPTEMBER 14TH AND 28 MEETINGS TO CONSIDER THE BUDGET HERE IN THE COMMISSION CHAMBER. AND WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH EXECUTING AND SUBMITTING THE DOCTOR
FOR 20 CERTIFICATION OF TAXABLE VALUE AND THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE LEVY CALCULATION, PRELIMINARY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION TO THE
PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. 
          SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          QUESTIONS. SO IS THIS OUR VOTE ON THE MILLAGE RELATIVE TO NEEDING A MAJORITY SUPERMAJORITY
AND SO ON. 
          OR IS THIS JUST THIS. IS IT? AND DID YOU DID I MISS THAT? DID YOU STATE THAT? NO, YOU DIDN'T MISS IT. IT DOES ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CURRENT YEAR
ROLLBACK RATE IS 2.5815. 
          BUT SO THE LAW DICTATES. SO YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF. 
          WE'VE ALREADY. THE SHIP HAS SAILED ON A A INCREASING THE MILLAGE RATE. 
          NO, NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF YOU GO WITH THE ROLLBACK,
YOU ONLY NEED A MAJORITY VOTE. 
          IF YOU GO WITH ANYTHING ABOVE THE ROLLBACK YOU NEED A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. 
          IS ARE WE DOING A VOTE ON THAT PER THIS. NO. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION,
THAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ESTABLISH THE FINAL. 
          THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THIS IS JUST THE PRELIMINARY ONE. THAT'S RIGHT. BUT AFTER TONIGHT
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO GO ABOVE IT. 
          BUT YOU COULD GO BELOW IT OR AT AND I, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT WE HAD ALREADY VOTED ON THAT,
KNOWING THAT WE COULDN'T GO ABOVE THE CURRENT. 
          YOU DID. YOU PROVIDED YOUR CONSENSUS. WE MOVED FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU. THIS CODIFIES. YES. COMMISSIONER. BOLE. 
          NO, LIKE YOU JUST EXPLAINED IT. YEAH. AND I,
I THINK WE'RE JUST SETTING THE STAGE. 
          YEAH. RIGHT. AND IT JUST MAKES SENSE. WE HAVEN'T APPROVED A BUDGET YET,
YOU KNOW, SO YOU WOULDN'T KNOW. 
          OKAY I AGREE, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2698,
AS AMENDED. 
          SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. SO AT THE 2.7499, WHAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE IS THAT EXPECTED TO GENERATE $633,000. AND THAT'S MAINLY FROM THE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES IN THE CITY. 
          OR IS. YES, MOSTLY. SO, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, YOU KNOW,
THE FACT THAT WE JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO BE SHARPER WITH OUR OUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY WITH LOOMING CHANGES IN TALLAHASSEE. 
          YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE, WE, WHICH I LIKED, WE DIDN'T TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE,
THE ROLLBACK NUMBER, WHICH 2.5. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT,
BUT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DOING SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE THAT GIVES US, YOU KNOW, 300,000 PLUS PLUS REVENUE INCREASE,
BUT DOESN'T GIVE US QUITE THE 600 NUMBER THAT IT CURRENTLY DOES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. 
          OTHER COMMENTS. I GOT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. I HAD STATED IT BEFORE,
AND I THINK I HAD AT LEAST SOME INTEREST IN DOING THIS. 
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I WAS IN HOPES THAT WE WOULD SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE. 
          ON THE POTENTIAL IMPACT OF THE PASSAGE OF THE REFERENDUM ON THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION,
WHICH BY PREVIOUS ADMISSION IS ABOUT A $1.1 MILLION HIT TO THE CITY TAX RECEIPTS IN THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN APPROACHING,
OR AROUND 2 MILLION IN TOTAL FROM THE SECOND YEAR ON, BECAUSE THAT WOULD THEN TAKE IT TO 250,000. 
          SO MY HOPES WERE THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY REDUCE THE BUDGET BY HALF OF THAT OR,
YOU KNOW ROUNDED DOWN 500,000. 
          AND WHAT I WANT TO SET THE STAGE FOR, WE DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS TODAY,
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT TILL WE'RE READY TO DO A BUDGET AND THEN SAY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A WINDFALL,
633,000 OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE WITH NO CHANGE IN THE MILLAGE RATE. 
          BUT A YEAR LATER, WE MAY HAVE A $1.1 MILLION SHORTFALL IN THE BUDGET,
WHICH WILL BE ACTUALLY SOME OF THAT WILL BE MADE UP BY THE THEN FURTHER INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES BASED ON NEW
CONSTRUCTION AND AND REMODELS AND SO ON. 
          BUT HERE'S MY POINT. I THINK WE SHOULD BE REDUCING OUR BUDGET BEFORE WE GET THE ANSWER ON
THE REFERENDUM, WHICH COMES AFTER WE'VE DONE OUR BUDGET, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE REDUCE OUR. 
          AND TO REDUCE THE BUDGET, YOU WOULD LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE IF WE DON'T CHOOSE TO DO THAT. 
          I WANT THIS COMMISSION TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT REDUCING CITY RISK AND REDUCING DEBT. 
          AND I GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE. THE DEBT WE INCURRED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO ON THE
ACQUISITION OF THE PARK PROPERTY KNOWN AS SELVA PRESERVE OFF OF SEMINOLE AND, AND SELVA LAKESIDE. THAT DEBT,
CAN YOU REMEMBER, IS THAT STILL AROUND 800 000 ON THAT I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT. IT WAS OVER A MILLION TO BEGIN WITH. 
          I'M BETTING IT'S PROBABLY THAT ONE DEBT IS PROBABLY ABOUT 800 000. 
          AND BY THE WAY, I HEARD YOU COMMISSIONER RING EARLIER ABOUT THE PROCEEDS ON THE SALE OF
THE MAYPORT ROAD PROPERTY. 
          I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER,
TOO, IS IF WE ACTUALLY FINISH THAT SALE, THAT WE EARMARK THOSE PROCEEDS FOR REDUCTION OF DEBT. 
          AND I WANT TO SAY THIS BECAUSE IT'LL COME UP. 
          AND MR. HOGENCAMP AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. 
          WOULD YOU WANT TO PAY OFF DEBT IF THE DEBT WAS CHEAPER THAN THE EARNINGS THAT YOU COULD
GET ON THE INVESTMENT OF YOUR CASH? NORMALLY YOU MIGHT SAY NO, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS CIRCUMSTANCES MAY BE DIFFERENT
BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE FUTURE ON TAX RECEIPTS BASED ON THE IMPACT OF THE PASSAGE OF THE REFERENDUM. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS WHEN WE PAY OFF THE DEBT,
WE THEN ALSO REDUCE THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE LEDGER IN THE SUBSEQUENT BUDGET YEARS BECAUSE WE HAVE LESS DEBT TO SERVICE. SO REALLY,
IF THIS COMMISSION DECIDES THAT YOU WANT TO HOLD TO THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE, SO BE IT. MAKE THAT DECISION. BUT LET'S REALLY LET'S GET SOME FISCAL,
YOU KNOW, FORTITUDE HERE TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE DEBT AND THE EXPOSURE OF THIS CITY. AND THAT'S MY POINT TODAY. AND WE'LL HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATION AS WE DEVELOP THE
BUDGET. 
          COMMISSIONER. YEAH, I AND I ALSO THINK TOO, THAT IF WE DO COMPROMISE LIKE WE DID THIS
YEAR. 
          IF WE DO GET IN A BIND AND THEY PASS EVERYTHING IN TALLAHASSEE,
WHICH WE EXPECT THEM TO DO, THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE, YES, A BIGGER MILLAGE NEXT YEAR AND AND HAVE GOOD
JUSTIFICATION FOR IT. 
          SO WHY NOT SAVE NOW WHILE WE CAN REDUCE THE BUDGET AND THEN WHEN WE NEED TO REALLY HIT,
IF WE HAVE TO HIT BACK HARD ON THE MILLAGE, IT WON'T BE AS BIG AS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PREVIOUS YEARS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
CONTINUALLY LOWERING US. 
          AND THE OTHER THING TOO, WE HAVE IN OUR BACK POCKET IS THAT PROPERTY IN ATLANTIC BEACH
CONTINUES TO INCREASE DRAMATICALLY. 
          AND SO WE ALWAYS KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW,
20 MILLION, YOU KNOW, IN INCREASE IN PROPERTY. 
          SO TO HELP US BRING OUR TAX REVENUE UP EVERY YEAR,
IF THAT'S WHAT WE IF WE HOLD THE MILLAGEE? WELL, MAYBE NOT ALWAYS, BUT WELL, FOR A WHILE. 
          SO YOU REALLY BRING UP A GREAT POINT. AND AND I WANT TO KIND OF CEMENT THAT WITH DID WE
KNOW, DID WE ACTUALLY BELIEVE LAST YEAR WHEN WE REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE ADDRESSING THE FACT THAT
WE WERE OVER 50% ON THE RESERVES FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND OUR POLICY IS TO REDUCE IT WHEN IT EXCEEDS 50%. WE DROPPED IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO,
WHAT WAS IT, 33%? I THINK IT WAS 33%. AND YET THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO FINISH UP OVER 50%. 
          AGAIN. WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE DRIVING MORE REVENUE THAN WE'RE SPENDING. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB ON HOLDING THE LINE ON,
ON THE EXPENSE SIDE OF THE LEDGER. 
          [02:05:05]
BUT WE CONTINUE TO TAX LIKE WE NEED MORE AND MORE AND MORE. 
          NOW, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT WHEN WE DO MORE GOOD PROJECTS,
INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO ON, THAT'S GOOD LONG TERM FOR THE CITY. 
          BUT BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO REALIZE WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE. 
          LET'S NOT BLOW IT. THE REASON WHY THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO RAMROD THIS THING DOWN OUR
THROATS IS BECAUSE OF FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE CITIES. 
          THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. IT SHOULD NOT BECOME ONE OF THEM. 
          I THINK WE'RE IN A GREAT POSITION. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN ON THE NEXT BUDGET
MEETING. 
          OKAY. WE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AMENDED MOTION. 
          YES. THANK YOU. AND SO IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          YES, SIR. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT THOUGH,
IS WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE OF 2.77499. SO THAT WOULD BE IN THE ORDINANCE. AND IF WE WANT TO MOVE IT OR CHANGE IT,
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST READING WOULD BE THE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT I GUESS. 
          WELL AT THE VERY LATEST, THE SECOND READING. OKAY. 
          BUT LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR. YEAH, BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY BRING IT UP AGAIN ON THE FIRST
READING. 
          OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY WITH I,
I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. MOVING TO EIGHT D RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-101. 
          [8.D.    RESOLUTION NO. 26-101]
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA,
APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH AND SELECTION POLICY, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EFFECTUATE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          MR.. GABRIEL, THIS ONE'S ON YOU. THIS ONE'S ON ME. 
          YEAH. YOU'RE THE THE REPORTER SHOULDN'T BE. I SHOULD BE THE REPORTER. 
          I'M GOING TO DEFER TO CITY MANAGER. THANKS. THANKS. 
          THIS RESOLUTION ACTUALLY IS ADVANCED BY COMMISSIONER RING. 
          IT PUTS INTO PLACE A FORMAL, TRANSPARENT, MERIT BASED REGULATORY FRAMEWORK TO GOVERN THE
RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION OF CITY MANAGER. 
          IT IT WAS A STAB THAT I TOOK WHEN SHE BROUGHT THIS TOPIC UP WHEN WHEN YOU ALL WERE
CONTEMPLATING HIRING A CITY MANAGER. 
          ALONG THE WAY, IF, IF YOU ALL, EVEN EVEN WHEN YOU'RE ABOUT TO HIRE YOUR NEXT CITY MANAGER, IF YOU WANT TO AMEND THE POLICY ACCORDINGLY. BUT THAT'S FINE,
BUT YOU HAVE A FRAMEWORK NOW TO AVOID A LOT OF THE AWKWARDNESS THAT THAT OCCURRED EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND I, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO APPROVE A POLICY,
WHETHER IT'S THIS ONE OR NOT. 
          IT ADDRESSES LEGAL COMPLIANCE, TRANSPARENCY,
THE INTERIM APPOINTMENT FRAMEWORK PRE-APPROVED SALARY AND BENEFITS PACKAGE, WHICH I, I HAPPEN TO THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS BEFOREHAND AND THE INTERIM TO
PERMANENT TRANSITION ALONG WITH THE PERMANENT SEARCH AND SELECTION PROCEDURE. WE'RE ADVANCING THIS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF,
OF ADOPTION. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE, WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 26-101 SECOND. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND DISCUSSION. YOU KNOW THIS IS FRAMEWORK. 
          AND OF COURSE, THE COMMISSION HAS COMPLETE AUTHORITY AS A COMMISSION TOGETHER TO DECIDE TO
DIFFER FROM THIS OR STRAY, BUT IT PROVIDES AN OUTLINE. AND I JUST THINK IT MAKES SENSE. 
          DOES IT AVOID US HAVING TO DISCUSS HIS THE MANAGER'S SALARY IN A MEETING PRE-APPROVED? YEAH. IT DOES IT BEFOREHAND. YEAH. SO IT DOES DO THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT WOULD ANYONE. 
          OKAY. GOOD. YEAH. YES. COMMISSIONER. I THINK,
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO TO THE NEXT ITERATION, HAVING BEEN THROUGH A COUPLE AND I, I'D CALL US OH FOR TWO THE LAST TIME I'VE BEEN IN THE
MIDDLE OF IT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN AS WE GO INTO A CITY
MANAGER SEARCH THAT WHOEVER THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AT THE TIME, WHOEVER THE MAYOR IS, THEY GIVE A THUMBS UP. ROGER THAT. 
          AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE FRAME, YOU KNOW,
THEY GO THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THINGS COULD CHANGE, WHATEVER. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO, YOU KNOW,
READ IT, APPROVE IT AND, AND MOVE FORWARD, BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START. I DO TOO. OKAY. 
          IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR,
SIGNIFY WITH I. 
          AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. I'M SORRY. NAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM YOU,
SO. 
          OKAY LET'S SEE THAT. DID YOU GET THAT VOTE, DONNA? YES, I DID. OKAY. LET'S SEE. ITEM NINE, A ORDINANCE NUMBER 
          [9.A.    ORDINANCE NO. 20-26-183, Introduction and First Reading]
20-26-183. INTRODUCTION AND FIRST READING. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR
THE CITY OF ATLANTIC BEACH, FLORIDA, FOR FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST,
2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          [02:10:07]
THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR FORD. THIS PERTAINS TO THE COMMUNITY GARDEN DONATION. 
          YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY APPROVED AN AGREEMENT TO ACCEPT THE DONATION. 
          THIS ENABLES US TO GET THROUGH THE FINANCIAL,
THE BUREAUCRATIC THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO ACCEPT THE MONEY, TO GET IT INTO THE BUDGET AND TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURES,
WHICH, OF COURSE IS, IS THE MONEY BEING SPENT ON THE ON THE INSTALLATION OF THE GARDEN? YES. OKAY. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE 2026 183. 
          SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND DISCUSSION. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY WITH I I, I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES. 
          [11.  CITY ATTORNEY/CITY CLERK REPORTS AND/OR REQUESTS ]
MOVING TO ITEM 11 CITY ATTORNEY. FINAL COMMENTS. 
          NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN WE KIND OF HANDLED IT WITH MY RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER KELLY
ON THE LIKE I SAID, YOU'LL BE SEEING I CALL IT A CLARIFICATION TO THE CODE ON GUN. 
          YEAH. THE POSSESSION AND REGULATION IT'S A, IT'LL BE A VERY MODEST CHANGE TO THE CODE,
BUT YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT COMING PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING OR SO. YEAH. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK. 
          NO. THANK YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BOLE. YEAH. 
          [12.  CLOSING COMMENTS BY CITY COMMISSIONERS AND CITY MANAGER]
REAL QUICK SPEAKING FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND THAT ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND THE
COMMISSION I THINK AT THE TWO HOUR MARK INTO A MEETING WE SHOULD HAVE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 
          I THINK THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT ON THIS COMMISSION. THAT'S ALL I
HAVE. GOOD. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GRANT. YEAH. CAN YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER BOLE LEFT WELL, BEFORE THE 8:00 MARK,
JUST BEFORE YOU STARTED DRIVING THE THE SWEET STREET SWEEPER. 
          BUT I JUST HAVE ONE THING. ONE THING. SO AMY WAS MUST HAVE BEEN READING MY MIND BECAUSE AS
I WAS THINKING ABOUT, SHE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU KNOW, 30S LATER,
BUT THE ARBORIST GOING OUT TO HOLMES AND YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM A REVIEW OF THEIR TREES AND, YOU KNOW,
TRIMMING RECOMMENDATIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          I THINK THAT'S GREAT. I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU, KEVIN,
THOUGH, TO LOOK INTO HAVING THE ARBORIST LOOK AT I MEAN, WE GOT SOME REALLY BIG TREES CONTRIBUTING TO THE CANOPY WAY BACK IN SELVA MARINA DRIVE IN
THE MEDIAN AND RIGHT OF WAYS. 
          AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY'VE BEEN TOUCHED IN FOREVER. 
          AND WHEN I WAS LIVING, I STILL LIVE BACK THERE,
OF COURSE, BUT MY HOUSE, MY FORMER HOUSE WAS RIGHT ACROSS FROM, I THINK, THE TREE THAT SHE HAD IN HER LAST FRAME OF HER PRESENTATION. 
          IT LOOKED FAMILIAR ANYWAY. BUT TRADITIONALLY,
WHEN, YOU KNOW, STORMS COME THROUGH THE THE BIGGEST LIMBS WOULD JUST FALL. 
          AND I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE SIGNIFICANT IN SIZE. 
          SO IF IT MAKES SENSE TO, TO BECAUSE I THINK IT IT HELPS TO THE HEALTH OF THE TREE. 
          IT ALLOWS MORE SUNLIGHT IN WHICH AGAIN, HELPS THE HEALTH OF THE TREES. 
          AND, AND THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SOIL BELOW. SO GOT IT. 
          WELL, I MEAN, IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO, I THINK. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE. THANK YOU. OH, THANKS. THANK YOU SIR. 
          COMMISSIONER KELLY FOR THE LITTLE DARLINGS ARE BACK IN SCHOOL. 
          SO I'M SURE THAT THERE'S PLENTY OF PATROL OFFICERS ON SEMINOLE ROAD BECAUSE I SEE THEM. 
          BUT ALSO, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BUSSES,
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF RULES ABOUT WHEN YOU STOP FOR A BUS AND IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE IF YOU DON'T. SO OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER RING, NEXT TUESDAY IS PRIMARY ELECTION. 
          GET OUT AND VOTE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. CITY MANAGER. 
          NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'LL ROUND IT OUT. 
          LAST FRIDAY OR SATURDAY I ATTENDED THE THE LAST PLAY OF FIRST ACT THAT IS PUT ON BY
DIRECTOR ANY. RICHARDSON AT ADELE GRAGE. ANYWAYS, THE THE KIDS WERE SUPERB. 
          IT WAS THE BEST PLAY I'VE SEEN THIS YEAR. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS I GOT A CALL FROM ANYA
EARLIER IN THE DAY SAYING SHE HAD AN OOPS. SHE HAD TWO PLAYS THAT DAY, ONE AT 1:00 AND ONE AT 6 OR 7. 
          WHATEVER TIME. SHE FORGOT TO BOOK THE SECOND ONE. 
          AND THERE WAS ANOTHER EVENT GOING ON THAT EVENING. 
          SO I CALLED MR. HOGENCAMP AND HE AGREED. JUST REACH OUT TO JORDAN LESLIE. 
          I SPOKE TO JORDAN IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. JORDAN HAD THAT BUTTONED UP AND ALLEVIATED THE
CONCERN THAT ANYA HAD BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO MELT DOWN IF IF WE COULDN'T FIX THAT. ANYWAYS, THE POINT I'M MAKING IS WHAT A GREAT HIRE. 
          I THINK JORDAN LESLIE IS DOING, I THINK A FABULOUS JOB FOR THIS CITY. 
          AND I THINK HE'S GOT A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE HERE. 
          [02:15:01]
WELL DONE. WE APPRECIATE IT. WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.